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chris4585anyone know how to turn off a indicator on gnome-panel?03:09
wrstchris4585 hmm that's a good question :)03:13
cyberangerchris4585: details may help04:08
chris4585cyberanger, the little mail icon is there with no menu entries, quite annoying its there for no reason04:09
cyberangerwrst: mail, the envelope?04:14
cyberangererr, whoops04:15
cyberangerchris4585: mail, the envelope?04:15
chris4585yes04:15
cyberangerif so, right click, remove from panel04:15
chris4585cyberanger, if I do that then I lose my volume icon04:15
* chris4585 thinks its been a while since cyberanger has been on gnome04:16
* cyberanger thinks he is typing this from lucid, gnome04:17
chris4585:O!!04:18
* cyberanger thinks it just worked for him 5 minutes ago04:18
chris4585well that was my shock of the night04:18
chris4585yes well this is 10.1004:18
chris4585I love the indicators but in all seriousness the lack of gui options for them is very frustrating04:19
cyberangerchris4585: yeah, I personally favor other setups, openbox and lxde the most, but aim for stock so far (unity is making me wonder a little if lubuntu is going to become my stock support)04:19
cyberangerand my custom setups are not as popular at work, for the desktop rigs04:20
cyberangerchris4585: so it will not do that on 10.10?04:20
chris4585so you're saying you may try unity more?04:20
chris4585cyberanger, I don't believe so04:20
cyberangerI'm saying in it's current forum, it's not ready for new ubuntu users04:20
cyberangerso I will be, but the deal is, it's this or lubuntu, and lubuntu is winning atm04:21
chris4585ah04:21
chris4585what I can't stand is Unity is changing so much04:21
cyberangerchris4585: can you right click on the envelope and give me a list of options04:21
chris4585last week we got the blue ubuntu icon when there is a notification, I loved that! but now its just the tip of the corner is blue and I don't really like that as much..04:22
chris4585cyberanger, that wont work... the right click option for it defaults to the applet handler to remove it etc..04:23
chris4585and it wont remove it alone, it will remove the whole indicator applet04:23
chris4585with the volume Icon04:23
cyberangerdid in my case too, overlooked that (which is fine, my case is set and done, icecast source client)04:24
cyberangerhttp://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/remove-the-envelope-icon-from-the-gnome-indicator-applet04:25
chris4585only if there was a gui to do that except to disable it04:26
cyberangeradditional step, desired end result for us both (however since this is mostly pulseaudio and vlc, I could strip 9/10ths of this out and use alsamixer really, might as well leave it stock-ish)04:27
cyberangerchris4585: that package needs to go, if you can just disable it, that works too04:27
chris4585I think earlier I actually did remove that with a bunch of other things and accidentally removed gnome-panel with a few other things...04:27
cyberangerchris4585: I bet gconf has a boolean for it04:28
cyberangerlemme see04:29
chris4585probably04:29
chris4585but gconf just shouldn't be the only way04:29
cyberangershould vs is, ubuntu does some things that should be different in my mind at times04:33
cyberangeryou might be right04:33
cyberangerbut that is a point, it might be the only way04:34
cyberangerchris4585: right or wrong, http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/remove-the-envelope-icon-from-the-gnome-indicator-applet method does work04:37
cyberangerso if we look in that, we can see what's able to be disabled04:37
chris4585indeed04:37
cyberangerinstead of purging it04:37
cyberanger(however, honestly, I'd purge it anyhow, chat is on my server, ssh in, email is thunderbird, applet ignored, what else does it do worth anything)04:38
chris4585I'd rather purge it in reality04:39
chris4585but my argument was for the common person04:39
cyberangeryeah, I know04:40
cyberangerI guess in ubuntu's mind, common person wants window buttons on the left, like a mac04:41
cyberangerand the new indicator setup04:41
cyberangerdespite how I hear alot to the contrary04:42
chris4585well after a week of using the window setup I didn't mind it actually I prefer it now since I have muscle memory built up04:42
cyberanger(and they have yet to do anything to really justify it)04:42
chris4585I figured I might as well not fight it04:42
cyberangermuscle memory, heh, works better when all match04:42
cyberangerand unfortunately, not so, I rarely see a mac in the shop04:43
cyberangerthey break sure, but one out of 15 are mac, at best04:43
chris4585they kind of did, the indicators are designed to be on the right so in unity maximized windows's controls will be beside the ubuntu icon04:43
cyberangerso ubuntu is the odd ball04:44
chris4585lol04:44
cyberangerchris4585: unity perhaps04:44
chris4585I don't see why they couldn't be on the right but meh04:44
chris4585I honestly can't wait to give fedora 15 with gnome shell a shot04:45
cyberanger(I mean ubuntu is already the oddball, but I'm the linux guy, servers aside, not much is linux aside from my toolkits)04:45
cyberangerseems alot of us have thoughts of jumping ship04:51
chris4585oh I'm not jumping, just playing on the jungle gym04:52
cyberangerso far, same04:53
cyberangerbut that's merely due to the way I run things, I'm not really doing things differently from debian04:53
vychuneo/23:57
cyberangerhey vychune23:59
vychuneevening23:59

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