[00:00] <KINGOFSWORDS> surely that would show up in the synaptic pakage mgr if it wasnt there
[00:00] <KINGOFSWORDS> omg
[00:00] <KINGOFSWORDS> wow yeh ty directhex=)
[00:01] <directhex> so run it, and we'll see what it thinks your status is
[00:01] <KINGOFSWORDS> so should i just dl the recommended driver from there
[00:01] <directhex> yes, let it do that. we'll see what happens
[00:01] <Bruce85> hey all, my gnome-panel is connecting to random IP's. RKHunter finds nothing. Is this OK? Anybody else seeing this?
[00:01] <KINGOFSWORDS> nvidia_current buts it deactivated
[00:02] <gord> Bruce85, prolly the weather service
[00:02] <Bruce85> cool, cheers gord
[00:03] <directhex> KINGOFSWORDS, so try activating it. it'll take a while, probably
[00:03] <KINGOFSWORDS> directhex...even when ativated compiz is still not working
[00:03] <directhex> KINGOFSWORDS, activated and rebooted?
[00:03] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok i ll try again
[00:03] <KINGOFSWORDS> activated brb
[00:04] <KINGOFSWORDS_> bac
[00:05] <directhex> how're we looking? did you get the "low graphics mode" thing this time?
[00:05] <KINGOFSWORDS_> uhhhhhhh
[00:05] <KINGOFSWORDS_> omg wobbly windows is  working
[00:06] <KINGOFSWORDS_> so must mean compiz is good to go
[00:06] <directhex> well, yes, compiz is what does wobbly windows
[00:06] <KINGOFSWORDS_> no low graphics but did notice nvidia splash screen as pc booted for split second
[00:06] <KINGOFSWORDS_> lol
[00:06] <directhex> well, that sounds promising
[00:06] <KINGOFSWORDS_> omg i cant believe that... my nightmare is over..
[00:07] <KINGOFSWORDS_> thank you so directhex...
[00:07] <directhex> the burning question is "what the hell broke jockey?"
[00:07] <directhex> but i guess for now you just want to get on & use your system
[00:07] <KINGOFSWORDS_> i dont understand what u did thou.....
[00:07] <KINGOFSWORDS_> but even b4 jocky broke compiz wont work
[00:08] <directhex> there are a lot of steps involved in making the driver work. for some reason, a step wasn;'t finished
[00:09] <directhex> i'm not sure which one, or why, but that's what happened
[00:09] <KINGOFSWORDS_> there was a decrency when i dled and installedd jockey so maybe it partly installed and overwrote the original jocky
[00:09] <directhex> maybe
[00:10] <KINGOFSWORDS_> i have been copying and pasting a lot of stpes from forum and tuturials..without understading what its doing so maybe messed a few up
[00:10] <directhex> maybe.
[00:10] <directhex> the thing to remember is a LOT of info on forms falls into two categories: ancient (and no longer accurate), or flat-out stupid & wrong
[00:11] <directhex> the danger is it's hard to know the difference if you don't know what you're looking for
[00:11] <KINGOFSWORDS_> true
[00:11] <KINGOFSWORDS_> most of it was dated pre 2007
[00:12] <KINGOFSWORDS_> i cant get onto my other desktops now thou
[00:12] <directhex> compiz handles virtual desktops in a funny way
[00:12] <KINGOFSWORDS_> ok
[00:13] <KINGOFSWORDS_> cube doesnt work either
[00:13] <KINGOFSWORDS_> is that a driver thing too
[00:13] <directhex> a lot of compiz features aren't on by default in ubuntu
[00:13] <KINGOFSWORDS_> super+e works to move desktops but click the panels in bottom right doesnt
[00:13] <directhex> install compizconfig-settings-manager in synaptic or add/remove programs or apt-get or whatever
[00:13] <KINGOFSWORDS_> yeh i have cc setting mgnr already
[00:14] <directhex> is the cube plugin enabled?
[00:14] <KINGOFSWORDS_> ive tick the box...that y i was using wobbly windows as a check to c if compiz worked
[00:14] <KINGOFSWORDS_> cube plug in is enabled
[00:15] <directhex> well, compiz tweaking is outside my zone of expertise
[00:15] <directhex> but at least you've got a working 3d-accelerated desktop
[00:16] <KINGOFSWORDS_> strange
[00:16] <KINGOFSWORDS_> hmmmm lol
[00:17] <KINGOFSWORDS_> works...enabled desktop cube but not desktop rotate
[00:17] <KINGOFSWORDS_> desktops in bottom right works now nice one....can get on and pimp my laptop now=)
[00:18] <directhex> gold chains and some spinners, that's the best advice.
[00:18] <KINGOFSWORDS_> lol cairo dock looks cool
[00:54] <penguin42> is anyone trying the ~gnome3-team ppa and if so is there a top level meta package to install the lot
[00:55] <shauno> it should be gnome-desktop3, but that didn't want to work for me
[00:55] <penguin42> yeh, ditto
[00:55] <shauno> or rather, everything I googled kept pointing to gnome-desktop3
[00:56] <penguin42> yeh the package source is there, and there is a gnome-desktop3-data and a libgnome-desktop-3 but no actual gnome-desktop3
[01:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi back again
[01:16] <KINGOFSWORDS> my title bars have disapeared
[01:19] <penguin42> shauno: HMm I don't think I've quite got it, I've got what I think is gnome shell, but it looks like an ancient theme
[01:23] <directhex> KINGOFSWORDS, sounds like compiz crashed. perhaps one of your plugins is unstable?
[01:24] <directhex> KINGOFSWORDS, if you can get into system/prefernces/appearance, turn effects off and on again
[01:26] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi directhex
[01:27] <KINGOFSWORDS> i messed around with emerald and they came back a different colour and min max and close on other side
[01:27] <gord> hehe oh geez emerald, its 2006 again!
[01:27] <KINGOFSWORDS> just found this on forum ...metacity --replace and it came back right away...im getting better with this linux melarky
[01:28] <KINGOFSWORDS> gord is emerald old then..should i not bother exploring it?
[01:28] <KINGOFSWORDS> whats geentoo aswell?
[01:28] <gord> KINGOFSWORDS, yup, leave it alone :)
[01:28] <KINGOFSWORDS> ok
[01:29] <gord> gentoo is like ubuntu - a linux distribution, we share a lot of the same software - but gentoo take a different view on packages, basically you get the newest stuff all the time on gentoo, whereas on ubuntu we take six months to bug fix and polish software before making a release
[01:30] <gord> ooookay, my internet has gone crazy, google's dns is reporting wrong ip's for a website. maybe its bedtime
[01:30] <KINGOFSWORDS> oh i thought it was like a graphical thing like compiz or beyrl
[01:45] <shauno> I really need to tidy my desk up.  just grabbed the wrong coffee cup.  yuck :(
[06:34] <MartijnVdS> Ooh. F1 in a few hours
[08:00] <MartijnVdS> \o/ F1
[08:06] <danfish> \o/ winnie the pooh here ;)
[08:10] <MartijnVdS> bother :P
[08:13] <danfish> :)
[08:14] <MartijnVdS> If you multiply together the number of fingers of everyone in the world, what answer do you get?
[08:15] <danfish> 0
[08:15] <MartijnVdS> Points to you :)
[08:15] <danfish> :D
[08:16] <danfish> Why is it better to have round manhole covers than square ones?
[08:17] <MartijnVdS> Round ones have the same radius everywhere, so they can't fall in
[08:18] <danfish> exactamundo :)
[08:19] <MartijnVdS> #ubuntu-uk-pubquiz :)
[08:25] <danfish> eww - don't mention pub - got a bit drunk in one last night then went for a chinese. Now in an
[08:25] <danfish> MSG inspired hangover :(
[08:29] <MartijnVdS> umami
[08:30] <danfish> more like a tsunami in my guts :(
[08:31] <MartijnVdS> if it's MSG, it's an umami tsunami
[08:38] <danfish> quite true
[09:05] <gordonjcp> mmm, chinese food
[09:05] <gordonjcp> I wish I had some Wor Teap Chicken and some salt-and-pepper ribs right now
[09:28]  * popey hugs directhex 
[09:36] <gordonjcp> argh, it's 9:36
[09:37] <gordonjcp> popey: what's directhex?
[09:37] <MartijnVdS> gordonjcp: /names
[09:37] <gordonjcp> ah, a person
[09:38] <gordonjcp> hm, /lastlog -clear and not /win close
[09:42] <HazRPG> \o
[09:42] <MartijnVdS> morning HazRPG
[09:43] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: morning squire :)
[09:45] <HazRPG> time for some eyptian tea :)
[09:45] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: My recipe is finally in Calibre's new update :D
[09:48] <knightwise> morning everyone
[09:48] <knightwise> how are you doing today
[09:51] <Jibadeeha> formula 1 is making me sleepy
[09:52] <MartijnVdS> yeah, I prefer afternoon races
[09:52] <MartijnVdS> around afternoon nap time :)
[09:52] <Jibadeeha> lol
[10:05]  * TheOpenSourcerer has just made own blend of 5-spice powder and is now cooking roast belly pork for me and the kids. :-)
[10:07] <popey> yum!
[10:07] <danfish> very nice - but why no bbq?
[10:07] <popey> Y U NO BBQ!
[10:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> Had a barby last night
[10:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> Will probly eat outside though.
[10:08] <TheOpenSourcerer> My first time with pork belly. Been highly recommended by others in the pub.
[10:09] <popey> my mum cooks belly pork a fair bit
[10:09] <popey> she uses up the odd bits in fried rice, tis blooming lovely
[10:09] <danfish> needs a lot of cooking mind
[10:10]  * TheOpenSourcerer notes the time. 
[10:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> About 3hrs I reckon.
[10:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> Am just doing the crackling right now.
[10:10] <TheOpenSourcerer> Then will turn down slow and roast for another 2 1/2hrs.
[10:11] <danfish> what time do you want us round? ;)
[10:11] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[10:11]  * TheOpenSourcerer goes and peels another 50 spuds for danfish and popey
[10:12] <danfish> nah - dump the spuds, go get another pig :)
[10:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> Shame but understandable: http://www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20110409161444432 Groklaw comes to and end.
[10:20] <Jibadeeha> got the lamb in the slow cooker - smells lovely
[10:31] <MartijnVdS> slow cookers++
[10:49] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[10:50] <MartijnVdS> \o brobostigon
[10:50] <dwatkins> mornin all
[10:51] <brobostigon> good morning MartijnVdS and dwatkins
[10:52] <dwatkins> It's a lovely sunny day in deepest Berkshire today.
[10:52] <brobostigon> here aswell, yes,
[10:52] <MartijnVdS> same in Alphen aan den Rijn
[10:52] <dwatkins> oh wait, I'm on the other side of the border, in Oxfordshire actually.
[10:53]  * brobostigon waves at dwatkins from the same county,
[10:53] <dwatkins> You can tell where the border is, because the road is usually better on one side of it ;)
[10:53] <MartijnVdS> This is/was ~200m from my house: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-13027996
[10:53] <dwatkins> brobostigon: I'm only paying a flying visit to relatives, was my brothers' 40th yesterday - heading back up to Edinburgh later on.
[10:54]  * dwatkins grew-up in Goring-on-Thames
[10:54] <brobostigon> dwatkins: ah, i see, i hope it went smoothly.
[10:54] <dwatkins> eek, MartijnVdS :-/ someone got shot on the street my girlfriend lives on a couple weeks ago, that was scary
[10:54] <brobostigon> dwatkins: i have family justdownthe road fromthere in purley.
[10:55] <dwatkins> brobostigon: yeah, went very well thanks, they visited both sides of the family and we all had a good day with lots of [computer] games and a nice walk
[10:55] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: I was about to get groceries when I heard the police and medical helicopters
[10:55] <dwatkins> ah yes, I used to live in Reading
[10:55] <brobostigon> dwatkins: :)
[10:55] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: if I'd gone shopping 10 minutes earlier...
[10:55] <dwatkins> MartijnVdS: yeah, doesn't bear thinking about
[10:56] <dwatkins> What's probably making it even harder for the relatives of the victims is that the shooter was let off beforehand.
[10:57] <MartijnVdS> Gun clubs already had a reputation problem (public opinion: "they must all be wannabe-murderers, or they wouldn't want guns")
[10:58] <MartijnVdS> so they're all in "damage control" mode now, explaining how strict the rules are
[10:58] <dwatkins> yeah, personally I don't see the need to carry a weapon, but I guess if other people have them it might be useful.
[10:59] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: Sure, but at home?
[11:00] <dwatkins> have one in a cupboard you mean, MartijnVdS?
[11:01] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: yeah
[11:01] <dwatkins> I always think of Stargate when I think of weapons in the home.
[11:01] <MartijnVdS> dwatkins: "America"
[11:01] <dwatkins> Jack O'Niell having been selected for the original [suicide] mission because his kid has shot himself with his gun by accident.
[11:01] <MartijnVdS> ah yes
[11:02] <MartijnVdS> the film! :)
[11:02] <brobostigon> good film,:)
[11:02] <MartijnVdS> film > series, imho
[11:02] <dwatkins> absolutely, they're both great
[11:14] <HazRPG> OMG! I just found my tape from when I was a kid, and ... and ... been spending years trying to find it on CD or something and and and .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UPpI4rWX6A
[11:14] <HazRPG> YAY!
[11:14] <HazRPG> \o/
[11:14] <HazRPG> too much coffee today I think!?
[11:14] <HazRPG> lol
[11:16] <brobostigon> :)
[11:30] <brobostigon> HazRPG: http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit i just found that onthe irssi window splitting.
[11:30] <HazRPG> brobostigon: did I not link that last night :P?
[11:31] <brobostigon> HazRPG: i wasnt around for long, so i dont know.
[11:31] <HazRPG> brobostigon: ah, that makes sense :P
[11:31] <HazRPG> (2011-04-09 7:33:49 PM) HazRPG: or http://quadpoint.org/articles/irssisplit <== see :P
[11:32] <brobostigon> ah, i was cooking then, and eating, :)
[11:32] <HazRPG> brobostigon: ah :)
[11:32] <HazRPG> brobostigon: did you have much fun with it?
[11:32] <ali1234> HazRPG: ice ice mickey... kill it with fire
[11:32] <HazRPG> ali1234: heh
[11:33] <HazRPG> ali1234: childhood memories xD
[11:33] <brobostigon> HazRPG: i am just reading it.
[12:22] <HazRPG> catch ya all later, food time i guess
[12:23] <brobostigon> bye HazRPG o/
[12:28] <ubuntuuk-planet> [Stuart Langridge] Web dev stacks and operating systems - http://www.kryogenix.org/days/2011/04/10/web-dev-stacks-and-operating-systems
[13:26] <ali1234> what's all this stuff about portal 2 and potatos?
[13:27] <shauno> potatoes \o/
[13:35] <shauno> I believe most of it is tied into http://valvearg.com/wiki/FAQ in one way or another.  I haven't been paying that much attention tho
[13:48] <ali1234> i see
[14:39] <HazRPG> \o/ BBQ!
[14:41] <brobostigon> :)
[15:29] <brobostigon> there is maximum amount of channels you canbe connected to att once, on freenode, icant remember what it is.
[15:30] <brobostigon> please.
[15:35] <Azelphur> Anyone who uses yaaic, Here's my version with auto connect support http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/misc/April%202011/yaaic.apk You'll need to uninstall yaaic if you have it installed, as my release key obviously doesn't match the release version of yaaic, this means re-inputting your settings.
[15:36] <Azelphur> tis handy because you can use profiles to launch and connect yaaic automagically \o/
[15:36] <moreati> brobostigon: if it's specified by CHANLIMIT my traceback shows [08:53] [Support] moreati CHANTYPES=# EXCEPTS INVEX CHANMODES=eIbq,k,flj,CFLMPQcgimnprstz CHANLIMIT=#:120 ...
[15:37] <brobostigon> moreati: so, ie, 120 channel limit?
[15:38] <moreati> brobostigon: assuming CHANLIMIT means what I think, yes
[15:39] <brobostigon> moreati: wow, ok, i though it was about a tenth of that.
[15:52] <tomtiger11> Hello
[15:53] <brobostigon> good afternoon tomtiger11
[15:58] <tomtiger11> how are you
[15:59] <brobostigon> tomtiger11: not bad, could be better. and you?
[16:00] <tomtiger11> im fine, why could you be better?
[16:00] <brobostigon> tomtiger11: just not feeling so hot, physiclly and mentally.
[16:01] <tomtiger11> its cool where i live, and are we only ones chatting?
[16:02] <brobostigon> i wasnt referring to the temperature.
[16:02] <tomtiger11> i know!
[16:02] <brobostigon> i am in eleven other channels on freenode, some are busy, and some are quiet.
[16:03] <tomtiger11> i sec changing light bulb!
[16:04] <tomtiger11> IM BACK!!!
[16:04] <brobostigon> wb
[16:05] <tomtiger11> EHH!?
[16:05] <MartijnVdS> wb = welcome back
[16:05] <tomtiger11> Ahh And Hi
[16:07] <tomtiger11> its quiet here
[16:07] <MartijnVdS> it's sunday afternoon
[16:07] <MartijnVdS> I guess people are doing other things (heating up the bbq, for example)
[16:08] <willy1977> afternoon - (well it is here ;)) I can think of better ways to spend a sunny sunday afternoon - sometimes I love my work...
[16:08] <tomtiger11> its too cold ( where i live anyway)
[16:08] <MartijnVdS> tomtiger11: Scotland? :P
[16:09] <willy1977> :D
[16:09] <tomtiger11> MartijnVds: England
[16:10] <popey> its hot hot hot here
[16:10] <willy1977> ^^^^^
[16:10] <tomtiger11> Im COLD
[16:11] <willy1977> well we'll not rub it in too much about it being hot where we are... in fact I'll try not to mention that it's quite hot here any more...
[16:12] <MartijnVdS> popey: but you're in the deep south
[16:12] <tomtiger11> im going into loft 4 5 mins soz!
[16:12] <willy1977> is it warmer there tomtiger11 ? :p
[16:14] <willy1977> MartijnVdS: I have visions of popey with a southern drawl now...
[16:17] <popey> 20 degrees here, feels hotter
[16:20] <willy1977> yeah don't think we'd be much hotter than 20 deg but it does feel warmer :D I love it...
[16:21] <MartijnVdS> I'm WAY hotter than 20°C
[16:21]  * brobostigon is ok with sun, but not heat, it irritates his eczema,
[16:21] <tomtiger11> No it is freezing up there! =Z
[16:25] <tomtiger11> any convo
[16:26] <MartijnVdS> !weekend | tomtiger11
[16:26] <tomtiger11> funny!
[16:27] <tomtiger11> just talk
[16:28] <willy1977> normally I don't mind chewing the fat...  but I'm trying to write a EDI interface for tomorrow morning :(
[16:28] <willy1977> *an
[16:28] <tomtiger11> c ya
[17:34]  * brobostigon shakes fist at xorg-xserver-video-intel
[17:43]  * MartijnVdS like x-x-v-i
[18:26] <HazRPG> \o
[18:26] <HazRPG> yum yum in the tum
[18:26] <HazRPG> I really like BBQ season :)
[18:27] <issyl0> Mmm, BBQ.
[18:27] <MartijnVdS> HazRPG: spare ribs (always useful, in case you lose one)
[18:27] <issyl0> MartijnVdS: I was waiting for that.
[18:27]  * MartijnVdS can't do BBQs here
[18:27] <issyl0> Some barbecue sauce to stick it back with, eh?
[18:28] <MartijnVdS> issyl0: 8-)
[18:29] <daftykins> ah good weather for bike cleaning ^_^
[18:29] <daftykins> evening all o/
[18:30] <MartijnVdS> \o daftykins
[18:30] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: :P
[18:30] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: why can't you do BBQ's there?
[18:31] <HazRPG> daftykins: evening \o
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> HazRPG: my neighbors (all 50 of them) would complain :)
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> Appartment--
[18:31] <MartijnVdS> apartment*
[18:33] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: See they call those flats over here, and I think that's weird... prefer the term "Apartments"
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> HazRPG: they call them flats or "blokkendoos" here
[18:33] <MartijnVdS> HazRPG: I was using google to translate :)
[18:34] <MartijnVdS> (blokkendoos = "box of blocks")
[18:34] <HazRPG> hehe
[18:34] <HazRPG> google translate says "blocks set" :P
[18:35] <HazRPG> and if you click on it, it says "building bucket"
[18:35] <HazRPG> I love the way things translate :)
[18:35] <MartijnVdS> well that :)
[18:35] <HazRPG> hehe
[18:36] <MartijnVdS> anyway, one of those huge buildings built ~20 years after the war to put all the baby boomers in :)
[18:36] <HazRPG> "noor attah" is my fav arabic phrase, it means "lights cut" or "cut lights"... basically means the electricity has died or been cut
[18:36] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: hehe
[18:40] <daftykins> terminals @ 1050x1680 (portrait) are great ^_^
[18:40] <daftykins> on a 20" LCD
[18:41] <HazRPG> ooo
[18:41] <HazRPG> wish I had 20" screens
[18:42] <daftykins> it was kinda spare, so now i've got the 3500+ Athlon64 Shuttle on it with maverick installed and synergy to go between my desktop and it :D
[18:42] <HazRPG> in fact 2 x 19" (proper squared[ish]) monitors would be amazing!
[18:42]  * mgdm has a 24" and the laptop's 15"
[18:42] <HazRPG> winner
[18:43] <HazRPG> mgdm: widescreen?
[18:43] <daftykins> 4:3 aspect
[18:43] <HazRPG> daftykins: that's the one :)
[18:43] <HazRPG> I have 2x17" 4:3 monitors :)
[18:43] <mgdm> HazRPG: aye
[18:43] <HazRPG> would love to have them as 19" or more
[18:43] <mgdm> I'd kind of prefer 2x 24" 4:3, I think :)
[18:44] <HazRPG> just because I'm not a fan of widescreen
[18:44] <daftykins> erk, some widescreen displays are definitely too short, but i still like the aspect
[18:44] <daftykins> 16:10 that is
[18:44] <mgdm> if I had two widescreen monitors I'd probably tilt one to be portrait
[18:44] <HazRPG> don't know what it is about them, I just feel like I'm being ripped off of extra screen space
[18:45] <HazRPG> mgdm: haha I'd tilt both to try and even it out and make it /seem/ like I have a fullscreen 4:3
[18:45] <daftykins> http://techblo.gg/stuff/athy.jpg
[18:45] <daftykins> in fact that's what i have in this shuttle :D
[18:46] <daftykins> the beige box in the pic is my old Pentium 1 :O
[18:46] <HazRPG> \o/
[18:46] <mgdm> i used to have a tilted 4:3 at work which was handy for coding on
[18:46] <HazRPG> mgdm: hmm, never thought of tilting a 4:3
[18:46] <daftykins> as in rotating it portrait?
[18:47] <mgdm> aye
[18:47] <mgdm> I could fit more code in that way
[18:47] <HazRPG> actually you know what, a tilted 16:10 would be pretty cool or a 16:9... tilted for just simply coding
[18:47] <HazRPG> I'd have to have a 4:3 in there somewhere
[18:47] <mgdm> my 24" doesn't tilt :(
[18:48] <HazRPG> mgdm: :(
[18:48] <HazRPG> I've seen at uni's that they tilt TFT monitors that are 16:10 or 16:9 to place adverts on about what's going on in the place
[18:49] <HazRPG> I think it's a pretty good idea, makes it look like a moving flyer
[18:52] <gordonjcp> wonder if you could use clutter to make it follow the rotation of the monitor?
[18:53] <oly> hi, anyone able to tell me how packages / updates get merged into ubuntu i have been hit by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyopenssl/+bug/686804 and it says a fix was commited
[18:53] <oly> but in natty its still broken so can you track to see if its going to be merge / whe it will be merge etc
[18:54] <oly> or does it have to be report as a seperate bug against natty ?
[18:54] <daftykins> HazRPG: there are some neat uses of displays at Unis yarr, though i worry for the power waste
[18:55] <daftykins> i went to a friends that had LCDs outside classes or in mezzanines to show a given department area's room availability / class schedule (for cancelled lectures etc)
[18:55] <daftykins> eink displays on a PC would be handy there
[18:55] <daftykins> e-ink rather
[18:57] <HazRPG> daftykins: uni I saw it at, they have solar panels to power the whole place
[18:57] <HazRPG> there's a big LED (calculator style) thing that shows how much they've produced and saved, which I thought was pretty cool
[18:59] <daftykins> :O
[18:59] <daftykins> i sit much corrected
[18:59] <daftykins> :D
[19:07] <HazRPG> hehe
[19:07] <daftykins> funny, i thought i had an image of the desk right now
[19:07] <daftykins> but it seems i don't!
[19:10] <daftykins> right, food \o/
[19:11] <HazRPG> daftykins: enjoy :)
[19:13] <daftykins> ta ^_^
[19:14] <daftykins> ah i'm so spoilt with pixels at home
[19:15] <MartijnVdS> megapixels!
[19:15] <daftykins> when i go to College to teach and i have to use a 1280x1024 LCD on the desks it's painful!
[19:15] <awilkins> Yeah, have to use those at work
[19:15] <awilkins> I overcompensate by having 4 on my desk
[19:16] <daftykins> XD
[19:16] <awilkins> Three monitors + laptop
[19:16] <awilkins> Had to buy a displayport->vga adapter to get all four going :)
[19:18] <daftykins> interesting
[19:18] <awilkins> i do have 2 computers
[19:18] <daftykins> the new desktop PCs us lecturers got recently come with some weird proprietary connectors on the back of ATI (or should i say AMD) low profile cards
[19:19] <daftykins> so odd i can't even remember the name of it
[19:19] <awilkins> i hate those. The dongle comes in the box but try prising them out of the hands of ICT..
[19:19] <daftykins> haha
[19:19] <daftykins> worse than that, it didn't come with one
[19:19] <daftykins> it just came with it to two VGA cables
[19:19] <daftykins> driving a 24" LCD over VGA is a crime :D
[19:19] <awilkins> Could be DisplayPort .. All the new HP desktops come with them
[19:20] <daftykins> http://crav3n.com/kb_upload/Image/Dms-59.jpg
[19:20] <daftykins> there we go
[19:20] <daftykins> DMS 59
[19:20] <daftykins> nah it's totally unique
[19:20] <daftykins> i looked at it and went... whaaaaaat!?
[19:20] <awilkins> Ah yes.. Encountered those
[19:21] <awilkins> Owned one I think
[19:23] <HazRPG> you know I'm still hyped that my recipe got added on Calibre!
[19:23] <daftykins> :o?
[19:23] <HazRPG> daftykins: yup yup! Newest update that came out the other day!
[19:23] <HazRPG> daftykins: you'll now see an Arabic section! (which only one, which is the one I made!)
[19:24] <HazRPG> s/only one/only has one/
[19:24] <daftykins> where is calibre?
[19:26] <HazRPG> daftykins: an ebook reader/converter for linux/pc/mac
[19:26] <HazRPG> can also download news articles with it etc
[19:26] <HazRPG> and organise your ebooks
[19:27] <daftykins> oh i see
[19:27] <HazRPG> recipe is what calibre calls the scripts for downloading news feeds
[19:27] <HazRPG> and recipes are programmed in python essentially
[19:32] <daftykins> oh right
[19:32] <daftykins> so you didn't make a food recipe...
[19:33] <daftykins> aww :(
[19:35] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: does the sony eReaders support PDF at all?
[19:35] <MartijnVdS> yes
[19:36] <HazRPG> Fantastic, so my post will be relevant :)
[19:37] <HazRPG> Some guy just recently downloaded my test ebook I put up (I put it up when I was still trying to get it to work properly), and he's says it looks great on the computer, but shows up in ??? on the sony eReader... just been explaining why, and was suggesting that he should convert to PDF to get it to work.
[19:38] <MartijnVdS> I don't know if that'll work though
[19:38]  * penguin42 gently wonders if a narwhal would make a good mouse pointer
[19:38] <MartijnVdS> haven't tried custom fonts in pdf
[19:38] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: it might
[19:39] <MartijnVdS> penguin42: suggest it to the design team :)
[19:39] <HazRPG> penguin42: do it!
[19:39] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: Have you got it handy? I'll send you a link to a pdf that looks fine on-screen and see if it renders on yours please :).
[19:39] <MartijnVdS> HazRPG: I can get it from the other room
[19:40] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: cool, that would be great thanks :)
[19:40]  * HazRPG goes to upload pdf
[19:43] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: www.hazrpg.co.uk/downloads/al-ahram.pdf
[19:45] <MartijnVdS> that's a slow download :)
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> HazRPG: I can't read it, but it looks like arabic (and ltr) to me
[19:48] <MartijnVdS> RTL
[19:49] <HazRPG> hmm
[19:49] <MartijnVdS> hmm?
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> is says "Tweet" just below the title :)
[19:50] <MartijnVdS> and the font is a bit tiny
[19:51] <HazRPG> www.hazrpg.co.uk/downloads/Screenshot-Al-Ahram.png <== something like that
[19:51] <MartijnVdS> yes
[19:51] <HazRPG> oh tiny fonts?
[19:51] <HazRPG> like how tiny?
[19:51] <MartijnVdS> except black and white
[19:51] <HazRPG> obviously :P
[19:52] <HazRPG> like 6pt tiny? or 10pt tiny?
[19:52] <HazRPG> (roughly)
[19:52] <MartijnVdS> 8-9ish :)
[19:52] <MartijnVdS> it's very slow (but it's a large PDF)
[19:53] <HazRPG> yeah
[19:53] <HazRPG> but its better than nothing for those that want arabic though, it's a start right :P?
[19:53] <MartijnVdS> sure
[19:53] <HazRPG> Much thanks for the testing btw :)
[19:54] <MartijnVdS> np
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> this is bizarre.. Live TV from 200m down the road
[20:12] <MartijnVdS> (national TV)
[20:15] <popey> evening all
[20:15] <MartijnVdS> \o popey
[20:16] <MartijnVdS> popey: how's your evening?
[20:16] <popey> cheese, wine, telly, irc
[20:16] <popey> win
[20:16]  * MartijnVdS has the last 3 atm :)
[20:18]  * AlanBell has wine and IRC
[20:19] <MartijnVdS> no telly?
[20:19] <AlanBell> wife has telly
[20:20]  * czajkowski has a doubledecker diet coke and irc 
[20:20] <czajkowski> I win :p
[20:20] <czajkowski> so there
[20:20] <willy1977> work and irc... :(
[20:20] <willy1977> missing out somwhere :p
[20:21] <AlanBell> going through photos in fspot
[20:21] <HazRPG> irc + tango here :)
[20:21] <Laney> stir fry + (grilled red pepper & feta) + music - wine + irc
[20:21]  * brobostigon also have wine and irc.
[20:22] <Laney> (+ teA)
[20:22] <HazRPG> willy1977: work at 8:30PM? On a Sunday?
[20:22] <HazRPG> AlanBell: you know, never really used fspot, is it actually any good?
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> f-spot is nice, but compared to shotwell it's a bit slow
[20:23] <willy1977> HazRPG: stoopid deadline and a not so understanding boss...
[20:23] <MartijnVdS> But compared to what came before it it's fast
[20:23] <Laney> sadly nobody pays to develop it :(
[20:23] <AlanBell> HazRPG: dunno really, I don't use it much, normally just copy photos where I want them
[20:24] <AlanBell> just thought I would let it import them this time
[20:24]  * MartijnVdS uploaded a few new pics earlier
[20:24] <popey> tony has switched to bubble or whatever its called
[20:24] <HazRPG> willy1977: ouch
[20:24] <MartijnVdS> popey: xbubble - A nice Puzzle Bubble clone
[20:25] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: http://www.flickr.com/photos/treenaks/sets/72157624906925557/
[20:27] <willy1977> HazRPG: pay my money take my choice I guess ;)
[20:27] <AlanBell> I don't really take photos much, but today my son was running round snapping everyone at a family thing
[20:27] <AlanBell> ended up with quite a few keepable shots
[20:28] <HazRPG> willy1977: heh :P
[20:28] <AlanBell> ooh, that one of me is *not* keepable
[20:28] <HazRPG> AlanBell: nice :)
[20:28] <MartijnVdS> AlanBell: censorship!
[20:28] <HazRPG> AlanBell: heh!
[20:29] <popey> bibble
[20:30] <popey> ^ photo app
[20:30] <gord> bobble
[20:30] <gord> oh i thought we were just making up words :(
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> ah that's not the wine talking :P
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> martijn@vaio:~$ apt-cache search bibble
[20:30] <MartijnVdS> martijn@vaio:~$
[20:32] <HazRPG> ibble, bobble, black, bobble, ibble, bobble, out?
[20:33] <HazRPG> that was a way the girls would do "eenie, meenie, minnie, mo"
[20:34] <popey> http://bibblelabs.com/press/
[20:35] <HazRPG> MartijnVdS: heh, I did that command too and went "did I type it in wrong?"
[20:36] <HazRPG> oh wow, linux version \o/
[20:36] <gord> "photographic workflow at the speed of light"....
[20:36] <HazRPG> I  originally thought "urgh... trial... must be windows only"
[21:01] <gord> gmail is really annoying when you need to skip to the oldest mail
[21:01] <gord> you have to go through like 5 pages of emails before it will give you the option
[21:01] <MartijnVdS> gord: just search for it :)
[21:02] <gord> MartijnVdS, search doesn't work so well when your looking for a specific email that you know was the first email said company sent you, because the titles are always the same
[21:02] <MartijnVdS> look for the company name/domain
[21:03] <gord> like i said, that doesn't work too wel
[21:03] <gord> you get eight thousand emails from them
[21:05] <MartijnVdS> Feature request :)
[21:08] <gord> its my own fault for being too lazy to open evolution ;)
[21:08] <gord> just seems like stupidity on googles part is all
[21:08] <MartijnVdS> openssl s_client + type some IMAP :)
[21:09] <gord> ubuntu really needs an email client that doesn't suck, one that doesn't eat up all the resources in the world just to read text files would be a plus too
[21:09] <gord> i shouldn't have to worry if an email client will run on my netbook ;)
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> it has several web browsers that render gmail fine :P
[21:10] <gord> thats nice, but gmail is annoying, plus i don't want to access my work email through it
[21:10] <MartijnVdS> I love gmail
[21:11] <MartijnVdS> I want thunderbird to be more like it (for work mail)
[21:11] <MartijnVdS> the "archive" button helps
[21:11] <gord> it would be fine, but it has too much ajax web app annoyances for me, maybe its just my connection but half the time i click a button and nothing happens
[21:11] <gord> no local caching isn't always a good idea
[21:11] <MartijnVdS> it's just your connection :)
[21:11] <gord> i think its just my connection when i'm downloading/uploading stuff
[21:12] <MartijnVdS> but I love the way it works (with the "all mail" archive)
[21:12] <gord> its archiving stuff is great, priority inbox is *awesome* - but the paper cut annoyances are too much for me
[21:12] <gord> its also damn easy to filter mail in gmail too
[21:12] <MartijnVdS> gord: I don't get enough mail for PI
[21:13] <gord> i have almost 50 thousand unread emails in a launchpad related folder :(
[21:13] <MartijnVdS> ah yes.. launchpad is a spammy bit of software
[21:13] <MartijnVdS> I have an RT folder like that at work
[21:14] <MartijnVdS> and a cron-errors folder
[21:14] <gord> well they are good, i don't need the archive the emails really
[21:14] <gord> its all "bug status changed" and such - easier than checking the bug reports every day
[21:14] <MartijnVdS> gord: Launchpad mails? Agreed. But email from the boss? Archive please :)
[21:47] <daftykins> right, landscape says i should restart, so far be it for me to question!
[21:48] <daftykins> brb
[21:54] <hamitron> o/
[22:17] <brobostigon> nos da, sleep well.
[22:44] <willy1977> o/ g'night - I give up.
[22:55] <HazRPG> willy1977: nite dude, sleep well \o