[00:00] <benzaldehyde> cosmo: just that you can have up to 4 primaries and why not use all primaries
[00:01] <dasboot> just got done smoking some reefer
[00:01] <dasboot> thinking about hitting some natty action
[00:01] <dasboot> narwhalling it
[00:01] <austin_> after deleting other partitions, can i delete the swap, or should i just reinstall ubuntu?
[00:02] <cosmo> benzaldehyde, so should I change the extended partition to a primary for linux and one for swap?
[00:02] <dasboot> austin_, you should probably move on to a better distro.
[00:02] <austin_> dasboot: such as?
[00:02] <brittdun> I need help. I accidently removed ubuntu one from the taskbar and now I can't figure out how to add it back.
[00:02] <dasboot> austin_, fedora or mepis
[00:03] <austin_> dasboot: this is for a technology-illiterate friend.
[00:03] <dasboot> austin_, opensuse is very good also
[00:03] <GVal> benzaldehyde: im sorry for inactivy is that a channel ? ##linux ?
[00:03] <benzaldehyde> cosmo: you see like you want to set things in stone, have all primaries is cleaner and more managable, extendeds are all out of order by number and confusing, you can do swap as primary, i would do all 4 primaries
[00:03] <benzaldehyde> *seem
[00:04] <TemplarJRC> @search 1812
[00:04] <austin_> dasboot: and since this is an older laptop, i think i'll just stick on xubuntu for the lightness of it.
[00:04] <benzaldehyde> GVal: it is a channel
[00:04] <reut> hello, I need some help with implementing an AVL tree :)
[00:04] <austin_> dasboot: also, what are the benefits of those distros as opposed to ubuntu?
[00:04] <dasboot> OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ME SO HORNY OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO OOOOOOOOOO ME SO HORNY. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ME SO HORNY. ME LOVE YOU LONGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG TIME.
[00:04] <[twisti]> in my settings for monitor, i only get resolutions up to 800x600. can anyone tell me how to get higher resolutions ? im not interested in it detecting my monitor, i just want to be able to tell it what resolution to use
[00:05] <zvacet> austin_: you can leave swap,but in that case manual parition your drive to avoid getting two swap partitions
[00:05] <reut> twisti you should go to system->monitors and choose the resolution you want
[00:05] <[twisti]> reut: in my settings for monitor, i only get resolutions up to 800x600.
[00:05] <austin_> zvacet: i'm prolly just going to reinstall the entire thing to xubuntu anyways.
[00:05] <reut> you should also make sure you have the right driver in use
[00:06] <[twisti]> i clearly dont
[00:06] <zvacet> austin_: if you want something light try lubuntu
[00:06] <reut> what graphic card?
[00:06] <[twisti]> no idea
[00:06] <reut> :)
[00:06] <[twisti]> whatever virtualbox simulates
[00:06] <Hanse> how can i connect witch xchat to a server manually?
[00:07] <brittdun> I need help. I accidently removed ubuntu one from the panel and now I can't figure out how to add it back.
[00:07] <zvacet> austin_: it is ubuntu with lxcd see http://lubuntu.net/
[00:07] <tntcoda> If i run a tightvnc server is that tied to a speicifc X11 display? i.e if I want to run 2 vnc servers, do i need 2 x11 servers running beforehand
[00:07] <[twisti]> i get that normal people want the proper drivers and stuff, but i dont care
[00:07] <[twisti]> i just want to use a higher resolution
[00:07] <reut> [twisti]: http://www.linuxformat.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6438
[00:08] <[twisti]> oh, so no easy button to press i guess
[00:08] <[twisti]> yay.
[00:08] <[twisti]> thanks
[00:08] <reut> well
[00:08] <reut> it's not that hard either, trust me, just go through and if it doesn't work be sure to come back
[00:08] <reut> good luck
[00:08] <[twisti]> yeah, stuck at step 1
[00:09] <[twisti]> installing guest additions does nothing at all
[00:09] <[twisti]> i guess thats actually step 3
[00:09] <reut> [twisti]:  where is it that you're stuck exactly?
[00:10] <reut> you can't find the file?
[00:10] <[twisti]> well, i dont have to do step 2, and step 3 does nothing at all
[00:10] <[twisti]> and then in step 5 the directory doesnt exist
[00:12] <chillyskrilly> sup y'all
[00:13] <chillyskrilly> anybody want to give me a hand setting up an ssh server
[00:13] <chillyskrilly> want to set up nomachine x
[00:13] <chillyskrilly> but have no experience with networking
[00:14] <oc80z> sure
[00:14] <oc80z> its real easy.
[00:14] <chillyskrilly> word up
[00:14] <oc80z> do you have a terminal open
[00:14] <chillyskrilly> i have installed the ssh server
[00:14] <chillyskrilly> but i don't know if it's running
[00:14] <chillyskrilly> in addition, i don't know how to dial into it- or well, connect you know
[00:14] <oc80z> you can try to connect to it ..
[00:14] <oc80z> with the command ssh
[00:14] <chillyskrilly> from another machine?
[00:14] <oc80z> of locally
[00:14] <ubuntu> hi, after i shutdown the hard way, wlan doestn exist anymore. and mouse freeze at startup. what can i do?
[00:14] <chillyskrilly> Oh shoot, neat
[00:15] <oc80z> you can ssh 127.0.0.1
[00:15] <chillyskrilly> i'll try it.  thanks ocs
[00:15] <chillyskrilly> btw nice nick
[00:15] <oc80z> fux yeah
[00:15] <streifi> chillyskrilly: process: prep sshd
[00:15] <ubuntu> wlan-card seems to be gone
[00:15] <oc80z> ubuntu:  reboot
[00:16] <streifi> chillyskrilly: connection: ssh user@host
[00:16] <ubuntu> done yet. didnt work.
[00:16] <oc80z> could have been a race condition with udev and network manager
[00:16] <oc80z> do you automatically log in? or do you manually enter user/password
[00:16] <chillyskrilly> ok so it seems to be working
[00:16] <ubuntu> oc80z: yes, there were some udev messages!
[00:16] <ubuntu> manually
[00:16] <chillyskrilly> manually enter username and password
[00:16] <oc80z> ubuntu: ok thats good keep manually, auto login is messed up imo.
[00:17] <chillyskrilly> ok it seems to be working
[00:17] <ubuntu> oc80z: thanks. can i uninstall udev-stuff?
[00:17] <chillyskrilly> i have another machine on my network, or can probably ssh in from my phone
[00:17] <chillyskrilly> do i just type in my ip address
[00:17] <chillyskrilly> or do i need to set up port forwarding on my router to be able to access it
[00:17] <Superstar> Hello people. I'm having trouble with bios not detecting my usb drive. I have a 500gb usb freeagent drive that's detected but not the other. Both have the bits flipped (change from removable drive to fixed drive) and both are set to Active. Does anyone have any ideas as to why this is happening?
[00:18] <oc80z> chillyskrilly:  if you want to contect remotely , open your firewall port for port 22
[00:18] <oc80z> chilly, just be like, ssh -l username 127.0.0.1 or be like ssh chillyskrilly@127.0.0.1
[00:18] <oc80z> let me know if you want me to test it remotely.. you have to open that port in your firewall
[00:18] <oc80z> after that ill show you some cool shit, like running an ssh-ftp server. or whatever.
[00:18] <oc80z> ubuntu: no the udev stuff is not uninstallable.
[00:18] <chillyskrilly> how do i open port 22 on my firewall?
[00:19] <chillyskrilly> Yeah, basically i want to get it set up to where i can access an encrypted virtual machine while i travel abroad without necessitating having any encrypted information on my laptop
[00:19] <chillyskrilly> since customs gets weird in some nations
[00:19] <oc80z> well
[00:19] <ubuntu> oc80z: ok, i found something in google. bug that udev breaks wlan.
[00:19] <oc80z> yeah i can help you set that up
[00:19] <oc80z> its pretty easy
[00:19] <oc80z> believe it or not.
[00:19] <chillyskrilly> i'll google it and brb
[00:20] <oc80z> ubuntu: what are the errors use pastebin and post em up
[00:20] <oc80z> http://goo.gl/ixcN9
[00:20] <oc80z> friggin ah..
[00:20] <oc80z> chilly just get your ipaddress, be like ifconfig | more
[00:21] <oc80z> ifconfig | grep addr
[00:21] <drknzz> Hi guys! I am on Xubuntu Maverick x64 and i need APTonCD to transfer ubuntu-restricted-extras and other related packages to another offline computer... is there any chance that the package is somehow damaged? It is asking me to install qt-related stuff :S
[00:21] <ubuntu> oc80z: ok. i cant right now because im in a live cd. im trying something with udev. thanks!
[00:21] <oc80z> ip addr | grep inet
[00:21] <chillyskrilly> I'll try it
[00:22] <Furry> JanC, you still therE?
[00:22] <oc80z> heh
[00:22] <oc80z> you can type, ip route show
[00:22] <chillyskrilly> shouldnt the server be automatically listening on port 22 if ssh is running?
[00:22] <oc80z> to get your gateway for any route not matched...
[00:22] <oc80z> then fuckin , open http://192.168.1.1
[00:22] <oc80z> if thats your default route
[00:23] <IdleOne> !language | oc80z
[00:23] <oc80z> chilly yeah pretty much
[00:23] <IdleOne> chillyskrilly: I feel I need to warn you that allowing a stranger remote access to your system is not the best idea. your call.
[00:23] <chillyskrilly> kk
[00:24] <oc80z> !langualge | IdleOne
[00:24] <oc80z> !language | IdleOne
[00:24] <oc80z> anyways, fsck you bot.
[00:24] <oc80z> i came in here for a dumbass question
[00:24] <FloodBot3> oc80z: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:24] <kzman> which+
[00:24] <bazhang> oc80z, stop that
[00:24] <oc80z> what the shit is that for
[00:25] <kzman> sorry, which partition must be active, (or boot), the windows' or ubuntu's?
[00:25] <oc80z> uh
[00:26] <oc80z> whats your ip address, thanks.
[00:26] <oc80z> bazhang,
[00:26] <IdleOne> 192.168.1.1
[00:26] <bazhang> oc80z, yes?
[00:26] <meLon> Anybody know how to get output similar to what this guy posted?  http://forums.verizon.com/t5/High-Speed-Internet-DSL-and-Dial/Slower-than-Dialup-Please-help/m-p/299359
[00:27] <oc80z> kzman, you familiar with the applet in gnome that controls cpu scale profile , like ondemand, conservative,
[00:27] <chillyskrilly> g2g
[00:29] <oc80z> duno why ondemand goes to 1/2 CPU per core when laptop is not on charge.. but when oncharge, it can scale 100%
[00:29] <folorn> when you need to make a file like able to do the ./ what you do -install file bascially anyone remember?
[00:30] <oc80z> folorn, you can right click , properties, allow execute. or you can chmod +x file
[00:30] <benzaldehyde> you can find your router ip by cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
[00:31] <oc80z> thats not reliable.
[00:31] <folorn> ahh thats it im in terminal hrm im useing backtrack atm so things need to be careful i think its the chmod one
[00:31] <folorn> hmm
[00:32] <oc80z> why would you tell anyone that benzaldehyde
[00:32] <oc80z>  
[00:34] <oc80z> ip ro sho | grep default | awk '{print $3}'
[00:34] <oc80z> heh
[00:34] <edbian> ip addr
[00:34] <Gitt> does anyone know what driver I need for the broadcom netxtreme bcm57765? I can't find any info
[00:35] <Gitt> I tried bnx2, but no go
[00:36] <WaltherFI> Any reasons why Asus Xonar DG doesn't work properly - results in clipping, bad quality sound? Ubuntu 10.10 / 11.04
[00:37] <folorn> any of you folks gimmie a idea for good msg's i tried empathy but it dont work with my distro and i got kopete which seems to not function or  im not use to it so could someone point me in the right direction?
[00:37] <folorn> msg's = msger's ;)
[00:38] <rww> folorn: backtrack is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Try #backtrack-linux.
[00:38] <oc80z> gitt may be,
[00:38] <folorn> ahh thats the channel heh btw thanks sorry im use to just comeing in here :)
[00:38] <oc80z> whats wrong with it
[00:38] <oc80z> folorn whats good?
[00:39] <ayghad> bonsoir tt le monde
[00:39] <[snake]> one time I put a script somewhere, and I was able to right click and execute that script... what the hell did I do??
[00:39] <folorn> cant seem to get it working
[00:39] <oc80z> folorn try pidgin
[00:39] <folorn> did wont work on backtrack ;(
[00:39] <ayghad> hi every body
[00:39] <oc80z> you using r2?
[00:39] <oc80z> try removing and installing from source, it works.
[00:40] <itilious> whats the route setup for a vpn connection?
[00:40] <[snake]> Is there a folder to put that script in? so I can right-click, choose it, and it will execute?
[00:41] <itilious> how can i set my network traffic for 192.168.5.x range to GO TO that actualy network thru vpn?
[00:41] <kailkitsune> did any one else have java problems after the ubuntu 10.04 to 10.10 upgrade?
[00:41] <Gitt> oc80z: may be?
[00:42] <oc80z> kailkitsune:  what problems?
[00:42] <oc80z> gitt: did google fix it.
[00:42] <[snake]> I found it, sorry for disturbing the channel, will be back sometime. piece out.
[00:42] <bouma> hello, with the system->prefs->'start up applications', can i just strip out all the stuff i dont think i need for a more streamlines lighter weight desktop, is there a better or proper way to do this ?
[00:43] <[snake]> lol meant peace*
[00:43] <Gitt> oc80z google said to ask you
[00:43] <kailkitsune> it stoped working all together nothing will load in it, reinstall fixed nothing
[00:44] <Gitt> seriously though, I've been on google, and no, it didn't fix it
[00:44] <cosmo> other than the main partition and swap does linux need any other partitions?
[00:44] <bouma> its not the easiest thing to google cause googling 'start up applications' gives tones even with ubuntu 10.04 remove
[00:45] <oc80z> heh
[00:45] <pseudosmart_> does anyone know  how to register an  nickname on freenode? I keep trying to send 'REGISTER <password> <email address>' to NickServ, and it responds that my email address isn't valid?
[00:45] <rww> pseudosmart_: don't include the <>s
[00:45] <oc80z> use a fake email
[00:45] <pseudosmart_> ahhh
[00:45] <tsimpson> oc80z: don't tell people that
[00:46] <oc80z> i tell people that all the time.
[00:46] <rww> fake email --> you can't confirm account and it drops automatically in two days
[00:46] <oc80z> nope
[00:46] <Gitt> neither my 9.04 detects the card, or my 10.10... blah
[00:46] <tsimpson> oc80z: yep
[00:47] <oc80z> fake is better
[00:47] <oc80z> wow
[00:47] <oc80z> gitt
[00:47] <oc80z> http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/netxtreme_desktop.php
[00:47] <FloodBot3> oc80z: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:47] <bouma> does anyone know the 'correct' way to remove startup apps ?
[00:47] <oc80z> FUCK YOU FLOOD BOT
[00:47] <benzaldehyde> pseudosmart_: you have the password infront of the email, other way buddy
[00:47] <LjL> !language | oc80z
[00:48] <bouma> its a pitty i cant just disable some, there is only edit, and remove.
[00:48] <pseudosmart_> oh? it worked!
[00:48] <Gitt> yeah, it said tg3, which is loaded. Another forum post suggested bnx2, which is also loaded
[00:48] <Gitt> neither initialize the hardware
[00:48] <bouma> after something is removed, how would i get it back if i wanted to, i guess i could create a new account and check the default startup apps?
[00:49] <cholo> !cunt
[00:49] <Gitt> oh my bad, I thought I said I tried tg3 when I mentioned bnx2... *sigh* long day
[00:49] <cholo> !shit_in_the_mouth_of_chrirst
[00:49] <bouma> is there a guide to totally streamlining ubuntu 10.04, ie remove everything unneeded, eg resident printer apps for someone with no printer, bluetooth app for someone with no bluetooth, etc
[00:49] <bouma> evo alarm for someone who wishes evo could be uninstalled
[00:50] <WaltherFI> bouma: alternate installer cd
[00:50] <rww> sure is modal around here.
[00:50] <pseudosmart_> cool...okay, so my nick is registered to my email, how do I add the #ubuntu channel to Empathy?
[00:50] <IdleOne> pseudosmart_: you want to check the preferences and add it to Favorites
[00:50] <bouma> WaltherFI: really? i've installed from the alternate installer cd, but i thought it was primarily used for the text mode installer + full disk encryption, where is the strip down stuff you mention ?
[00:51] <WaltherFI> bouma: during the installation you can manipulate the amount of stuff you want to install
[00:51] <WaltherFI> bouma: can't remember exactly where and how
[00:51] <WaltherFI> bouma: but it should be there
[00:53] <kailkitsune> no love for the java challenged T_T
[00:54] <bazhang> kailkitsune, enable the partner repo
[00:54] <bazhang> !partner > kailkitsune
[00:54] <bazhang> !java | kailkitsune
[00:55] <bouma> WaltherFI: well anyway my current query is what is the correct way to remove 'start up applications', eg if i remove them and want them back i cant do that, and there is no good explaination for some of the consequences, eg if i remove the 'launch personal file sharing if enabled' does that mean that i cant share at all, or that it doesnt go memory resident unless i trigger it manually.
[00:55] <benzaldehyde> kailkitsune: default-java works too i believe
[00:55] <rww> bouma: if you uncheck the checkbox in Startup Applications, they'll still be there (so you can re-enable them) but won't run
[00:56] <bouma> WaltherFI: and eg, is the evo alarm notifier, print queue manager etc mem resident? or just things that load and then unload
[00:56] <WaltherFI> bouma: like rww said. just by unticking the boxes they're not loaded to memory but you can launch them manually and even enable it back to startup programs later if needed
[00:57] <bouma> rww, ah of course, hrmm.. i might have already removed one or two, where is the template? can i copy it back
[00:57] <rww> bouma: I don't know where the template is; I'm not on a GNOME system right now.
[00:57] <WaltherFI> bouma: also, try two very good console programs: top and powertop
[00:57] <pseudosmart_> thanks for the help! But it looks like xchat is easier to set up to use IRC
[00:58] <bouma> WaltherFI: yeh sudo top is pretty useful
[00:58] <WaltherFI> bouma: top shows how much cpu and memory is in use by different apps and powertop shows the power usage
[00:58] <CorpSamich> Hey guys, I need some help figuring out how to install my Geforce Nvidia GT220 Drivers when I'm using my Onboard Graphics to install, Got the .run, and for some reason it says 'Error: Nvidia installer must be run as root' when I try to run it in the terminal. Help?
[00:58] <WaltherFI> in case you're running on battery
[00:58] <bouma> WaltherFI: thanks
[00:58] <WaltherFI> CorpSamich: sudo sh thefilename.sh
[00:59] <WaltherFI> CorpSamich: oops, sorry. sudo run filename.run
[00:59] <WaltherFI> or anyway, sudo in front of the command.
[00:59] <bouma> do i need Certificate key storage, and policyKit authentication agent ?
[00:59] <WaltherFI> CorpSamich: sudo stands for SUperuser DO
[00:59] <WaltherFI> bouma: those are quite necessary
[01:00] <CorpSamich> Kay, I'll try it man, Thanks :3
[01:00] <WaltherFI> bouma: to for example know which websites are certified aand trusted
[01:00] <WaltherFI> anyway, sleep now, bye guys
[01:01] <bouma> if i unselect pulse at startup, will it just use alsa, so no multiple sounds playing, but otherwise more lightweight? this is a slow machine
[01:01] <bouma> and why not use dmix ?
[01:01] <marvin> how do i edit fstab?
[01:01] <xangua> bouma: more lightweight how exactly¿ makes no sence
[01:02] <WaltherFI> bouma: just as a suggestion, for a very very lightweight system you could try PuppyLinux or DSL - damn small linux
[01:02] <george> Could anyone help, please!
[01:02] <WaltherFI> !ubottu repeat
[01:03] <WaltherFI> hm, no ubottu anymore?
[01:03] <WaltherFI> or then i just fail.
[01:03] <kailkitsune> thanks for the help ive got some work to do now
[01:03] <bouma> xangua: well, im using 10.04 cause 10.10 is broken due to pulse using so much resources that the sound stutters and corrupts, but only when the system is under any load at all, when eg a safemode X is logged in without eg metacity or anything at all, it plays sound perfectly fine eg with mplayer some.mp3
[01:04] <george> NEED HELP... ANYONE?
[01:04] <soreau> ! help | george
[01:04] <marvin> me
[01:04] <xangua> !caps | george
[01:04] <bouma> xangua: i should say 10.10 is broken on this machine, i use it fine on other faster machines, its just that this is only a p4 1.6ghz with 512meg, so thats why im stripping down ubuntu a bit
[01:05] <george> ok...
[01:05] <soreau> george: No one can help you unless you state your problem in detail
[01:05] <xangua> bouma: you could try lubuntu, uses lxde and less resourses
[01:05] <bouma> xangua: also i have the windows utorrent running under wine which doesnt help, but see its not my machine, im accomodating my uncle's needs, i would just use rtorrent
[01:05] <bouma> xangua: yeah but its also fuggly
[01:05] <george> I just installed motion, and used update-rc.d to update runlevels, but program is not starting @ startup....how can I make the program start with computer?
[01:06] <Senix> Is there anyone in here that has any experience with Squid server on Ubuntu?
[01:06] <marvin> xubuntu
[01:06] <bouma> xangua: i and my uncle really like gnome 2.x with clearlooks, its great, nautilus is the best filemanager on all os's imho
[01:06] <bouma> xangua: compact layout ftw
[01:06] <soreau> george: User apps should be put in sys>prefs>startup applications
[01:07] <Josh2> while i'm sure it has nothing to do with ubuntu, what is it in ubuntu distributions that makes the ^C visible when you hit ctrl-c in bash?
[01:07] <george> yeah... I tried that already. but the web-server will not start b/c needs sudo priviliges
[01:08] <soreau> george: Apps that require privs should be started from /etc/rc.local
[01:08] <Senix> Is there anyone in here that has any experience with Squid server on Ubuntu?
[01:08] <[snake]> Is there a deb binary for Multi sampling on a midi keyboard, not with JACK AUDIO
[01:08] <soreau> Josh2: Ctrl+C
[01:08] <soreau> Josh2: Ask in #bash
[01:08] <Josh2> soreau: no i meant historically the actual '^C' isnt visible
[01:08] <Josh2> will do
[01:09] <george> so how do I get it to start @ bootup?
[01:09] <soreau> [snake]: What's wrong with jack?
[01:09] <[snake]> soreau, It doesn't like me, or my audio card
[01:09] <soreau> [snake]: What makes you say that?
[01:10] <[snake]> soreau, You should be a computer trauma counselor.
[01:10] <bouma> xangua: but thanks, btw, something that might sway me more, does dsl have good support for an old ati radeon 9550, cause im not really getting any gpu video decode acceleration at all, andi know it does do a little which would help with high bitrate high res video, which is one thing which is marginal. eg there some encodes of evil dead my uncle has and theyre pretty good, intermediate quality. but i think cause the h264 uses arithmatic encoding for
[01:10] <soreau> [snake]: I have been experimenting with jack lately and it's great now that I have it all setup
[01:10] <[snake]> soreau, I open it, and it tries to start, and fails terriblty.
[01:10] <soreau> [snake]: Right, can you pastebin the output to paste.ubuntu.com?
[01:11] <[snake]> soreau, specifically, it says : COuld not start JACK. Sorry. (let me paste that output for you now)
[01:12] <george> @ soreau: the path /etc/rc.local does not exist... and how could I start it from there?
[01:12] <[snake]> soreau, http://pastebin.com/rjiv9Pnd
[01:12] <soreau> george: It's not a path, it's a file
[01:12] <soreau> george: gksu gedit /etc/rc.local
[01:13] <george> @ soreau: ohh ok... I'll take a look... thanks!!
[01:13] <sebastian> how can i change the place of the close icon?
[01:13] <soreau> [snake]: 1) Use qjackctl to start jack if you're not already 2) Shutdown all other apps before attempting to start jack
[01:13] <[snake]> soreau, oh... mmkay
[01:13] <soreau> [snake]: Namely, any app that possibly might open the audio interface like your browser
[01:13] <[snake]> like all of them
[01:14] <wirrr> i have been looking for a linux graphical traceroute utility for quite some time
[01:14] <[snake]> soreau, ok
[01:14] <soreau> [snake]: (even if it's not playing audio, it may have the interface open in which case jack will fail to start)
[01:14] <cosmo> what size partitions should I make for / and swap (I have 200gig hd space and 5gig of ram)
[01:14] <wirrr> does anyone here know of one?
[01:14] <chuqui>  /msg NickServ identify chuquizunga17
[01:14] <bouma> xangua: most h264 videos are fine, but these ones in particular dont play smoothly, and ive looked for a way to transcode in a way that doesnt reencode, just changes the cabac to cavlc, but although its something that has been discussed in mencoder maillists etc a perfectly possible theoretically, nobody has gotten around to writing a proggy for it in the years its been discussed. pitty cause with mobile h264 viewers most which dont support the full
[01:15] <MK`> chuqui change your password asap
[01:15] <[snake]> soreau, even this xchat?
[01:15] <george> @ soreau: do I need to enter just the command of the program or need to be prefix with sudo?
[01:15] <soreau> wirrr: xtraceroute? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39941
[01:15] <soreau> [snake]: I think xchat should behave properly but you never know
[01:15] <tommy_> 大家早
[01:16] <soreau> [snake]: (xchat is capable of playing audio so it might be a problem)
[01:16] <soreau> george: Just enter the command, using the full path to the binary
[01:16] <tommy_> who chat with me ??
[01:16] <soreau> george: It needs the full path but not sudo
[01:16] <|Long|> hi, need some help here on dual booting, it boot fine but wont let me selecting?
[01:16] <soreau> ! cn | tommy_
[01:16] <george> @soreau: like /etc/init.d/program start
[01:17] <soreau> |Long|: What do you mean?
[01:17] <|Long|> it booting on ubuntu first, i want it boot to xp
[01:17] <soreau> george: Well if it's a service, it should start automatically. All installed services should already start by default on boot
[01:17] <bowflex> I am using an MSI H55-GD65 which has a ALC889 audio chipset.  I am having trouble getting any sound to come out of the optical spdif.  I have even attempt to construct an asound.conf to no avail.  The reciever sees a 2.0 channel PCM as soon as it is connected, but no sound every comes through.
[01:17] <soreau> ! grub2 | |Long|
[01:18] <|Long|> soreau, thanks
[01:18] <george> @soreau: but it is not... the script is created with all runlevels but is not starting
[01:18] <Josh2> soreau: set echo-control-characters off starting in bash 4.1 and no way in bash 4.0 just for information's sake
[01:18] <Josh2> soreau: thanks for the referrel
[01:18] <Josh2> *referral
[01:19] <soreau> |Long|: I believe you want to edit GRUB_DEFAULT in /etc/default/grub and set it to whatever offset you want (0 is the first entry)
[01:19] <Maddie> join #reddit
[01:19] <soreau> |Long|: And save the file, then run update-grub2 or whatever it is
[01:19] <Guest26422> i have an external hdd that i plugged in via esata but i know that its some kind of linux partition but i cant mount it help please
[01:19] <[snake]> soreau, it still didn't work
[01:20] <soreau> [snake]: Any different error message this time?
[01:20] <tommy_> soft center for ubuntu
[01:20] <edbian> Guest26422: does it show up in the output of sudo fdisk -l  ?
[01:20] <joshfng> So do you guys have any links on getting started developing python applications for ubuntu?
[01:20] <edbian> joshfng: You have me :)  Wanna pm?
[01:21] <[snake]> soreau, it's the same.
[01:21] <silvering> hi guys, can somebody help me customize my irssi client?
[01:21] <soreau> ! python | joshfng
[01:21] <joshfng> edbian: sure
[01:21] <snow_ru> hi
[01:21] <tommy_> ubottu 你会说中文么？
[01:21] <soreau> [snake]: You should probably ask in #jack and pastebin the output
[01:21] <Logan_> !irssi | silvering
[01:21] <Guest26422> edbian, yes it does
[01:21] <edbian> Guest26422: what is it's /dev/XXX ID?
[01:21] <Logan_> !zh | tommy_
[01:21] <silvering> thanks, will see
[01:21] <snow_ru> hi
[01:21] <edbian> joshfng: Have you ever programming before?
[01:21] <george> @soreau: the scripts are in appropiate rc.d but is not starting
[01:21] <[snake]> soreau, what is JACK even for, and what's so special about it?
[01:21] <soreau> [snake]: IMHO, jack is the way to go for what you're trying to do.
[01:22] <soreau> ! jack | [snake]
[01:22] <Guest26422> edbian, sda4
[01:22] <soreau> ah man
[01:22] <soreau> !info jack | [snake]
[01:22] <soreau> erg
[01:22] <soreau> !info jackd | [snake]
[01:22] <joshfng> edbian: yea I'm an experienced php and ruby developer. I was going to try out the gtk bindings for ruby but they are outdated and python seems the way to go besides c on Ubuntu
[01:22] <edbian> Guest26422: sudo mount /dev/sda4 /mnt
[01:22] <edbian> Guest26422: Then what happens?
[01:22] <joshfng> edbian: plus its a good excuse to learn python :)
[01:22] <soreau> [snake]: A lot of really cool apps depend on jack, including sampling, effects and recording application
[01:23] <soreau> !info jackrack | [snake]
[01:23] <soreau> !info jack-rack | [snake]
[01:23] <tommy_> ok/
[01:23] <KINGOFSWORDS> hi
[01:23] <soreau> [snake]: It's pretty cool stuff once you get it going
[01:23] <KINGOFSWORDS> my title bars disapeared after playing with compiz
[01:23] <Guest26422> edbian, must specify the fs type
[01:23] <KINGOFSWORDS> any ideas?
[01:23] <soreau> [snake]: See ardour and hydrogen
[01:23] <soreau> !info ardour | [snake]
[01:23] <edbian> joshfng: gotta love python.  Not sure if you need help.  Just import gtk and go nuts: http://www.pygtk.org/docs/pygtk/
[01:23] <Logan_> !enter | KINGOFSWORDS
[01:23] <[snake]> soreau, did you have a ton of hair on your floo--- I mean problems that involved hair los--- errr yeah basically
[01:24] <soreau> !info hydrogen | [snake]
[01:24] <edbian> Guest26422: What fs is it according to fdisk ?
[01:24] <KINGOFSWORDS> sorry
[01:24] <edbian> Guest26422: It's not ext3 or ext4 if that message came up
[01:24] <soreau> [snake]: Ask in #jack and see if you can't get some help getting it working
[01:24] <Guest26422> edbian, linux
[01:24] <soreau> [snake]: They helped me get it working on my system here
[01:24] <wirrr>  soreau: thank you
[01:24] <soreau> wirrr: np
[01:24] <induz> hello
[01:24] <[snake]> soreau, mmkay thanks.
[01:25] <edbian> Guest26422: try file -sL /dev/sda4
[01:25] <induz> How can i  view/read some iBooks [.pdf] on my Kindle?/
[01:25] <induz> is there any transfer s/w
[01:25] <joshfng> edbian: thanks for the link. GUI wise everyone is using glade I take it? Also with gnome 3 out is a lot of what I'm about to learn going to become deprecated?
[01:25] <induz> from PDF to Kindle
[01:26] <Guest26422> edbian, no such partition found
[01:26] <KINGOFSWORDS> woohoo found out y...getting better with this linux
[01:26] <induz> no
[01:26] <edbian> joshfng: glade is not good for beginners.  It just makes things more confusing so avoid that for now.  What you're learning won't become outdated.  That is the official documentation so it should be up to date.  If not you just won't see any of the new stuff in there
[01:26] <edbian> Guest26422: ?  Wasn't that the partition you listed?
[01:27] <Guest26422> yes
[01:27] <Guest26422> edbian, yes
[01:27] <|Long|> anyone know, what is the package name for check disk free space
[01:27] <edbian> Guest26422: sudo file /dev/sda4
[01:27] <joshfng> edbian: awesome. Thanks again!
[01:27] <|Long|> kiwi or some
[01:27] <edbian> joshfng: no problem :)
[01:27] <induz> Disk Usage analyser
[01:27] <induz> but i am looking for pdf to Kindle
[01:28] <Guest26422> edbian, data
[01:28] <edbian> Guest26422: mmmm, hang on. Gotta google more
[01:28] <induz> why kindle is only for Amazon books
[01:28] <cosmo> is 20 gig for the root partition large enough or do I need to make it bigger?
[01:28] <Sx2> Hello all
[01:28] <Guest26422> edbian, it also says block special
[01:29] <edbian> Guest26422: still not really what I want.  Do you know if it's ext3 or ext4 or something strange?
[01:29] <jawnv6> I'm on 9.04, what's the least painful way to get to something more updated?  going throuhg update manager to 9.10 -> 10.04.. etc?
[01:29] <xangua> jawnv6: fresh install
[01:29] <Guest26422> i know that one partition that is on the drive is xfs
[01:30] <Sx2> Has anyone else experienced a network error since an update to the network stuff that happens 1 or 2 days ago?
[01:30] <moldpeople> I'm getting this when installing from a live CD: Sorry, an error occured and it was not possible to install the bootloader at the specified location.
[01:30] <edbian> Guest26422: But you're not sure if it's /dev/sda4 ? What is all on there?  4 partitions all 'linux' ?
[01:31] <Guest26422> edbian, 5 partitions 4 linux 1 extented
[01:31] <edbian> Guest26422: sudo file -s /dev/sda4  ?
[01:31] <Guest26422> edbian, data
[01:32] <edbian> Guest26422: Thinking that's wrong:  http://lkml.indiana.edu/hypermail/linux/kernel/0408.2/1482.html
[01:32] <julian__> why does Network Manager insist on wanting to connect on startup/resume/reboot to an access point i connected to, only once, with very poor signal strength? my home AP is 10 times as strong, according to iwlist
[01:33] <julian__> i connected to this other AP almost 2 years ago, at a guess.
[01:33] <Guest26422> edbian, so you think that it is a raiserFS
[01:34] <Sx2> Anyone know of possible problems with a recent network update to 10.10 meerkat
[01:34] <yuskhanzab> anyone here from malaysia?
[01:34] <edbian> Guest26422: I think it is messed up because the file command returns 'data' instead of a filesystem type
[01:34] <julian__> is it possible that Network Manager is completely irrational?
[01:35] <Guest26422> edbian, is there any other things that we can try to see the fstype
[01:35] <wirrr> soreau, i am registering for ubuntuforums to see the link you posted. would you like me to "refer you"?
[01:35] <edbian> Guest26422: I'm googling furiously.  What does gparted think of all this?
[01:36] <soreau> wirrr: no
[01:36] <kristian-aalborg> hello
[01:36] <Guest26422> edbian, it says unknown but it does show the xfs partition
[01:36] <soreau> julian__: Yes
[01:36] <kristian-aalborg> sorry to those also on #ubuntu-beginners where I already posted... but this seems complicated
[01:36] <lesrar> after (trying) to change from 10.10 to 10.04 because of random crashes, i have a problem when installing on intel fakeraid, in the last step of installation i cant choose the mapper/isw_bla device to let the bootloader be installed, too
[01:36] <edbian> Guest26422: gparted calls it unknown?  Maybe we're missing the xfs module or something.  Where did this partition come from?
[01:37] <soreau> julian__: You can set rules in sys>prefs>networking IIRC
[01:37] <kristian-aalborg> I have a netinst. of 10.4 which keeps disconnecting... I tried all the tricks I could find or think of... it got a bit better but it still happens
[01:38] <kristian-aalborg> I tested the card in another computer... no prob.... I tested another card in this computer... no prob
[01:38] <edbian> Guest26422: I see that xfs is fully supported by Ubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XFS
[01:38] <Guest26422> edbian, its where my pvr saves all video files. i was told from my cable provider a while ago that its a linux partition
[01:38] <edbian> Guest26422: alright.  Maybe they encrypted it?  (or lied)  I'm curious now.
[01:39] <edbian> Guest26422: sudo mount -t xfs /dev/sda4 /mnt
[01:39] <edbian> Guest26422: Assuming that /dev/sda4 is the xfs partition (if it's not it should just error out)
[01:40] <Guest26422> edbian, no go
[01:40] <edbian> Guest26422: what did it say?
[01:41] <Guest26422> edbian, basicly what it said is that its a wrong fs type
[01:42] <kristian-aalborg> I'm starting to think it's the networking part of Ubuntu 10.4 that's messed up... thus I'm thinking of doing a sudo do-release-upgrade
[01:42] <edbian> Guest26422: Can gparted 'check' this filesystem?
[01:42] <Sx2> Anyone know of possible problems with a recent network update to 10.10 meerkat
[01:42] <snow_ru> hi
[01:42] <MK`> My keyboard seems to only be able to press a certain number of keys at once, and it's not always consistent. is this an ubuntu issue or a hardcoded limitation in the keyboard?
[01:43] <kristian-aalborg> I'd love to hear your thoughts on this..
[01:43] <snow_ru> hmm
[01:43] <antonio_> hi....I'm trying to print on a remote printer...the printer is detected but it doesn't print
[01:43] <Sx2> MK`: Are you on a laptop?
[01:43] <snow_ru> the latest qt in repository is 4.6.2 while the current is already 4.7.2 :(
[01:43] <Guest26422> edbian, no
[01:44] <edbian> Guest26422: Does this device (harddrive)? work if you plug it into the tv?  I mean, the FS isn't corrupted is it?
[01:44] <MK`> yes Sx2
[01:44] <Guest26422> edbian, no
[01:44] <MK`> Like, if I hold Z and X, I can press right but I can't press left.
[01:44] <MK`> pretty annoying for some games
[01:44] <Guest26422> edbian, no the fs is not corrupted
[01:45] <Sx2> MK`: Yeah, all laptops have a hardcoded key limit you can press at a time, it's usually 2
[01:45] <edbian> Guest26422: so it does work on the TV?
[01:45] <Guest26422> correct
[01:45] <Sx2> MK`: mine is 2 as well
[01:45] <MK`> Ah
[01:45] <edbian> Guest26422: I'm thinking it's encrypted.
[01:45] <MK`> Maybe that explains why the ctrl and shift keys sometimes don't register
[01:45] <MK`> I may be typing too quickly.
[01:46] <Sx2> Anyone know of possible problems with a recent network update to 10.10 meerkat
[01:46] <Guest26422> edbian, apparently from what i remember there is a guide of how to do it but i can find it on google
[01:46] <G_Val> i deleted splash man
[01:46] <edbian> Guest26422: give me a link
[01:47] <edbian> Guest26422: You could try mounting them with all the different options:  adfs,  affs,  autofs,  cifs,  coda,  coherent,  cramfs,
[01:47] <edbian>               debugfs, devpts, efs, ext, ext2, ext3, ext4, hfs, hfsplus, hpfs,
[01:47] <edbian>               iso9660, jfs, minix, msdos, ncpfs, nfs, nfs4, ntfs, proc,  qnx4,
[01:47] <edbian>               ramfs,  reiserfs,  romfs,  squashfs,  smbfs, sysv, tmpfs, ubifs,
[01:47] <edbian>               udf, ufs, umsdos, usbfs, vfat, xenix,  xfs,  xiafs.
[01:47] <Guest26422> edbian, like i said i was told that there was a guide but when i looked i couldn't find it
[01:47] <FloodBot3> edbian: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <rww> edbian: :\
[01:48] <edbian> rww: hahah, oops
[01:48] <Sx2> Anyone know of possible problems with a recent network update to 10.10 meerkat?
[01:49] <bowflex> Sx2, why do you ask? are you having problems because we can help you more if you tell us what the issue is
[01:49] <pdlnhrd> is there a way to blacklist a specific usb port obtained through lsusb instead of having to disable the entire usb_storage module???
[01:49] <Sx2> Yes me and my dad are having issues
[01:49] <Sx2> It's like, I can connect to an unsecure netowrk
[01:49] <edbian> Guest26422: who makes your dvr?  I'll try to search too
[01:49] <Guest26422> edbian, my pvr is a pace DC785D.
[01:49] <Sx2> But, when I try to connect to my primary home secure network nothing
[01:50] <Sx2> And in Windows I can connect to it
[01:51] <G_Val> I deleted quite and nosplash
[01:51] <edbian> Guest26422: Look at this: The format used for the pace series is now ext3..which is a native linux format.  The motorola pvrs use GPFS which is a commercial device file system from IBM.  Either way all the data is encoded for use with only the device that encodes the files.  So you cannot use any of the files on an external drive with any other device than the one that encodes the files. You see the pace ext3 files with a linux live cd but you ca
[01:51] <edbian> nnot play or rip them to your computer because of the copy protection.
[01:52] <Sx2> bowflex: I can't connect to my home's secure network, but I can connect to unsecure networks. And in Windows 7 I can connect to my secure network. This problem arose a few days ago after a network update in 10.10
[01:53] <pze7> help! the volume, brightness & other keys on my lucid machine just stopped working. xev sees nothing pressed
[01:53] <G_Val> I deleted quite and nosplash  """""""""""""""
[01:53] <nimii>  hey! ive treid to update my gd lib to a new one and now php dosent draw pictures. i have ubuntu 10.10
[01:54] <nimii> how can i fix that thing? :\
[01:54] <CorpSamich> Hey guys, I need some help installing my GT220 Nvidia drivers. From the terminal, what do I type in so I install the file that's on my desktop, and that it's also run as root.
[01:54] <lucidium> I'm having a problem installing the nvidia driver; it freezes at around 90%, and I have to hard reboot. When it reboots, the graphics are completely corrupted.
[01:55] <Guest26422> edbian, but still i should be able to mount it
[01:55] <edbian> Guest26422: I'm not sure.  I'll keep googling then :)
[01:56] <graingert> lucidium, maybe install nvidia-current from the command line? then enable it with jocky
[01:56] <graingert> if that doesn't work then you'll have to use the open source drivers
[01:56] <lucidium> graingert, how would I enable with jocky?
[01:56] <graingert> lucidium, after you install it, you'll be able to enable it with jocky
[01:57] <graingert> lucidium, use "jocky-gtk" and follow the HCI
[01:57] <lucidium> graingert, does jocky come with the distro or do I need to install it as well?
[01:57] <graingert> lucidium, presumably this is what you were using to install the nvidia drivers to begin with
[01:58] <KINGOFSWORDS> W: Failed to fetch http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/c/cairo-dock/cairo-dock_2.1.3-10-lucid-0ubuntu1_all.deb
[01:58] <lucidium> graingert, oh, it is the proprietary driver manager?
[01:58] <KINGOFSWORDS> is this cos i dont have universe set or something?
[01:58] <graingert> lucidium, indeed jimlad
[01:58] <lucidium> graingert, alright. thanks for the help.
[01:58] <graingert> KINGOFSWORDS, run sudo apt-get update
[01:59] <graingert> KINGOFSWORDS, then try again
[01:59] <edbian> Guest26422: All I'm seeing is stuff about how you need to dismantel it, connect the hdd physically using IDE or something, then use 'special software'  which is not listed (maybe cause it doesn't exist).  You cannot mount an unknown filesystem.
[01:59] <edbian> I think they went to great lengths to ensure you would not be able to rip the media off of it.  That doesn't mean it's impossible though.
[02:00] <pdlnhrd> does anyone know how to block a specific usb port but not all of them?
[02:01] <KINGOFSWORDS> hmm wierd ran ok 2nd time i tried..maybe i was surfing while dling
[02:01] <KINGOFSWORDS> thx graingert
[02:01] <Guest26422> edbian, i guess that i will have to mount with all fs types that i can think of
[02:01] <edbian> that's a good start
[02:02] <Guest26422> edbian, thanks anyways
[02:02] <zee313> how to change resolution of the screen?
[02:02] <graingert> pdlnhrd, put a usb device in it and then cut it off
[02:03] <graingert> zee313, what's your graphics cars?
[02:03] <graingert> zee313, card*
[02:03] <untitled_> hello
[02:03] <edbian> Guest26422: Yeah I can't help anymore :(
[02:03] <Sx2> I can't connect to my home's secure network, but I can connect to unsecure networks. And in Windows 7 I can connect to my secure network. This problem arose a few days ago after a network update in 10.10
[02:04] <pdlnhrd> graingert:  no i just want it disabled when booted into a specific OS of many that are installed
[02:04] <dima__> Hi, would anyone be able to help me launch a site on my local computer? I already installed apache, but have no experience configuring this stuff
[02:04] <niccos> Sx2: what kind of protection?
[02:04] <Sx2> niccos: WEP
[02:04] <zee313> I have not installed any graphics card this is Dell Optiplex 280, 3.4 GHz Processor, I GB RAM, 960 GB Hard Disk
[02:04] <niccos> hrm
[02:07] <xxthink_> what's the function of /proc/self/maps
[02:09] <graingert> pdlnhrd, why on earth would you want that?
[02:10] <Braber01_> um question...
[02:10] <Braber01_> how long does it take to get used to the JPN Kana keyboard layout?
[02:11] <Braber01_> because that's the only way I can type in Japanese on some websites even though it is only in Katakana...
[02:11] <Braber01_> sorry wong channel...
[02:12] <pdlnhrd> graingert: because I have an internal usb key built onto the motherboard that i don't want to have access to
[02:12] <graingert> pdlnhrd, ohkay, well take it out of fuse
[02:12] <guest_> hello :)
[02:13] <graingert> pdlnhrd, you can disable a disk mounting with fuse
[02:13] <pdlnhrd> graingert:  i was looking at maybe a udev rule but fuse might be easier
[02:14] <EmuAlert> I can't find any way to remove or rename any of the menu buttons (applications, places, system). How do I remove them other than removing it entirely from the panel?
[02:14] <graingert> pdlnhrd, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=693892
[02:14] <graingert> In case that response was not quite enough information, you would need to do something like:
[02:14] <graingert> - identify the name of the device that is being mounted. The 'mount' command in a terminal will do this for you.
[02:14] <graingert> - once you know the device's name, create an entry (or edit the existing entry if there is one) for it in /etc/fstab, using the command given by ferdostar above. In the area for options, have the word 'noauto' to prevent automounting.
[02:14] <graingert> See 'man mount' and 'man fstab' (in a terminal) for more detail.
[02:14] <FloodBot3> graingert: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:15] <richard_> how do i get a linksys wireless pc card to work?  i downloaded the drivers but it doesnt reconize anything under wireless networks
[02:15] <Riiick> alguem br ?
[02:15] <graingert> richard_, downloaded the drivers?
[02:15] <rww> !br | Riiick
[02:15] <rww> :(
[02:15] <graingert> richard_, what do you mean by that, from their website? (bad plan)
[02:15] <richard_> graingert: yes, under additional drivers
[02:16] <richard_> not from website
[02:16] <graingert> richard_, oh okay reboot?
[02:16] <richard_> graingert: i did
[02:16] <graingert> richard_, does it show the card in ifconfig?
[02:16] <graingert> right I'm off does someone else want to help richard_
[02:16] <richard_> graingert: where is that?
[02:17] <graingert> richard_, which ifconfig will tell you where that is
[02:17] <guest_> niters graingert
[02:18] <graingert> richard_, /sbin/ifconfig
[02:18] <richard_> i ran ifconfig and i dont know what to look for
[02:18] <graingert> richard_, pastebin
[02:19] <richard_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/591939/
[02:20] <graingert> richard_, okay it's not there
[02:21] <graingert> richard_, looks like that card is dead
[02:21] <richard_> graingert: what do you mean?
[02:21] <graingert> richard_, give it a low rating on the ubuntu hardware database
[02:21] <graingert> richard_, dead as in won't work in ubuntu
[02:22]  * guest_ trixie
[02:22] <richard_> graingert: bo work arounds?
[02:22] <graingert> richard_, yeah ndiswrapper
[02:22] <graingert> richard_, but I can't see that working too well
[02:23] <mbcarpe09> hey
[02:23] <b3rz3rk3r_> hi guys, iv just installed Kubuntu and iv managed to figure out how to get redshift running, but i cant find how to set it to run on boot, can anyone help me with this?
[02:23] <dima__> How do I open a read only text file in ubuntu?
[02:23] <edbian> dima__: you double click it?
[02:23] <aeon-ltd> dima__: using a editor?
[02:23] <richard_> graingert: ok thanks ill check it out
[02:23] <dima__> Sorry, how do I edit a read only file?
[02:23] <mbcarpe09> Aaron
[02:24] <edbian> dima__: You make it writeable for your user :)
[02:24] <mbcarpe09> Aaron!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[02:24] <aeon-ltd> dima__: change its owner
[02:24] <mbcarpe09> WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDEEEEEEEEN!!!!!!!!!
[02:24] <mbcarpe09> Where are you!!!!
[02:25] <dima__> for some reason I am not the owner, how do I change permissions?
[02:25] <dima__> I right clicked and looked at properties, but everything is greyed out
[02:25] <skutr3> hey is something wrong with the download link for the natty beta?
[02:25] <edbian> dima__: using sudo chown <fileName>
[02:26] <edbian> dima__: Yeah, since you don't have permissions to write it you don't have permissions to change the permissions.  (hence using sudo)
[02:26] <skutr3> firefox and IE are having trouble loading it
[02:26] <edbian> dima__: You could also 'gksudo nautilus .' and browse to the file and edit it using the root instance of nautilus.
[02:27] <skutr3> anyone?
[02:27] <naryfa> hey, anybody knows any alternatives to conky?
[02:27] <folorn> brb
[02:27] <folorn> im gonna try booting to a regular user this shits getting old
[02:28] <dima__> nautilus made it a lot easier, thank you
[02:28] <skutr3> anyone know what's wrong with the natty beta download link?
[02:28] <dima__> Im trying to set up an apache server and I cant even open the config files, linux is not easy I must say.
[02:29] <edbian> dima__: NO problem :)
[02:30] <edbian> dima__: It's just new :)  You'll get the hang of it.  If you wanna edit a file you don't normally have permissions for do this: gksudo gedit /path/to/file   It's not a good idea to change the permissions of the apache files you need to change
[02:30] <dima__> Makes sense
[02:30] <demonspork> I have a realtek ALC889 onboard my motherboard and I am having trouble with using the optical output. I can´t get it to work at all, even trying to manually specify that it should be used with aplay -D
[02:30] <Some_Person> I need a good torrent client that saves correctly to network drives!
[02:31] <demonspork> Some_Person, try Deluge, it is pretty much better at everything. It probably even does that correctly
[02:32] <smw> Some_Person, my favorite torrent program is rtorrent. I am not sure what you are looking for though.
[02:32] <Some_Person> smw: I'm not ready for that
[02:33] <smw> Some_Person, lol. What do you mean not ready?
[02:33] <Some_Person> I'd rather use something with a nice GUI
[02:33] <edbian> Some_Person: transmission is great
[02:33] <demonspork> Some_Person, Deluge has command line, GUI, web GUI and it can run as a daemon
[02:33] <Some_Person> edbian: If you like "Error: Input/Output Error" it is
[02:33] <edbian> I never get those
[02:33] <edbian> :)
[02:33] <smw> demonspork, really? Interesting :-)
[02:33] <Some_Person> edbian: Then you never save to network drives
[02:34] <aeon-ltd> Some_Person: why may i ask? if you're torrenting 98% of the time its going to be in the background
[02:34] <edbian> apparently not! :D
[02:34] <smw> demonspork, I have been wanting rtorrent to make a daemon version for ages.
[02:35] <lament> what's the command-line equivalent of double-clicking on a file in Nautilus?
[02:35] <smw> demonspork, they already have the client server part made. All they need to do is make it fork to background and stuff.
[02:35] <xust-droid2> default vga settings for ubuntu server, 10.10?
[02:35] <demonspork> smw, I only decided to use it like 3 days ago and it is amazing.  Itś webgui is so powerful that it can dynamically change the download location when you tell it to - it handles moving the files and starting it again from the new location and everything.
[02:36] <demonspork> just by right clicking on the torrent and setting a new download location
[02:36] <fibres> Hi guys
[02:36] <smw> demonspork, interesting. I will look into it.
[02:36] <smw> demonspork, but I would need to import all my torrents again :-P.
[02:37] <pkh> I have a laptop with a dead network socket -- anyone know what I should buy to get access to a wired network?  (ebay has little usb<->rj45 plugs but I'm skeptical that they will work)
[02:37] <demonspork> pkh, they work
[02:37] <pkh> awesome, thanks
[02:38] <bc81> hi.  i'm trying to play this (i'm assuming flash) video, but the screen is white in both firefox and chrome/ium; can anyone confirm if it's working or not?  http://www.bobsredmill.com/video-mill-tour.html  youtube and the like works ok
[02:38] <edbian> bc81: It's flash.  It's a video.  It's horribly bloated
[02:38] <smw> !flash | bc81
[02:38] <fibres> I am trying to install kubuntu on one of my pcs. Its a core2 quad with a nvidia card. It shows the mythbuntu screen with the 5 dots below, then after a min or so I get a screen with millions of grey and black lines and thats it.
[02:38] <edbian> bc81: It works on my Debian system :)
[02:39] <smw> bc81, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[02:39] <nimii> hey, my mysql faills to start, it says start: Job failed to start
[02:39] <bc81> smw: thanks, i will try this
[02:39] <bob__> Is there any way I can rename 'New Volume' (sdb1) - I can unmount it if necessary
[02:39] <smw> bc81, don't forget to completely restart firefox/chrome
[02:39] <smw> bc81, no window can be open
[02:39] <EmuAlert> I can't get crontab to work at all. It should run the command 'firefox google.com' every minute but instead outputs this into /var/log/syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/591945/
[02:39] <bc81> smw: ok
[02:40] <smw> EmuAlert, the cron job probably does not have access to X...
[02:40] <smw> EmuAlert, you need to first export the display. Even then, I am not sure if it will work.
[02:40] <demonspork> EmuAlert, what are you trying to do because crontab can access X unless the program you are calling will hook up with another process that is in X already
[02:41] <demonspork> can´t
[02:41] <smw> demonspork, well, he can still manually set the display and it will probably work.
[02:41] <demonspork> ah
[02:41] <demonspork> k
[02:42] <naryfa> hey, anybody knows any alternatives to conky?
[02:42] <hihihi1222> hi
[02:42] <Some_Person> And Deluge is giving me "Error"
[02:43] <demonspork> Some_Person, what command are you trying to run and what did you do to install Deluge
[02:43] <demonspork> oh
[02:43] <demonspork> error with the network files
[02:43] <EmuAlert> smw: So I should do something like 'firefox google.com -fullscreen'? Just running this stuff from the terminal works fine, I don't understand why it would be any different through crontab
[02:44] <Some_Person> What the heck is it with Linux, networks, and torrents?
[02:44] <smw> EmuAlert, the issue is that the display is not set in the env
[02:44] <smw> EmuAlert, export DISPLAY=':0' before running the cmd
[02:44] <demonspork> EmuAlert, if you are running it from the terminal it is already inside of X (the display things)  but if crontab is launching it then it is outside of that environment.
[02:45] <witeshark> is the software center for FF 4 working rightly now?
[02:45] <FlameTai1> K guyz
[02:46] <smw> demonspork, http://torrent-clients.findthebest.com/compare/18-33/Deluge-vs-rTorrent
[02:46] <FlameTai1> I need a bit of help with a problem I had awhile ago, I have a Nvidia 8400 GS PCI card, and I can't get my Compiz effects to enable due to it, does anyone have the solution still on here?
[02:47] <demonspork> FlameTai1, have you installed and enable the Nvidia drivers?
[02:47] <wujie> hi
[02:47] <xust-droid2> ubuntu server doesn't have a GUI?
[02:47] <wujie> I HAVE
[02:47] <edbian> xust-droid2: nope
[02:47] <EmuAlert> So would the crontab entry work with "DISPLAY=':0' && firefox google.com"? For more than testing, though, I'll probably put these all in a bash script
[02:47] <smw> demonspork, run env | grep DISPLAY in a terminal. That is why x programs launch in terminal
[02:47] <demonspork> xust-droid2, not by default. Most linux server implementations are headless
[02:47] <smw> xust-droid2, that is what separates server from desktop
[02:48] <wujie> NVIDIA driver
[02:49] <xust-droid2> well i'd like a lamp server with a gui...is this even possible without windows?
[02:49] <edbian> xust-droid2: yes!  install the gui on ubuntu-server if you must.  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[02:49] <wujie> 1.download driver to NVIDIA
[02:49] <wujie> 2.sudo apt-get purge nvidia*
[02:49] <Logan_> !enter | wujie
[02:50] <wujie> blacklist.conf：sudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[02:50] <smw> xust-droid2, I do not believe lamp is possible on windows :-P. However you can install a gui on linux as edbian said.
[02:50] <edbian> smw: LAMP is be definition not windows :)
[02:50] <sacarlson> xust-droid2: what do you want to control in the gui?  we have phpmyadmin
[02:50] <wujie> END TO:Blacklist vga16f
[02:50] <edbian> is by* definition
[02:50] <wujie>   Blacklist nouveau
[02:50] <wujie>   Blacklist rivafb
[02:50] <wujie>   Blacklist nvidiafb
[02:50] <wujie>   Blacklist rivatv
[02:50] <FloodBot3> wujie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:50] <demonspork> well, the L in LAMP is Linux, but the AMP part can all be done
[02:50] <smw> edbian, exactly ;-)
[02:50] <wujie> Ctrl+Alt+F1
[02:50] <wujie> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[02:50] <demonspork> wujek, please either pastebin these instructions ore put them in fewer lines
[02:51] <bc81> smw: thanks, all flash problems are now solved :-)
[02:51] <xust-droid2> I can't do anything with ubuntu server becuase the monitor i'm using doesn't support the resolution it's trying to use at the prompt
[02:51] <wujie> cd /
[02:51] <smw> bc81, you are welcome
[02:51] <wujie> sudo sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86-256.44.run
[02:51] <jamesklyne> hello!
[02:51] <wujie> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[02:51] <Unearthly> Hi, I'm trying to install from the ubuntu minimal CD. It's failing to detect my hard drive. How do I figure out what driver I need?
[02:51] <demonspork> wujie, please stop pressing enter and put this all in one line or pastebin the instructions, you are basically spamming the channel
[02:51] <xust-droid2> maybe your motherboard is running the HDD in AHCI/RAID mode?
[02:52] <Unearthly> I am fairly sure it is running in IDE mode.
[02:52] <smw> xust-droid2, you can change the resolution at runtime
[02:52] <wujie> 我对洋文不懂
[02:52] <edbian> Unearthly: Boot the live CD.  Does the drive show up in sudo fdisk -l ?
[02:52] <smw> xust-droid2, it is installed or are you trying to install it?
[02:52] <xust-droid2> Just the basic ubuntu server.
[02:53] <smw> xust-droid2, you did not answer my question.
[02:53] <xust-droid2> I can't even log in. After it POSTs, my monitor shuts off, lol.
[02:53] <rww> wujie: /join #ubuntu-cn for Chinese. If you can't understand basic netiquette instructions, that is perhaps a good idea.
[02:53] <Unearthly> I can install ubuntu server. The problem was that it installs things I didn't want and uninstalling them didn't go so well.
[02:53] <smw> xust-droid2, so you already installed.
[02:53] <edbian> xust-droid2: That's not right.  Can you press shift and get to the grub menu?  (you should be able to log in cli mode)
[02:53] <Unearthly> So I was trying to go for ubuntu minimal, from what I understood I'd have better control over what was installed.
[02:53] <wujie> ok
[02:53] <melkor> If I install gnome 3 will I still be able to select gnome2 from the login screen?
[02:54] <smw> Unearthly, what does server install that you don't want?
[02:54] <wujie> 谁要NVIDIA 显卡完整教程的
[02:54] <Unearthly> eucalyptus and apache2 were the main ones
[02:54] <smw> !cn | wujie
[02:55] <Unearthly> I removed all of their packages with apt and then I started getting errors trying to shutdown.
[02:55] <Unearthly> I still have it installed, I can check what the exact errors are
[02:55] <smw> Unearthly, I do not think it installs apache by default.
[02:56] <wujie> ubottu，讲中文，嘻嘻
[02:57] <Freeaqingme> wujek, ubottu = robot
[02:57] <Unearthly> smw: Well, I did ps -ef and saw apache2 running
[02:57] <Freeaqingme> wujie, ubottu = robot
[02:57] <Unearthly> I'm not sure if it was part of another package
[02:57] <Unearthly> The error I get seems to be related to DHCP, I'm having trouble catching the error though.
[02:57] <smw> Unearthly, did it give you the option to install it?
[02:58] <edbian> Unearthly: shift + page up
[02:58] <jamesklyne> garrr! all these messages come into me in empathy in double :(
[02:58] <naryfa> hey, what are those desktop things called, like a clock, weather etc???
[02:58] <edbian> naryfa: widgets (screenlets)
[02:58] <jamesklyne> even my own 8O
[02:58] <naryfa> edbian: danke schon
[02:58] <edbian> naryfa: thank you in german?
[02:59] <naryfa> edbian: yeah lol
[02:59] <wujie> 机器人？
[02:59] <naryfa> ð¶¶¶¶
[02:59] <naryfa> oh it shows
[02:59] <Riiick> alguem br ?
[02:59] <naryfa> nice
[02:59] <FloodBot3> naryfa: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:59] <naryfa> I'm not flooding, stop it.
[03:00] <edbian> naryfa: bienvenida
[03:00] <rww> wujie: #ubuntu is English-language only, thanks.
[03:00] <wujie> ok
[03:01] <Cobra36093> Hi
[03:01] <rizanoar> is possible to running KDE app in GNOME desktop?
[03:01] <Ben64> rizanoar: yes
[03:01] <Unearthly> smw: I don't believe so, but my monitor for the server isn't so great at reading the text so I may have done it by accident. However, now that I realized the error was DHCP, I was able to remove that to resolve that problem :)
[03:01] <wujie> What are the foreigners to understand Chinese？HAHA
[03:01] <Pici> !zh | wujie
[03:01] <Unearthly> I still have one more, which says vblade. I don't think I need this either, so I'll try uninstalling it.
[03:02] <wujie> There is no Why？
[03:03] <wujie> Like the foreigners speak Chinese, friendly
[03:04] <dsjackins> I'm trying to get Age of Empires 2 the Conquerors working on wine but when i run it I get a bunch of error messages - http://pastebin.com/zi7Efc5j   The game opens fine but when I try to start a match it freezes up
[03:04] <rizanoar> i want record radio stream what application i need to do this....?
[03:04] <jamesklyne> anyone experience this in empathy: https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_en_S6JwItgo/TaEQBcplm_I/AAAAAAAAATo/tSUR-TAGjfk/s800/Screenshot.png
[03:04] <Unearthly> Ok, it's still encountering an error when I try to shutdown but I cannot read it before it goes to the recovery menu.
[03:05] <Unearthly> How do I get to that text? It doesn't seem to be recorded in the syslog
[03:05] <Some_Person> Does anyone know of any Linux torrent client that works correctly with SMB?!?!
[03:05] <smw> Some_Person, torrent clients are not made to work with SMB
[03:05] <wujie> Play StarCraft 2, hee hee
[03:06] <smw> Some_Person, you can mount it as a folder, but that is it.
[03:06] <rizanoar> https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/_en_S6JwItgo/TaEQBcplm_I/AAAAAAAAATo/tSUR-TAGjfk/s800/Screenshot.png
[03:06] <Some_Person> smw: And I'm getting errors on every one so far
[03:07] <smw> Some_Person, most people do not run torrent over SMB :-\
[03:07] <naryfa> torrent over samba?
[03:07] <naryfa> lol
[03:07] <Some_Person> It makes sense in my case
[03:07] <Some_Person> I have a 1.5 TB drive connected to our HTPC
[03:08] <wujie> lol very good game, that China has not, despise
[03:08] <smw> Some_Person, why not run it on the HTPC?
[03:09] <Some_Person> smw: Because people use it to watch TV
[03:09] <naryfa> I'll be back, this is interesting conversation.
[03:09] <smw> Some_Person, and you can't run torrents on it because?
[03:09] <naryfa> Stay tuned.
[03:09] <naryfa> lol
[03:09] <Some_Person> smw: I'd interrupt the TV
[03:09] <wujie> Where you are now, day or night？
[03:09] <whiteside> Hi folks... i need help with ettercap,...i want to update the the link is not good so i need to add a link via svn...but i dont know the link ..if someone can help me it would be great..thx all
[03:09] <smw> Some_Person, how would that interrupt the tv?
[03:10] <demonspork> Some_Person, use a client with a web interface so you can manage the torrents remotely rather than having to sign into that machine.
[03:10] <dsjackins> I'm trying to get Age of Empires 2 the Conquerors working on wine but when i run it I get a bunch of error messages - http://pastebin.com/zi7Efc5j   The game opens fine but when I try to start a match it freezes up
[03:10] <Some_Person> smw: Because I would have to close Windows Media Center to start/check the torrent
[03:10] <demonspork> dsjackins, check out #winehq
[03:11] <smw> Some_Person, deluge I just found out has a web interface
[03:11] <wujie> I was a rookie, you bear with me，hee
[03:11] <demonspork> Some_Person, Deluge, Utorrent both have good web interfaces, Deluge is the most feature full web interface
[03:11] <Some_Person> Huh, I didn't think of that
[03:11] <Disturbed1> Hello
[03:12] <chubb16> ubuntu or xubuntu? with unity the default desktop enviroment who is gonna switch to xubuntu?
[03:12] <demonspork> Some_Person, Deluge allows you to choose where each torrent is downloaded as you start it from the web interface. utorrent will only allow you to download to the default download location
[03:12] <wujie> My grammar is very poor, and the fault of Google
[03:12] <Some_Person> demonspork: Then it looks like I'll be switching to Deluge :-)
[03:12] <bonny> how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal
[03:12] <edbian> chubb16: I'm gonna keep using Debian :)
[03:13] <chubb16> hehehe
[03:13] <whiteside> Hi folks... i need help with ettercap,...i want to update the the link is not good so i need to add a link via svn...but i dont know the link ..if someone can type ettercap -U and give me the right link...thx
[03:13] <bonny> how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal
[03:13] <Some_Person> demonspork: Can Deluge pick up where an incomplete Transmission download over samba left off?
[03:13] <bonny> how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal
[03:13] <Pici> wujie: #ubuntu is for support only. If you want to chat, you can use #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:14] <gunndawg> Could someone help me set up a USB KVM switch to work with my ubuntu laptop and my winxp desktop?
[03:14] <bonny> how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal
[03:14] <wujie> ubuntu11.04   use unity
[03:14] <yuanye> usb
[03:14] <Ben64> gunndawg: thats not really an ubuntu support question, and kvm switches don't normally need to be "set up"
[03:15] <gunndawg> Ben64 well ubuntu is making my primary monitor to act as a second monitor
[03:15] <Some_Person> gunndawg: KVM switches (if they're not made by idiots) don't require drivers or anything. Just hook up the switch to each machine as if there was no switch, connect your monitor, keyboard, and mouse to the switch, and it'll just work
[03:15] <bonny> how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal
[03:15] <yuanye> xp  on virtualbox   usb isnot avaliable
[03:15] <gunndawg> so instead of showing my main workspace, its showing just a blank workspace
[03:15] <gunndawg> as though its just a 2nd monitor to ubuntu
[03:15] <Ben64> bonny: repeating is just going to annoy people
[03:15] <bonny> well they will catch attention right?
[03:16] <nit-wit> yuanye, you using the puel from oracle
[03:16] <Ben64> they will ignore you
[03:16] <wujie> What can be installed GNOME3 ubuntu11.04？
[03:16] <Some_Person> gunndawg: And you only have one monitor connected?
[03:16] <bonny> how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wo
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[03:16] <FloodBot3> bonny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:16] <edbian> wow
[03:16] <gunndawg> Some_Person, yeah it was an easy setup however when I switch to my laptop(ubuntu) my laptop screen stays the same and my primary monitor that it should be using just acts as a second monitor to ubuntu, blank workspace but still shows the top panel
[03:16] <Ben64> thanks
[03:16] <whiteside> Can someone type {ettercap -U} into a ubuntu shell and give me the good update link for ettercap please..thx
[03:16] <rolandixor> bonny you keep that up and everyone will //ignore you
[03:17] <edbian> rolandixor: That's a thing?
[03:17] <edbian> /ignore bonny
[03:17] <gunndawg> Some_Person, yes just 1 monitor, unless you count the laptop monitor, would that cause an issue ?
[03:17] <Some_Person> gunndawg: Ah, it's a laptop. Go to System -> Preferences -> Monitor and enable "Same image on all monitors"
[03:17] <demonspork> Some_Person, most likely. a lot of clients can pick up partially completed torrents from other clients
[03:17] <gunndawg> Some_Person, let me try that
[03:17] <rizanoar> hello all, how to record online radio stream, thk's
[03:17] <bonny> how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wo
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[03:17] <Some_Person> gunndawg: The built-in display counts as a separate display
[03:17] <FloodBot3> bonny: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <bonny>  would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfenstein enemy territory on lx terminal how would i install wolfe
[03:17] <Ben64> ugh
[03:17] <Guest84497> kill
[03:17] <rolandixor> @rizanoar use rhythmbox and the streamrecorder
[03:18] <dzjitaru> Hi, My network manager (under ubuntu) crashs sometimes, how do I reinstall it or install a better other one?
[03:18] <bonny> answer me
[03:18] <Ben64> bonny: flooding really is not the way to get answers
[03:18] <wujie> Што можа быць усталяваны GNOME3 ubuntu11.04？
[03:18] <rolandixor> bonny go to askubuntu.com
[03:18] <edbian> Can an op please kick him?
[03:18] <rolandixor> and shut up :)
[03:18] <rizanoar> it can record in seperate file?
[03:18] <rolandixor> yes
[03:18] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: Can you explain how it "crash[e]s"?
[03:18] <bonny> (finger)
[03:18] <gunndawg> Some_Person, thx, got it workin, would I be able to close my laptop now and keep this working ?
[03:18] <rolandixor> pinky?
[03:19] <rizanoar> thks @rolandixor
[03:19] <Some_Person> gunndawg: of course
[03:19] <rolandixor> np @rizanoar
[03:19] <oden> hello
[03:19] <rww> bonny: I don't recommend doing that again.
[03:19] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, I lose connection and I need to disconnect and connect again to the network i was using
[03:19] <bonny> doin wat>
[03:19] <rolandixor> spamming, maybe?
[03:19] <rww> bonny: spamming the channel with your question repeatedly.
[03:19] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: Is it wifi by any chance?
[03:19] <bonny> lol stop freking out
[03:19] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, yes a wifi
[03:19] <rolandixor> if you have a question to ask try askubuntu.com
[03:20] <rolandixor> it's easy to sign up and we can walk through it with you
[03:20] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: If it's stable on ethernet, then it's probably your wifi driver. What card do you have?
[03:20] <rolandixor> but if you misbehave the mods will get you
[03:20] <naryfa> This place will soon answer questions about rules lol. Don't do that, don't do that.....
[03:20] <Ben64> bonny: if you notice, there are 1457 people here, you can't get someone to attend to your every need
[03:21] <rww> naryfa: I don't feel that "Don't fill the channel by repeating your question over and over" is an unreasonable rule.
[03:21] <vox> what rww said.
[03:21] <rolandixor> rww that is a reasonable rule
[03:21] <rizanoar> what is difference between wine and PlayonLinux is?
[03:21] <naryfa> rww: me neither, I just observe that every time I enter there's someone reprimended lol
[03:21] <rolandixor> the rule is reasonable if you keep spamming it in one message
[03:21] <bonny> fags
[03:21] <Ben64> rizanoar: fairly sure playonlinux uses wine
[03:22] <Guest84497> where is that cache when playing on youtube? Suddenly hidden?
[03:22] <vox> heh
[03:22] <dsnyders> Hi all!  My laptop has a "Press F11 to boot a diagnostics partition".  I would like to use that to dual boot instead of going through grub.  Has anyone done that before?
[03:22] <rww> rizanoar: PlayOnLinux is a GUI for WINE, basically.
[03:22] <rolandixor> rizanoar playonlinux is a tool to make wine easy to manage
[03:22] <rolandixor> bonny calling us fags isn't very friendly either
[03:22] <Ben64> dsnyders: probably not possible
[03:22] <rizanoar> ooh
[03:22] <rolandixor> not quite sure you're gonna get help like that :)
[03:22] <rww> rolandixor: they exited the channel already :)
[03:22] <rolandixor> oh I missed that
[03:23] <edbian> thankfully
[03:23] <Guest84497> wips borte!
[03:23] <rolandixor> thanks rww
[03:23] <dsnyders> Ben64, Why do you say that?
[03:23] <Ben64> dsnyders: its designed to boot a special system to reinstall the main OS. not to give you choices on which OS to boot
[03:23] <edbian> dsnyders: The bios sends things to the bootloader of the device of your choosing.  It is not capable of booting the OS for some reason or windows and linux would be doing that
[03:24] <Ben64> why not just use grub?
[03:24] <naryfa> I ran into a little problem, all of the themes in appearance prefs suddenly have no thumbnails. Everything is X, they work but you don't know what you're choosing. Anybody knows how to correct that?
[03:24] <rolandixor> naryfa did you install a theme recently?
[03:24] <demonspork> I have a realtek ALC889 onboard my motherboard and I am having trouble with using the optical output. I can´t get it to work at all, even trying to manually specify that it should be used with aplay -D. No errors from aplay -D just silence
[03:24] <rolandixor> quite likely one of your themes is broken
[03:24] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, would you please remind me which command to use to display all devices so i'll tell you which card it is
[03:25] <skooz2011> I click on places then home folder and shotwell opens does that with all folders
[03:25] <edbian> dziadu: sudo lspci -k
[03:25] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: lspci
[03:25] <naryfa> rolandixor: nope
[03:25] <rolandixor> that usually happens only when you have a broken theme
[03:25] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, edbian, thanks!
[03:25] <edbian> dzjitaru: yep
[03:25] <rolandixor> did you leave it for a while to see if it is still loading themes?
[03:25] <gunndawg> Some_Person, how do I make it so when I close the lid/screen on my laptop it doesnt log out/hibernate, etc ?
[03:26] <naryfa> rolandixor: yes sir
[03:26] <rolandixor> naryfa: do you know how to use a terminal?
[03:26] <swatto> Hey all, whats the command to load an application from terminal but leave it running when you close the terminal window
[03:26] <Some_Person> gunndawg: System -> Preferences -> Power Management. Change "When laptop lid is closed" to "Blank screen" on both tabs
[03:26] <Ben64> gunndawg: preferences -> power management
[03:26] <naryfa> I mean not the themes, the customize things... like Controls, Window Borders, Icons
[03:26] <naryfa> rolandixor: ofc, why
[03:26] <Ben64> swatto: put an & at the end of the command
[03:27] <rolandixor> try running "gnome-appearance-properties" in a terminal and seeing if it gives you useful output that could lead to a solution
[03:27] <swatto> Thanks Ben64 - do i not have to use nohup
[03:27] <gunndawg> Some_Person, Ben64 thanks!
[03:27] <smw> swatto, prefix the command with nohup and append &> /dev/null &
[03:28] <rolandixor> naryfa if you downloaded something from gnome-look or a similar site recently it could be that
[03:28] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, for Ethernet controller it says:  Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme BCM5764M Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
[03:28] <Ben64> don't need nohup
[03:28] <naryfa> rolandixor: that's the only thing I get: (gnome-appearance-properties:1905): Gdk-CRITICAL **: gdk_display_sync: assertion `GDK_IS_DISPLAY (display)' failed
[03:28] <rolandixor> it would show up under "customize" - that is what I was referring to
[03:28] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: But that's not what's failing. What's your WLAN device?
[03:28] <rolandixor> hmm
[03:28] <gunndawg> Some_Person, I might be digging a bit deep here, but now that I have that working. is there anyway to have my primary monitor display ubuntu in a diff resolution ?
[03:28] <smw> Ben64, I believe you do need nohub
[03:28] <rolandixor> does it still do that when you restart @naryfa?
[03:29] <naryfa> rolandixor: yes
[03:29] <gunndawg> Some_Person, because on my laptop where ubuntu is installed its set up for a laptop resolution, can I have it be 1280 x 1024 since I am now viewing it from my desktop monitor ?
[03:29] <Ben64> smw: nope, i just tried
[03:29] <rolandixor> well tell you what, hop over to askubuntu.com and see if someone can help you there ^^
[03:29] <Some_Person> gunndawg: No. If you mirror screens, you have to have the resolution the same on both monitors. How the heck could it draw the same thing in two resolutions?
[03:29] <naryfa> rolandixor: ok, thanks.
[03:29] <gunndawg> Some_Person, eh good point, sorry, heh
[03:29] <rolandixor> I'm active there too so I will try to follow up on your problem
[03:29] <smw> Ben64, I just tested it right now
[03:30] <smw> Ben64, it did not work without nohup
[03:30] <smw> Ben64, test it again
[03:30] <Ben64> smw: how are you closing terminal?
[03:30] <smw> with the X button
[03:30] <smw> why?
[03:30] <Ben64> oh. i use CTRL+D
[03:30] <witeshark> does anyone know if the stray typos are removes for the firefox repository commands as shown on this page? http://www.webupd8.org/2011/03/install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-1004-1010.html
[03:30] <smw> Ben64, ah. typing exit works.
[03:30] <smw> Ben64, learn something new every day :-)
[03:30] <Ben64> smw: so we're both right :P
[03:31] <Some_Person> gunndawg: If the laptop mirror also supports your desktop monitor's resolution, you can use that. Or you can make the desktop monitor the primary monitor and the laptop one secondary
[03:31] <smw> Ben64, so I guess bash kills it when it gets a kill signal.
[03:31] <naryfa> rolandixor: there's no such channel
[03:31] <smw> Ben64, but if it stops of its own volition, it does not kill the process.
[03:32] <Ben64> i tend to use keyboard way more than mouse, so i never exit from the X
[03:32] <rolandixor> naryfa it's not a channel
[03:32] <rolandixor> it's a website
[03:32] <rolandixor> http://askubuntu.com
[03:33] <smw> Ben64, makes sense. I normally exit from the X because I consider it a window function which is always done with a mouse :-P
[03:33] <naryfa> rolandixor: lol
[03:33] <smw> Ben64, But I don't like to use the mouse either :-P
[03:33] <rolandixor> haha I didn't know you tried to go to a channel :D
[03:33] <Ben64> i love terminal
[03:33] <piero> Hi! Can I trust in gnome3-team ppa security?
[03:33] <Ben64> don't like using windows cause it's command line is terrible
[03:33] <rolandixor> piero yes
[03:33] <rolandixor> gasp!
[03:33] <edbian> Ben64: :D
[03:33] <rolandixor> Ben64 said the W word!
[03:34] <rolandixor> ban him D:!
[03:34] <Ben64> uh oh
[03:34] <rolandixor> lol
[03:34] <smw> Ben64, that is why I use linux.
[03:34] <Ben64> plus, ubuntu is awesome
[03:34] <Some_Person> I remember when Macintosh had no command line
[03:34] <rolandixor> you have been redeemed :D
[03:34] <Ben64> i've ran it since edgy eft
[03:34] <Ben64> never had to format drive and reinstall
[03:34] <naryfa> rolandixor: Something is wrong really because even starting appearance prefs eats up 3rd processor core at 100%
[03:35] <piero> rolandixor, Do you know who build those packages?
[03:35] <rolandixor> piero - not personally :P - but I know some of the people responsible - they are ubuntu developers
[03:35] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, back got deconnected again :/ so for WLAN it's: Atheros Communications Inc. AR928X Wireless Network Adapter
[03:35] <rolandixor> naryfa don't try to start it again - there must be a broken theme or engine
[03:35] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: Ah, well I don't know anything about atheros
[03:35] <skooz2011> when I click places then the home folder or any folder under places shotwell opens
[03:36] <rolandixor> have you managed to get on to askubuntu.com?
[03:36] <naryfa> rolandixor: the process doesn't die when I close appearance prefs
[03:36] <piero> cool, thanks rolandixor !
[03:36] <naryfa> rolandixor: I have to kill it
[03:36] <naryfa> rolandixor: I think you're right
[03:36] <Xylch> What exactly are backports and do you recommend I install them?
[03:36] <rolandixor> yeah I am - cause I had that problem once :P
[03:36] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: But take a look in System -> Administration -> Restricted Drivers (or whatever they're calling that thing these days)
[03:36] <dzjitaru> Some_Person,  ok no problem :)
[03:37] <naryfa> rolandixor: and how did you correct it
[03:37] <rolandixor> do you have a qt theme in the list? like qt-curve?
[03:37] <dzjitaru> Some_Person,  ok will do!
[03:37] <smw> Xylch, backports are upgrades.
[03:37] <rizanoar> wew, i learn something new, when i'm stay here,,,thanks
[03:37] <rolandixor> I had to delete the theme
[03:37] <rolandixor> when I found it which one it was @naryfa
[03:37] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: See if there's a different driver available for your card
[03:38] <smw> XLV, backports allow you to have some of the newest versions of packages without waiting for the next release.
[03:38] <naryfa> rolandixor: how did you find it??? trial and error?
[03:38] <smw> Xylch, ^
[03:38] <smw> Xylch, I use them on desktops.
[03:38] <Xylch> So, updating them would be good.
[03:39] <softu> I'm using Texmaker on 10.10.  I was just using it on a Windows-based public computer and I could see three panes with a built-in live PDF preview.  Seems like the Linux version doesn't display output in the pane?  When i use it it launches Evince separately.  I'd like three panes for live editing.  Anyone using Texmaker?
[03:39] <rolandixor> naryfa someone on the ubuntuforums site was able to find out which theme was the offending one and told me which one to remove
[03:39] <naryfa> rolandixor: ok, thanks man
[03:39] <rolandixor> so usually it involves listing the themes you have (it is often the last one you installed) and removing the offending theme
[03:40] <parapara> foo
[03:40] <rolandixor> naryfa np
[03:41] <rbridgew> .
[03:41] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, weird it says no driver is installed for this system, plus i'm seeing now as an allert in the menu bar saying "report unexpected error in kernel"
[03:42] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, will restart the pc
[03:42] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: The first message is normal: It means you're not using any _proprietary_ drivers
[03:43] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, and how I handle the first message? or how can I use those drivers
[03:43] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: What do you have listed in there?
[03:44] <dzjitaru> in Administration>Drivers and periphericals > I have nothing listed, just the message: no driver is used ..etc
[03:45] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: Hmm, then I'd ask someone else about your problem then
[03:45] <Newbius> Hi guys
[03:45] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: Sorry I couldn't help you -- I don't know atheros
[03:46] <dzjitaru> Some_Person, ok thanks alot :) and its ok you're already trying to help me and it kind of you :)
[03:46] <ajin> hello
[03:46] <ajin> ubuntu11.04 is a disaster, what do you say
[03:47] <xangua> !natty | ajin
[03:47] <Some_Person> ajin: Are you actually using it?
[03:48] <ajin> Some_Person: unity lost nearly half of gnome shell functions
[03:48] <Some_Person> ajin: You didn't answer my question
[03:49] <smw> ajin, for example? What did it lose?
[03:49] <smw> ajin, also, are you actually using it or just reading about it?
[03:49] <ajin> i read about it
[03:49] <rizanoar> unity is partially awesome
[03:49] <bazhang> the natty support channel is in #ubuntu+1 ajin
[03:49] <Some_Person> ajin: Then I say you aren't really entitled to an opinion
[03:49] <rww> discussion and support channel
[03:50] <bazhang> Some_Person, lets move on
[03:50] <Some_Person> bazhang: Agreed
[03:50] <chrispluns> is there a dump of the wiki? I'd like a local version
[03:50] <Xylch> smw: Are the proposed updates okay as well? Just wanna make sure I don't mess up my system (but I am a stickler for being up-to-date)
[03:50] <dzjitaru> one more question: anyone knows a lightweight distribution of linux as arch linux but which is more simple to install as ubuntu? (i'm still not good enough in command line)
[03:50] <ajin> join #ubuntu+1
[03:50] <ajin> sorry
[03:51] <smw> Xylch, they do get tested. I think it is safe.
[03:51] <smw> Xylch, I use it :-)
[03:51] <smw> dzjitaru, lubuntu or xbuntu
[03:51] <smw> dziadu, xubuntu*
[03:51] <smw> dzjitaru, ^
[03:51] <hiexpo> dzjitaru, puppy
[03:51] <Some_Person> dzjitaru: lubuntu is pretty good
[03:51] <rizanoar> can't enable compiz in Via graphic...
[03:52] <dzjitaru> smw, hiexpo, Some_Person,  ok thank you! will try them!
[03:52] <smw> dzjitaru, it you want a small install install, chances are you will be forced to use the commandline
[03:52] <smw> dzjitaru, it just won't be as bad as arch
[03:53] <hiexpo> gentoo
[03:54] <dzjitaru> smw, hmm ok,
[03:54] <Some_Person> hiexpo: I think that's hardly lightweight
[03:54] <smw> dzjitaru, chances are you don't need a light weight one.
[03:54] <wujie_> wineqq网址http://dl.dbank.com/c04iuiqplq
[03:54] <smw> dzjitaru, unless your computer is from the stone ages
[03:55] <smw> wujie_, english only in this channel
[03:55] <smw> wujie_, please go to #ubuntu-cn
[03:55] <dfrybarger> i'm having problems with a printer that was working and then stopped working today.
[03:56] <wujie_> wineQQ and offfice2003   LOOK：http://dl.dbank.com/c04iuiqplq
[03:57] <bazhang> wujie_, dont paste here please
[03:58] <skooz2011> how do i fix folders opening with wrong program
[03:58] <rizanoar> ubuntu tweak
[03:59] <geegeegee> hey guys i heard someone added a column to the file system comparison table on wikipedia with 'Kills your wife' as a feature and only  reiserfs was checked
[03:59] <xangua> skooz2011: create a folder and set it to open with (sic) ... open folder
[04:00] <smw> geegeegee, that is a joke page and NOT wikipedia
[04:00] <smw> geegeegee, although it is very funny...
[04:00] <AaeRohn> hello?
[04:01] <smw> hi AaeRohn
[04:01] <pksadiq> Hello
[04:01] <AaeRohn> I got a driver for my vistablet, but I don't know how to install it...
[04:02] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: what type of file is it? Its extension
[04:02] <AaeRohn> tar.bz2
[04:02] <Jantire> I'm going to spam here for just a second and I apologize for this in advance
[04:03] <Jantire> If anyone is looking for an intern for their startup of 4 or more people and in the Bay Area feel free to email me at jarredsumner@live.com
[04:03] <xangua> Jantire: do not ever again
[04:03] <xangua> !compile | AaeRohn
[04:03] <rizanoar> @jantire:hahahahah
[04:03] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: double click it to open and read the files README and INSTALL in that archive
[04:04] <vivid> is karmic eol?
[04:04] <smw> !karmic | vivid
[04:04] <AaeRohn> pksadiq: the readme does not tell me how to install
[04:04] <vivid> thanks
[04:04] <skooz2011> xangua: the folders under places open with shotwell so where do i create a folder
[04:04] <AaeRohn> pksadiq: nor where
[04:04] <xangua> skooz2011: on your dekstop
[04:04] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: visit the link at !compile as ubottu said
[04:05] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: if that doesnt help ask here
[04:05] <rbridgew> .
[04:05] <xevious> How can I remove the linux-image packages without removing their files or any dependencies?
[04:05] <skooz2011> I just created a folder then what
[04:06] <vivid> !hardy
[04:09] <ailujana> hi, how can i remove all the recovery modes from the bootscreen? is it possible to show only the last version of the kernel?
[04:09] <xangua> !startupmanager | ailujana
[04:09] <xangua> !info startupmanager
[04:09] <ohai> hello
[04:10] <dreamer000> +
[04:11] <smw> ailujana, that is a bad idea
[04:11] <Andre_Re> hey guys
[04:11] <smw> ailujana, the reason to show old kernels is incase they send an update that stops it from booting.
[04:11] <Andre_Re> i want to move my current /home partition onto another hard drive
[04:11] <smw> ailujana, this method was learned through experience.
[04:11] <xevious> Can I override the process that gets run when Ubuntu upgrades the kernel?
[04:11] <ailujana> ok, but i have a big list now
[04:12] <xevious> Or uninstall the kernel packages but leave the files?
[04:12] <ailujana> 2 options would be ok
[04:12] <Andre_Re> i copied the file using rsync
[04:12] <Andre_Re> the problem is, that the partition is encrypted
[04:13] <xevious> Is there a way to skip postinst or postrm when installing or removing a package?
[04:14] <autospkr> hi all - i recently installed 10.10 on a netbook, but the vid driver wasn't available until i installed the proprietary drv.
[04:14] <naryfa> I have to reinstall ubuntu boooooooooooo
[04:14] <autospkr> it now defaults to know - how do i switch it to use Unity now that i have the driver installed?
[04:15] <autospkr> er, know=gnome
[04:15] <autospkr> the sessions that would start unity now starts gnome from the gdm screen
[04:17] <Guest69135> hello
[04:20] <nixjr> whats radeon support in ubunut like? ive only ever used nvidia
[04:21] <bruenig> like every other distro since its done in the kernel
[04:22] <IvanBliminse> Hi, i'm running 2 computers with ubuntu 10.04, and i'm trying to share a folder between them, once i right click and share the folder using nautulis, how do i find that folder on the other box?
[04:22] <AntiSociaL>    _____. (\___/)
[04:22] <AntiSociaL>  ~(_]---' (='.'=)  Nobody move...
[04:22] <AntiSociaL>  /_(      (")_(")     Or the bunny gets it!
[04:22] <FloodBot1> AntiSociaL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <AaeRohn> I've tried the compile help, I still cannot install this driver, I still do not know how
[04:24] <ray_> I need help, hard drives both have bad sectors, I just read somewhere to do badblocks then fsck, I remember doing one or both of these before on another hard drive but I have never understood how to do this properly
[04:24] <smw> AaeRohn, which driver?
[04:25] <ray_> What commands in what order should I do them from a live cd?, How can I have that put into a log or something to know what sectors to mark as bad?, etc?
[04:26] <AaeRohn> smw: it's a driver for my vistablet, xf86 input wacom 0.10.9
[04:26] <AaeRohn> smw: if I cant get my tablet working, I can't make money on my side art commissions
[04:27] <ray_> poor bunny, lol
[04:27] <smw> !info xserver-xorg-input-wacom | AaeRohn
[04:27] <smw> AaeRohn, what is wrong with this driver?
[04:28] <cholo> askum dolo
[04:28] <AaeRohn> smw: I cannot install it, I do not know how, I even went through a compile help/tutorial thing
[04:28] <smw> AaeRohn, try sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-input-wacom
[04:28] <cholo> ada yg ol gak ya
[04:29] <smw> AaeRohn, I am not brave enough to compile an xorg driver... Just use the premade one.
[04:29] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: extract the compressed file to a folder in desktop and in terminal cd to that path
[04:30] <smw> pksadiq, do not suggest compiling if a package exists!
[04:31] <AaeRohn> smw: pksadiq: there is no driver in the way smw told me to get it, and I have the tar.bz2 file I was only able to find
[04:31] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: what is the name of the tar file?
[04:31] <smw> AaeRohn, it should already be installed...
[04:32] <AaeRohn> pksadiq: xf86-input-wacam-0.10.9.tar.bz2
[04:32] <AaeRohn> smw: if it was already installed, my tablet would work properly
[04:33] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: may be in terminal do sudo apt-get update     and go to system > administration > Hardware and enable the driver, this may work
[04:33] <ymasory> i have this bug with gnome settings such that when i log in the brown panels are this default grey. and when i click buttons i get a "pop" sound. anyone familiar with this issue?
[04:33] <pksadiq> !find wacam
[04:34] <ymasory> it is sometimes solvable by running killall gnome-settings-daemon
[04:34] <AaeRohn> pksadiq: I have the latest ubuntu, 10.2, or 10.4 I think, and there's no tablet driver int he hardware drivers
[04:35] <chuy> HOLA
[04:36] <justi519> what happened to the irc client ubuntu used to come with
[04:36] <chuy> ALGUIEN  HABLA  ESPAÑOL
[04:36] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: and so go to launchpad.net and search there for a compiled version for ubuntu, its not good to compile drivers from source if you don't have experience in that
[04:38] <z0mb13> justi519: i noticed xchat was missing in 11.04 too. It's available from apt thou
[04:38] <Lewoco> Is there any way to add UPnP support to the NAT performed by the 'Shared to other computers' feature in the network connections?
[04:39] <AaeRohn> pksadiq: is the latest ubuntu build called Maverick?
[04:40] <justi519> I typed ... sudo apt-get xchat
[04:40] <justi519> and it came back invalid
[04:41] <pksadiq> AaeRohn: latest stable is, and the the next natty is about to release late this month
[04:41] <z0mb13> justi519: make sure your install is updated first
[04:41] <pksadiq> !find xchat | justi519
[04:41] <pksadiq> justi519: do sudo apt-get install xchat-gnome
[04:42] <Checho> hola
[04:42] <TerryBook> I like the regular xchat over xchat-gnome
[04:42] <TerryBook> justi519, you forgot the install portion of the command
[04:43] <justi519> im getting this when i try to install anything
[04:43] <justi519> awn-extras-applets
[04:43] <justi519> i mean
[04:44] <pksadiq> justi519: then do sudo apt-get update
[04:44] <Checho> i am using ultimate edition
[04:44] <justi519> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[04:45] <pksadiq> justi519: you might have opened synaptic or software center, close that all first, and then do apt-get ......
[04:45] <Chr|s> how do I install fonts?
[04:45] <Chr|s> !fonts
[04:46] <justi519> Can i install Window 7 on top of ubuntu.. or does it have to be the other way around because wont bootloarder get knoced out
[04:46] <Chr|s> ahh nice, they made it easier :D
[04:46] <Chr|s> justi519: it can be done, but its more advanced
[04:46] <justi519> shoot
[04:46] <justi519> I am going to have to redo my whole linux and i spent weeks skinning it
[04:47] <Chr|s> justi519: just think, you will get to know ubuntu better this way :)
[04:47] <z0mb13> justi519, you can install 7 in a VM, it's not dual boot but it's what i do
[04:48] <canthus13> how would you get rsync to sync mp3s that have had their tags changed?
[04:48] <[snake]> How do I switch my buttons to the Left side in this order: Close, Minimize, Maximize?
[04:48] <canthus13> [snake]: Pick a different theme.
[04:48] <canthus13> [snake]: Some themes have them on the right.
[04:48] <smw> canthus13, aren't tags part of the file?
[04:48] <canthus13> smw: yes.
[04:49] <smw> canthus13, it should upload it as a change.
[04:49] <pksadiq> justi519: I know that it is possible, but don't have experiance, you can install windows in some other dives and reinstall grub, search google for more
[04:49] <smw> canthus13, use it normally
[04:49] <zetheroo> suddenly when trying to burn a CD I get this: "SCSI error on write(45168,16): [4 09 03] Spindle servo failure"
[04:49] <canthus13> smw: Unfortunately, it doesn't.
[04:49] <justi519> Yeah, I am going to have to get rid of linux .. windows is more important.. even though after skinning linux i got it almost working like a Mac Os X GUI  ...going to miss it
[04:49] <[snake]> canthus13, funny.. unfortunatly you're incorrect. there's a better way.
[04:49] <canthus13> smw: Of course, I'm using grsync.
[04:49] <smw> canthus13, that is ok
[04:49] <canthus13> [snake]: Oh. wait. left side. sorry. :)
[04:49] <Mahjongg> hello, upgrading from lucid to maverick my nautilus started freezing when mounting a remote ssh server, any clues?
[04:49] <smw> canthus13, s/ok/odd/
[04:49] <[snake]> canthus13, you can use a command to move them.
[04:49] <darren> I cant see going back to windows
[04:49] <Mahjongg> using "connect to server..." tool
[04:50] <[snake]> canthus13, I just don't remember it, and this is where I learned it.
[04:50] <justi519> well i need itunes or my IPAD wont work
[04:50] <canthus13> smw: would it be the --ignore-existing switch?
[04:50] <pksadiq> justi519: or you can install ubuntu inside windows as easy as installing a software in windows
[04:50] <zetheroo> anyone got an idea whats going on?
[04:50] <smw> canthus13, I have no idea
[04:50] <zetheroo> "SCSI error on write(45168,16): [4 09 03] Spindle servo failure"
[04:51] <canthus13> Unfortunately, google doesn't really help me out with any detail on --ignore-existing. :(
[04:51] <darren> zetherro = not really.  try burning to an iso then burn the iso?
[04:51] <justi519> Damn steve gates he still contributes a little to BSD UNIX but he wont make a Linux version of Itunes
[04:51] <zetheroo> darren: it happens when I try to burn anything ... and I have used K3b as well ...
[04:52] <justi519> Damn steve gates he still contributes a little to BSD UNIX but he wont make a Linux version of Itunes
[04:52] <urgodfather> hey i have an easy question for someone, i have a 15GB partition id like to install ubuntu on with wubi. how many GB should i make the installation size?
[04:52] <xust-droid2> NO proprietary driver available for an Nvidia GeForce4 MX440????
[04:52] <urgodfather> xust, u sure of that?
[04:52] <xust-droid2> nothing shows up in 10.10 when I tell it to search
[04:53] <urgodfather> google nvidia 270
[04:53] <xust-droid2> unless I have to download them from the ncrapia website manually?
[04:53] <urgodfather> thats a beta
[04:53] <urgodfather> i use 260.x the release
[04:53] <xust-droid2> those drivers don't support this card. it's way too old.
[04:53] <Gando-san> Hey, guys, did you know that Ubuntu is an African word that means "too stupid to install Debian"?
[04:53] <resch> lol
[04:53] <urgodfather> really?
[04:54] <z0mb13> justi519:  itunes = apple && apple no like linux.   if you can find a really old version of itunes you can sucessfully run it under wine
[04:54] <[snake]> canthus13, the command is gconftool-2 --type string --set /apps/metacity/general/button_layout "menu:close,minimize,maximize"
[04:54] <pksadiq> urgodfather: the minimum is 3 GB, and recommended might be 5 GB and up as your use, I think you cant resize it once you specified the size
[04:54] <darren> hrm.  I like it cause redhat doesnt like my mp3s?
[04:54] <[snake]> canthus13, the only problem is they don't go to the left
[04:54] <pksadiq> !nvidis | xust-droid2
[04:54] <urgodfather> you have a geforce4
[04:54] <darren> and Mint isnt much better. so why not use ubuntu
[04:54] <Mahjongg> hello, upgrading from lucid to maverick my nautilus started freezing when mounting a remote ssh server, any clues? using "connect to server..." tool
[04:54] <urgodfather> it should be fine
[04:54] <Gando-san> >geforce
[04:54] <Gando-san> housefire
[04:54] <pksadiq> !nvidia | xust-droid2
[04:55] <justi519> No way to run Ubuntu in wine at all huh
[04:55] <justi519> I mean Itunes in wine
[04:55] <Gando-san> >ubuntu in Wine
[04:55] <Gando-san> DO IT
[04:55] <z0mb13> justi519, old versions yes,   new versions no
[04:56] <naryfa> any people like kde?
[04:56] <Gando-san> Can you run Wubi in Wine?
[04:56] <z0mb13> gando-san: HELL YEA    UBUNTU ON UBUNTU ACTION!
[04:56] <xust-droid2> Why doesn't Ubuntu pull up any usable drivers for this though, it's worked fine with every card i've ever used with it
[04:56] <justi519> old versions  probaby wont supppurt my IPAD
[04:56] <urgodfather> pksadiq, i just did a 3GB and got an error that there wasnt enough space to do the update. im currently installing @ 7 GB. but then i decided to check to make sure since im in windows right now
[04:56] <z0mb13> can you run wine in wine?
[04:56] <chuunz> you gotta do deeper
[04:57] <canthus13> z0mb13: ...No. wine is a linux executable that runs windows executables.
[04:57] <Gando-san> Oh god
[04:57] <darren> run wine to run vmware player running dsk inside
[04:57] <darren> dsl
[04:57] <Gando-san> Wine in Ubuntu in Wine in Ubuntu
[04:57] <urgodfather> xust, that 260 dirver just got released last month, and you have a geforce 4, i dont see why that isnt a good enough driver
[04:57] <Gando-san> because it's an nVidia card
[04:57] <z0mb13> canthus13: i know    that was more of a response to "running ubuntu in wine"
[04:57] <Gando-san> and no matter what you do, it will still cause a housefire
[04:58] <urgodfather> gando, im taking about the nvidia driver 260 lol
[04:58] <justi519> i hate itunes!
[04:58] <justi519> have to dump my buntu
[04:58] <urgodfather> justi1519 +1
[04:59] <xust-droid2> alright. apparently it's not possible to have drivers on 10.10
[04:59] <xust-droid2> nice job!
[04:59] <urgodfather> yeah it is
[04:59] <urgodfather> dude, i just had it on mine
[04:59] <pksadiq> xust-droid2: did you try nvidia-new driver?
[04:59] <urgodfather> give me 15 mins and ill have it again
[04:59] <z0mb13> justi519: why do you need itunes,   just for an ipod/phone?
[04:59] <justi519> my ipad!!!!!!!
[05:00] <darren> apple..roflzwheely
[05:00] <xust-droid2> what do you mean nvidida-new driver?
[05:00] <urgodfather> shoulda got a xoom :D
[05:00] <justi519> MAYBE IT WILL WORK IN VIRTUALBOX
[05:00] <pksadiq> !caps | justi519
[05:00] <justi519> i got my ipad like 2 years ago
[05:00] <munz_> vmware player w/xp guest
[05:00] <Gando-san> I want to stick my rod in your buns
[05:01] <MileyRC> Gando-san, o.o
[05:01] <urgodfather> xust go to system > settings > additional dirvers
[05:01] <xust-droid2> that doesn't find anything.
[05:01] <urgodfather> pksadiq, did you see the last comment i made to you
[05:01] <MileyRC> Can anyone help me get sound working in Ubuntu? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4a0616c6fca8338b4bec8f34b71b967da034c08c
[05:01] <justi519> I dont understand why wine which is a windows emulater wont run itunes
[05:02] <pksadiq> urgodfather: the error if 3GB selected?
[05:02] <urgodfather> yes
[05:02] <munz_> wine=wine is not an emulator
[05:02] <pksadiq> justi519: what does you get when you double click itunes?
[05:02] <MileyRC> :(
[05:02] <justi519> it creates a fake c drive what you talking about willis
[05:02] <policyq> wine is totally an emulator
[05:02] <justi519> it sure not a fresh copy of de windo$e
[05:02] <MileyRC> No it's not, it's a drink..
[05:03] <MileyRC> Can anyone help me get sound working in Ubuntu? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4a0616c6fca8338b4bec8f34b71b967da034c08c
[05:03] <Lewoco> How can I make network manager run an arbitrary command whenever it brings up a particular connection?
[05:03] <urgodfather> xust-droid2, http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CCEQFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nvidia.com%2Fobject%2Flinux-display-ia32-260.19.12-driver.html&ei=5iuhTemGFMy4twf828ygAw&usg=AFQjCNHZXhFUe7tM-PEwE9v4r85MFOxv5Q
[05:03] <pksadiq> urgodfather: are you upgrading from your current ubuntu to any later?
[05:03] <munz_> what vr of itunes u using
[05:03] <xust-droid2> once again: those drivers do NOT support my card.
[05:03] <urgodfather> yes, to 35-28
[05:03] <[snake]> FINNALY
[05:03] <[snake]> i got it.
[05:04] <urgodfather> but i will delete 35-22 as soon as i do
[05:04] <hylian> I am trying to seperate the truth from the hype and am having a hard time at it. Is unity going to replace gnome on Ubuntu? and If it is, can someone point me to another OS, because Unity sucks?
[05:04] <policyq> hylian: heh hey so what makes unity suck so much
[05:04] <MileyRC> Can anyone help me get sound working in Ubuntu? http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=4a0616c6fca8338b4bec8f34b71b967da034c08c
[05:04] <pksadiq> !sound | MileyRC
[05:04] <urgodfather> mileyrc, did you search for additional drivers?
[05:04] <munz_> hylian, you can log in to "classic"
[05:04] <justi519> wait nevermind Itunes is installing in wine now... YAY
[05:04] <munz_> same gnome
[05:05] <urgodfather> mileyrc, dont double post
[05:05] <MileyRC> urgodfather, yeah, but they won't install because no alsaconfig
[05:05] <hylian> policyq, a) I cannot change the theme b) buttons forced to left side, where they don't belong c) exceptionally buggy d) I am a gnome fan..:)
[05:05] <policyq> munz_: not for long. shuttleworth let it slip that classic wont be around for long
[05:05] <policyq> what i heard
[05:05] <MileyRC> I wouldn't have to double post if sound on linux wasn't such a nightmare ;3
[05:05] <xust-droid2> I have to use a DVI-VGA converter to get video on ubuntu in the first place. It won't do VGA AT ALL
[05:05] <munz_> what!?!
[05:05] <urgodfather> mileyrc, you have to make one probably
[05:05] <urgodfather> i forgot the command
[05:05] <policyq> hylian: you mean you can't move that thing to the right side??
[05:05] <hylian> munz_, actually that is why i am here, because i heard classic will be phased out as of 11.10... is that true?
[05:05] <urgodfather> i had to do the same with a beta nvidia driver once
[05:06] <munz_> that is crappy
[05:06] <munz_> wow
[05:06] <policyq> munz_: heard it on thisweekinlinux
[05:06] <MileyRC> I have to 'make one'?
[05:06] <munz_> :(
[05:06] <Gando-san> >not using Debian or Arch or Gentoo
[05:06] <hylian> policyq, correct, buttons should be on the right unless there is a cute picture of an apple on my computer, and my mouse only has one button :)
[05:06] <urgodfather> yeah, its a terminal command
[05:06] <policyq> hylian: where did you hear that
[05:06] <sonowilson> MileyRC I had a really hard time getting sound to work on a dell c600, eventually all I had to do was set the permissions on the sound device
[05:06] <policyq> hylian: ohhh i thought you meant the big menu bar buttons on the left side of the screen
[05:07] <policyq> hylian: you can force those window buttons to the right with a little gconf magic
[05:07] <hylian> policyq, i heard it through google, reading ubuntu posts... I would love unity if it was a second choice, and if it allowed me to put things where I want like gnome.
[05:07] <justi519> I thought it installing
[05:07] <xust-droid2> If I had an ATI Radeon 9200SE, would I be able to use the "additional drivers" part?
[05:07] <urgodfather> mileyrc, linux (or even the computer) is only as good as the user behind it
[05:07] <MileyRC> 00:0f.0 Audio device: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Azalia Audio Controller
[05:07] <MileyRC> 	Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device 81a1
[05:07] <policyq> what does Unity unify anyway? can someone explain that
[05:07] <justi519> it says ituneshelper not correctly installed
[05:07] <hylian> policyq, not on unity. they are stuck to the left side, because gconf controls gnome, not unity.
[05:08] <MileyRC> policyq, what does unity "unify" you mean?
[05:08] <policyq> hylian: orly
[05:08] <policyq> wow
[05:08] <MileyRC> urgodfather, no comment :|
[05:08] <MileyRC> well the sound of my fans is quite relaxing actually :3
[05:08] <MileyRC> who needs music anyway when you have free software
[05:08] <policyq> MileyRC: yeah i think i mean that. what's it  unify
[05:08] <urgodfather> pksadiq, so do you think that 7 GB installation will be fine? i dont plan on adding a lot of apps or anyting, if anything ill be removing stuff as soon as i get done with install
[05:09] <hylian> policyq, so has anyone else heard this "gossip" because i would love to belive it aint so. personally, if i could wish one peice of software out of existence, it would be unity.
[05:09] <Gando-san> hey guys
[05:09] <Gando-san> http://i.imgur.com/yua4O.png
[05:09] <xust-droid2> When I boot this sytem up, I can't see exactly what it says, but something along the lines of "uli chipset not supported"
[05:09] <xust-droid2> any ideas what it's flashing on the screen?
[05:09] <policyq> hylian: yeah but is unity really all that different from gnome 3 when you look at it
[05:09] <urgodfather> mileyrc, wasnt intended as an insult, just a reminder :)
[05:09] <MileyRC> Gando-san, would that make my sound work?
[05:09] <pksadiq> urgodfather: I think if using wubi, fresh "install inside windows " good, updating might cuase errors, any way 7 GB might do
[05:09] <Gando-san> YES, it would.
[05:10] <MileyRC> Gando-san, I can't ind gentoo in the repositories :(
[05:10] <bouma> can anyone help me get google body, which needs webgl, to run. im using ubuntu 10.04, with just the standard repos. with chromium 10.0.648.133 (Developer Build 77742) Ubuntu 10.04
[05:10] <hylian> policyq, yes. gnome is configurable, and unity is not. and unity doesn't give me a desktop. i like to make things work and look my way, and unity, atleast for now, is unchangeable.
[05:11] <justi519> you can install linux on ipad but not ipad on linux
[05:11] <urgodfather> pksadiq, thanks. just wanted a 2nd opinion before i let the 7GB installation stay or uninstall and make bigger. after all, it is a 15gb partition
[05:11] <MileyRC> justi519, lol
[05:11] <policyq> hylian: i didnt know unity was so unconfigurable. you'd think it would be if not now then later on.. you sure there isn't some  hidden 'gconf' style thing in there somewhere
[05:11] <gunndawg> justi519, that is because ipad is a device and linux is an OS
[05:11]  * hylian wonders if xubuntu is gonna change, xfce aint all that bad.,
[05:12] <z0mb13> gunndawg: you can totally install an ipad on a linux
[05:12] <hiexpo> Gando-san, these peoplecouldnot dogentoo thats why they are here
[05:12] <hylian> policyq, well, as of 5 months ago the was not.
[05:12] <bouma> ive got the about:gpu info too. its using mesa apparently.
[05:12] <gunndawg> z0mb13,  lol
[05:12] <pksadiq> urgodfather: I usually do a 5 GB installation for my friends, which works quiet fine
[05:12] <MileyRC> but really how can i make this sound card work http://paste.ubuntu.com/591978/
[05:12] <policyq> hylian: oh hm
[05:12] <MileyRC> does anyone actually know?
[05:12] <pksadiq> !unity
[05:12] <^NiNjA> u sure u cant install ipad in linux using wine?
[05:12] <^NiNjA> lol
[05:13] <hylian> policyq, it's ok man, not your fault, I was actually hoping you would tell me it's all just gossip, and not based on reality :(
[05:13] <urgodfather> pksadiq, ok awesome so yeah, 7 should be plenty
[05:13] <policyq> hylian: well im gonna be in ubuntu-offtopic i got a theory on al this
[05:13] <policyq> thanks pksadiq
[05:13] <Gando-san> !
[05:13] <Gando-san> Ι'd јuѕt lіkе tο іntеrјесt fοr а mοmеnt. Wһаt уοu'rе rеfеrrіng tο аѕ Lіnux, іѕ іn fасt, GΝU/Lіnux, οr аѕ Ι'vе rесеntlу tаkеn tο саllіng іt, GΝU рluѕ Lіnux. Lіnux іѕ nοt аn οреrаtіng ѕуѕtеm untο іtѕеlf, but rаtһеr аnοtһеr frее сοmрοnеnt οf а fullу funсtіοnіng GΝU ѕуѕtеm mаdе uѕеful bу tһе
[05:13] <Gando-san> GΝU сοrеlіbѕ, ѕһеll utіlіtіеѕ аnd vіtаl ѕуѕtеm сοmрοnеntѕ сοmрrіѕіng а full OS аѕ dеfіnеd bу ΡOSΙX.
[05:13] <MileyRC> or is everyone just going to tell me "the computer is only as good as the user behind it" because it just werked for them?
[05:13] <urgodfather> see ya'll in 15 mins :)
[05:13] <FloodBot1> Gando-san: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:13] <pksadiq> urgodfather: do hope so
[05:13]  * urgodfather is rebooting
[05:13] <Jon--> I want to make my GNOME panel completely transparent at the bottom window list, so that there is no defined boxes for the window list, just transparency onto my desktop. Running GNOME with Compiz. How can I do this?
[05:13] <z0mb13> NiNJa: if wine can't do it, vodka will
[05:14] <bouma> 3d is working fine with the opensource default drivers. eg compositing works, but is switched to none/off, google earth works fine, but chromium which does support webgl, the webgl doesnt work
[05:14] <hylian> can anyone confirm or deny the replcaing of gnome with unity in later versions of ubuntu (11.10 or later) the word is gnome will not be a standard feature...
[05:14] <MileyRC> but really how can i make this sound card work http://paste.ubuntu.com/591978/
[05:14] <^NiNjA> lol z0mb13
[05:14] <smw> Gando-san, get your facts strait. It is an operating system
[05:14] <MileyRC> ^NiNjA, cool nickname bro; let's me know you're leet
[05:15] <pksadiq> !info emerald | Jon--
[05:15] <MileyRC> h4xx0r also has a cool nickname, he is definitely l33t
[05:15] <MileyRC> I bet he's packing green on black terminal colours
[05:15]  * ^NiNjA wishes
[05:15] <^NiNjA> but thx
[05:15] <pksadiq> !wine | z0mb13
[05:15] <h4xx0r> lol
[05:15] <hylian> Gando-san, linux is the operating system, and the gnu parts are the add ons. you had it quite backwards. linux is the kernel that operated the system.
[05:16] <MileyRC> hylian, >MFW
[05:16] <Gando-san> 0/10, hylian
[05:16] <hylian> MileyRC, I am sorry, what does MFW mean?
[05:16] <hiexpo> Gando-san, Linux is a leading server operating system, and runs the 10 fastest supercomputers in the world.
[05:16] <Jon--> pksadiq, I need to use emerald to do this?
[05:16] <[thor]> successful troll is successful.
[05:17] <MileyRC> hylian, imagine a face that would impart the emotion in my post
[05:17] <pksadiq> Jon--: might be not , but its a theme manager, right click on panal and in options you might have the option to set opacity
[05:17] <MileyRC> in this case, it's somewhere between "XD" an d "8[05:17] <hylian> MileyRC, sorry, still not getting it.
[05:18] <MileyRC> http://tinyurl.com/dnm7v
[05:18] <MileyRC> miley, sign up for ubuntu forums
[05:18] <MileyRC> at least then someone knowledgeable might see it
[05:19] <MileyRC> this channel is just a skiddie hideout
[05:19] <hylian> Gando-san, "Linux refers to the family of Unix-like computer operating systems using the Linux kernel."  hylian 10/10
[05:19] <MileyRC> makes them feel leet being in here
[05:19] <rww> MileyRC: It's probably good for your continued presence in this channel that the tinyurl you linked to doesn't work.
[05:19] <zetheroo> I can't burn any CD's or DVD's ... was working fine a week ago!
[05:19] <z0mb13> rww: lol
[05:20] <^NiNjA> lol
[05:20] <Jon--> I want to make my GNOME panel completely transparent at the bottom window list, so that there is no defined boxes for the window list, just transparency onto my desktop. Running GNOME with Compiz. How can I do this?
[05:20] <Gando-san> Install Gentoo
[05:20] <^NiNjA> Jon--,  why not use a simple dockbar app then?
[05:20] <hylian> Gando-san Lol, naughty.
[05:21] <^NiNjA> would be easier to just synaptic GLX or even docky
[05:21] <hiexpo> Jon--, just right click it and hit properties
[05:22] <^NiNjA> i think hes wanting full transparency including icons applet icons, etc.
[05:23] <[thor]> Jon--: the best you can do strictly with gnome-panel is turn the background to solid with full transparency
[05:27] <Jon--> [thor], I'd like to just have a simple taskbar at the bottom, but I run a black desktop and it would look very nice to just have everything completely transparent. Any idea how I can do this?
[05:27] <[thor]> something like docky, or cairo-dock
[05:28] <chuunz> of avant-window-navigator
[05:28] <chuunz> *or
[05:28] <gerzel> can anyone recomend a good website for electronic tools and a supplies?
[05:28] <chuunz> newegg.com
[05:29] <rww> #ubuntu-offtopic.
[05:29] <Jon--> Well
[05:29] <[thor]> Jon--: here's a look at my (mostly default) cairo-dock setup --> http://uppix.net/8/a/e/c24ef3dc5f297e2035ef65914afff.png
[05:29] <Jon--> rww, my original question involved metacity, compiz and/or gnome-panel. Watch it.
[05:30] <rww> Jon--: Good thing I'm not talking to you!
[05:30] <Jon--> lol sorry thought you were
[05:30] <[thor]> Jon--: rww is correct however.. expounding on the benefits of 3rd party apps is not the focus of this channel :/
[05:31] <Jon--> Well I have Docky installed right now, but I have them on the side, I use the bottom for a per-workspace quick glance at what I have open, it's just not very sexy right now4
[05:34] <hylian> I am thinking about making an *buntu based distro where the damned buttons are only on the right and can't be moved >:)    - (dreaming of unity being slow erased, all the 1's becoming 0's.)
[05:34] <Jon--> hylian, you be trolling but I laughed.
[05:35] <hylian> Jon--, sorry. Unity is just no replacement for gnome. and the buttons should be able to go to the right. give me that option, don't tie my hands, right?
[05:36] <Gando-san> >*buntu
[05:36] <Gando-san> It's all the same, what the fuck
[05:36] <h4xx0r> anyone here tried ubuntu 11 yet?
[05:36] <Gando-san> Only real difference is the DE.
[05:36] <^NiNjA> i tried the alpha 2
[05:36] <h4xx0r> anybody liked it?
[05:36] <Gando-san> >mfw retards actually believe that there's a major difference in Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, and Edubuntu
[05:36] <^NiNjA> wouldnt run on my system
[05:36] <hylian> not yet
[05:36] <copypaste> h4xx0r: yeah they changed openoffice's name for some reason :(
[05:36] <^NiNjA> didn't like my ATI
[05:36] <h4xx0r> to LibreOffice?
[05:36] <h4xx0r> LOL
[05:36] <MK`> XD
[05:37] <copypaste> yeah I dunno why xD!
[05:37] <copypaste> it's not like open isn't a better name
[05:37] <MK`> They didn't change the name
[05:37] <h4xx0r> I dont think they changed it, I just guess it's another office program :S (not sure tho)
[05:37] <MK`> LibreOffice is a separate project
[05:37] <^NiNjA> same core base ubuntu/deb
[05:37] <h4xx0r> yea
[05:37] <h4xx0r> see
[05:37] <^NiNjA> just diff desktop environ
[05:37] <smw> MK`, not really
[05:37] <h4xx0r> but I guess OpenOffice was fine
[05:37] <MK`> https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/LibreOffice
[05:37] <MK`> just read that
[05:37] <smw> MK`, most of the OOo developers moved to libreoffice
[05:37] <hylian> from what I understand the OO guys have changed their licensing to the point where they don't want any confusion over the old OO and the new project software.
[05:38] <MK`> the Hisyory sextion
[05:38] <MK`> yeah I know
[05:38] <smw> MK`, that is like saying MariaDB is not a rename of mysql.
[05:38] <MK`> I know XD
[05:38] <MK`> I was there when it happened :P
[05:38] <smw> MK`, or jenkins and hudson
[05:38] <h4xx0r> woah
[05:39] <h4xx0r> libreoffice is cool :P
[05:39] <h4xx0r> http://goo.gl/bOBlX
[05:39] <h4xx0r> Check this
[05:39] <copypaste> wow!!!
[05:39] <smw> MK`, there are many examples of the developer community leaving a project that is owned by a company and doing the equivalent of a rename.
[05:39] <h4xx0r> yeah wow :P
[05:39] <hylian> does anyone know if the rumors are right that 1 or 2 releases down the line, ubuntu will be strictly unity? I hope not.
[05:39] <copypaste> lol that's going on my facebook wall
[05:40] <h4xx0r> hahahahahahah
[05:40] <h4xx0r> lol
[05:40] <MK`> Yes I know :P
[05:40] <copypaste> "to all those who bought office 2010" LMAO
[05:40] <MK`> teach them
[05:40] <h4xx0r> and what about the new music player
[05:40] <h4xx0r> does anyone here use BlueMindo?
[05:41] <hylian> h4xx0r, what little music i listen to goes through totem usually. I really don't need any "itunes" -esque media player.
[05:41] <h4xx0r> anyone here wanna recommend me a good music player for ubuntu? (Other than amarok and rythmbox)
[05:42] <chuunz> banshee
[05:42] <copypaste> h4xx0r: real hackers use mplayer lol
[05:42] <hylian> totem
[05:42] <h4xx0r> mplayer?
[05:42] <copypaste> noobs
[05:42] <h4xx0r> lol
[05:42] <h4xx0r> Totem Mplayer?
[05:42] <hylian> yep mplayer, it can play shoutcast streams, audio, video. I personally like moc or mocp of your gonna listen to music from the console.
[05:43] <copypaste> h4xx0r: I dunno really; you just type "mplayer song.mp3" and it plays; really hard to control though but looks so banging in the terminal
[05:43] <h4xx0r> listening to music from console is like fucking old-skool lol
[05:43] <copypaste> I know right
[05:43] <copypaste> :D
[05:43] <Zelozelos> when i start my sys, compiz is freezing my desktop and panels if i run metacity --replace i can stop it then after opening a terminal and running metacity again i see this error " WARNING: Application calling GLX 1.3 function "glXDestroyPixmap" when GLX 1.3 is not supported!  This is an application bug!" is related to the current problem??
[05:43] <shcherbak> You can use cvls with similar effect to mplayer
[05:43] <h4xx0r> Im currently using bluemindo and its cool
[05:44] <h4xx0r> no bugs/problems yet.
[05:44] <h4xx0r> the new ubuntu will be arriving with Banshee
[05:44] <hylian> i like the ability to do everything from the console. and I have a machine with just inx on, so, only console. (INX is not X!) an ubuntu based distro
[05:44] <Zelozelos> what started it all was that cairo-dock kept enabling the widget layer in compiz
[05:44] <pksadiq> h4xx0r: mplayer have very great options 0 or 9 to change volume,  <  or > to seek, etc
[05:44] <shcherbak> hylian: Ubuntu as long it is linux, you should be able to run whatever eyecandy.
[05:44] <copypaste> pksadiq: yeah if your sound actually works
[05:44] <copypaste> lol
[05:45] <chuunz> hexxor, try mpd+ncmpcpp
[05:45] <hylian> shcherbak, this is true. It;s just one more thing I will have to do, sudo apt-get remove unity, anyone?
[05:45] <pksadiq> hylian: what is the size of INX?
[05:46] <chuunz> sudo apt-get remove unity && apt-get install openbox
[05:46] <hylian> pksadiq, about 100 meg, giv or take
[05:46] <shcherbak> h4xx0r: for console you can play music with allmighty mocp or mpd
[05:46] <copypaste> chuunz: haha canonical pwned
[05:46] <pksadiq> h4xx0r: and even nvlc
[05:46] <hylian> pksadiq, go here if you are interested: http://inx.maincontent.net/
[05:46] <chuunz> ncmpcpp master race here
[05:46] <MAXWELL> HI I NEED SOME HELP WITH MOUNT POINTS AND INSTALLING TO MULTIPLE STORAGE MEDIAS
[05:47] <Required> Push the caps lock button. It's next to your 'A' key.
[05:47] <hylian> pksadiq, i was off, more like 200 meg
[05:47] <copypaste> chuunz: you know I would use it but http://unkart.ovh.org/ncmpcpp/ is such a bland page
[05:47] <copypaste> that speaks volumes about quality I've noticed
[05:47] <h4xx0r> lol ncmpcpp looks old skool :P
[05:47] <copypaste> like they can't even HTML and CSS lol XD
[05:47] <pksadiq> hylian: k, now there, thanx
[05:48] <chuunz> copupast: lmfao
[05:48] <chuunz> *copypaste
[05:48] <h4xx0r> chuunz: lol
[05:48] <chuunz> gotta lay off the wine
[05:48] <MAXWELL> hi i need some help with mount points and installing to multiple storage medias
[05:48] <shcherbak> MAXWELL: Start from CapsLock.
[05:48] <hylian> I am seriously considering installing inx is not x for my main os.
[05:49] <MAXWELL> my capslock is off now
[05:49] <copypaste> hylian: just do it u only live once am i right and you always have that win 7 disk in case it doesn't work lol
[05:49] <shcherbak> What do you want to install to drives?
[05:49] <chuunz> maxwell: what exactly are you trying to do?
[05:49] <MAXWELL> lucid lynx
[05:50] <MAXWELL> i am wanting to use USB sticks as storage (my hd died)
[05:50] <MAXWELL> i wanna use one for root
[05:50] <MAXWELL> another for usr
[05:50] <MAXWELL> another for home
[05:50] <copypaste> oh cool idea
[05:50] <FloodBot1> MAXWELL: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:50] <copypaste> get like 20 USB sticks rofl
[05:50] <copypaste> and then tons of port hubs
[05:50] <copypaste> epic win!
[05:50] <h4xx0r> how long since u have not shutdown /restarted your pc/laptop ubuntu users?
[05:50] <Required> lmao
[05:50] <MAXWELL> it looks simple in the installer. but it isn't working for me
[05:50] <h4xx0r> its been 4 days here and I feel its stable
[05:51] <MAXWELL> as i said my HD died. i've nothing else to install to.
[05:51] <Nisstyre> h4xx0r, ~ 5 days, but I'm not using Ubuntu
[05:51] <MAXWELL> these USB sticks are but 4GB each. if i use one i've only 1GB of space left over. that's not enough for anyone
[05:51] <pksadiq> Nisstyre: then?????
[05:52] <Nisstyre> pksadiq, then what?
[05:52] <hylian> copypaste, i havent used windows since win 2000. so i don't. I have been a strictly linux user for a decade now. :)
[05:52] <adityag> whats the one command to set up AMP ?
[05:52] <pksadiq> Nisstyre: if not ubuntu which
[05:52] <h4xx0r> yea which one?
[05:52] <shcherbak> MAXWELL: In the end you need new HD, just install system on one usb, and make links to data.
[05:52] <Nisstyre> pksadiq, Arch Linux
[05:52] <h4xx0r> o.O
[05:52] <gartral> HELP. I let my one laptop's battery die today while it was booted into ubuntu without relising it, and when i came back i logged in fine but neither metacity nor my panels came up!
[05:52] <Zelozelos> if i was to purge/reinstall compiz would it fix my settings issue. im sure the freezes are because of them
[05:53] <hylian> I think I am gonna shop around for a Ubuntu replacement, anyone have any suggestions? (please don't say bsd...)
[05:53] <shcherbak> gartral: does Alt-F2 works?
[05:53] <h4xx0r> yea
[05:53] <adityag> whats the one command to set up AMP & other setups ?
[05:53] <h4xx0r> its for RUN
[05:53] <copypaste> hylian: Gentoo might b cool
[05:53] <gartral> schmidtm_: lemme try
[05:53] <^NiNjA> MAXWELL,  you could get a smaller ditro and install it on one USB
[05:53] <shcherbak> gartral: or Alt-F1, or alt-ctrl-t ?
[05:53] <^NiNjA> "distro"
[05:53] <chuunz> hylianL definately gentoo
[05:54] <copypaste> it's really hard to install though; i tried once and my computer got all hot and shut off in the middle!
[05:54] <holoseen> puppy
[05:54] <hylian> gartral can you get to a terminal? (not ctrl-alt-f1)
[05:54] <^NiNjA> agreed holoseen
[05:54] <gartral> schmidtm_: ctrl-alt-t does
[05:54] <Nisstyre> copypaste, probably because it was too much for it to compile all of that
[05:54] <gartral> hylian: yes, but i can't get online..
[05:54] <^NiNjA> lucid puppy i keep on a stick to fix what i break
[05:54] <shcherbak> gartral: try metacity --replace , hight hung system.
[05:54] <hylian> copypaste, thanks I'll take a look!
[05:55] <copypaste> Nisstyre: yeah it's really old I love it though I bought some LED's to make it go faster
[05:55] <fennucci> I love how my battery lasts longer and my internet is faster using Linux
[05:55] <fennucci> YAY
[05:55] <fennucci> LONG LIVE THE KING
[05:55] <FloodBot1> fennucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:55] <gartral> schmidtm_: did that, it brought metacity back, not my panals
[05:55] <shcherbak> hylian: Whtas wrong with Ubuntu?
[05:55] <chuunz> gartral: start gnome-panel
[05:55] <hylian> gartral, try running this in terminal: nautilus --no-default-window
[05:55] <shcherbak> hylian: Go to Debian, same thing, but more normal (traditional)
[05:56] <gartral> shcherbak: did that, it brought metacity back, not my panals
[05:56] <fennucci> can I dual boot two linux's and windows?
[05:56] <copypaste> fennucci: dude it's true comcast throttles windoZe users but not ubuntus lol! my internet goes faster too so funny that no one knows about this xD
[05:56] <fennucci> how would I instal it?
[05:56] <fennucci> yeah I use verizon
[05:56] <fennucci> but
[05:56] <copypaste> they all do
[05:56] <fennucci> it is just faster heh
[05:56] <fennucci> jah
[05:56] <hylian> shcherbak, debian straight up can't do a few of the things I need it to, or i would be a simply mepis man.
[05:56] <FloodBot1> fennucci: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <shcherbak> gartral: try gnome-panel --replace
[05:56] <Zelozelos> is there a gentoo support chat such as this one?
[05:56] <Abhijit> Zelozelos, #gentoo
[05:56] <Zelozelos> ty
[05:57] <hylian> gartral, did you get my post?
[05:57] <gartral> shcherbak: says --replace is n invlid option
[05:57] <gartral> hylian: one sec.
[05:57] <shcherbak> !panel | gartral
[05:57] <shcherbak> !resetpanel | gartral
[05:57] <holoseen> arch has less learning curve than gentoo.
[05:57] <copypaste> oh there's a bot?
[05:57] <shcherbak> gartral: this ^^^
[05:57] <copypaste> does it play trivia?
[05:57] <omac> I have a usb thumb drive that doesn't mount.  When Isusb it shows 090c:6200 Feiya Technology Corp.
[05:57] <gartral> hylian: returns too prompt.
[05:58] <hylian> shcherbak, i don't like the way Ubuntu is headed. Unity is becoming their favorite, but takes a lot of freedoms away, like I like my buttons on the right where they should be.
[05:58] <hylian> gartral, "nautilus --no-default-window" returns to prompt? it doesn't give you an error or anything?
[05:58] <chuunz> ubuntu is turning into mac oss
[05:58] <gartral> hylian: i'll retype it
[05:58] <Vustom> I have headphones that plugin to my comuter using the green and pink + USB ports at the front of my computer, and they go out one of the ports in the back of the computer and plugin to my Xbox 360, (I think it's In-line or something?) anyways, when I was on Windows I could hear the Xbox sounds, when using Ubuntu i can't
[05:58] <shcherbak> hylian: Simple, do it Semi-Luke way, install minimal, and get what you need.
[05:59] <Vustom> Any ideas..?
[05:59] <copypaste> chuunz: lol yeah macs are better you're acting like that's a bad thing geez
[05:59] <pksadiq> !control | hylian
[05:59] <Gando-san> lmao wtf guys
[05:59] <copypaste> I mean Mac OS X just works and looks really cool so of course ubuntu is becoming more like it
[05:59] <omac> I love gnome myself.  I haven't tried unity yet, but the first impressions of taking away notification areas sound like I'll be having to touch a few times on the screen or something to see something that I could already see in gnome without any human intervention.
[05:59] <copypaste> just the natural course of things
[05:59] <copypaste> lol!
[05:59] <gartral> hylian: returns too prompt. with both quotes and without
[05:59] <Gando-san> i know, right, copypaste?
[05:59] <Gando-san> its a great step forward for them
[05:59] <^NiNjA> Vustom,  sounds like you have some connections mismatched
[06:00] <pksadiq> !controls | hylian
[06:00] <omac> I know the purpose of unity though.  Save screen real estate to the task at hand.
[06:00] <Gando-san> but it cant ever really be as good, u know, because u get what u pay for!
[06:00] <thalass> Hi folks. I have an issue with my wife's acer aspire one running 10.10. It's a bit strange haha
[06:00] <hylian> shcherbak, my problem isn't that I can fix it, because i would have no problem removing unity and installing gnome if it came to it. my problem is they are changinf to a very un controllable gui without giving me the choice to say no.
[06:00] <copypaste> Gando-san: i disagree it can be as good
[06:00] <omac> I have an acer aspire also.
[06:00] <omac> Runs like a charm.
[06:00] <copypaste> look at it this way, mac os x has been the same for years
[06:00] <copypaste> we'll catch up while apple will just go to phones and loltablets
[06:00] <fennucci> whats the backtrack4 chatroom?
[06:00] <Vustom> ^NiNjA, the connections are fine because i haven't changed them since I was on Windows, but I remember this happening before and I had to make another sound device default in the Windows Sound control panel..
[06:00] <hylian> pksadiq, i like you man, but please read the post thouroughly, because the info ubottu gave me does not apply. unity is not controlled by gconf.
[06:00] <^NiNjA> in ubuntu 11.04 standard gnome 2.? is an option at GDM login
[06:01] <omac> back in China they actually ship acer computers with Linpus if I recall correctly.
[06:01] <dazappa> anybody know how to nuke a usb drive pretty good, under Windows? I'm trying to use unetbootin to shove a ubuntu image onto my usb drive, but there's a Windows bootloader that will not go away even through formatting; and the Windows partition editor only shows one partition
[06:01] <shcherbak> hylian: well, make own distro, Hubuntu?
[06:01] <copypaste> omac: Linpuss? LOL
[06:01] <Vustom> ?
[06:01] <hylian> shcherbak, i like the way you think, LOL.
[06:01] <omac> Yeah.  It's Debian-based.
[06:01] <^NiNjA> Vustom,  is this a windows problem or Ubuntu?
[06:01] <omac> if I recall correctly.
[06:01] <pksadiq> fennucci: might be backtrack-linux
[06:01] <fennucci> hey
[06:01] <copypaste> heh rofl they speak chinese so they don't get the joke xD trolled hard
[06:01] <fennucci> ok
[06:01] <gartral> shcherbak: ok, i did that aand it says "gnome-panal: no process found
[06:01] <shcherbak> sleep now, bye.
[06:01] <fennucci> defintely thanks
[06:02] <thalass> I installed ubuntu because her windows install was crapping out, so i set it up to dual boot while she got used to it. But yesterday booting into ubuntu (normal or recovery) results in modprobe failing, and coming up with failed to mount /dev, /sys, /proc, and "Target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init." "No init found."
[06:02] <Vustom> Ubuntu, i need to make another sound device default in Ubuntu, like I did once before in Windows so i could hear my Xbox 360 sounds through my headphones.
[06:02] <thalass> As if it's been wiped or something.
[06:02] <gartral> shcherbak: msn.. good timing >.<
[06:02] <gartral> man*
[06:02] <shcherbak> gartral:what about just: gnome-panel ? or logout/login
[06:03] <gartral> shcherbak: this problem has persisted accross reboots
[06:03] <^NiNjA> Vustom,  not knowing particualrs on your system or your setup I would say to go into sound preferences and check your settings
[06:03] <gartral> shcherbak: somehow gnome-panal appeaars too have been uninstalled/corrupted
[06:03] <^NiNjA> make sure you have input output going to proper devices.
[06:03] <Vustom> ^NiNjA, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657593 describes my problem.
[06:03] <thalass> (Her ubuntu install was stock, using gnome instead of unity, and nothing installed except a couple of things. She only uses it as a netbook, nothing fancy)
[06:04] <benjamintheyon> Hello. I'm running 10.10 on a HP a6212n Desktop, and having trouble with Suspend. I've looked for help online, but not found much specific to my model or observed behavior. Additionally, I am running a PCIe NVIDIA card with the recommended proprietary drivers. Fresh Ubuntu install. Any takers?
[06:04] <^NiNjA> k, reading
[06:04] <hylian> gartral, that can happen. what does apt-get say about it? does it show it as installed?
[06:05] <omac> thalass: get out your live-CD.  then boot from it.  then carefully fsck your hard-drive from there..  When you reboot, it will fsck, then continue as normal.   Try that.
[06:05] <gartral> hylian: nope. i figured it out, it got removed when i tryed too remove evolution! i got if-up too connect, r4eset and download
[06:05] <thalass> thanks. will try that.
[06:05] <^NiNjA> Vustom,  may sound like im being picky but did you try the fix mentioned there?
[06:05] <piero> Hi! My home is encrypted. What I need to recover my files after I reinstall the system from stratch?
[06:05] <Vustom> I just found it like a second ago, trying it now.. :3
[06:05] <^NiNjA> ok cool
[06:05] <^NiNjA> Good luck
[06:06] <Vustom> I don't know what to turn up or down -_-
[06:06] <gartral> hylian shcherbak thank you both!
[06:06] <paq> I wish to send fax's from my computer, I see a telephone size jack beside my internet jack at the side of my laptop, does that mean I have a fax modem, how can I tell if I have a fax modem?
[06:06] <hylian> gartral, cool. i rip out most of that junk at install, so i set up a start up app with that "nautilus --no-default-window" command, otherwide i have no dekstop.
[06:07] <indy21> I installed Ubuntu 10.10 from Windows but it fails to boot
[06:07] <hylian> indy21, do you have 2 hard drives?
[06:07] <paq> indy21, looks like you didn't install it dude
[06:08] <Vustom> ^NiNjA now the sound on Ubuntu won't work at all -_-
[06:08] <benjamintheyon> Hello. I'm running 10.10 on a HP a6212n Desktop, and having trouble with Suspend. I've looked for help online, but not found much specific to my model or observed behavior. Additionally, I am running a PCIe NVIDIA card with the recommended proprietary drivers. Fresh Ubuntu install. Any takers?
[06:08] <gartral> hylian: yea. never remove evolution-data-server... that'swhat did it
[06:09] <^NiNjA> Vustom,  open sound preferences from the sound icon on top bar
[06:09] <paq> Vustom, I bet you that it is muted, just run alsamixer and turn up the volume
[06:09] <copypaste> Vustom: rofl welcome to linux i saw a chart about sound on linux it was like a maze yeah sound is really messed up just use your iPod
[06:09] <gartral> brb
[06:09] <paq> copypaste, huh, works fine dude
[06:10] <hylian> gartral, i just sudo apt-get remove evolution, but like i said after that, no more desktop without my little cheat.
[06:10] <^NiNjA> go to hardware tab, and see if it has a hardware listing for both your pc soundcard/chip and your xbox
[06:10] <[thor]> paq: maybe try checking the Software Center for "eFax-gtk"
[06:10] <copypaste> paq: http://www.indygo.de/misc/linux_audio.png
[06:10] <amitprakash> Hi. what is the keyboard shortcut to force reboot kernel when system is unresponsive?
[06:10] <hihihi1222> hihi
[06:11] <Vustom> ^NiNjA, it's open.
[06:11] <trey> Do you mean ctrl alt delete?
[06:11] <histo> amitprakash: ctrl+alt+del at terminal
[06:11] <omac> vustom: do you have pulseaudio installed?  if so then you can do a command like this:  padsp audacity  or padsp zynaddsubfx :)
[06:11] <paq> [thor], how do I know if I have a fax modem.  I have a telephone jack on my laptop, so I assume it is modem, but is it a fax modem?
[06:11] <benjamintheyon> Last try, I promise: Hello. I'm running 10.10 on a HP a6212n Desktop, and having trouble with Suspend. I've looked for help online, but not found much specific to my model or observed behavior. Additionally, I am running a PCIe NVIDIA card with the recommended proprietary drivers. Fresh Ubuntu install. Any takers?	
[06:12] <^NiNjA> Vustom,  your sound preferences / hardware has bot sound sources listed?
[06:12] <^NiNjA> "both" sorry
[06:12] <[thor]> paq: i'm not certain, but i'm sure trying to send a fax might tell you.
[06:12] <gartral_> hylian: ok, i'm back on my laptop, thank you again
[06:12] <hylian> am i the only person that rips out evolution, gwibber, empathy, excedera at install?
[06:12] <Vustom> has what.. i'm new to ubuntu remember *-*
[06:12] <paq> [thor], I'm not sure about the plug up either
[06:13] <^NiNjA> i understand man. NP
[06:13] <hylian> gartral,  glad to be a help, but you pretty much solved this one on your own.
[06:13] <[thor]> paq: phone and fax are the same jack size.. and there isn't another network cable that uses the same connector
[06:13] <omac> Vustom: ok...now click the menu System->Administration->Synaptics
[06:13] <^NiNjA> ok up top near the right end of the bar is a sound icon looks like a speaker
[06:14] <hylian> gartral, check this out: that's one uncluttered desktop! http://postimage.org/image/1dl88znyc/
[06:14] <^NiNjA> click on it then in the menu click on sound preferences
[06:14] <paq> [thor], yeah true, so I plug in from computer to the telephone somehow I guess
[06:14] <Vustom> Synaptic package Manager?
[06:14] <omac> Vustom: In Synaptics, click the search button on the far right...enter pulseaudio and then click ok.
[06:14] <^NiNjA> in the dialog window should have a tab called hardware
[06:14] <hyungrok> Hi, has anyone here had trouble with DrRacket in Unity? (#ubuntu+1 seems to have few people...)
[06:14] <omac> vustom: yes. Synaptic Package Manager.  It's going to be your best friend in Ubuntu :)
[06:15] <Vustom> now what?
[06:15] <eternicode> I have an interesting problem... I built a custom ubuntu desktop up from a base Ubuntu Server 10.10 install (currently updated to the latest 11.04 repos).  I have wdm, custom .xinitrc, compiz setup and working.  When I run "kdesudo <program>", though, (from yakuake/konsole), compiz freezes and goes to 100% CPU (one of my two cores at a time).  I can move my mouse, but my desktop (awn, any windows, etc) is unresponsive.  I
[06:15] <eternicode> essentially have to go to a virtual terminal and "pkill X" or "killall -9 compiz" (-15 does nothing).  Any ideas why it would do that?  Using gksudo seems to work alright.
[06:15] <FloodBot1> eternicode: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:15] <Vustom> omac: this describes my problem if you haven't read it already; http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=657593
[06:15]  * eternicode snickers at the bot
[06:15] <omac> vustome: do you see the search button on the far right?
[06:15] <Vustom> yeah
[06:15] <omac> ok.
[06:15] <Vustom> i searched for pulseaudio
[06:15] <hylian> Vustom, yeah synaptic is apt-get, but with a pretty window instead of the old black console.
[06:16] <omac> vustom:I'll read it.
[06:17] <gartral_> hylian: still you ans shcherbak pointed me in the right direction
[06:17] <Vustom> omac i'm currently in PulseAudio volume control
[06:18] <Vustom> and I'm at Input devices, the xbox 360 sounds come from Line-in, and when i press buttons with my xbox controller that sound bar goes up and down, but can't hear anything.
[06:18] <omac> Now if you don't hear anything from pulse, then the application isn't running through pulse.
[06:18] <Vustom> well the connection is using line-in
[06:19] <Vustom> so.. what now?
[06:19] <omac> vustom: go to the input tab in the pulse sound preferences.
[06:20] <Vustom> Input Devices?
[06:20] <omac> vustom: yes.
[06:20] <Vustom> i'm already there :p
[06:20] <[thor]> paq: computer directly into wall jackl
[06:20] <omac> how many connectors have you got?
[06:20] <soreau> Vustom: Run alsamixer in your terminal. Use arrow keys to navigate and m to (un)mute. Double check line-in
[06:21] <omac> vustom: if you have a funky sound card, you'll have lots of input connectors.
[06:21] <Vustom> and
[06:21] <Vustom> LifeCam (webcam..)
[06:21] <paq> [thor], true, but I only have 1 jack in my apartment, lol
[06:21] <omac> select the one you want to listen in from.
[06:21] <Vustom> Internal Audio Analog Stereo
[06:21] <audhi> omac how to connect to a wireless network(wi5) in ubuntu?
[06:21] <^NiNjA> sound preferences/hardware = see if your xbox sound device is listed. if so select each device and check the sound sliders in input/output for each respectively
[06:22] <omac> audhi: what have you got ?  what is the model wifi router?
[06:22] <audhi> answer toi my question.omac
[06:22] <[thor]> paq: most faxmodems will have a port for line input, as well as a port for phone connection
[06:22] <paq> [thor], oh, that means I don't have a fax modem
[06:22] <[thor]> paq: so you would plug the modem into the wall, and the phone into the computer
[06:22] <omac> audhi: I'm right here.
[06:23] <[thor]> paq: i am talking about dedicated cards.. you might have a faxmodem onboard,.
[06:23] <paq> [thor], my laptop on has one telephone plug and my desktop has none
[06:23] <audhi> bsnl modem omac
[06:23] <urgodfather> xust, did u try that driver?
[06:24] <gartral_> paq: many laptops' modem support fax
[06:24] <urgodfather> pksadiq, 7gb appears to be fine
[06:24] <audhi> do i have to install wireless driver in ubuntu. omac
[06:24] <^NiNjA> sounds like a software based telephony modem not hardware based
[06:24] <gartral_> ^NiNjA: ahh
[06:24] <[thor]> paq: just bite the bullet and give it a shot :D
[06:24] <paq> gardar, yeah, you are right, I am betting it has faxing service, but thing is my apartment only has one telephone jack, so how would I plug in the fax and phone
[06:24] <omac> vustom: I'm here. click the different connectors and make sure the levels are adequate for what you want.   Make sure they are clicked on also.  If the radio button is not clicked, it's not on as in input!!!
[06:25] <Vustom> what soreau said worked, but now i've stuffed up my sound for songbird ..
[06:25] <[thor]> paq: you won't be able to use the phone while the fax is in use anyhow... even if it is hooked up
[06:25] <Vustom> sound in firefox is working D:
[06:25] <paq> [thor], yeah true, ok let me try
[06:25] <^NiNjA> if software based won't (most of the time) have a extra plug to go out to phone
[06:25] <omac> audhi: http://en.kioskea.net/forum/affich-311073-bsnl-broadband-wifi-setup-teracom-modem
[06:25] <soreau> Vustom: At least you got that far ;)
[06:25] <^NiNjA> all telphony will be PC only
[06:26] <omac> audhi: open that page up.
[06:26] <omac> audhi: http://192.168.1.1
[06:26] <Bage> hello guys, i have a really wired problem, but not necessarily related to just ubuntu.
[06:26] <^NiNjA> you will need a telphone line splitter before the modem
[06:26] <Vustom> now sound is broken in ubuntu :'(
[06:26] <^NiNjA> one to phone, other to modem
[06:27] <Bage> My laptop (toshiba) keyboard works wonderfully with ubuntu but refused to work with windows 7. Any ideas?
[06:27] <[thor]> yeah, a line splitter will work out fine, but don't pick up the handset and whistle during a fax.. hehe
[06:27] <omac> Pulseaudio works well.  once the input is recognized and on in pulse, then some apps require you run them like this:  padsp gamix or something like that.
[06:28] <[thor]> Bage: sounds like par for the course
[06:28] <Bage> the keyboard only work when i boot into ubuntu. In windows or even in the booting level, it doesn't work
[06:28] <Vustom> i fixed it
[06:28] <Bage> [thor], mm... couldn't get you
[06:28] <Vustom> it went mute O.O
[06:28] <Vustom> :D:D:D!!! ty guys :)
[06:28] <omac> your welcome.  Cheers :)
[06:28] <^NiNjA> Bage,  with it not working in win7 best to go with windows tech support
[06:29] <Bage> ^NiNjA, i know, but wish to come to the friendly community first
[06:29] <omac> audhi: are you there?
[06:29] <^NiNjA> understood
[06:29] <^NiNjA> how old is ur laptop?
[06:29] <audhi> yes im here i am trying to connect omac
[06:29] <Bage> ^NiNjA, almost new
[06:29] <omac> can you see your router's web page?
[06:30] <Bage> [thor], you had something to say?
[06:30] <^NiNjA> my meaning being win7 is the new win on the block and they tend to be very obtuse regarding older hardware
[06:30] <^NiNjA> ok
[06:30] <Bruce_Wayne> Is there any way I can make rhythmbox visible on every workspace for permanent?
[06:30] <[thor]> Bage: probably just something disparaging toward micro$oft, carry on.
[06:30] <omac> audhi: can you see your bsnl router web page?
[06:30] <omac> audhi:  http://192.168.1.1
[06:30] <ohsix> Bruce_Wayne: you can use something like devilspie to set the property
[06:31] <audhi> yes i can see say the next step
[06:31] <Bruce_Wayne> ohsix: What's devilspie?
[06:31] <SniperViper76> can anyone help me?
[06:31] <^NiNjA> Well I would seriously consider going through your PC manufacturers help and or tech support first. I mean u paid for it with your pruchase
[06:31] <omac> user and password are the default:  "admin"
[06:31] <SniperViper76> I'm having trouble connecting to a server that i had no problems with yesterday.
[06:31] <audhi> yes ive typed
[06:31] <ohsix> Bruce_Wayne: the internet is a funny place for oddly specific names of things, or terms
[06:31] <omac> are you in?  Did you press ok.
[06:32] <Bage> ^NiNjA, sure, I will pay them a visit. Thanks
[06:32] <^NiNjA> with it only happening in windows, i would say its a corrupt driver or something like that
[06:32] <SniperViper76> I'm positive i spelled it right
[06:32] <audhi> ive pressed it omac
[06:32] <SniperViper76> it gives me the stupid message  Unknown host. Maybe you misspelled it?
[06:32] <^NiNjA> np sorry couldnt be more help
[06:32] <omac> There should be some wireless setup wizard.  Click on that.
[06:33] <SniperViper76> Guess not..
[06:33] <Bruce_Wayne> ohsix: Alright.. thanks
[06:33] <omac> audhi: what is the exact model and number of your bsnl router?
[06:33] <Fuzy> Hi i would like to know the command to mount and format a drive
[06:33] <Gando-san> sudo rm -rf /
[06:34] <Fuzy> nice try
[06:34] <omac> Fuzy:  you can do that through the gui.
[06:34] <pksadiq> !danger
[06:34] <audhi> residential router 1600 omac
[06:34] <Fuzy> well i looked and it dosent want to mount the dam thing and its frustrating
[06:34] <soreau> Fuzy: mount and format a drive? Can you be more specific? What device is it?
[06:35] <omac> Fuzy:  Click the menu System->Administration->Disk Utility.  You'll find what you need there.
[06:35] <urgodfather> pksadiq, did you get the last message i sent? sorry i had to reboot so i didnt see your response if so
[06:35] <Gando-san> Try writing a VB GUI to track down the killer's IP.
[06:35] <ohsix> Fuzy: you can't format a drive thats mounted anyways, but yea, use the disk utility like omac says; if your drive is damaged and you want to figure out how to make it mount, that's another question
[06:35] <ohsix> Gando-san: trolling is offtopic on freenode
[06:35] <audhi> next step please
[06:36] <Gando-san> sure is mad in here
[06:36] <pksadiq> urgodfather: which?
[06:36] <urgodfather> pksadiq. about the 7gb appearing to be fine
[06:37] <Nicd^> Finnish company Duo Product using Ubuntu logo as their own, where should I send a note about this? :) http://www.duoproduct.com/
[06:37] <pksadiq> urgodfather: k, so any problem installing?
[06:37] <audhi> omac are you here
[06:38] <omac> audhi: yeah
[06:38] <audhi> say next step then
[06:38] <omac> I'm looking for that manual to step you through.  a pdf one.
[06:38] <omac> what do you see?
[06:38] <urgodfather> pksadiq: nope, all went smooth... putting the finishing touches right now
[06:38] <urgodfather> :)
[06:39] <xeghia> Is there a common fault/problem with 10.10 Desktop amd64 where Gparted crashes and the Installer crashes when you click next on the first screen?
[06:39] <omac> Audhi: Is it the BSNL Nokia Siemens Residential Router 1600?
[06:39] <audhi> yeah omac
[06:39] <jgcampbell300> could anyone help me get my bluetooth keyboard to work on ubuntu 10.10
[06:39] <ohsix> xeghia: when the livecd is booting hold shift, pick check disk for errors
[06:40] <ohsix> xeghia: also check the md5sum of the iso you burned
[06:40] <xeghia> i'm thinking more kernel bug or something than that, but good point, i'll check.
[06:41] <xeghia> disk is ok, brand new motherboard though
[06:41] <audhi> omac say the next step
[06:41] <audhi> please.
[06:41] <audhi> say
[06:41] <audhi> say
[06:41] <audhi> say
[06:41] <omac> Look under your router, and tell me the name of the web site for the company BSNL.
[06:42] <omac> I'm still looking for the manual for your model.
[06:42]  * urgodfather is rebooting for the last time :)
[06:42] <addi> uh, BSNL is a service provider, not sure they have a proper site for their routers..
[06:43] <omac> audhi:  found it the manual:   http://www.edocfind.com/download/ebook/SL2-141SL2-141-I%20ADSL%20Router%20User&39;s%20Manual/aHR0cDovL3d3dy5pYWQuY3ovcHJlei9BRFNMX1NMMi0xNDFfVXNlcl9NYW51YWwucGRm
[06:43] <omac> audhi: go get it.
[06:44] <thalass> Thanks, omac. It seems to boot now, though a bit reluctantly. It still spits out something about modprobe having a fatal error. But it's updating now and i can't remember the exact error haha.
[06:45] <audhi> thanks omac.
[06:45] <omac> Your welcom.
[06:45] <omac> audhi: page 50
[06:45]  * urgodfather is finished
[06:45] <omac> audhi: go to "Configuration...step 2".
[06:45] <omac> You're welcome thalass.
[06:46] <omac> You're welcome audhi.
[06:46]  * urgodfather must have definitely set a record on install and setup :)
[06:46] <tayyabali> hi all i am first time logged into this IRC that to using Pidgin
[06:47] <soreau> hello tayyabali
[06:47] <omac> congrats tayyabali!
[06:47] <urgodfather> nice
[06:47] <tayyabali> thanks
[06:47] <soreau> omac: Yours was better, more excitement
[06:47] <urgodfather> but why use pidgin?
[06:48] <urgodfather> i use chatzilla
[06:48] <soreau> Why use chatzilla?
[06:48] <omac> Because pidgin is better than empathy quite simply :)
[06:48] <soreau> I use xchat
[06:48] <tayyabali> i dont know it easy to use
[06:48] <omac> xchat is awesome too.
[06:48] <urgodfather> i used xchat, didnt like it
[06:48] <omac> pidgin plugins are cool if you care to look.
[06:48] <urgodfather> i like how chatzilla makes a tab for if someone says my name
[06:49] <omac> pidgin does the same thing.
[06:49] <jgcampbell300> !bluetooth
[06:49] <soreau> urgodfather: I bet no one likes how your name is misspelled and weird
[06:49] <Jon--> Is there a way to make ALT+TAB behave with similar sizes on all types of windows instead of attempting to preview certain ones?
[06:49] <Jon--> I dislike the way there's super large icons with super small ones
[06:49] <urgodfather> soreau, who asked you
[06:50] <zetheroo> I cannot burn any CD's or DVD's suddenly  - pls help
[06:50] <urgodfather> soreau, theres no need for insults
[06:50] <pksadiq> And my suggestion too, irssi for IRC
[06:50] <omac> jgcampbell300:  bluez :)
[06:50] <egarff> !ot
[06:50] <soreau> urgodfather: ur weird. Might as well /nick imweird
[06:50] <soreau> at least its less misspelled that way
[06:50] <omac> and it will also install blueman :)
[06:51] <omac> zetheroo:  buy more CD's and DVD's :)
[06:51] <tayyabali> heeeeee i am new to this guide me how to use this ? what we exactly do here ?
[06:51] <jgcampbell300> !bluez
[06:51] <soreau> tayyabali: This is the official support channel for ubuntu
[06:51] <zetheroo> omac: harhar
[06:52] <tayyabali> i am using ubuntu from last one year
[06:52] <soreau_is_gay> hi my name is soreau
[06:52] <zubin71> hey, anyone here running ubuntu on mac hardware? if so, hows your experience in terms of performance? hows the battery life etc?
[06:52] <soreau_is_gay> im gay
[06:52] <soreau> lol
[06:52] <tayyabali> hi gay
[06:52] <egarff> soreau_is_gay: seriously?
[06:52] <zetheroo> ha ... soreau_is_gay ... your point being?
[06:52] <soreau_is_gay> i like to sit in a chat and insult people
[06:52] <Gando-san> >using gay as an insult
[06:52] <Gando-san> >2011
[06:52] <egarff> soreau_is_gay: are you 6?
[06:52] <zetheroo> another one bites the dust
[06:52] <soreau> xD
[06:53] <omac> zetheroo: it might be that you are burning your CD's DVD's too quickly.  Are you using brasero...the tool in Nautilus.
[06:53] <kevin6888296> maybe there should be #ubuntu-build-character
[06:53] <zubin71> no ubuntu mac users here? :/
[06:53] <zubin71> none at all?
[06:53] <egarff> zubin71: What was your question?
[06:53] <tayyabali> no
[06:53] <zubin71> egarff: already asked
[06:54] <zetheroo> omac: here is the thing ... since 2006 I have never had an issue burning disks in Ubuntu ... and I have burned probably well over 100 ... so yeah ... this is just wierd
[06:54] <zubin71> "hey, anyone here running ubuntu on mac hardware? if so, hows your experience in terms of performance? hows the battery life etc?"
[06:54] <frold> why will tasksel not install on my ubuntu? any changes I need to do? I just see the status bar - but it doesnt count up.. after 10 sec the window close...
[06:54] <egarff> ahh.... can't help you there, I run ubuntu on my PC hardware, and OSX on my mac.
[06:54] <zetheroo> omac: I have been using Brasero and K3B ... never had an issue with either
[06:54] <zubin71> aah, okies
[06:54] <jgcampbell300> !blueman
[06:54] <egarff> zubin71: I would expect you'd have worse battery life, OSX does a lot of 'nerfing' to get the long life out of it.
[06:55] <zetheroo> omac: suddenly it's gone belly-up ... permissions look strange and I get some SCSI error etc
[06:55] <egarff> zubin71: But I would bet that you'd see better performance.
[06:55] <zubin71> egarff: hmm, i see
[06:55] <egarff> zubin71: Don't get me wrong, I like my OSX machine, but well, there are definitely performance differences.
[06:55] <zubin71> egarff: yeah i understand
[06:56] <egarff> zubin71: one of these days I'll dual boot my macbook pro
[06:56] <zubin71> egarff: im seriously considering doing that, but wanted to ask around for a few reviews before doing that
[06:56] <Gando-san> >macbook
[06:56] <zubin71> egarff: what i miss the most is apt-get!
[06:56] <omac> zetheroo:  I am certain your hard-drive is dying.
[06:56] <egarff> zubin71: sorry I couldn't help more.
[06:57] <zubin71> apt-get is just so awesome
[06:57] <egarff> zubin71: macports
[06:57] <zubin71> egarff: thanks for trying! :)
[06:57] <zetheroo> omac: yeah, not likely - ha
[06:57] <egarff> zubin71: not perfect, but similar.
[06:57] <omac> zetheroo: it could also be that your internal motherboard to hard-drive cable is loose.
[06:57] <zubin71> egarff: aah, i dont really like macports.. ive tried that
[06:57] <addi> hmmm, seems I'm not the only one who loves apt-get, even though I used Ubuntu for just a month ^^
[06:57] <weaselkeeper> I set up the work laptop (mbook pro) with ubuntu as dual boot, but I never boot the osx install. Thinking I might dump it,
[06:57] <egarff> zubin71: really?  I dig it.
[06:57] <zubin71> oh!
[06:57] <zetheroo> omac: how about Linux just f-ing up!?
[06:57] <Syria> Hello there, please tell me what do to if i want to install gnome3 on my 10.10 meerkat
[06:57] <omac> zetheroo: turn off your computer, open it up, make sure the cable ends are well-seated into both the motherboard and the hard drive.
[06:57] <egarff> apt-get is awesome.
[06:57] <zetheroo> :D
[06:57] <audhi> omac i tried but its not comming
[06:58] <zetheroo> omac: this is a laptop ... and everything is where it should be ;)
[06:58] <omac> zetheroo:  possible, but highly improbable if the hard-drive is newer than 2years.
[06:58] <zubin71> egarff: yeah after apt-get, macports felt really horrible. so i just started resorting to manual building :D
[06:58] <audhi> omac say any idea
[06:58] <omac> zetheroo: every hard drive comes with a one-year warranty, but engineered to last two.
[06:58] <weaselkeeper> Here Syria, let me google that for you http://digitizor.com/2011/04/07/install-gnome3-desktop-ubuntu/
[06:58] <egarff> zubin71: heh... might be that I used to be a gentoo person, so it's kind of like portage, which I also liked.
[06:59] <zetheroo> omac: I don't understand ... how would you jump to the conclusion that my hdd is "dying"? Sounds a bit drastic.
[06:59] <egarff> Like apt and portage, hate rpm/yum.
[06:59] <Syria> weaselkeeper: It did not work, I have tried installing it using that article exactly but I got a message telling me that package gnome3-desktop can not be located.
[06:59] <egarff> which is funny since I administer 300+ redhat/centos boxes.
[07:00] <audhi> are you here omac?
[07:00] <zubin71> egarff: havent tried portage, yeah yum is pretty bad
[07:00] <zubin71> egarff: haha
[07:00] <omac> audhi: yes.
[07:00] <egarff> zubin71: we run our own repos though.
[07:00] <ayecee> zetheroo: from what i'm seeing, it looks like the error is coming from your burner, no?
[07:00] <audhi> then say the next step omac
[07:00] <weaselkeeper> yum is ok, but it's not apt,
[07:00] <zubin71> egarff: so how often do you update your packages?
[07:00] <ZanQdo> I have an issue with 10.10 and my aspire one, wireless stopped working :s
[07:00] <zubin71> egarff: in the repo i.e.
[07:00] <egarff> zubin71: at work or at home?
[07:01] <ZanQdo> i cant enable it properly
[07:01] <benjamintheyon> My wireless chipset is BCM4321. I've been having trouble with the driver provided in "Additional Drivers" - it causes Suspend to fail. Does anyone have suggestions for alternative drivers for this chipset?
[07:01] <egarff> zubin71: ahh.... not often.
[07:01] <zubin71> egarff: @ work
[07:01] <omac> zetheroo, when you get SCSI ERRORS, that's not a good sign.
[07:01] <zetheroo> ayecee: I have no idea "where" it's coming from ...
[07:01] <ayecee> benjamintheyon: ndiswrapper would be the only alternative.
[07:01] <omac> SCSI WARNINGS are ok.
[07:01] <zubin71> egarff: ok
[07:01] <audhi> omac say
[07:01] <egarff> zubin71: It's a live web environment and we don't mess with it if we don't have to.
[07:01] <milamber> !broadcom | benjamintheyon
[07:01] <ayecee> zetheroo: you get the error only when burning, right?
[07:01] <zubin71> hmm i see
[07:01] <Syria> I am trying to isntall gnome3 but I got this message in the terminal: E: Unable to locate package gnome-desktop3
[07:01] <egarff> zubin71: more often than not, only for security patches.
[07:01] <zetheroo> omac: I have seen threads regarding SCSI errors where config files are at fault ...
[07:01] <benjamintheyon> ayecee, milamber: thanks
[07:02] <milamber> Syria: what version of ubuntu?
[07:02] <weaselkeeper> Syria: did you add the repo, and do a sudo apt-get update?
[07:02] <zetheroo> ayecee: yeah ... I don't really use the optical drive for anything else
[07:02] <Syria> milamber: 10.10 Meerkat
[07:02] <zubin71> egarff: i see... well, lemme go try out ubuntu on the mac then! thanks! have a nice day!
[07:02] <egarff> zubin71: you too!
[07:03] <milamber> Syria: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[07:03] <ayecee> zetheroo: okay, so it's likely the error is coming from the burner. It seems to say that the head was commanded to move somewhere and failed to do so.
[07:03] <omac> System->Preferences->Assistive Technologies->turn off Visual Bell.
[07:03] <zetheroo> ayecee: which error are you looking at
[07:03] <zetheroo> ?
[07:03] <Syria> milamber:  I think that I have tried installing it using natty tutorials !! sorry and thank you.
[07:04] <milamber> Syria: no problem, report back w/ success and/or other issues :)
[07:04] <ayecee> zetheroo: the spindle servo failure. oops, I'm wrong about that.. it's the spindle, not the head, but same idea.
[07:04] <omac> zetheroo: ok. yes. config files....but if your system was running and stopped running, then....PROBLEM. and it usually isn't config.
[07:04] <zetheroo> ayecee: this is the error I get .... Session error : SCSI error on write(45168,16): [4 09 03] Spindle servo failure (brasero_burn_record brasero-burn.c:2862)
[07:05] <omac> zetheroo: your CD BURNER DIED.
[07:05] <ayecee> it certainly sounds like that
[07:05] <audhi> omac can we install windows softwares in ubuntu?
[07:05] <ruan> !wine
[07:05] <robot_> how to find out on which partition Ubuntu installed
[07:05] <ruan> audhi: yes.
[07:05] <omac> audhi: go talk to someone else aobut windows.  I don't support windows in any way shape or form :)
[07:05] <ruan> robot_: sudo fdisk -l
[07:05] <zetheroo> omac: I think I will install Windows 7 and try it there ... I highly doubt it died ... have not burned much on this laptop ... maybe 20 or so ..
[07:06] <Syria> milamber: I got the same message: E: Unable to locate package gnome-desktop3
[07:06] <Syria>  >>> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592009/
[07:06] <robot_> ruan: thanks
[07:06] <audhi> how ruan is there any software?
[07:06] <zetheroo> omac: could it be the disks I am using?
[07:06] <rekenber> umm, can anyone help me?
[07:06] <milamber> Syria: try sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:06] <ayecee> !ask | rekenber
[07:07] <ruan> is it safe to install gnome3-session in maverick?
[07:07] <rekenber> how to enable newotking of nm-applet? running git GNOME-Shell
[07:07] <milamber> ruan: it is a ppa and this person knows it is a ppa and is following this tutorial http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/11/install-vanilla-gnome-3-in-maverick/
[07:07] <audhi> say the software name to install windows applications in ubuntu
[07:07] <^NiNjA> safe as in stable? no not generally
[07:07] <[deXter]> audhi: wine
[07:07] <ruan> milamber: that's an old tutorial
[07:08] <randal> hi I need some help im trying to navigate with terminal and im trying to use the ls command but it doesent do anything what do i need to type in terminal to show me what files im looking at thanks
[07:08] <omac> zetheroo: no.  It might be a cable connected to the disk burner being detached slightly.  It can also report an error like that if the CD is improperly inserted into the burner and gets stuck.  BUT SERVO CONTROL means...the robot arm failed died kaput.
[07:08] <randal> hi I need some help im trying to navigate with terminal and im trying to use the ls command but it doesent do anything what do i need to type in terminal to show me what files im looking at thanks
[07:08] <bullgard4> ruan: No.
[07:08] <danielcg25> I'm on m new mac
[07:08] <danielcg25> :D
[07:08] <ayecee> omac: spindle servo control. more likely it didn't get up to the speed that was requested, or something like that.
[07:09] <omac> ayecee: ok...
[07:09] <ayecee> rekenber: that's kind of a long shot here, I think.
[07:09] <seekwill> Hi. I'm running 10.04.2 LTS and I can't seem to find the fail2ban package... any ideas?
[07:09] <ayecee> seekwill: what have you tried?
[07:09] <omac> ayecee: yes...
[07:09] <kevin6888296> does gnome-disk-utility use it's own api to mark bad sectors or does it use fsck?
[07:09] <audhi> omac i am now using ubuntu 11.04 what are the new features in it
[07:09] <^NiNjA> randal,  go here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal
[07:09] <seekwill> ayecee: aptitude search fail2ban, aptitude install fail2ban ?
[07:09] <rekenber> thanks anyway :P
[07:10] <milamber> ruan: gnome3-session is in the repos for maverick: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=gnome3&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[07:10] <ayecee> !find fail2ban
[07:10] <bullgard4> randal: What is the result if you type 'ls' (and Enter at the end)?
[07:10] <seekwill> wfong@connection:~$ sudo aptitude show fail2ban
[07:10] <seekwill> E: Unable to locate package fail2ban
[07:10] <robot_> ruan: it shows partition table but does not shows where Ubuntu is. I have Linux Mint also in my system and need to delete it. It shows as Linux every where
[07:10] <ruan> milamber: yeah i installed it
[07:10] <weaselkeeper> Syria: looks like your config is ignoring the gnome-desktop3 repository.
[07:10] <audhi> omac shall i ask a doubt about ubuntu to you?
[07:10] <ayecee> seekwill: apt-get update, maybe?
[07:10] <randal> bullgard4, root@randal-1008HA:~# ls
[07:10] <randal> root@randal-1008HA:~#
[07:10] <randal>   Its werid i am on 11.04 tho
[07:10] <ruan> robot_: oh. it shows the size of partitions though
[07:11] <omac> zetheroo:  one more thing...the kind of DVD's there are many speeds that you can buy.  It's possible you bought a type that's actually too fast for your burner.  Weird, but it's possible.
[07:11] <seekwill> ayecee: Hmm... that didn't help :/
[07:11] <zetheroo> omac: do you know how to disable DMA on the drive?
[07:11] <omac> audhi: what is it.
[07:11] <Syria> weaselkeeper:  Can I fix this?
[07:11] <omac> hdparm
[07:11] <robot_> ruan: yes but I am not sure about the size of Ubuntu
[07:11] <audhi> how to join to two partions  in ubuntu?
[07:11] <ayecee> seekwill: do you have the universe repository enabled?
[07:11] <audhi> omac
[07:11] <milamber> seekwill: it doesn't seem like fail2ban is available for lucid: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=fail2ban&suite=default&section=all&arch=any&searchon=names
[07:11] <omac> how to say no way.  you can but at your risk.
[07:12] <milamber> seekwill: scratch that
[07:12] <milamber> !info fail2ban lucid
[07:12] <seekwill> ayecee: oh... maybe.
[07:12] <bullgard4> randal: Your problem seems to be related to 11.04. Please ask the same question in the #ubuntu+1 channel.
[07:12] <audhi> ok omac
[07:12] <hylian> ubottu | gnome 3
[07:12] <seekwill> This is on a VPS. Maybe they did something I didn't know about :/
[07:12] <viper> салам
[07:12] <viper> пацаны
[07:12] <FloodBot1> viper: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:12] <randal> bullgard4, thanks probly just because it beta
[07:12] <audhi> how to change login screen in ubuntu omac
[07:13] <Guest53044> hello
[07:13] <bullgard4> randal: Yes that could be.
[07:13] <Syria> milamber: I have isntalled this, sudo apt-get install gnome3-session
[07:13] <omac> ctrl-alt f1-f6...
[07:13] <acanthus> hello
[07:13] <hylian> anyone know if I can download and try out gnome 3, I know it's still beta, just wondering...??
[07:13] <milamber> Syria: have you logged out and back in
[07:13] <milamber> ?
[07:13] <ayecee> hylian: who's going to stop you?
[07:13] <kevin6888296> why aren't you all in your local team channels asking questions?
[07:14] <kevin6888296> http://loco.ubuntu.com ?
[07:14] <kevin6888296> amirite?
[07:14] <omac> byu somehing is a console tool.
[07:14] <ayecee> kevin6888296: who are you talking to?
[07:14] <bullgard4> hylian: You can download and install the package normally in Natty.
[07:14] <kevin6888296> ayecee: ya'll
[07:14] <omac> it was present recently in austin texas. probably worth checking out.
[07:15] <seekwill> Yep, that was it. This VPS didn't have the universe enabled :) Thanks!
[07:15] <hylian> mayeb my question then should be what is the package called? i searched for gnome3, gnome 3, got nothing (in synaptic)
[07:15] <ayecee> kevin6888296: that's a good point, thanks for the link
[07:15] <milamber> hylian: what version of ubuntu?
[07:15] <shcherbak> hylian: There is ppa gnome3 for natty
[07:16] <omac> hylian...gnome 3 is not in the ubuntu main repo.  It's a ppa...google gnome 3 ppa. and add that to your synaptic package manager.
[07:16] <audhi> omac  please the idea to connect to a wireless network in ubuntu i tried the manual you gave but it is not working.omac please any otherway
[07:16] <bullgard4> hylian: The name of the package is "gnome3-session".
[07:16] <audhi> please say omac
[07:16] <hylian> i'm using 10.10, meerkat
[07:16] <hylian> bullgard4, danke!
[07:16] <omac> audhi:  do you have your wifi router setup and connecting to the internet yes or no?
[07:16] <milamber> !info gnome3-session maverick
[07:16] <omac> audhi:  then from your linux box, just go dhclient :) voila :)
[07:17] <audhi> yes i have omac.
[07:17] <hylian> thanks for the info people! many thanks!
[07:17] <audhi> what is dhclient:) omac
[07:18] <danielcg25> Is it possible to multiboot Windows 7, MacOS, and Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[07:18] <zetheroo> omac: disabling DMA did the trick it seems
[07:18] <danielcg25> (2011 model, just bought it today)
[07:18] <kevin6888296> no prob ayecee, i should do it more often
[07:18] <omac> audhi:  click Applications->accessories->terminal....from there enter "dhclient"  and press enter.
[07:18] <weaselkeeper> danielcg25: yes, at least to the linux/osx bit. No experience w win7
[07:19] <ljsoftnet> danielcg25 i think its possible
[07:19] <omac> zetheroo: wow!
[07:19] <zetheroo> omac: burning to DVD at x4
[07:19] <danielcg25> ok, thanks
[07:19] <milamber> kevin6888296: no loco team for my specific area, and it seems like there would be a lot of duplication of effort.
[07:19] <omac> zetheroo: congrats.
[07:19] <ropes> @danielcg25: I know it's possible, but not sure how
[07:19] <McLinux> oh yes.. mclinux is back
[07:19] <zetheroo> omac: so now without DMA ... what other issues am I going to have?
[07:19] <danielcg25> Thanks
[07:19] <weaselkeeper> danielcg25: I did it by installing refit on OSX, using that as the bootloader, and chaining to grub on the Linux side. Google should provide the details
[07:20] <danielcg25> Alright, :)
[07:20] <weaselkeeper> I think you can do it with grub2 and no need for refit, but haven't tried that yet
[07:20] <kevin6888296> milamber: there's already a lot of duplication of effort
[07:20] <McLinux> how does mactel drivers do with linux ?
[07:20] <McLinux> er-- i mean with macbook pro
[07:20] <kevin6888296> perhaps a discussion better suited for #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:20] <audhi> omac it is coming permission denied what should i do
[07:20] <omac> zetheroo: no issues.  It's just that your hard-drive might not be as fast, but on a laptop, it might not be as noticeable.
[07:20] <McLinux> i have a macbook pro iw ould love nothing more than to run linux and get that battery life
[07:20] <milamber> kevin6888296: agreed
[07:20] <omac> audhi: I knew that...sudo bash.
[07:20] <weaselkeeper> I don't have wireless working on the macbook pro though, I haven't bothered trying, but it takes ndiswrapper, and that breaks suspend.
[07:20] <omac> then try again :)
[07:20] <zetheroo> omac: I only disabled DMA for the cdrom .. no?
[07:21] <omac> if you only disabled it for the cdrom. that's wonderful.
[07:21] <audhi> what is sudo bash omac
[07:21] <Syria> milamber:  It works! thank you. :)
[07:21] <zetheroo> omac: is there a way to check what is and is not using DMA?
[07:21] <milamber> Syria: np
[07:21] <omac> I've never changed it for the cdrom...just the harddrive...hdparm ...hd get it?  :)
[07:21] <McLinux> sudo bash = super dummy omni bash
[07:22] <Syria> milamber: I am trying to change the visual effects but there is a message telling me that it can't be changed because mutter is running!
[07:22] <audhi> what should i do next
[07:22] <audhi> omac
[07:22] <omac> dhclient
[07:22] <omac> that's it.
[07:23] <omac> you should see magic pass by and your wireless will get detected if all goes well and assign you an ip address.
[07:23] <zetheroo> omac: oh ... well I edited the hdparm.conf file ...
[07:23] <Magi_afk> http://hackers.hopto.org
[07:23] <omac> zetheroo: yeah...that's what I thought.
[07:23] <zetheroo> omac: http://paste.ubuntu.com/592011/
[07:24] <zetheroo> omac: it seems like dma is not even on for the HDD
[07:24] <audhi> say any idea omac
[07:24] <omac> zetheroo:  I'm just happy the cdrom is working for you.  I'm learning something from you tonight.
[07:24] <wacheng> 嘿嘿，
[07:24] <milamber> Syria: the session is only shipping w/ core components right now.
[07:24] <hylian> I think i see canonical's problem. gnome 3 sucks. Unity was their only option. which also sucks. I think I am gonna be a xfce man from now on.
[07:24] <zetheroo> omac: I am happy for that too ... I am just wondering now if I should turn dma on for the HDD ...
[07:24] <omac> very cool.
[07:24] <omac> never new that.
[07:24] <zetheroo> omac: or am I reading that file wrong!?
[07:25] <omac> f@#$ yea
[07:25] <maco> omac: obfuscated swearing is still swearing
[07:25] <Syria> milamber: And how can I install the full gnome3?
[07:25] <omac> I apologize for that.
[07:25] <omac> won't do it again.
[07:25] <milamber> Syria: not available yet. see !latest
[07:26] <hylian> Can anyone tell me what their choice for a gui would be, not including gnome?
[07:26] <zetheroo> omac: was that a "f@#$ yea" to enabling DMA?
[07:26] <omac> correction: emphatically yes do turn on dma.  It will gain speed in most situations.  I'm not certain if this setting is still used with the new SDD drives.
[07:26] <audhi> i think you dont know how toconnect to a wireless network omac.
[07:26] <omac> zetheroo: yes.
[07:26] <zetheroo> omac: haha ok
[07:26] <Abhijit> hi
[07:26] <omac> audhi: the dhclient didn't work for you.  that's sad.
[07:27] <Abhijit> gcc -Wall -g helloworld.c -o helloworld `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` \ `pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0` giving me error gcc:  -pthread: No such file or directory
[07:27] <hylian> Abhijit, hello
[07:27] <Abhijit> help
[07:27] <omac> iwconfig
[07:27] <omac> audhi: check out iwconfig
[07:27] <Abhijit> hi hylian
[07:27] <ohsix> omac: unless you're using no encryption or wep; the process is a lot more involved
[07:28] <ohsix> it involves 802.11x and a supplicant
[07:28] <omac> if you use wifi enable wpa 2.
[07:28] <dazappa> when I try to run the 11.04 installer, it gives "ubi-partman failed with exit code 141"
[07:28] <omac> audhi:  read about iwconfig and wpa2
[07:28] <dazappa> the only references to this I can find are supposedly fixed bus
[07:28] <omac> good night.  It's 2:30am here.
[07:29] <milamber> dazappa: natty support in ubuntu+1
[07:29] <dazappa> thanks
[07:29] <Abhijit> gcc -Wall -g helloworld.c -o helloworld `pkg-config --cflags gtk+-2.0` \ `pkg-config --libs gtk+-2.0` giving me error gcc:  -pthread: No such file or directory
[07:29] <hylian> can someone point me in a direction other than gnome for a gui? i know about xfce4, etc, blackbox, openbox, what else is good? I hate kde with a passion...
[07:29] <omac> Abhijit:  install libpthread
[07:30] <milamber> !gui
[07:30] <omac> omac: libpthread-dev
[07:30] <audhi> omac it is coming no wireless extensions say any idea
[07:30] <mr_orange> I cant find a program in the ubuntu software center and i want to uninstall it how do i do that
[07:30] <milamber> hylian: that wasn't what i wanted. there's ratpoison
[07:30] <ohsix> omac: there is also a -pthread option, it wouldn't say no such file or directory
[07:30] <ohsix> omac: something is wrong with the invocation
[07:30] <omac> audhi: you need to have a wireless device...do you have a wifi device installed in your computer or a wifi usb adapter?
[07:31] <weaselkeeper> mr_orange: what's the program?
[07:31] <Abhijit> omac, there is libptrehad-stub0 and libphtread-stub0-dev and both are installed
[07:31] <mr_orange> weaselkeeper, mtop
[07:31] <Abhijit> omac, or you maco?
[07:31] <ohsix> hylian: they're all the same, the differences are in how windows are managed and stuff like the panel; if you hate gnome and kde you probably won't be satisfied with any of them
[07:31] <weaselkeeper> mr_orange:  sudo apt-get remove mtop
[07:31] <maco> Abhijit: what what?
[07:31] <mr_orange> weaselkeeper, thank you
[07:31] <weaselkeeper> np
[07:31] <Abhijit> maco, i thouth omac is you!!! :-
[07:31] <Abhijit> :-p
[07:31] <omac> Abhijit: listen to me.....you are missing the file libpthread.a/.so...in order to get the developer include files along with the libs, you need to install libpthread and libpthread-dev
[07:31] <maco> Abhijit: no
[07:31] <omac> do it.
[07:32] <Abhijit> maco, okay!
[07:32] <Abhijit> omac, how?
[07:32] <hylian> ohsix, well that statement is far from true, but thank you anyways. gnome is nothing like kde, which is nothing like xfce, for example. that's like saying all vehicles are the same... they aren;t.
[07:32] <omac> apt-get install ...whatever
[07:32] <mr_orange> weaselkeeper, it is giving me an error
[07:32] <omac> sudo apt-get install libpthread libpthread-dev
[07:33] <Abhijit> omac, E: Couldn't find package libpthread
[07:33] <admin2_> هل هناك أحد يتحدث العربية ؟
[07:33] <omac> search and you shall find.
[07:33] <hylian> milamber, ratpoison, hmm, ill have to look that one up, thank you.
[07:33] <omac> but you got the gist.
[07:33] <Syria> admin2_:  نعم؟
[07:33] <ohsix> hylian: you misunderstand, you are asking for the accoutrement; not the environment, the practical difference are the widgets/applets and you can use them in any environment
[07:33] <milamber> hylian: it's no-mouse centric
 أحمد يارب :(
[07:33] <Abhijit> omac, i searched. its not ther ein synaptic
[07:33] <admin2_> :)
[07:34] <admin2_> مانمتش من امبارح
[07:34] <omac> libpthread-stubs0 yes.
[07:34] <omac> and the dev too.
[07:34] <omac> you need both.
[07:34] <hylian> ohsix, true, i guess. the feel is different. how it helps me accomplish my daily tasks is different. I think I am gonna go the xfce4 route simply because it is very gnome 2 ish.
[07:34] <ohsix> hylian: "gnome" "kde" and anything that could be classified the same is simply a grouping of these bits, so if you don't like one assembly, one you can remove or change the bits you don't like; you probably aren't going to find another collection of widgets someone else prefers acceptable
[07:34] <Abhijit> omac, i have both already installed
[07:34] <admin2_> بسبب برنامج Tvheadend
[07:35] <admin2_> Syria ؟
[07:35] <milamber> !arabic | admin2_
[07:35] <mr_orange> I am trying to uninstall a program but when i use sudo apt-get remove 'program' I get an error that says access denied.
[07:35] <ohsix> hylian: gnome is still very gnome 2 ish, the practical differences are very low (gnome 3 notwithstanding, but you can use a classic session without gnome-shell)
[07:35] <hylian> ohsix, i think i will. what i don't like is the unity type gui. xfce4 still feels like gnome 2. gnome 3 is practically unity's dopple ganger.
[07:36] <toshiba> give me a chinese channel
[07:36] <ohsix> hylian: gnome-shell was out of the gate first, shrug
[07:36]  * weaselkeeper is starting to miss FVWM2
[07:36] <omac> Abhijit: try this one. with the dev   libpth20
[07:36] <ohsix> just use the classic sessions and get your panels and all that fun stuff
[07:36] <[thor]> toshiba: /join #ubuntu-cn
[07:36] <admin2_> ubottu لا يوجد بها أحد
[07:36] <GangsteR> hola   tengo un problema  yo trabajo con autop play media studio 8 como ago para q se puedan ejecutar en linux
[07:36] <admin2_> انا اريد تشغيل برنامج Tvheadend
[07:37] <mr_orange> I am trying to uninstall a program but when i use sudo apt-get remove 'program' I get an error that says access denied for user 'root@localhost'.
[07:37] <Abhijit> omac, trying
[07:37] <hylian> ohsix, i think our problem is i don't get my thoughts across very clearly, my bad. I don't like where the "prettier, newer" gui's are going. I am happy with something a kin to windows 2000, plain and extremely functional. i don't need pretty, or different.
[07:37] <ohsix> hylian: netbooks and cheap laptops are really suited for unity and gnome-shell; and more people are going to be owning them, so it makes sense to  have them, but the classic sessions are still there
[07:37] <Syria> admin2_: والله ما بعرف اشتغل عليه!
[07:38] <Abhijit> omac, no luck. still same error. anyway leave it. thank you for your time.
[07:38] <omac> what exactly is the error:
[07:38] <admin2_> Syria  هل هناك برنامج بديل له ؟
[07:38] <hylian> ohsix, i bought one. the very first thing i did is use apt-get to remove unity. my netbook is way more functional now, and faster. old gnome is where it's at.
[07:38] <FrankLv> can i alter apt-get install target path? it's a huge packge
[07:38] <Abhijit> omac, gcc: helloworld.c: No such file or directory gcc:  -pthread: No such file or directory
[07:39]  * hylian is running gnome 3 now, and hating it.
[07:39] <ohsix> hylian: that's great, but besides the point; and you didn't need to remove it to use the other desktop sessions, it's just a plugin for compiz and glue
[07:39] <omac> Abhijit...pastebin the helloworld.c along with the command or makefile.
[07:39] <omac> is it just a helloworld. gcc helloword.c
[07:40] <Abhijit> omac, http://paste.ubuntu.com/592013/
[07:40] <hylian> ohsix, yeah, but once it was removed i saw a serious upswing in speed. not certain if that was because unity wasn't running, or because gnome was...??
[07:40] <ohsix> hylian: theres a confirmation bias that everyone has to fight :]
[07:41] <omac> Abhijit..hang on.
[07:41] <hylian> ohsix, i see, what your saying is i am against change. well, yes. I am 38 years old, and have been using or fixing computers since apple II c's.
[07:41] <[thor]> Abhijit: you try "./helloworld.c" instead of "helloworld.c" in the commandline?
[07:41] <Abhijit> [thor], no let me try
[07:41] <Abhijit> [thor], same error
[07:42] <ohsix> hylian: i was saying that the apparent change in speed might not have been any change at all; except you prefer unity to not be installed, not that you're against change
[07:42] <ohsix> hylian: i don't use unity/gnome-shell either; but i am not my brother or grandmother, whom would get along rather well not knowing the difference
[07:42] <hylian> ohsix, well, thank you for being open about it. But all I really wanted to know is what other people liked, so... do you like something better than gnome 3?
[07:42] <randal> #ubuntu+1
[07:43] <ohsix> hylian: i don't like "gnome" either,  i like the panel, and the lack of fluff in the file manager, which if i wanted to i could run in any other desktop environment
[07:43] <hylian> ohsix, so are you a cli person, or do you have another gui of choice>
[07:44] <ohsix> hylian: the gui just draws boxes on the screen; the software is where the differences are
[07:44] <Abhijit> omac, yeah
[07:44] <anth_alch> anyone here tried 11.0
[07:44] <anth_alch> thaughts?
[07:45] <arand> !natty
[07:45] <weaselkeeper> the window manager is what I use to draw pretty borders around my terminals.
[07:45] <weaselkeeper> but I do like multiple desktops :P
[07:45] <hylian> ohsix, i feel if i asked you what airline service you liked best, you would start telling me about the plane instead of saying "I like northwest." I was asking a very personal, very non tech releated question.
[07:45] <omac> gcc -Wall -o blah pkg-config --cflags gtkmm-2.4 pangomm-1.4 blah.cc pkg-config --libs gtkmm-2.4 pangomm-1.4 -lstdc++
[07:45] <Abhijit> O.o
[07:46] <omac> Abhijit:gcc -Wall -o blah pkg-config --cflags gtkmm-2.4 pangomm-1.4 blah.cc pkg-config --libs gtkmm-2.4 pangomm-1.4 -lstd
[07:46] <[thor]> !best | hylian
[07:46] <hylian> what is your favorite desktop environment?
[07:46] <anth_alch> gnome
[07:46] <weaselkeeper> one that doesn't get in the way?
[07:46] <ohsix> hylian: if you could mix and match airplane seats and engines and stuff; that could be literally true, but you cant, and i answered your question as properly asked instead of the stunted question you provided originally
[07:46] <hylian> thor, that was not my question in the least. thank you for not answering me. :)
[07:47] <weaselkeeper> tell me what I need to know, stay out of the way, and let me get stuff done.
[07:47] <Abhijit> omac, oh leave it then. i will try ide!
[07:47] <[thor]> hylian: waht part of "Do NOT take polls in the channel." was overlooked?
[07:47] <hylian> ohsix, i know, i sometimes don't get all my thought processes in a row, so to speak.
[07:47] <Abhijit> omac, thanks for your time
[07:47] <ohsix> hylian: perhaps more appropriate if i was an airline and picking vendors for planes and engines, or if i was northrupp grumman and i had to decide between rolls royce plc and ge
[07:48] <kamran> i have a pentium 4 machine 2.4 Ghz with 512 MB of RAM. i been using kubuntu and feel that i dont make much use of the widgets. would switching to Xubuntu make my computer run faster ?
[07:48] <G_Val> good morning guys ! I have an issue with my linux ubuntu may someone help me ?
[07:48] <omac> Abhijit: http://lists-archives.org/mingw-users/15868-building-c-apps-with-ming-gtkmm-glibmm.html
[07:48] <omac> This works in linux.
[07:48] <milamber> !ask | G_Val
[07:48] <hylian> thor, i am not taking a poll. i am asking a serious question about desktop environments, because i want to change from gnome. but I will not ask poll like questions.
[07:48] <ohsix> hylian: my overall point is that if you can't find a set of actual different choices people make to call a "desktop environment", you can mix them; as they are just random bits of software
[07:49] <G_Val> ok just checking !
[07:49] <pksadiq> Abhijit : private please
[07:49] <[thor]> hylian: this isn't a poll? <hylian> what is your favorite desktop environment?
[07:49] <G_Val> Uhm i can't access to my linux desktop
[07:49] <[thor]> hylian: i don't wish to drag this on any longer, please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic if you wish to rebut.
[07:50] <hylian> thor. i want to get rid of gnome, because i see a trend in ubuntu being paired with unity, or possibly gnome 3, of which I am not a fan. I was asking people what they considered a viable replacement be. I am sorry.
[07:50] <ohsix> hylian: and that you will not be happy with much else even if you were shopping around for them, you could try them all and still be displeased; you understand? find otu what you don't like with gnome and see what you can do about it, if it's just gnome-shell, use the classic session; if it's unity, use the classic session
[07:50] <G_Val> i tried to access by bash and when i run "nautilus" it says cannot open display
[07:50] <hylian> ohsix, i think i will be quote happy with xfce4. it is much like gnome.
[07:50] <addi> hey guys, I just tried installing Ubuntu 10 using Wubi, however when I restarted the comp with Wubi, there was no Ubuntu entry in the boot menu..
[07:50] <ohsix> hylian: i don't think you really know what "gnome 3" comprises, or what relationship unity has with the rest of what would be called "gnome 3"
[07:51] <toshiba> may be the boot time
[07:51] <[thor]> hylian: that doesn't change the fact taht it is off topic for the ubuntu support channel.
[07:51] <ohsix> hylian: it's no gnome without a panel, full stop
[07:51] <toshiba> addi:you use xp?
[07:51] <[thor]> !ot | ohsix
[07:51] <milamber> G_Val: you still haven't really asked a question. what do you mean by bash? are you referring to the command line?
[07:51] <addi> toshiba, Win 7
[07:51] <hylian> ohsix, i think you win. you are now on a topic for which i was not on.
[07:51] <ohsix> hylian: and it sounds like you've made up your mind enough with regard to your original question that it doesn't need to  be discussed further
[07:52] <addi> it worked before, no idea why it isn't doing so now..
[07:52] <G_Val> milamber: exactly man i am using the cli now
[07:52] <toshiba> addi:you delete some file in C:
[07:52] <hylian> ok all, my brain is fried, have a good night.
[07:52] <milamber> G_Val: what happens when you type: startx
[07:52] <ohsix> hylian: your original question was OT, me replying is OT
[07:52] <kamran> somebody read my question ?
[07:53] <[thor]> kamran: try in #kubuntu
[07:53] <G_Val> milamber: i didn't i just removed "splash" and "quiet" to not see the loading and detect the problem (i did that by hitting "e" 2 times in the grub m,enu
[07:53] <milamber> kamran: probably. install it and find out.
[07:53] <addi> I see there's a wubldr file in C..
[07:53] <ohsix> i dont think hylian left with any increased understanding of what he was really talking about :[
[07:54] <kamran> thanks
[07:54] <toshiba> addi:try "msconfig" command
[07:54] <milamber> kamran: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop   you will be able to choose which desktop to log in to
[07:54] <milamber> G_Val: i want you to type that from the cli
[07:54] <addi> toshiba, yes, only 1 entry in that.
[07:55] <G_Val> milamber: what about recovery mode man ?
[07:56] <milamber> G_Val: you have to hold shift when booting up. i'd prefer to find out what errors x is throwing by you typing: startx from the cli
[07:56] <Syria> milamber: Why I can't install gnome3?
[07:56] <milamber> Syria: you did
[07:56] <Syria> milamber: Unable to locate package, it is just a session right?
[07:56] <Syria> milamber:  I can't activate the visual effects.
[07:56] <G_Val> milamber: i typed startx in recovery mode
[07:57] <milamber> Syria: gnome3 is brand new. it will take time to get packages updated and officially released.
[07:57] <milamber> !latest
[07:57] <toshiba> may you delete some files in drive C:
[07:57] <milamber> G_Val: and . . .
[07:57] <whistlr> hi
[07:58] <Syria> milamber:  Thank you for explaining this. :)
[07:58] <G_Val> milamber: the pointer is loading
[07:58] <whistlr> I have a 3 monitor setup, one in portrait mode, for some reason the mouse will not go to the monitor that is in portrait mode
[07:58] <G_Val> milamber: but i don't know if it is a kinbda of freezing or other
[07:58] <whistlr> and i thought there was no use of the portrait mode monitor, but xchat just opened up on it, and i can type
[07:59] <whistlr> nvidia for both graphics cards, mangaed by nvidia-settings
[07:59] <milamber> G_Val: can you please rephrase that? i am not understanding what you are trying to say
[07:59] <pentesilea_> whistlr: i know what you mean!
[08:00] <weaselkeeper>  
[08:00] <ohsix> whistlr: if they're on separate cards they'll be separate displays, i don't think the mouse can go across displays without x2x or something
[08:00] <G_Val> milamber: the screen is loading and that is indicated by pointer animation did u understand ?
[08:00] <whistlr> ran into this before?
[08:00] <G_Val> milamber: but is doesn't work anyway
[08:00] <whistlr> well its weird, because everything works fine
[08:01] <whistlr> if i dont have the 3rd monitor in portriat mode
[08:01] <whistlr> i can scroll across three monitors etc
[08:01] <ohsix> whistlr: oic
[08:01] <daVinciIT> ubuntu10.10. hi all. I like to run Empathy and autoconnect chat accounts at startup. how to please?
[08:01] <helpplease> I don't suppose someone can help me with an installation problem I'm having?  It's probably simple, but it's apparently beyond me.
[08:01] <whistlr> and i can use alt+tab to get to the portrait mode monitor (xchat window is open on it), but no mouse
[08:02] <ohsix> whistlr: well with the nvidia-settings thing i don't know what to tell you; with the regular screen applet you just position the displays and it'd work, there could be some confusion about screen edges with nvidia-settings or something
[08:02] <[thor]> !ask | helpplease
[08:03] <tripelb> Is there a way I can print th page on the clipboard?
[08:03] <mehdi_> hey guys doesnt gnome 3 has anything  like compiz?
[08:03] <ohsix> mehdi_: it has compiz
[08:03] <ohsix> mehdi_: you don't need to run gnome-shell with gnome 3 if you don't want to
[08:04] <thevishy> how is gnoem 3 guys
[08:04] <tripelb> what's gnome-shell, tripelb wonders. What gnome do I have in 10.4? What has gnome3?
[08:05] <tripelb> and can I print my clipboard? it's a picture of a google map window
[08:05] <[thor]> tripelb: the application 'xclip' might have a command for printing the contents of the clipboard
[08:05] <G_Val> mehdi_: it is still loadig no way man
[08:05] <milamber> tripelb: in 10.4 you have gnome2, there are packages for maverick and natty for gnome3, natty will have more gnome3 stuff when it comes out end of this month
[08:05] <helpplease> apologies.  Here is my problem:  I am trying to install 10.10 dual boot with win7-64 already installed.  I have raid disabled and deleted in bios.  I install win7, partition ~half to ntfs, all is well.  I run 10.10 installer, gparted can see the partitions fine (create, delete, etc, ), but the installer sees only the drive listed as /dev/mapper/something with no partitions.  Thoughts?
[08:06] <[thor]> tripelb: you can also paste the image into GIMP, and print from there
[08:06] <ohsix> tripelb: google maps has its own print view thats quite nice, you could just use it in the browser
[08:06] <G_Val> milamber: it is still loading no way man
[08:06] <Torocatala> who loves Oasis? I love the fucking Oasis
[08:06] <tripelb> [thor], I dont have xclip... ah gimp, good idea. Ohsix the print view prints tiny maps and I want the overview.
[08:06] <rww> Torocatala: #ubuntu-offtopic does.
[08:06] <Torocatala> thx rww
[08:07] <tripelb> ohsix the window as is is just perfect. google wants to give you more small area detail, while we dont need that, just the big picture.
[08:08] <[thor]> tripelb: xclip is available in the software center.. but in this case, GIMP is the best bet probably
[08:08] <ohsix> tripelb: gimp also has "Create -> From clipboard" that lets you select a screen region too; so you can do it in one step
[08:09] <milamber> tripelb: when you hit prntscrn why don't you just save the file? then you can open it w/ image viewer and print?
[08:09] <ohsix> tripelb: er create from screenshot,  it also has create from clipboard but that's just the clipboard contents :D
[08:11] <stuart> anybody know anyhitng about ruby and refinery?
[08:11] <helpplease> Installation question:  I am trying to install 10.10 dual boot with win7-64 already installed.  I have raid disabled and deleted in bios.  I install win7, partition ~half of drive to ntfs and install, all is well.  I run 10.10 installer, gparted can see the partitions fine (create, delete, etc, ), but the installer sees only the drive listed as /dev/mapper/something with no partitions.  Drive is 'basic' (not dynamic) in win7.  Some
[08:12] <mehdi_> @<G_Val> i wish it atleast had bubly animation
[08:19] <junglejooze> What is the command for booting into recovery mode on live usb 10.10?
[08:20] <CGo> Hey guys.
[08:20] <CGo> I've got a mean issue here. Its been haunting me since Ubuntu 8.04
[08:21] <red2kic> You got one evil bug.
[08:21] <CGo> The screen is maxed out at 1360x768
[08:21] <CGo> While my card and screen must support 1920x1080
[08:21] <CGo> I say must because with its size, the average letter is now the size of my thumb
[08:22] <red2kic> CGo: Did you install the additional drivers? (Nvidia or ATI).
[08:22] <ohsix> CGo: the edid your monitor provides might be wrong, if it is you can add modes with xrandr
[08:22] <CGo> red2kic, yes, ohsix, the monitor is wrong yes.
[08:22] <CGo> Before 8.04 I could set it with a dialog but someone very special decided that had to go.
[08:22] <CGo> Xrandr.. I'll give it a shot but its never workedf or me before
[08:23] <ohsix> CGo: if it's a proprietary driver it probably wont be supported, but it's the proper way to do it otherwise
[08:23] <ohsix> and by proprietary i mean nvidia
[08:23] <CGo> ohsix, what would the alternative be?
[08:24] <soreau> CGo: Radeon or nVidia?
[08:24] <CGo> soreau, nVidia Geforce FX 3400
[08:24] <soreau> CGo: eww, doesnt even support randr1.2
[08:24] <CGo> Also, I'd very much appreciate it if someone could tell me how to get the unity taskbar out of hiding.
[08:24] <ohsix> (the driver doesn't)
[08:25] <soreau> Probably the only compiz capable driver that doesnt
[08:25] <Seoester> but if you install the nvidia graphic drivers the NVIDIA Xserver settings GUI will be installed
[08:25] <addi> FX3400 is Quadro afaik.
[08:25] <dkam_> Hey guys - using 11.04  and "host localhost" returns 1 correct entry and 2 host not found.  I've updated nsswitch so 'hosts' is just files and dns. Any idea where host is looking?
[08:25] <soreau> CGo: unity? Using natty?
[08:25] <junglejooze> Is it possible to boot into recovery mode with an ubuntu-installed-on-usb version, and if yes, how?
[08:25] <CGo> soreau, its worked before. If it suddenly stopped working between 7 and 8, I'd say that's a step down of the OS
[08:25] <soreau> ! natty | CGo
[08:25] <CGo> Ah.
[08:25] <CGo> Okay, Unity sucks anyway
[08:26] <addi> wow, almost no one seems to like Unity.
[08:26] <ohsix> CGo: you can't control what nvidia does; and they cant accomdate it forever, thats why it has its own settings applet and everything. people wanting stuff to work nice for people with good drivers moved on a long time ago
[08:26] <Blue11> CGo: preach it bro.
[08:26] <CGo> addi, I disliked it on my netbook (installed desktop version) and I dislike it on my desktop, though I've decided to give it a chance.
[08:27] <Blue11> CGo: ditto
[08:27] <Daniel0108> addi: we like to customize gnome, and we can't customize unity, unity is buggy, unity crashes :P
[08:27] <addi> i haven't been on v11 yet, but the negative reviews are staggering :p
[08:27] <addi> was about to install, but will wait for final version
[08:27] <ohsix> hurf
[08:27] <ohsix> gag
[08:27] <Daniel0108> I was a beta tester, but now I'm back to 10.10 :)
[08:27] <addi> will be installing 10.10 today
[08:27] <addi> on Winblows right now..
[08:27] <HullNb> I'm havin prob installing ethernet drivers on ubuntu
[08:27] <Daniel0108> addi: I have 10.10 with Gnome2 and gnome3 :D
[08:27] <junglejooze> really interesting chit chat people..
[08:27] <CGo> addi, to exemplify again, in a minute I'm gonna need to close all windows to make that taskbar come out of hiding again.
[08:28] <r4y> Does the live cd of Ubuntu have fsck on it?
[08:28] <CGo> Oh wait, it spontaniously shot out
[08:28] <CGo> As if it were psychic..
[08:28] <CGo> Didn't even move my mouse to that edge.
[08:28] <Daniel0108> junglejooze: it's not offtopic, we're talking about ubuntu :)
[08:28] <Blue1> addi 10.04 is an lts release 10.10 is not
[08:28] <ohsix> Daniel0108: this isn't ##ubuntu, this is #ubuntu, and a "support channel"
[08:29] <r4y> what's the other ubuntu channel for?
[08:29] <CGo> Blue1, how would you rate Kubuntu 10.10 vs. Ubuntu?
[08:29] <HullNb> I downloaded drivers for linux from realtek download page and ran make utility
[08:29] <addi> that's the chat channel I think..
[08:29] <Daniel0108> ohsix: yes, but we're "supporting", we are talking about unity bugs, crashes and so on :)
[08:29] <ohsix> Daniel0108: file bugs, this isn't the place for it
[08:29] <[thor]> addi/r4y: the chat channel is #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:29] <HullNb> the code isn't compilering
[08:29] <HullNb> compilig
[08:29] <addi> yeah, that is beta..
[08:30] <Daniel0108> ohsix: we help to decide, gnome or unity, isn't that support?
[08:30] <r4y> I meant "##ubuntu?
[08:30] <fisch246> "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: warn: Discarding improperly nested partition" any ideas how to fix this?
[08:30] <ohsix> CGo: if you're going to be doing polling, #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:30] <addi> I got my answer. Gnome is the way to go..
[08:30] <Starminn> !best | Daniel0108
[08:30] <ohsix> Daniel0108: you can't help anyone make a subjective judgement
[08:30] <CGo> I don't want a poll, just one guy's opinion.
[08:30] <Starminn> Daniel0108: That's what you tell them.
[08:30] <ohsix> CGo: message them
[08:30] <Daniel0108> ohsix: that's why we are talking about it ;)
[08:30] <CGo> Time to wipe this partition
[08:30] <r4y> What task?
[08:31] <CGo> Wait, shit how do I close this in unity
[08:31] <fisch246> !language
[08:31] <junglejooze> anyone know how to boot a live version into recovery mode?
[08:31] <Daniel0108> okay, okay, if you want to know something about unity --> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:31] <r4y> O, I see
[08:31] <fisch246> alright let me explain my problem...
[08:31] <fisch246> when i run sudo update-grub i get this "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: warn: Discarding improperly nested partition"
[08:32] <fisch246> a lot
[08:32] <ohsix> Daniel0108: what can someone know from hearsay? all they'll know is that someone named Daniel0108 said it; it says nothing about what the subject matter is
[08:32] <Daniel0108> ohsix: I told them that it didn't work well on my laptop, that's MY opinion, and that's what they wanted to know
[08:33] <ohsix> "they"
[08:33] <Daniel0108> ohsix: he/she
[08:33] <fisch246> it's not really a "problem" more of an "annoyance"
[08:33] <Daniel0108> ohsix: okay, doesn't matter, if he wants to know something --> #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:33] <G_Val> milamber: it doesn't work
[08:34] <ohsix> Daniel0108: your opinion doesn't even make the situation better on your machine; you need to file bugs and see why its not working well, it will not help them either
[08:34] <tripelb> Daniel0108, ohsix as Leary wrote it:  sHe
[08:34] <milamber> !doesntwork | G_Val
[08:34] <G_Val> milamber: lol nice bot startx doesn't work
[08:35] <G_Val> milamber: i told you before about
[08:35] <milamber> G_Val: did it just hang at the gui?
[08:35] <G_Val> milamber: it just still loading and nothing happen
[08:35] <fisch246> "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: warn: Discarding improperly nested partition (/dev/sda,msdos1,msdos1)."
[08:36] <milamber> G_Val: pastebing /var/log/xorg.0.log
[08:36] <milamber> pastebin*
[08:36] <fisch246> is there a way i can find this partition? cause i can't find it in g-parted
[08:36] <r4y> Is fsck on the live cd of Ubuntu?
[08:37] <daVinciIT> hi all. I like to start gedit at start up but nothihg. I've put in StartUp Application and in rc.local ... nothing to do... how to!?!?!? thank you.
[08:37] <[thor]> fisch246: anything wierd in your fstab?
[08:37] <G_Val> milamber: thought cli using nano it doesn't appear
[08:37] <fisch246> [thor]: how do i check it
[08:37] <www314> Can I install Silverlight on Ubuntu? (How?)
[08:37] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592025/
[08:38] <r4y> I thought the live cd of Ubuntu had fsck on it, am I wrong?
[08:38] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592027/
[08:38] <ohsix> Daniel0108: rc.local is for the machine startup, not the login applications
[08:38] <atlef> !monolight
[08:38] <fisch246> !moonlight | www314
[08:38] <r4y> that's all I wanted to ask
[08:38] <milamber> G_Val: then cd /var/www && ls xorg*
[08:38] <[thor]> fisch246: fstab is in /etc/
[08:39] <G_Val> milamber: with or without star ?
[08:39] <milamber> G_Val: with
[08:39] <G_Val> milamber: no such file or directory oO
[08:40] <milamber> G_Val: my fault, cd /var/log
[08:40] <fisch246> [thor]: doesn't look like it
[08:40] <guest010203> can someone help me figure out why sound isnt working in chatzilla?
[08:40] <Swatinem> Hi, I’m having problems with the proprietary nvidia drivers in natty, can someone help me?
[08:40] <G_Val> milamber: don't worry about same error xD
[08:41] <iceroot> Swatinem: #ubuntu+1
[08:41] <atlef> !natty | Swatinem
[08:41] <milamber> G_Val: just do: ls
[08:41] <Swatinem> thanks
[08:41] <milamber> G_Val: the last file should be Xorg.0.log
[08:41] <fisch246> [thor]: this happened after i installed fedora... however i got rid of fedora and now have that error
[08:42] <G_Val> man ls
[08:42] <G_Val> milamber: man ls in home ?
[08:42] <milamber> G_Val: no, in /var/log
[08:42] <G_Val> milamber: ok cd /var/log && ls ? ù
[08:43] <[thor]> fisch246: the fstab thing was more of a shot in the dark. i'm still a novice :D
[08:43] <milamber> G_Val: yes, there should be a list of files. the last one should be Xorg.0.log
[08:43] <[thor]> fisch246: i had some similar errors while making my first attempt to migrate /home/ to a different partition.
[08:44] <G_Val> milamber: man is not better if i run by live cd ?  in this way i an chat too
[08:45] <G_Val> milamber: what about it ?
[08:46] <milamber> G_Val: pastebin that file please
[08:47] <fisch246> sigh...
[08:50] <G_Val> milamber: man i have a lot of files i can't pastebin
[08:50] <fisch246> should i try and reinstall grub? or is there a hidden partition?
[08:51] <milamber> !pastebinit | G_val
[08:51] <G_Val> milamber: the last 4 ones xorg.0.log xorg.0.log.old xorg.failsafe.log and xorg.failsafe.log.old
[08:51] <fisch246> problems like this is why i advise against fedora installations >.<
[08:52] <Zorlin> milamber: that is *amazing*
[08:52] <G_Val> milamber: i know that i have no net on my bash man (i am connected by another machine )
[08:52] <Zorlin> i don't know why, pastebinit just eems really impressive to me
[08:52] <Ycarene> Should I consider giving each application its own sandbox?
[08:52] <G_Val> milamber: that's why i askd you if i can run in live
[08:53] <milamber> G_Val: what did you do to get your system into that state? what commands did you run?
[08:53] <G_Val> jester-: milamber before come here i just tried to run it in failsafe mode maybe the issue was created by nvidia driers
[08:54] <patryk> hello
[08:54] <G_Val> milamber: there's no solution maybe is better if i run in live and restore by installing without formatting
[08:55] <Starminn> Oh, random-ish question. Is anybody here using Verizon wireless USB internet thingy? I'm just wondering if it works with Ubuntu
[08:55] <milamber> G_Val: that may be the best option if you are
[08:55] <G_Val> milamber: i am totally new here man i'm not an expert like u
[08:56] <ohsix> Starminn: probably, only way to know for sure is try it; all sorts of phone/3g modems work
[08:56] <Neo_Kipling> hi, fellows, why this cron line doesn't triggered: @reboot  sleep 18;screen -dmS irssi torsocks irssi
[08:56] <fisch246> fdisk shows all green
[08:56] <G_Val> milamber: i just tried to use my fuctional english and my knowledge
[08:57] <fisch246> by green i mean good
[08:57] <Starminn> ohsix: My girlfriend who has been curious (but leery (because "Linux is for smart geeks")) about Ubuntu uses Verizon and it has a special program for logging on for Windows.
[08:57] <Neo_Kipling> this line either:@reboot screen -dmS irssi irssi
[08:57] <Starminn> ohsix: I know Ubuntu is more "Plug and play" than Windows, but I'm wondering if that program might not work or if it would be easier or what. She won't let me play with her computer because she thinks I'll break it.
[08:57] <atlef> Starminn: try a live cd to see if it works
[08:57] <ohsix> Starminn: then try using th emodem on yours
[08:58] <fisch246> so obviously nothing is wrong, just grub being confused then?
[08:58] <G_Val> milamber: thanks for helping and for trying anyway
[08:58] <milamber> G_Val: sorry i couldn't be of more assistance
[08:58] <Starminn> atlef: No, I mean a LiveCD. She thinks I'll hurt her computer, lol. Her Windows7 has always been slow, and she suddenly felt like after popping in the LiveCD Win7 got slower (which is impossible of course lol)
[08:58] <nixjr> whats radeon support in ubunut like? ive only ever used nvidia
[08:59] <ohsix> Starminn: the special program is from the lack of a program at all w/windows to do it
[08:59] <ohsix> Starminn: not impossible but unlikely
[08:59] <ZombieChicken> I currently have an ubuntu install sitting in qemu-kvm with a max resolution of 1024x768. How can I increase this easily?
[08:59] <Starminn> ohsix: I thought so. So Ubuntu you can just bring up the Internet connection dialog, type in the password, and you're good, without the prog?
[08:59] <Starminn> nixjr: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV380 [Radeon X600 (PCIE)]
[08:59] <Starminn> nixjr: That's mine. I have no problems.
[09:00] <ohsix> Starminn: you add a new 3g connection with nm and enter the credentials; it works
[09:00] <Neo_Kipling> It's kind of weird, '@reboot  sleep 20;screen -dmSfa rtorrent rtorrent' works well
[09:00] <Starminn> ohsix: I've only ever used hardwired ethernet connections. Care ot break that down a bit more for me? I just know I'll get one chance and I'll be expected to "know everything" ;)
[09:01] <researcher123> is there a channel for remastersys?
[09:02] <randomperson> can someone explain to me why mozilla likes to open a new tab automatically when i click on things
[09:02] <randomperson> at random
[09:02] <G_Val_> milamber: man you really gave a good assistance !!!
[09:02] <fisch246> well i guess i'll try the forums then...
[09:02] <ohsix> Starminn: click on the network manager applet, edit connections; pick the mobile broadband tab, click add
[09:02] <Starminn> randomperson: Have you looked in your Preferences?
[09:02] <randomperson> starminn: yes
[09:03] <ohsix> Starminn: you'll probably need to figure out the stuff other than the authentication from verizon, if it doesn't work when you omit it
[09:03] <atlef> researcher123: #remastersys
[09:03] <researcher123> atlef: thanbks
[09:03] <Starminn> ohsix: So, in theory, doing that and typing in her user/pass will be fine? What do you mean "other than the Verizon authentication"?
[09:04] <Starminn> randomperson: How about any add-ons that would do it?
[09:04] <ohsix> Starminn: sometimes you need special numbers to initiate a connection
[09:04] <randomperson> starminn: unless there is some option that i dont know of
[09:04] <Neo_Kipling> maybe i should try trigger this with upstart, thanks everyone
[09:04] <Starminn> ohsix: Eww....
[09:04] <lizard_2k1> hi all, help me please: how i can clean my sources.list?
[09:04] <randomperson> starminn: none just barebones ubuntu
[09:04] <Starminn> ohsix: But google should hold the answers, right?
[09:04] <Starminn> randomperson: I meanta Firefox add-on
[09:04] <ohsix> Starminn: no clue
[09:05] <randomperson> starminn: i know... none
[09:05] <songer> hello
[09:05] <randomperson> starminn: by barebones ubuntu, i mean just what was initially installed by ubuntu
[09:05] <Starminn> randomperson: Alright, well for Mozilla product support, go to the appropriate channel here: http://irc.mozilla.org/
[09:06] <randomperson> starminn: its not just in firefox, thats just were i notice it the most
[09:06] <Starminn> randomperson: Well as far as I know Ubuntu has absolutely no bearing on browser tab behavior, so it's the browser, not Ubuntu.
[09:07] <randomperson> i.e., sometimes i will click a tab in chat client... and it will magically close
[09:07] <randomperson> same happens in firefox
[09:07] <Starminn> What's your chat client?
[09:07] <randomperson> konversation
[09:07] <randomperson> i was using chatzilla
[09:07] <randomperson> did the same thing in there too
[09:08] <Starminn> Well Chatilla is not Ubuntu. It is Firefox.
[09:08] <randomperson> i switched b/c i couldnt figure out why the sound wasnt working
[09:08] <ohsix> sounds like you might be getting spurious middle clicks
[09:08] <randomperson> but konversation isnt
[09:08] <Dr_Willis> run konversation from terminal, if it crashes, look for error messages in the terminal.
[09:08] <randomperson> what are spurious middle clicks
[09:08] <Starminn> Right. And Konversation is doing the same thing? I'm trying to get it to a niche so we can more effectively Google for a fix.
[09:09] <randomperson> dr_willis what is command?
[09:09] <Starminn> randomperson: Should just be the file path to Knoversation.
[09:09]  * randomperson is new to ubuntu/linux
[09:10] <ropes> hey guys, is 11.04 worth upgrading to if you're on 10.10?
[09:10] <Silicone> hello, does anybody know what to do? i need to mirror a website, typing wget -m "url" but it saves only the main paget, with other sites everithing goes well, any help will be much appreciated
[09:10] <ropes> is it stable?
[09:10] <randomperson> ropes, its i beta right now
[09:10] <randomperson> for some people
[09:10] <randomperson> they are supposed to release later this month, i would just wait
[09:11] <Starminn> !natty > ropes
[09:11] <ropes> randomperson: ah ok, i was wondering if it was buggy
[09:11] <Starminn> ropes: Release date is in there
[09:11] <Starminn> ropes: I would highly suggest waiting until it's "official"
[09:11] <daVinciIT> ubuntu 10.10. Morning all. is it possible to avoid the 'login keyring' ??? I've problem with empathy.
[09:11] <r4y> I use Chatzilla
[09:11] <r4y> but what ever
[09:11] <randomperson> i 2nd starminn's comment
[09:12] <ropes> alright thanks guys
[09:12] <ohsix> daVinciIT: change the password on the keyring to match your login password so it's unlocked at login
[09:12] <daVinciIT> ok thank you.
[09:12] <Silicone> hello, does anybody know what to do? i need to mirror a website, typing wget -m "url" but it saves only the main paget, with other sites everithing goes well, any help will be much appreciated
[09:12] <Dr_Willis> daVinciIT:  you can set the keyring to use a 'blank' password. and it will never ask for the initial keyring passsword. it wull use ;'unsafe storage' also.
[09:12] <Starminn> randomperson: File path should be like... Alright, go to Places->Computer->File System
[09:13] <daVinciIT> Dr_Willis: how to delete the password?
[09:13] <Starminn> randomperson: So ocne you're at root (/) go to /usr/bin and see if "konversation" is in there
[09:13] <ohsix> Dr_Willis: argh
[09:13] <ohsix> daVinciIT: the keyring stores a lot of credentials, thats why it has a password; you do not want to do that
[09:13] <ubuntu_mad> Hi can you direct me to ubuntu 11.04 chat?
[09:14] <kriep> randomperson: about the opening new tabs on clicking, the website decides. http://92.225.28.239/xx.html
[09:14] <ohsix> ubuntu_mad: #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <Starminn> ubuntu_mad: #ubuntu+1
[09:14] <milamber> Silicone: wget -m -k -K -E http://url/of/web/site
[09:14] <Starminn> kriep: randomperson: Is talking about them closing randomly
[09:14] <randomperson> and randomly opening
[09:14] <randomperson> tabs in general
[09:15] <Starminn> randomperson: Yeah, but I mean, they both open and close by themselves. Which means you have random middle-clicks going on somewhere.
[09:15] <Silicone> milamber, the same, just the main page :(
[09:16] <Starminn> randomperson: kriep was syaing like, some links, the web coder can say <a href="blah.html" target="_blank"></a> to open in a new tab by force
[09:16] <randomperson> im on a laptop if that makes a difference
[09:16] <randomperson> ok for example... ill be in facebook looking at pics... then all of a sudden ill notice that theres 5 facbook tabs open besides the one im using
[09:17] <randomperson> btw konversation is in /usr/bin/
[09:17] <ubuntu_mad> thanks all
[09:18] <Starminn> randomperson: Alright, so as somebody said earlier, launch it from the Terminal.
[09:18] <ohsix> randomperson: broken extensions can do funny things too
[09:18] <atlef> randomperson: check your mouse/touchpad settings and look for midle-click
[09:18] <milamber> Silicone: how are you verifying the mirror?
[09:18] <randomperson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1577684
[09:18] <randomperson> i did just find that
[09:18] <atlef> *middle
[09:19] <dustin_> hi yalls
[09:19] <Silicone> milamber, open the folder it creates, an see there only one file, index.html, i mirrored 2 sites before, and everithing was ok, don't know what is wrong with this one
[09:20] <Starminn> randomperson: Launching it from the Terminal did you receive any errors?
[09:20] <randomperson> atlef, didnt see anything
[09:20] <ohsix> Silicone: wget just fetches direct links; if there aren't any then it is not going to work
[09:20] <randomperson> starminn, how to launch
[09:20] <Starminn> randomperson: So you'll want to open a Terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal) and type in the full file path. << /usr/bin/konversation >> (or whaever it's called).
[09:20] <randomperson> just sudo /usr/bin/konversation
[09:20] <randomperson> ?
[09:20] <ohsix> randomperson: NO
[09:20] <ohsix> randomperson: you do not want to run it as root
[09:21] <milamber> Silicone: can i ask which site?
[09:21] <randomperson> no sudo
[09:21] <Starminn> randomperson: Ew. no. Not sudo.
[09:21] <randomperson> lol ok
[09:21] <Silicone> sent to private
[09:21] <randomperson> it just switched to this window
[09:21] <Starminn> randomperson: Only use sudo when you have to. Like editing files outside of /home/yourUSER.
[09:22] <randomperson> i guess b/c i already have it open
[09:22] <dhanesh> equalizer for ubuntu 10.10
[09:22] <dhanesh> please can anybody tell
[09:22] <Starminn> dhanesh: Alsa Mixer? Never used it, but you could see if it has something like it
[09:23] <Starminn> dhanesh: I know Banshee has one built-in.
in windows there is a wide band equaliser by realtek
[09:24] <UnrealPancake> hello is there anybody here who can help me?
[09:24] <Starminn> dhanesh: What are you trying ot accomplish?
[09:24] <Starminn> !ask | UnrealPancake
[09:24] <UnrealPancake> I want to delete Ubuntu
[09:24] <ohsix> dhanesh: theres no nice way to do it, but pulse can have ladspa plugin sinks that can do eq, and theres an eq module for alsa
[09:24] <milamber> Silicone: the command i gave you is working for me.
[09:24] <UnrealPancake> From a dual boot Win XP
[09:24] <zmolnar> hi, I have a weird problem regarding 11.04 natty, whenever I plug in the net cable it completely freezes in a few seconds, I could install/ use only wireless
[09:25] <Dr_Willis> zmolnar:  see #ubuntu+1 for natty
[09:25] <zmolnar> has anyone of you seen anything like that?
[09:25] <ohsix> UnrealPancake: run fdisk /mbr in windows then delete the ubuntu partitions
[09:25] <atlef> !natty | zmolnar
[09:25] <randomperson> starminn: i found this
[09:25] <randomperson> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1607973
[09:25] <UnrealPancake> ohsix im goingto PM / Query you
 tell corect version
[09:25] <Silicone> milamber, strange... i pasted just from this chat
[09:25] <randomperson> post 7
[09:25] <ohsix> UnrealPancake: no
[09:25] <UnrealPancake> ugh
[09:25] <zmolnar> ok, thanks!
[09:25] <UnrealPancake> easier that way
[09:25] <UnrealPancake> but how do i do that?
[09:26] <milamber> Silicone: are you sure you have read/write on everything you need to where you are running it?
[09:27] <UnrealPancake> ohsix i had ubuntu set aside 30 GB of space JUST for Ubuntu, i dont think i got it back. there are no ubuntu partitons, and I originally deleted it from the controlpanel>add and remove programs
[09:27] <Neo_> hi all, just a little advice; if i wanted to write a graphical application what graphic library would you suggest me?
[09:27] <Starminn> UnrealPancake: You used Wubi, then, yes?
[09:27] <UnrealPancake> yes
[09:27] <Silicone> sure, i'm from root, and as i said before, tried few other sites and everything was ok
[09:28] <Starminn> randomperson: Try it
[09:28] <ohsix> Neo_: one that does graphics
[09:28] <Silicone> milamber, sure, i'm from root, and as i said before, tried few other sites and everything was ok
[09:28] <UnrealPancake> Starminn yes i did
[09:28] <milamber> Silicone: odd, are you using the full path?
[09:28] <Neo_> ohsix: well, it's obvious; but what is it better between GTK or QT or something else?
[09:29] <ohsix> Neo_: flip a coin
[09:29] <randomperson> i just did it
[09:29] <ohsix> Neo_: if dependencies don't matter then you might as well
[09:29] <kriep> Neo_: www.libsdl.org
[09:30] <Neo_> ohsix, so you think they are completely interchangeble?
[09:30] <randomperson> starminn, appears to have done the job but not sure
[09:30] <r4y> What command should I use for running fsck?, I am on a live cd of Ubuntu
[09:30] <randomperson> they were intermittent and random
[09:30] <Dr_Willis> r4y:  fsck /dev/sdXX
[09:30] <randomperson> so will have to test for a day or two
[09:31] <ohsix> Neo_: as you asked, anything is an acceptable suggestion
[09:31] <Neo_> kriep, i mean a library that lets me write application with a graphics interface. i mean create windows, objects, buttons ...
[09:31] <r4y> no sudo then?
[09:31] <Starminn> randomperson: Open a bunch of tabs, then start middle-clicking purposely to see if all is still well, then just sit your mouse over a tab and see if it closes.
[09:31] <ohsix> Neo_: you provided 2, so flip a coin if you can't think of any other reason you would pick between them
[09:31] <randomperson> thanks for suggesting the term middle-click
[09:31] <UnrealPancake> Starminn yes i used wubi, why?
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> r4y:  system commands would require sudo if you are currently a user of course..
[09:31] <Neo_> ohsix, ok, thanks
[09:31] <Starminn> randomperson: I know that doesn't necessarily mean "fixed" but still.
[09:31] <randomperson> how to middle click
[09:31] <randomperson> ?
[09:31] <UnrealPancake> the scroll wheel
[09:31] <Starminn> randomperson: On a laptop it's Button1+Button2 at the same time
[09:31] <Dr_Willis> randomperson:  middle mouse button/wheel down.
[09:31] <UnrealPancake> the scroll wheel randomperson
[09:31] <Starminn> UnrealPancake: He's on a laptop
[09:32] <UnrealPancake> oh
[09:32] <UnrealPancake> well
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> 'mouse chording' = middle click = Mouse button 1 and 2 at same time.
[09:32] <UnrealPancake> right click
[09:32] <UnrealPancake> new tab
[09:32] <UnrealPancake> lol
[09:32] <FloodBot3> UnrealPancake: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:32] <Starminn> UnrealPancake: And because Wubi means it's inside of Windows. Most people here including myself can't advise very well on WUBI because it's not actually an install.
[09:32] <paolo> vonne
[09:32] <randomperson> ok for example i opened mozilla
[09:32] <Dr_Willis> Wubi installs everything into a directory on the C: i thought.
[09:32] <UnrealPancake> Starminn is there a wubi uninstaller?
[09:33] <r4y> I tried this command before but nothing happened I guess: http://paste.ubuntu.com/592025/
[09:33] <randomperson> went to google and middle-clicked  button1+button2
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> UnrealPancake:  the add/remove thing in windows should remove a wubi install from what Little i know of wubi.
[09:33] <ohsix> Starminn: it is an actual install; it just creates a file on ntfs and loop mounts it on boot
[09:33] <randomperson> it opened a new tab
[09:33] <UnrealPancake> Dr_Willis but i dont think i got my 30 GB of space back
[09:33] <Silicone> ok, milamber helped me... the cause was, that i was not writing the full path,(url was without "www") big thanks for him ;)
[09:33] <randomperson> unrealpancake... its in windows
[09:33] <Dr_Willis> UnrealPancake:  prove it I guess.. see if theres some wubi dir.
[09:34] <UnrealPancake> where would the wubi directory be?
[09:34] <Starminn> ohsix: Eh.... It is an actual install, but... You know what I mean.
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> UnrealPancake:  C:\ i think.
[09:34] <Starminn> UnrealPancake: ON the pseudo-partition C:\\
[09:34] <UnrealPancake> ok
[09:34] <ohsix> pseudo?
[09:35] <UnrealPancake> false
[09:35] <UnrealPancake> pseudo means false
[09:35] <ifjsiodfjs> Hey
[09:35] <ifjsiodfjs> I'm having a problem with kigo on Ubuntu.
[09:35] <r4y> I tried this command and nothing happened as far as I can tell: "sudo fsck -A -a /dev/sda1"
[09:35] <UnrealPancake> Dr_Willis Starminn i cant find wubi
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> UnrealPancake:  i dont use wubi. so really cant suggest anything else.. sounds to me like it did uninstall.
[09:36] <Starminn> ohsix: Reference tohow Windows gives BS names to volumes. C, D, E, etc., when they're actually nothing like what Windows makes it seem.
[09:36] <ifjsiodfjs> Moving the mouse around leaves graphical glitches, choosing my move or print screening makes it disappear, but it'll start happening again as soon as I move my mouse. Here's a screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/x0PdK.png
[09:36] <ifjsiodfjs> Anyone know of a fix?
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> how to remove wubi ubuntu install forum thread -> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=861983
[09:37] <ifjsiodfjs> It's incredibly distracting from the game.
[09:37] <milamber> r4y: why do you say nothing is happening? that command can take a *long* time to complete, you are asking it to check and repair all filesystems, yes?
[09:37] <ohsix> Starminn: they're labels for partitions, so what? they're no different than /dev/sda1 or anything, or some pattern for automounting them (/mnt/sda1)
[09:37] <r4y> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592025/
[09:38] <zahra_11> hello!
[09:38] <r4y> Is that wrong?
[09:39] <zahra_11> I add to my .bashrc file this code : PS1='${debian_chroot:+($debian_chroot)}\[\033[0;31m\]\u@\h\[\033[00m\]:\[\033[01;34m\]\w\[\033[00m\]\$ ' But i don't know if it change something else except the color of username on terminal. Can someone help me please ?
[09:41] <theTroy> I am using 11.04 and my wifi keeps dropping even after latest update. I cannot seem to install the maverik-wifi-backport modules,since it depends on the previous kernel, which is not in repos for natty. Any help please?
[09:42] <ivorybishop_> Just my 2 cents, I used Wubi for a few months even after my windows quit booting, I finally performed a full install and man is it a much better experience
[09:42] <happy_sadist> Sorry, quick nooby question guys
[09:42] <happy_sadist> I recently started using ubuntu
[09:42] <Starminn> !11.04 | theTroy
[09:42] <happy_sadist> kk thanks
[09:42] <theTroy> thanks
[09:48] <quang> ahh
[09:49] <quang> finally got lubuntu running on this 256 MB ram dell c450 laptop
[09:49] <quang> bios does not support usb boot
[09:49] <quang> ubiquity crashes here and there because of the RAM size
[09:49] <quang> hic
[09:50] <ikonia> quang: ok ?
[09:50] <quang> finally used the lubuntu alternate cd
[09:50] <quang> and install it with the text mode installer
[09:50] <ikonia> quang: do you need support ?
[09:50] <quang> dunno if you have it mentioned somewhere in your docs
[09:50] <Jon--> I want to go to make a keyboard shortcut to go to a specific workspace
[09:51] <Jon--> how can I do this?
[09:51] <quang> but it is highly recommended to use the alternate cds for vintage hardware
[09:51] <Daniel0108> Jon--: sudo apt-get install ccsm && ccsm
[09:51] <ikonia> quang not always
[09:52] <Jon--> I have the full compiz config settings manager
[09:52] <Jon--> where is the setting?
[09:52] <ohsix> Daniel0108: compizconfig-settings-manager
[09:52] <ohsix> Jon--: the actions plugin
[09:52] <Daniel0108> ohsix: oh okay, thought it's the same name :P
[09:53] <Jon--> Actions plugin?
[09:53] <Jon--> I don't see that
[09:53] <Danielcg25> I'm going to install Ubuntu 10.10 tomorrow on my 2011 MacBook Pro
[09:54] <Danielcg25> Is there anything I should know?
[09:54] <Daniel0108> Jon--: Click on General Options
[09:55] <Jon--> Daniel0108, then?
[09:55] <Daniel0108> Jon--: oh wait sorry, It's under Rotate Cube --> Bindings
[09:55] <Daniel0108> Jon--: do you have the rotate cube effect?
[09:55] <Jon--> I just use wall
[09:55] <ohsix> Jon--: hm
[09:55] <Daniel0108> Jon--: There's also Desktop Wall --> Bindings
[09:56] <ohsix> Jon--: you need to set the bindings in whatever plugin you're using for switching desktops
[09:56] <Daniel0108> ohsix: that's what I said :)
[09:56] <Jon--> Indeed but I don't see a way to bind a key to a specific workspace or in order by number or something
[09:56] <Jon--> Let me look more carefully
[09:56] <Daniel0108> Jon--: okay
[09:56] <ohsix> there is for the cube switcher
[09:56] <Jon--> Indeed, there is not
[09:56] <Jon--> I guess I have to use cube if I want this feature?
[09:57] <technikfreak> hello if my netbook with ubuntu 10.10 goes into the sleepmode it doesnt come back, than i ahve to shut off hardly
[09:57] <Eryn_1983_FL> hey peeps
[09:57] <technikfreak> what could i do that it only locks
[09:57] <[thor]> Jon--: Viewport Switcher
[09:57] <Jon--> technikfreak, are you on your netbook in this IRC?
[09:57] <[thor]> Jon--: that is where you can set shortcuts to flip to specific desktops
[09:58] <ohsix> Jon--: wall only has up down left right controls, since it's 2d and not numbered
[09:58] <technikfreak> yeas
[09:58] <Daniel0108> Jon--: Viewport Switcher --> Go to specific viewport
[09:58] <Jon--> thanks [thor]
[09:58] <ilius> where is the download page for unity?
[09:58] <Jon--> technikfreak, Are you sure it's only sleeping? Try to select Suspend from the menu and see if it does the same thing   I was going to suggest this but.. well, you'll be a few minutes if you do this and you crash ;)
[09:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> when ever i try to open up a  folder in  gnome  my  video player  trys to open it..
[09:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> strange eh?
[09:58] <technikfreak> ok i will test
[09:58] <technikfreak> moment
[09:58] <Jon--> technikfreak, wait
[09:58] <Eryn_1983_FL> its in the  gnome menu that it does it
[09:59] <Daniel0108> Eryn_1983_FL: right click on the folder
[09:59] <Jon--> Before you do, System-> Preferences-> Power Management.
[09:59] <Daniel0108> Open with another Application
[09:59] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok..
[09:59] <Jon--> You can adjust settings in there, in the event that you can't get back in here :)
[09:59] <Daniel0108> Eryn_1983_FL: and choose Nautilus
[09:59] <ilius> there is no download page in http://unity.ubuntu.com/projects/unity/
[09:59] <Daniel0108> Eryn_1983_FL: Nautilus or file browser ;)
[10:00] <technikfreak> on the advacned settingsß
[10:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> neither
[10:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> place in the  gnome menu
[10:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> maverick  version.
[10:00] <Jon--> technikfreak, If suspend crashes you
[10:00] <Eryn_1983_FL> its a  issue  from karmic though  i upgrade from there.
[10:01] <Jon--> technikfreak, then set it to not suspend when you close your lid and you are not on AC power
[10:01] <Jon--> I asked you to test to see if it was Hibernate that was messing you up instead of suspend.
[10:01] <Jon--> It's odd that suspend will fail. Hibernate is known to have issues though.
[10:01] <Eryn_1983_FL> ok i got it  i had to change  the open with file browser
[10:01] <Jon--> So, do test it, top right menu, suspend.
[10:02] <ohsix> Jon--: if theres enough swap to hibernate, its the same mechanism as suspend after its written
[10:02] <technikfreak> ok
[10:02] <technikfreak> but i have only logg of shoutdown
[10:02] <technikfreak> or restart
[10:03] <Jon--> Suspend is not there? Odd.
[10:03] <technikfreak> no
[10:03] <technikfreak> but after sometimes it goes autoamtically in this mode
[10:03] <technikfreak> but i didn't configured this setting and explizict deactvited this
[10:03] <Kawohi> by default, file icons for extensions... .css, .html, .js is plain. is there any icon themes that are different?
[10:03] <technikfreak> strange behavior
[10:04] <m2_> Hello all.  I have an Ubuntu install that I've been working to get a Linksys WUSB600n stick working on.  I can make it work, but it seems every time there is any kind of upgrade to the system, it requires me to go in again and re-setup everything.  Any ideas on how I can make it "stick?"
[10:04] <nyuszika7h> Hi! Is it possible to notify when battery is fully charged?
[10:04] <Jon--> is apmsleep the same command invoked by the gnome-panel sleep?
[10:05] <Jon--> I've never heard of someone not having suspend in the indicator applet before
[10:05] <Jon--> I don't want to steer this person wrong
[10:05] <technikfreak> i have xubuntu
[10:05] <Jon--> that'd do it. I'm using gnome =)
[10:05] <Jon--> one sec
[10:06] <technikfreak> thanks a lot for your great and friendly help!
[10:06] <Jon--> No worries
[10:07] <Jon--> technikfreak, I'm going to add them back to your menu, okay? Go to Settings -> Settings Editor
[10:07] <technikfreak> ok
[10:07] <Jon--> Browse to xfce4-session -> shutdown  select the ShowSuspend (click the pencil) and then tick Value: Enabled
[10:07] <Jon--> Please also do the same for ShowHibernate
[10:08] <Jon--> This will add Hibernate and Suspend to your menu. It won't do anything to how your computer does them automatically
[10:08] <madsj> is there a standard file that I should put my firewall rules which is run by default on startup?
[10:08] <technikfreak> yeah
[10:08] <technikfreak> now the settings are there
[10:08] <Jon--> After that, test suspend
[10:08] <Jon--> See if it does break again
[10:08] <technikfreak> why does make xubuntu not automatically crazy
[10:08] <technikfreak> ok
[10:08] <technikfreak> give me a minute
[10:09] <Jon--> I'll stay awake.
[10:09] <Jon--> :P
[10:09] <ohsix> madsj: yes, if you're using ufw (which ubuntu does by default) you'll find the man page for ufw-framework enlightening
[10:11] <madsj> ohsix: what about iptables?
[10:11] <madsj> I don't know what the advantage or disadvantages between the two are
[10:12] <ohsix> madsj: it invokes iptables for you, and you can have arbitrary iptables rules that wont get clobbered
[10:12] <technikfreak> so
[10:13] <jk4lp> so
[10:13] <technikfreak> it works great but i don't asked me about login
[10:13] <technikfreak> ect..
[10:13] <jqke> hi all, i run 10.04 on a laptop. When i plug my tv on the vga output, shut the laptop screen and then open it up, ubuntu die. Any idea how i can fix that ?
[10:13] <technikfreak> but if i go away it goes into a other modus the netbook is urnning but i can't do anything
[10:13] <snow_ru> hi
[10:13] <snow_ru> hello
[10:13] <snow_ru> I upgrade to 10.10 from 10.4 and it crashed :(
[10:13] <Jon--> I understand
[10:14] <Neo_Kipling> Yeah, upstart trigger irssi well :exec su neo -c 'sleep 15;screen -dmS irctor torsocks irssi'
[10:14] <Jon--> Suspend worked however?
[10:14] <Axlin> madsj: using ufw via command line is effective. but if you want a GUI solution, i find gufw to work pretty well. it's really just a GUI front end to ufw
[10:14] <snow_ru> is there anyway to reinstall 10.4 keeping all /home directory ?
[10:14] <Jon--> technikfreak, Were you able to suspend and recover ok?
[10:15] <jk4lp> jqke: try setting the laptop monitor not to turn off when you close it
[10:15] <technikfreak> yeah
[10:15] <Jon--> Go into your power management and make sure it isn't set to "Hibernate" anywhere in there. Also set what settings you want when you close the lid on AC, off AC power, etc. Go nuts.
[10:15] <ohsix> snow_ru: why do you want to reinstall? are you afraid you damaged package managed files?
[10:15] <cfedde> snow_ru: the easiest is to back it up elsewhere, do the install then restore home
[10:15] <Jon--> I have a feeling that may be the problem
[10:15] <snow_ru> ok
[10:15] <technikfreak> ok thanks a lot for your help and a rest of the weekend
[10:15] <Neo_Kipling> weird thing, upstart can't trigger tor, cron can't trigger screen irssi, anybody know why?
[10:15] <Jon--> If it's not set to hibernate anywhere, then I'm wrong. If it is set to hibernate after a long time of inactivity or something, that was probably what did it
[10:17] <Jon--> sleepy times.
[10:17] <Sky[x]> Subversion client for Ubuntu: anything like TortoiseSVN?
[10:17] <jqke> jk4lp: i'd like to but the only option i can select are : shutdown, shut the screen down, hibernate, sleep
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> Neo_Kipling:  theres a tor wiki page or 2 out for using it with ubuntu. You made a custom upstart tor config for it?
[10:19] <maxvagabond> Help. I tried unity on 10.10 and it's wrecked my ubuntu install. :(
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> maxvagabond:  uninstall it perhaps?
[10:20] <maxvagabond> xorg took about 58% of a processor and everything went jerky.
[10:20] <maxvagabond> i uninstalled it and rebooted and now x doesn't seem to work. :(
[10:20] <Dr_Willis> reinstall the ubuntu-desktop package perhaps.
[10:20] <maxvagabond> ok, thanks
[10:21] <Neo_Kipling> Dr_Willis: yes, and we talk about that earlier, it's has error
[10:22] <maxvagabond> Neo_Kipling: other people have been having problems with unity on 10.10
[10:22] <Dr_Willis> You could just start tor from rc.local and not use upstart as a work around.
[10:22] <maxvagabond> ?
[10:23] <maxvagabond> sorry, what's the command to reinstall the ubuntu-desktop?
[10:23] <ohsix> maxvagabond: how did you install it
[10:24] <maxvagabond> apt-get install unity
[10:24] <nyuszika7h> How can I install LibreOffice? 'sudo apt-get install libreoffice' doesn't work, and apt-cache haven't found it either.
[10:24] <[thor]> maxvagabond: apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:24] <Neo_Kipling> maxvagabond, yes i think so. and Dr_Willis, i trigger tor with cron, we allways have anther way
[10:24] <rww> !libreoffice | nyuszika7h
[10:24] <maxvagabond> [thor]: it tells me that it's already the newest version
[10:25] <[thor]> maxvagabond: if it gives you "already newest version" use apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop
[10:25] <maxvagabond> thanks
[10:26] <ohsix> [thor]: that'll just install the virtual
[10:27] <maxvagabond> I tried apt-get --reinstall install ubuntu-desktop and i'm still getting a featureless white screen when i log in. :(
[10:27] <maxvagabond> somethings really broken
[10:28] <ohsix> maxvagabond: you can pick the failsafe session on the login screen; just purge unity
[10:28] <maxvagabond> ohsix: how do i purge it?
[10:28] <Ben64> whats the CTRL+<key> for escape? Kind of like how CTRL+I is <Tab>
[10:28] <ohsix> apt-get purge unity
[10:28] <maxvagabond> thanks ohsix
[10:29] <hypnocharles> Hello, mekwall! Welcome to the ubuntu chat room.
[10:29] <Dr_Willis> Ben64:  i think in some apps its ctrl-[ or ctrl-]
[10:29] <hypnocharles> Hello, bonhoffer! Welcome to the ubuntu chat room.
[10:29] <maxvagabond> unity is not installed, so is not removed. :(
[10:29] <home-alone> hi suggest me pdf format magazine about ubuntu and linux in general
[10:29] <maxvagabond> god, my system is so screwed now. :(
[10:29] <ohsix> then you didn't install it like that
[10:30] <maxvagabond> ohsix: i did
[10:30] <maxvagabond> i used apt-get install
[10:30] <Ben64> Dr_Willis: thanks!
[10:35] <crlcan81> I've got a large selection of music files, including quite a few from a single artist, that are duplicated but on different albums, is there any organization/tagging program that would be good for someone who's not done that kind of stuff before?
[10:36] <rdw200169> crlcan81: musicbrainz (i can't remember the package name off the top of my head, hold on)
[10:36] <crlcan81> I can find it
[10:36] <crlcan81> I've got it's newest version up already
[10:36] <crlcan81> I just wanted to make sure that was the best kind of program for that.
[10:36] <ohsix> you could find a set of albums that minimizes the duplicates; but if you organize by album theres not much you can do to avoid dupes; the same song is often different across albums too
[10:36] <rdw200169> crlcan81: picard (apt-get install picard) … http://musicbrainz.org/doc/PicardDownload
[10:36]  * crlcan81 nods
[10:36] <frold> any way to reinstall 10.10 My system will not start up after I did something like sudo terskel remove lamp-server
[10:37] <crlcan81> I know rdw, that's what I'm lokoing at.
[10:37] <rdw200169> crlcan81: heh, sorry, i was working on replying, and not reading what you were saying ;)
[10:37] <crlcan81> the only 'organizing by album' that's done is when the media player opens em, I just dump them all into the same folder, without any subfolders
[10:38] <ohsix> wow, that is unfortunate
[10:38] <crlcan81> Why I want to find a program to easily find dups and delete/retag
[10:38] <ohsix> it would probably be faster to make al ist of albums then get them all again
[10:38] <crlcan81> because I've got easily over 1000 music files, before this single artist and all his dupes I only had 612
[10:39] <misha> hey guys. I want to change permissions on my USB with root, but it always write to me: "You don't have enough privileges", can someone help?
[10:39] <crlcan81> not for this.. it took me easily ten fifteen minutes just removing the cover art from the selection.
[10:39] <nyuszika7h> misha: Are you using sudo?
[10:39] <misha> of course
[10:39] <nyuszika7h> Strange... root can access everything...
[10:39] <crlcan81> because it came in subfolders
[10:39] <misha> i'm on gksudo
[10:40] <misha> if it metters
[10:40] <WesternDigital> huhu
[10:40] <nyuszika7h> misha: don't run nautilus as root. use terminal instead.
[10:40] <ikonia> nyuszika7h: why ?
[10:40] <sokol> ку
[10:40] <ikonia> gksudo nautilus is fine
[10:40] <misha> i tried chmod it didn't helped to
[10:40] <nyuszika7h> ikonia: somebody told me that yesterday
[10:40] <ikonia> nyuszika7h: it's fine to launch it with gksudo
[10:41] <nyuszika7h> oh
[10:41] <misha> i just want to change the folder access for others to access files instead of none
[10:41] <wandernauta> Hey all, how would one back up private SSH keys? I change OSes a lot and don't want to generate a new set of keys every time I do. Is there something like gpg --export-secret-key for SSH?
[10:41] <frold> how safe is it to run Ubuntu 11.04?
[10:41] <atlef> !natty | frold
[10:42] <ohsix> wandernauta: you use openssl to convert/export/generate them
[10:42] <rdw200169> wandernauta: i think the safest way would be (bear with me) set up a truecrypt file on a dropbox provider (i.e. dropbox.com) and store your secret in there
[10:42] <ohsix> wandernauta: but you can also manage keys with seahorse and use them with ssh
[10:42] <ohsix> rdw200169: AGH
[10:42] <lyoto> #legnica
[10:42] <lyoto> hello all
[10:42] <misha> anyone knows what to do? it's important
[10:42] <ohsix> encryption isn't about safety, it's about access control; and truecrypt is about showing off
[10:43] <ikonia> misha: what's the actual problem ?
[10:43] <wollex> hey
[10:43] <wandernauta> ohsix: Seahorse! Of course! Thanks.
[10:43] <misha> i try to change the Folder Access of my usb to "Access files" but I can't it always returns to "None"
[10:43] <ohsix> wandernauta: protect your keys :]
[10:43] <ikonia> misha: what file system is on your usb drive ?
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> misha:  a usb flash drive - using what filesystem? you want all users to have full access?
[10:44] <wandernauta> rdw200169: Yeah, I'm planning something like that. But I'll store it on my own web space and not Dropbox's :) I have some distrust of the Cloud.
[10:44] <misha> msdos and yes
[10:44] <ohsix> wandernauta: never let private keys out of your custody
[10:44] <ikonia> misha: ok, so that is a fat file system, that doesn't support permissions
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> misha:  you could install and run the 'ntfs-config' tool - that should let you give all users full access. when it automounts it.
[10:45] <wandernauta> ohsix: But in any case, an attacker would need the private key *and* the password to do anything, right?
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> ive found the ntfs-config tool a little flakey in the last release however. (it may be fixed by now)
[10:45] <ohsix> misha: ntfs/fat and other filesystems don't support posix permissions, so you can't change them
[10:45] <ohsix> misha: to use fuse and let other peopel access you need allow_other; but you also need permissions, so it is not wise to do
[10:46] <Dr_Willis> misha:  you dont chown/chmod a ntfs/vfat - the optopns/permissions need to be set at mount time.  You dont change them after they are mounted.
[10:47] <misha> i've installed ntfs-config but it can't find my usb
[10:47] <ikonia> is it running ntfs file system or fat ?
[10:47] <ohsix> wandernauta: it's still not a good idea, you can easily loose track of an old key and have a local problem (someone saw your password, or something else) that make all those extra copies a liability
[10:48] <wandernauta> ohsix: Very true.
[10:48] <rdw200169> it seems like every time i try to come in here and give out some help, there is always *cough cough* somebody who slaps around other helpful people.  I understand that there are people who may or may not know more than I.  Regardless, this is not a forum for those arguments.  See y'all again in 6 months. *end rant*
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> ntfs-config  has a check box i recall to allow all users full access to all ntfs/flash/fat  0 that may not be what you want.
[10:48] <ohsix> misha: if you want to do it properly you need to mount the thing with fuse/ntfs-3g as some user; then use something like posixovl on top of it, with allow_other
[10:49] <ohsix> Dr_Willis: even if you can do it and assume no malicious user will be deleting things, you remove all access control
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> Yep. thats sort of what he asked for. -    I think. :)
[10:50] <wandernauta> ohsix: I lose track of old keys all the time, that's why I'm making backups. The weakest link in my files' security is me, I'm sure of that. Oh well.
[10:50] <ohsix> wandernauta: put them on a usb stick or something and o nly store them there
[10:50] <home-alone> hi how can i learn basic ubuntu cli
[10:50] <misha> the filesystem of the USB is fat, i'll check now the stuff you wrote :)
[10:50] <ohsix> wandernauta: losing them and losing access isn't as bad as losing them and not knowing to whom :]
[10:50] <atlef> !cli | home-alone
[10:51] <wandernauta> ohsix: Hmm, I don't think that'll help - I lose USB sticks like other people lose socks :]
[10:51] <ohsix> misha: in that case you can have the kernel mount it and give it a uid with full access; then run posixovl to put permissions on top as that uid
[10:53] <wandernauta> Anyways, Seahorse worked a charm, thanks ohsix and rdw200169. I'm off :)
[10:53] <home-alone> nice link . but i would really appriciate if you could tell me a pdf ebook to learn basic cli
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> home-alone:  it would be 'bash ussage' actually.
[10:54] <Dr_Willis> home-alone:  and ther are dozens of free books an guides out there on the web on learning it.
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> check http://delicious.com/ under the bash tutorial tags.
[11:01] <MAXIMIL> HEY I NEED SOME HELP UBUNTU KEEPS FLASHING AND REBOOTING WHAT IS GOING ON?????????
[11:01] <BlouBlou> MAXIMIL: remove camsp
[11:01] <BlouBlou> caps
[11:02] <MAXIMIL> WHAT IS THE COMMAND TO REMOVE CAMSP?
[11:02] <BlouBlou> MAXIMIL: stop it, please
[11:03] <lilstevie> the command to remove caps is one key over to the left from the "a" button
[11:03] <[thor]> maximil: when does the machine reboot? immediately? or after reaching the gdm login? or at the desktop?
[11:04] <[thor]> maximil: can you access grub? ( hold left-shift during boot )
[11:04] <MAXIMIL> right where it loads the desktop wallpaper. after that it doesn't bring up login or anything
[11:08] <kevin__> #ubuntu
[11:08] <kevin__> hello i'm new to irc
[11:09] <vultraz> how do I uninstall Ubuntu?
[11:09] <kevin__> get a new os
[11:09] <vultraz> ?
[11:09] <[thor]> !hi | kevin__
[11:10] <kevin__> Ubuntu is an operating system. it just a program
[11:10] <erUSUL> vultraz: dualboot? reinstall the windows bootloader with a windows install disk ( ## windows can help with that ) then format the ubuntu space to something windows can use (ntfs)
[11:10] <vultraz> and hello kevin_
[11:10] <kevin__> *not just a prgram
[11:10] <kevin__> What he said
[11:10] <vultraz> yes I am dualboot but I can't boot into Vista
[11:10] <erUSUL> vultraz: or resize the windows partition
[11:11] <vultraz> and I don't have the install disk
[11:11] <vultraz> if I didn'y have Ubuntu there would be a screen with a safe mode option
[11:11] <vultraz> but I don't get that now now I have the GRUM
[11:11] <vultraz> GRUB
[11:11] <kevin__> Are you sure vista is still on your system?
[11:12] <vultraz> yes I can access everything from the Ubuntu side
[11:12] <vultraz> but can't boot into it
[11:12] <kevin__> Okay so Ubuntu and vista are on the same hard drive i assume right?
[11:13] <vultraz> I only get a black screen with a cursor after the green  windows loading bar
[11:13] <vultraz> yes
[11:13] <suigeneris> hello
[11:13] <suigeneris> can anybody help me debug why dig example.net is answering when dig ns example.net isn't?
[11:13] <kevin__> Hmmmm and you don't have the Vista install disk either right?
[11:14] <vultraz> no it came preinstalled so I only have a recovery partition
[11:14] <[thor]> using the recovery will most likely overwrite the boot record
[11:15] <[thor]> i know that the gateway recovery does that, resets to factory default
[11:15] <kevin__> That's true. Can you  computer boot from a flash drive?
[11:15] <[thor]> and takes down grub in the process
[11:15]  * suigeneris shakes fist at vultraz's computer manufacturer
[11:15] <dr0id> hi guys, executed "rm -rf * /*" by mistake, lost loads of files, how do I recover ? :( :( :(
[11:16] <atlef> !testdisk | dr0id
[11:16] <ohsix> dr0id: restore from backups
[11:16] <dr0id> ohsix: don't have any backup
[11:16] <ohsix> dr0id: also when you reinstall, install safe-rm
[11:16] <kevin__> Okay first off back up all of your data vultraz.
[11:16] <dr0id> :(
[11:17] <dr0id> lost loads of sensitive data
[11:17] <dr0id> no way to recover ?
[11:17] <erUSUL> !undelete
[11:17] <chalet16> I'm unable to seek flac audio in rhythmbox but I'm able to do this in movie player. How can I fix this?
[11:17] <atlef> dr0id: testdisk/photorec can also recover lost files
[11:18] <dr0id> WILL NEVER USE rm -rf AGAIN IN MY LIFE. HAS HAPPENED TO ME BEFORE TOO :( :( :(
[11:18] <ohsix> dr0id: if you haven't booted it and immediately remounted it ro, you might be able to get some of the files back, but unless it's FAT (and if it's / it isn't) good luck
[11:18] <dr0id> I'll check thanks
[11:19] <erUSUL> you know -r is enough for directories... dunno where the obsession with using -f too comes
[11:19] <ohsix> erUSUL: cargo cult
[11:19] <kevin__> hey vultraz needs help.
[11:19] <snow_ru> hleo
[11:20] <ohsix> it's rarely mentioned in a contest with -r, and without -f
[11:20] <erUSUL> ohsix: true enough :)
[11:20] <dr0id> :(
[11:21] <jiltdil> my laptop mouse pad is not working
[11:21] <ohsix> dr0id: i've usesd deja-dup for backups (it uses ubiquity) pretty successfully
[11:21] <dr0id> I came to office to learn something new today, and have messed up everythin
[11:21] <dr0id> bloody hell
[11:21] <jiltdil> please help me to fix this .this occurs after installing ubuntu
[11:22] <jiltdil> my laptop mouse pad is not working after installing ubuntu help me to fix
[11:22] <jiltdil> sorry touchpad**
[11:23] <ohsix> jiltdil: macbook?
[11:23] <jiltdil> ohsix:????
[11:23] <nyuszika7h> Is it a good idea to copy my gedit settings to root's one? It seems I need to run gedit with gksudo many times (read-only files, e.g. php.ini) but the settings don't match...
[11:24] <ohsix> nyuszika7h: best to get comfy with a terminal text editor
[11:24] <nyuszika7h> Or is there any way for gedit to ask for password when it couldn't save the file as nyuszika7h?
[11:24] <erUSUL> ohsix: anyway, the wiki page has usefull info if you want to attemp the recovery yourself https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery <<< first and foremost make an image of the disk/partition and work in the image
[11:24] <nyuszika7h> ohsix: Yeah, I'm going through vimtutor right now...
[11:24] <administrator>   
[11:24] <administrator> \
[11:24] <administrator> ,;fds'
[11:24] <jiltdil> i have one question i am sending a movie to my friend but it is failing saying that not a regular file
[11:24] <FloodBot3> administrator: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:24] <erUSUL> ohsix: sorry
[11:24] <nyuszika7h> vim looks very powerful :)
[11:24] <erUSUL> dr0id: anyway, the wiki page has usefull info if you want to attemp the recovery yourself https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery <<< first and foremost make an image of the disk/partition and work in the image
[11:25] <ohsix> erUSUL: yea i know how to not do too much damage myself; but its for the _next_ time, cuz people always do stuff after they lose data
[11:25] <dr0id> erUSUL: lets see, I am not linux/ubuntu geek :(
[11:25] <erUSUL> ohsix: again; the message was meant for dr0id
[11:25] <atlef> nyuszika7h: why don't you set up gedit when running it as root
[11:25] <misha> hey. I'm working now on some script in PHP and I need that the web server user (www-date) connect to the root, anyone have a tip how to do it?
[11:26] <CGo> Hey guys. I've got a graphics card that's in principle working, using the nVidia driver, but the monitor is autoconfigured by the system as an unknown CRT screen. I remember in older distros I could manually set this to LCD along with a maximum resolution, but that option has been removed by the geniuses at Canonical. What should I do now?
[11:27] <dr0id> erUSUL: why did the files not go to trash ? :P
[11:27] <ohsix> erUSUL: i know :]
[11:27] <erUSUL> dr0id: you did not used the gui :P. deltree in Windows does not use trash either XD
[11:28] <nyuszika7h> atlef: Adding every style manually is a real hassle... it seems I can't add multiple at one unless I copy the contents of the styles folder.
[11:28] <dr0id> erUSUL: SUCKS MAN :(
[11:28] <nyuszika7h> s/one/one time/
[11:28] <ohsix> CGo: you better be sure of yourself when you make statements like that
[11:28] <jobbos> howdy folks!
[11:29] <CGo> ohsix, after trying to figure out alternatives for six months and coming up dry everytime, I'm skeptical.
[11:29] <Jackneill> http://codepad.org/QR7N2VWZ can you help me with monodevelop and mozilla error?
[11:29] <ohsix> CGo: your skepticism does not fact make
[11:29] <jobbos> First time ubuntu noob
[11:30] <erUSUL> CGo: « gksudo nvidia-settings »
[11:30] <mimor> hello jobbos
[11:30] <ohsix> CGo: you should probably ask nvidia for support if it truly is lost on you
[11:30] <CGo> ohsix, we're both men of empiricism I presume. Let's just scratch that.
[11:30] <jobbos> hi momor
[11:30] <jobbos> oops!
[11:30] <CGo> ohsix, it doesn't have anything to do with the graphics card though.
[11:30] <jobbos> mimor
[11:30] <CGo> If I'm missing something stupid here please correct me.
[11:30] <ohsix> CGo: it does
[11:30] <CGo> All I know  is it worked perfectly until 8.10 came out.
[11:31] <mimor> jobbos: how're you experiencing Ubuntu?
[11:31] <CGo> Things were stripped and moved around, and it all started failing
[11:31] <ohsix> i told you before that the monitors edid is wrong/missing, you need to add the modes yourself
[11:31] <jobbos> I really like the OS
[11:31] <erUSUL> CGo: you can still use /etc/X11/xorg.conf if you want to do that; if that's wwhat you are complaining about
[11:31] <mimor> jobbos: glad to hear that :)
[11:31] <CGo> Yeah.
[11:31] <misha> hey guys. I'm working now on some script in PHP and I need that the web server user (www-date) connect to the root, anyone have a tip how to do it?
[11:32] <mimor> jobbos: If you would have questions, feel free to ask them here
[11:32] <erUSUL> misha: define "web server user (www-date) connect to the root" ?
[11:32] <jobbos> Just want to learn how to get along with IRC lol
[11:32] <mimor> jobbos: what client (program) are you using?
[11:32] <mimor> Xchat?
[11:32] <misha> well when I do "echo exec('whoami');" it shows www-data
[11:32] <jobbos> XChat-Gnome
[11:33] <misha> i need it to login the root
[11:33] <erUSUL> misha: you want to run something as root?
[11:33] <misha> yes
[11:33] <CGo> To illustrate my point, I can and have disabled the nVidia driver. I don't need compiz. But the monitor is still unrecognized. Altering the xorg config caused it to fail to launch, or (most often) just ignore my settings.
[11:33] <CGo> I'm probably doing something wrong here but I'm at my wits end now.
[11:33] <sagaci> misha: what do you need to run
[11:33] <erUSUL> CGo: again try with the nvidia tools --> « gksudo nvidia-settings »
[11:33] <ohsix> CGo: if you're not using the nvidia driver then you can use xrandr to add modes and attach them to outputs
[11:34] <CGo> ohsix, they get ignored
[11:34] <misha> it will be kind of control panel
[11:34] <CGo> Eh well I'll try again, I'm speaking from past experiences now..
[11:34] <sagaci> misha: what's the program
[11:34] <ohsix> CGo: if you set them right and attached them, then you switch to them
[11:34] <CGo> erUSUL, nvidia tools work flawlessly, but are bound by the maximum resolution imposed by the monitor.
[11:35] <stimpie> anyone knows how to rename workspaces using the unity interface?
[11:35] <jobbos> Can anyone tell this noob how i might register my nick name please
[11:35] <ohsix> CGo: nvidia's tool has something like it, also they document how to configure it via .conf
[11:35] <misha> sagaci: it will be backup data from my computer to my USB
[11:35] <misha> and other small stuff that I need
[11:35] <sagaci> misha: you don't need root for that
[11:35] <CGo> ohsix, I'll check it out after I unwind with some tea.
[11:35] <CGo> Thanks.
[11:36] <sagaci> misha: if it's just under your home folder, you could just use nautilus and copy+paste the files
[11:36] <misha> I can't backup root data without being as root
[11:36] <stimpie> jobbos: /msg NickServ help register
[11:36] <ohsix> CGo: natty ships nouveau; you can get some acceleration & xrandr if you want to try it out
[11:36] <misha> sagaci: it's PHP aplication
[11:37] <CGo> ohsix, I've switched back to Maverick at this point :)
[11:37] <misha> how to use nautilus there?
[11:37] <sagaci> misha: do you want a gui or do you want a command-line
[11:37] <CGo> I just.. I just couldn't man.
[11:37] <sagaci> misha: gksudo nautilus
[11:37] <ohsix> CGo: you don't need to use unity, pick the classic session on the login screen
[11:37] <misha> i know that command, but I can't use it from PHP
[11:37] <erUSUL> misha: make a sudoers entry for www-data making it able to run the espcific thing you want to run as root
[11:37] <jobbos> thanks stimpie
[11:38] <CGo> ohsix,  Oh. Heh.
[11:38] <ohsix> misha: if you want to do this directly from php you're probably doing it wrong
[11:38] <misha> erUSUL: great idea, i'll check it
[11:39] <samitheberber> erUSUL and misha: that sounds a security risk for me o.O
[11:40] <erUSUL> misha: but listen to ohsix probably make a php script that can be triggered from remote systems be able to run stuff as root is not the wisest idea ever ....
[11:40] <swatto> Hey all, im having issues getting Xchat to start up minimized to systray, i got a little bash script that runs which is just 'xchat minimize=2' (excluding quotes)...the application loads on startup but doesn't appear in systray and i can't see that its running unless i view with top
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  i was thinking there was an extra xchat package to add the min to systray feature.
[11:41] <samitheberber> misha: so what is your ultimate goal? I didn't really get that from backlog
[11:41] <jk4lp> anyone know a place to find more nmap scripts
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  does that command work from a terminal?
[11:42] <ohsix> jk4lp: fingers
[11:43] <jk4lp> ohsix: fingers?
[11:43] <jk4lp> do u mean os finger?
[11:43] <misha> samitheberber: it will be kind of small aplication that will be run every 24 hours by cron, it will backup my files and some little stuff
[11:44] <samitheberber> misha: and you want to use php, because that is the language you know?
[11:44] <misha> yes
[11:44] <samitheberber> and how you run that php-script?
[11:45] <samitheberber> in that cron call
[11:45] <misha> i'll think about that later, for now i need to build it
[11:46] <gandalfcome> Is there a channel for help with makefiles?
[11:46] <gedO> hello
[11:46] <samitheberber> misha: how you test it right now?
[11:46] <stimpie> can i use a shortcut to go to a window demanding attention?
[11:46] <ypxlf> hello
[11:46] <gedO> how to upload to ubuntu one files via nautilus??
[11:46] <mah454> where is /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions in ubuntu ?
 what do yo mean by test?
[11:47] <stimpie> gedO just sync a directory and ubuntu one should sync in the background
[11:47] <samitheberber> misha: are you running that in cli with php-command or in browser?
[11:47] <gedO> stimpie, how to syng?
[11:47] <samitheberber> misha: because www-data user feels like you are running it in browser
[11:47] <misha> yes in browser, why?
[11:47] <gedO> stimpie, Do I have to move files to ubunto one directory?
[11:48] <stimpie> if you run the ubuntu one application you can specify which directories to sync
[11:48] <akashm1990> Could someone help me with this ? -- http://askubuntu.com/questions/34356/user-permissions
[11:48] <ikonia> akashm1990: just ask your question
[11:49] <stimpie> gedO: or in nautilus right click a folder, goto ubuntu one and specify to sync
[11:49] <mah454> where is /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions in ubuntu ?
[11:49] <jk4lp> akashm1990:  did you chmod
[11:49] <samitheberber> misha: if you are planning to make it cron, you should focus to run it from cli
[11:49] <ohsix> mah454: ubuntu uses upstart, it probably ditched all the stuff like that
[11:49] <samitheberber> misha: then you get the rights of the user, who run it
[11:49] <gedO> stimpie, there is no ubuntu one
[11:49] <gedO> stimpie, thene I right click
[11:50] <akashm1990> ikonia, jk4lp What I need to do is give a user rwx permissions to all files in a folder, but nothing outside it. Also he must not be able to change system settings.
[11:50] <akashm1990> what would be the appropriate chmod
[11:50] <gedO> stimpie, sorry. Finded
[11:50] <samitheberber> misha: you can run it from cli by typing: php my_backup_script.php
[11:50] <gedO> stimpie, sorry. Found
[11:51] <jk4lp> akashm1990: im not sure, google chmod options and it shoudl answer your question
[11:51] <jk4lp> i know 777 makes it wide open full read and rite
[11:51] <misha> samitheberber: thanks for the tips :)
[11:51] <ikonia> akashm1990: what directory do you want to give him permisions to
[11:51] <ohsix> theres also the manual page
[11:51] <akashm1990> yes, thats the issue
[11:51] <samitheberber> misha: because if you run it from browser and you have your webserver to access from internet, everyone can run your script
[11:52] <akashm1990> ikonia, There will be a randomly generated directory. Making a kind of code evaluation system
[11:52] <samitheberber> misha: and later if you make some script where people can run something and you have root-rights from those script, something very bad can happen
[11:52] <ikonia> akashm1990: what is this mechanism for ?
[11:52] <akashm1990> 1st thing I want to make sure of is that the program should not do the dangerous commands of the type rm -rf
[11:53] <misha> samitheberber: no one can enter my webserver from outside
[11:53] <samitheberber> misha: ok, so it listen only localhost?
[11:53] <jk4lp> akashm1990:  couldnt you alawys remove the user from the root  sudo groups
[11:53] <misha> samitheberber: yes
[11:53] <LarsTorben> !ubottu
[11:53] <gamedrive> Hi guys. Plymouth is really bugging me. When I run plymouth manually to test a theme, it is not displaying the correct one (specified using update-alternatives --config default.plymouth). The correct theme is displayed during boot. What's wrong ?
[11:54] <samitheberber> misha: good :)
[11:54] <akashm1990> ikonia, the basic flow is user submits source via php, source saved to a randomly named directory, compiled and executed and output redirected to a file
[11:54] <ohsix> misha: they can from the inside; you can't trust the browser either
[11:54] <akashm1990> this file is then displayed
[11:54] <samitheberber> misha: but it is still very dangerous to have www-data in sudo-group
[11:54] <ikonia> akashm1990: tricky to script but not impossible
[11:54] <samitheberber> or in sudoer file
[11:55] <misha> but i can limit it no?
[11:55] <akashm1990> ikonia, the main thing i need to make sure of as of now is the code executed shouldnt change anything outside the directory
[11:55] <samitheberber> misha: if you add somebody in sudoer-file, it has full power of your system
[11:55] <misha> www-data    ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: /path/where/i/need
[11:55] <akashm1990> can a user be restricted to a directory?
[11:56] <samitheberber> misha: it doesn't work like that
[11:56] <swatto> Dr_Willis: yep it does - works from the terminal
[11:56] <misha> samitheberber: so how it is works?
[11:57] <ikonia> akashm1990: chroot
[11:57] <samitheberber> misha: if you add someone in sudoer file, it has power of superuser
[11:58] <samitheberber> and superuser can't be limited in some directory or file
[11:58] <akashm1990> ikonia, thx, i think that will do
[11:58] <misha> samitheberber: webmin user has full privileges so how come it isn't danger?
[11:58] <samitheberber> misha: but if you run your script from cli, you have the right of user
[11:58] <ohsix> you can make them a sudoer for an account that is not root, then use group/user permissions to limit what it can touch
[11:59] <ohsix> misha: webmin uses helpers to do things
[12:00] <samitheberber> misha: you can run your script as root, so then it has full powers, but I think that you can make a backup-script without root permissions
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  you could make it  'sleep 10' from the script. so it waits a bit befor starting. It may be the gnome desktop is not fully setup when the script runs.
[12:00] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:  depends on what youmean by restricted.
[12:01] <swatto> Dr_Willis: i will try that, thanks :)
[12:02] <gandalfcome> I have trouble with a makefile (http://paste2.org/p/1355075). I wanted to know what the line $(OBJECTS): $(COMMON) does? Cheers
[12:02] <akashm1990> Dr_Willis, Essentially the program shouldnt be able to mess up the system (barring things like infinite loops, overflows,etc)
[12:02] <ohsix> swatto: proper login stuff is done with a .desktop file; and they have launch/delay/circumstance control
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:  theres all sorts of limits you can put on user ran apps.. but im not clear on your original problem/question.
[12:03] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:  and how that is related to resticting to a directory.
[12:03] <op_amp> I want to start my download automatically 10 min after giving the wget command. Can I some how do this? Mainly I want to time control my terminal command.
[12:03] <ohsix> akashm1990: are you asking about chroot? for general use you want to use containers or something; chroot for a program isn't all that hard, but for a user it is impractical
[12:03] <akashm1990> ohsix, chroot seems to be fine
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> op_amp:  make a script or use 'sleep 10000 && wget commmand'  (changeing the #)
[12:04] <akashm1990> Dr_Willis, 1st step would be to prevent the user from executing commands which damage the system. restricting to a single directory seems to solve those
[12:04] <erUSUL> op_amp: sleep 600 && wget ......   &
[12:04] <ohsix> akashm1990: that just means they can't execute anything
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:  err. they run commands based on their PATH variavble. so i dont see how lockling the user to a single dir would solve anything.
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:   You can restrict their PATH, but they could still enter the full name to a binary.
[12:05] <akashm1990> Dr_Willis, The user wont have access to the computer
[12:06] <akashm1990> Dr_Willis, , the basic flow is user submits source via php, source saved to a randomly named directory, compiled and executed and output redirected to a file
[12:06] <ohsix> their logins won't even work if they have no access to anything
[12:06] <op_amp> Dr_Willis, erUSUL thanks a ton :)
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:   I think thats getting beyond the scope of Ubuntu support.  sounds like you woudl want to do stuff in a virtual machine for extra layers of sandboxing.
[12:06] <erUSUL> op_amp: or use at
[12:07] <akashm1990> Dr_Willis, yes, thats one of the ideas I got, but seemed a bit too extreme
[12:08] <pyry> #ubuntu
[12:08] <ohsix> akashm1990: use tcc's launch & load, remove the access to shared libraries
[12:08] <jrily> hi
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> akashm1990:  what you are tryign to do. sounds a bit odd also. :) but have fun.
[12:08] <jrily> anbody?
[12:08] <pyry> how to install win programs from cd???
[12:09] <ohsix> you can link the code with a stub that enables seccomp before the rest is ran too
[12:09] <ohsix> pyry: ask in #winehq
[12:09] <akashm1990> its academic proof of concept stuff
[12:09] <pyry> ok
[12:09] <pyry> thx
[12:09] <ohsix> akashm1990: well then, don't you need something clever?
[12:09] <ohsix> like they tried to do with nacl
[12:10] <akashm1990> no, something that just works will also do
[12:10] <ohsix> akashm1990: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seccomp
[12:11] <ohsix> if the stub can reasonably be assured to not be compromised that should suffice
[12:11] <mah454> I can not find finctions file in /etc/init.d ...
[12:11] <ohsix> BUT, the act of compiling can be exploited as well
[12:12] <ohsix> mah454: thats because it's not there. what lead you to believe it would be?
[12:12] <akashm1990> ohsix, Not looking for that level of protection
[12:12] <ohsix> akashm1990: there are no half measures
[12:12] <akashm1990> the target give was to prevent rm -rf
[12:12] <madurax86> hello im installing ubuntu 10.10 on a rather old celeron, the installation goes on great but on boot it doesnt load up gui
[12:13] <madurax86> what can i do to get it to use default video config?
[12:13] <ohsix> akashm1990: that'll be stopped
[12:13] <akashm1990> and messing around with other files on the system
[12:13] <mah454> ohsix i install IBSng in ubuntu-server . in IBSng daumon have this line ". /etc/rc.d/init.d/functions"
[12:13] <ohsix> madurax86: unless you created an xorg.conf it should be doing that already
[12:14] <madurax86> ohsix: nope i didnt make a xorg.conf
[12:14] <madurax86> all the checking fails
[12:14] <madurax86> mode checks
[12:14] <Jackneill> anyone can you help me? with monodevelop, when i start it, i get this exception: Unhandled Exception: System.TypeLoadException: A type load exception has occurred.
[12:14] <thedude1> my nm-applet icon is grexed out and says "networkmanager is not running" - what do?
[12:14] <thedude1> *greyed
[12:15] <pyry> no one answers on #winehq
[12:16] <ohsix> pyry: bummer, be patient, we don't do windows software support
[12:16] <erUSUL> thedude1: sudo restart network-manager
[12:16] <IdleOne> pyry: have you installed Wine?
[12:16] <ohsix> thedude1: well, something killed networkmanager or prevented it from istalling
[12:17] <Jackneill> can you help me?
[12:17] <thedude1> erUSUL: "restart: Unknown instance: "
[12:17] <thedude1> ohsix: I just freshly reinstalled it, without problems I thought
[12:17] <ohsix> thedude1: make sure ubuntu-desktop is installed, sounds like someone tricked you into dumping nm
[12:18] <madurax86> ohsix: how to let it work like it worked in the installation?
[12:18] <erUSUL> thedude1: pgrep -l NetworkManager
[12:19] <pyry> yup
[12:19] <thedude1> ohsix: i killed nm myself, the applet disappeared. also "ubuntu-desktop: command not found"
[12:19] <thedude1> erUSUL: no reaction
[12:19] <Autoclesis> solved a weird problem if any care
[12:19] <madurax86> ohsix: im getting this your cpu doesnt have security..bla bla the no execute thing does it affect this?
[12:19] <ohsix> madurax86: dunno, what did you do to make it act any other way?
[12:19] <thedude1> (afk now)
[12:19] <ohsix> madurax86: no
[12:20] <IdleOne> pyry: ok, pop in the install CD and then navigate to the folder with the .exe and double click it.
[12:20] <madurax86> ohsix: dont know just after installing it just says it cant load up x, the log says there are screens but no usable config
[12:21] <ohsix> madurax86: are you using an s3 or via video card?
[12:21] <madurax86> yea
[12:22] <DavidJonas> can anybody help me installing a nagios plugin (script -> http://www.techno-obscura.com/~delgado/code/check_megaraid_sas) I copied it to the nagios libexec folder and gave the right permissions and tested the script. now how do I hook it up to nagios?
[12:22] <madurax86> ohsix: yes
[12:22] <kwtm> erUSUL hangs out here?  I didn't know that.  Anyway, thedude1: instead of "sudo restart network-manager" try "sudo start network-manager"?
[12:22] <Autoclesis> Anyone who can't get the GUI after update who has a wacom?
[12:22] <ohsix> madurax86: thats tough, they have among the worst & ill supported drivers :[ though ubuntu should try at least to use vesa before it gives up, i dunno what to tell you
[12:23] <filip_> hello
[12:23] <madurax86> ohsix: the installation and live session works flawlessly
[12:23] <rudolph> hellp
[12:23] <rudolph> *hellp filip
[12:23] <madurax86> ohsix: how to set vesa?
[12:24] <filip_> whats happend rudolph?
[12:24] <rudolph> nothing, I thought you were going to ask a questions filip :)
[12:24] <ohsix> madurax86: i do not know, sorry
[12:25] <ohsix> madurax86: though i suggest filing a bug if the livecd works but the install doesn't
[12:25] <madurax86> ohsix: hmm isnt both systems the same?
[12:26] <ohsix> madurax86: nope, and i don't know what tricks the livecd might be doing, they are very close to the same though
[12:27] <madurax86> ohsix: ok
[12:29] <centralPower> I have one connection with static IP and low bandwith and one connection with ynamic ip and high bandwith i want to use static ip frm one connection and bandwith from the second connection, I have server I want users to connect to it
[12:29] <centralPower> can i do this?
[12:30] <erUSUL> !fhs | dr0id
[12:30] <erUSUL> !fstab | dr0id
[12:30] <ohsix> centralPower: if they go to different networks, not in a useful way
[12:30] <chariaf> hey ya 4all
[12:31] <centralPower> ohsix, how you mean 2 connections go in same pc
[12:32] <ohsix> centralPower: it's an ip networking thing, if you don't know i have nothing to say beyond what i already have
[12:33] <robbit10> #kubuntu is completely silent, and I need help. Plasma-desktop is segfaulting every time I log in. I just installed Kubuntu, and it worked well the first two times I logged in. Then suddenly, when I logged out and back in, poof. plasma-desktop keeps segfaulting, even after reboot.
[12:33] <centralPower> ohsix, what is difference between desktop and server ubuntu?
[12:34] <schweegi> robbit10, if you use KDE SC 4.6.1, reinstall the kubuntu-desktop meta package
[12:34] <erUSUL> !backups | dr0id
[12:34] <ohsix> centralPower: one uses the ubuntu-desktop virtual and the other ubuntu-server, it just means different installed packages, but they are not mutually exclusive
[12:34] <schweegi> robbit10, and the plasma-desktop meta package. it worked fine for me
[12:34] <HouseMD> robbit10: make a new user and try login with the new user, if that works..some config broke it, go to normal user and rm -rf .kde
[12:35] <centralPower> server just don't have gnome or ?
[12:36] <centralPower> is ok to install gnome on the server?
[12:36] <ohsix> centralPower: you can ask your package manager
[12:36] <BlouBlou> centralPower: yes, why not?
[12:36] <centralPower> and should I install some package to host website on ubuntu desktop?
[12:36] <madurax86> live cd version works great but on the installation X crashes saying screens found but non have usable configuration
[12:37] <robbit10> HouseMD: It worked! Thanks a lot :)
[12:38] <robbit10> HouseMD: Switching to a more comfortable IRC client, see you in a tick.
[12:38] <HouseMD> robbit10: np, glad you sorted out :)
[12:40] <alexanderal> how do I install gnome3 on ubuntu?
[12:40] <robbit10> Thanks.
[12:41] <kiszka96> hey
[12:41] <thedude1> re
[12:41] <thedude1> kwtm: "network-manager start/running, process 22813"
[12:41] <erUSUL> alexanderal: i think there is a ppa for 11.04 beta
[12:41] <erUSUL> alexanderal: ask in #ubuntu+1
[12:41] <alexanderal> okey, thanks!
[12:42] <kwtm> thedude1: Hey, it looks like it's working!  I missed part of the conversation.  Is everything ok now?
[12:42] <byz> qqq
[12:42] <byz> hi
[12:42] <byz> who are you ?
[12:42] <thedude1> was afk ill now, nm is on it seems ...
[12:42] <Fudge> hi guys, with totem movie player does anyone have trouble playing .mkv files. cant seak, crashes through movies. ive experienced with quite a few
[12:43] <thedude1> kwtm: but nm-applet doesnt show me my 3g connection i created before ...
[12:43] <HouseMD> Fudge: try mplayer
[12:43] <byz> i don't know
[12:44] <byz> I am chinese
[12:44] <byz> l
[12:44] <kwtm> thedude1: Hmm... I might not be able to help you much from here on.  I use Kubuntu and don't use nm-applet (I tend to do things from the command-line).  Tell whoever was/will be helping you that network-manager is now running.  Now you know how to start or restart it.
[12:45] <thedude1> kwtm: can you tell me how I can connect with 3g using commandline? :)
[12:46] <byz> ubntu
[12:46] <byz> redhat
[12:46] <raven_> FSPOT does not import videos to the right date - any solution?
[12:46] <kwtm> byz: Do you need help with English?  People generally don't use Chinese here.  您需要幫忙可能要通過 Google translate 翻譯服務﹐或找中文的 channel.
[12:46] <erUSUL> Fudge: use vlc? or smplayer
[12:47] <erUSUL> !cn | byz
[12:47] <kwtm> thedude1: Will try.  Do you have info on your 3g channel?  I don't know that much about "3g" --is that by cellular modem, then?
[12:47] <rileyp> Video is 3.1486 frames behind audio (too slow), dropping frame to catch up.
[12:48] <thedude1> kwtm: yes, it is cellular. what exactly do you mean by "3g channel"? my ISP?
[12:48] <kwtm> thedude1: Sorry, I meant "3g connection", as in "my 3g connection i created before"
[12:49] <kwtm> thedude1: I may have to go soon, so we'll work quickly so you have more info in case I have to bug out suddenly.  What does "ifconfig" give?  What interfaces?
[12:49] <kwtm> thedude1: I'm guessing   eth0   and   wlan0   and   lo.  What else?  Are you running Ubuntu on a cell phone, then?
[12:50] <Chinta> Could anyone help me out to get a wlan wnu-a stick (a-link) to work under 10.10? I am sure it must be piece of cake if you know what to do... right?
[12:50] <thedude1> I would need wwan0, but it isnt displayed here
[12:50] <thedude1> i'm running ubuntu on a netbook with internal 3g modem
[12:50] <kwtm> thedude1: What about "ifconfig -a"?
[12:51] <thedude1> kwtm: exact same
[12:51] <kwtm> thedude1: I'm guessing 10.10?  (I don't think 11.04 is out yet.)
[12:51] <rileyp> all wireless lan help is pretty much go find a guide if you cant find a guide your pretty much out of luck unless its omething simple like an ip config or something
[12:52] <kwtm> thedude1: I guess my noobly knowledge stops here.  If even "sudo ifconfig -a" doesn't show a wwan0 connection, then we're going to have to go to lsmod'ing and seeing why your internal 3g modem isn't up.
[12:52] <kwtm> thedude1: Right, 3g modem might be specialized enough that you need to ask the forums, which means more detailed help but it won't be an instant-response type of thing.
[12:53] <Chinta> rileyp: thanks for the input, but I think in this case is that the driver provided with the wnua doesnt work with the kernel of the current version of ubuntu...
[12:53] <cerix> \list
[12:53] <Fudge> it sjsut i like totem coz its very accessible with orca
[12:53] <kwtm> thedude1: Other than googling, which I'm sure you know about, you may also want to try... hmm, I wonder if there's a "live CD" equivalent for netbooks (like, boot from USB)?
[12:53] <thedude1> kwtm: okay then, I'll try and solve this via the forums. thanks! have a nice day
[12:54] <kwtm> thedude1: best of luck!
[12:54] <rileyp> Chintra so you think some one in this channel can help resolve that?
[12:54] <rileyp> Chinta so you think some one in this channel can help resolve that?
[12:56] <Chinta> rileyp: Yea, I thought that it might be possible a different driver has been develop for this kernel, considering is a-link's, or that someone might want to spare the time to enlight an avid wannabe learner like myself.
[12:56] <Sylux> ...
[12:57] <byz> 哪个是中人？
[12:57] <Sylux> what'a !?
[12:57] <rileyp> normaly wlan problem if the card isnt auto detected are almost impossible to resolve even for well versed ubuntuer...God help a new person to ubuntu.
[12:57] <byz> 有没有说中文的
[12:58] <rileyp> Finding a guide and knowing someone else has actually got the card to work is the starting point.
[12:58] <rileyp> Not asking can we help fix it which we probably cant
[12:59] <rileyp> Chinta Finding a guide and knowing someone else has actually got the card to work is the starting point.
[12:59] <nixjr> whats sandybirdge support in ubuntu like?
[13:00] <nixjr> im looking to build an htpc and want to use the onbard graphics
[13:00] <rileyp> nixjr asrock ion
[13:00] <rileyp> is the way to go
[13:00] <Chinta> I see... bit if i put iwconfig it shows the card is actually detected. I thought it might have been an easier, but if you suggest it isnt, and that this isnt the right place to try my luck and see if someone can help, then, I apologise.
[13:01] <rileyp> Chinat no meed say sorry Im just trying to help If you can google and find someone has your particar wireless lan card working in ubuntu then thst is starting point
[13:02] <nixjr> rileyp, i was thinking about getting this one http://www.asus.com/product.aspx?P_ID=LA0nxZWFGntAqGRe&templete=2
[13:03] <Chinta> I appreciate your help, rileyp. I dont mean to sound bitter or anything; I just want to apologise for being a pain in the ass.
[13:03] <mikewho> hi there, ive got a question for someone who uses apple machine with ubuntu, ive got problme with booting on macbook pro
[13:04] <swatto> Since getting xchat to start minimized at boot i can no longer see my bluetooth or network manager icons :( they are there though because if i right-click the sub-menu comes up, any ideas>
[13:05] <swatto> hmm changed theme and they are there now
[13:06] <enterkey> I can't connect to my wireless network with wpa key but I can with wep
[13:06] <enterkey> any idea why is this happening?
[13:07] <benzaldehyde> swatto: helps to say what you are dealing with top, bottom panel etc.
[13:08] <Wyn> Heyya, anybody got any experince in webcamstudio and Red5 ?
[13:08] <enterkey> ubuntu have some issue with wpa encryption?
[13:08] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: did you properly edit wpa_supplicat.conf and /etc/network/interfaces
[13:08] <mikewho> enterkey: try changing encryption method
[13:08] <benzaldehyde> *supplicant
[13:08] <azbr00> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:09] <enterkey> let me check
[13:09] <enterkey> i didn't edited at all
[13:09] <enterkey> where can I find that file
[13:09] <mikewho> enterkey: i've used wpa2 and it works on every machine without changing anything
[13:09] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: not sure try whereis
[13:09] <enterkey> ok
[13:09] <enterkey> sec
[13:10] <mikewho> anybody uses apple machine with ubuntu, need some help with booting
[13:10] <enterkey> i have adited the connection and set wpa 2 personal encription and entered correct password so far and it cant connect
[13:10] <benzaldehyde> mikewho: i use a similar apple architecture, powerpc64
[13:10] <enterkey> benzaldehyde, and what should I put i that file?
[13:11] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: have you tried /etc/init.d/networking restart
[13:11] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: i am not sure, i use wep, sorry
[13:11] <enterkey> in interfaces file there are only 2 lines :
[13:11] <enterkey> auto lo
[13:11] <enterkey> iface lo inet loopback
[13:11] <SuNotisima> ...new problem now – network-manager is up and running, my connection's there - but when I try to use it, I get "GSM network: Disconnected" as notification. why? my phone is running on the same network and is fine.
[13:11] <enterkey> wep is ok?
[13:11] <enterkey> i heard wep is way to insecure
[13:12] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: essentially you want to set wlan0 iface underneath that with either static of dhcp with a call to your wpa supplicant configuration
[13:12] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: so that it does what is supposed to on boot up
[13:12] <benzaldehyde> *static or dhcp
[13:13] <enterkey> benzaldehyde, I am afraid I didn't uderstood you
[13:13] <Wyn> SuNotisima, yeah, gsm will frive you nuts, it cuts out time to time on mine as well, some imtes takes a few clicks to re-conncet
[13:13] <Mahjongg> hello, I have lenovo x200 notebook. Sleep function stopped working after I have upgraded to maverick. It was working perfectly in lucid. How can I fix this? The moon keeps flashing but the system does not go into sleep mode. (earlier the moon  blinked copule of times while going into the sleep mode, and then lit steady afterwards...)
[13:13] <Guest28709> both are rubbisn wep and wpa but wep is a lot more insecure than wpa but they can both be cracked
[13:14] <enterkey> and ac address filtering?
[13:14] <SuNotisima> Wyn: yeah I remember this from a few months ago but it was never this bad. I can't even get a single connection when clicking a hundred times
[13:14] <enterkey> mac*
[13:14] <ruslan> if you have strong password for wpa, noone can hack it
[13:14] <aguitel> anyway to install gnome3 in ubuntu ?
[13:14] <ruslan> aguitel, google it, its easy)
[13:15] <Guest28709> if you have good rainbow tables nothing is un crackable
[13:15] <Wyn> SuNotisima, youch, I tend to disconnet then /etc/init.d/networking restart if that happens, if it was working before unless you removed some stuff should be OK, butsie but OK
[13:15] <aguitel> ruslan, you did it?
[13:15] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: it can be less insecure with a difficult custom password, crackers and network hackers use brute force attempts against common dictionary files to guess your password and then compare it with the hashed value that they sniff or snort from packets that your router sends out, often disconnecting the host to create many extra packet, this happens less with wpa because the only time to get or sniff the info is during the 'hands
[13:15] <ruslan> does anyone have invite to bitme?
[13:15] <rileyp> Mahjongg cut your losses  easiest way is to install lucid and try again when you can google and find your netbook sleeps in maverick
[13:16] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: nothing it full-proof
[13:16] <enterkey> mac address filtering?
[13:16] <ruslan> aguitel: no, i didn't. i actually dont like ver3. you can check how to install it on youtube
[13:16] <enterkey> is that strong
[13:16] <whoknows_> hiall
[13:17] <SuNotisima> Wyn: no reaction ...
[13:18] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: i do not know
[13:18] <Guest94974> hy
[13:18] <enterkey> ok
[13:19] <benzaldehyde> enterkey: i always tell people that i am less and less concerned with security these days because it is just a simple fact that i do not having anything to lose
[13:19] <mikewho> benzaldehyde: have you had any trouble booting ubuntu cd? have you used refit? or just the regular cd?
[13:19] <benzaldehyde> mikewho: i use natty as a fully installed OS
[13:20] <mikewho> benzaldehyde: i keep getting blankscreen or icon with question mark on boot
[13:20] <Wyn> SuNotisima, new install or recent error ?
[13:20] <benzaldehyde> mikewho: haven't experienced many troubles with it, occasionally midori will segmentation fault and when i upgrade the kernel it has a crypt erorr that may need to be addressed in initramfs but other than that pretty smooth
[13:20] <SuNotisima> Wyn: i reinstalled network-manager twice today, because it hadn't worked in months ..
[13:20] <SuNotisima> OS is no fresh install
[13:21] <benzaldehyde> mikewho: there is a hardware compatibility database on the main site i believe hdwdb.ubuntu.com
[13:21] <Wyn> SuNotisima, ah, and then re-setup your gsm connection ? Phone or 3G USB modem ?
[13:21] <mikewho> bzh: i can't find anything about it, everywhere it says just to boot up the media (cd or usb)
[13:21] <SuNotisima> Wyn: 3g usb modem, internal. did re-setup the connection, didn't work.
[13:22] <mikewho> ok i'll look it up, i thought that when its a intel based mac it will just work, exept some modules
[13:22] <mikewho> thank you
[13:22] <benzaldehyde> mikewho: my favorite cd is the alternate
[13:23] <benzaldehyde> mikewho: i have hit or miss experience with desktop images
[13:24] <mikewho> oh, ill try that one, thanks
[13:24] <Wyn> SuNotisima, USB then, look for usb-modeswitch and install and or update
[13:25] <nyaa> I'm gonna try the beta out, anything I should know or take into consideration?
[13:25] <Mahjongg> hello, I have lenovo x200 notebook. Sleep function stopped working after I have upgraded to maverick. It was working perfectly in lucid. How can I fix this? The moon keeps flashing but the system does not go into sleep mode. (earlier the moon  blinked copule of times while going into the sleep mode, and then lit steady afterwards...)
[13:26] <pasjr> Hello, has anyone else lost usb support in 11.04?
[13:27] <jessicaBR> hello how to flip my ASUS built-in camera image? I'm upsidedown.... :(
[13:27] <hihihi100> only way i can access an external hard drive is mounting it via terminal, how can I delete the trash folder?
[13:27] <Wyn> jessicaBR, are you drunk ? if not get really drunk then it may look the right way up :)
[13:28] <jessicaBR> Wyn, I am drunk... Still i believe my camera image is not ok... :)
[13:28] <WaltherFI> hm, i should start lurking around here more often, helping people... i used to do that some time ago
[13:28] <Wyn> jessicaBR, it isnt,  common problem, they get put in upside down, seriously
[13:29] <Wyn> jessicaBR, theres is a module parm vflip you can set to 1, cant remember exact load syntex, google will help
[13:29] <userdel> jsessicaBR : what's so special in ASUS's camera image
[13:29] <Mahjongg> suspend problem, how to track the problem/
[13:29] <Mahjongg> suspend problem, how to track the problem?
[13:30] <Wyn> jessicaBR, or getting so drunk everyday it flips around but that is a little impratical
[13:30] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: what kind of problem?
[13:30] <Wyn> Mahjongg, dmesg, see what process is hanging it / logs etc
[13:30] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, , I have lenovo x200 notebook. Sleep function stopped working after I have upgraded to maverick. It was working perfectly in lucid. How can I fix this? The moon keeps flashing but the system does not go into sleep mode. (earlier the moon  blinked copule of times while going into the sleep mode, and then lit steady afterwards...)
[13:30] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: do you have enough big swap area?
[13:31] <jessicaBR> userdel, camera image is upside down.... I think ASUS assembled my webcam up side down, and now I have to put it right by software.... Also have this problem in Windows
[13:31] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, 7813120 blocks for 4Gig ram
[13:31] <ruslan> swap should be 2xram
[13:31] <jqke> hi there, i'm trying to use the -subcp option in mplayer but it seems it doesn't know the option "error parsing -subcp"
[13:31] <userdel> jessicaBR: which software ? is it cheese ?
[13:31] <jqke> what should i do?
[13:31] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: swap should be around 2x ram
[13:32] <jessicaBR> userdel, skype and gmail (gtalk)
[13:32] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, I believe it is, and it was working perfectly in lucid
[13:32] <benzaldehyde> WaltherFI: not in my opinion
[13:32] <lance__--___> why
[13:32] <WaltherFI> benzaldehyde: for hibernation to work at all, you need over the amount of ram
[13:32] <lance__--___> ah
[13:32] <benzaldehyde> WaltherFI: k
[13:32] <Pegasus-Rider> Hello! IDK if this is the right channel for the question, but #Canonical is supposed to be internal, so... Is anyone able to sign up to Ubuntu perhaps-SSO service (credentials One, Cloud & co. have in common, you know)
[13:33] <WaltherFI> benzaldehyde: and twice the amount is just a handy measure of 'a bit more than ram'
[13:33] <benzaldehyde> WaltherFI: the rule of thumb is out dated
[13:33] <benzaldehyde> *IMO
[13:34] <Pegasus-Rider> (1926canistelubuntu<serial number> is the error code I get)
[13:36] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, swap is 7.45G
[13:36] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: should be well enough
[13:36] <userdel> jessicaBR: are you there?
[13:37] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: hm... did you upgrade from update manager, upgrade from stick, or perform a clean install?
[13:37] <jessicaBR> userdel, still here
[13:37] <userdel> jessicaBR:   solution -> http://www.edmartechguide.com/2010/09/asus-laptop-webcam-upside-down-after.html
[13:37] <jessicaBR> userdel, found anything?
[13:37] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, update manager
[13:37] <jessicaBR> userdel, lemme check that
[13:38] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: might have something to do with it - as sad as it is, i've had only bad experiences when upgrading with the manager, some things always break
[13:38] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: i would recommend installing pseudo-clean install - boot from stick, install on the same drive but don't tick the box for format
[13:39] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: with my laptop i upgraded from 10.04 to 10.10 and it didn't wake up the wireless features from sleep
[13:39] <jessicaBR> userdel, this might work for windows, but what about linux?
[13:39] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: clean install solved problems
[13:40] <userdel> jessicaBR: try downloading the drivers as said
[13:41] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, my experience with updates, something got broken each time, but clean install did not solve the problem either... :( but I do not have a better advice than yours at this time...
[13:41] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, do youknow wchich packages handle sleep/wake stuff? I could reinstall them...
[13:42] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: you could also try getting another kernel perhaps?
[13:42] <Mahjongg> that's a good one too
[13:42] <jessicaBR> userdel, asus does not have drivers for linux
[13:43] <Walt> could someone recommend a cross platform disk indexing software?
[13:43] <userdel> jessicaBR: ok.   have you used cheese?
[13:44] <iszak> Is 10.10 relatively safe to use on a production server?
[13:44] <benzaldehyde> iszak: it is not a LTS
[13:44] <iszak> I know, but in terms of stability, it's still good?
[13:44] <nyaa> what's the last LTS release?
[13:44] <iszak> 10.04
[13:45] <phrozen> hello, I have a problem with saving password in subclipse 1.6.x in eclipse galileo 3.5 + ;/ I do not have save password checkbox anywhere and I have to type in pw 20 times per synchronization (UBUNTU 10.10)
[13:45] <jessicaBR> userdel, does cheese allow over internet conversation?
[13:45] <benzaldehyde> iszak: you might look into Lucid Lynx, server support is 2010-2015
[13:45] <nyaa> iszak, I've found it to be decent, but I think that if I had a production server that was important I would try an LTS, or maybe even Debian
[13:45] <iszak> benzaldehyde, it's not about support, I just want to know if it's stable.
[13:45] <nyaa> they just seem to have longer support
[13:45] <iszak> it's not about the support.
[13:45] <iszak> it's about the stability, I don't mind upgrading when the EOL comes around.
[13:46] <benzaldehyde> iszak: it is stable but the next stable release drops in 18 days, so
[13:47] <ayrton> hey guys i get this when i try to move songs from a samsong t10 to an ipod touch, None of the tracks to be transferred are in a format supported by the target device, and no encoders are available for the supported formats.
[13:47] <domin_> i have got a question: is gnome 3 works under ubuntu ?
[13:47] <iszak> benzaldehyde, thanks, just this VPS (Xen based) hosting provider won't put Ubuntu 10.10 as available
[13:49] <userdel> jessicaBR: afaik skype and others use v4l  package to get the camera stream. if the settings can be changed to flip it the gtalk and skype will have inverted stream.
[13:49] <benzaldehyde> iszak: i can relate--they ought to
[13:49] <iszak> benzaldehyde, yeah it's not like I'm asking them to drop 10.04, just some users like up-to-date versions.
[13:51] <benzaldehyde> iszak: 2012 is the next LTS, not very far from now
[13:51] <iszak> Sure, but I don't want a LTS
[13:51] <WaltherFI> LTS means nothing, btw :P
[13:51] <benzaldehyde> iszak: one year 18 days to be exacy
[13:51] <benzaldehyde> *exact
[13:51] <WaltherFI> Of course they will be providing updates etc for those for longer time
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Hey all
[13:51] <iszak> benzaldehyde, I don't live in years
[13:51] <benzaldehyde> iszak: :D
[13:52] <userdel> jessicaBR: are you there?
[13:52] <Mahjongg> how to add kernel-ppa?
[13:52] <WaltherFI> userdel: doesn't look like that
[13:52] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: apt-add-repository?
[13:52] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, couldn't find the uri for kernel-ppa actually
[13:53] <iszak> https://launchpad.net/~kernel-ppa/+archive/ppa ?
[13:53] <WaltherFI> Mahjongg: sudo apt-cache search?
[13:53] <benzaldehyde> iszak: you could take your business to another VPS if you were so inclinded
[13:54] <benzaldehyde> *inclined
[13:54] <iszak> benzaldehyde, indeed however it seems they've come around to my way of thinking.
[13:54] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, that would shearch only the added repositories, I couldn't add kernel-ppa repository yet
[13:54] <xangua> WaltherFI: Mahjongg sudo add-apt-repository <ppa's name> , instructions are on the page itself
[13:54] <arand> Mahjongg: In general you don't want to add the kernel-PPA
[13:54] <Fitfte> I'm running ubuntu on one HDD and windows 7 on another, can I access my ubntu stuff from my win 7 HDD?
[13:55] <Mahjongg> arand, what is the proper way?
[13:55] <WaltherFI> xangua: i thought Mahjongg said they couldn't add it for some reason
[13:55] <iszak> Fitfte, yes with a utility ext2explorer or something
[13:55] <Fitfte> iszak thanks, uhm is it possible to boot to my ubuntu parititon?
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> Fitfte: no as Microsoft are too short ighted to code access to ext based file systems despite the definitions being fully available
[13:55] <WaltherFI> Fitfte: is the ubuntu system formatted to ext2, ext3, ext4 or ntfs?
[13:55] <arand> Mahjongg: Or, hmm, what is it you want to test with the new kernel.
[13:55] <arand> Mahjongg: (Depending, I might be wrong.)
[13:55] <WaltherFI> arand: sleep feature broke
[13:55] <Fitfte> waltherFi EXT3
[13:55] <Mahjongg> arand, sleep does not work anymore since I upgraded to maverick from lucid
[13:56] <iszak> Fitfte, sure but you would be accessing from the ubuntu hard drive not the windows 7?
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Fitfte: if it's ext3 you may get read acces with http://fs-driver.org
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Fitfte: make sure it now runs on win7 before installing
[13:56] <iszak> ActionParsnip, nice! thanks didn't know about that
[13:56] <ActionParsnip> Fitfte: funnily enough, Ubuntu has full read and write access to your NTFS partition despite the definitions being hidden and unpublished
[13:57] <WaltherFI> ActionParsnip: yeah, all those 'super-hidden' files of windows os'es :P
[13:57] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: what do you mean unpublished & hidden?
[13:57] <WaltherFI> ohsix: you can find files on the windows root that you simply can't see under windows
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the data structure of NTFS is proprietary and not published by Microsoft, unlike Linux filesystems
[13:58] <ohsix> i see
[13:58] <arand> Mahjongg: And you want to test with the very bleeding edge or just a somewhat updated version?
[13:58] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: you're losing me
[13:58] <WaltherFI> like, the flag boot splash image on winXP
[13:58] <Mahjongg> arand, yes any of the two
[13:58] <WaltherFI> arand: only problem is that after updating, they can't get the sleep feature working
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: the definitions of how the data is stored and how the filesystem fundamentally works in Ext4 is completely free to read online
[13:58] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: as stated you seemed to say it was in spite of Ubuntu
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: it is published and people can read it and code things to use the structure properly
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: with me so far?
[13:59] <ohsix> ntfs isn't different from a lot of filesystems linux can read/write
[14:00] <ohsix> maybe thats where you lost me
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: how NTFS stores data and how the files are accessed is NOT published as Microsoft are keeping how NTFS works a secret
[14:00] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: its not much of a secret if they let people execute the code
[14:00] <ohsix> i get what you're saying though
[14:00] <phrozen> hello, I have a problem with saving password in subclipse 1.6.x in eclipse galileo 3.5 + ;/ I do not have save password checkbox anywhere and I have to type in pw 20 times per synchronization (UBUNTU 10.10)
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: yet Ubuntu can write and read NTFS despite the secrecy, yet Windows cannot do anything to Ext4
[14:01] <ohsix> the intent to make it secret is dubious however
[14:01] <benzaldehyde> ActionParsnip: how much of a secret could it be if gparted can do ntfs
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> benzaldehyde: thats a best effort by the ntfstools team
[14:01] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: ntfs-3g can do it; lacking it, linux can read it, ubuntu doesn't do it
[14:01] <arand> Mahjongg: https://launchpad.net/~canonical-kernel-team/+archive/ppa might be possible to temorarily add, and install.
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> benzaldehyde: they may be right on the button but until they see the definitions they will never know for certain
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: you get my point though
[14:02] <ohsix> theres no useful reason to include hfs or ext4 or any filesystem you can think of in windows
[14:02] <calvim> quit
[14:02] <benzaldehyde> ActionParsnip: makes sense
[14:02] <ohsix> i do
[14:02] <calvim> exit
[14:02] <richard_> hi
[14:02] <Mahjongg> arand, seems like all they have is 2.6.35-28.50 I have 2.6.35-28.49 currently
[14:02] <arand> !mainline | Mahjongg otherwise look into this for the very latest testing
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: what about dual/multi booters? People need to have an NTFS partition to share data between because Windows is so lacking
[14:02] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: from my understanding back in the day people didn't know what could happen, they knew at the moment what they did rather well
[14:03] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: thats a red herring, you need a common filesystem  to share stuff between operating systems anyways
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: you should be able to simply access the other file system from the other OS.
[14:04] <arand> Mahjongg: That one is supposed to be for testing and debugging mainly though, it may give a hint if it is something that is in the works though, and will help if you create a bug stating that it is fixed in mainline, which may allow them to backport the fix
[14:04] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: ok, every os can access any filesystem, so you can pick any of them; then a device comes along thatcan't
[14:04] <daniel_> ahojte :)
[14:05] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: thats where should's fall down, its far easier and preferable to just add ignorant read access for an already common enough filesystem
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I don't mean to have the install on it, just to access the data
[14:05] <Mahjongg> arand, would you think a clean install would help?
[14:05] <ohsix> i didn't either
[14:05] <Mahjongg> arand, i had upgraded from lucid where it was working perfectly
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: I just find it funny and frustrating for dual booters how windows cannot access an open file system, when many teams have prodded and probed TFS and put effort in so Linux can access NTFS
[14:06] <arand> Mahjongg: I would guess that a reinstall might not fix it, do you happen to have the kernels left from your Lucid install by the way?
[14:07] <Mahjongg> arand, nope, removed all since I did not have problem with kernels for a loong time
[14:07] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: and i just put everything on ntfs; and only because of limits with fat32, the simplest one that works for interchange is probably the best
[14:07] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: there is third party software the will let windows read ext4 you do know that don't you?
[14:08] <raven_> how to update with update-manager without xserver?
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> sacarlson: thats a step in the right direction but it should do it on its own
[14:09] <ohsix> only problem with that is when its not just windows that wants to read it; i considered that before i chose how to allocate my storage
[14:09] <BlouBlou> is private flag recommended in NickServ?
[14:09] <Kawohi> after a week of being on ubuntu/linux its freakin' great. so much better then windows
[14:09] <BlouBlou> err, chnan fail
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: that's working around the lack of functionality and is used by many but I think it should be able to do it
[14:10] <sacarlson> ActionParsnip: you mean it should be built into the released window?  I guess it's not in there best interests http://www.soluvas.com/read-browse-explore-open-ext2-ext3-ext4-partition-filesystem-from-windows-7/
[14:10] <ohsix> ActionParsnip: talking about what something should do is almost always lose; they have no practical reason to, and they don't read hfs either, and udf was only out of necessity and is _bad_ on windows
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ohsix: indeed
[14:11] <debd> I have two channels feed right in one window on irssi; can anyone tell me how to reply to that other channel without creating a separate window?
[14:11] <ohsix> debd: /m #chan, or switch to it with ^x
[14:11] <benzaldehyde> debd: ctrl+p
[14:12] <damno> oh thanks OHSIX
[14:13] <ohsix> damno: its awkward at first, but i have my windows sorted by topic now; and usually one is of prime concern, the rest are ok as /m #
[14:13] <atlef> damno: you could also install terminator, which lets you split the terminal window
[14:15] <ohsix> atlef: irssi has that built in, but it wouldn't switch between them
[14:15] <damno> ohsix: I usually am in 2 channels all the time, so I like it better than split windows
[14:15] <ohsix> atlef: also splitvt & tmux 4 lyf
[14:15] <atlef> ok
[14:15] <damno> atlef, Its already available
[14:16] <benzaldehyde> damno: and you can split more than just two
[14:16] <benzaldehyde> i mean one
[14:16] <sasha> i have a cisco valet router, but i dont know howto configure it under ubuntu. did anybody experience it?
[14:16] <Kawohi>  annoying! does anybody know why chrome goes fullscreen doesn't change unless the browser is closed?
[14:16] <damno> benzaldehyde: yes, I know.. their help page is really helpfull ;)
[14:17] <benzaldehyde> damno: k
[14:18] <XOXO1> hey, I somehow uninstalled gnome-session and now I cant get any further than login screen, how can I reinstall gnome-session? "sudo apt-get install gnome-session" gives me errors that it cant resolve my repository
[14:18] <damno> CH3CHO
[14:18] <XOXO1> how can I add some random working repo?
[14:19] <benzaldehyde> damno: you um got that wrong
[14:19] <ikonia> XOXO1: it can't start the network as you're using gnome-network manager to configure your netowrk, and you're not starting gnome
[14:19] <damno> benzaldehyde: what would it be?
[14:20] <benzaldehyde> damno it is connected to a benzene ring, c6h5cho
[14:20] <XOXO1> oh that
[14:20] <XOXO1> oh that's the problem*
[14:21] <damno> benzaldehyde:  that's ethan-al-dehyde
[14:21] <GreyGhost> hey
[14:22] <jpgrms> grabe dami sumasali dito!
[14:22] <benzaldehyde> damno: what?
[14:22] <GreyGhost> i'm moving files from my linux sdb (ext4) to windows sda (ntfs).. transfer is very slow .. almost 2 MB/s ,.. :(
[14:22] <GreyGhost> any idea?
[14:22] <damno> benzaldehyde: the formula you wrote at the end
[14:23] <subspider> hi
[14:23] <benzaldehyde> damno: i feel like we are playing whose on first, what about it
[14:24] <damno> benzaldehyde: didnt understand what u sair
[14:24] <mredeb> which is better to use - network manager or wicd
[14:24] <benzaldehyde> damno: it is not important.
[14:24] <ohsix> GreyGhost: how full is the ntfs side? it can get like that pretty readily
[14:25] <ohsix> mredeb: considering it comes with n-m, guess
[14:25] <mredeb> it doesnt, bec i had to install it
[14:25] <mredeb> but i think wicd is missing functionality
[14:25] <Pelo> !upgrade
[14:25] <mredeb> so itit more future proo
[14:25] <ohsix> mredeb: at the very least, it gets more attention
[14:25] <GreyGhost> ohsix, 250 GB of 500 free
[14:26] <ohsix> GreyGhost: :\
[14:26] <ohsix> GreyGhost: i never did correlate the slowness
[14:26] <damno> what does trucrypt do?
[14:26] <ohsix> but i defragged the drives in windows & haven't had much trouble since
[14:27] <AntiSociaL> .
[14:27] <ohsix> damno: makes you look cool
[14:27] <damno> :) ohsix: I dont really know
[14:28] <ohsix> damno: encryption & security is more than the software thast does it; the answer to the question as you asked it _is_ "makes you look cool", because people that use it do so for stupid reasons, and can't shut up about it
[14:30] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: the algorithms are the honey, aes is military . i could imagine that might make the paranoid feel pretty good about using it
[14:31] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: no
[14:31] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: no?
[14:31] <damno> ohsix: but ppl talk too much FOR it
[14:32] <ohsix> damno: for "truecrypt" indeed
[14:32] <ohsix> but not for actual data security
[14:32] <damno> did you gys know, google will create their 1st 1gbps network in cansas city?
[14:33] <ohsix> the people with the need to even mention what they're using for their own self satisfaction are no better off than having no encryption at all, because it's not about what software you use
[14:33] <benzaldehyde> damno: are those bits or bytes
[14:33] <ohsix> bits
[14:33] <lolmatic> hi, im looking for a way to sync with google docs. any recommendations?
[14:33] <damno> bits I guess
[14:33] <benzaldehyde> so than an 8th of a gig per second
[14:33] <damno> their was a post in engadget
[14:33] <zikalify> on ubuntu 13.04 release schedule page it says dates for 12.04 LTS and 13.04 LTS, are LTS going to be more frequent?
[14:34] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: not exactly; thats the phy rate
[14:34] <damno> benzaldehyde: and dont ask me...wont be able to calculate the fraction :(
[14:35] <benzaldehyde> 125 megabytes in one second, sweet
[14:35] <ohsix> too bad we've got to deal with disks and operating systems when we've got all this delicious bandwidth
[14:36] <zikalify> anyone know my question?
[14:36] <luckvicky> hi
[14:36] <damno> ohsix:  cant sata handle that speed?
[14:36] <damno> ohsix: and what abt ubuntu?
[14:36] <benzaldehyde> zikalify: LTS is released every fourth release and every 2 years
[14:37] <benzaldehyde> zikalify: the last was 2010 and the next is 12.04 on 2012
[14:37] <zikalify> not according to 13.04 release schedule its not, or is this just a mock up? want link?
[14:37] <GreyGhost> how do i check if a sata disk is on DMA mode or PIO?
[14:38] <ohsix> GreyGhost: look at the boot messages w/dmesg, or ask it with hdparm -i
[14:38] <benzaldehyde> zikalify: if 13.04 is the lts after 12.04 then that means it should be available 2014 and have 4 releases between 12.04 and 13.04
[14:38] <iceroot> if top is showing me 200% cpu for one process, does that mean the prcess is using 2 cores with 100% each? or is it using one core with a load of 2?
[14:38] <ohsix> GreyGhost: i'd be really surprised to see a sata controller prefer pio
[14:38] <benzaldehyde> zikalify: though why they would set this in stone with no one working on it i would not know
[14:38] <jamesklyne> press 1
[14:38] <erUSUL> GreyGhost: dmesg | grep -i ata
[14:39] <jamesklyne> iceroot press 1 while in top
[14:39] <GreyGhost> ohsix, i asked cos last time my hard disk gave some read write error Windows had set the drive up on PIO mode by itself
[14:39] <lescrooge> [hello]
[14:39] <iceroot> jamesklyne: no core is used by 100%
[14:39] <lescrooge> Is it worth attempting to remove 10.04  from alongside Win7 and expecting Win 7 to be accessible or is a complete wipe the disc time.
[14:39] <lescrooge> The cause of the dilemma is the lack of space in the WIn7 partition.
[14:39] <lescrooge> I've looked at the moving and resizing option in Gparted and it does not inspire me with confidence. Much appreciate any help. TVM
[14:39] <GreyGhost> ohsix, erUSUL , thxn
[14:39] <FloodBot3> lescrooge: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:39] <ohsix> GreyGhost: thats a windows thing
[14:40] <iceroot> jamesklyne: as i fact its a wine-appliacation i cant imaging its using more then 1 core
[14:40] <lolmatic> whats a nice app to sync with google docs?
[14:40] <lescrooge> OK TVM
[14:40] <ohsix> lescrooge: fdisk /mbr will replace grub with the windows bootloader, then you can delete ubuntu
[14:41] <ohsix> lescrooge: but resizing is safe enough, you'd need a shrink/move and stable power tho
[14:42] <lolmatic> how can i search the repos for applications on a terminal?
[14:42] <iceroot> also very strange is, my system has a load of 6 (4 cores) from x-processes, if i switch to tty1 i cant even load "man bash" in a good speed (using 2.6.38 with cgroups-patch). if a am correct that patch was exactly for that situation...
[14:42] <atlef> lolmatic: apt-cache search
[14:42] <iceroot> lolmatic: apt-cache search searchstring
[14:42] <samira-t> how should i enable wireless?
[14:43] <lescrooge> to ohsix do I put the fdsik /mbr on run? Q2 By stable power you mean a UPS?
[14:43] <Mahjongg> .
[14:43] <Mahjongg> .
[14:43] <jamesklyne> 2 core with hyperthreading
[14:44] <lolmatic> what does prism actually do? it executes web applications like on a desktop?
[14:44] <benzaldehyde> samira-t: edit your /etc/network/interfaces
[14:44] <Mahjongg> WaltherFI, actually the system sleeps fine after 10 minutes, fails to sleep when lid is closed... how about that?
[14:44] <iceroot> jamesklyne: yes, 2 cores with hyper-threading (intel atom dual core)
[14:44] <xangua> lolmatic: just a fx window with no status/tool/menu bar
[14:44] <benzaldehyde> samira-t: enable? use ifconfig device up
[14:45] <damno> gwrite works wonder for saving webpages via copy-paste
[14:46] <lolmatic> well im looking for a nice application to sync with google docs. i used gladinet on windows but anything for ubuntu would be really nice as i dont want to run it on wine
[14:46] <Mahjongg> arand, actually the system sleeps fine after 10 minutes, fails to sleep when lid is closed... how about that?
[14:47] <arand> Mahjongg: Well... I don't know...
[14:47] <Mahjongg> arand, all right, thanks
[14:47] <n4pst3r> ubuntu es
[14:47] <n4pst3r> ?
[14:48] <ohsix> !es
[14:48] <damno> n4pst3r?
[14:48] <Magnusson_TB> is it still problematic/dangerous to write to windows ntfs partitions from linux?
[14:48] <lescrooge> TVM
[14:49] <sasha> i have a cisco valet router. i'm trying to connect it to configure. ip is 192.168.1.1 but my browsers dont connect. there's no proxy by the way. what should i do?
[14:49] <norman222> .
[14:49] <damno> is there a way to limit the reply of /names <channel>  ?
[14:49] <damno> is there a way to limit the reply of /list    ?
[14:50] <benzaldehyde> sasha: what is the last line of ip r
[14:50] <ohsix> damno: theres a bot to search channels but i forget its name
[14:50] <ohsix> Magnusson_TB: no
[14:51] <lolmatic> Magnusson_TB: no its pretty safe. if you use ntfs-3g. everything else should be less safe.
[14:51] <benzaldehyde> sasha: mike@ps3:~$ ip r | grep default | awk '{print $3}'
[14:51] <apporc> Hi everyone.
[14:51] <Magnusson_TB> cool deal
[14:51] <benzaldehyde> omit mike@ps3
[14:51] <ohsix> Magnusson_TB: not with ntfs-3g in play anyways; the kernel driver doesn't move as fast but iirc even it added write support that was servicable a few years ago
[14:51] <jamesklyne> anyone know why changing apps > metaciy > general > button_layout wont change the min max and close buttons?
[14:51] <Magnusson_TB> no idea what ntfs -3g is however
[14:51] <apporc> my disk's disklabel is destroyed . i am trying to repair it .any advices?
[14:51] <jamesklyne> using gconf-editor
[14:51] <Magnusson_TB> but good to know :)
[14:51] <sasha> benzaldehyde: default via 24.222.116.1 dev eth2  proto static
[14:51] <lolmatic> Magnusson_TB: ntfs-3g --help
[14:52] <damno> how do I see the prev page in irssi?
[14:52] <Magnusson_TB> lolmatic> ah ha
[14:52] <benzaldehyde> sasha: try to punch that into a web browser instead of the 192.
[14:52] <Magnusson_TB> ty
[14:52] <KicksaintNick> Hello
[14:53] <xangua> !controls | jamesklyne
[14:53] <sasha> benzaldehyde: this whole number? 24.222.116.1
[14:53] <ohsix> Magnusson_TB: you need not mess with it if you're using ubuntu; it's handled behid the scenes
[14:53] <jamesklyne> i have 11.04
[14:53] <benzaldehyde> sasha: yes, only the numbers, sorry
[14:53] <sasha> benzaldehyde: i'll try thanks
[14:53] <ohsix> jamesklyne: #ubuntu+1
[14:53] <Magnusson_TB> ohsix> oh yeah i am, it's just been some years since i used linux period so i didn't know if the same dangers still applied
[14:54] <ohsix> Magnusson_TB: those warnings were with respect to the kernel driver thats beenin there some time, ntfs-3g is a relatively recent ocurrence
[14:54] <sasha> benzaldehyde: that didnt work either
[14:55] <jamesklyne> ohsix i know how to do it and did it on my desktop.  laptop is a no go that used the same install :/
[14:55] <benzaldehyde> sasha: you might have to take eth2 down and put eth0 up
[14:55] <samira-t> benzaldehyde: this is the output of than command http://pastebin.com/ZnSwguQF
[14:55] <sasha> benzaldehyde: howto do that?
[14:56] <Mahjongg> arand, WaltherFI, FYI I played with power manager options, changed all individual setting to something else, saved, set them back to what I'd like and now everything seems to work fine.
[14:56] <benzaldehyde> sasha: ifconfig <device> up/down
[14:56] <Mahjongg> arand, WaltherFI, did not need to change the default kernel
[14:56] <arand> Mahjongg: Excellent.
[14:57] <KicksaintNick> exit
[14:59] <damno> how do I change default nick in irssi?
[14:59] <tass> if i take the grub.cfg from a Ubuntu install and just replace it with the one chakra installed (ubuntu has chakra + ubuntu o the grub.cfg) it hsould work just find shouldn't it?
[14:59] <damno> tass: no
[14:59] <soreau> damno: It depends on which client you use
[14:59] <tass> why not?
[15:00] <damno> soreau: irssi
[15:00] <jamesklyne> well closing all the windows was the answer :) dunno what that would do.
[15:00] <erUSUL> tass: grub.cfg is autogenerated and overwritten quite often
[15:00] <soreau> ! irssi
[15:00] <benzaldehyde> sasha: BCM4312 is your device's brand name not how linux refers to it, do ifconfig to see a list of your devices and how linux refers to them
[15:00] <damno> tass: it does not work like that. you will have to run grub-update
[15:00] <soreau> benzaldehyde: lspci*
[15:01] <damno> ! tab
[15:01] <rcconf> Is possible to embed Ubuntu banner countdown into Conky'
[15:01] <rcconf> ?
[15:01] <kailkitsune> hey, i have a problem, i don't know if its with java pr minecraft, but ive un/reinstalled them both and i still get a black screen on load, and ive found nothing that helps in the forums, does 10.10 have something against them?
[15:02] <soreau> kailkitsune: nvidia?
[15:02] <benzaldehyde> sasha: not device, i meant interfaces
[15:02] <ohsix> kailkitsune: are you using a pirated version? you'll need to get the .so for lwgl for linux
[15:02] <patrik> how can i acess the screen manager on ubuntu via the terminal?
[15:02] <kailkitsune> no i payed for it
[15:03] <erUSUL> patrik: gnome-display-properties  ?
[15:03] <patrik> yea
[15:03] <patrik> oh thanks
[15:03] <patrik> :)
[15:03] <damno> ohsix:  does ppl have to use pirated ver. in linux ??
[15:03] <soreau> damno: No
[15:04] <soreau> ohsix: Please dont advocate pirated anything here
[15:04] <asyhar> hei.. im newbie can anyone tell me hw to run compiz on xubuntu 10.04
[15:04] <soreau> asyhar: compiz --replace
[15:04] <damno> nice. it does nt work !  !
[15:04] <ohsix> soreau: i wasn't aware that i was
[15:04] <asyhar> it doesnt wrk at my machine
[15:05] <soreau> ! work | asyhar
[15:05] <ohsix> soreau: that being said; had he paid for it there would be no black screen
[15:05] <Honoo> asyhar: is compiz installed in your machine?
[15:05] <soreau> ohsix: There is a possibility its a problem with the nvidia driver
[15:05] <soreau> But he never said if he has nvidia yet or not
[15:05] <asyhar> yes, it already installed
[15:05] <kailkitsune> .so for lwgl? little help first time on that one
[15:05] <gnewb> I wish to make a persistent install to USB of Lubuntu or a lightweight Ubuntu, are there downloads on Official Site for that or do I make one myself?
[15:06] <kailkitsune> no i have an laptop
[15:06] <soreau> gnewb: Just install to the usb stick as you would a hard drive
[15:06] <kailkitsune> it an inbeded
[15:06] <soreau> kailkitsune: What gpu does it have?
[15:06] <samira-t> benzaldehyde: this is the output of ifconfig command, now what i should do?
[15:06] <sasha> benzaldehyde: when i say ifconfig, it doesnt show me anything about the router
[15:07] <gnewb> soreau: Thank you, does that make it persistent?
[15:07] <soreau> gnewb: Yes, its just like a regular install, only on usb. You will want at least 4GB though
[15:07] <kailkitsune> soreau:let me check
[15:07] <soreau> kailkitsune: lspci|grep VGA
[15:07] <ohsix> gnewb: that distinction is just for the startup disk creator; a full install is just that
[15:07] <samira-t> benzaldehyde: sorry this is link=> http://pastebin.com/ee3GbdZw
[15:09] <bizerklurker> hi ubuntu!
[15:09] <benzaldehyde> sasha: i was just saying when you put the interface up or down don't do the name of your adpater, linux uses special leters to refer to it, for a list do ifconfig. do ip r | grep default | awk '{print $3}'
[15:09] <bizerklurker> newb here
[15:09] <bizerklurker> what's the difference between unity and gnome 3?
[15:09] <gnewb> soreau: Thank you again, I am using an 8g Scandisk Cruzer, that should be enough, I wanted to make one to show others on the fly what a great OS Ubuntu really is.
[15:09] <bizerklurker> and why can't they run tofether?
[15:09] <bizerklurker> together*
[15:09] <sasha> benzaldehyde: it said there was no eth0 interface
[15:09] <benzaldehyde> sasha: do that last bit for the router ip
[15:09] <soreau> bizerklurker: unity is a hacked up version o compiz and gnome3 is gnome-shell which doesnt allow any other (compositing) wm to run
[15:10] <benzaldehyde> sasha: what about ifconfig can you pastbin it
[15:10] <soreau> ! unity
[15:10] <ohsix> gnewb: since suspending to disk on a volume like that is probably impractical; you can cut back on the swap you need
[15:10] <bizerklurker> thanks guys (:
[15:10] <sagi_> hey
[15:11] <samira-t> how should i enable wireless?
[15:11] <sagi_> I have downloaded macubuntu 10.10
[15:11] <gnewb> ohsix: That does make since.
[15:11] <ohsix> soreau: it uses mutter though; so you can change how it works with javascript :D
[15:11] <sagi_> The theme is working fine.
[15:11] <sagi_> Can anybody tell how to see the minimised windows.
[15:11] <sagi_> ?
[15:12] <ohsix> sagi_: are you supposed to run it with a dock?
[15:12] <sagi_> As there is no taskbar at the bottom
[15:12] <gnewb> I thank you all kindly for the input and assistance, I create a stick now.
[15:12] <sagi_> ohsix, I have disabled the dock.
[15:12] <benzaldehyde> samira-t: did i say ifconfig? you need iwconfig
[15:13] <ohsix> sagi_: then good luck finding your windows; you'll need an alternative
[15:13] <sasha> benzaldehyde: http://pastebin.com/R9qKizbi
[15:13] <sagi_> ohsix, I dont get you. :(
[15:13] <benzaldehyde> samira-t: enable it with ifconfig, wait, you have no wireless interface..
[15:14] <sagi_> ohsix, Is there no way I can maximise the window
[15:14] <dd214> Ubuntu Software Center, attempting to install any package and receive the following:
[15:14] <sagi_> or is there an option for taskbar at bottom like normal ubuntu
[15:14] <dd214> There seems to be a programming error in aptdaemon, the software that allows you to install/remove software and to perform other package management related tasks. Please report this error at http://launchpad.net/aptdaemon/+filebug and retry.
[15:15] <dd214> Traceback (most recent call last):
[15:15] <dd214>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 779, in simulate
[15:15] <dd214>     return self._simulate_helper(trans, status_path)
[15:15] <dd214>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/aptdaemon/worker.py", line 958, in _simulate_helper
[15:15] <dd214>     return depends, status, self._cache.required_download, \
[15:15] <dd214>   File "/usr/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/apt/cache.py", line 218, in required_download
[15:15] <FloodBot3> dd214: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:15] <ohsix> classy
[15:15] <kuai410022283111> hi
[15:15] <samira-t> benzaldehyde: what should i do?
[15:15] <benzaldehyde> sasha: i am at a loss. try cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhcp.leases
[15:16] <kailkitsune> soreau: sorry had to afk dogs freaked out, its an intel mobile 4 integrated, it ran it just fine before i upgraded to 10.10
[15:16] <samira-t> benzaldehyde: i use wireless in windows
[15:16] <ohsix> sasha: you might not be able to do it easily
[15:16] <benzaldehyde> sasha: sorry i meant try cat /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.leases
[15:17] <ohsix> sasha: part of the brand & novelty is the easy setup, and thats all software running on win/mac
[15:17] <gexarcha> Hello, I  am using google chrome and I have problems connecting to google websites if I keep my laptop running for a long time (about a day). The problem exists only with google websites I can connect to everything else normally. Right now I am using ubuntu 11.04 but I had the problem with 10.10 as well and fedora before that. Do you have any ideas?
[15:17] <ohsix> sasha: if you don't find manual instructions you might get lucky running the setup via wine
[15:17] <sasha> benzaldehyde: no such file
[15:18] <benzaldehyde> sasha: i gave you the wrong one at first
[15:18] <benzaldehyde> sasha: do dhclient.leases
[15:18] <sagi_> ohsix, Tell me if you got any solution for my problem.
[15:18] <sasha> benzaldehyde: i did that one
[15:18] <benzaldehyde> sasha: isntead of dhcp.leases do dhclient.leases, sorry
[15:18] <ohsix> sagi_: you can run anything you want, if you want the panel just start it
[15:19] <sasha> benzaldehyde: i did both, same
[15:19] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: read what is being attempted to be set up
[15:19] <alaa_> hello
[15:19] <alaa_> can someone help me out with an ubuntu one issue,...
[15:20] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: what?
[15:20] <warpi> hello! does anyone know how to enable so that people can access my apache server on port 80? im running ubuntu and apache is working great locally
[15:20] <sagi_> ohsix, I can run anything, but the thing is once minimised I cant reopen it cause theres no panel at the bottom
[15:20] <benzaldehyde> samira-t: what happens when you ping 24.222.116.1
[15:20] <fedorka> Hello thereª
[15:20] <dd214> self solution... apt-get purge synergy
[15:20] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: cisco valet
[15:21] <benzaldehyde> wireless?
[15:21] <ttl-> hi
[15:21] <benzaldehyde> ohsix: you're hen pecking, i don't follow
[15:21] <anfab> i am trying to install chromium from synaptic but after downloading the packages it get stuck ad unpacking the deb file
[15:21] <anfab> pls help
[15:22] <samira-t> benzaldehyde: http://pastebin.com/actxiqq0
[15:23] <ttl-> I'm having trouble to install ubuntu server 10.04.2 on a Via EPIA M board. The screen get all garbled and unreadble in the installer
[15:23] <Craig> #appengine
[15:23] <kailkitsune> would any one else happen to have any ideas on the minecraft java black out problem?
[15:23] <ttl-> The mainboard has a onboard Via Unichrome chip
[15:24] <ohsix> benzaldehyde: such a grave insult; i merely interjected with the original problem so you might stop badgering
[15:24] <alaa_> well i have just upgraded to natty and i had 1 picture in the sync folder "pictures" while the pictures folder in the cloud had tons of files,and now when i started to sync the pictures folder again to download the images from the cloud to the PC,it asked me to "merge" it,....and when i said yes all the files in the pictures folder in the cloud are gone and only 1 picture uploaded to my ubuntu one in the pictures folder,....any idea how to recover the files in
[15:24] <alaa_>  the picture folder in ubuntuone ? or are they gone for good ? !
[15:24] <Akio> Anyone think they can help me out? I'm trying to configure mousetrap for the dell mini 1010 and it's built in webcam
[15:24] <ttl-> is there a way to load the 10.04.2 server installer in text only without the framebuffer mode?
[15:25] <ohsix> Akio: mousetrap the game?
[15:25] <Akio> No, the webcam mouse control system
[15:26] <ohsix> hm you probably wont get satisfactory results with that camera, and without special lighting
[15:27] <xangua> alaa_: #ubuntu+1
[15:27] <Akio> The real problem is that I'm running into a segmentation fault at line 139 of /usr/bin/mousetrap
[15:28] <alaa_> ty
[15:28] <rcconf> How to overwrite a file using wget?
[15:30] <sasha> how can i find my default gateway number?
[15:30] <rcconf> -N and -x maybe
[15:30] <ohsix> sasha: the output of route
[15:30] <ohsix> sasha: or "ip route"
[15:31] <sasha> ohsix: thanks
[15:31] <kailkitsune> small Q: are the free cds gone
[15:31] <LjL> !shipit | kailkitsune
[15:32] <erUSUL> sasha: ip route | grep default
[15:32] <ohsix>  istill have my 8.04 shipit cds/dvds and stickers :D
[15:32] <ohsix> !LoCo
[15:33] <ohsix> wow, only recently
[15:35] <jobbos> Gotta leave or dinner will be in the dog!
[15:36] <eamon> Anyone here have a cap card?
[15:38] <swatto> what is the command to remove a user from ubuntu please?
[15:38] <IdleOne> deluser ?
[15:39] <swatto> ty
[15:39] <IdleOne> be careful with that
[15:39] <saumya> hi all
[15:39] <eamon> sudo deluser
[15:39] <eamon> only root can delete users
[15:40] <swatto> its ok im just trying to setup a teamspeak server
[15:42] <leysantos> oi pessoal
[15:42] <Poisonfirbe> is it possibe to get winamp on Ubuntu if so, whats the sudo command
[15:43] <demonspork> nevyn, I have been so far past unmuting it in alsamixer it isn't even funny.  I have built 20 variations of asound.conf, messed with the sound preferences and attempted to force aplay -D plughw:0,1 test.wav   - the receiver always shows PCM 2.0 which indicates that the output isn't disabled, but the sound still refuses to come out even with no error messages.
[15:43] <demonspork> ! sudo | Poisonfirbe
[15:44] <ferrer3> Can somebody help me? I cant change brightness on my Sony Vaio PC . Ubuntu 10.10.
[15:45] <Mud> ferrer3: install windows :+ j/k
[15:45] <erUSUL> Poisonfirbe: you can get similar programs like audacious
[15:46] <erUSUL> !xmms
[15:46] <ferrer3> hmm what? :(
[15:46] <Daghdha> hello.
[15:46] <erUSUL> !info qmmp | Poisonfirbe
[15:46] <saumya> hi how to install rediffbol on ubuntu
[15:47] <saumya> hi how to install rediffbol
[15:47] <Daghdha> In diskmanager i selected 'check array' .. some time ago (over 10 minutes) the progress is static though. What did i actually do there? Start a full raid sanity check?
[15:47] <swatto> how do i remove a directory that is not empty?
[15:47] <ferrer3> Can somebody help me? I cant change brightness on my Sony Vaio PC . Ubuntu 10.10.
[15:48] <ferrer3> Video Intel VGA HD
[15:48] <frold> How to reinstall Ubuntu 10.04 on a 10.04? I did manage to remove some packages I shouldnt remove... Now it will not start and I dont manage to get internet acess... Now Im on a live CD running from my USB stick...
[15:48] <Daghdha> swatto: Did you try the panel ?
[15:48] <Daghdha> There's abrightness applet for the panel
[15:48] <erUSUL> swatto: rm -r directory/
[15:48] <saumya> how to install rediffbol
[15:48] <swatto> erUSUL: ty
[15:49] <erUSUL> !wine | saumya
[15:49] <saumya> ?
[15:49] <Daghdha> ferrer3: There's abrightness applet for the panel
[15:49] <stimpie> does anyone know how to switch to the window demanding attention with unity?
[15:49] <eamon> Anyone know a good TV tuner that'll work with ubuntu linux?
[15:49] <techbreak> hi, which IDE/tool is good for c/c++ in Ubuntu ..
[15:49] <ferrer3> Daghdha doesnt work, like it doesnt work in power manager too...
[15:49] <erUSUL> !ide | techbreak
[15:49] <Daghdha> 'k
[15:50] <erUSUL> techbreak: anjuta? geany
[15:50] <ferrer3> Brightness always on maximum
[15:50] <techbreak> erUSUL: which one is good.. ?
[15:50] <saumya> thanks
[15:50] <erUSUL> techbreak: try them and see. i do not use any
[15:50] <techbreak> erUSUL: is there something like gcc ? I heard its good.. don't have much idea
[15:50] <techbreak> erUSUL: what do you use ?
[15:50] <erUSUL> techbreak: or go to their websites... se the feature list etc...
[15:51] <dd214> eamon: Hauppauge are great for LNX, WinTV HVR 1600
[15:51] <saumya> how to create root user on ubuntu?
[15:51] <demonspork> ! root | saumya
[15:51] <erUSUL> techbreak: gcc is the compiler ( command line ) anjuta and geany are ides with editor project management integrated debugging etc...
[15:52] <demonspork> ! sudo | saumya
[15:52] <erUSUL> techbreak: both use gcc under the hood
[15:52] <techbreak> erUSUL: ok.. I can run c/c++ with gcc too right ?
[15:52] <dd214> eamon of course the software isn't supported, but will be detected by your OS.  Are you setting up a HTPC?
[15:52] <DarkAce> Dear All people
[15:52] <erUSUL> techbreak: yes
[15:52] <techbreak> !gcc
[15:52] <erUSUL> techbreak: if you only want the command line conmpiler install build-essential package
[15:53] <techbreak> how to do that ? erUSUL
[15:53] <DarkAce> I'm looking for an email or another to make a repport about un bug, easy to explain to remake this bug, please ? Thank you for your help
[15:53] <erUSUL> !software | techbreak
[15:53] <erUSUL> !bugs | DarkAce
[15:53] <DarkAce> thank you :)
[15:53] <erUSUL> techbreak: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[15:53] <Daghdha> ferrer3: Can't do it with keyboard? (most laptops have Fn keys and special functios on F1-F12, among wich often brightness)
[15:54] <techbreak> erUSUL: I just want to write c/c++ code in gedit and then run them by terminal.. how to do that ? from gcc ?
[15:54] <erUSUL> techbreak: gcc -o executablename filename.c
[15:54] <demonspork> techbreak, yeah, just type "gcc options file.cpp file2.cpp" and so on
[15:54] <erUSUL> ?
[15:54] <demonspork> or something like that
[15:54] <ferrer3> fn keys + f5 f6 work, it doesnt effect on brightness.... it is always on maximum (
[15:54] <Daghdha> anyone know the command to rerun a program over and over and show the results on screen?
[15:55] <IdleOne> techbreak: you need to install the build-essential package
[15:55] <erUSUL> Daghdha: watch
[15:55] <saumya> any one want private chat?
[15:55] <eamon> I was dd214 I'm just putting a cap card in my new PC. I may expand it to a HTPC via network and small MythTV client PC but that's another story;-) I thought hauppage were the best alright, but the one I want is 100$ so I was wondering if there were other brands that were as good.... (HD support, dual tuner)  But it seems all  people aare talking about is hauppage, so I'll go with that.
[15:55] <Daghdha> thank u sir
[15:55] <eamon> dd214: I'm just putting a cap card in my new PC. I may expand it to a HTPC via network and small MythTV client PC but that's another story;-) I thought hauppage were the best alright, but the one I want is 100$ so I was wondering if there were other brands that were as good.... (HD support, dual tuner)  But it seems all  people aare talking about is hauppage, so I'll go with that.
[15:56] <Daghdha> awesome tool
[15:56] <b3rz3rk3r_> hi guys, im having trouble getting "gtk-redshift" to autostart. it is in the autostart menu and is checked, i have even set the entries as executable just incase that was the problem, but it is still not working. Any ideas?
[15:56] <techbreak> IdleOne: demonspork erUSUL : build-essential is already installed.. any man page for help with commands ?
[15:56] <erUSUL> eamon: i am sure the mythtv wiki/homepage has a list of supported/preffered cards ...
[15:56] <Daghdha> apparently i have started a resync of my raid :/ it's now at 7.8%
[15:56] <demonspork> eamon, HD support with dual tuner isn't going to be much less than $100 no matter which brand.  And even if you find one for less, that is the best and easiest to use though with Ubuntu
[15:56] <erUSUL> techbreak: man gcc
[15:57] <techbreak> erUSUL: ok, thanks :)
[15:57] <DarkAce> Sorry, but my bugs is not for a package it's in general for ubuntu
[15:58] <DarkAce> but not security vulnérability
[15:58] <stupidhead> hi all, i've just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop, and i've just installed nvidia driver and after reboot it has a black screen... can someone help me solve this problem please?
[15:58] <erUSUL> DarkAce: explain a little the bug. we may be able to tell you what package it aplies to
[15:59] <dd214> eamon G2G, I've never used MythTV before.  My HTPC critical requirement is to support Encrypted HD QAM and the ability to stream to extenders.. (ie, Xbox, DMA2100), so I run Windows7 w/ the CETON 4 channel digital cable tuner.  I don't lease any STB or PVRs from my provider, just a $3/mo Digital Tuner Card that goes into the CETON.
[16:00] <eamon> dd214: I don't know what any of that means!
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> eamon: are you using debianor ubuntu?
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> eamon: *debian or
[16:00] <dd214> eamon So far, CETON does not support LNX, there are some other cards coming online this year, but bottom line, if they don't support the HD QAM security, the Digital Cable Tuner cards will not work.
[16:01] <eamon> I haven't got the pc yet ActionParsnip but prolly the new ubuntu
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> eamon: i see, then why ask in #debian
[16:01] <compdoc> hauppauge does make good cards
[16:01] <EliteHunters> I'm have a Franklin Wireless U600 3G/4G USB Modem, is there a solution to run it on Ubuntu 10.10?
[16:01] <eamon> dd214: ah that's ok I only want the freetoair channels
[16:02] <eamon> i'll keep an eye out for those other cards though
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> EliteHunters: run:   lsusb   when it is connected and websearch for the 8 character hex id
[16:02] <dd214> eamon simply put, I want to watch TV in my house, all HD channels I'm paying for and not have to pay the monthly lease for a Set Top Box or Digital Video Recorder.
[16:02] <DarkAce> erUSUL : OK ; It's easy, lauch a dowload with a size more than you harddrive can be stock, and in a terminal lauch command : sudo shutdown -h +... ; and leave your laptop; when you go back to your laptop. he is stop, and if you try to boot, your ubuntu can't open because you harddrive is full.
[16:02] <ohsix> DarkAce: look for hueg files in /var/log brah
[16:03] <stupidhead> hi all, i've just installed ubuntu 10.10 on my desktop, and i've just installed nvidia driver and after reboot it has a black screen... can someone help me solve this problem please?
[16:03] <eamon> dd214: genius
[16:03] <Daghdha> shouldn't there be things in place that stop mortals to fillup your OS drive?
[16:03] <ohsix> DarkAce: nevermind, read that wrong
[16:03] <Daghdha> You running DL as root? :P
[16:04] <ohsix> Daghdha: gdu-volume monitor will report when the drive is below a certain amount of free space
[16:04] <Daghdha> pff :)
[16:04] <erUSUL> DarkAce: well we can fight user errors ... if you do « sudo  rm » with the wrong options the system is destroyed too
[16:05] <erUSUL> DarkAce: anyway ext4 should reserve espace for the superuser ( 5% ) so that problem does not happen
[16:05] <Daghdha> erUSUL: Only super user needs diskspace at start?
[16:06] <erUSUL> Daghdha: is reserved so no user can use it only the superuser
[16:06] <EliteHunters> ActionParsnip, you say websearch for the 8 char hex ID
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> EliteHunters: yes, you'll probably find guides
[16:07] <DarkAce> erUSUL, sorry but i use ext4 :)
[16:07] <Daghdha> yes i understand erUSUL. i'm just not familiar with what stops the boot when HDD is full and wondered if there could be processes in startup that cause boot to fail but don't run as superuser
[16:07] <Andre_Re> hey guys, I need some help with an ecryptfs home partition
[16:08] <Andre_Re> I want to move it onto another HDD
[16:08] <Andre_Re> therefore I duplicated the partition using rsync
[16:08] <erUSUL> DarkAce: really dunno
[16:09] <EliteHunters> ActionParsnip, not really finding any 8 char Hex ID's
[16:09] <Andre_Re> now, if I replace the old UUID in the /etc/fstab with the new one, it doesn't encrypt the file system on startup anymore
[16:09] <lescrooge> As I appear to be on a roll, can anyone help me with locating scanner drivers for the Brother MFC 5440cn that work. The printers drivers are a gem and work fine but the scanner is still holding out on me. TVM
[16:09] <Andre_Re> is there any solution for that?
[16:09] <ohsix> Andre_Re: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedPrivateDirectory#Recovering%20Your%20Data%20Manually
[16:09] <ohsix> lescrooge: what have you tried to scan with?
[16:10] <DarkAce> erUSUL, but if you think it's normal and not a bug, it's ok, for me, but it's dangerous to have not a small space to boot
[16:10] <lescrooge> the scanner inside the mfc5440 which from memory is an agfa 1229
[16:10] <lidbjork> Does anyone know how to turn off the Alt-Mouse shortcut to move (pan) a window in ubuntu?
[16:10] <erUSUL> DarkAce: check from livecd... mount the partition and see if there is any space left ( reserved )
[16:10] <Andre_Re> ohsix: I don't want to mount it manually
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> EliteHunters: not sure then personally. Have you contacted the manufacturer?
[16:11] <EliteHunters> ActionParsnip, no I haven't done that yet
[16:11] <peekaie> what are my options if the laptop integrated webcam doesn't show up in lspci & lsusb?
[16:11] <ohsix> Andre_Re: bummer, cuz it has all the instructions to do anything you could hope to do on that page, or you could copy the files out to a new instance
[16:12] <Andre_Re> ohsix: what I actually want to know is where to set, which ecryptfs are encrypted on startup
[16:12] <lescrooge> Perhaps I interpreted your response incorrectly. I can't remember the other drivers Ive tried except simple scan
[16:12] <Andre_Re> is there any startupo script with a list?
[16:13] <DarkAce> erUSUL, ok i check :)
[16:13] <DarkAce> erUSUL, just a question, have you tested the livecd for beta Natty, please ?
[16:13] <erUSUL> DarkAce: no; i haven't
[16:14] <rafal> hejaheja
[16:14] <DarkAce> erUSUL, ok, thank you, because when i use impossible to have UNITY (just to see the difference with Gnome)
[16:15] <lidbjork> lidbjork: Thanks! (Found it myself.)
[16:15] <swatto> Dont suppose anyone has a teamspeak server setup do they
[16:15] <EliteHunters> well I don't mind testing out Natty, but I need to solve my USB modem firstly
[16:16] <aboynamedblue> hey y'all.
[16:16] <EliteHunters> .....by the way I have a Franklin Wireless U600 3G/4G USB Modem, is there a solution to run it on Ubuntu
[16:16] <DarkAce> erUSUL, about my problem or bug i don't know the really name, if in the first installtion if you don't use the recommanded partition (with hom on the same partition with system) you can have any problem :)
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> swatto: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-install-a-teamspeak-server-on-ubuntu
[16:17] <aboynamedblue> can anyone help my get my Netgear wireless adapter running on my ubuntu desktop?
[16:17] <erUSUL> DarkAce: as i said i caonsider this a users error
[16:17] <DarkAce> erUSUL, i think in standard in recommanded mode, canonical will be choose two partition for home and system
[16:17] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: usb? pci? which chip does it uses?
[16:18] <aboynamedblue> usb, chip?
[16:18] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: is a usb dongle or a pci card?
[16:18] <aboynamedblue> usb
[16:18] <DarkAce> erUSUL, thank you for your help, bye bye
[16:18] <EliteHunters> if some one can nelp me out with this, I'll be greatful
[16:18] <aboynamedblue> netgear
[16:18] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: run « lsusb » paste output in apastebin
[16:18] <erUSUL> !paste
[16:19] <erUSUL> DarkAce: no problem
[16:20] <erUSUL> EliteHunters: did you tried to configure in network manager? i take it that you tried but the modem was not listed?
[16:20] <sidewalk> you guys know of any ways to stream audio from iphone to linux?
[16:21] <aboynamedblue> ok ran <<lsusb>>. what's apastebin?
[16:21] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: without the « » in a terminal
[16:22] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: pastebin is http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:22] <Riiick> someone here speaks Brazilian
[16:22] <sidewalk> eu falo
[16:22] <erUSUL> !br
[16:23] <bonny> Ok i had installed the game Battle for Wesnoth and i had installed it using the command sudo apt-get install wesnoth , now i want to remove it so i type sudo apt-get remove wesnoth but it says package not installed
[16:23] <bonny> Ok i had installed the game Battle for Wesnoth and i had installed it using the command sudo apt-get install wesnoth , now i want to remove it so i type sudo apt-get remove wesnoth but it says package not installed
[16:24] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone does anyone know how to run abacast streams on ubuntu?
[16:24] <aboynamedblue> ok, but can't paste. Gonna have to type it out, my ubuntu system will not be connected until I get this adapter working. I'm on a windows laptop.
[16:25] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone does anyone know how to run abacast streams on ubuntu?
[16:25] <hkfreedom> Anyone is using SSD drive with 11.04?
[16:25] <oCean> hkfreedom: all 11.04 issues in #ubuntu+1 channel
[16:25] <THE_GFR|WORK> is 11.04 any better?
[16:25] <THE_GFR|WORK> 10.04 was slow as crap
[16:25] <sss314> Is Ubuntu safe if I accidentally write C programs that write data to addresses they don't own?
[16:25] <hkfreedom> Thank oCean
[16:26] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone does anyone know how to run abacast streams on ubuntu?
[16:26] <junglejooze> Does anyone know how to activate the delete key on the notebook keyboard?
[16:26] <oCean> THE_GFR|WORK: not need to repeat that quickly, thanks
[16:26] <ohsix> sss314: yes
[16:26] <THE_GFR|WORK> oCean: thanks for that, do you know how to do what I am asking?
[16:26] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone does anyone know how to run abacast streams on ubuntu?
[16:26] <sss314> ohsix, Thanks.
[16:26] <induz> hello
[16:26] <IanWizard> junglejooze: if it's not working, then it may be a keymap issue. or broken.
[16:27] <IdleOne> !repeat | THE_GFR|WORK
[16:27] <bonny> Ok i had installed the game Battle for Wesnoth and i had installed it using the command sudo apt-get install wesnoth , now i want to remove it so i type sudo apt-get remove wesnoth but it says package not installed
[16:27] <induz> i have .iso CD raw file, i haev k3b how can i burn it on DVD??
[16:27] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone does anyone know how to run abacast streams on ubuntu?
[16:27] <junglejooze> IanWizard, I already researched a bit and there are people with the same issue, i just couldn't understand their solution
[16:27] <induz> is there a program to burn this iso raw file on ubuntu??
[16:27] <hkfreedom> I just brought a Intel 40G SSD, it is lighthing fast running 10.10.
[16:28] <ohsix> induz: growisofs -Z ?
[16:28] <THE_GFR|WORK> hey everyone does anyone know how to run abacast streams on ubuntu? I'm running firefox 4.0 on ubuntu 9.10
[16:28] <junglejooze> IanWizard: (Maybe I was a bit lazy too)
[16:28] <IanWizard> Hey everyone.  I'm trying to get the old quake4 demo to run on my laptop, but I keep getting an error about texture compression not being available.  Can anybody help me with where to look for this?
[16:28] <oCean> the_gfr|work: you are well aware you should not repeat that quickly, it has been pointed out to you before
[16:29] <THE_GFR|WORK> oCean: thanks for that, do you know how to do what I am asking?
[16:29] <IanWizard> junglejooze: is it people with the same laptop as you, or just in general?
[16:29] <IanWizard> junglejooze: do you have a link?
[16:29] <oCean> the_gfr|work I do, but have not intention at all to help you because of your attitude
[16:29] <erUSUL> IanWizard: you have to get a library for that texturwe compression to work with open source graphic drivers
[16:29] <THE_GFR|WORK> oCean: my attitude? what attitude? I have no attitude whatsoever
[16:30] <induz> do i have to download it?/
[16:30] <THE_GFR|WORK> Its just this channel scrolls really fast so I post again once my question is off my screen
[16:30] <junglejooze> IanWizard: I think I read about someone with an Asus book, I have acer, normally the Acer entries u can choose are working, just recently it isn't anymore
[16:30] <induz> i have k3b, is it possible by that s/w
 how can I switch off vls when opening my directories?
[16:31] <THE_GFR|WORK> oCean: if that seems like spamming/repeating I am sorry
[16:31] <IdleOne> induz: in k3b select to burn iso image
[16:31] <IanWizard> erUSUL: I assumed that it was a lib, but I have no idea which one, and when I search the repos, I can't find anything.
[16:31] <aboynamedblue> ok, but can't paste. Gonna have to type it out, my ubuntu system will not be connected until I get this adapter working. I'm on a windows laptop.
[16:31] <IanWizard> junglejooze: do you have a link to one of the solutions?
[16:31] <junglejooze> IanWizard: One sec please, I try to find something from a moth ago or so
[16:32] <oCean> the_gfr|work: you are very well aware you should not repeat. You have been told before. Just wait 15 minutes before asking again. If anyone is available that knows the answer, they might just help you
[16:33] <erUSUL> IanWizard: well the problem is that the texture compression tech is patented that's why linux distro can not enable it by default
[16:33] <THE_GFR|WORK> oCean: so they can forget my question and then yell at me for repeating even though they don't remember my question except that its the same thing? alright I'll ask and wait for someone to help, maybe you could assist me please?
[16:33] <DavidJonas> When using tar with --exclude=/path  is the path absolute to the system or relative to the folder I am compressing  ex: "tar cvpjf foo.tar.bz2 --exclude=/var/foo/bar /var/foo" or "tar cvpjf foo.tar.bz2 --exclude=/bar /var/foo"
[16:33] <erUSUL> IanWizard: the same happens with mp3 and a lot of other things that's why medibuntu exists
[16:34] <IanWizard> erUSUL: (and restricted repos ;) )
[16:34] <induz> ok using k3b to make image
[16:34] <induz> iso=image
[16:35] <IanWizard> erUSUL: ok, so I need to find the right texture compression lib for the driver, wm, or app/engine?
[16:35] <erUSUL> IanWizard: is for the graphic driver /mesa/lidrm etc ...
[16:35] <IanWizard> erUSUL: nouveau
[16:35] <brcorpuz> Hi. How can I fix bad sectors in my HD?
[16:35] <ubuntucitizen> join brussels.be.eu.undernet.org
[16:36] <THE_GFR|WORK> brcorpuz: you can't.  They are physical defects.
[16:36] <IanWizard> ubuntucitizen: fail
[16:36] <IanWizard> erUSUL: ok, thank you :)
[16:36] <junglejooze> IanWizard: now I cannot find anything anymore
[16:36] <THE_GFR|WORK> brcorpuz: replace the drive and get your data off the old drive with Acronis True Image
[16:37] <Pegasus-Rider> Or better yet, with a UNIX tool by the name of "dd".
[16:37] <brcorpuz> THE_GFR|WORK: Thanks, I thought there are some commands I can run in the terminal to somehow fix it.
[16:37] <junglejooze> IanWizard: it was very complicated, with outputs of keys when pressed and released etc..
[16:38] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[16:38] <IanWizard> junglejooze: I imagine that you're looking at a keymap problem.
[16:38] <erUSUL> IanWizard: http://dri.freedesktop.org/wiki/S3TC
[16:38] <THE_GFR|WORK> brcorpuz: you can fsck the drive and it can mark off the bad sectors afaik but you can't actually fix them ( mark the sectors as bad and move the data out of them that is )
[16:38] <Pegasus-Rider> brcorpuz, see if tar -cvf Archive_name.tar /path/to/the/mount-point/in/question makes sense to you.
[16:38] <erUSUL> IanWizard: if you use the propietary driver you will have no problem
[16:38] <IanWizard> erUSUL: oh, wow, thanks :D
[16:38] <junglejooze> IanWizard: can you steer me in the right direction?
[16:38] <Pegasus-Rider> Then you can recreate the file system, checking for bad blocks during the process.
[16:38] <aboynamedblue> okay I !pasted the output
[16:39] <junglejooze> IanWizard: Where could I go to try to fix it?
[16:39] <IanWizard> junglejooze: gimme a minute
[16:39] <junglejooze> IanWizard: I tried the different layout, ah yes  thanks sir
[16:39] <Riiick> alguem br ai ?
[16:40] <Riiick> alguem br ?
[16:40] <IdleOne> !br | Riiick
[16:40] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL:  I typed the output of lsusb into apastebin and !pasted
[16:40] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: what is the url ?
[16:41] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/592195/
[16:41] <greentea> lookin forward to the next ubuntu
[16:42] <Pegasus-Rider> Any Canonical employees here? What error code of 1926canistelubuntu<serial number> is supposed to mean in context of registering a new account?
[16:42] <frold> howto reinstall Ubuntu 10.04?
[16:42] <IanWizard> Where's the keymap settings on Ubuntu?  I can't seem to find it online, and I'm not on my Ubu box.  (reply to junglejooze)
[16:43] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: is the usb dongle plugged in ?
[16:43] <junglejooze> IanWizard: Here is a link http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=947699
[16:43] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL:  no, do I need to redo it?
[16:43] <erUSUL> IanWizard: system>preferences>kb
[16:43] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: yes; just  the new line you see with the usb plugged in
[16:44] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL:  kk
[16:44] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: being just one line tell us here
[16:44] <IanWizard> junglejooze: did you try typing the code on that page?
[16:45] <swatto> how do i change the owner of a folder and all subsequent files and folders in that directory?
[16:45] <junglejooze> IanWizard: A solution for hardy: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766204, can u use that also on lucid or meerkat?
[16:45] <erUSUL> swatto: chown -R whatever dir/
[16:45] <junglejooze> IanWizard: no
[16:45] <IanWizard> swang1: chown -R <owner> <dir>
[16:45] <erUSUL> swatto: which folder?
[16:46] <junglejooze> IanWizard: I just try out stuff too often and then have to reinstall because it's too difficult
[16:46] <smw> swatto, which folder do you plan to change ownership on?
[16:46] <swatto> erUSUL: its my teamspeak server files folder - i cant access it and want to change some settings for my virtual server
[16:46] <erUSUL> swatto: mass chowning system directories is never the correct answer to permission problems
[16:46] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL:  Bus 001 Device 006: ID 0846:9030 NetGear, Inc.
[16:47] <junglejooze> IanWizard: the code in the second link is maybe the solution
[16:48] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: can you do « find /lib/modules/ -type f -name '*ath9k_htc*' » in your system?
[16:49] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: do you get any output?
[16:49] <THE_GFR|WORK> oCean: thanks for no help, I fixed the issue myself, as in there was no issue the stream was down and I didn't know it.
[16:50] <quiel> hey guys, I'm looking for a lightweight browser? I'm thinking of Midori, is there something similar?
[16:50] <THE_GFR|WORK> oCean: no need to be a dick.
[16:50] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL:  no output
[16:50] <Palzieri> buongiorno
[16:50] <frold> !lynx > quiel
[16:50] <jobbos> hey how yer doing crabilus?
[16:50] <jamshoot> qwe
[16:51] <IanWizard> junglejooze: try   xmodmap -e "keycode 242 = Delete"
[16:51] <quiel> frold, heh, isn't lynx a bit too hardcore?
[16:51] <erUSUL> aboynamedblue: see here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1573035.html
[16:51] <IanWizard> junglejooze: and then see if the delete key works
[16:51] <junglejooze> IanWizard: I didn't see it sorry, so I just type that in, are u sure? :) thank you very much!
[16:51] <hiexpo> morning all my ? isok i formated a usb  with one partition  in which i will call /dev/sdb1   > I knw when i just open it that is the root of the drive but what is the boot of the drive
[16:51] <sunny> hi guys
[16:51] <jobbos> hi sunny
[16:52] <IanWizard> junglejooze: worst case, the delete key still doesn't work.
[16:52] <sunny> jobbos i am new to ubuntu
[16:53] <MK`> What program can I use to tell me the key code of a key I press?
[16:53] <junglejooze> IanWizard: roger
[16:53] <jobbos> Same here sunny lol
[16:53] <IanWizard> junglejooze: or another key starts working as delete :P
[16:53] <hz> hi all
[16:53] <jobbos> Been using Ubuntu 10.10 3 days now
[16:53] <sunny> i want some friends
[16:53] <IanWizard> sunny: make alot of money
[16:54] <ikonia> guys, try #ubuntu-offtopic channel for some chat
[16:54] <junglejooze> IanWizard: Oh, that message was for swang1
[16:54] <ikonia> this channels just for support discussion
[16:54] <jobbos> Well this is the place for that...i think lol
[16:54] <junglejooze> IanWizard: sorry I am atm updating the system, it's installing
[16:54] <sunny> i am using it from today
[16:54] <MK`> What program can I use to tell me the key code of a key I press? I have a key on this laptop that was designed to launch a windows application, it does nothing on Ubuntu and I'd like to map it to something else
[16:54] <junglejooze> IanWizard: can I still use the command?
[16:54] <hiexpo> how do i determine the rootand the boot of a usb drive
[16:55] <jobbos> Are you having any problems?
[16:55] <IanWizard> junglejooze: what do you mean?  update-manager is installing stuff, or you're updating the actual os?
[16:55] <jamshoot> Hello. Im using ubuntu 10.10 and need to create liveusb with other os ( winxp and opensuse ). Unetbootin, ubuntu imagewriter, ddrescue, google didnt works for me. So, is there any other way to do live usb ( i cant use cd/dvd)?
[16:55] <hiexpo> jamshoot, are you trying to make a multiboot usb?
[16:55] <jamshoot> nope
[16:56] <hz> guys im trying to resize  a partition using gparted: but it shows a warning yellow triangle saying the partition contains some bad sectors... it suggests to use chkdsk on windows.. i did it and this scan didnt found any problem or damaged cluster
[16:56] <jamshoot> i need atleast 1 os per 1 usb
[16:56] <hiexpo> jamshoot, just a single os
[16:56] <hz> gparted continues to say the partitions have ones
[16:56] <jamshoot> yup, single os
[16:56] <hz> *partition has ones
[16:56] <IanWizard> jamshoot: yeah, unetbootin is pretty much the best (for writing an iso),  If you're trying to write an actual drive image, then IDK what to use for windows.
[16:56] <IanWizard> junglejooze: you there?
[16:56] <hiexpo> jamshoot, what distro you wanting to put on it ?
[16:57] <jamshoot> OpenSuse and/or Windows XP
[16:57] <MK`> hz: look at the SMART data on ubuntu via the disk utility
[16:57] <jamshoot> Unetbootin cant create liveusb for opensuse
[16:57] <hiexpo> jamshoot, you can use unetbootin
[16:58] <hiexpo> jamshoot, yes
[16:58] <junglejooze> IanWizard: Forget it
[16:58] <BluesKaj> hz, if it's a ntfs partition, sometimes defragging will help get rid of the warnings ..I'll probly be corrected for this suggestion , but I have to say that it worked for me.
[16:58] <jamshoot> yes, i can =), but it didnt works. There is some error like cant find gfxboot, when i try to start burned usb
[16:59] <jamshoot> that was for opensuse
[16:59] <jamshoot> for winxp usb error is something like "cant find kernel"
[16:59] <junglejooze> IanWizard: Delete key still not working after the command
[17:00] <IanWizard> junglejooze: I don't know then, if that didn't fix it, then I can't really help.
[17:00] <jamshoot> is there any other software that burning usb's?
[17:00] <Heliodor> Im trying to get Deluge to start headless, but it refuses to start, where can i check the daemon startup logs?
[17:01] <junglejooze> IanWizard: Thanks really for the effort
[17:01] <IanWizard> junglejooze: if you do find a command that works though (and you have to run it each time after you boot) put it in /etc/rc.local
[17:01] <junglejooze> IanWizard:  I try 5 more minutes and give up, these little errors are not worth the trouble
[17:01] <IanWizard> junglejooze: sorry :(   gotta go now though.
[17:01] <IanWizard> erUSUL: thanks for the driver help :)
[17:01] <hz> MK`: SMART shows me some bad sectors but i scanned the area and no bad sector in that partition
[17:01] <IanWizard> bye all.
[17:02] <junglejooze> IanWizard:  I'll do be safe
[17:03] <Bipul`> hi i have problem in my ubuntu10.10 when i started my ub ubuntu i am inside  command prompt that is initramfs
[17:03] <Bipul`> hi i have problem in my ubuntu10.10 when i started my ub ubuntu i am inside  command prompt that is initramfs idk how to Access graphical mode
[17:03] <audhi> omac omac wireless network is comming for me thanks thanks i am audhi ive chattes with you in morning thanks!
[17:03] <beeker> I thought the wayseer was paul atredes
[17:03] <sunny> no
[17:03] <jamshoot> sadness... =\
[17:04] <Sasha> Hi!
[17:04] <Sasha> I have a question about fdisk
[17:04] <JuhisFIN> Hello. I have annoying problem with my mouse in Enemy Territory. My FPS is good enough, but the mouse feels sluggish
[17:05] <Sasha> is there a way to make fdisk print which partitions are primary, extended, logical, etc?
[17:05] <b3rz3rk3r_> hi guys, im having trouble getting "gtk-redshift" to autostart. it is in the autostart menu and is checked, i have even set the entries as executable just incase that was the problem, but it is still not working. Any ideas?
[17:05] <lovesthethianood> is there anyway to control ones cooling fan via teh CLI? i have not noticed my fan turn on in a long time and im worried it may be busted,can anyone assist me in figureing out a way to determine if its still functinal?
[17:06] <lovesthethianood> laptopfan btw.
[17:06] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: could you paste the exact command you have put in autostart?
[17:06] <Sasha> can you see your internal temperature, love?
[17:06] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: sure, one sec while i find it
[17:06] <aeon-ltd> lovesthethianood: all laptops spin to max on boot for about 2 seconds if that doesn't happen then there you go
[17:06] <Sasha> one way to do is to run AWN (avant-window-navigator) and turn on temperature meter..and just watch it
[17:06] <Bipul`> hi i have problem in my ubuntu10.10 when i started my  ubuntu i am inside  command prompt that is initramfs idk how to Access graphical mode
[17:06] <lovesthethianood> Sasha: yes im sure i could but i want to determine if the fan is functinal not my temp.
[17:07] <lovesthethianood> aeon-ltd: thank you
[17:07] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: /home/b3rz3rk3r/.config/autostart gtk-redshift
[17:07] <aeon-ltd> lovesthethianood: if not just stress test it a little by running something intensive like flash video (hd youtube)
[17:07] <Sasha> love: the easiest way is just to listen for it, right?
[17:07] <Sasha> i have a question with fdisk
[17:08] <lovesthethianood> /join hardware
[17:08] <lovesthethianood> /join #hardware
[17:08] <sunny> sudo aptitude install wine1.3 not installs wine
[17:08] <Sasha> i want to see which of my partitions are primary/logical
[17:08] <Sasha> thanks :)
[17:08] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: thanks; /home/.../autostart is a directory, it shouldn't be part of the command
[17:08] <head_victim> quick question, when a user installs a PPA via the ubuntu software centre where does the apt line go? It's not showing up in their sources.list file
[17:08] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: you should just use "gtk-redshift" (without the quotes)
[17:09] <FloodBot3> !netsplit
[17:09] <candrea> ha
[17:09] <sunny> no
[17:09] <blargg> I installed samba, but don't want it running all the time, only at specific times when I enable it via services. I've found it has an /etc/init/smbd.conf file that starts it at boot. What's the proper way to disable this? I tried bum, but it doesn't list it.
[17:09] <candrea> head_victim: a file is created under /etc/sources.list.d
[17:09] <sunny> what is netsplit
[17:09] <head_victim> candrea: not /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[17:09] <sevith> HOla room!
[17:09] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: im running kubuntu, the location was under properties of the command
[17:10] <head_victim> candrea: only reason I ask if I've never used anything more complex than a text editor to change repository information so checking what's going on.
[17:10] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: its actually just "gtk-redshift"
[17:10] <aeon-ltd> sunny: when a server breaks off from the main channel therefore some users are disconnected
[17:10] <candrea> head_victim: no, the entries are created in a separate file by default
[17:10] <head_victim> candrea: ahhh thanks, makes a whole let more sense now
[17:11] <sevith> root owns all files in my /var/www/*
[17:11] <sevith> should i chown them
[17:11] <sevith> or leave them
[17:11] <sevith> Well somone logged into irc as root ? :/
[17:12] <jamesklyne> stupid empathy does igore those channel mgs either :(
[17:12] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: does running gtk-redshift from the terminal work?
[17:12] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: it does
[17:12] <EliteHunters> any help  with a franklin wireless usb 3g/4g modem
[17:13] <ubuntu> i'm sorry, does anyone have any advice on this fdisk thing?
[17:13] <ubuntu> i am getting the 'overlapping partitions' error
[17:13] <DannyButterman> Hi there. Is there a possibility to do a X server "per user" configuration ? I'd like to have only single screen for one user and dual screen for the rest of them
[17:13] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: actually, i think you might be onto something there, i may need to edit the command to give location settings. im going to try that and reboot to see if it works. thanks for the thought!
[17:13] <ubuntu> a
[17:13] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: could you open the right .desktop file in .config/autostart and pastebin it?
[17:14] <ubuntu> a
[17:14] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: ok
[17:14] <SashaShepherd> I can run fdisk
[17:14] <DannyButterman> ... Someone ?
[17:14] <SashaShepherd> but i can't run parted/gparted
[17:14] <ivancp> hello everyone
[17:15] <SashaShepherd> I get Can't have overlapping partitions. error.
[17:15] <cobas> hi, does anyone know why I might not have a /dev/dsp or a /dev/snd/dsp even though I can play sound via something like vlc?
[17:15] <SashaShepherd> And I think I have a primary partition in an extended one
[17:15] <SashaShepherd> but I don't know how to check
[17:15] <SashaShepherd> fdisk -l doesn't tell me what is primary or logical
[17:15] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL: Uhm, yeah, I'm have no idea what any of that page means, I'm pretty new to linux and all of the how-to's seem to assume an already working knowledge of linux. -->Newbie<--
[17:15] <Sonne> cobas, that would be /dev/snd/pcm[something]
[17:15] <DannyButterman> Please, per user X configuration ... ?
[17:15] <gregL> I have tried 2 different Firewire  pci cards..Neither show up in lspci or dmesg...Would anyone know where I can get the info to trouble shoot this..So far Google hasn't been any help...
[17:15] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, are you running the gparted live-cd?
[17:16] <SashaShepherd> i am now, yes
[17:16] <SashaShepherd> but it didn't help :(
[17:16] <SashaShepherd> my partitions are fuxxored i'm afraid
[17:16] <cobas> Sonne: and should /dev/dsp redirect to something like that then?
[17:16] <SashaShepherd> i just can't figure out how to get fdisk -l to tell me what each type of partition is
[17:17] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, are trying to save an OS/partition?
[17:17] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/592211/
[17:17] <SashaShepherd> blue: i had like 7 partitions
[17:17] <SashaShepherd> i had a very complicated setup
[17:17] <SashaShepherd> i need to resize, because i got a new hard drive
[17:17] <SashaShepherd> my computer boots fine
[17:17] <SashaShepherd> i just can't run gparted/parted
[17:17] <Sonne> cobas, you're not supposed to use /dev/dsp - that's OSS' device file, and it's deprecated
[17:17] <SashaShepherd> only fdisk
[17:17] <SashaShepherd> i deleted extraneous partitions to see if that would help
[17:18] <SashaShepherd> two test linux partitions
[17:18] <b3rz3rk3r_> candrea: im thinking if i change the exec command to include the location data then it might work
[17:18] <b3rz3rk3r_> right?
[17:18] <ralph> Hi guys. I ran fsck for the first time to check for bad sectors, and here's the output: http://pastie.org/1779294. Please help me understand the output.
[17:18] <SashaShepherd> my windows partition (that felt good ;)
[17:18] <mah454> haha ....
[17:18] <blargg> What's the proper way to disable a service that has an entry in /etc/init/? I'd rather not delete it, in case I want to re-enable it later.
[17:18] <cobas> Sonne: hmm, okay, the reason why I'm asking is that I'm trying to get mp3blaster to work, and most of the Ubuntu forums talk about a /dev/dsp or /dev/sound/dsp
[17:18] <mah454> I Use text client base for send message in IRC ... :D
[17:18] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL?
[17:18] <blargg> I just don't want it running at boot
[17:18] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: well, if 'gtk-redshift' works in a terminal, the it must work in autostart too
[17:18] <cobas> Sonne: it currently just gives me a "failed to open sound device" when I try to play something
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> now i just have a few partitions - swap as primary, and /, /home/ and my data partition
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> but it still doesn't like it
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> i'm afraid i set my / partition as a primary INSIDE an extended
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> which is wrong
[17:19] <Tatsuya6400> just wanna say i love ubuntu >.>
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> but i don't know how to fix it
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> me too :)
[17:19] <FloodBot3> SashaShepherd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> even when it's giving me a pain in the ass, ubuntu is brilliant
[17:19] <SashaShepherd> sorry :(
[17:19] <sunny> i  installed ubuntu 6 hour ago it didn't show  gparted  anywhere i know it from some sites
[17:19] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: I suspect that the cases here are two: either gtk-redshift depends on some other process started by autostart, or it depends on some environment variable that your shell sets automatically
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> sunny:  install it
[17:20] <ralph> Hi guys. I ran fsck for the first time to check for bad sectors, and here's the output: http://pastie.org/1779294. Please help me understand the output.
[17:20] <Sonne> SashaShepherd, what do you mean?
[17:20] <ActionParsnip> ralph: means all is well
[17:20] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, I suggest you save your /home and data folders to a USBstick or outboard then redo the partition table and reinstall
[17:20] <SashaShepherd> here is my fdisk
[17:20] <SashaShepherd> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592213/
[17:20] <ocool> hello !! i am getting error while updating "GPG error: http://repos.zend.com server Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EAE1437F7D2C623:
[17:20] <SashaShepherd> yeah, i might have to do that :(
[17:20] <sunny> actionparsnip: from where?
[17:21] <LtHummus> is it ever safe to forcibly unlock a package manager? i was installing a package and lost my ssh connection during config
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> sunny: software centre
[17:21] <ralph> ActionParsnip: Thanks! :)
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> LtHummus: its needed sometimes
[17:21] <SashaShepherd> what is the dd command to mirror one partition? is it: dd if="/dev/sda1" of="/dev/sdb1"
[17:21] <SashaShepherd> ?
[17:21] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: however, try including the location data as you proposed
[17:21] <ocool> can someone help me?
[17:21] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, I'm not clear on what you're trying to accomplish tho
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> ocool: ask and see
[17:22] <SashaShepherd> i can't run gparted.
[17:22] <SashaShepherd> that's my main problem.
[17:22] <aboynamedblue> Hey guys, erUSUL was trying to help me, but must be AFK. I'm pretty new to Ubuntu and I'm having trouble getting my USB wireless dongle to work.
[17:22] <cobas> LtHummus: try dpkg-reconfigure on the package?
[17:22] <ocool> GPG error: http://repos.zend.com server Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2EAE1437F7D2C62
[17:22] <ocool> ?
[17:22] <ocool> what is this error?
[17:22] <SashaShepherd> Can't have overlapping partitions.
[17:22] <LtHummus> cobas: debconf: DbDriver "config": /var/cache/debconf/config.dat is locked by another process: Resource temporarily unavailable
[17:22] <DannyButterman> nobody ?
[17:22] <ActionParsnip> ocool: sudo apt-key adv --recv-key --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 2EAE1437F7D2C62
[17:23] <sunny> actionparsnip: i will tried it it says not athenucate server
[17:23] <SashaShepherd> help
[17:23] <Riiick> alguem br ai ?
[17:23] <ocool> what should i do please?
[17:23] <Riiick> ola pessoa td bom ?
[17:23] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, are you telling us , gparted live-cd won't run on your pc ?
[17:23] <SashaShepherd> i think i accidently set a primary partition inside an extended
[17:23] <Riiick> #ubuntu br
[17:23] <SashaShepherd> BluesKaj: yes, that's correct
[17:23] <SashaShepherd> error: Can't have overlapping partitions.
[17:23] <Riiick> alguem ai ?
[17:23] <m4v> !br Riiick
[17:23] <Riiick> oi
[17:23] <m4v> !br | Riiick
[17:23] <SashaShepherd> it runs, but shows up as one big grey block
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> sunny: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install gparted
[17:24] <ocool> what should i do?
[17:24] <BluesKaj> !who | SashaShepherd
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> ocool: run the command I gave. You have added a PPA but have not added the key
[17:25] <SashaShepherd> BluesKaj ubottu sorry, I am kind of new to IRC :(
[17:25] <ocool> sudo apt-key adv?
[17:25] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL: Uhm, yeah, I'm have no idea what any of that page means, I'm pretty new to linux and all of the how-to's seem to assume an already working knowledge of linux. -->Newbie<--
[17:25] <pc02> hola
[17:25] <ocool> i have gave cmd ..but its asking message to write?
[17:26] <SashaShepherd> BluesKaj ubottu the problem is, my data partition is bigger than any external hard drives i have!
[17:26] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL?
[17:26] <candrea> b3rz3rk3r_: according to the manpage of gtk-redshift, I see that you need to set the -l and -t options; I'm wondering why it works with the terminal
[17:26] <pc02> hi
[17:26] <cobas> Sonne: are you still there?
[17:26] <ivancp> my gnome-setting-daemon consumes 100% cpu... maybe is a bug... anyone can help me ?
[17:26] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, so you're saying gparted live-cd can't access your partitions , does gparted give any oprions at all ?
[17:27] <xiong> ActionParsnip, thank you for suggestion to restart my machine to urge it to recognize newly installed, vendor-supplied printer driver. That worked, first time.
[17:27] <Jasonn> net.split
[17:27] <BluesKaj> err options
[17:27] <cobas> ack
[17:27] <ActionParsnip> xiong: good times 8-)
[17:27] <cobas> Sonne: are you there?
[17:27] <SashaShepherd> Blueskaj gparted shows only grey area. 320gb (all) 'unallocated'
[17:27] <smatic> hello
[17:27] <SashaShepherd> Blueskaj: with warning, 'Can't have overlapping partitions.'
[17:27] <aboynamedblue> erUSUL: are ya there?
[17:28] <ActionParsnip> ivancp: if you kill it, is it ok
[17:28] <m4v> aboynamedblue: he timedout a while ago :(
[17:28] <aboynamedblue> ah
[17:28] <aboynamedblue> m4v: I thought I saw him rejoin.
[17:29] <Sonne> cobas, yes?
[17:29] <pc02> how can i change my nick?
[17:29] <alexxio_> hi, i have a problem with grub and i want to edit some grub booting lines...but i don't know what is the config file for the newest grub...what is it?
[17:29] <pc02> :(
[17:29] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, so if you choose an unallocated partition and try to make it "new" you get that error message ?
[17:29] <Sonne> pc02, /nick [newnick]
[17:29] <SashaShepherd> BluesKaj: no, just that gparted doesn't see any of my existing partitions at all
[17:30] <cobas> Sonne: do you have any idea about how to fix the "Failed to open sound device" problem when I try and play something in mp3blaster?
[17:30] <pc02> sonne i cant :(
[17:31] <Sonne> cobas, why would you use mp3blaster?
[17:31] <SashaShepherd> Blueskaj: hmm...ok, i'm trying to create a new /dev/sda1, and dd /dev/sda4 onto that
[17:31] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, how do you know if you don't right click on one unallocated to see your options?
[17:31] <pc02> SONNE help me please
[17:31] <Sonne> pc02, why can't you?
[17:31] <kensama> hi everybody
[17:31] <SashaShepherd> Blueskaj: it will let me create new
[17:31] <sunny> dannybutterman:hello
[17:31] <kensama> i have a problem
[17:31] <SashaShepherd> Blueskaj: but what i need to do is resize..it won't let me do that, because it doesn't see any of my partitions
[17:31] <pc02> i am new here..its my 1 time here :(
[17:31] <aboynamedblue> Can anybody help me get my NetGear wireless adapter usb dongle working?
[17:32] <SashaShepherd> Blueskaj: my only options are 'new' and 'info'
[17:32] <Sonne> pc02, if you want to change your nick, type this: /nick something123
[17:32] <kensama> i've lost my password and the command line for retrieve it seems do not fonction
[17:32] <SashaShepherd> Blueskaj: and info gives the overlapping partitions error
[17:32] <kensama> any idea
[17:32] <kensama> ?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> aboynamedblue: run:  lsusb   websearch for the 8 character hex id
[17:32] <cobas> pc2, type /nick somenewname into the window you're chatting in.
[17:32] <Sonne> kensama, what command line to retreive it?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> kensama: hold shift at boot, select recovery mode then select root
[17:32] <BluesKaj> SashaShepherd, what fs are these partitions?
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> kensama: you can now run:  passwd foo      change 'foo' to your username
[17:33] <kensama> this http://www.astucesinternet.com/modules/news/article.php?storyid=39
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> kensama: reboot by running:  reboot     and boot as normal
[17:33] <SashaShepherd> BluesKaj: ext3
[17:33] <pc02> sonne yes..i am doing..but   /nick JUSTIN....its working
[17:33] <SashaShepherd> BluesKaj: all ext3 except for swap
[17:33] <aboynamedblue> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I was already directed the way, but every how-to or help page assumes you're already pretty darn familiar with manipulating linux: I'm not.
[17:33] <pc02> is not working
[17:33] <Sonne> pc02, there's already a justin online
[17:33] <Sonne> try choosing another one
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> aboynamedblue: you can type: lsusb in a terminal, then copy and paste it to a websearch, it's not hard
[17:34] <candrea> kensama: are you trying to reset the password of your Ubuntu user or of your FreeNode account?
[17:34] <kensama> @ActionParsnip i dont talk about Ubuntu sorry but about IRC
[17:34] <pc02> sonne....i cant see any justin
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> aboynamedblue: from what I recall, those things 9 times of 10 need ndisgtk + windows wrapper
[17:34] <ActionParsnip> kensama: you should have made that clear, ask in #freenode
[17:34] <candrea> kensama: you'll find more help if ask for help in #freenode
[17:34] <aboynamedblue> ActionParsnip: Yeah, I already did that, the pages I found all written in linux Greek.
[17:34] <kensama> oki
[17:35] <Sonne> cobas, still there?
[17:35] <cobas> Sonne: yeah
[17:35] <JUSTIN1> sonne thanks u so much
[17:35] <Sonne> JUSTIN1, np
[17:35] <cobas> still have no clue how to do this without some kind of oss emulation
[17:35] <JUSTIN1> sonne this chat i from ???? wich country?
[17:35] <Sonne> cobas, why do you want to use mp3blaster?
[17:35] <cobas> it's the best console based mp3 player I know of
[17:35] <SashaShepherd> Tatuya6400! Albuquerque, what's up!
[17:35] <cobas> ncurses based player
[17:35] <ruan> cobas: have you tried moc?
[17:36] <Sonne> cobas, it doesn't seem to support anything else than OSS though
[17:36] <ruan> !info moc
[17:36] <Sonne> 20091009 SVN doesn't look quite new either...
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> aboynamedblue: use a wired connection and get fully updated and install ndisgtk  then grab the windows driver and use the ndisgtk app to install the driver
[17:36] <Sonne> JUSTIN1, this chat is Ubuntu's official technical support, it's not really made for social talk
[17:36] <JUSTIN1> sonne this chat is from wich country??
[17:36] <Sonne> !offtopic | JUSTIN1
[17:36] <cobas> hmm, lemme grab moc
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> Sonne: could use vlc-nox
[17:37] <aboynamedblue> ActionParsnip: ok, let me try that, thanks.
[17:37] <JUSTIN1> sonne ok
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> cobas: vlc-nox maybe
[17:37] <ruan> !info vlc-nox
[17:37] <Sonne> ActionParsnip, does it have an UI? might as well just throw an mplayer otherwise
[17:37] <ruan> hmm looks nice
[17:37] <SashaShepherd> BluesKaj: oh well..thanks for the help..i guess i will try later
[17:38] <SashaShepherd> bye bye everyone
[17:38] <ernest_> buenas
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> Sonne: it uses a terminal interface, which I guessed was desired
[17:38] <naty> ?
[17:38] <ruan> how do i run vlc-nox?
[17:38] <shakir> when Im using update menager its come out : Faild to donwload repository information Check your internet connection
[17:38] <Sonne> ActionParsnip, you mean an ncurses UI?
[17:38] <JUSTIN1> #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:39] <Sonne> or just "can be launched without X"
[17:39] <naty> gente como funciona isso?
[17:39] <Sonne> JUSTIN1, try typing this: /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[17:39] <Sonne> !es | naty
[17:39] <cobas> basically, I have a headless box hooked to some speakers, and I want a good way to play stuff from it, there's vlc's http interface, but I find it really not user friendly, whereas mp3blaster has quite a nice interface with playlists and shuffle, sort, etc
[17:39] <ruan> moc has all that
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Sonne: can't remember, it may be curses based
[17:39] <naty> ok
[17:39] <ruan> i've tried moc and it has shuffle, repeat, playlists, file browser
[17:39] <Sonne> cobas, you could use vnc :)
[17:40] <ruan> headless sonne
[17:40] <cobas> yeah, that's what I do at the moment, but seems a bit of a heavyweight solution ;)
[17:40] <ruan> hmm
[17:40] <cobas> I was just going to go with a screened mp3blaster session
[17:40] <Sonne> ruan, headless means without monitor, that doesn't imply not being able to run vnc :)
[17:40] <prprabhu>  /msg NickServ identify prasad
[17:40] <ruan> ok.
[17:40] <ActionParsnip> cobas: I use ssh with X forwarding, the sound comes out of the server but the gui shows on the local system
[17:40] <jamesklyne> x11vnc runs good for me
[17:41] <Sonne> ActionParsnip, that would shut off as soon as he logs out
[17:41] <jamesklyne> -forever
[17:41] <cobas> it's a neat little box, I actually have KVM over IP with it, on top of VLC
[17:41] <Sonne> cobas, you look like someone who isn't afraid to get his hands dirty. have you ever heard of xpra?
[17:41] <ActionParsnip> Sonne: I guess, I also use the http interface for vlc and connect to it using my phone to control it, android rocks :)
[17:42] <ruan> moc(p) is good
[17:42] <ocool> please tell me how to uninstall zend
[17:42] <cobas> I've just fired up mocp... what's volume control on this...
[17:42] <cobas> Sonne: what's xpra?
[17:42] <Sonne> cobas, X11 proxy
[17:42] <ruan> hold on, i'll check the man
[17:42] <Sonne> you can launch apps onto a headless machine and have them connecting to your own X server
[17:43] <cobas> interesting...
[17:43] <swatto> #!/bin/bash
[17:43] <swatto>  sleep 10 ; xchat --minimize=2
[17:43] <swatto>  /home/swatto/TS3Server/ts3server start
[17:43] <swatto> anyone know why that second line does not load at startup please?
[17:43] <swatto> works if i type it on its own in terminal but not through the script
[17:44] <BluesKaj> ruan, cvlc in the terminal  ?
[17:44] <ruan> cobas: so far i see you can launch moc with -v %   checking for hotkeys
[17:44] <ruan> where % is the volume percentage
[17:44] <cobas> actually, looking at the problem another way, are there any alternatives to vlc's http interface?
[17:44] <cobas> it'd be nice to be able to go over a browser
[17:45] <Sonne> cobas, btw you can deatach from screen and launch alsamixer for volume control :)
[17:46] <naty> I do not know moving right in linux
[17:46] <ruan> cobas: if you press "h" in moc it shows you all the hotkeys
[17:47] <ruan> cobas: apparently < and > determine volume
[17:47] <swatto> http://pastebin.com/3DjRfNyz << please can someone tell me why that second line won't execute when i run the script? it works fine if i type it on its own in terminal
[17:47] <naty> And I do not know which serves this chat
[17:48] <Jasonn_> j #znc
[17:48] <cobas> hmm. alsamixer -> cannot open mixer: No such file or directory
[17:48] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  dont merge them like that perhaps.. do each on own line. sleep 10     then 'xchat &'
[17:48] <naty> For me you are speaking greek
[17:49] <ruan> naty: what is your native language
[17:49] <ikonia> !gr | naty
[17:49] <naty> portuguese
[17:49] <ikonia> naty: try #ubuntu-br
[17:49] <swatto> Dr_Willis: do i need the ampersand?
[17:50] <ruan> i think ubottu is gone
[17:50] <ikonia> it has
[17:50] <swatto> brb gonna try it out
[17:50] <BluesKaj> !ubottu
[17:51] <naty> More to that serves?
[17:51] <BluesKaj> yup . ubottu is on coffee break
[17:51] <boairc> hi
[17:52] <Guest62525> I wanna autoport forward port 44453 UDp and 44463 UDP in ubuntu is this doable?
[17:52] <Dr_Willis> swatto:  try it without.. and with.. learn bash job control basics. :)
[17:52] <naty> Many figures gathered in one place only
[17:52] <ruan> Guest62525: you can port forward on the router and it will do that
[17:53] <naty> an?
[17:53] <Tatsuya6400> asdf
[17:53] <alexxio_> hi, i have a grub problem
[17:53] <alexxio_> i get this doing grub-install --recheck /dev/sda
[17:53] <alexxio_> http://pastebin.com/mBtGEvwY
[17:53] <alexxio_> linux is the mandriva partition and boot
[17:53] <alexxio_> but it does not go
[17:53] <FloodBot2> alexxio_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:53] <Guest62525> yes but i wanna use auto port forward through ubuntu because i cant forward any ports in my router itself, using UpnP in ubuntu?
[17:53] <Guest62525> such as uTorrent
[17:54] <Guest62525> whcih uses upnp aswell
[17:56] <EliteHunters> this franklin wireless 3g/4g usb modem is giving me some trouble, can anyone help out?
[17:56] <BluesKaj> Guest62525, try those settings in ktoorent , if you get nat errors try utorrent with wine
[17:56] <BluesKaj> err ktorrent
[17:57] <swatto> Dr_Willis: It didn't make a difference :( still doesnt load the ts3 server
[17:57] <wojox> Hey Old-un
[17:58] <BlouBlou> BluesKaj: I wouldn't use utorrent, it fails a lot
[17:59] <BluesKaj> BlouBlou, that's odd utorrent ran fine here in wine the last time I tried , a few months ago.
[17:59] <naty> ir q ganho mais
[17:59] <naty> não to entendendo nada
[18:00] <boairc> is it possible to have 3D enabled with Xinerama? I just installed ubuntu, enabled xinerama (3 monitors), but the windows and GUI elements move very bad. i mean windows move ok, but there's a lag when showing menus and stuff like that
[18:00] <naty> muitoa números para minha cabeçinha
[18:00] <boairc> 3d seems to be enabled, but for some reason GUI is laggy
[18:00] <Sonne> boairc, what's your video chipset?
[18:01] <Riiick> alguem br ?
[18:01] <Sonne> !br | Riiick
[18:01] <JohnHeikkila> Hey, installing updates on Ubuntu 10.04.2 emptied my boot folder, now booted ona live-cd. Is there a way for me to fix this? Like copy-paste the live-cd boot folder?
[18:01] <researcher123> after installing koffice I cant see it in Applications
[18:02] <researcher123> ?join #koffice
[18:02] <Riiick> sonne me responde privado
[18:02] <sss314> Can someone please explain what *exactly* does <Ctrl><Alt><2> do?
[18:02] <Abhijit> ssfdre38, nothing
[18:02] <ruan> ctrl alt 2 does nothing. ctrl alt f2 goes into full terminal
[18:03] <ruan> full console mode
[18:03] <ssfdre38> Abhijit: wrong person
[18:03] <Abhijit> :-D
[18:03] <Abhijit> sss314, nothing!!!
[18:03] <sss314> I meant <Ctrl><Alt><F2>,.. Does it log you out? shut down the GUI?
[18:03] <ruan> sss314: no
[18:04] <sss314> ruan, what no?
[18:04] <ruan> sss314: it keeps the x server running
[18:04] <researcher123> How to make an installed program visible in Application menu?
[18:04] <Abhijit> sss314, no it dont log you out. current gui seesion keeps running. at a time tty mode enabled. press ctrl alt f7/8 to go back to gui session
[18:04] <BluesKaj> Riiick, /join #ubuntu-br
[18:04] <Sonne> sss314, on linux you have a bunch of terminals at your disposal, from 1 to 7 by default - the 7th of which is the graphic one
[18:04] <BlouBlou> ruan: they are called tty
[18:04] <JohnHeikkila> ive-cd. Can I fix this w/o reinstalling? Like copy-paste the live-cd boot folder?
[18:04] <Sonne> sss314, by ctrl+alt+fX you go to terminal n.X
[18:05] <JohnHeikkila> Installing updates destroyed my boot folder, how do I fix it w/o reinstalling ubuntu?
[18:05] <sss314> Is there anything special in 2, or doesn't it matter?
[18:05] <Sonne> JohnHeikkila, are you sure you don't have /boot on a separate partition?
[18:05] <Abhijit> !fixgrub | JohnHeikkila
[18:05] <JohnHeikkila> Sonne: Nope, it's not
[18:05] <JohnHeikkila> Abhijit: Thanks, mate
[18:06] <ruan> need to fix that factoid. not only after installing windows
[18:07] <Riiick> blueskaj can you help me ?
[18:08] <BluesKaj> Riiick, depends on your problem . tell us what it is maybe others can help as well
[18:08] <JohnHeikkila> ruan: Might help ;D
[18:09] <EliteHunters> this franklin wireless 3g/4g usb modem is giving me some trouble, can anyone help out?
[18:09] <guest_> hu hu
[18:10] <guest_> hallo[
[18:10] <Sonne> EliteHunters, i'd be more specific if i was you,  might get you better chances of getting help :)
[18:11] <EliteHunters> Well, I have a Franklin Wireless U600 3G/4G USB Modem and I would like to get it to work on Ubuntu.
[18:11] <Riiick_> Can someone help me to activate my compiz fusion?
[18:11] <Sonne> !compiz
[18:11] <dd214> Where do I remove a $PATH value?
[18:12] <Sonne> dd214, by redeclaring it
[18:12] <EliteHunters> Well, I have a Franklin Wireless U600 3G/4G USB Modem and I would like to get it to work on Ubuntu.
[18:12] <Sonne> EliteHunters, that still isn't quite specific - what problem are you having?
[18:12] <ruan> EliteHunters: are there drivers on the manufacturer's website?
[18:12] <dd214> Sonne It appears each time I declare, the new path value is appended
[18:12] <EliteHunters> It isn't detectable in Ubuntu
[18:12] <Sonne> dd214, how do you redeclare it?
[18:12] <EliteHunters> and no there isn't any Linux drivers on the website
[18:13] <dd214> Sonne I want to remove an erroneous path value
[18:13] <JohnHeikkila> Abhijit, Sonne, Alrighty, thanks for the help. Gona try rebooting now.
[18:13] <Sonne> dd214, throw a "echo $PATH", and then export PATH="blablabla"
[18:13] <Sonne> where blablabla is your $PATH without the path you're removing
[18:13] <EliteHunters> and no there isn't any Linux drivers on the website, ruan
[18:13] <smith_> hi people i m new  to the irc...i have been using ubuntu for two years and now want to contribute in some way...please help me help the community
[18:13] <Abhijit> JohnHeikkila, welcome
[18:14] <Riiick_> Anyone know activate compiz fusion?
[18:14] <EliteHunters> It isn't detectable in Ubuntu, Sonne
[18:14] <Sonne> smith_, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ContributeToUbuntu
[18:14] <Abhijit> !compiz | Riiick_
[18:14] <dd214> Sonne  guess you're not understanding me when I say the declared value appends to the $PATH variable.  I want to remove not append a path value
[18:14] <Sonne> dd214, if you do export PATH="$PATH:bla" then yes, if you do export PATH="bla" then no
[18:15] <smith_> sonne:thank you very much
[18:15] <MSI``> I have Ubuntu 9.10 and I know it expires this month, but anyways I decided to move to Ubuntu Studio which I upgraded to that using apt but when I go through System > About Ubuntu it says I am still using 9.10?
[18:15] <hihihi100> i need help installing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1
[18:15] <Riiick_> hello <EliteHunters>
[18:15] <hihihi100> i tried to do it as a regular tar.gz, but it didnt work
[18:15] <Riiick_> can you help me ?
[18:16] <rotten777> i'm looking to find a way to remotely (ssh) unlock the encrypted filesystems on a server after a reboot... has anyone done this?
[18:16] <JohnHeikkila> Abhijit: Wait a min, I can see /sys,/srv,/opt,/mnt,/selinux and /proc are empty too..what the heck is going on
[18:16] <dd214> Sonne so there is no config file where the paths are stored?  There appears to be multiple paths delimited by colons, I just want to remove 1 of the path values
[18:16] <Abhijit> :-p
[18:16] <hihihi100> i need help installing https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-user-docs/2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1, it doesnt work as a regular targz, I mean configure make, sudo make install
[18:16] <Sonne> rotten777, automatically throw commands on remote machines? that's definitely doable. try searching for ssh key authentication :)
[18:16] <Abhijit> JohnHeikkila, they are nothing to do with grub
[18:16] <Riiick> Can someone help me?
[18:17] <rotten777> Sonne, is openssh-server running when it hasn't unlocked anything but the boot partition?
[18:17] <sam555> hello all!
[18:17] <JohnHeikkila> I know but I think sys should have something inside
[18:17] <Riiick> Can someone help me?
[18:17] <Riiick> Can someone help me?
[18:17] <Sonne> dd214, bash builds that path by default - if you want to change it, without specifying it every time, you can use your ~/.bashrc
[18:17] <sam555> can anyone tell me how to get yahoo messenger working with empathy IM client?
[18:17] <sam555> AIM works, but yahoo no go
[18:17] <Sonne> rotten777, what?
[18:17] <JohnHeikkila> (duhh)
[18:17] <Noor_egy> hello
[18:17] <dd214> Sonne i tried that.. gedit and didn't see the other paths that are listed when running echo $PATH
[18:18] <rotten777> Sonne, when the system boots, it has a BIOS password which is bypassed because of WOL boot; it loads the boot partition; then has to decrypt the other partitions before it can boot
[18:18] <Sonne> dd214, that's because they're built automatically by bash on launch, as i told you
[18:18] <JohnHeikkila> !ask | Riiick
[18:18] <Sonne> but if you explicitly add a PATH redeclaration in .bashrc, it's gonna be the default for the next times
[18:18] <rotten777> Sonne, as this is a server, I cannot have it automatically unlock the encrypted contents
[18:18] <rotten777> Sonne, I need to enter the key to unlock the encrypted filesystems manually
[18:18] <dd214> Sonne thnx for your help
[18:19] <Sonne> rotten777, what is encrypted? the whole filesystem or just the data?
[18:19] <rotten777> the whole filesystem outside of /boot
[18:19] <Sonne> dd214, np
[18:19] <Sonne> rotten777, then you're screwed, you need a keyboard
[18:19] <bonhoffer> i am trying to connect a wireless bridge to my ubuntu -- how do i get the ethernet to pick up
[18:20] <bonhoffer> there is wired connection 1 that i can select, but it doesn't seem to get an ip
[18:20] <rotten777> Sonne, that's what I was afraid of. I think I need a hardware console server to enter it via console
[18:21] <Sonne> rotten777, or you might choose to reinstall the thing "clear text" and only encrypt the sensitive data
[18:21] <Sonne> rotten777, another option could be to use an usb dongle with the key on it, but it's not so intuitive
[18:21] <bonhoffer> ifup type command
[18:22] <bonhoffer> or something
[18:22] <rotten777> Sonne, that adds physical security to the list of protections ;) right now someone could literally steal the server and get nothing.
[18:22] <Sonne> rotten777, if you only encrypted the data, one could literally steal the server and get a linux installation. whoo, exciting.
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> if i stole a server.. i would just want the parts. :)
[18:23] <rotten777> Sonne, full encryption plus an offsite encrypted tunneled rsync means 100% safe
[18:23]  * Sonne highs five to Dr_Willis 
[18:23] <MSI``> I have Ubuntu 9.10 and I know it expires this month, but anyways I decided to move to Ubuntu Studio which I upgraded to that using apt but when I go through System > About Ubuntu it says I am still using 9.10?
[18:23] <hihihi100> i need help to install gnome-user-docs_2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1.tar.gz
[18:23] <bonhoffer> is there a network connect setup wizzard
[18:23] <rotten777> Sonne, and they would see what type of encryption scheme and start working away on  it
[18:23] <rotten777> bah servers are dime a dozen. hardware is dirt cheap
[18:23] <Sonne> rotten777, and then get a cluster of space ships from star wars to crack aes512 and get the results in a few thousand years, sure
[18:23] <MK`> What program can I use to tell me the key code of a key I press? I have a key on this laptop that was designed to launch a windows application, it does nothing on Ubuntu and I'd like to map it to something else
[18:24] <Sonne> MK`, try xev
[18:24] <Noor_egy> hello
[18:24] <Noor_egy> yesterday i asked question here that i made alias to folder in partion d to acess it by my apache server but it alays gives me u dont have permission to acess this folder and they told me that its cause that this partioon is ntfs is there is any solutin to this propleme
[18:24] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  depending on the key. You may see a message in dmesg output when you Hit it.. that may give some info on setting it up
[18:24] <bonhoffer> any way to force a manual ip address?
[18:24] <Debolaz> Are there other IM clients available than Empathy which supports the use of webcam?
[18:25] <rotten777> bonhoffer : in network-manage you can specify a manual address...
[18:26] <Guest62525> ANyne here able to auto port forward 2 ports for me using UpnP in Ubuntu?
[18:26] <Guest62525> dunno howto
[18:32] <Sonne> rotten777, and anyway, anybody capable of cracking that kind of encryption (read: aliens) can surely tell whether a filesystem is or isn't encrypted.
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> Noor_egy:  you have to mount the ntfs with the proper options, and perhaps set apache up to follow links and ignore any  security warnings it may warn about from  accessing the ntfs with the options
[18:32] <Sonne> so full encryption only helps you feel more secure, does nothing but slowing down the system and making it uncomfortable, in reality
[18:32] <lolmatic> hi, im looking for a program which can sync files with google docs
[18:32] <MSI``> how to upgrade 9.10 to 10?
[18:32] <bonhoffer> i am trying to make a new wired connection, but i need to put in a mac-address?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> !upgrade
[18:32] <mehdi__> hey fellas how can i have offline application installation?
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> bonhoffer:  your hardware has its own MAC address. You shouldent need to enter that info
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, did xev work? :)
[18:32] <Noor_egy> Dr_Willis: mount the ntfs with the proper options => what does this mean
[18:32] <MK`> reading up on it Sonne
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, just fire up a terminal and type "xev", move the mouse pointer to the window and press the key :)
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> Noor_egy:  means you want to make a fstab entry using ntfs-3g using the proper ntfs-3g options.
[18:32] <MSI``> Dr_Willis: I want to upgrade it with 9.10 installed
[18:32] <MK`> Hm, no, nothing
[18:32] <Dr_Willis> MSI``:  the update-manager -d command might do it.. I rarely upgrade
[18:32] <MSI``> but when I open the update manager it doesn't give me the option to upgrade
[18:32] <MK`> it also seems my numberpad's /, *, and - keys do not work, Sonne heh
[18:32] <MSI``> okay
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, those keys work for me
[18:32] <ubuntu> hello, can someone help me with this, i can seem to get firefox 4 installed
[18:32] <ubuntu> what do i do with this?
[18:32] <ubuntu> http://imagebin.org/147475
[18:32] <Abhijit> bye. gn.
[18:32] <Sonne> ubuntu, those look like sources - you should download an installer instead
[18:32] <MK`> Hm. My entire numpad o_O
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, is the mouse pointer inside the xev window?
[18:32] <MK`> Seems the problem is worse than I thought. Sonne: Yes. It registers all mouse movements, it registers my volume keys and letter keys, but gets nothing from the number pad or that other dead key
[18:32] <ubuntu> Sonne, k, how do i do that, I just went to mozillas site and downloaded for linux, if i go to synaptic, should that be firefox4, most up to date?
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, sounds like an hardware problem then...
[18:32] <Sonne> ubuntu, if you can use synaptic, you should always prefer that method over others
[18:32] <MK`> Sonne: they keys work on my installation of windows
[18:32] <Ascavasaion> I have an 80GbHDD in my laptop.  I partitioned it to 60Gb for Windows and 20Gb for Linux and swap.  I have MP3s that I copied to the Window NTFS partition.  When I open them with Rhythmbox and try editing the track information they default to Unknown.  Any ideas why some do it and some do not?
[18:32] <Sonne> MK`, hah! drivers then?
[18:32] <ubuntu> Sonne, k, yeah, ill just try synaptic, guess i prob shoulda done that first
[18:32] <MK`> Sonne: perhaps. I'll look into that next
[18:32] <ezhangin> I'm upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 and my mouse and keyboard just stopped working? I can't click to advance the upgrade since it's asking me for input. How do I resolve this?
[18:32] <ezhangin> I can ssh into the machine
[18:32] <ubuntu> Sonne, one more quick one though, what do i do with packages like that, or can i do anything with them, cause i get that with most downloads from a site
[18:32] <Sonne> ubuntu, turns out those aren't sources. try with synaptic anyway, poke me back if that doesn't work
[18:33] <hopster> Hey wotox you around?
[18:33] <Sonne> ubuntu, .tar.gz / .tar.bz2 files are just archives. god knows what is inside. just like .zip... most of the times though they contain sources to be compiled
[18:33] <Sonne> MK`, is yours a laptop?
[18:33] <MK`> Sonne, yes
[18:33] <Sonne> then you should try searching it on google..
[18:35] <ubuntu> Sonne, k, so i upgraded through synaptic and that still didnt bring me up to FF4
[18:35] <hopster> toodle pip!
[18:35] <ubuntu> Sonne, uninstall/reinstall?
[18:35] <Sonne> ubuntu, most probably it's because ff4 is not in the repositories yet
[18:35] <Sonne> ubuntu, have you tried searching for a "debianized" ff4 around?
[18:35] <jsquared> I have an SSH key `foo` on my local machine, which I use to ssh into machine X. From X, how can I use `foo` to log into Y?
[18:36] <MSI``> I did update-manager -d but still no upgrade option whatsoever.
[18:36] <Sonne> oh hey ubuntu, look at what i found: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-firefox-4-in-ubuntu-using-ppa.html
[18:36] <MSI``> n/m I just got it. thanks.
[18:36] <EliteHunters> What are the steps to get a Franklin Wireless 3G/4G USB Modem to work on Ubuntu 10.10, and there isn't any Linux drivers for the device on the manufacturers webpage?
[18:36] <Sonne> jsquared, ssh-add foo
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> theres dozens of guides on getting ff4 in ubuntu >:)
[18:36] <ubuntu> Sonne, not really, thats why i just went to mozilla to start, oh cool, thanks, will check out the link
[18:36] <jsquared> Sonne: There is no `foo` on X. It's on my local machine.
[18:36] <Sonne> jsquared, oh wait. can you repeat that more clearly?
[18:36] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if you are lucky.. you just plug it in and it will work.
[18:36] <sirninja> I'm looking at getting a desktop and I'm picking out the graphics card now. In general, should I lean towards AMD ATI or NVIDIA for best ubuntu compatibility?
[18:36] <hopster> Sonne have a look here: http://www.johannes-eva.net/how-to-install-firefox-on-ubuntu-linux#a_install_firefox
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if not. You may want to run the 'addational drivers' tool and see if it suggests any downloads.
[18:37] <Sonne> you have a key and log on X, from X you want to log on Y with the same key, is that it?
[18:37] <Guest62525> ANyne here able to auto port forward 2 ports for me using UpnP in Ubuntu?
[18:37] <jsquared> Sonne: [box A] <---> [box M] <---> [box B]. I have a key K on A, and only on A. I ssh into the middle box, M. Now I want to use K to log into B.
[18:37] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  avoide ATI at all cost.. is my advice... Nvidia, Intel, or.. well..   dont do any others. :)
[18:37] <Ascavasaion> I have an 80GbHDD in my laptop.  I partitioned it to 60Gb for Windows and 20Gb for Linux and swap.  I have MP3s that I copied to the Window NTFS partition.  When I open them with Rhythmbox and try editing the track information they default to Unknown.  Any ideas why some do it and some do not?
[18:37] <Sonne> jsquared, use ssh -A
[18:37] <EliteHunters> Well Network Manager didn't pick it up at start up Dr_Willis
[18:38] <Sonne> if you want it enabled by default ->> man ssh_config, check "ForwardAgent" directive :)
[18:38] <MK`> Sonne: I found it. The "pointer can be controlled using they keypad" mousekeys setting was taking over my numberpad. Disabling that allows it to work
[18:38] <Sonne> jsquared, also, make sure you have an ssh-agent running
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  run the addational drivers tool.
[18:38] <jsquared> Sonne: thank you sir!
[18:38] <Sonne> MK`, awesome!
[18:38] <Sonne> jsquared, np :)
[18:38] <hopster> tatty bye!
[18:39] <sirninja> Dr_Willis: Any knowledge if the NVIDIA GeForce GT 420 works nicely in ubuntu? I'd be paying extra to upgrade to NVIDIA and I just want to be sure it would work
[18:39] <EliteHunters> well then I'll have to VM the OS
[18:39] <EliteHunters> cause the USB modem is my only source for internet
[18:39] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:   Proberly will. i dont have that card. check the forums.. i would place better odds on any nvidia working.. then any ATI...
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if you ran Linux in virtualbiox under windows.. you wouldent need drivers for the thing.. since windows would be controlling it.
[18:40] <sirninja> Dr_Willis: That's what I've heard before too, but I've heard some people say ATI is at least improving now with their newer cards
[18:40] <Sonne> sirninja, if i'm not wrong i have that chipset
[18:40] <Sonne> and i'm running smoothly :)
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  'ati' has promised a lot.. and still has problems.
[18:40] <Sonne> ati has never worked properly once since their first release
[18:40] <aie> hello everyone
[18:40] <sirninja> Sonne: Oh really? Think you could double check that for me?
[18:40] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  I have a desktop that i cant get the ati drivers working in quiet a few differnt disrtos.. i got it at xmas time.
[18:40] <Sonne> sirninja, just a moment
[18:41] <MK`> Sonne: The dead key still doesn't register with xev
[18:41] <Sonne> lspci says GT216
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  ati is good at promises... not so good at delivering on them.
[18:41] <EliteHunters> True, but when I need to install it as my dominant OS, I'll still need to work around the problem Dr_Willis
[18:41] <Sonne> MK`, that's quite strange, xev should catch raw inputs
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  check dmesg out put. see if it mentions the key.
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  you could always get some USB dongle that has better support.  I dont use USB wireless. so cant suggest any.
[18:42] <Sonne> sirninja, i guess that's not it.. still, i hardly ever had problems with nvidia stuff whatsoever :)
[18:42] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  if it does need some exctra packages. you can download them  other ways and copy them over.
[18:42] <Sonne> except for that nforce builtin eth card back in the early 2000s.. that was painful
[18:42] <ThunderStorm> Hello,
[18:42] <ThunderStorm> I'm using the IDE Netbeans (text editor) on my /home/michael Ubuntu account. I'm trying to open a file with Netbeans that's owned by root, I can't do this as I expected. So is there a way to run NetBeans as root, or is there a way to give netbeans permission to open/save files owned by root.
[18:43] <Dr_Willis> ThunderStorm:  set the proper permissions on the file and the user can access it.
[18:43] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, why don't you just change ownership to that file?
[18:43] <crooker> hi
[18:43] <Sonne> sudo chown michael filename
[18:43] <EliteHunters> Dr_Willis well the USB Modem runs of CDMA and WiMax
[18:43] <ThunderStorm> The file is formy web server, the files need to be root
[18:43] <ThunderStorm> htdocs
[18:43] <MK`> [ 7737.217303] atkbd serio0: Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0x9a on isa0060/serio0).
[18:43] <MK`> [ 7737.217308] atkbd serio0: Use 'setkeycodes e01a <keycode>' to make it known.
[18:43] <MK`> May that be the error Sonne, Dr_Willis?
[18:43] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, since when do htdocs need to be owned by root?
[18:43] <sirninja> Sonne: Guess I'll spend the money and upgrade to nvidia just in case. So for future reference, do I install through the restricted driver thing or is it built in to the kernel? I assume restricted driver?
[18:44] <Sonne> MK`, might as well be
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  thats ;setkeycodes command.. is why i suggested checking dmesg a long time ago. :) system wont see anything about that key untill you do that command.
[18:44] <Sonne> sirninja, restricted driver indeed - ubuntu has a nice UI for that though
[18:44] <MK`> Heh Dr_Willis, what do I set it to?
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  i had an old keyboard ui had to use that command on - to set up all the media keys.
[18:44] <ThunderStorm> It' compicated
[18:44] <Dr_Willis> MK`:  you can map it to some other keycode. I recall some wiki pages on the topic.
[18:45] <ThunderStorm> I'm using Zend Tool (CLI) for Zend Framework, that sets up a default skeleton project with root ownership -- so I assume they need to be root
[18:45] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, anyway, you can either run netbeans as root (BAD) or work on a local copy of those files and then sync them
[18:45] <Dr_Willis> You could use the enter xf86_next   code  and it would act like a 'next' button I recall.
[18:45] <Sonne> ThunderStorm, i don't know that tool, but anything involving development and root in the same sentence is 99% of the times bad - or used incorrectly
[18:45] <MK`> Should i set it as another key like 'a' to test it?
[18:45] <EliteHunters> Dr_Willis so with that being my only option for internet, I really have no choice but to work around getting it to work on a Linux platform
[18:46] <sirninja> Sonne: I'm looking at getting a wireless network card, but it doesn't say the brand on the hp site I'm buying it from, but generally most brands will at least work now, correct?
[18:46] <Dr_Willis> EliteHunters:  learn how to download the files needed..  or set up some small lan/take it somewhere you can direct connect.
[18:46] <Sonne> sirninja, i'm not having problems with wireless cards on linux since 2004 i believe
[18:46] <Sonne> and by that time i was using an usb dongle with poorly written drivers on a powerpc ibook..
[18:47] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  it pays to do reserach for network cards..    its all about the 'chipset' the card is using.
[18:47] <BlouBlou> sirninja: years ago, ubuntu had a lot of problems with them. But right now, it works fine with the most of them
[18:47] <ThunderStorm> Sonne, cheers
[18:47] <syn-ack> BlouBlou, That should be "linux" had a lot of problems with them not Ubuntu
[18:47] <sirninja> Dr_Willis: I know, it just doesn't list the chipset on this page... I'll look into it I guess
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  yep. brand wont  matter at all  really.. its all about the chipset the card uses.
[18:48] <BlouBlou> syn-ack: well... yes
[18:48] <Dr_Willis> sirninja:  It has gotten where i can go to a local pc parts place.. and look at box's and actually Find Wirless cards with 'linux supported' written on the box. :) yea...
[18:49] <ezhangin> hey guys, i figured out a way around my dead mouse issue, i just used synergy
[18:49] <Dr_Willis> synergy is a handy tool.
[18:50] <MK`> Dr_Willis: when I tried that and some other codes it returns "Couldn't get a file descriptor referring to the console
[18:50] <MK`> "
[18:50] <aboynamedblue> Hey thanks to everyone who helped, got my NetGear wna 1100 working in harmony with Ubuntu; all is right in the world :)
[18:51] <ubuntu> Sonne, cool, thanks for the help, was able to follow that walk through and got 4 installed
[18:51] <ubuntu> Sonne, appreciate the help
[18:52] <ezhangin> yeah Dr_Willis for some reason all my input devices stopped working when upgrading from 10.04 to 10.10 and i couldn't choose any options to move the upgrade forwards
[18:52] <ezhangin> very strange
[18:52] <ezhangin> so i just hooked up synergy
[18:53] <chad___> How can I run executable files from a flash drive?
[18:54] <MK`> ah I needed to run it as root nvm
[18:54] <smith_> i want to contribute to ubuntu in its packaging and maintainence . Please help me.
[18:55] <ikonia> smith_: start packaging stuff up then
[18:55] <ernest_> hello
[18:55] <ezhangin> gtg
[18:55] <smith_> ikonia: how to give a start
[18:55] <ikonia> smith_: read the packaging guides and package up some test packages
[18:56] <Jon--> My gnome terminal is not using ALT as the MODE key (or whatever it's called) so I can't use it for irssi. It instead is using alt+num to switch to tab of num at the top. How can I reconfigure this?
[18:57] <ernest_> hello jon
[18:57] <ernest_> configure  in system
[18:58] <trism> Jon--: Edit/Keyboard Shortcuts
[18:58] <chad___> How can I give files residing on my flash drive executable permission?
[18:58] <mehdi__> how can i use apt-offline? i dont get the examples in  man page
[18:58] <smw> chad___, chmod 755?
[18:59] <chad___> smw: I'm not sure why I'd need '55', but all right.
[18:59] <ernest_> but right propieties
[18:59] <smw> chad___, you don't
[19:00] <ernest_> español
[19:00] <smw> chad___, 55 allows everyone to execute it
[19:00] <smw> !es | ernest_
[19:00] <matthew_> hey i need some help
[19:00] <smw> !ask | matthew_
[19:00] <ernest_> sudo chmod 755 /direccionarchivo
[19:00] <chad___> I tried chmod -R 700 /media/SD, but no luck.
[19:01] <Jon--> Does anyone want to help me make a complicated script?
[19:01] <ernest_> - R recursive
[19:01] <smw> !anyone > Jon--
[19:01] <matthew_> i am trying to us my hdmi out on my laptop it is working sorta but the tv cuts out some of my desktop and i dont see the whole desktop on my tv for some reason this hast to be a easy fix i have tried google
[19:01] <ernest_> change files
[19:01] <smw> ernest_, are you talking to someone?
[19:01] <mehdi__> say ur problem Jon--
[19:02] <ikonia> matthew_: why does there have to be an easy fix ?
[19:02] <matthew_> ikonia, cause all it needs is to be resized
[19:02] <ikonia> Jon--: scripting, the people in #bash may want to help
[19:02] <MK`> Ok Sonne and Dr_Willis, I was able to map the dead key, and find it's xf86 name. However I also have a Fn key on this keyboard that doesn't register in xev, nor does it give an error in dmesg. Any idea what that could be?
[19:02] <ikonia> matthew_: so, why does that need to be easy, I had a lot of problems configuring my hdmi for video and sound on my laptop, very little of it was "easy"
[19:03] <Jon--> I need to somehow distinguish one terminal from another using its PID in wmctrl -l so I can have one scratchpad terminal that I move around but I want to have other gnome-terminal's open as well which won't be found by my script. My script as it is just finds the first gnome-terminal instance it can. See http://pastebin.com/upWSUdrU for my current script.
[19:03] <miles__> Hey everyone whats up.
[19:03] <matthew_> ikonia,  it was a easy fix in windows but your right
[19:03] <ACameron> I'm trying to determine if there are any differences between the files in two folders.  One is on a digital camera connected to my computer; the other is on a hard drive.  I can't open the digital camera folder (gphoto2://[usb:###,###]/path/to/stuff) in the terminal so I can't ls and grep.  Any ideas?
[19:03] <ikonia> !topic | miles__
[19:03] <Psycho_Mario> in screen, when its vertically split, is it possible to scroll both regions at the same time? i want to be able to view files side by side
[19:03] <ikonia> matthew_: you're not using Windows, so it's a pointless comparison
[19:03] <matthew_> ikonia, over spekulation on my part
[19:03] <ikonia> matthew_: what video card is it ?
[19:04] <marina> hi
[19:04] <smw> hi marina
[19:04] <coz_> marina,  welcom
[19:04] <coz_> welcome
[19:05] <Just_Playin> hey all
[19:05] <coz_> hey
[19:05] <marina> I'm trying to configure nvidia card on ubuntu, it works, but I can't use with HDMI I googled a lot but without solution
[19:05] <ACameron> No ideas as to how to grep the directory listing of a folder on a digital camera, eh?
[19:05] <marina> and I've no errors.. how can I solve this?
[19:05] <ikonia> matthew_: how perfect timing, I was just talking about that with matthew_
[19:05] <Just_Playin> sems to be only network runnin    of the 4 i tried
[19:05] <Just_Playin> lol
[19:05] <marina> I'm using propretary drivers
[19:05] <ikonia> matthew_: what happenes when you said it to hdmi output
[19:05] <marina> nvidia-173
[19:05] <ikonia> matthew_: sorry, that was for marina
[19:05] <matthew_> ikonia, i cant find out its a generic one with my acer aspire 5336-2523
[19:05] <smw> marina, the video or just audio does not work?
[19:06] <ikonia> matthew_: chat chipset
[19:06] <ikonia> matthew_: "what" chipset
[19:06] <suicidolt> how do I set my app launcher to run a command, when I run it from command line, I go to the directory and type ./command, so how do I do that in the app launcher
[19:06] <matthew_> ikonia, im not sure how would i find out
[19:06] <Jon--> I need to somehow distinguish one terminal from another using its PID in wmctrl -l so I can have one scratchpad terminal that I move around but I want to have other gnome-terminal's open as well which won't be found by my script. My script as it is just finds the first gnome-terminal instance it can. See http://pastebin.com/upWSUdrU for my current script.
[19:06] <ikonia> matthew_: open a terminal and type "lspci"
[19:06] <MSI``> Once I upgrade to 10.04 from 9.04 will it effect my ubuntu studio that I put on there that I recently put?
[19:06] <ikonia> Jon--: try in ##bash
[19:06] <marina> ikonia, uh? how?
[19:07] <ikonia> marina: how are you trying to send the output to hdmi
[19:07] <marina> smw, both, I attached an lcd television
[19:07] <marina> I was thinking that when you connect in logs you can see that device
[19:07] <pc_magas> Here is the community of Ubuntu-gr.org (including me) @ Openfest in Athens: http://www.imagehosting.gr/out.php/i1534292_dscn1860.jpg
[19:07] <ikonia> marina: no, you have to configure it
[19:07] <ikonia> pc_magas: why are you posting that in a support channel ?
[19:08] <pc_magas> Just to give the presence of helenic community of ubuntu
[19:08] <Oins> I have a dictating machine (Sharp PA-VR10E). It generates .s16 .s32 .s48 file type formats. Anyone a clue what's that for a format and how i can play it at linux?
[19:08] <matthew_> ikonia, graphics controller Intel corporation 82801I (ich9 Family)
[19:08] <marina> ikonia, what do u mean? I can't see it in nvidia configuration panel
[19:08] <ikonia> matthew_: good, intel was the easier to configure
[19:09] <matthew_> ikonia, kk
[19:09] <marina> oh! "detect video" now detects it
[19:09] <ikonia> marina: by default your display will be your monitor/laptop display, you have to tell it to go to a different output
[19:09] <suicidolt> seriously? the linux support channel doesn't even know how to build an app launcher?
[19:09] <miles__> Damn, Why isn't there a linux version of halo combat evolved, Now i gotta configure it all over.
[19:09] <smw> suicidolt, what are you talking about?
[19:10] <smw> suicidolt, what is an app launcher?
[19:10] <iceroot> miles__: ask microsoft and not us
[19:10] <suicidolt> an application launcher, that you add to a panel
[19:10] <miles__> Iceroot: I know i'm just commenting on it.
[19:10] <ikonia> suicidolt: do you know ?
[19:10] <suicidolt> I came to ask
[19:10] <MSI``> LOL
[19:11] <ikonia> suicidolt: ok, so if you don't know, why are you complaining that others don't know
[19:11] <BluesKaj> miles__,complain to the game dev company for not porting to linux
[19:11] <Jon--> If I do 'gnome-terminal --role test' how do I then find the gnome-terminal instance open with role == test ?
[19:11] <suicidolt> because I'm brand new to linux, not the "support" experts here who apparently have no problem explaining how to build out hardware changes in the terminal
[19:11] <marina> ikonia, uhm still black screen btw now I can configure it :) i tried to configure it at 1024 x 768 twinview mode but still black
[19:12] <ikonia> suicidolt: doesn't mean they know what you want, when they want
[19:12] <dd214> I've mounted my Android phone for development, added the necessary paths for the SDK to the ~/.bashrc and paths are present in echo $PATH command.  I've also added the vendor rule to the /etc/udev/rules.d... and when I run a kill / start service against "adb" then run "adb devices" I get:  List of devices attached: ?????????????? no permissions
[19:12] <ikonia> marina: I'm not sure if it will work with twinview, I had real issues with nvidia and hdmi out,
[19:12] <ikonia> however the intel one worked much much better
[19:12] <suicidolt> ikonia: so you're saying that you've used linux for x years and don't know how to start a program?
[19:12] <matthew_> ikonia, so whats the first step?
[19:12] <smw> suicidolt, different people know different things and everyone here is a volunteer.
[19:12] <ikonia> marina: you may have to hard code options into the xorg
[19:12] <Dr_Willis> dd214:  try sudo adb devices   perhasps?
[19:13] <BluesKaj> suicidolt, is that a question , if so , please clarify your meaning
[19:13] <ikonia> matthew_: does the display manager detect your TV that it's plugged into, this was the real problem I found
[19:13] <ikonia> suicidolt: pretty sure I do, yes
[19:13] <miles__> I really need to get a better linux pc.
[19:13] <marina> ikonia, uh.. there is some documentation somewehere?
[19:13] <suicidolt> BluesKaj: when I did before I was ignroed.  how do I set up an application launcher to do this:  When I go to the terminal, I cd to the directory and type ./command
[19:13] <matthew_> ikonia, yeh it detects it and iv even was able to turn display out on it just dident show the whole desktop
[19:14] <smw> suicidolt, I have used it for over a decade and I don't know how to launch a program they way you want to. Nor am I sure I know what you want.
[19:14] <dd214> Dr_Willis when running "sudo adb" returns: command not found
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> suicidolt:  make a script that does the cd, then the ./commamnd  is one way
[19:14] <ikonia> marina: there was some notes in the nvidia driver release notes
[19:14] <marina> ikonia, I try to reboot tanx for ur help :D
[19:14] <suicidolt> smw: you see the little buttons on your panel? they're called application launcher
[19:14] <Dr_Willis> dd214:  sudo is using a differnt path.. perhaps  use the full path to the command.
[19:14] <ikonia> matthew_: ok, so it sounds like its detecting it incorrectly, hence displaying the wrong size screen
[19:14] <BluesKaj> !alais | suicidolt
[19:15] <ikonia> matthew_: you may need to force your TV settings into xorg.conf
[19:15] <smw> suicidolt, system -> preferences -> main menu
[19:15] <BluesKaj> !alias | suicidolt
[19:15] <matthew_> ikonia, ok
[19:15] <ikonia> suicidolt: right click on the desktop and select create application launcher
[19:15] <ikonia> matthew_: this was a similar problem I was having with the intel card
[19:15] <smw> suicidolt, and no, the actual entries are not called application launchers
[19:16] <smw> suicidolt, however the main menu program allows you to edit the menus.
[19:16] <suicidolt> smw: would you like a screenshot?
[19:16] <smw> suicidolt, what? I just gave you the answer
[19:16] <suicidolt> smw: and editing the menu requires the same command I don't know how to do
[19:16] <matthew_> ikonia, oh i dont know if this matters but i used wubi to install and it insatalled the 64bit version of ubuntu cause my windows one is 64 bit
[19:16] <suicidolt> it has a box to enter the command
[19:16] <ikonia> matthew_: ah, I don't support wubi, sorry
[19:17] <suicidolt> and I don't know what the command is, I know that in order to open it in terminal I cd to the directory and type ./command
[19:17] <matthew_> ikonia, ?
[19:17] <smw> !who > suicidolt
[19:17] <ikonia> matthew_: I don't support wubi installs, sorry
[19:17] <smw> suicidolt, you need to make a script that does that. Or, you can cd /path; ./command
[19:17] <matthew_> ikonia, ok
[19:18] <Navion> I loaded Ubuntu 10.04 on a new server with an Intel motherboard. I can't set the display resolution to be anything big enough to be useful. I know the display will do 1600x1400 (ish) and I tried loading OpenSolaris on this system and it lets me set the resolution up but Ubuntu wo't let me set anything better than 780x400 (ish). Solaris reports the video card as a Martox MGA G200e. Intel in their docs say it's an SM712. Any ideas?
[19:18] <suicidolt> smw: so the "command" box needs to say "cd /usr/local/games/nwn; ./nwn" yes?
[19:18] <matthew_> ikonia, would you mind me asking how come?
[19:18] <smw> suicidolt, I believe so. That is what I would try.
[19:18] <suicidolt> no such file or directory
[19:19] <ikonia> matthew_: I don't like technology
[19:19] <dd214> Dr_Willis  good thought.. I sudo'd the kill/start server command for adb by providing the full path.  After the server start, the device is now recognized.
[19:20] <smw> matthew_, probably because ikonia has never used wubi.
[19:20] <suicidolt> smw: no such file or directory
[19:20] <Ascavasaion> I have an 80GbHDD in my laptop.  I partitioned it to 60Gb for Windows and 20Gb for Linux and swap.  I have MP3s that I copied to the Window NTFS partition.  When I open them with Rhythmbox and try editing the track information they default to Unknown.  Any ideas why some do it and some do not?
[19:20] <bonhoffer> is there an easy way to make a window take up half the screen (vertically) in ubuntu default windows manager
[19:20] <dd214> Dr_Willis the next question: Where can I configure the adb file path so it's also globally available to sudo?
[19:20] <smw> suicidolt, ok, make a script and make the command the path to the script
[19:20] <matthew_> smw, probally
[19:21] <suicidolt> smw: how do I make a script?
[19:22] <matthew_> ikonia, could you tell me how i would do it if i dident use a wubi install
[19:22] <ikonia> matthew_: sorry, no, I don't support wubi installs
[19:22] <smw> suicidolt, you make a text file. You start the first line with #!/bin/bash
[19:22] <smw> suicidolt, then you put one cmd on each line.
[19:22] <smw> suicidolt, then you chmod 755 the_file.sh
[19:22] <suicidolt> hmm, neat.  what does the #!/bin/bash do?
[19:22] <ruan> tells it to open with bash
[19:23] <smw> suicidolt, it tells linux to use bash to run the commands.
[19:23] <miles__> Well, not playonlinux can't even configure halo CE right.
[19:23] <ikonia> miles__: we don't need a commentary
[19:24] <matthew_> any one know of a program that will help me force my tv out setting
[19:24] <bonhoffer> on mac, i use sizeup, which is a quick way to get my window to take up the left or right half of the screen, i am sure this has to be easy
[19:24] <bonhoffer> on ubuntu
[19:25] <miles__> Ikonia: well thats pretty rude, would you rather me start asking you questions even though your already helping others and then just get mad at you when you don't help me.
[19:25] <tv_> is this where newbies go for ubuntu hekp?
[19:25] <ruan> tv_: yes
[19:25] <tv_> do we ask questions here?
[19:25] <ikonia> miles__: not really, asking you to not commentate is quite reason, if you have a question, ask a question, if not don't
[19:26] <smw> tv_, yes
[19:26] <ruan> tv_: it's an ubuntu support channel.
[19:26] <aeon-ltd> tv_: yes, anything ubuntu support related is supposed to be asked here
[19:26] <BluesKaj> matthew_, tv out is VGA , DVI or hdmi ?
[19:26] <miles__> Ikonia: So you would rather get asked questions everyday all day. Pretty sad.
[19:26] <matthew_> BluesKaj, hdmi
[19:26] <ikonia> miles__: ask a question to the channel, we don't need a commentary
[19:26] <smw> miles__, we volunteer here to answer questions.
[19:27] <smw> miles__, are you saying that helping people like you is sad?
[19:27] <smw> milamber, I would be inclined to agree at this point.
[19:27] <smw> miles__, ^
[19:27] <tv_> I am having graphics problems on a dell optiplex 260 with integrated graphics. I cannot adjust the resolution
[19:27] <aeon-ltd> !attitude | miles__
[19:28] <matthew_> BluesKaj, i been looking all over to fix this problem
[19:28] <aeon-ltd> tv_: got drivers installed?
[19:28] <BluesKaj> matthew_, nvidia ?
[19:28] <matthew_> BluesKaj, intel
[19:28] <tv_> i cant find them.  i think i have intel graphivs
[19:28] <Navion> aeon-itd: Sounds like the problem I have. What's the graphic chip set?
[19:28] <miles__> smw: I haven't asked for help, the most i've done is waited since ikonia seemed to be the only one helping people while helping two people, it would make sense to not add another problem to it, saying the things i said gives chances to other volenteers to help me rather then me asking every user on the channel.
[19:29] <aeon-ltd> Navion: i think you meant to ask that to tv_
[19:30] <BluesKaj> matthew_, is there an intel GUI app to see your hdmi interface device
[19:30] <bet0x> Hello, i got an issue my Linux has a raid 10 with 12 disks of 2TB c/u over a Linux with hardware raid, 2 disks fails on my raid and now i dont know how recover that 2 disk to get my machine working again, there is any solution or recommendation here???
[19:31] <ikonia> bet0x: what is the raid controller ?
[19:31] <Navion> tv_, Sounds like the problem I have. What's the graphic chip set? You should be able to find out what the motherboard is when the boot screen comes up after power up before Ubuntu loads. Then Google forthe motherboard specs to find out what the graphics controller is.
[19:31] <bet0x> let me check
[19:31] <Navion> aeon-ltd, yes, thanks. ;)
[19:31] <matthew_> BluesKaj, not that i can see sadly
[19:32] <tv_> Integrated Intel Extreme graphics is what it says in spec sheet
[19:32] <ikonia> matthew_: hdmi is working, you need to force it's resolution in the xorg.conf
[19:33] <matthew_> ikonia, ok thanks
[19:33] <matthew_> ikonia, im researching it
[19:34] <bet0x> ikonia: MegaRaid
[19:34] <ikonia> bet0x: who makes it ?
[19:34] <ikonia> bet0x: lsi ?
[19:35] <tv_> Navion
[19:35] <bet0x> ikonia: MegaRaid SAS 8708ELP
[19:35] <bet0x> ikonia: yes LSI}
[19:35] <tv_> navation , Intel 845G Integrated Graphics
[19:36] <Danielcg25> I'm going to multi-boot Ubuntu, MacOS, and Windows 7 on my new MBP.
[19:36] <Danielcg25> Should I just format my HD as MacOS and use BootCamp to install Windows, then rob Windows of some disk space for Ubuntu with GParted?
[19:36] <ikonia> bet0x: the raid recovery/array tools are on board the card, presss F8 when you see the cards bios and you can add/replace disks
[19:37] <dadal_metal> hai all
[19:37] <matthew_> where is xorg.config located
[19:37] <ikonia> matthew_: it should be in /etc/X11/xorg.conf but you have to create it
[19:37] <ikonia> matthew_: the file is "xorg.conf" not xorg.config
[19:38] <tv_> mattew_
[19:38] <dadal_metal> !help
[19:39] <tv_> I need a driver for Intel 845G Integrated Graphics
[19:39] <ikonia> tv_: you don't it's inbuilt into your xorg install already
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[19:40] <Navion> Danielcg25: What kind of Mac? I just got done doing an Ubuntu load on a Mac Mini (4,1)
[19:41] <Danielcg25> 2011 MacBook Pro 13" Intel 15
[19:41] <tv_> why cant i change my resolution then?
[19:41] <Danielcg25> *i5
[19:41] <Bruce_Wayne> I want to add lyrics of a video song as a subtitle and then merge it.. any suggestions for tools?
[19:41] <ikonia> tv_: it may be falling back to the vesa driver
[19:41] <victorhugo289> Hi, I'm trying to use wireshark for the first time and I see no network devices listed in there, it shows empty. I watched like 10 videos on Youtube about how to use it only to see an emtpy list. Can anyone help me?
[19:42] <gsp2009> Bruce_Wayne: Openshot?
[19:42] <Danielcg25> Navion: 2011 MacBook Pro Intel i5
[19:42] <victorhugo289> I went to the #Wireshark but there's no one there.
[19:42] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: permissions? I remember having the same problem and having to run as root
[19:42] <victorhugo289> Really? I'll have to check that.
[19:43] <victorhugo289> How do I run as root?
[19:43] <ikonia> victorhugo289: sudo -i
[19:43] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: not sure if this is a problem though. It may not be recommended. But it will give you a start to troubleshoot
[19:43] <Bruce_Wayne> gsp2009: I meant, I will have to make some subtitle file (.srt/.sub) according to video song and then merge it.. Does Openshot provide such a facility?
[19:43] <tv_> ikonia
[19:43] <ikonia> tv_:
[19:43] <victorhugo289> I've been using Ubuntu for months and only ran as root in the terminal using sudo.
[19:43] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: just sudo wireshark from terminal
[19:43] <victorhugo289> ok
[19:43] <tv_> -ikonia: how can i check?
[19:44] <victorhugo289> ok
[19:44] <ikonia> tv_: the xorg logs will show the xorg driver in use
[19:44] <Navion> Danielcg25: You need use BootCamp to make the patitions. The one you're going to use for Ubuntu will be a "Windows" partition until it gets changed to ext4 when you do the formating in Ubuntu installation. There are Mac pages in the Ubuntu docs that are pretty helpful. You can see what will and won't work.
[19:44] <matthew_> how do i force resolution in xorg.conf google is not my friend today
[19:44] <Navion> Danielcg25: Get rEFIt to use for a boot manager
[19:44] <Danielcg25> Navion: Right now it's installing a fresh copy of Snow Leopard
[19:44] <victorhugo289> @gsp2009, that was awesome, haha, it works!
[19:45] <Navion> Danielcg25: Good start. ;)
[19:45] <victorhugo289> I can see everything now, thanks.
[19:45] <Danielcg25> Are there any GUI boot managers?
[19:45] <tv_> ikonia: can you tell me how to view tyhat?
[19:45] <gsp2009> victorhugo289: np
[19:45] <ikonia> tv_: open it in a text editor
[19:45] <ActionParsnip> Danielcg25: grub has a gui, just hold shift at boot and you'll see it
[19:46] <gsp2009> Bruce_Wayne: not sure. I don't really know much about subtitle files. Sorry.
[19:46] <Danielcg25> ActionParsnip: Thanks :)
[19:47] <gsp2009> Bruce_Wayne: check #openshot on freenode
[19:47] <matthew_> ikonia, what would i force the resolution to?
[19:47] <ikonia> matthew_: come on, what ever yout TV supports
[19:48] <matthew_> ikonia, ok
[19:48] <tuxx1> hello, how can I change ubuntu-mono-dark iconset's those arrow, stop, reload icons which appear in nautilus
[19:48] <noisewaterphd> Calling all disk experts (partitioning, formatting)
[19:48] <ikonia> noisewaterphd: calling people who can just ask a quesetion without pre-amble
[19:49]  * gsp2009 lolz
[19:49] <Navion> Danielcg25: rEFIt is a GUI boot manager
[19:49] <Danielcg25> Navion: Thanks :)
[19:50] <taher> This is a lot of peopple =)
[19:50] <Datte> hey guys i installed ubuntu with every apps i need it and i want to install ubuntu on a laptop but i dont wanto use "apt-get install" from internet how can i install apps on the laptop
[19:50] <Datte> ?
[19:50] <noisewaterphd> a friend came to me this morning in a mad panic. he has a laptop with 2 seperate internal drives. he was running win7, used wubi to install 10.10 to the second drive. ubuntu works great, but after the install his windows drive seems to have been partitioned somehow. nothing is on it
[19:51] <matthew_> ikonia, this look right for the xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/s91W71Xf
[19:51] <noisewaterphd> do you think the wubi installer partitioned his win drive? he really needs his docs and music off of it
[19:51] <ikonia> noisewaterphd: then it's fone
[19:51] <ikonia> gone
[19:51] <lolmatic> can anybody tell me how i get sound for old games which use /dev/dsp (oss or what?)
[19:51] <noisewaterphd> no way to recover any of it?
[19:52] <noisewaterphd> photorec or nothing could grab stuff?
[19:52] <ikonia> noisewaterphd: depends how it's gone, but as you don't know how you did it, I'd assume it's gone
[19:52] <ikonia> matthew_: that's using two displays at once, it's not avery compelte for both displays
[19:52] <tv_> ikonia : xorg log has references to vesa including "Module vesa: vendor="X.Org Foundation"" does this mean i am running the wrong driver?
[19:52] <ikonia> matthew_: certainly with a try
[19:52] <ikonia> tv_: looks that way yes
[19:52] <noisewaterphd> well i was initially skeptical that his laptop even really had 2 seperate drives in it. but sure enough, it does
[19:53] <ikonia> matthew_: hang on
[19:53] <matthew_> ikonia, kk
[19:53] <ikonia> matthew_: that's for nvidia, you're not using nvidia
[19:53] <ikonia> matthew_: twinview is nvidia
[19:53] <noisewaterphd> so why would wubi partition a drive he didnt even select?
[19:54] <noisewaterphd> or do you think he maybe made a mistake
[19:54] <matthew_> ikonia, could i change that to work with intel
[19:54] <tv_> ikonia: thanks, can anyone tell me how to get the driver for Intel 845G Integrated Graphics
[19:54] <ikonia> matthew_: you could modify it to not use the nvidia options, sure, it's a good starting base
[19:54] <OldParr> is skype on repos?
[19:54] <ikonia> tv_: you'll need to make an xorg.conf file, and force it to use the intel driver
[19:54] <ikonia> !skype | OldParr
[19:54] <matthew_> ikonia, kk
[19:54] <phyrrus9> @noisewaterphd wubi dosnt partition ... it makes a virtual disk file un /ubuntu
[19:55] <Danielcg25> Navion: Snow Leopard is finished installing. Should I update software before doing BootCamp?
[19:55] <Navion> Danielcg25: Yes, that's a good idea.
[19:55] <boairc> hi
[19:55] <ikonia> Danielcg25: the guys in ##macosx or ##apple can help you with mac support
[19:55] <phyrrus9> @Danialcg25 yes
[19:55] <tv_> ikonia: that sounds over my head, can you direct me to a tutorial?
[19:56] <ikonia> tv_: I'm not aware of one
[19:56] <Danielcg25> ikonia: I'm installing Ubuntu on a Mac, so I didn't know which room to go to
[19:56] <boairc> guys, i am trying to setup ubuntu with 3 monitors
[19:56] <ikonia> Danielcg25: ##apple for the mac/bootstuff/macos stuff
[19:56] <boairc> xinerama worked but i get no compiz
[19:56] <Navion> ikonia: But they don't know zip about Ubuntu which is where Danielcg25 is going with this thread.
[19:56] <ikonia> Navion: they do, and he's not using ubuntu yet
[19:57] <ikonia> Navion: this is mac stuff, they can set that up for him
[19:57] <boairc> been reading that xinerama is not compatible with compiz. is that so?
[19:57] <ikonia> boairc: a lot of cards can't do 3d support with xinerama which causes compiz problems
[19:57] <Navion> Danielcg25: OK, Well, I wasn't getting any help from them 2 weeks ago when I struggled through this.
[19:57] <matthew_> ikonia, crashed my self
[19:58] <Danielcg25> Navion: It's checking for new software
[19:58] <Navion> Danielcg25: Good...
[19:58] <boairc> ikonia: i have nvidia 8600 and 8400
[19:58] <ikonia> boairc: so ?
[19:58] <phyrrus9> hey does anybody know how to make my battery last even longer ??? i have about 7.5hrs on ubuntu 10.10 fluxbox
[19:59] <ikonia> phyrrus9: thats pretty good for a 9cell battery on any device,
[19:59] <Ladynikon> phyrrus9: command line
[19:59] <Danielcg25> I have 600 MBs of updates to download, and I have a 60kB/s connection.
[19:59] <Danielcg25> I'll be back when it's done ;$
[19:59] <Logan_> !away > N3M35I5_away
[19:59] <phyrrus9> adynikon: i do use the command line for everything
[19:59] <boairc> ikonia: so can you point me in the right direction to get this setup?
[19:59] <ikonia> boairc: setup with what ?
[19:59] <phyrrus9> and i have a 12-cell battery
[20:00] <ikonia> phyrrus9: still pretty good
[20:00] <boairc> to setup my 3 monitors so i have 3D acceleration on them and so the GUI doesn't have bad performance
[20:00] <ikonia> boairc: how many cards are you using ?
[20:00] <boairc> right now i can see the windows being redrawn when i drag them around
[20:00] <boairc> 2 cards, both nvidia
[20:00] <dasboot> 2 dragons
[20:01] <dasboot> i want 2
[20:01] <ikonia> boairc: ok, so you can't use twinview as that is limited to 1 card only
[20:01] <phyrrus9> ikonika ... whats your battlife?
[20:01] <boairc> ikonia: yes. i need for 3 monitors
[20:01] <matthew_> ikonia, you know any thing about xrandr could that fix my probleM?
[20:01] <ikonia> boairc: your options are limited, I'd suggest looking at the open source drivers,
[20:02] <ikonia> matthew_: sure, but I've told you what you need to do
[20:02] <boairc> open source drivers don't have 3D accel
[20:02] <ikonia> boairc: then your options are limited to almost zero
[20:02] <matthew_> ikonia, force my resolution in org.conf got it
[20:02] <dasboot> they suck ass!
[20:02] <dasboot> assssssssssssssss
[20:02] <ikonia> dasboot: stop it
[20:02] <boairc> damn
[20:02] <boairc> so i guess i'll go back to windows
[20:02] <boairc> :(
[20:02] <ikonia> boairc: if you want
[20:03] <boairc> i just wasted an entire day
[20:03] <dasboot> i'll go back to windows with you, boairc
[20:03] <boairc> well, linux is unusable to me
[20:03] <ikonia> dasboot: add value to a conversation, ot don't speak
[20:03] <boairc> if this doesn't work
[20:03] <spidy> yo
[20:03] <spidy> hows the beta?!
[20:03] <spidy> :)
[20:03] <dasboot> ikonia, blow me you fucking jew. stop acting like a douche bag.
[20:03] <ikonia> !natty | spidy
[20:03] <spidy> heh
[20:04] <spidy> sounds interesting
[20:04] <DingGGu_> ¿ÖÅ±ÇØ¿ä!
[20:04] <spidy> (:
[20:04] <ikonia> !natty | sphenxes
[20:04] <boairc> why isn't 3+ monitor support in linux? i mean this is a shock for me
[20:04] <ikonia> boairc: it is supported, just not with your cards
[20:05] <boairc> ikonia: with what cards is it supported?
[20:05] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line?
[20:05] <ikonia> boairc: talk to nvidia.com and ask them why their drivers don't support 3d acceleration split across mutliple cards
[20:06] <gonzalo> hello, how can i install firefox 4 in ubuntu? Thank you!
[20:07] <Starminn> !ff4
[20:07] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category on the panel?
[20:07] <gonzalo> Thank you! Do I have to remove Firefox 3.6 first?
[20:07] <Navion> matthew_: Did you have to make an xorg.conf file? I don't find one on my system.
[20:08] <lolmatic> can anyone tell me how i get sound in old games which use /dev/dsp (OSS)?
[20:08] <zelrik> hi
[20:08] <phyrrus9> hello
[20:08] <zelrik> I have a question on reading dvds with ubuntu
[20:08] <phyrrus9> zelrik what
[20:09] <zelrik> When I read one of my dvds, the screen is not filling the actual screen
[20:09] <Starminn> gonzalo: Actually, in Firefox, just update it from within Firefox itself
[20:09] <matthew_> Navion, im not sure but according to this guide i think it mine is stored here /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-wacom.conf
[20:09] <phyrrus9> zelrik what application??
[20:09] <matthew_> Navion, not sure though
[20:09] <Memphizzz> how can i remove the "About Gnome" item from the "System" category on the panel?
[20:09] <zelrik> phyrrus9: mplayer and vlc
[20:09] <phyrrus9> did you check to see if it supports your resolution?
[20:09] <ikonia> matthew_: where did I tell you the file was stored
[20:09] <zelrik> I tried poking around with the settings
[20:09] <Navion> matthew_: Thanks... This is a real pain! :(
[20:09] <gonzalo> Starminn: how do I update firefox from there?
[20:10] <addi> hey guys, is there a proper download manager for Ubuntu? Something that supports adding site passwords for sites like Rapidshare for auto download??
[20:10] <phyrrus9> zelrik ... does it not fill the little black space ... or your screen?
[20:10] <howie_chen> hello
[20:10] <matthew_> Navion, i dont think thats it and yes it is
[20:10] <zelrik> phyrrus9: it doesnt fill the screen at all
[20:10] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:11] <Starminn> gonzalo: Is it not in Tools or something?
[20:11] <matthew_> ikonia, /usr/share/X11 ?
[20:11] <phyrrus9> zelrik ... can you show me an image?
[20:11] <zelrik> phyrrus9: there is a fairly large black space all aroudn
[20:11] <ikonia> matthew_: no,
[20:11] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:11] <Navion> matthew_: Those look like def files for input devices.
[20:11] <phyrrus9> zelrik ... check to make sure +zoomout isnt in there somewhere .... maybe it just zommed ... zoom in
[20:11] <Jon--> Sorry I did not mean to double ask.
[20:11] <ikonia> matthew_: /etc/X11 and the file is called xorg.conf - write it down, I won't tell you it again
[20:12] <jed_> hi there everyone
[20:12] <gonzalo> Starminn: Sadly, no. In "Edit-> Preferences" there is an update tab but t only says Addons and Search Engines, not Firefox
[20:12] <ge0rg3__> hello ubuntu ppl
[20:12] <Navion> ikonia: It's not there man!
[20:12] <ikonia> Navion: you have to make it
[20:13] <Navion> ikonia: and the magic incatation is...
[20:13] <matthew_> ikonia, k i had it wrote down but i forgot to save and i typed something in the terminall that for some reason forced me to log out
[20:13] <Starminn> gonzalo: In the Ubuntu Software Center, when you search Firefox, all the way at the bottom what version does it say it is?
[20:13] <Navion> incantation that is.
[20:13] <ge0rg3__> in tinychat i managed to make my webcam work, but not the microphone
[20:13] <zelrik> phyrrus9: i cant zoom in, ok let me upload the file
[20:13] <ikonia> Navion: you open a text editor and type the options you want into it
[20:13] <ge0rg3__> any advice? n.n
[20:13] <ge0rg3__> my pc is HP-Mini 210
[20:14] <gonzalo> Starminn: it says 3.6.16+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.10.10.1
[20:15] <noisewaterphd> ikonia: photorec seems to be taking care of it no problem
[20:15] <Starminn> gonzalo: Okay. So just add the ppa and it will likely auto-update.
[20:16] <Starminn> gonzalo: That's what it did for me IIRC. I threw the ppa in and it replaced old Firefox.
[20:16] <gonzalo> Starminn: ok, I'll try now... thanks!
[20:16] <ssfdre38> what would be a reason why an apache2 mod cant be loaded when its in the mods-available folder
[20:16] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:17] <Starminn> ssfdre38: Have yout ried in #httpd? (also #apache -- same one)
[20:17] <ssfdre38> im in there now asking
[20:18] <Heliodor> Im stuck in trying to configue a samba-share, i can browse the file-share but it does not ask for a login, so i cannot write
[20:18] <esco> hi, im using 11.04 alpha 3 and i want to upgrade to the beta 1, can i do this through the terminal, or do i need to download an iso and install it that way?
[20:19] <Logan_> !natty | esco
[20:19] <esco> thanks Logan_
[20:19] <Logan_> esco: You're welcome.
[20:19] <matthew_> ikonia,  x- configure wont work i cant figure out how to create it
[20:19] <Number_6> @esco, in terminal type sudo update-manager -d
[20:21] <tv_> ikonia; i dont have a x.org.conf file that i can find.  i do have etc/x11/efault-display-manager
[20:21] <Jon--> How can I extract the window role of gnome-terminal from the command-line? Perhaps xprop?
[20:22] <iceroot> Jon--: what is a window role?
[20:22] <gonzalo> Starminn: It worked! Thanks a lot!
[20:23] <matthew_> how do i create a xorg.conf so i can fore my tv outs screen resolution
[20:23] <Jon--> iceroot, man gnome-terminal.   gnome-terminal --role somerole
[20:23] <Jon--> I need to uniquely identify a specific terminal
[20:23] <ikonia> tv_: the file is called xrg.conf for the LAST time, and for the last time you have to MAKE ONE
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # C  [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
[20:24] <Jon--> A friend suggested that I append title changes to existing title and have a unique string I can use with wmctrl. That may work.
[20:24] <iceroot> Jon--: the manual doesnt tell me what a window role is, just how to set it
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> HELP!
[20:24] <addi> any proper download manager for Ubuntu?
[20:24] <Jon--> iceroot, It doesn't do anything. It's supposed to be used as a property you can make unique I guess.
[20:24] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: not really helpful to show "HELP!"
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> # C  [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
[20:24] <Jon--> to identify specific instances by the role
[20:24] <SnowyCloud> any better?
[20:24] <Starminn> gonzalo: Awesome!
[20:24] <iceroot> Jon--: hm, for that you use the pid
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: that means totally nothing,
[20:25] <Jon--> I could but then
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: what's the problem, what are you trying to do, what's the error, what version of ubuntu
[20:25] <Andrew131> cd /join #symfony
[20:25] <Jon--> how do I uniquely identify one instance of gnome-terminal over another?
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # A fatal error has been detected by the Java Runtime Environment:
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> #
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> #  SIGSEGV (0xb) at pc=0xb75f6fb6, pid=2108, tid=3003087728
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> #
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # JRE version: 6.0_24-b07
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # Java VM: Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (19.1-b02 mixed mode, sharing linux-x86 )
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # Problematic frame:
[20:25] <FloodBot3> SnowyCloud: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:25] <SnowyCloud> # C  [libc.so.6+0x75fb6]
[20:25] <Jon--> I want a script that says "move my scratchpad to my current workspace, or if none exist, create it. Ignore other terminals."
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: you've just ignored what I've said and pasted even more nonsense
[20:25] <ikonia> SnowyCloud: read what I'm asking you, and respond to the question
[20:26] <SnowyCloud> Minecraft - Java - Not Working.
[20:26] <SnowyCloud> libc error
[20:27] <matthew_> Navion, are u getting it cause i still cant figure out how to force me resolution or even find xorg.conf
[20:27] <Jon--> I want a script that says "move my scratchpad to my current workspace, or if none exist, create it. Ignore other terminals." This means I have to uniquely identify different instances of gnome-terminal. Ideas?
[20:28] <uberushaximus_> disco
[20:28] <ikonia> matthew_: the last time, you have to MAKE an xorg.conf
[20:28] <SnowyCloud> http://paste.ubuntu.com/592283/
[20:28] <ikonia> Jon--: please stop repeating the same question over and over, have you tried in ##bash ?
[20:28] <matthew_> ikonia, i know i have been trying to but i cant figure it out
[20:29] <Jon--> ikonia, bash gets mad at you when you ask off topic questions
[20:29] <ikonia> Jon--: asking how to script in bash is not offtopic
[20:29] <Navion> matthew_: The short answer is that xorg.conf doesn't exist. Use to be that it was required, now Xorg tries to auto configure but when it fails to figure it out it has only some ver restrictive defaults. You have to create an xorg.conf file by hand with all the entries you need with a text editor and save it to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.
[20:29] <Jon--> ikonia, tell them that, I almost got banned :P
[20:29] <Navion> matthew_: I'm looking for a suitable template now.
[20:30] <ikonia> Jon--: constantly asking the same question in here isn't going to get you far
[20:30] <matthew_> Navion, same
[20:30] <ikonia> Navion: you can generate a base file with xorg --configure (or -configure - I can't remember)
[20:31] <matthew_> Navion, i figured that out its the dang temple thats driving me nuts
[20:31] <Navion> ikonia: Thanks, I'll try that. It looks like I only really have to define the monitor resolutions.
[20:31] <matthew_> Navion, if you find one that works pass it along ill do the same please
[20:32] <Tigerplug292> hi, after I run nvidia-xconfig to generate a config and reboot... xserver doesn't start
[20:32] <Tigerplug292> :-(
[20:32] <Navion> matthew_: Will do.
[20:32] <Tigerplug292> untill I revert to the original xorg.conf - any suggestions?
[20:32] <Tavor> Anyone use Blender 3D? I have an issue of using hotkeys that require the Alt since using Alt and dragging cursor drags the window...
[20:33] <gsp2009> Tavor: http://www.blender.org/community/chat/
[20:33] <Tavor> Ok, thanks
[20:33] <gsp2009> np
[20:33] <ssfdre38> where are yhe error-logs at?
[20:34] <Kawohi> Hey guys, i'm new to ubuntu. why in terminal does it repeat computer name twice? name@name:~$
[20:34] <ikonia> Kawohi: username@hostname
[20:34] <piero> How much time canonical will provide security updates to maverick?
[20:34] <Starminn> !eol
[20:34] <Starminn> piero: First link
[20:34] <Kawohi> Oh alright
[20:35] <piero> thanks Starminn
[20:37] <matthew_> Navion, i dont think they thought of this happening when they removed it
[20:37] <piero> ual! Looks like there's someone using dapper yet! At least, the updates for server edition will keep until jun2011!
[20:37] <Navion> matthew_: Maybe but it's pretty common for new hardware to come out and not be in the search for auto configure.
[20:38] <matthew_> Navion, yeh
[20:38] <Navion> matthew_: Yea?
[20:38] <matthew_> Navion, your right
[20:38] <Navion> Where did you find the executable xorg?
[20:39] <Jon--> I want a script that says "move my scratchpad to my current workspace, or if none exist, create it. Ignore other terminals." This means I have to uniquely identify different instances of gnome-terminal. Ideas?
[20:39] <Navion> matthew_: Where did you find the executable xorg?
[20:39] <doc-donkey> hey!
[20:39] <matthew_> Navion, i think i lost the site
[20:39] <pablo_> hi, how can i change the bash prompt, and it shows only the name of the current directory, not the full path (like fedora)?
[20:40] <smw> Jon--, why do you need to identify instances of gnome-terminal?
[20:40] <doc-donkey> where should i ask random questions not involving ubuntu ?
[20:40] <smw> doc-donkey, if they are semi on topic, you can ask here
[20:40] <Jon--> I want one that I move around to different workspaces, while others (ie running irssi, whatever) don't respond to that.
[20:40] <Starminn> !ot | doc-donkey
[20:40] <Guest5612> anyone using the beta
[20:40] <Jon--> and stay on some fixed workspace, whatever
[20:41] <Starminn> !natty | Guest5612
[20:41] <Starminn> Jon--: you want it to move to the workpsace you're on, no matter which one?
[20:41] <doc-donkey> rhanks smw
[20:41] <Guest5612> I have a question about it
[20:41] <doc-donkey> ill go in the offtopic channel
[20:41] <Starminn> Guest5612: So ask it in #ubuntu+1
[20:41] <patrik> How do i acess the network manager in openbox?
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, you need to change the PS1 env variable
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, I do not know how to do it specifically, but you can google it.
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, you can find how ubuntu does it in ~/.bashrc
[20:42] <pablo_> ok thankyou smw
[20:42] <smw> pablo_, if you have a fedora install, you can copy its PS1
[20:42] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[20:43] <mad1> ll
[20:43] <mad1> mad are my initials . im not really mad
[20:43] <matthew_> Navion, according to this site im on we should be able to creat xorg.conf by using x-configure but its not working for me
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> What's the equivalent of the hosts file in windows?
[20:44] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[20:44] <ikonia> Macstheyjustsuck: ##windows is the channel for windows support
[20:44] <Navion> matthew_: it's Xorg -configure (Note the upper case X) but you can't do it with X11 running.
[20:44] <erUSUL_> Macstheyjustsuck: /etc/hosts ( actually windows copied it frm unix )
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> It's not windows
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> ikonia:
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> I was asking for the equivalent
[20:44] <Macstheyjustsuck> erUSUL_: Thanks
[20:44] <FloodBot3> Macstheyjustsuck: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <edbian> Macstheyjustsuck: /etc/hosts
[20:44] <matthew_> Navion, so i guess im going to boot into recovery mode and try it
[20:45] <Navion> matthew_: I think you should be able to "stop" X11 with rebooting.
[20:45] <matthew_> Navion, kk
[20:46] <Noor_egy> رقم %
[20:46] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[20:47] <Jon--> Starminn, yep
[20:47] <Eduard> Hello, could somebody please help me?
[20:47] <edbian> !ask Eduard
[20:47] <edbian> !ask | Eduard
[20:47] <Eduard> I can no longer access my desktop area in Ubuntu 10.10
[20:47] <matthew_> Navion, im trying to stop it but its saying its a unknow job
[20:47] <cfedde> 4
[20:48] <Number_6> !natty
[20:48] <mad1> So with bunt 10.10   HP printers are pref. printer? true/false
[20:48] <Eduard> I mean, wallpaper shows up, but i cannot access my desktop with mouse clicking, it does not work
[20:48] <Eduard> any ideas?
[20:48] <edbian> Eduard: What do you mean you can't access it
[20:48] <edbian> Eduard: What do you mean you can't access it?
[20:48] <edbian> Eduard: So the mouse works but nothing is clickable?  What if your press alt + F2
[20:49] <Eduard> edbian: run application menu shows up
[20:49] <edbian> Eduard: and it works?
[20:49] <Eduard> edbian: yes
[20:50] <edbian> Eduard: Can you click on things in an application that you've launch.  e.g. firefox ?
[20:50] <Eduard> edbian: gnome panels, application launching - everything works, except for mouse clicking in desktop area
[20:50] <Eduard> sec
[20:50] <edbian> Eduard: Do you have icons on the desktop?
[20:50] <pylix> the Ubuntu article's recommended option never works for me it always outputs some error. trying to revover ubuntu after windows install
[20:50] <matthew_> Navion, im going into recovery mode ill be back when im dont
[20:50] <pylix> ##easybcd
[20:50] <matthew_> Navion, *done
[20:50] <Navion> matthew_: BCNU
[20:50] <Navion> That was fast.
[20:51] <matthew_> Navion, ncnu?
[20:51] <Eduard> edbian: in firefox i can only access address bar and tab switching
[20:51] <Navion> Be See'n You.
[20:51] <matthew_> Navion, no im not done
[20:51] <Eduard> the top menu with File and etc entries does not work
[20:51] <matthew_> Navion, ill brb
[20:51] <edbian> Eduard: but not the menus?
[20:51] <edbian> Eduard: open a terminal.  type this:  'nautilus'
[20:51] <edbian> Eduard: without quotes
[20:52] <Eduard> edbian: it opened up nautilus in my users home folder
[20:52] <edbian> Eduard: does clicking now work?
[20:53] <Eduard> edbian: Yes, it does. Even the File, Edit... menu works
[20:54] <edbian> Eduard: So for some reason nautilus is crashing when the system boots and you have to restart it again to get it working.  Nautilus is the file manager but it also controls things like icons on the desktop, menus, etc
[20:54] <edbian> Eduard: Try re-installing nautilus.  sudo apt-get install --reinstall nautilus
[20:54] <rooly> is there any reason for ld to not look in /usr/local/lib by default in a wubi install?
[20:54] <Eduard> edbian: ok
[20:54] <edbian> Eduard: Can you pastebin the output of dmesg for me?
[20:55] <os4> hi all i want to install hydragtk in ubuntu 10.10
[20:55] <Apollonovich> If I want to build/install a newer version of a package than is included in my distro from sources, is there a straightforward way of identifying it as a later/successor of the package in question?
[20:55] <wojtek-irl> hello lads
[20:55] <ikonia> Apollonovich: no
[20:55] <Eduard> edbian: http://paste.ubuntu.com/592300/
[20:56] <Apollonovich> that sucks. ikonia: could I grab the source package, and then drop in the replacement sources?  or are the build scripts liable to break?
[20:56] <ikonia> Apollonovich: no, you need to know what you're doing, make sure the deps match/compatible, understand how the packages are linked etc etc
[20:57] <Apollonovich> well, assuming the alternative is just building it and clobbering the existing installation, this would seem preferablle.
[20:57] <os4> someone know how to install  hydragtk ??????
[20:57] <Eduard> edbian: nautilus reinstalled, i should reboot my pc now?
[20:57] <ikonia> Apollonovich: what do you want to install
[20:57] <ikonia> os4: what does the install instructions say to do
[20:58] <Jacob_Kay> hey people
[20:58] <edbian> Eduard: I don't see anything about nautilus crashing in dmesg fyi.  Yeah try restarting.  If this doesn't work I have another idea.
[20:58] <os4> hydragtk
[20:58] <Eduard> edbian: ok
[20:58] <ikonia> os4: what does the install instructions say to do
[20:58] <Apollonovich> r-cran-rcpp -- the updated version of the R language c++ interface (the cran apt repositories, which I'm using to keep the rest of my R install up to date, don't include a buidl for this, so whereas the rest of my R install is bleeding edge, I'm stuck on the lucid version of this one)
[20:58] <os4> its a aplication of bruteforce
[20:59] <Superstar> Hello guys. Does anyone know how to set up an ICON 225 USB Mobile Internet Dongle on Ubuntu 10.10? I'm not interested in the internet part, I would just like to receive SMS's (like I could in Windows)
[20:59] <matthew_> Navion, ok imback
[20:59] <ikonia> os4: listen to the question, I'm not asking what it does, or it's name, I'm asking what do the INSTRUCTIONS say on how to install it
[20:59] <Jacob_Kay> I try and install ubuntu, but the installer and gparted don't see my windows install. I believe its to do with my motherboard having a UEFI BIOS and windows installing a GPT partition table instead of MBR
[20:59] <ikonia> Apollonovich: I'm not familier with the application toolset so can't give solid advice, sorry
[21:00] <os4> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h6Es_VSZYbg
[21:00] <Eduard> edbian: no luck
[21:00] <Jacob_Kay> It shows my hard drive as unallocated
[21:00] <vooze> Hey, i just reinstalled.. i used to have a program where i could just type like "last" and it would suggest last.fm...
[21:00] <vooze> Any ideas what its called?
[21:00] <edbian> Eduard: starting nautilus in a terminal fixes the problem?
[21:00] <DingGGu_> ¿ÖÅ±ÇØ¿ä!
[21:00] <mik_> Semi-noob with file/music management question...
[21:01] <Eduard> edbian: no
[21:01] <edbian> mik_: what is it? :D
[21:01] <Apollonovich> ikonia: that's fair.  Assuming I know what i'm doing in terms of building this particular package, should the debian scripts in the source package be fairly ready to go?  Or what commands to i need to run to tell dpkg to compile/package/install?
[21:01] <edbian> Eduard: Really?  It worked before and now it doesn't work?
[21:01] <pylix> can i use grub legacy with ubuntu 10.10
[21:01] <ikonia> Apollonovich: it all depends on what's changed
[21:01] <ikonia> pylix: yes
[21:01] <pylix> would grub2 cause a conflict
[21:02] <matthew_> Navion, ok i created xorg.cong
[21:02] <ikonia> pylix: with what ?
[21:02] <Eduard> edbian: uhm, when did it work? I still cant do stupid clicking...
[21:02] <pylix> grub legacy
[21:02] <matthew_> Navion, xorg.conf
[21:02] <mik_> edbian:  Through years of stupid choices of jukebox software, my collection is a mess.  some times up to 5 copies of the same song, (I used songbird once... *shudder*)  So, is there anything other than hand sorting the files that will make it easier?
[21:02] <ikonia> pylix: you can only have one boot loader installed at a time
[21:02] <edbian> Eduard: I thought you said that if you do alt - F2 and run nautilus that clicking on menus and such works agian.
[21:02] <pylix> ikonia: windows killed my ubuntu boot
[21:02] <Eduard> edbian: uhm, no, You misunderstood me.
[21:02] <Jacob_Kay> any idea to my problem?
[21:02] <matthew_> Navion, go into recovery more type X- configure
[21:02] <pylix> does that mean grub is dead?
[21:03] <edbian> Eduard: Does nautilus give errors if you run it in the terminal?
[21:03] <Jacob_Kay> pylix windows installed its own bootloader over grub
[21:03] <ikonia> pylix: no
[21:03] <matthew_> Navion, reboot then in a terminal type sudo cp /root/xorg.conf.new /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[21:03] <ikonia> !grub2 > pylix
[21:03] <matthew_> Navion,  and xorg.conf is right where it should be
[21:03] <Navion> matthew_: I'm modifying grub so that it gives  me the choice of going to recovery
[21:03] <edbian> mik_: I don't know of anything off the top of my head.  Certainly I don't think there is anything that removes duplicate files
[21:03] <Eduard> edbian: no, clean startup. Btw, i created a file in Desktop folder through nautilus, but it does not show up in my desktop on screen
[21:04] <matthew_> Navion, kk
[21:04] <matthew_> Navion, i got no clue where to go from here though
[21:04] <edbian> Eduard: start gconf-editor
[21:04] <Jacob_Kay> I try and install ubuntu, but the installer and gparted don't see my windows installation, it just shows my whole hard drive as unallocated.
[21:04] <pylix> that article rarely resolves my issue
[21:04] <mik_> edbian:  Yeah, that s kind of what I thought...  Havent found anything that can "selectively" remove files...
[21:04] <Eduard> edbian: started
[21:05] <White-Horse> how do i install sun java jre 6 for ubuntu 10.10 64 bit desktop ?
[21:05] <pylix> bb
[21:05] <edbian> mik_: Yeah sorry.  I know things like banshee will search through them all so maybe it doesn't matter?
[21:05] <inaxio> hello! i am having a problem with my hard drive.  my computer will not boot normally - it instead goes to initramfs.   it says it needs to go into recovery mode, but i cannot (as stated before).  i am currently using a live cd trying to fsck it, but it is somehow in use - but it is not mounted at all.  it is somehow in use, but i dont know what the problem is.   i can provide anything nessecary to help get this fixed
[21:05] <edbian> mik_: Is all the ID3 tag info correct?  Maybe there is a program that will sort them by id3 tag info
[21:05] <KindOne> White-Horse - http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html
[21:05] <matthew_> Navion, especially since i only see one monitory in xorg.conf
[21:05] <Navion> matthew_: I think we only have to change the monitor values to allow better resolution. If you want some feature of the graphics controller then you have define that too. There is an Xorg Wiki page that might help. I aven't gotten that far yet.
[21:06] <KindOne> White-Horse - that might be what you are looking for
[21:06] <edbian> Eduard: / -> apps -> nautilus -> desktop
[21:06] <ech0s7> hi all
[21:06] <White-Horse> thank you KindOne
[21:06] <matthew_> Navion, ok
[21:06] <ech0s7> i have this problem: gdm always turn the LCD to the highest brightness level, only after login to gnome desktop, it tune to the brightness I set, anyone know how to fix ?
[21:06] <Eduard> edbian: done
[21:07] <matthew_> Navion,  the thing is though i see monitory one which im assuming is my laptop screen shouldent there be another one for the tv out
[21:07] <edbian> Eduard: Are those boxes ticked?  (show compute icon, show mounted media, etc etc)
[21:07] <Eduard> edbian: only the check box near volume_visible is ticked
[21:07] <Jacob_Kay> ubuntu installer and gparted don't see any of my partitions, it just shows my hard drive as unallocated. Using a motherboard with UEFI BIOS and I believe the hard drive is using GPT and not MBR, and idea's?
[21:07] <Eduard> *volumes_visible
[21:08] <edbian> Eduard: Do you want the other ones ticked? (tick what you want)
[21:08] <mik_> edbian:  Yeah, thats worth a try...  I suppose this is what you get when you just D/L whatever...  *shrug*
[21:08] <Yexo> I use ubuntu 11.04 with the gnome 3 ppa. After the latest updates I get an error message after login: "Could no update ICEauthority file /home/user/.ICEauthority". I've already checked and the file is owned by myself and rights are 600
[21:08] <edbian> The go to nautilus -> preferences and find 'show desktop' and make sure that is ticked
[21:08] <Navion> matthew_: Not there yet. I think you have to do something with the controler if you need dual screen.
[21:08] <Yexo> any ideas on where the problem could be?
[21:08] <Noor_egy> hello : i have propleme that when i open my aplication menu and open the app i want the menu didnt desapear and stilled on front of the programmes so i cant see parts of my programme
[21:08] <ikonia> Yexo: totally not supported 11.04 is beta, PPA is not ubuntu packaged
[21:08] <Eduard> edbian: ticked computer_icon_visible(nothing happened) :(. What next?
[21:08] <edbian> mik_: Does it really matter if the folders are well organized?  Most music players walk the tree then make their own database of the files and their paths to play them.
[21:08] <matthew_> Navion, kk ill wait for u to get to where i am
[21:09] <Yexo> ikonia: I understand, still, is there another place I could as kfor some help?
[21:09] <edbian> Eduard: preferences folder (in the tree view on the left) is
[21:09] <edbian> Eduard: is 'show desktop' ticked?
[21:09] <ikonia> Yexo: you're using unsupported software and beta software, pretty bad combo to expect people to help you with
[21:09] <Apollonovich> ikonia: if I know that natty has the version of this package I want, can I fetch the source .deb for it, and then build/install that?
[21:09] <ech0s7> i have this problem: gdm always turn the LCD to the highest brightness level, only after login to gnome desktop, it tune to the brightness I set, anyone know how to fix ?
[21:09] <ikonia> Apollonovich: you could try, again the deps will be different so may not resolve
[21:10] <Eduard> edbian: Yes, it is
[21:10] <Apollonovich> right.  is there a way to specify the later distro in apt-get, or am I best off grabbing the source .deb from the web?
[21:10] <edbian> Eduard: ok.  close that.  killall nautilus   and then nautilus in  terminal
[21:11] <liminal> whats the difference between sudo -s & sudo - i
[21:11] <Magnusson_TB> anyone have any ideas why my mouse randomly won't click things? like the kicker menu for example
[21:11] <miles__> do Daemon tools work on linux or is there some alt to it.
[21:11] <Eduard> edbian: omg, it works. How do i make it permanent? :D
[21:11] <russjr08> miles__, are you trying to mount an iso file?
[21:11] <inaxio> i cannot fsck/mount/umount a device from my livecd.  when i boot i only boot into initramfs.  can someone please help me with this
[21:11] <russjr08> you don't need daemon tools for that if you use GNOME
[21:12] <miles__> no it's some sort of lemme check
[21:12] <edbian> Eduard: maybe before it didn't work cause we didn't killall nautilus first...  Restart again.  See what happens
[21:12] <miles__> .BWT.BWI
[21:12] <Eduard> edbian: ok
[21:12] <edbian> Eduard: and don't be so surprised.  I do know what I'm doing ya know :)
[21:12] <miles__> Weirdest file type i've seen
[21:12] <Eduard> :D
[21:12] <russjr08> oh, then i dont know
[21:12] <Magnusson_TB> miles__> bacon with tomato?
[21:13] <ikonia> Magnusson_TB: ?
[21:13] <miles__> Magnusson_Tb bacon with tomato, but with inside....i dunno!
[21:13] <Magnusson_TB> lol
[21:13] <matthew_> Navion, ill brb im going to get some Tylenol this type of stuff gives me a head ace
[21:13] <Magnusson_TB> ikonia> was joking about miles__ 's file type
[21:14] <miles__> Russjr08: Its a .BWT.BWI file. daemon tools can aparently use them.
[21:14] <Eduard> edbian: You won't believe me... Gnome panels are now missing, but icons are present on the desktop
[21:14] <edbian> Eduard: I believe you.  haha,  in a term: nohup gnome-panel &
[21:15] <edbian> Eduard: that starts the panels in such a way that you can still use the terminal and if you close the terminal the panels don't close
[21:15] <edbian> Eduard: clicking works and all that?  (I'm thinking that some settings set somewhere are causing things to crash at boot time.
[21:15] <codex> I have installed php through synaptic manager but I saw it is php 5.3.3 which is not stable version according to official php.net webste and it has critical issues
[21:15] <codex> :S
[21:16] <codex> why synaptic installed this version, should I upgrade to php  5.3.6 and how?
[21:16] <rww> codex: Ubuntu doesn't upgrade to new major releases of software. It backports security and other critical fixes to the existing versions instead, so you should be fine with 5.3.3.
[21:16] <rww> !latest
[21:16] <edbian> codex: I would just wait for 11.04
[21:16] <Eduard> edbian: well, missing gnome panels are quite common after clean ubuntu install, so i already fixed it. Now i will try to restart again and see if everything works
[21:17] <edbian> Eduard: How did you fix it?
[21:17] <Eduard> edbian: http://www.watchingthenet.com/restore-panels-in-ubuntu-back-to-their-default-settings.html
[21:17] <edbian> Eduard: ok, let's try a restart.  Is this a clean install?
[21:17] <Eduard> edbian: yes, reinstalled today
[21:18] <Eduard> edbian: sec, going for restart now
[21:18] <edbian> alright, see you soon
[21:18] <codex> hm
[21:19] <matthew_> Navion, ok im back hows it coming?
[21:19] <codex> rww, but php 5.3.6 has fixes for critical issues oh older php 5.3 versions
[21:19] <codex> so you say fixes of php 5.3.6 are implemented in synaptic php 5.3.3 version?
[21:19] <G_Val> hi guys
[21:19] <tsnovo> someone know to ubuntu some program iqual guitar pro?
[21:19] <lizard_2k1> good night
[21:19] <edbian> codex: I believe security fixes are yes
[21:19] <miles__> do Daemon tools work on linux or is there some alt to it. I'm trying to  mount some .bwt.bwi files that aparently work with it.
[21:20] <ech0s7> i have this problem: gdm always turn the LCD to the highest brightness level, only after login to gnome desktop, it tune to the brightness I set, anyone know how to fix ?
[21:20] <lizard_2k1> help me please fix broken pakages
[21:20] <rww> codex: correct
[21:20] <Eduard> edbian: so far everything works after restart. Let's hope it stays this way. Thank you for your help :)
[21:21] <edbian> Eduard: sure.  :)
[21:21] <edbian> Eduard: Not sure if it was the restart or what.
[21:21] <miles__> I'm trying to get haloCE to work, but i keep getting errors even when using playonlinux
[21:21] <Eduard> edbian: god knows... it started working after pkill
[21:22] <edbian> Eduard: ok good.
[21:22] <G_Val> i have a partition issue when i use fisk it works great but if try t use gparted or livecd partition  system i can't see them Any idea about ?
[21:22] <Riiick> ola pessoall....................
[21:22] <edbian> lizard_2k1: sudo aptitude update   (what are the errors?)
[21:22] <matthew_> ahh xorg.conf is a pain to work with
[21:22] <Riiick> oi
[21:22] <lizard_2k1> no
[21:22] <Riiick> oliii
[21:22] <lizard_2k1> but i can not reinstall gnome
[21:22] <Riiick> alguem br ??
[21:23] <Riiick> .................................................
[21:23] <Riiick> alguem br ?
[21:23] <rww> !br
[21:23] <matthew_> why hasent some one made a gui for forcing your resolution in xorg.conf?
[21:23] <graingert> matthew_, becuase that's what xrandr is for
[21:23] <Riiick> !br
[21:24] <matthew_> graingert, how do i use that?
[21:24] <th0r> matthew_: good question...why haven't you?
[21:24] <codex> I am still confused you said I am fine with php 5.3.3 but oh official php.net website it says latest version of php - php 5.3.6 have some fies that are security related too
[21:24] <matthew_> th0r, if i knew how i would
[21:24] <gonzalo> hello, how can i remove OpenOffice from my Ubuntu? Thank you!
[21:25] <G_Val>  i have a partition issue when i use fisk it works great but if try to use gparted or livecd partition utility i can't see them Any idea about ?
[21:26] <rww> codex: http://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/main/p/php5/php5_5.3.3-1ubuntu9.3/changelog shows the version history of the php5 package in maverick-security. You'll note that the top ones are post-release security updates. These address the "critical issues" the PHP5 site mentions.
[21:27] <edbian> gonzalo: open synaptic. search 'openoffice' remove the packages
[21:27] <codex> rww ok
[21:27] <codex> thanks
[21:27] <rww> codex: basically, Ubuntu takes the fixes that were applied to PHP 5.3.6 to fix issues, backports them to PHP 5.3.3, and releases them in maverick-security. The version of PHP 5.3.3 in maverick-security thus has those issues fixed, just like PHP 5.3.6, but does not have the non-security-related changes that PHP 5.3.6 has.
[21:27] <G_Val> nobody can help me ?
[21:28] <Chris_H> Hi, I have a CD with ubuntu. How do I recognize which version I am having?
[21:28] <codex> rww thanks alot!
[21:29] <edbian> Chris_H: you have ubuntu installed or... ?
[21:29] <hihihi100> how do I install a launchpad package?
[21:29] <Chris_H> edbian: no, I  just have the CD. (downloaded it, not sure when)
[21:29] <Chris_H> and I do not want to install it unless its a new version
[21:29] <Axlin> Chris_H: cat /etc/issue
[21:30] <edbian> Chris_H: you have windows installed?
[21:30] <Chris_H> edbian: yes
[21:30] <Axlin> oh, sorry. i was assuming you had booted off the cd already
[21:30] <ubuntu_> I don't know how to say this but someone is messing with my whole system
[21:30] <koffeehaus> hey, does anyone know a good article about the difference between Debian's APT and Fedora's YUM. I'm applying for Masters in Digital Asset Management, so I need to get this sorted.
[21:30] <edbian> Chris_H: Put it in the drive.  Look around at it using windows.  I'm sure it'll say somewhere
[21:31] <dvp> I try to install again but it's worthless.
[21:31] <Chris_H> edbian: ok
[21:32] <edbian> Chris_H: If you boot it you can look in System -> About and it will say the version
[21:32] <rww> Chris_H: There's a folder beginning with a dot on the \ of the CD that has a file with the version info in it. I forget what it's called though :\
[21:33] <liminal> whats the difference between sudo -s & sudo -i
[21:33] <liminal> in practical terms
[21:33] <Axlin> Chris_H: on the disk, it's in /.disk/info
[21:34] <rww> liminal: sudo -i simulates a login-shell, which means that login-specific files like .profile or .login get read.
[21:34] <rww> liminal: see the section of man sudo that deals with -i.
[21:34] <gatorade> How do you flash the bios on an msi netbook running ubuntu 10.10?
[21:34] <koffeehaus> liminal try sudo -help
[21:34] <MBD123> Sorry if this is a stupid question, but can you boot Ubuntu from a DVD?
[21:34] <koffeehaus> MDB123 - if your pc supports DVS's - then yes
[21:35] <Chris_H> rww, Axlin: Thanks guys, I have found it (I never thought of checking hidden folders)
[21:35] <liminal> rww 'simulates' a login shell...?
[21:35] <liminal> when would i want to use -i
[21:35] <liminal> over -s
[21:35] <edbian> MBD123: sure
[21:35] <MBD123> Thanks, just checking
[21:35] <Kurdistan> hey guys do any body know if maverick support intel graphic card (integrated) pc to connect tv?
[21:35] <koffeehaus> DVD's, not DVS's, naturally
[21:36] <hihihi100> i need to update gnome-user-docs_2.91.90+git20110306ubuntu1, help please
[21:36] <rww> liminal: If you don't know what "simulate a login shell" means, you probably wouldn't want to use -i over -s
[21:36] <Kurdistan> I want to install maverick on friends laptop. so I dont know exactly name. but it is about 4 years old laptop.
[21:37] <edbian> Kurdistan: boot a live CD and find out for sure
[21:37] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - launch it in LiveCD and see if everything works
[21:37] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus my friend did only have wifi connection
[21:37] <itilious> has anyone here been able to successully add/edit route settings to allow VPN resources to ACTUALLY be useable?
[21:37] <liminal> rww :) i know what a shell is.. and i know what login means.. i don't know what you mean by simulation
[21:38] <Kurdistan> so I couldnt install any restricted drivers.
[21:38] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - usually wifi is supported
[21:38] <Sia-> Kurdistan Tikaye 10.04 dagre
[21:38] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - you have broadcom?
[21:38] <jstoone> Hi guys, I just tried to install 11.04 on my USB and it went good untill it failed.. and now it's kind of bricked.. I can see it in the disk utility and stuff but i can't mount it, or do anything. Any suggestions?
[21:39] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, it is my friends laptop and I am not there right now.
[21:39] <tsnovo> someone know to ubuntu some program iqual guitar pro?
[21:39] <Sia-> Kurdistan  Ok let me know, what kine of laptop model?
[21:39] <gartral> jstoone: format the udb stick and try again
[21:39] <smriti> hey guys
[21:39] <Sia-> hi
[21:39] <tsnovo> someone know some program iqual guitar pro to ubuntu ?
[21:39] <smriti> I have a problem with my microphone
[21:39] <smriti> ubuntu cant detect it
[21:39] <Kurdistan> Sia-, it is hp.
[21:39] <smriti> what do i do to find it ?
[21:39] <liminal> rww when would you use -s instead of using -i
[21:40] <Kurdistan> more info I can not get now
[21:40] <soreau> !info ardour | tsnovo:
[21:40] <jstoone> gartral, i can't do anything it says "No medium found"..
[21:40] <Sia-> Kurdistan Sorani yan Badini bninusin?
[21:40] <nplQED> Hello. I'm trying to install but on the "Who Are You?" part I can't seem to get the Forward button to be available. Any idea what I need to do?
[21:40] <gartral> jstoone: in Disk Utility?
[21:40] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - well, you need to check what kind of wifi drivers do you have. I forgot what is the command for it - you have to ask sm1 else. But if it is Broadcom go to this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx/
[21:40] <smriti> guys how do i find out what microphone driver do i need ?
[21:41] <matthew_> i am getting anoyed i see my computer on my tv its just that little bit of the screen that i cant see on my tv
[21:41] <jstoone> gartral: yep
[21:41] <gartral> jstoone: is this a sandisk Cruzer?
[21:41] <jstoone> gartral: no, it's a takeMS USB
[21:41] <Kurdistan> Sia-, is kurmanci (bahdini) kisa dikim.
[21:42] <koffeehaus> kurdistan: the easiest way to do this is to get a one time cabled connection and install everything. Follow the instruction son the "Installing STA drivers" paragraph
[21:42] <gartral> jstoone: OK, install both gparted and testdisk.. I have a trick up my sleeve
[21:42] <Sia-> Kurdistan ok my kurmanci isn't so good, did you ever tried before to use kurdish linux forums?
[21:42] <addi> Hey guys, trying to run an exe in Wine, but get the error that it is not marked as an executable. what should be done? (Linux noob here) :(
[21:42] <jstoone> gartral: sure, give me one sex
[21:42] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, the wifi is not any problem. I can one day install at my place. I want to know if intel have closed drivers in ubuntu.
[21:42] <jstoone> gartral: sec i mean ofc.
[21:43] <Kurdistan> like in nvidia I can twin-view to connect my laptop to tv
[21:43] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - they might, but they can be easily enabled
[21:43] <matthew_> Navion, did u ever get it?
[21:43] <Kurdistan> Sia-, I only know one kaka.
[21:44] <eamon> Intel have shitty shitty bum bum linux drivers
[21:44] <Navion> matthew_: NO, trying a different approach. <sigh>
[21:44] <jstoone> gartral: done, tell me something good ;)
[21:44] <rww> eamon: That's not appropriate for this channel.
[21:44] <koffeehaus> Kurdistan - in fact I find it that Intel PC's are generally easier to configure than AMD's
[21:44] <ikonia> eamon: control the langauge
[21:44] <eamon> ikonia: poop
[21:44] <matthew_> Navion, same i found a few applets that im trying out
[21:44] <DingGGu_> ¿ÖÅ±ÇØ¿ä!
[21:44] <gartral> jstoone: pull the USB stick, open gparted and plug the stick back in
[21:45] <tommis> well this is a nice channel
[21:45] <gartral> DingGGu_: what on earth language is that?
[21:45] <DingGGu_> È£Ãâ ÇÏ·Á¸é '!¾ÆÀÌÀ¯'¸¦ ÀÔ·Â ÇØÁÖ¼¼¿ä.
[21:45] <nplQED> Anyone know how to get past the "Who Are You?" part of the install? I have the whole thing filled out but it won't let me continue.
[21:45] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, okey next time I will try to take my intel cable so I can fined out if it is any closed driver for intel in ubuntu.
[21:45] <nplQED> I figure there must be some condition that I'm missing.
[21:45] <Kurdistan> laptop is 4 years old so.
[21:45] <matthew_> Navion, its just frustrating cause i see my desktop on my tv it just cuts off the edges
[21:45] <jstoone> gartral: is gparted a GUI app?
[21:45] <gartral> jstoone: yep
[21:46] <Kurdistan> koffeehaus, the funny thing the compiz effect works out of the box.
[21:46] <Navion> matthew_: Open Solaris worked on this but only because it made the wrong asumption about what the hardware is.
[21:46] <jstoone> gartral: wierd.. i tried "gparted &" and it won't load..
[21:46] <koffeehaus> nplQED - can't say for UBUNTU, but I've heard there are linuxMint editions where you can install the system without making a user entry.
[21:46] <e01> is it possible to install the default netbook edition homescreen to 11.04
[21:47] <e01> the homescreen* from the 10.04
[21:47] <gartral> jstoone: try 'screen gparted' the hit ctrl+a the tap d
[21:47] <gartral> then*
[21:47] <jstoone> gartral: It's loaded now, had to run as root
[21:47] <gartral> jstoone: ohh yea, i forget too mention that
[21:47] <nplQED> I don't really care if I have to make a user entry but it seems weird that no matter what I do, the Forward button remains grayed out.
[21:48] <meLon> None of you guys have League of Legend working under wine yet, do you ?
[21:48] <jstoone> gartral: now i opend it, and when it was loaded i plugged in the usb, next?
[21:49] <koffeehaus> nplQED - okay, a user entry has to to be in minuscule. maybe that's why? were you trying to type it with a cap?
[21:49] <gartral> jstoone: 2 sec, im installing it myself.. i've forgotten the interface
[21:49] <nplQED> koffehaus: that was it. thanks!
[21:49] <jstoone> gartral: sure take your time, thanks for helping btw. it's great!
[21:50] <gartral> jstoone: up in the right hand corner there's a drop-down menu with all your drives in it... check too see if your flashdrive is there
[21:50] <gartral> jstoone: np, i know how flashdrive breakage is annoying
[21:50] <randomness> hello. how can i rearrange icons icons in Unity launcher bar? been trying to drag and click it every way possible and can't just figure it out, driving me crazy :/
[21:51] <koffeehaus> nplQED- no probs mate
[21:51] <cavalier_prime> randomness, drag em to the right and you can rearrange
[21:51] <matthew_> Navion, on the program im using i set my monitors so the should look fine but when i apply it my tv stops working
[21:51] <jstoone> gartral: nope, no luck.. tried refreshing 1,2,3...4 times nothing ;) only my sda
[21:51] <randomness> ohh
[21:52] <randomness> some sort of 2nd click -> move, option wouldn't hurt
[21:52] <cavalier_prime> yup
[21:52] <Navion> matthew_: Progress... Now you know one more thing that doesn't work.
[21:52] <randomness> impossible to guess that right-draw :p
[21:52] <gartral> jstoone: didn't think it would, but there's still hope, close gparted and in terminal run testdisk as root
[21:52] <matthew_> yeh'
[21:53] <jstoone> gartral: done
[21:54] <jstoone> gartral: it doesn't appear here neather..
[21:54] <gartral> jstoone: hit create when it askes.
[21:54] <FlameTai1> Hey anyone able to help me on here with a sound problem?
[21:55] <matthew_> Navion, are you having any luck?
[21:55] <Navion> matthew_: not yet
[21:55] <gartral> jstoone: ooook.. now where looking at a possibly burnt out controler in the flashdrive, buuut. hang on, there's one more thing i can think of
[21:56] <koffeehaus> FlameTail - for starters go to terminal and type alsamixer to see if your sound is on
[21:56] <jstoone> gartral: uff.. doesn't sound good though, hehe
[21:57] <inaxio> i cannot fsck/mount/umount a device from my livecd.  when i boot i only boot into initramfs.  can someone please help me with this
[21:57] <koffeehaus> inaxio - what are you trying to unmount?
[21:58] <taher> Hello everybody
[21:58] <inaxio> koffeehaus: well im trying to fsck /dev/sda1 (partition containing / on my hard drive).  i cannot umount it since it isnt actually mounted, and i cant fsck it since it says its mounted or in use
[21:58] <gartral> jstoone: hmm.. it seems the program no longer can be grabbed >.<
[21:59] <taher> If I want to set my datezone properly via ssh, how do I do that?
[21:59] <russjr08> taher, try sudo dpkg --reconfigure tzdata
[21:59] <zello> Hi who can help me to configure tomcat6 and javaconnector
[21:59] <koffeehaus> is it a linux partition? if yes - the LiveCd is using the swap area assigned to that partition - unmount from Gparted
[21:59] <kitche> inaxio: mount and paste bet it's mounted
[21:59] <FlameTai1> koffeehaus: Everything is on, a long time ago I installed Linux and there was a problem with it, it took forever to figure it out.
[22:00] <jstoone> gartral: which one are you thinking of?
[22:00] <FlameTai1> koffeehaus: I have a Realtek ALC202 Rev0
[22:00] <taher> unknown option --reconfigure..
[22:00] <inaxio> kitche: http://pastebin.com/H7Meqqv9 output of 'mount' and 'umount /dev/sda1', pretty sure its not mounted
[22:00] <gartral> jstoone: it was a usb probing software...
[22:01] <zello> any help in tomcat configuration?
[22:01] <jstoone> gartral: can we find the source? cause then we can just compile it ourselfes?
[22:01] <gonzalo> Hello, I just installed Ubuntu 10.10 and I cannot right-click with my to. How can I fix this?
[22:01] <gonzalo> touchpad**
[22:02] <jstoone> gonzalo: don't use the mousepad :D no, just joking, I'm sorry for your loss though..
[22:02] <russjr08> taher, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata
[22:02] <gartral> jstoone: no, the website is gone and they didn't have a sourceforge. ok, well, we'll probe the old fashion way. reinsert the drive and run dmsg|tail. pastebin that output
[22:02] <taher> that worked better =) thanx
[22:03] <gonzalo> jstoone: haha but there's a way to fix it right?
[22:03] <gartral> jstoone: dmesg|tail
[22:03] <inaxio> the main thing i am trying to do here is to fsck /dev/sda1 (and sda6) because quote from dmesg "[    5.320112] EXT4-fs warning (device sda1): ext4_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in need of filesystem check."
[22:03] <Angelic> how to reverse an upgrade
[22:03] <russjr08> taher, no problem :)
[22:03] <jstoone> gonzalo: yea, have you tried to google it?
[22:04] <taher> let's see if that solves my modx problems...
[22:04] <koffeehaus> inaxio -  is it a linux partition? if yes - the LiveCd is using the swap area assigned to that partition - unmount from Gparted
[22:05] <inaxio> koffeehaus: okay, ill try that
[22:05] <jstoone> gartal: what are we looking for in the output?
[22:05] <gartral> inaxio: it's easier than that, run sudo swapoff
[22:06] <koffeehaus> inaxio - the partition itself is not mounted - but since it's an extended one - the swap area is assigned to it. liveCD taps to swap area, thus making the whole partition unusable
[22:07] <taher> russjr08: Are you good with php and modx as well? =)
[22:07] <russjr08> taher,  sorry :(
[22:07] <taher> k, thanx anyway =)
[22:07] <russjr08> np
[22:07] <rhalff> how can I find what provides asoundconf ?
[22:08] <jstoone> gartral: It can see the "takeMS" usb, it is in the output.
[22:08] <gartral> jstoone: pastebin the tail output too paste.ubuntu.com
[22:09] <inaxio> koffeehaus: swap is off, still cannot fsck either of the 2 partitions (same error)
[22:10] <kwtm> rhalff: dpkg -S filename
[22:10] <matthew_> Navion, my tv likes 1280x 720 but my laptop monitor wont let me select it for some reason if i could get my monitor to 1280 x 720 id be set
[22:10] <rhalff> kwtm, thanks man
[22:10] <rhalff> kwtm, nice, nothing provides that.. :)
[22:11] <jstoone> gartral: here you go: "paste.ubuntu.com/592331/"
[22:11] <jstoone> gartral: www.paste.ubuntu.com/592331/ - clickable
[22:12] <rhalff> kwtm, seems that only finds it if the package was allready installed
[22:12] <gartral> jstoone: that is too weird, the device is there.. but not responding..
[22:13] <inaxio> koffeehaus: any ideas?
[22:13] <kwtm> rhalff: Hmm... will check around dpkg man page a bit more.  Another possibility is "google site:ubuntu.org"  and yet another is   "http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?suite=lucid&section=all&arch=any&searchon=contents&keywords=asoundconf"
[22:14] <jstoone> gartral. i tried to "mount /dev/sdb ~/dev/usb" but it didn't work.. also I sometime go into "/dev/disk/by.uuid" and mount form there but there is nothing.. :S
[22:15] <koffeehaus> inaxio - do you have the same problem described here? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1652397
[22:15] <rhalff> kwtm, ok seems like asoundconf is not available anymore
[22:15] <gartral> jstoone: try /dev/sdb1
[22:16] <kwtm> rhalff: There is a asoundconf-gtk package in lucid.  Not sure about Whatever-Came-After-Lucid
[22:16] <inaxio> koffeehaus: possibly, how can i tell if its trying to automatically mount it?
[22:16] <kwtm> what's the name of the current ubuntu version?  Morbid Mouse?
[22:16] <kwtm> anyway, whatever it is.  I'm using LTS, so adjust the search accordingly for yours.
[22:16] <matthew_> does any one here know how i can force the resolution on my laptop to 1280x720 i been trying for hours now
[22:18] <koffeehaus> inaxio - can you access the partitions naturally? without livecd?
[22:18] <gartral> matthew_: try grandr
[22:18] <inaxio> koffeehaus: uh, what exactly do you mean?  i cannot really do much without the livecd - i go to initramfs when i try to boot
[22:18] <jstoone> gartral: It doesn't exist.. (it isn't in the list but tried anyway)
[22:19] <matthew_> gartral, where do i get it?
[22:20] <gartral> matthew_: apt-get install grandr
[22:20] <jstoone> matthew: remember to run it as superuser "sudo apt-get install" ;)
[22:21] <koffeehaus> inaxio - that's what i meant. yes, the disks are faulty. try going to gparted again. click on the disk and then click check
[22:22] <koffeehaus> inaxio - btw, just went to mine and found out that my ntfs is also faulty. good thing i never use it
[22:22] <vanguard> my clock in the top bar only shows "So, 10. Ap", how can I get the time back?
[22:22] <goose> How can I change the "theme" of natty back to those of older ubuntu/debian distros? I don't like the new "sidebar", I want the old style toolbars on top and bottom
[22:22] <inaxio> koffeehaus: same error when i try to check from there
[22:22] <jstoone> gartral: Is there still something left in you're sleeve? ;)
[22:23] <gartral> jstoone: nope.. that's weird
[22:24] <matthew_> gartral, i installed it and it dident have the option in the drop menu do i typed in in and it dident work
[22:25] <jstoone> gartral: I think I've fried it..
[22:25] <gartral> matthew_: man grandr
[22:25] <koffeehaus> inaxio - sorry mate i have no idea. i think your disks got messed up beyond fsck
[22:26] <goose> anyone? know how to change the appearance to look like it used to, with "Applications / Places / System" on top, and a task bar on bottom?
[22:26] <matthew_> gardar, brb going to log out then back in
[22:26] <gartral> jstoone: the very very last ditch effort, try running sudo fsch /dev/sdb
[22:26] <gartral> jstoone: the very very last ditch effort, try running sudo fsck /dev/sdb
[22:26] <inaxio> koffeehaus; searching on ubuntu forums says "Apparently the ubuntu live cd tries to mount the partition without success, leaving it neither mounted nor accessible for fsck."
[22:26] <Laptopman> Hello, I'm looking to buy a new laptop, but it is my understanding that optimus technology can't be used in linux, so what are my options?
[22:26] <roberto> hola
[22:26] <ikonia> Laptopman: optimus ?
[22:27]  * gardar slaps matthew_
[22:27] <Laptopman> http://www.nvidia.com/object/optimus_technology.html
[22:27] <koffeehaus> inaxio - but you have swaped off, isn't it...
[22:27] <Laptopman> switches graphics card on and off
[22:27] <inaxio> koffeehaus - yes
[22:28] <Laptopman> I understand that you can turn off the graphics cards in the bios, are they any other solutions to this?
[22:28] <Laptopman> I will have a hard time justifinying buying a differnt laptop just to use ubuntu sometimes
[22:29] <gartral> brb
[22:29] <roberto> but your main SO its windows right?
[22:30] <roberto> ....
[22:30] <Laptopman> It would be
[22:30] <inaxio> koffeehaus: does this process "  413 ?        00:00:00 jbd2/sda1-8" have anything to do with it?
[22:30] <roberto> u know wat
[22:30] <syskk> which filesystem is compatible with windows?
[22:31] <syskk> FAT right?
[22:31] <python> yes
[22:31] <python> Fat32
[22:31] <roberto> also ntfs
[22:31] <python> yeap
[22:31] <mysteriousdarren> NTFS
[22:31] <mysteriousdarren> depends on the use
[22:31] <jstoone> gartral: it failed.. the "no medium found" error strickes again... will the view on this problem change if I add in the info that I choose to format the USB as ext4 when I was about to install 11.04?
[22:32] <roberto> but practicaly ntfs its better than the others
[22:32] <Laptopman> I haven't bought my laptop yet, are there any laptops compareable to Asus U31JG-XA1 that are better compable with linux/ubuntu
[22:32] <jeeves_moss> how can I make a script in /etc/init.d/ so that my CS game servers will auto start with the server and I can stop/start/restart them like a service?
[22:32] <python> but if you want linux to read and write from windows ....you must format the windows file system to Fat32 not ntfs
[22:32]  * MTK358 is away: Gone away for now
[22:33] <python> If it is formated to ntfs...linux will only beable to read from it ..not write to it
[22:33] <roberto> laptopman u are thinking alot about that just buy it
[22:34] <inaxio> hey, i am trying to kill a process but it doesnt seem to work (tried 'sudo kill 413')
[22:34] <roberto> so in fat32 we can do both?
[22:34] <matthew_> im back
[22:34] <matthew_> who was helping me?
[22:34] <python> yes
[22:34] <python> Yes can do both in fat32
[22:34] <Cattista> inaxio, kill -9 413
[22:35] <mysteriousdarren> laptopman, if you are that worried about it go look at system76.com or zareason
[22:35] <jstoone> matthew: is it the screen size problem?
[22:35] <koffeehaus> inaxio - i don't know. i think your best bet is to post it on the Ubuntu forums, or Ask Ubuntu. I remember when i was running fedora on my laptop my disks failed on the physical clockwork level, and it wasn't a fault with a soft algorithm. but then again i was spilling tea and wine on it with unprecedented consistency
[22:35] <mysteriousdarren> laptopman, here is one
[22:35] <mysteriousdarren> http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=106
[22:35] <tim167> hi, how do i record mouse activity?
[22:35] <inaxio> cattista: http://pastebin.com/RbgVVSiG
[22:36] <matthew_> jstoone, yeh im trying to get both my  hdmi out and my computer screen on the same resolution so they look right
[22:36] <mysteriousdarren> http://zareason.com/shop/Laptops/
[22:36] <roberto> well but sttill isnt nice cos as u know in fat32 the largest space we can have in a partition its about 30g or something like that
[22:36] <inaxio> koffeehaus: well the thing is this drive is relatively new and the failure is quite sudden! it just went into read only mode at one point then crashed, and ive been unable to boot since
[22:36] <jstoone> python: i haven't read through your conversation, but I thought I would add that my windows partition is formatted in NTFS and I can read/write all I want, plus thne you don't have to bother about the 4.1GB limit (:
[22:36] <tim167> i want to record mouse activity, systemwide, regardless of which program is in focus...how do i do that?
[22:37] <cavalier_prime> inaxio, type kill -9 413
[22:37] <python> Jstoone ....>>>>you can write and write to the file sytem from linux
[22:38] <python> read and write
[22:38] <matthew_> can some one help me with my hdmi out i been trying for hours now and havent gotten any ware i am trying to display my computer screen on my tv but when i do i cant see my hole computer on the tv parts are cut off
[22:38] <inaxio> cavalier_prime: http://pastebin.com/mCfL6YUp
[22:38] <stefg> jeeves_moss: you might want to read man update-rc.d
[22:38] <jstoone> python: oh.. are you talking the other way around? :S rw from windows
[22:39] <jeeves_moss> stefg, ok, thanks.  I'm just trying to automate everything so I don't have to "babsit" this dumb box
[22:39] <python> Yeah ...from linux ...
[22:39] <cavalier_prime> inaxio sudo it
[22:39] <jstoone> matthew_: have you tried to adjust the tv-screen? :P
[22:39] <roberto> ok heres a question
[22:39] <inaxio> cavalier_prime: i did, it was the second command i did.  it produced no output and doesnt seem to have worked.
[22:39] <roberto> which one buntu family distro i should install in my desktop?
[22:40] <roberto> someone
[22:40] <stefg> jeeves_moss: that's what every sysadmin wants to do :-) write your script, put in in /etc/init.d , run update-rc.d ...
[22:40] <matthew_> jstoone, no but i dont think thats the problem cause when i use my tv its fine and how i fixed it on windows it was a software problem but ill look into it now
[22:40] <cavalier_prime> inaxio may take a reboot then
[22:41] <jeeves_moss> stefg, for me, it's trying to get the game servers to actually run correctly as the correct user
[22:41] <jstoone> inaxio, cavalier_prime: guys, just wanted to share this command with you "sudo !!". you know at times when you run a program and then you find out it should have been as superuser? this command steps back and runs the last command as superuser! it's great!
[22:41] <whoever>  I have some ocr pdfs that i am tring to conwvert to ocr jpgs, I have tried imagemagik but it is not a searchable file, any help would be appreciated
[22:42] <milamber> inaxio: i know i am kind of late on the convo, but does this help: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/jbd2-sda1-8-what-exactly-is-this-process-that-keeps-running-every-few-seconds-788810/
[22:42] <stefg> jeeves_moss: so you put  'su username' on top of your script
[22:42] <inaxio> milamber: considering i havent had a solution yet ill check it out
[22:42] <jstoone> jstoone: we have a samsung tv in our livingroom and i had to tell it NOT to resize the screen and do all thouse auto size fanzy stuff, and it all worked out (:
[22:42] <jeeves_moss> stefg, ok, thanks!
[22:42] <gartral> yay now have 2 gb of ram.
[22:43] <jstoone> gartral: grats :D
[22:43] <roberto> im using now ubuntu with a xfce enviroment
[22:43] <jstoone> gartral: it failed.. the "no medium found" error strickes again... will the view on this problem change if I add in the info that I choose to format the USB as ext4 when I was about to install 11.04?
[22:43] <roberto> as i know pragmatily ist the same
[22:43] <lizard_2k1> who know why system ask me install 0.8.2-2-1mint3 instead 0.8.2-2ubuntu21 ?
[22:43] <juboba> how can I configure an azumi m101 (Mobile Broadband)
[22:43] <juboba> ?
[22:44] <fisix> lizard_2k1, learn to english
[22:44] <roberto> 11.04 its stable already?
[22:44] <gartral> jstoone: well, i had 2gb at one point, that chip died, had too deal with 1 gb for a while, and just got a 2gb chip out of a laptop i found in the trash
[22:44] <gartral> jstoone: that shouldn't matter
[22:45] <jstoone> fisix: please watch your tone, read it again, and you know what he means..
[22:45] <gartral> jstoone: what was the brand of that drive again
[22:45] <jstoone> gartral: takeMS
[22:45] <koffeehaus> inaxio - that could be it actually! but i can't help you here. if you decide to post a query on Ask Ubuntu do mention that your partition permissions got screwed up.
[22:45] <matthew_> jstoone, thats not the problem
[22:45] <lizard_2k1> may be exists way fix broken depends?
[22:46] <inaxio> well it sheds insight as to what it is, but would this process (jbd2/sda1-8) be causing the error in fsck saying its in use?
[22:46] <jstoone> matthew_: hmm.. have you tried the "gradr"??
[22:47] <jstoone> matthew_:hmm.. have you tried to play around with "grandr"?
[22:47] <koffeehaus> inaxio - now that you've mentioned the permissions i'm convinced that's the problem
[22:47] <gartral> jstoone: i would contact the takeMS company and ask if they'll honor the warrenty
[22:47] <koffeehaus> inaxio , try re-phrasing your query to "how to fix my partition permissions"
[22:47] <matthew_> jstoone, yeh no results
[22:47] <inaxio> koffeehaus - well is there any way to kill it other than 'kill'/'kill -9'?
[22:48] <gimisa> XChat-GNOME 0.26.1
[22:48] <koffeehaus> inaxio - what is the process called again?
[22:48] <juboba> how can I configure an azumi m101 (Mobile Broadband)??
[22:48] <taher> exit
[22:48] <taher> quit
[22:48] <taher> bah
[22:49] <inaxio> koffeehaus: jbd2/sda1-8
[22:49] <inaxio> koffeehaus: having it implies its in use by that process so i think killing the process would let me fsck it, but i dunno
[22:50] <matthew_> jstoone, does grandr need sudo permissions?
[22:50] <jstoone> gartral: yea.. you're probably right.. well I'll try to call tomorrow.. but speaking of the RAM, is it one of your own laptops that you've previously thrown out, or a random coencidence of the neighboar throwing it out ;)
[22:50] <jstoone> matthew_:Nopes (:
[22:51] <matthew_> jstoone, then i dont no what to do
[22:51] <milamber> inaxio: it is an ext4 process. kill -9 is killing it, but the file system is restarting it
[22:51] <koffeehaus> inaxio - yes,  its a "process associated with journaling on the ext4 filesystem"
[22:51] <koffeehaus> hmmmm
[22:51] <koffeehaus> lesseee
[22:51] <milamber> !fsck
[22:53] <fisix> jstoone, i rest my case
[22:53] <matthew_> jstoone, im just about ready to give up been trying for idk how long now
[22:54] <inaxio> milamber - well why is this process restarting - the device isnt mounted so why would it need it?
[22:54] <jstoone> matthew_:One last thing.. found this article.. http://www.ypass.net/blog/2009/07/dvi-to-hdmi-overscan-screen-edge-cutoff-on-an-hdtv/ - read it though and play around with it (:
[22:54] <koffeehaus> inaxio - http://sanjayak71.blogspot.com/2010/10/recovering-unmountable-partition-from.html
[22:55] <matthew_> jstoone, thanks ill look it over and see how it ends
[22:55] <GatunoRox> hello
[22:55] <juboba> how can I configure an azumi m101 (Mobile Broadband)??
[22:55] <GatunoRox> Can I apply system updates to Live USB linux with persistence?
[22:55] <juboba> anyone?
[22:57] <matthew_> jstoone, this looks promising thanks
[22:57] <milamber> inaxio: what version of ubuntu?
[22:57] <fisix> lizard_2k1, ce qui est le problemme?
[22:57] <inaxio> milamber: 10.10
[22:57] <milamber> GatunoRox: no
[22:57] <inaxio> koffeehaus: well i unfortunately dont have anything but this livecd to work with
[22:57] <GatunoRox> Then what should I do to get the system up to date?
[22:58] <stefg> juboba: apparently google has no info on that. i suspect it's a re-branded device (maybe a Huawei). plug it in and ask lsusb for the device id... then google that
[22:58] <jstoone> fisix: It's all right, just wanted to point it out, 'cause no one likes to get told that they suck at writing english, I would rather like to get told "I didn't understand you're question, please refrace it" or something like that ;) - have a good one
[22:58] <lizard_2k1> fisix: sorry, an english please
[22:58] <fisix> LOL
[22:58] <koffeehaus> inaxio - okay, if can't fully unmount it - can you fully mount it then?
[22:58] <milamber> bug 607560
[22:59] <jstoone> matthew_: Any time bud, mail me on jakob.sturluson@gmail.com when and tell me how it goes. I'm going to bed now..
[22:59] <Bite> My Xubuntu isn't picking up on my other HDD. Is there a quick terminal command that will fix this?
[22:59] <inaxio> koffeehaus: the error is ususally "mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab"
[22:59] <matthew_> jstoone, will do
[23:00] <stefg> Bite: read dmesg and sudo fdisk -l
[23:00] <jstoone> Bite: have you tried to mount it manually?
[23:00] <fisix> lizard_2k1, just out of curiosity. what language DO you speak? the whois says you're from paris
[23:00] <Bite> jstoone: How? That's what i want to do.
[23:00] <milamber> inaxio: what is the ultimate issue/goal? i believe you started w/ how to kill a process?
[23:00] <jstoone> fisix: hahaha, good one though ;)
[23:00] <lizard_2k1> fisix: russian, english
[23:01] <fisix> lizard_2k1, ah, can't help you there then lol
[23:01] <jstoone> bite: do you know what it is called?
[23:01] <fisix> jstoone, :D
[23:01] <dale_> say im having a problem recognizing a USB on my desktop, the laptop I have recognizes it almost instantly, but the desktop doesn't show anything
[23:01] <inaxio> milamber: well i need to fsck this partition because i cannot boot with it, and i cannot fsck it because it seems to be in use (although not mounted!)
[23:01] <Bite> jstoone: It's just the local disk on my WinXP....
[23:02] <Bite> jstoone: and last time it was mounted it was a random sequence of numbers.
[23:02] <pmo> dale_, lsusb.. check out release of kernel and more..
[23:02] <inaxio> milamber: also regarding this line from dmesg "[    5.320112] EXT4-fs warning (device sda1): ext4_clear_journal_err: Marking fs in need of filesystem check."
[23:02] <superjoe> hey, is firefox 4 included in natty?
[23:02] <koffeehaus> inaxio - do you keep your stuff on a different partition? the thing is - if it gets really f**ked up you can reinstall it
[23:02] <sgerbino> is there a way to restart unity in maverick 10.10, after coming out of a fullscreen game the graphics get messed up
[23:03] <milamber> inaxio: can you pastebin the output of the command: df
[23:03] <jstoone> bite: hehehe.. well have you tried to look in the "places" and see if it is there? ex. my window partition is called "220 GB filesystem"
[23:03] <inaxio> koffeehaus: i have /dev/sda1 which is the system and sda6 which is my /home, but sda6 seems to have the same problem sadly
[23:03] <jstoone> superjoe: yes it is 8:
[23:03] <superjoe> word!
[23:03] <Bite> Jstoone; Mine is typicallly called "160 gb filesystem," but it's not there.
[23:03] <superjoe> april 28, looking forward to it
[23:03] <jstoone> superjoe: one of the best releases to date.
[23:03] <inaxio> milamber: here http://pastebin.com/EFPThnTR
[23:04] <superjoe> I think I may have to revert to gnome though. I'll give unity a shot first
[23:04] <stefg> Bite: does "dmesg | grep sda" tell you something?
[23:04] <python> gnome is the best in my mind
[23:04] <koffeehaus> inaxio - out of curiosity - what is your sda6 format?
[23:04] <Bite> stefg: Nope.
[23:04] <inaxio> koffeehaus: also ext4
[23:04] <Riaku> pmo i PMed you
[23:04] <superjoe> I especially like  alt+space m, shift arrow keys
[23:05] <jstoone> bite: ok have you tried to launch the "Disk Utility" in System - administration - Disk Utility
[23:05] <Codex84> sup sup
[23:05] <Codex84> ppls
[23:05] <stefg> Bite: does sudo fdisk -l see the disk?
[23:05] <Codex84> yea
[23:05] <jstoone> superjoe: what editor are you useing when you program bash, python or like? (vim?)
[23:06] <fisix> is the whois on irc accurate?
[23:06] <ftjla> can some one give me a url that describes how to make a shortcut script that will open up multiple applications at once.  Skype, xchat (specific rooms), firefox (with four sites) and etc
[23:06] <superjoe> jstoone, I use qtcreator for C++, other than that, vim
[23:06] <Codex84> is use for partition
[23:06] <Bite> stefg: Yes. jstoone, one sec, it's a tad hidden in the lighter xubuntu.
[23:06] <jstoone> whois fisix
[23:06] <jstoone> go damnit.
[23:06] <Sup> Does anyone know if there is a: bashrc or bash_profile alternative in the Windows envirument?
[23:06] <fisix> jstoone, are you from irvine/USA?
[23:07] <milamber> inaxio: http://forum.eeeuser.com/viewtopic.php?id=85230
[23:07] <jstoone> fisix: haha no not at all! Have to go a little north ;)
[23:07] <milamber> inaxio: that is googlefu, under the update section there is a way to disable the journaling
[23:07] <CrazyGir> how do you get the dependency tree for a package? I am looking at the ubuntu-vm-builder package and have _no_ idea why postfix is needed.. I'd like to see who included this and how to remove it
[23:08] <fisix> jstoone, oh so i guess the whois is a bunch of balls. i'm in canada too..
[23:08] <Sup> Does anyone know if there is a: bashrc or bash_profile alternative in the Windows envirument?
[23:08] <jstoone> superjoe: if you feel comfortable with vim bindings than you should REALLY check out the "vimperator" plugin for firefox :D
[23:08] <milamber> CrazyGir: apt-cache policy <packagename>    may be what you are looking for?
[23:08]  * CrazyGir tests
[23:08] <jstoone> fisix: haha good expression (:
[23:09] <koffeehaus> inaxio - okay this is REALLY far fetched - but i've googled jbd2 sda1-8 and the only distro mentioned seems to be ubuntu. what if you burn a non- Debian liveCD and see what happens then when you boot.
[23:09] <Bite> jstoone: it shos up in disk util, but not /media
[23:09] <Bite> Mounted, got it, thanks.
[23:09] <stefg> CrazyGir: i think you can safely apt-get autoremove postfix without loosing vm-builder... it's the same with mdadm: you install it and get postfix and bsd-mailx as dependency, but if yyou purge them, mdadm stays there
[23:09] <inaxio> koffeehaus: i will see about that soon; id really prefer not to burn another cd unless its absolutely nessecary
[23:09] <jstoone> bite: have you tried to do the "mount" command in disk utillity ?
[23:09] <jstoone> bite: ah, good good (:
[23:10] <Bite> Thanks for the help, guys.
[23:10] <CrazyGir> stefg: so mdadm pulls in postfix?
[23:10] <CrazyGir> stefg: what is the 'correct' way to avoid postfix to begin with?
[23:10] <inaxio> milamber: i tried but...  http://pastebin.com/Ds9F6qij
[23:10] <stefg> CrazyGir: right.... in a server environment you usually want to get norified if a disk dies...
[23:10] <CrazyGir> milamber: nope
[23:10] <jstoone> bite, do you want me to help you write an alias ? I have an alias called "mountwin" to mount my windows partition, it's great (:
[23:11] <CrazyGir> stefg: is there no mta included in base??
[23:11] <fisix> jstoone, i'm guessing you're quebecois?
[23:11] <CrazyGir> (sorry, new to ubuntu)
[23:11] <Bite> jstoone: Why exactly would i need one? Just curiousity.
[23:11] <Jon--> How can I make it so grub updates don't automatically re-generate my grub.cfg?
[23:11] <stefg> CrazyGir: you would either have to modify the mdadm package or use some --force switch to apt
[23:11] <Bite> jstoone: and what are startup links? I one time ran a terminal command and deleted them all.
[23:12] <CrazyGir> fun stuff
[23:12] <CrazyGir> stefg: is there really no mta setup by default?
[23:12] <stefg> CrazyGir: this is ubuntu ... not debian:-)
[23:12] <mickster04> Jon--: back it up then replace it every time i guess would be easiest, why don't you want it redoing it?
[23:12] <CrazyGir> HAH!
[23:12] <CrazyGir> :)
[23:12] <wlancather> hi
[23:13] <Bite> What are startup links? boot.ini, i believe?
[23:13] <Jon--> mickster04, Because... I.. don't?
[23:13] <CrazyGir> thanks for the info stefg
[23:13] <polterge|st> quick question ... I am wanting to learn how to port rbeq plugin for the old rhythmbox to rhythmbox 2.90 in gnome 3 so that it works with current gnome-shell
[23:13] <wlancather> i nedd a helper
[23:13] <milamber> inaxio: can you run e2fsck?
[23:13] <jstoone> bite: Well if you use the terminal a lot, like i do, then it's nice to have for fast booting (:
[23:13] <polterge|st> how would this be done
[23:13] <tim167> is there any VNC VIEWER that actually WORKS on ubuntu ?
[23:13] <polterge|st> here is a pastebin of the actual py file from the plugin
[23:13] <polterge|st> http://pastebin.com/cH6uLHuP
[23:13] <Bite> jstoone: and it's still not popping up in places.
[23:13] <tim167> and that doesn't require me to read 30 man pages before getting it working?
[23:13] <wlancather> any portuguese__
[23:13] <jstoone> fisix: may i ask, where did you get that impression? :P
[23:13] <inaxio> milamber: nope
[23:14] <Sup> e essentials et
[23:14] <rshakin> hey how do i launch the ati control panel from command line ?
[23:14] <cavalier_prime> gnome-rdp
[23:14] <Sup> Does anyone know if there is a: bashrc or bash_profile alternative in the Windows envirument
[23:14] <jstoone> bite: but can you access it now?
[23:14] <milamber> Sup: best bet is ##windows
[23:14] <Bite> jstoone: The disk isn't showing up in places or the file manager, like it did before. I can still access it, but it's a lot more convienient to have in those two places.
[23:14] <Jon--> How can I make it so grub updates don't automatically re-generate my grub.cfg?
[23:15] <polterge|st> this is what I am wanting ported to gnome 3
[23:15] <polterge|st> http://code.google.com/p/rbeq/downloads/detail?name=rbeq-1.4.tar.gz&can=1&q=
[23:15] <tim167> is there a vnc viewer for ubuntu?
[23:15] <jstoone> bite: have you tried to do an old-fashion reboot? :P
[23:15] <Bite> jstoone: no. :V
[23:15] <stefg> Jon--: you don't ... you rather look at the files in /etc/grub.d and tweak them so that grub.cfg gets written how you want it
[23:15] <tim167> can i access a remote desktop from ubuntu ?
[23:16] <Bite> jstoone: what are startup links? I deleted them one time on accident.
[23:16] <Sup> Milamber: im asking in ##windows to
[23:16] <shcherbak> tim167: vnc-viewer, that how it is called
[23:16] <milamber> !patience | tim167
[23:16] <tim167> shcherbak: does it work ?
[23:16] <milamber> tim167: did you follow the documentation?
[23:16] <milamber> !vnc
[23:16] <superjoe> jstoone, a friend uses vimperator. I think I like normal firefox shortcuts better
[23:16] <superjoe> you can't beat tick search
[23:16] <superjoe> or awesome bar
[23:16] <tim167> milamber: sorry i don't have time to read 30 man pages
[23:16] <jstoone> bite: go try it out, I'll be here when you logg on again, if it fixes it please tell, 'cause i don't want to hang around for ever xD
[23:16] <Bite> I just realized that ubuntu warns if a disk is failing. yet another win for ubuntu vs windows.
[23:17] <cavalier_prime> tim167 gnome-rdp is a good vnc/remote desktop  i use it all the time to access windows machines
[23:17] <Bite> jstoone: okay then, brb.
[23:17] <shcherbak> tim167: It does. There are only two man, one for server, second for client.
[23:17] <fisix> jstoone, figured somebody who would be concerned about being criticized for incomplete mastery of the english language may have had that happen to him/herself. i could tell by ur typing english might not have been ur first language. you're in canada. all together it seemed likely ^^. am i right? haha
[23:17] <tim167> milamber: the default ubuntu VINE does not work, screen is not updated
[23:17] <tim167> cavalier_prime: thanks i'll check that
[23:17] <milamber> tim167: did you come across a bug report for that? or did you file a bug report? have you come here and asked for help at the specific point where you issue came up?
[23:18] <GatunoRox> Is there a Multiboot LiveUSB creator wich can create multiple persistences?
[23:18] <koffeehaus> tim167 - you will need vncviewer package. there are many tutorials that tell you how to do it.
[23:18] <tim167> milamber: sorry no time for reporting bugs, haha :)
[23:18] <Styper> Hey, does anyone know a software for bitrate conversion of mp3 files?
[23:18] <jstoone> bite: fisix: that's right! Good adding :D 2+2=5 right? ;)
[23:18] <shcherbak> Styper: ffmpeg?
[23:19] <stefg> Styper:  audacity, vlc
[23:19] <fisix> jstoone, LOL what >___>
[23:19] <Styper> Oh, didn't know those could do that
[23:19] <jstoone> styper: ffmpeg is highly recommended :D
[23:19] <induz> is there anyway i can mount VHD files
[23:19] <Styper> Gonna check it out, thanks guys
[23:19] <Bite> jstoone: i came to linux for the lack of constant "reboot to finish installation" menus. >:V
[23:19] <induz> they are Xp files[virtual]
[23:19] <Styper> Yeah I got it here already :D
[23:19] <shino__> hey, trying to recover a xfs partition that was deleted. testdisk is unable to do it. Are there other tools that work with xfs?
[23:19] <induz> .vhd
[23:19] <fisix> jstoone, are you going 1984 on me...
[23:19] <Bite> jstoone: so when i need to reboot linux, i be angsty.
[23:20] <stefg> Styper:  i would avoid that... lossy codecs are never good for re-encoding.
[23:20] <Bite> Apparently, i have 1 bad sector under "Reallocated Sector count." What does that mean?
[23:20] <jstoone> bite: well i just remembered that it's often enough to just logg out and in ;) hehe ups.
[23:20] <Styper> Well I have audacity aswell, gonna try it our first
[23:20] <Styper> out*
[23:21] <Styper> Thanks for the info
[23:21] <stefg> Bite: on sector died and the firmware of you hd rplaced it with a "reserve sector"
[23:21] <tim167> milamber: i found some discussions about the non updating VINE screen with links to a million man pages howto's and whatnots, ...uh... tiring and i'm on a time budget
[23:21] <shcherbak> Bite: You need to start thinking og general back-up and ned HD
[23:21] <Bite> Guys....
[23:21] <Bite> This is an -ancient- 20 gb maxtor HDD.
[23:22] <Bite> I'm surprised it has only ONE bad sector.
[23:22] <inaxio> so heres a summary of my problem: i cannot mount/fsck/umount 2 partitions.  i need to fsck these two partitions, because i can no longer boot and have these errors in dmesg -- http://pastebin.com/twQtt8RG . i am currently booted on a livecd, and i need to find a way to fsck these or make it so they arent 'in use' or anything so i can fsck them
[23:22] <stefg> Bite: donate that to the museum and get a decent drive
[23:22] <Gumby> hi all, can anyone tell me the preferred way to enable/disable upstart items?
[23:22] <jstoone> fisix: you bet it am! ;)
[23:22] <facugaich> Hi. Is there any reason for not listing the 10.04.2-desktop-amd64.iso torrent in the alternative downloads page?
[23:22] <polterge|st> does anyone in here have the slightest clue as to how to do what I mentioned a moment ago ?
[23:22] <Bite> stefg: If my server-machine-turn-pc had another sata channel, gladly.
[23:22] <polterge|st> porting rbeq to current rhythmbox in gnome 3 rather
[23:22] <polterge|st> http://code.google.com/p/rbeq/downloads/detail?name=rbeq-1.4.tar.gz&can=1&q=
[23:23] <Bite> I do have another unopened drive sitting around, but it's a caviar green from WD and supposedly fails after ~1.
[23:23] <Bite> ~1year, that it.
[23:23] <Bite> is*
[23:23] <jstoone> stefg: hehe!
[23:23] <cavalier_prime> gumby  system>startup applications
[23:23] <Bite> well, off to dinner, brb.
[23:23] <cavalier_prime> nm gumby
[23:23] <matthew_> can some one help me install this i need it to fix my display out
[23:23] <stefg> Bite: 20 Gigs.... man, that's a 16G usb-thumbdrive for a compressed backup
[23:24] <matthew_> would help if i gave the link http://wilmer.gaa.st/blog/archives/34-Change-Intel-X.org-TV-Out-margins.html
[23:24] <tim167> gnome-rdp result: (gnome-rdp:4856): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[23:24] <tim167> Duplicate entries found. Deleting item 24 from keyring login
[23:24] <fisix> jstoone, lmao wait wait, so are you quebecois or not?
[23:24] <tim167>  -viewonly 91.65.137.187
[23:24] <tim167> (gnome-rdp:4856): Gtk-WARNING **: GtkSpinButton: setting an adjustment with non-zero page size is deprecated
[23:24] <FloodBot1> tim167: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:24] <tim167> sweet
[23:24] <jstoone> stefg: haha! yea.. it's pretty back in the days..
[23:24] <matthew_> nvm there is a deb
[23:24] <facugaich> Where can I report an error on the ubuntu website?
[23:24] <Bite|Away> Well, I think i'll just get a SATA III 7200 RPM 500 GB from Western Digital.
[23:24] <milamber> !bug
[23:25] <polterge|st> alright I just thought I would ask about the rhythmbox thing
[23:25] <Bite|Away> Anyways, brb.
[23:25] <tim167> sorry guys i'm irritated with ubuntu today :)
[23:25] <jstoone> fisix: I am, why is this important? ;)
[23:25] <polterge|st> it needs a good eq and rhythmbox-equalizer is obsolete
[23:25] <polterge|st> and rbeq is much better anyway
[23:25] <facugaich> milamber: So, launchpad is also for ubuntu.com?
[23:25] <polterge|st> seems like a nice ui plugin to have in rhythmbox in ubuntu
[23:25] <matthew_> but its not for 64 bit so i still need help in stalling this http://wilmer.gaa.st/blog/archives/34-Change-Intel-X.org-TV-Out-margins.html
[23:25] <polterge|st> and people want ubuntu to be feature rich and easy to use ... correct ?
[23:25] <Guest11294> i have two ubuntu pc's on my network and want to share the home directory of one to the other.. how do i go about this? everything i read talks about a windows/ubuntu setup
[23:25] <polterge|st> this is why it seems like it should be of interest
[23:26] <shcherbak> polterge|st: There is nice pulseaudio equalizer (system wide).
[23:26] <tim167> can anyone help me to fix this problem: VINE screen is not refreshing...? thanks!
[23:26] <milamber> facugaich: yes
[23:26] <fisix> jstoone, just had to know.. LOL testing my own deduction skills :b . i know a bit of french, don't you guys have different abbreviated internet slang? instead of lol, brb, etc?
[23:26] <polterge|st> yeah but the issue with that is that pulseaudio-equalizer equalizes everything and is not app specific
[23:26] <shcherbak> yup
[23:26] <cavalier_prime> gumby you will have to edit your upstart scripts in /etc/event.d
[23:26] <polterge|st> for instance if you want a club preset on your music and a surround / bass preset on your mplayer app
[23:26] <Bite|Away> Kuhuhuh...
[23:27] <polterge|st> you would not be able to have both
[23:27] <polterge|st> this is a drawback
[23:27] <shcherbak> polterge|st: for player - audiacious!
[23:27] <Bite|Away> My dad's going to let me dismantle an old 500 MB harddrive.
[23:27] <Gumby> cavalier_prime: sorry, I should be more specific.  via command line
[23:27] <Bite|Away> I think I'm going to take the dremel to it.
[23:27] <polterge|st> it would be better to have an equalizer that functions similar to how the sound properties work in the current pulseaudio sound properties
[23:27] <jstoone> bite: you mean old pendrive right?
[23:27] <milamber> tim167: xp to vine?
[23:27] <Bite|Away> jstoone: Yep.
[23:28] <ftjla> can some one give me a url that describes how to make a shortcut script that will open up multiple applications at once.  Skype, xchat (specific rooms), firefox (with four sites) and etc
[23:28] <polterge|st> if you notice when you right click on sound properties and go to apps you see sliders for apps independently
[23:28] <milamber> ftjla: man bash
[23:28] <polterge|st> an eq should be integrated into that
[23:28] <tim167> milamber: xp? do you mean windoze?
[23:28] <cavalier_prime> gumby if you just want to stop a something that is running, sudo /etc/init.d/networking stop for example
[23:28]  * stefg puts his old hd's in the workshop microwave ... don't try this at home :-)
[23:28] <polterge|st> an eq that works similarly to the independent app volume would be ideal
[23:28] <Bite|Away> If all else fails, I'm going to take a magnet to it to admit defeat and then burn it, sink it in water, and finally take a torch to it.
[23:28] <milamber> tim167: a quick google comes up w/ this: http://old.nabble.com/No-screen-refresh-using-TightVNC-client-on-XP-to-Vine-Server-server-on-OS-X-td23390716.html
[23:28] <pmo> ftjla, on script you add a "&" at the end of each applicaiton you'll mention in your file..
[23:29] <polterge|st> apps should be independently eq'd and an option should also exist to disable that with a checkbox and master eq the entire system if desired
[23:29] <matthew_> can some one please help me configure this program http://wilmer.gaa.st/blog/archives/34-Change-Intel-X.org-TV-Out-margins.html im on a 64bit computer
[23:29] <polterge|st> this way the user has option but not too many
[23:29] <polterge|st> just enough to be practical
[23:29] <stefg> Bite|Away: microwave oven .... but an old one .... it WILL blend ! :-)
[23:29] <Gumby> cavalier_prime: yes, I know how to start/stop services.  Just need to disable.  You used to be able to use chkconfig etc to enable/disable items for different runlevels.  It seems like a step backwards to go back to needing to edit txt files in order to change what starts on each runlevel
[23:29] <food__> ftjla http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1624175 here is the ur;
[23:30] <cavalier_prime> gumby yeah
[23:30] <facugaich> milamber: Is there a specific package I should be looking for?
[23:30] <polterge|st> the pulseaudio-equalizer should be more like the rbeq plugin in terms of the number of bands and frequencies it has
[23:30] <Gumby> cavalier_prime: it also does not appear that 10.10 has /etc/event.d either
[23:30] <jstoone> fisix: not really, at least not in my part of town ;) but again, I'm an icelandic born quebecois, but I've been living here since i was 3. ;) but again people pronounce it different, things like lol+frensh, can you imagine?
[23:30] <tim167> milamber: i'm on ubuntu
[23:30] <ftjla> food__, pmo: thx
[23:30] <cavalier_prime> yeah, ubuntu has a modified upstart if you are used to the standard
[23:31] <tim167> milamber: and i have the no refresh issue
[23:31] <food__> ftjla: np
[23:31] <shcherbak> jstoone: lol [loele]?
[23:31] <cavalier_prime> gumby it is just their way of getting consistency to the way the system is scripted
[23:31] <aaron_c> hi, is it faster to grsync 10GB of files over ssh or to download the 10GB to an external and reup to the new computer
[23:31] <aaron_c> i'd be transfering over the local network
[23:32] <milamber> tim167: what tutorial did you use to install?
[23:32] <Aginor> aaron_c, if you transfer your local network it is most likely going to be a lot faster than to transfer over the Internet
[23:32] <shcherbak> aaron_c: 10 bucks on ssh (depense how to connect drives)
[23:32] <fisix> jstoone, ohhh icic. i'm gonna take another wild guess here and say it's more likely you're a girl :p
[23:33] <jstoone> shcherbak: hahaha, we can say so, yes ;) but I myself isn't that big a fan of replaceing my actual laugh with a abbreviation ;)
[23:33] <stefg> aaron_c: depends on the network speed.... on a Gig network it's faster to scp
[23:33] <inaxio> so heres a summary of my problem: i cannot mount/fsck/umount 2 partitions.  i need to fsck these two partitions, because i can no longer boot and have these errors in dmesg -- http://pastebin.com/twQtt8RG . i am currently booted on a livecd, and i need to find a way to fsck these or make it so they arent 'in use' or anything so i can fsck them
[23:33] <tim167> milamber: none, just, synaptic
[23:33] <Aginor> aaron_c, look into using rsync (over ssh) for your file transfer
[23:33] <jstoone> shcherbak: an*
[23:33] <lolmatic> i am so stoned of weed and multiple medications
[23:33] <milamber> !vnc | tim167
[23:33] <aaron_c> Aginor: yea that's what my plan is, but i'm wondering if it'd be faster to move the files toa n external and then connect the external ot the new computer
[23:33] <thevishy> natty is out ?
[23:33] <aaron_c> stefg: gotcha
[23:33] <milamber> tim167: there is some basic setup you have to do.
[23:33] <milamber> !natty | thevishy
[23:33] <Aginor> aaron_c, by external you mean external harddrive, not external site?
[23:33] <thevishy> When will I Computer starts its upgrade ?
[23:34] <aaron_c> yea external hd
[23:34] <thevishy> thanks
[23:34] <bisu[Shield]> I have a process that is dumping files into a directory and I am manually monitoring it.  I dont want to run ls -ltr ever few secs. so is there a command that does the equivallent of running ls ever few secs (like what tail -f does with files?
[23:34] <Aginor> aaron_c, what's your network speed? gigbait, 100mbps or wireless?
[23:34] <aaron_c> we're connected via a wireless router on the same local network
[23:35] <Aginor> aaron_c, if you respond to my questions, please mention my name in the line so that I get a highlight, it is a reasonable busy channel and it makes it easier for me to see when you respond
[23:35] <aaron_c> Aginor: gotcha, sorry bout that
[23:35] <jstoone> aginor: i'm currently running on a moden 52k modem :D
[23:35] <aaron_c> Aginor: we're connected via a wireless router on the same local network.  how can i check the connection speed?
[23:36] <shcherbak> bisu[Shield]: in loop; while true; do ls directory > file ; done; and run tail -f on file ;)
[23:36] <Aginor> aaron_c, it'll be pretty slow if it's wireless so I'd go with the external drive option or to get some wired network in place
[23:36] <gp5st1> is it just me or did flash performance crash after the last update?  i can't do anything (youtube, pandora, banking app (don't ask, ugh)) &c w/o the system coming to an utter halt
[23:36] <aaron_c> Aginor: ok so if we both connect directly to the router, then go with rsync though?
[23:37] <stefg> bisu[Shield]: man watch
[23:37] <Sayke> Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111Ïðèâåò!!!!!!!111111
[23:37] <Aginor> aaron_c, 802.11g has a theoretical max of 54mbps, 802.11n 108mbps, but in reality you never reach those speeds
[23:37] <jstoone> gp5st1: i have some problems with flash too, but I think there's a patch fixing the problem soon (:
[23:37] <Aginor> aaron_c, that's how I would do it, or to attempt to directly connect the computers to each other and manually assign an ip to each
[23:37] <aaron_c> Aginor: ok cool, thanks!
[23:38] <python> only 1/2 that speed...depending on how many clients are connected to AP
[23:38] <Aginor> aaron_c, no worries
[23:38] <rshakin> any ppl can help me out with ati drivers ?
[23:38] <milamber> !ati
[23:38] <shcherbak> aaron_c: To check connection copy one file, scp gives speed (or trying)
[23:38] <Aginor> !ask | rshakin
[23:38] <jstoone> fisix: are you gone in the wind?
[23:38] <gp5st1> jstoone: ok,i just wanted to know if anyone else was experincing this as well. it all worked fine until the last update (could be co-incidental, though)
[23:39] <rshakin> Aginor: i need to launch control panel for ati drivers from cli... since the default path in the menu opens the non root version
[23:39] <matthew_> could some one please help me compile this program http://wilmer.gaast.net/blog/archives/34-Change-Intel-X.org-TV-Out-margins.html
[23:40] <jstoone> gp5st1: yea it could be.. but if I put YT vids on full screen it sometimes crashes, plus I'm an old school dude, who likes to go to the bank in person ;=
[23:40] <jstoone> ;)*
[23:40] <fisix> jstoone, not quite. i'm just reasonably good at connecting things to other things :p
[23:41] <Aginor> rshakin, in a terminal, type  "sudo amdcccle" without the quote marks
[23:41] <rshakin> Aginor: thank you
[23:41] <Aginor> rshakin, it's outline in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[23:41] <jstoone> matthew: I can try to complile it for you?
[23:41] <bisu[Shield]> thanks
[23:42] <MarcoPau> hello, mysqld-akonadi is starting at boot and it won't let xampp load mysqld, which is interfering with what I'm trying to do. do you know how to permanently shut akonadi?
[23:42] <jstoone> fisix: try to tell me why you think I'm a girl? Ain't I writing like everyone else?
[23:43] <gp5st1> jstoone: :-p I do too, but i check my balance all the time on line.  I'm also watching ds9 w/o having to get up and change disks every couple episodes;)
[23:43] <ubuntu_> .
[23:44] <Riiick> !br
[23:45] <celso> Riiick, br
[23:45] <jstoone> gp5st1: haha, checkMyBalance=phoneCall
[23:45] <matthew_> i am trying to follow this guide but i cant because i am running 6 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=796776
[23:45] <matthew_> 64bit operating system and the program that i need to compile is only for 32 bit
[23:46] <matthew_> and i cant figure out how to compile it manually sorry its broken up i acidentally hit enter
[23:46] <fisix> jstoone, you use a lot of emoticons which convey that you're friendly, you seem more empathetic than the typical guy, and some more things :)
[23:48] <matthew_> jstoone, the guide u gave me dident work cause my card is intel
[23:48] <jstoone> fisix: litle irc geeks can be friendly, empathetic ... and some more things?
[23:49] <jstoone> matthew: I'll try to compile it for you.
[23:49] <matthew_> jstoone, thanks
[23:50] <konstantyn> Пожалуйста помогите! Xubuntu10.04 нечитает DVD .Что мне делать?
[23:50] <ule> omg
[23:50] <fisix> jstoone, for sure. but it was just a gut feeling ya know? it sounds silly in words, but that's the best way i can describe it. am i right though?! :p
[23:51] <IdleOne> !ru | konstantyn
[23:52] <konstantyn> Спасибо!
[23:52] <jstoone> fisix: ding ding ding ding! You've got a jackpot ;)
[23:52] <fisix> jstoone, :D :D
[23:52] <matthew_> jstoone, not sure f it madders but im running 64 bit ubuntu
[23:52] <jstoone> konstantyn: (thank god you're name isn't in russian), but would you please go to #ubuntu-ru?
[23:53] <Aginor> !ru
[23:54] <jstoone> matthew: Ah, I can't compile it cause the folder structure and filenames has changed since 7 and 8, I'm sorry.
[23:54] <pylix> grub2 can't find grub.cfg i know where this file is located how to tell grub where it is?
[23:55] <jstoone> matthew: does new tv-screens have the same function as the old BIG monitors, the function to move the "picture" up/down left/right and expand on y/x?
[23:55] <jstoone> +-y/+-x
[23:56] <jstoone> fisix: what do you do for a living?
[23:56] <asas> I am in need of some help.
[23:56] <asas> IS anyone here?
[23:56] <Aginor> !ask | asas
[23:57] <IdleOne> !ot | jstoone fisix
[23:57] <jstoone> asas: just ask (: what's you're problem?
[23:57] <fisix> LOL way to be a joykill IdleOne
[23:57] <IdleOne> Thank you. That is why I get the bi9g bux
[23:57] <jstoone> IdleOne: Sorry though ;)
[23:57] <IdleOne> big*
[23:57] <asas> I installed some updates for my driver and restarted my computer and when I logged back in the ubuntu screen upon loading was in like 8 bit and I cant see any of the files I had on my computer
[23:57] <asas> Do you know the problem?
[23:58] <lescrooge> On my Asrock ION 330 I now have 8 or nine installations of 10.04. I read somewhere that Ubuntu in general does not like SATA drives. Could this be causing the re-installations and what can I do to stop it? 10.04 looks like it's about to come apart at the seams. I've lost the internet icon and skype on the top bar. They work, but there just is no evidence of their presence. I've tried...
[23:58] <lescrooge> ...reinstalling skype, but the top bar ikon still remains  disappeared. I.ve never seen this happen before.
[23:58] <lescrooge> Another issue concerns the scanner on my Brother MFC 5440CN. Simple Scan doesn't do anything. I can't find any anywhere. Can anyone help, pliz? TVM
[23:58] <Aginor> asas, I'm not able to help you, but could you please provide some more details? It's still a bit vague for someone who might be able to help you
[23:58] <asas> ... I had files on my desktop you could see but now I cant see them in their folders or the desktop.
[23:59] <asas> also all the toolbar icons are gone.
[23:59] <jstoone> asas: well what driver were you installing?
[23:59] <asas> Let me try and clear this more.
[23:59] <asas> I was fixing my graphics card.
[23:59] <NoqturnalX> can anyone tell me how gparted shrinks partitions?
[23:59] <asas> I had this happen before and it was fixed.
[23:59] <jstoone> fisix: dunno how to send private messages?