chris4585 | anyone know how to turn off a indicator on gnome-panel? | 03:09 |
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wrst | chris4585 hmm that's a good question :) | 03:13 |
cyberanger | chris4585: details may help | 04:08 |
chris4585 | cyberanger, the little mail icon is there with no menu entries, quite annoying its there for no reason | 04:09 |
cyberanger | wrst: mail, the envelope? | 04:14 |
cyberanger | err, whoops | 04:15 |
cyberanger | chris4585: mail, the envelope? | 04:15 |
chris4585 | yes | 04:15 |
cyberanger | if so, right click, remove from panel | 04:15 |
chris4585 | cyberanger, if I do that then I lose my volume icon | 04:15 |
* chris4585 thinks its been a while since cyberanger has been on gnome | 04:16 | |
* cyberanger thinks he is typing this from lucid, gnome | 04:17 | |
chris4585 | :O!! | 04:18 |
* cyberanger thinks it just worked for him 5 minutes ago | 04:18 | |
chris4585 | well that was my shock of the night | 04:18 |
chris4585 | yes well this is 10.10 | 04:18 |
chris4585 | I love the indicators but in all seriousness the lack of gui options for them is very frustrating | 04:19 |
cyberanger | chris4585: yeah, I personally favor other setups, openbox and lxde the most, but aim for stock so far (unity is making me wonder a little if lubuntu is going to become my stock support) | 04:19 |
cyberanger | and my custom setups are not as popular at work, for the desktop rigs | 04:20 |
cyberanger | chris4585: so it will not do that on 10.10? | 04:20 |
chris4585 | so you're saying you may try unity more? | 04:20 |
chris4585 | cyberanger, I don't believe so | 04:20 |
cyberanger | I'm saying in it's current forum, it's not ready for new ubuntu users | 04:20 |
cyberanger | so I will be, but the deal is, it's this or lubuntu, and lubuntu is winning atm | 04:21 |
chris4585 | ah | 04:21 |
chris4585 | what I can't stand is Unity is changing so much | 04:21 |
cyberanger | chris4585: can you right click on the envelope and give me a list of options | 04:21 |
chris4585 | last week we got the blue ubuntu icon when there is a notification, I loved that! but now its just the tip of the corner is blue and I don't really like that as much.. | 04:22 |
chris4585 | cyberanger, that wont work... the right click option for it defaults to the applet handler to remove it etc.. | 04:23 |
chris4585 | and it wont remove it alone, it will remove the whole indicator applet | 04:23 |
chris4585 | with the volume Icon | 04:23 |
cyberanger | did in my case too, overlooked that (which is fine, my case is set and done, icecast source client) | 04:24 |
cyberanger | http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/remove-the-envelope-icon-from-the-gnome-indicator-applet | 04:25 |
chris4585 | only if there was a gui to do that except to disable it | 04:26 |
cyberanger | additional step, desired end result for us both (however since this is mostly pulseaudio and vlc, I could strip 9/10ths of this out and use alsamixer really, might as well leave it stock-ish) | 04:27 |
cyberanger | chris4585: that package needs to go, if you can just disable it, that works too | 04:27 |
chris4585 | I think earlier I actually did remove that with a bunch of other things and accidentally removed gnome-panel with a few other things... | 04:27 |
cyberanger | chris4585: I bet gconf has a boolean for it | 04:28 |
cyberanger | lemme see | 04:29 |
chris4585 | probably | 04:29 |
chris4585 | but gconf just shouldn't be the only way | 04:29 |
cyberanger | should vs is, ubuntu does some things that should be different in my mind at times | 04:33 |
cyberanger | you might be right | 04:33 |
cyberanger | but that is a point, it might be the only way | 04:34 |
cyberanger | chris4585: right or wrong, http://www.wiredrevolution.com/ubuntu/remove-the-envelope-icon-from-the-gnome-indicator-applet method does work | 04:37 |
cyberanger | so if we look in that, we can see what's able to be disabled | 04:37 |
chris4585 | indeed | 04:37 |
cyberanger | instead of purging it | 04:37 |
cyberanger | (however, honestly, I'd purge it anyhow, chat is on my server, ssh in, email is thunderbird, applet ignored, what else does it do worth anything) | 04:38 |
chris4585 | I'd rather purge it in reality | 04:39 |
chris4585 | but my argument was for the common person | 04:39 |
cyberanger | yeah, I know | 04:40 |
cyberanger | I guess in ubuntu's mind, common person wants window buttons on the left, like a mac | 04:41 |
cyberanger | and the new indicator setup | 04:41 |
cyberanger | despite how I hear alot to the contrary | 04:42 |
chris4585 | well after a week of using the window setup I didn't mind it actually I prefer it now since I have muscle memory built up | 04:42 |
cyberanger | (and they have yet to do anything to really justify it) | 04:42 |
chris4585 | I figured I might as well not fight it | 04:42 |
cyberanger | muscle memory, heh, works better when all match | 04:42 |
cyberanger | and unfortunately, not so, I rarely see a mac in the shop | 04:43 |
cyberanger | they break sure, but one out of 15 are mac, at best | 04:43 |
chris4585 | they kind of did, the indicators are designed to be on the right so in unity maximized windows's controls will be beside the ubuntu icon | 04:43 |
cyberanger | so ubuntu is the odd ball | 04:44 |
chris4585 | lol | 04:44 |
cyberanger | chris4585: unity perhaps | 04:44 |
chris4585 | I don't see why they couldn't be on the right but meh | 04:44 |
chris4585 | I honestly can't wait to give fedora 15 with gnome shell a shot | 04:45 |
cyberanger | (I mean ubuntu is already the oddball, but I'm the linux guy, servers aside, not much is linux aside from my toolkits) | 04:45 |
cyberanger | seems alot of us have thoughts of jumping ship | 04:51 |
chris4585 | oh I'm not jumping, just playing on the jungle gym | 04:52 |
cyberanger | so far, same | 04:53 |
cyberanger | but that's merely due to the way I run things, I'm not really doing things differently from debian | 04:53 |
vychune | o/ | 23:57 |
cyberanger | hey vychune | 23:59 |
vychune | evening | 23:59 |
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