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| hicham | xi patches won't make it upstream ? | 02:47 |
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| RAOF | hicham: What Xi patches? | 03:15 |
| DBO | RAOF, i have a complaint | 04:07 |
| DBO | seeing as your the person I complain to about x11 related crap | 04:08 |
| RAOF | DBO: Complain away :) | 04:11 |
| RAOF | I'd also like to complain that people don't make 13" laptops I want to buy. | 04:12 |
| RAOF | Watch me: “People don't make 13" laptops that I want to buy! Grrrr!” | 04:13 |
| hicham | RAOF: the ones to XI2.h | 04:13 |
| hicham | RAOF: found a link, thanks | 04:14 |
| RAOF | hicham: Oh, you mean the multitouch patches? | 04:14 |
| hicham | RAOF: yes | 04:14 |
| RAOF | hicham: They're works-in-progress upstream. | 04:14 |
| hicham | RAOF: thanks, I am trying to build unity on fedora | 04:14 |
| hicham | so far so good | 04:15 |
| RAOF | Yeah. Both new shells use X protocol that's not upstream! | 04:15 |
| hicham | now I think I am at the last step | 04:15 |
| hicham | alls deps built | 04:16 |
| Omega | I've mentioned overlay-scrollbar on firefox's mailing list | 04:16 |
| Omega | and I'm talking to their ux team about it | 04:16 |
| DBO | RAOF, so here is my complaint | 04:16 |
| DBO | xcb deadlocks for no obvious reason | 04:16 |
| Omega | Who is actually in the design team that is on IRC? | 04:17 |
| * hicham liked overlay-scrollbars | 04:17 | |
| DBO | Omega, we have been sworn to secrecy to protect those responsible | 04:17 |
| Omega | I must hunt them down, one by one, and talk to them calmly! | 04:18 |
| RAOF | DBO: ISTR an xcb deadlock that should be fixed in the new libx11 upload. | 04:18 |
| RAOF | DBO: You're not doing something strange, like using threads or anything? :P | 04:18 |
| DBO | no threads | 04:19 |
| DBO | but several connections in one process | 04:19 |
| DBO | and if you fixed the xcb deadlock | 04:19 |
| Omega | But it'd really help if they could get in touch with firefox's ux team, or me, I'm in contact with them a lot. | 04:19 |
| DBO | I will gladly donate my ovaries | 04:19 |
| DBO | (I keep them in a jar) | 04:19 |
| RAOF | Are you doing anything explicity prohibited? Like, say, calling any X function at all in an error handler? | 04:20 |
| DBO | no | 04:20 |
| DBO | its so weird | 04:20 |
| DBO | like sometimes we'll get a situation where calling XGrabPointer just deadlocks in xcb_wait_for_reply | 04:20 |
| DBO | but if we call XSync before then | 04:20 |
| DBO | oh man | 04:20 |
| DBO | it works | 04:20 |
| DBO | WTF??? | 04:20 |
| RAOF | Funness! | 04:21 |
| DBO | yeah | 04:21 |
| DBO | having your window manager deadlock is AWESOME | 04:21 |
| DBO | RAOF, do you have any info on the deadlock fix | 04:22 |
| DBO | I would love to look | 04:22 |
| Omega | solution: call XSync before every function | 04:22 |
| DBO | sometimes that will fail though! | 04:22 |
| DBO | its *retarded* | 04:22 |
| DBO | xcb should be cast back to the hellish pit it came from | 04:22 |
| * DBO pokes RAOF | 04:27 | |
| * RAOF is looking, and eating lunch. | 04:27 | |
| DBO | lunch? | 04:27 |
| DBO | its 23:30 at night man | 04:27 |
| DBO | why would you be eating lunch | 04:28 |
| RAOF | Hm. We've got the libx11 that the fix is in (1.4.2) | 04:29 |
| RAOF | I come from the future, where it's 1:30pm | 04:29 |
| DBO | no, all times are the same | 04:29 |
| DBO | RAOF, yes but do you have more details? | 04:31 |
| * Omega is in the same spacezone as DBO | 04:32 | |
| DBO | Omega, I subscribe to the flat earth theory, thus you are ALL in the same timezone | 04:33 |
| DBO | I do however believe the (flat) earth revolves around the sun | 04:33 |
| Omega | But you see, there is one thing you did not acocunt for, the sun revolves around me! | 04:34 |
| Omega | account* | 04:34 |
| DBO | Omega, blasphemy, I shall burn you ate the stake | 04:34 |
| DBO | prepare to be cooked, witch | 04:34 |
| Omega | hmmm, stake, delicious. | 04:34 |
| RAOF | DBO: Oh. The first was to drop the Display lock when calling the X error handler, the other was to ignore some locks | 04:35 |
| DBO | RAOF, bug reports... | 04:35 |
| DBO | or commit logs | 04:35 |
| hicham | arghh, dbusmenu is missing from the repos | 04:36 |
| RAOF | DBO: You're looking for http://cgit.freedesktop.org/xorg/lib/libX11/commit/?id=fd85aca7a616c595fc17b2520f84316a11e8906f | 04:38 |
| RAOF | Ahem. Let's put that in the right channel, shall we? | 04:38 |
| RAOF | DBO: Yeah, I didn't think you were using threads. That was the fix that I was thinking of, though, which clearly isn't a fix for your problem (because otherwise you wouldn't *have* your problem ☺) | 04:43 |
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| oSoMoN | good morning | 08:02 |
| MacSlow | good morning | 08:34 |
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| coz_ | good day al;l | 11:45 |
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| Omega | http://openmatt.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/how-to-work-open/ Maybe we can learn a few things from our friends at Mozilla :) | 12:56 |
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| Martiini | unity for opensuse - When ?? | 13:13 |
| Martiini | anyone use Twitter ?? | 13:16 |
| andrejz | Hello! I have a usability suggestion for unity | 13:19 |
| andrejz | When i go to applications dash 4 out of 5 recently used applications are also a part of my launcher on the left | 13:19 |
| andrejz | I think it would be better if apps, which are permanently on the launcher, don't appear in most commonly used | 13:20 |
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| apw | bug #700757 is marked as 'fixed' but I see no change in behaviour with todays bits | 14:52 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 700757 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "unity aborts when you plug in an external monitor" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/700757 | 14:52 |
| apw | plug a small monitor (1024x768) into a bog standard netbook and blammo unity dumps core, spitting out "Size too big width=2304height=1024" | 14:53 |
| jcastro | kamstrup: do you have the askubuntu place installed? | 14:53 |
| apw | i would point out that the machine ought to be about as supported a platform as exits, being an intel netbook | 14:53 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: I only think I have an olde copy lying around, but not running | 14:53 |
| jcastro | kamstrup: I am starting to have some startup issues with lenses, but I'm not sure if it's the lens or unity | 14:54 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: you mean speed wise or other? | 14:54 |
| jcastro | the daemons run and everything, just nothing displays, I have to go back and restart each daemon, and then restart unity | 14:54 |
| jcastro | so like when I log in at first | 14:54 |
| kamstrup | oh, that sound sodd | 14:54 |
| jcastro | my AU lens doesn't work | 14:54 |
| jcastro | but apps and files does | 14:54 |
| jcastro | FYI, ppa:askubuntu-tools/ppa | 14:55 |
| jcastro | I don't think we're doing anything different than before | 14:55 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: did this start happing with a recent upgrade? | 14:55 |
| jcastro | last week sometime | 14:55 |
| jcastro | I don't recall exactly when | 14:56 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: right, the only thing that has changed recently, afaik, is that Unity will try and keep the apps place on the top spot in the dash | 14:56 |
| jcastro | (which is great btw) | 14:56 |
| kamstrup | so it sounds like maybe a race which' result depends on whether the disk cache is warm or cold..? | 14:56 |
| jcastro | ok | 14:57 |
| jcastro | I'll see if I can at least find someone who can reproduce it | 14:57 |
| kamstrup | jcastro: kenvandine had a similar issue last week, but that was confined to a gwibber issue afair | 14:57 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, i fixed my memory issues | 14:58 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: zomg!?!?11one | 14:58 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, at least somewhat | 14:58 |
| kenvandine | it wasn't Dee related... just python bloat | 14:59 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: so what was the issue? | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | imports | 14:59 |
| kamstrup | wow | 14:59 |
| Saamm | how to fix this bug...I can't use firefox 4 in unity becoz of this --> Bug #751067 | 14:59 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 751067 in fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) "Colors are mangled in Natty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/751067 | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | importing gwibber.microblog.utils | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | apparently is huge | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, well, that was the virt mem | 14:59 |
| kenvandine | i shaved ~200M off virt | 14:59 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: right... should give a slight startup boost too I expect? | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | RSS was doing things multiple times | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | which i still kind of have a problem with | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | but i made it much better | 15:00 |
| kamstrup | sweet | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | RSS is now about 60M | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | i have to stop watching the active property though | 15:00 |
| kenvandine | i need to figure out how to make it refresh the data on both a section change and when it becomes active | 15:01 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: the "active" prop on Unity.PlaceEntryInfo? | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | without it doing both | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | yes | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | i was updating the data when active became true | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | but, if the section was also changing... it would update twice | 15:01 |
| kenvandine | because i also do that on section change | 15:02 |
| kamstrup | oh... I wonder if I do that too now you mention... | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | it's a problem... | 15:02 |
| kamstrup | yeah, there's something I don't like about the current protocol in this regard | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | i couldn't find a good way around it :/ | 15:02 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, if the AU lense starting watching for the active property to change, that could cause some problems | 15:03 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: you only need to reload data on active=true if you are "dirty" | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, last i looked it didn't | 15:03 |
| kenvandine | how can i tell if i am dirty? | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | that didn't sound good :) | 15:04 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: lol | 15:04 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: I just tricked you into saying that | 15:04 |
| kamstrup | ;-) | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | indeed | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | sneaky sneaky :) | 15:04 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: in the files place (or is it apps) I just have a bool that I keep around | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | ugh | 15:04 |
| kamstrup | yeah :-/ | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | i tried that | 15:04 |
| kenvandine | wasn't very reliably | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | the active and section change props seem to change irradically | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | not always in the same order | 15:05 |
| kamstrup | oh... | 15:05 |
| kenvandine | i can't say that for certain | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | but it sure seemed that way | 15:06 |
| kenvandine | it was very annoying | 15:06 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: yeah - you should have seen the 10.10 series... I had some *very* defensive coding in there because Unity was spamming the places :-) | 15:10 |
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| kenvandine | kamstrup, unrelated question | 15:12 |
| kenvandine | is there any way to sort the data in a model? | 15:13 |
| kenvandine | or do i have to clear and populate it again? | 15:13 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: you have to clear and populate I am afraid | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | would also be a nice feature :) | 15:14 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: yeah... sorting is a bit tricky for wire data like this | 15:14 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:14 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: possibly we could use the Dee.Filter API to define some sort of sorting API | 15:15 |
| kenvandine | it would be nice to change the order in the view side | 15:15 |
| kenvandine | so perhaps apply a filter to the model on the client side | 15:16 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: dee already ships with a collating filter that sorts on a string column according to the locale rules | 15:16 |
| kenvandine | ? | 15:16 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: exactly | 15:16 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: maybe dee could ship a set of "sorting rules" (implemented as DeeFilters) with canonical names and then you could remotely tell a DeeSharedModel which sorting it should apply or something | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | yeah | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | that might do it | 15:17 |
| kenvandine | i want to be able to sort by time | 15:18 |
| apw | what priority should bugs wherein unity core dumps be | 15:18 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: in DBus ala Sort(in u col_index, in s sort_name) | 15:18 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, common problem for gwibber, the time column will come from twitter, facebook, etc... but will be appended as the results come from each service | 15:19 |
| kamstrup | apw: depends on how user visible it is | 15:19 |
| apw | happens when you plug in an external monitor on intel atom netbooks | 15:19 |
| apw | should make UDS fun | 15:20 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: right, that works well if you put each sub-resultset in a group, but if you put them under the same group you currently have to collect all results on the daemon side, sort them, and then add them | 15:20 |
| kamstrup | apw: hehe, have you checked for dupes? I think I recal a report ala what you mention... then again, maybe my mind is just still in weekend mode :-) | 15:21 |
| apw | kamstrup, yep, that was mine, which was closed fix released :/ but its still there exatly the same | 15:22 |
| apw | starting to think the unity team needs to test h/w which isn't apple | 15:22 |
| apw | perhaps we can get somthing really cheap for yas | 15:23 |
| kamstrup | apw: lol, I knew I saw it somewhere :-D only few use apple products for hacking on dx | 15:23 |
| apw | :) | 15:23 |
| apw | but i think if we get to UDS an noones netbooks will let a projector plug in ... we are going to get a slapping! | 15:24 |
| kamstrup | apw: but if you still see it, just reopen and state the case. There are quite a few DXers with multimonitor setups so rest assuered it's a priority :-) It's just that there are *many* priorities right now :-) | 15:24 |
| apw | heh of that i am very sure :) | 15:24 |
| kamstrup | apw: hehe, if it comes down to that on UDS I am pretty sure someone will sit down and write the patch on the spot :-) | 15:25 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, the biggest problem i have with reordering the data in the daemon and adding it again is all the row-added signals... lots of spam and then the client gets lots of churn | 15:25 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: as long as you do the workout without entering the mainloop dee will batch all the transformations into one Commit() on the bus | 15:26 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: so the row-added signals is only a local thing in each process | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | not so bad i guess | 15:26 |
| kenvandine | still a whole new set of data | 15:26 |
| kamstrup | yes :-/ | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | ok | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | is this something that could happen for oneiric? | 15:27 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: ok, I am adding this to my list of things in the Unity API we need to fix | 15:27 |
| kenvandine | or should i not get my hopes up? | 15:27 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: oh wait... | 15:29 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: why can't you just do a sorted model.insert()? | 15:29 |
| kenvandine | on the daemon side? | 15:30 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: yes | 15:30 |
| kenvandine | i'd have to get the iter to insert after right? | 15:30 |
| * kenvandine hadn't even seen the insert api... just prepend/append | 15:30 | |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: that is most efficient I guess, but you can also insert by offset | 15:30 |
| * kenvandine doesn't like offsets | 15:31 | |
| kenvandine | i also haven't looked at how you do lookups | 15:31 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: you can either just traverse the row iters until you find what you need, or you can use Dee.FilterModels or Dee.Indexes | 15:32 |
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| kamstrup | depends a bit what you need | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, guess i'll have to play around... that could be tricky if i want to insert it in the right place based on timestamp | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | or ticks | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | iterate over them all until it is no long < | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | then insert after -1 | 15:33 |
| kenvandine | i guess | 15:33 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: yeah | 15:34 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, should that be fast? | 15:34 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: well, fairly fast, but you're still doing linear inserts of course, but not too bad unless your models grow very big | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | define "very" | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | ? | 15:35 |
| kenvandine | 100s of thousands of rows? | 15:36 |
| kenvandine | or millions? | 15:36 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: i guess "very" depends on target hardware and your latency and cpu time restrictions | 15:36 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: but a good guess would be below 500 don't worry | 15:37 |
| kenvandine | it'll always be over that | 15:37 |
| kamstrup | and then 500 < N < 5k, test it | 15:37 |
| kamstrup | and then > 5k worry | 15:37 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: it was a long standing plan that one could use Dee.Index for this, but I just never got around to it this cycle | 15:39 |
| kenvandine | understand | 15:39 |
| lamalex | om26er, cdbs good day | 15:46 |
| om26er | lamalex, hey there. | 15:46 |
| cdbs | lamalex: Howdy! good morning | 15:47 |
| lamalex | om26er, cdbs can either of you get this to happen? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/749940 | 15:48 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 749940 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity application launcher does not hide when firefox is full screen and desktop is switched" [Low,New] | 15:48 |
| * cdbs checksz | 15:49 | |
| om26er | lamalex, dodge active window is not the default option btw, so could be specific to it only | 15:50 |
| om26er | as the reporter is using it | 15:50 |
| lamalex | yeah i know i changed my hide behavior | 15:50 |
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| cdbs | lamalex: I managed to reproduce it | 15:51 |
| cdbs | lamalex: though in a slightly different way | 15:51 |
| * cdbs comments | 15:53 | |
| lamalex | cdbs, and that is..? | 15:54 |
| cdbs | lamalex: see my comment, can you reproduce that way? | 15:54 |
| apw | does anyone know if there is any way to ask banshee to exit once it is started from the indicator menu ? | 15:57 |
| lamalex | cdbs, got it | 15:57 |
| lamalex | thanks | 15:57 |
| lamalex | apw, i think mpt just filed a bug on that | 15:57 |
| apw | and banshee is the default now right, i can remove rhythm box ? | 15:57 |
| cdbs | apw: yes you can | 15:58 |
| Daekdroom | You could remove banshee too if you don't like it. | 15:59 |
| cdbs | Oh, is that a list of upgrades? :( | 16:05 |
| * cdbs 'll have to wait for Unity to upgrade before he could get down to bugs | 16:05 | |
| kenvandine | sladen, is the scrollbar supposed to look different in gnome-terminal now? | 16:09 |
| kenvandine | sladen, the changelog says add dark theming to tweak around resize grip | 16:10 |
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| Daekdroom | kenvandine, it's black now | 16:10 |
| kenvandine | but it seems pretty weird to make it look different than everything else | 16:10 |
| apw | when _does_ the day in the date time widget get updated? it seem to stay as the day it was when i suspended until about midday and then change | 16:10 |
| Daekdroom | It doesn't, because the whole gnome-terminal is black & purple, except for the white-silver scrollbar. | 16:11 |
| Daekdroom | But I wish they used black instead of silver in quite a few other apps, like they were testing in maverick | 16:11 |
| sladen | kenvandine: I asked Cimi about this; it's something to do with the Gtk+ patch not picking it up because it's not a GtkScrolledWindow | 16:13 |
| sladen | kenvandine: and not actually related to the theme AFAIK | 16:13 |
| kenvandine | humm, weird that it just changed in today's upload | 16:14 |
| lamalex | JohnLea, know if this was fixed? https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/750471 | 16:16 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 750471 in unity (Ubuntu) "Ensure Unity prioritises icon loading from Unity-icon-theme" [Undecided,New] | 16:16 |
| om26er | smspillaz|z, what exactly do you mean by 'terminal output' ? | 16:24 |
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| apw | gawd, has anyone tried actually moving windows from one monitor to another in unity? half the time it complely mangles the window | 16:54 |
| coz_ | apw, I did when I had it i nstalled on this system with dual monitors | 16:55 |
| coz_ | apw, I have nvidia | 16:55 |
| coz_ | apw, it worked fine | 16:55 |
| coz_ | apw, although I have it installed on single monitor system now | 16:56 |
| apw | hmmm, not very well on intel graphics | 16:56 |
| cdbs | lamalex: Please reopen the Unity bug task and set it to Triaged in bug #726033 . | 16:59 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 726033 in unity (Ubuntu) "does not display icons until hovered" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/726033 | 16:59 |
| coz_ | apw, ah I am not up on intel issues ,, although I did hear there was a bug that popped up erors every 10 seconds about the cpu temp even though it wasnt hot and that's all I know about it | 16:59 |
| lamalex | cdbs, done | 17:05 |
| cdbs | lamalex: thanks | 17:05 |
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| apw | coz_, ok i can reproduce the same kind of 'wipping' behaviour by grabbing the title bar of a window and ramming it onto the title bar ... then sliding left and right, the window decorations dissappear and the window gets erased at the edges | 17:12 |
| hicham | any unity devs in here ? | 17:12 |
| coz_ | apw, yikes,, that sounds painful to visualize | 17:13 |
| coz_ | hicham, I believe this is the place,,, not sure who is actually at their systems however | 17:13 |
| hicham | coz_ : I am just trying to figure out how to override some default stuff when building/installing | 17:14 |
| apw | coz_, yeah grab a non-full screen window and slide up till you hit the top of the screen; as the cursor enters the menu bar the decorations go and then slide left and right (all holding the click) and you'll lose the edges of the window | 17:14 |
| coz_ | hicham, I would stick around here and also log onto #ubuntu+1 | 17:14 |
| apw | normal service is restored when the cursor exits the global menu panel | 17:15 |
| coz_ | apw, wait ,, moving a window to the sides or center or bottom edge might be kicking in the windows like thing where they maximize in a certain way | 17:15 |
| apw | coz_, yeah the action would trigger maximise when i let go, but as i haven't done that, but during the time the cursor is in the menu bar the main window is not updated correctly | 17:16 |
| hicham | coz_: thanks | 17:17 |
| coz_ | apw, ooo mm you may want to speak with smspillaz|z about this then | 17:17 |
| * apw files a bug | 17:18 | |
| apw | bug #757714 | 17:22 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 757714 in unity (Ubuntu) "when moving a window and the cursor enters the global menu the window is no longer updated correctly" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/757714 | 17:22 |
| apw | i assume we know that none of libre office is using the global menubar ? | 17:25 |
| Daekdroom | apw, there's a package available. | 17:28 |
| Daekdroom | But not default yet because of bugs. | 17:28 |
| apw | ok will ignore that | 17:29 |
| apw | does anyone know if we expect the main text window in xchat to not get the new menubar | 17:42 |
| Daekdroom | menubar? the menubar is showing up in the panel in here, as expected. | 17:42 |
| Daekdroom | If you're talking about the scrollbar, it isn't working in a lot of places. | 17:43 |
| apw | i maent scrollbar, doh | 17:44 |
| apw | ok# | 17:44 |
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| om26er | lamalex, Hey! I have not done triage today, been helping Sam debug the invisible window thingy. Still on. | 18:37 |
| pasjr | I need a Unity Expert | 19:02 |
| DBO | tremolux, you here? | 19:03 |
| pasjr | ?? | 19:04 |
| tremolux | DBO: yep, heya, what's up? | 19:04 |
| DBO | sure | 19:04 |
| DBO | whats up pasjr | 19:04 |
| DBO | tremolux, sorry I meant to ping someone whose not here and you got tab completed | 19:04 |
| DBO | my mistake | 19:04 |
| tremolux | ah, no problemo :) | 19:04 |
| pasjr | I have always been good a tweaking Ubuntu, but I can not find the file to change the colors for the launcher bar in 11.04 can you help? | 19:05 |
| DBO | you cant change the launcher bar colors without recompiling pasjr | 19:06 |
| DBO | its hardcoded | 19:06 |
| pasjr | I understand that but there is a file with that info is there not? | 19:06 |
| Daekdroom | afaik, the color is picked up from the icon itself | 19:08 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, clearing the model in python isn't freeing memory | 19:08 |
| pasjr | ??? | 19:09 |
| DBO | pasjr, sorry | 19:09 |
| DBO | pasjr, the colors for the launcher background are in Launcher.cpp | 19:09 |
| pasjr | Thanks | 19:10 |
| DBO | launcher icon colors are determined in LauncherIcon.cpp | 19:10 |
| pasjr | Any clue what folder that file is in? My system cant find it. | 19:11 |
| lamalex | om26er, cdbs when you guys triage autohide bugs, could you tag them with autohide? | 19:21 |
| om26er | ai ai sir | 19:21 |
| lamalex | thanks | 19:21 |
| lamalex | i've got a hunch that autohide is one of our buggiest areas | 19:21 |
| lamalex | want to see how many autohide related bugs are just in the new queue | 19:22 |
| lamalex | cdbs, are you triaging? | 19:24 |
| om26er | lamalex, seems like a problem with qt drag n drop has rose | 19:26 |
| om26er | launcher does not hide after that | 19:30 |
| zniavre | good evening | 19:37 |
| zniavre | after an update (few mns ago) the launcher looks empty but it is still working icons are not visible > http://i.imgur.com/AHsPn.png < i hope this is already known | 19:39 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: I just plugged a pretty hefty leak in Dee, https://code.launchpad.net/~kamstrup/dee/commit-transaction-leaks/+merge/57219, but I don't think that's what you are seeing since this one was only on the receiving end... | 20:09 |
| kenvandine | i can check though | 20:10 |
| bcurtiswx | if i remove the home icon on the launcher, how do I get it back? | 20:10 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, basically everytime i do a clear and append the memory usage grows | 20:11 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, and it never goes down | 20:11 |
| bcurtiswx | append come after clear normally? i'd think you'd start fresh after a clear? | 20:11 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: the most likely problem is that pygi somehow keeps a ref around on the gvariants stored in the row | 20:12 |
| kenvandine | bcurtiswx, basically empty all the data then append | 20:13 |
| kamstrup | kenvandine: as this is definitely not something we see in C. I just did a ~30min torture run adding 1000 rows and calling clear() each second | 20:13 |
| kamstrup | no leaks at all | 20:13 |
| kenvandine | kamstrup, ok | 20:13 |
| * kamstrup gotta run | 20:13 | |
| bcurtiswx | so my original question, if i remove the home icon from launcher, how do I go about getting that back ? | 20:14 |
| zniavre | bcurtiswx, maybe via dconf-editor ? | 20:16 |
| nhaines | If I wanted to try to fix bug 740515, where should I start looking? | 20:18 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 740515 in unity (Ubuntu) "Window controls in Unity panel do not extend to top of display" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740515 | 20:18 |
| bcurtiswx | hmm, i don't have dconf-editor nor dconf | 20:24 |
| zniavre | install dconf-tools | 20:24 |
| htorque | bcurtiswx, you can either reset the launcher favorite list using 'unity --reset-icons' or use dconf-editor to add 'user-home.desktop' to the favorite list (desktop → unity → launcher → favorites) | 20:28 |
| bcurtiswx | htorque, zniavre much thanks :) | 20:29 |
| htorque | both suboptimal solutions imo | 20:29 |
| htorque | yw :-) | 20:29 |
| zniavre | htorque, good evening do yu ahv any idea about my worrie > http://i.imgur.com/AHsPn.png < icons are missing in the launcher | 20:30 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, the au lens also seems to suffer from the same leak | 20:31 |
| zniavre | you hav * | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | but on a much lower scale | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | smaller data set | 20:31 |
| kenvandine | no clue how to track down memory leaks in GI | 20:32 |
| htorque_ | bcurtiswx: sorry, the .desktop file is nautilus-home.desktop (user-home is the icon :)) | 20:32 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: I can't even get my lens to run on login | 20:33 |
| jcastro | only when I run it by hand | 20:33 |
| kenvandine | really? | 20:33 |
| kenvandine | weird | 20:33 |
| kenvandine | working here | 20:33 |
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| jcastro | kenvandine: with the ppa and everything up to date? | 20:34 |
| hicham | no luck with unity | 20:34 |
| hicham | everything is built but when enabling unity from ccsm it crashes | 20:34 |
| hicham | any debugging hints ? | 20:34 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, yes | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | well | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | i was running an old version actually | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | i just updated it and killed the daemon | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | unity restarted it automatically | 20:35 |
| hicham | which daemon ? | 20:35 |
| jcastro | ok | 20:35 |
| jcastro | next time you login fresh | 20:35 |
| jcastro | try the lens | 20:35 |
| jcastro | and tell me if it loads | 20:35 |
| kenvandine | hicham, the askubuntu lens | 20:36 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, i'll try in a moment | 20:36 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: it's been killing me all week, lmk if you find anything | 20:37 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, reproduced | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | i had the same problem in gwibber | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | let me try to fix this for you :) | 20:38 |
| jcastro | oooh | 20:38 |
| jcastro | I hope you have a fix. :) | 20:38 |
| kenvandine | i fixed it a couple weeks again in the gwibber lens | 20:38 |
| * hicham was hoping for some debugging help :( | 20:41 | |
| didrocks | hicham: there is a bug we know about, it's very demanding for fixes all the over the place, we'll try to tackle it for next release | 20:42 |
| nhaines | jcastro: you should help me champion bug 740515. :) | 20:42 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 740515 in unity (Ubuntu) "Window controls in Unity panel do not extend to top of display" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740515 | 20:42 |
| jcastro | whoa, never noticed that before | 20:43 |
| jcastro | nice catch! | 20:43 |
| nhaines | yay | 20:43 |
| nhaines | jcastro: it's slowly been driving me crazy. :) | 20:44 |
| zniavre | bug 757990 | 20:54 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 757990 in unity (Ubuntu) "missing but working icons in unity-launcher" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/757990 | 20:54 |
| jcastro | kenvandine: any luck? | 20:56 |
| kenvandine | not yet | 20:56 |
| kenvandine | looking through my commits, it looks like my fix was to make initiallizing the gwibber connection handle errors | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | i guess the problem was the daemon didn't start quick enough | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | in the case of failures | 20:57 |
| kenvandine | i don't see where that would be a problem for AU though | 20:58 |
| lamalex | cdbs, seriously- when you touch bugs you need to update their statuses | 21:01 |
| lamalex | when you touch a bug, get it out of the new queue | 21:01 |
| didrocks | lamalex: btw, there are a lot of people answering when you set a bug to incomplete and they are starting expiring | 21:10 |
| lamalex | ugh i think my bugmail is screwed again | 21:14 |
| lamalex | thanks didrocks | 21:14 |
| didrocks | yw :) | 21:14 |
| Daekdroom | Huh oh. | 21:15 |
| Daekdroom | When starting unity from tty, appmenu doesn't work | 21:16 |
| Daekdroom | I can only make it work when starting it within X. | 21:16 |
| LLStarks | didrocks, that bamf bug may not have been squashed. still getting bamf crashes and duplicated launcher icons. | 21:20 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: the duplicated icons aren't fixed. bamf crash is interesting to know if it's with the latest version | 21:21 |
| jcastro | seiflotfy: around? | 21:25 |
| jcastro | seiflotfy: this guy on the ayatana list came up with the best name ever for the "people place" | 21:26 |
| jcastro | "contact lens" hahaha | 21:26 |
| nhaines | hahaha | 21:27 |
| lamalex | hah | 21:32 |
| lamalex | what a zinger | 21:32 |
| LLStarks | didrocks, aren't the two issues related. everything seems fine until the first bamf crash. | 21:39 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: no, the duplicated issue is because bamf is restarted | 21:39 |
| LLStarks | ah. | 21:39 |
| didrocks | that happens even if you kill the daemon | 21:39 |
| didrocks | the first crash has to be confirmed with the latest update (today's) | 21:40 |
| LLStarks | i have. | 21:40 |
| LLStarks | still not sure what prompts the crash. | 21:40 |
| LLStarks | maybe i should write a snippit that instructs unity not to panic if bamfdaemon crashes or is killed. | 21:41 |
| LLStarks | the icon duplication is exponential with each crash | 21:42 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: did you report the crash with apport? | 21:42 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: yeah, as I told, everytime bamf crashes we have issues reconnecting the dots, but it's not linked to the crash | 21:42 |
| LLStarks | lemme restart and magic up a crash for apport. | 21:42 |
| LLStarks | should i collect to an existing bug or make a new one? | 21:43 |
| didrocks | LLStarks: just subscribe me to it (if you really restart unity since the update already to ensure you have libbamf) :) | 21:47 |
| hicham | is it is necessary to have bamf-daemon ? | 21:50 |
| didrocks | hicham: it's what matches the apps in your system | 21:53 |
| hicham | didrocks: unity can't run without it ? | 21:54 |
| didrocks | hicham: yeah, you will have no match. why do you want to run without it? | 21:55 |
| kenvandine | jcastro, well unity is complainging that the SectionsModel isn't a Dee Model | 22:01 |
| kenvandine | s/complainging/complaining | 22:01 |
| kenvandine | :) | 22:01 |
| soreau | didrocks: Have you actually done any rocks before? Or didroaches just sounded too bad | 22:02 |
| didrocks | soreau: "didier roche" seems hard to pronounce for english people, hence the nickname :) | 22:04 |
| soreau | Damn english people don't even know how to use their own language | 22:05 |
| soreau | didrocks: I've always wanted to know, now I shall wonder no longer ;) | 22:05 |
| didrocks | soreau: heh! :-) | 22:06 |
| lamalex | soreau, i don't think any english person's own language is french :P | 22:06 |
| soreau | meh, you missed it | 22:07 |
| lamalex | too many rocks i guess | 22:08 |
| soreau | xD | 22:08 |
| hicham | didrocks: I am just trying to figure out what is missing | 22:09 |
| didrocks | hicham: hum, missing for what? can you explain? | 22:09 |
| soreau | hicham: probably ubuntu :P | 22:09 |
| hicham | didrocks: I just built unity on fedora, but it crashes compiz whenever I try to enable it from ccsm | 22:10 |
| hicham | soreau: :) | 22:10 |
| LLStarks | is there any quick and easy way to make bamfdaemon crash> | 22:10 |
| LLStarks | btw, digging the new left-side launcher behavior | 22:10 |
| ion | killall -SEGV bamfdaemon | 22:10 |
| didrocks | hicham: it shouldn't crash though, but enabling/disabling is an issue we are aware of | 22:11 |
| soreau | hicham: Did you try enabling crahhandler to get a backtrace (after installing debug symbols)? | 22:11 |
| hicham | didrocks: how should it be started ? | 22:13 |
| hicham | soreau: I am rebuilding the plugins | 22:13 |
| didrocks | hicham: it's dbus activated | 22:13 |
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| hicham | so compiz-plugins-extra is required for unity to run ? | 22:20 |
| didrocks | hicham: no, we even don't install it by default in ubuntu | 22:21 |
| cyphermox | sladen, ping? | 22:21 |
| hicham | didrocks: I am following the INSTALL file in unity tarball | 22:21 |
| didrocks | hicham: hum, it should be updated then, not sure who putted it there :) | 22:22 |
| didrocks | hicham: but extra isn't needed | 22:22 |
| didrocks | hicham: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28470/how-do-i-build-unity-from-source/28472#28472 | 22:23 |
| hicham | didrocks: I already built it :) | 22:23 |
| didrocks | hicham: this is just nux/unity, but you can see the build-dep | 22:23 |
| sladen | cyphermox: ? | 22:23 |
| hicham | didrocks: I built the whole dep chain | 22:24 |
| hicham | didrocks: took me two days | 22:24 |
| didrocks | hicham: oh already? nice! :-) | 22:24 |
| hicham | didrocks: but it is crashing :( | 22:24 |
| didrocks | hicham: on ccsm enabling/disabling or once started, it's ok? | 22:25 |
| sladen | cyphermox: pong | 22:25 |
| hicham | didrocks: I enable it from ccsm | 22:25 |
| hicham | didrocks: is there any other way ? | 22:25 |
| cyphermox | sladen, the icons in ubuntu-mono status/16 seems to be scaled differently than 16x16, this has gdk_pixbuf_composite fail here for nm-applet | 22:25 |
| didrocks | hicham: well, we use a dedicate profile, in ubuntu, but it's basically the same | 22:26 |
| didrocks | hicham: if you enable it, it should be ok. It's when you disable it that it can crash | 22:26 |
| cyphermox | sladen, that's specifically the nm-signal* icons | 22:26 |
| hicham | didrocks: it crashes when I enable it | 22:26 |
| didrocks | hicham: do you have our compiz patches? | 22:26 |
| hicham | didrocks: I have latest compiz-git, which I believe have the necessary fixes | 22:27 |
| didrocks | hicham: yeah, it should | 22:27 |
| hicham | didrocks: or it isn't ? | 22:27 |
| didrocks | hicham: no, 0.9.4 has the glibmm branch we needed | 22:27 |
| didrocks | hicham: report a stacktrace with debug symbols then :( | 22:27 |
| sladen | cyphermox: -> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mono/+filebug before it gets lots | 22:29 |
| sladen | cyphermox: -> http://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-mono/+filebug before it gets lost | 22:29 |
| hicham | didrocks: via crashhandler plugin ? | 22:29 |
| didrocks | hicham: no, just run compiz on a tty under gdb | 22:29 |
| sladen | cyphermox: (first report I've had so don't think there's a dup yet to point you to) | 22:29 |
| cyphermox | sladen, yes, no problem | 22:29 |
| cyphermox | precisely, this is related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager-applet/+bug/753442 | 22:30 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 753442 in network-manager-applet (Ubuntu) "GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL errors in .xsession-errors" [High,In progress] | 22:30 |
| cyphermox | sladen, bug 758116 | 22:36 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 758116 in ubuntu-mono (Ubuntu) "nm-signal icons from status/16 scaled to bigger than 16x16" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758116 | 22:36 |
| sladen | cyphermox: is that as a result of the composition script, or is NM doing the overlaying? | 22:39 |
| hicham | didrocks: do I have to run compiz from another console than the one I am using ? | 22:40 |
| cyphermox | sladen, no, NM also does compositing in its non-indicator form | 22:40 |
| didrocks | hicham: if you want to run it under gdb, right, as the crash will freeze the screen :) | 22:40 |
| hicham | didrocks: how ? | 22:41 |
| hicham | didrocks: do I need to export the display then run it ? | 22:41 |
| didrocks | hicham: yeah | 22:41 |
| didrocks | hicham: export DISPLAY=:0 | 22:41 |
| didrocks | gdb compiz | 22:41 |
| didrocks | run --replace | 22:41 |
| didrocks | in a tty | 22:41 |
| hicham | didrocks: it crashes in utouch-geis | 23:05 |
| hicham | didrocks: http://fpaste.org/EVYL/ | 23:05 |
| didrocks | hicham: can you check if it's already reported and if not, report that to them? | 23:05 |
| hicham | didrocks: against utouch-geis ? | 23:06 |
| didrocks | hicham: yes :) | 23:07 |
| hicham | didrocks: ok, thanks | 23:07 |
| didrocks | hicham: thanks to you :) | 23:08 |
| hicham | didrocks: it is kinda depressing to spend two days packaging deps ( 7 ), plus unity's package which makes it 8, and end up on a crash :( | 23:10 |
| didrocks | hicham: well, you can deactive the unitymtgrabhandles plugin, it should avoid crashing on geis I think | 23:10 |
| didrocks | hicham: but better to check, it works fine on ubuntu, check the geis and grail version we have in natty | 23:11 |
| hicham | didrocks: unitymtgrabhandles isn't selected in ccsm | 23:12 |
| didrocks | hicham: ok, so it's the plugin adapater selecting it, but my remark on geis/grail still stands :) | 23:13 |
| hicham | didrocks: I have the same version as in natty | 23:13 |
| hicham | didrocks: 2.0.10 | 23:13 |
| didrocks | hicham: I'm not following the geis/grail development closely, better to go to #ubuntu-touch I think | 23:14 |
| hicham | didrocks: and same version of utouch-grail, 1.0.20 | 23:14 |
| hicham | didrocks: thanks for pointing me to the right channel | 23:14 |
| didrocks | hicham: yw :) | 23:14 |
| Daekdroom | ??static discharge | 23:31 |
| Daekdroom | Wrong channel :o | 23:31 |
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