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c2tarunapachelogger: ping03:24
c2tarunthis imagebin http://imagebin.org/147560  is of time when I was switching my workspace, why I am getting the options menu in b/w :/04:20
c2tarunRiddell: ^^04:20
c2tarun^^ Problem fixed on rebooting.04:46
valorieanybody else having problems with shutdown in 4.6.2?05:13
valorieever since installing it, my laptop doesn't ever shut down05:13
ScottKvalorie: Fix was uploaded yesterday.05:13
valorieah, ok05:13
ScottKI'd wait until Tuesday to update though.05:14
valorieok05:14
ScottKBeta 2 freeze is in ~4 hours and so who knows what crap people are shoving in right now.05:14
valorieindeed05:14
c2taruncan anyone please look at this imagebin http://imagebin.org/147565 earlier I was getting something kind of menu while switching workspaces and now I am getting image or yakuake while switching workspaces :/05:45
c2tarun/s/or/of05:48
c2tarun/s/or/of/05:48
c2taruns/or/of/05:48
kubotuc2tarun meant: "/s/of/of/"05:48
c2tarun:/05:48
ScottKRiddell and apachelogger: I finally got motivated and uploade 4.5.5 to -proposed.  I would appreciate it if one of you would upload the language packs since you know all about the magic script (4.5.5 lang packs never got uploaded to the PPA, so I guess from ktown).08:16
ScottKBug #75706508:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 757065 in oxygen-icons (Ubuntu) "Tracking bug for SRU update of KDE to 4.5.5 in Maverick" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75706508:16
c2tarunScottK: what is -proposed? and by language pack do you mean kde-l10n?08:23
ScottKYes.08:23
ScottKIt's the archive pocket for testing post release changes before they are released for all users in -updates.08:24
c2tarunScottK: I packed it for maverick 4.6.2, may be I can do it for 4.5.5 as welll08:24
ScottKc2tarun: No.  I need someone who has upload rights to the main Ubuntu archive to do it.08:25
ScottKThanks for offering though.08:25
c2tarunScottK: oh.. :) np08:26
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bambeemorning09:24
bambeeIs there a way to be sure that an e-mail is not a fake ? (without gpg signing)09:40
valoriebambee, do you know how to read email headers?09:52
valorieif you have a bunch from the person, and can compare, that is pretty good, I would say09:52
bambeevalorie: I can save it as ".eml" from my e-mails client and read the header09:54
bambee(correct me If I am wrong)09:54
valoriesad -- you used to just be able to do a key combo, and see them all09:55
valoriein kmail too09:55
valoriebut kmail doesn't work for me anymore09:55
valorie:(09:55
bambeeI use thunderbird09:56
* bambee hides09:56
valorieheh09:56
valorieI used to use Mozilla09:56
valorieuntil it lost like 9 months of my mail09:57
bambeeo_O09:57
valorieyeah09:59
valoriefrom then on I went to IMAP on our own server09:59
debfxbambee: just press ctrl+u if you want to see the headers10:01
bambeedebfx: thanks10:01
valoriethat's the bit, yeah10:02
debfxagateau: I've filed and fixed bug #755537 in Ubuntu. Hopefully my bug description is accurate enough so you can fix it easily upstream.10:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 755537 in Plasma Widget Message Indicator "Indicator icon turns green when clicking on it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75553710:05
agateaudebfx: interesting, I can't reproduce the bug, though. do you run the applet in the systemtray or standalone?10:07
dpmapachelogger, around? I'm adding a short description about the UADW sessions today. Do you want me to say something in particular about your session on plasma widgets?10:07
debfxagateau: standalone but I can only reliably reproduce it in plasmoidviewer10:09
Riddellhappy beta freeze10:10
bambeeagateau: on my desktop (at home) I can reproduce it when the applet runs in the systemtray... at least I reproduced it few days ago... I did not try recently10:12
debfxapachelogger: I've uploaded kde4libs now, it would still be good if you could have a look at it10:13
apacheloggerit is surprising how many stupid people you can meet in only 2 hours10:19
apacheloggerdebfx: the patch is goody10:19
apacheloggeralthough I am a bit concerned that it does a qstring compare10:20
apacheloggermaybe the patch should be dropped :P10:20
bambeevalorie: "Authentification-Results" looks good (apparently I need to check it), it's not a fake... wow... o_O10:20
apacheloggerdpm: let me get more coffee and I'll tell you :)10:22
dpmapachelogger, no worries, take your time :)10:25
apacheloggerdpm: Plasma is the shell of the KDE Software Collection and available for many different form factors, it is almost entirely built out of widgets. Harald will show you how to create such amazing widgets, with surprisingly little code, to enrich your desktop experience and maybe even share with others.10:38
apacheloggerhow is that?10:38
valoriebambee -- as I recall, it is up to the mail server whether or not that is worthwhile or not10:40
valoriehaven't discussed it with my son recently, since we don't have mail set up on our server now10:40
valoriesince kmail doesn't work, there didn't seem much point10:41
bambeevalorie: so it's not really a proof ?10:49
dpmapachelogger, that sounds wonderful, thanks :)10:50
valorieI would do some research before trusting it, yes10:50
valorieunfortunately10:50
valorieperhaps some of the bigger ISPs have finally started doing authentication10:51
\shapachelogger: angeber ;)10:51
valoriewhich would be great10:51
valoriethey were not a couple of years ago10:51
apachelogger\sh: what did I do?10:51
apacheloggerthe description?10:51
\shapachelogger: yeah ;)10:52
valorieapachelogger: where did you find all the stupid people?10:52
apachelogger\sh: well, I am in management :P10:52
apacheloggerstuff needs to get sold ;)10:52
apacheloggervalorie: university10:52
\shapachelogger: hehe :) yes :) I know the management slang...it's disgusting ;)10:53
valoriethat's where the smart people hang out, I thought?10:53
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valoriethey put the stupid there, in Austria?10:53
\shnot only in austria...10:54
apachelogger\sh: lolz, you geeks are all the same :P10:54
valorieheh10:54
apacheloggervalorie: it is moron central really10:54
apacheloggerif you dont feel like working -> go to university10:54
valorieyou're destroying my faith in education!10:56
\shhow many IT students you need to write a good and valid timezone calculation? 10 and still the result is/will be always wrong...because they don't know what DST is *bhod*10:57
valorieactually, I have no faith in education10:57
valorieonly learning10:57
* apachelogger has no faith in DST10:57
* apachelogger supports the UTC everywhere movement10:57
apachelogger\sh, valorie: what widget should I make today?10:58
\shapachelogger: believe me, you will scream: Java Dev: "We are now in UTC+2, right?" Me: "No, we are not in UTC+2, we are still UTC+1" "But we have 10:00am, and UTC time is 08:00am, so we are" "No, fool, it's UTC+1 + DST" "What is DST?" "Bah, go away, you stink"10:59
* apachelogger giggles11:00
apacheloggerjava11:00
* apachelogger giggles some moar11:00
\shapachelogger: angry birds on plasma? or "Slice It on Plasma"? I'm addicted11:00
apacheloggerknock knock11:00
valorieI'm pretty sure your favorite is Where is my Pr0n?11:00
apacheloggerhmmm11:01
apachelogger\sh: no idea what the latter is11:01
valoriebut that presumably isn't suitable for a class11:01
\shapachelogger: andoird market -> search -> slice it11:01
apacheloggermeh11:01
apachelogger for angry birds the physics would take too long to work out11:02
apacheloggerthough generally possible with qml & plasma11:02
apacheloggervalorie: so you say :P11:02
\shapachelogger: then "rewrite" http://www.phoboslab.org/ztype/ in c++ or python, pls 11:03
* apachelogger only does jahavascript11:03
* apachelogger is a jahava witness11:03
valoriegah, brain has died11:07
valoriesleeeeep11:07
apacheloggerplasma active11:07
* apachelogger feels a slight PITA11:07
apacheloggervalorie: nini11:07
Peace-can't login anymore11:13
Peace-on natty11:13
Peace-no protocla specified11:13
Peace-protocol11:14
Peace-no protocol specified xinit giving up unable to connect to X server  connection refused11:19
apacheloggeranyone around for a bit of test0ring11:36
Peace-here11:38
Peace- damn i have just fixed my natty11:39
Peace-xD11:39
Peace-home full 11:39
Peace-= no login11:39
apacheloggerrun plasmaengineexplorer -> select notifcations in the drop down11:39
apacheloggerdo you see anything in the table below?11:39
apacheloggerPeace-: you did not get a notification about your filled up home last time you were logged in?11:40
Peace-yep but i was doing remastersys so  i have stopped 11:40
apacheloggerk11:41
Peace-and i have not checked how much space i left 11:41
Peace-rebotin i have thinked about that 11:41
Peace-xd11:41
apacheloggerwell, not logging when disk full without proper error message and the means to fix it sorta sux11:41
Peace-i got a strange error 11:42
Peace-like 11:42
Peace-no protocol specified 11:42
Peace-XD11:42
apacheloggerreport a bug plz11:42
Peace-then i have made ubuntu-bug X11:42
apacheloggerand take a look at the plasmaengineexplorer thing :P11:42
Peace-and i have got the message you home is full :P11:43
Peace-lucly i have my puppylinux :P11:43
* apachelogger thinks plasma dataengines are one big lie11:50
Peace-i have modified the init javascript 11:51
Peace-xD for plasma desktop11:52
Peace-so i get gnome style layout for panels11:52
Peace-o wow kpackagekit doens' have some dependences11:58
Peace-xD11:58
c2tarungood evening :)12:02
apacheloggerc2tarun: good afternoon :P12:03
c2tarunapachelogger: hey finally you replied :)12:03
apacheloggerI always reply12:04
apacheloggerI am the reply0r12:04
c2tarunapachelogger: only when you are around ;)12:04
apacheloggerfor obvious reasons :P12:04
c2tarunapachelogger: anyway u remember the project you suggested me (phonon for android)12:04
apacheloggeryes12:04
c2tarunapachelogger: I failed to get that into GSoC now I want to take it to SoK, but for preparing the report I need some information about technical details.12:05
c2tarunapachelogger: I dont have any experience with android and phonon, can you please suggest me where to start?12:05
apacheloggerc2tarun: get the android sdk, set it up, try to create some hello world app or similar12:07
c2tarunapachelogger: any reference documentation available on internet?12:08
apacheloggerandroid.com12:08
apacheloggerc2tarun: there is also google, you really should try google12:08
c2tarunapachelogger: ok, and what about phonon?12:08
apacheloggerthey actually made it a business to tell people whether there is documentatio and where to find it12:08
apacheloggerc2tarun: see phonon headers12:09
c2tarunheaders?12:09
apachelogger.h files12:09
apacheloggerhttp://www.cprogramming.com/tutorial/lesson1.html12:09
c2tarunapachelogger: okay.... I'll do my research, and please I'll ping again if I get stuck12:10
* apachelogger ponders using the photo of markey sleeping at his desk in his presentation ^^12:11
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Riddellooh kubuntu-mobile image works13:00
Riddellnot very well, but it works13:00
ScottKvalorie: What's the problem with kmail (it's working for me quite well)?13:38
ScottKRiddell: Did you see my ping for translation updates (4.5.5) for maverick?13:39
RiddellScottK: oh yes, I can add that to my todo13:39
ScottKThanks.13:39
ScottKI talked with pitti and we can probably do it tomorrow after the buildds have calmed down from the pre-beta2 rush.13:40
ScottKAnytime before then.13:40
Riddellhmm, no darkwingduck or nixternal to hassle about docs13:41
c2tarunwhat is the release date of beta2?13:48
Quintasan_Riddell: ping13:49
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ScottKc2tarun: Thursday.13:50
Riddellhi Quintasan 14:00
c2tarunRiddell: hi :) is there any work except testing?14:04
Riddellnot immediately14:06
jussi01mrgh, didnt read properlyt and upgraded... now no kde :( 14:09
Riddelljussi01: how did you upgrade?14:14
jussi01Riddell: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:14
Riddellug, don't do that, surely you've been around long enough to know that14:14
jussi01yeah, bit silly, force of habbit :(14:15
Riddellhmm, I'm getting kde uninstall on natty dist-upgrade too, I wonder what's causing it14:16
QuintasanRiddell: oh yeah, what am I supossed to put in https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-O ?14:16
* Quintasan just added Who goes, who will participate remotely and Specs sections14:17
RiddellQuintasan: whatever we should have sessions on at UDS14:17
ulyssesworld domination14:17
QuintasanRiddell: hmmm, and where do I take them from? Launchpad?14:18
* Quintasan can imagine we would want to cover some stuff on our Todo as well14:19
yofeltrue, aptitude wants to remove a whole bunch of stuff, yesterday it was only the translations14:19
danimohi14:21
yofel  kdelibs5-plugins: Depends: kdelibs5-data (= 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu3) but 4:4.6.2-0ubuntu2 is installed.14:22
Quintasandanimo: hello14:22
danimowho is working on the Qt Creator packages?14:22
Quintasanus14:22
Quintasandanimo: :)14:22
danimoQuintasan: anyone who feels particulary involved?14:22
Quintasandanimo: if it is urgent I can do it14:22
danimono, more of a general thing14:22
danimowe received a bug report: QTCREATORBUG-356114:23
danimohttp://bugreports.qt.nokia.com/browse/QTCREATORBUG-356114:23
danimo(it's quite old at some point)14:23
danimoat this point14:23
danimoI want to close it, because I don't think we can deliver a good expirience with the "nightly" packages, especially because they often require an up to date Qt14:24
danimothat is unless you guys have a better idea14:24
Quintasandanimo: hmm, we can incorporate it in Project Neon if you want nigthly packages14:25
Quintasanyofel, shadeslayer: ^14:25
danimoQuintasan: we do have nightly builds, but in a binary installer that comes with a snapshot of an up-to-date Qt version14:25
Quintasanoh14:25
QuintasanI see14:25
jussi01yofel: what can we do about it?14:25
danimoQuintasan: and there are other fancy things, like you need the private headers of the Qt version you build against14:26
QuintasanRiddell: ^14:26
danimoso the resulting binaries are tied to the specific creator version14:26
danimoerr, specific Qt version14:26
danimodoes project neon come with its own Qt?14:26
Quintasandanimo: we build kde-qt14:27
Quintasanin Project Neon14:27
danimo(the reason for requiring Qt internals is QML tooling, because some QML introspection has no exposed API)14:27
Quintasanyofel: could you request a Qt rebuild later for Neon?14:28
RiddellQuintasan: from all the kubuntu developers and contributors14:31
ScottKyofel and jussi01: Sound like archive skew and you're on amd64.  Just wait an hour or so, apt-get update, and try again.14:31
Quintasandanimo: I think I don't get something here. if you close it, what happens to the nightly installer and how's that relevant to us?14:32
danimoQuintasan: if I close it, I close it, nothing more14:32
danimoQuintasan: the question just was if it was a hard effort to automate it14:33
jussi01ScottK: ahh, thanks. I will do so14:33
Quintasandanimo: well, as I said, I think we could provide nightlies of qtcreator in Project Neon repository, in Project Neon we use kde-qt, is this enough for the nightlies?14:34
danimoQuintasan: do you know which version that currently is?14:34
danimoQuintasan: and if it installs private headers14:34
Quintasanhmmm14:35
Quintasanthe package version is 2+git20110326+r934-3314:35
Quintasanso it was built not so long ago14:35
danimowell, from which branch? 4.7? master?14:36
Quintasan>This is KDE’s copy of Qt, containing the latest release, plus patches for Qt that haven’t been accepted (yet) by Qt Software.14:36
debfxdanimo: we don't package the private qt headers14:36
danimobrb14:37
Quintasandanimo: so yeah, it should be the latest release14:37
Quintasandunno about private headers14:37
Quintasanbut I think we could easily modify our packaging so it installs them14:38
yofelQuintasan: why?14:38
Quintasanyofel: why new Qt build? To see if it still works :P14:38
yofelah, if it still builds?14:39
Quintasanno difference for me :P14:39
yofelnote that kde-qt is for *some* reason using 4.7.114:40
yofelthat's what qmake --version says at least14:40
yofelUsing Qt version 4.7.1 in /opt/project-neon/lib14:40
QuintasanI how's that bad?14:41
Quintasans/I/and14:42
yofeldanimo: was asking what version kde-qt wa14:42
yofel*was14:42
Quintasanwell, let's just wait for him to show up and tell us which version do we need14:43
QuintasanIn that I'll do my homework so I won't be wasting time14:44
yofelk, I'm off for lunch14:45
Quintasanyofel: Enjoy14:45
QuintasanRiddell: Can you append "Add specs to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-O" to the topic?14:47
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Lots to do https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Todo | beta 2 bugs http://goo.gl/HbXHe | Add specs to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Specs/UDS-O
QuintasanRiddell: Thanks14:57
QuintasanScottK: 4:4.5.85really4.5.5-0ubuntu1ppa1  <-- that's really good,14:57
ScottKSomeone accidentally uploaded to the wrong PPA.14:59
ScottKSo that one I understand, but I'm not going to put it in the main archive that way.14:59
QuintasanWell, putting it there like that would be baaad.15:00
bambeewiki is down ?15:01
bambeeapparently...15:02
QuintasanWiki is always down15:02
bambee:)15:02
Quintasanor throws 401 errors15:02
* Quintasan just got a brilliant idea15:07
* bambee is testing weblive... it rocks your socks !!!15:09
Quintasanyofel: Look at my ingenious idea! Problem: math exercises take a lot of space and I already I have filled over half of my 192 A4 pages. Solution: http://bit.ly/g6WXOs15:10
QuintasanWhy didn't it occur to me earlier?15:10
QuintasanThe most simple solutions are the best ones!15:12
ScottKDon't do your homework would be simplest.15:14
ScottKI don't recommend it though.15:14
QuintasanScottK: I don't do any homework except for Maths and Physics15:14
Quintasanwell, History sometimes but that's if I don't forget we have one.15:15
yofel^^15:32
bambeeQuintasan: another solution would be to use LaTeX :D15:33
yofelneon qt-kde rebuild triggered15:34
Quintasanbambee: >implying I can use LaTeX notation in my notebook :O15:34
bambeesince LaTeX rocks and was originaly designed for maths... it can help... but... you've to write your exercises on a computer xD15:34
yofelthat's overkill for homework15:34
Quintasanyofel: Thanks15:34
* yofel needs to learn latex one of these days though...15:34
yofelesp. since libreoffice is getting on my nerves...15:35
c2tarunsince I upgraded to kde4.6.2 my system never recovers from sleep mode. Is anyone else facing this problem?15:35
Riddelladding plasma-active to neon might be a good idea, give us something to put on http://community.kde.org/Plasma/Active/Installation15:36
* jussi01 hands yofel lyx ;)15:36
rbelemhi Riddell 15:38
yofelhm, worth a try I guess, thanks15:38
Riddellhi rbelem 15:39
rbelemRiddell, did you see the what i said to you some hours ago?15:40
Riddellrbelem: update of plasma mobile not feasable?15:41
Riddellrbelem: that's ok, kubuntu mobile loads fine for me today15:41
yofeldoes plasma-mobile need kde-workspace with GLES?15:41
rbelemRiddell, ok :-)15:41
yofeland what exactly is -active?15:41
rbelemRiddell, i really would like to see it in natty15:41
rbelem:'-(15:42
rbelemyofel, i think it works whiout gles15:42
Riddellyofel: it seems to be plasma-mobile getting extended to include plasma tablet, it's on various blogs on planetkde today15:42
yofelah, guess I should actually read my feeds these days...15:42
rbelemyofel, /j #active :-)15:43
yofelwell, kde:plasma-mobile builds with neon, although we obviously won't have armel builds15:44
yofelrbelem: are you guys purposely missing a /topic ? ^^15:44
rbelemyofel, i uploaded to revu the latest snapshot of plasma-mobile15:45
rbelemyofel, hum... should i guess? :-)15:46
yofelwell, if you want it I can add a neon build for it, as long as at least one person is actually going to try that15:48
rbelemyofel, i will15:48
yofelk15:49
ScottKRiddell: I'd be good with a post-beta 2 FFe for plasma-active as part of -mobile if someone can package it and see if it works.15:50
rbelemScottK, plasma-active is the same plasma-mobile, but with some changes in qml files15:51
RiddellScottK: rbelem tried to package it but it needs trunk kdelibs etc, 15:51
ScottKOK.15:51
ScottKAh.15:51
ScottKThat's a bit problematic then.15:52
ScottKneon sounds like a great place for it15:52
rbelemScottK, and it needs lots of backports :'( in kde-runtime and kdelibs15:52
* ScottK nods15:52
rbelemScottK, i pushed some branches caontaining the backports15:53
rbelemScottK, if you want to try... it is working but not 100%15:55
Riddellbambee: are you/did you backport that kget fix?15:57
bambeenot yet, Can I do it this evening ?15:58
bambee(for kdeplasma-addons and kdenetwork)15:58
bambee(I have imported two patches)15:58
Riddellbambee: sure, you'll need to file a bug with the debdiffs and subscribe the security team15:58
bambeeohh15:58
Riddellbambee: kdeplasma-addons doesn't need backport, just the kget issue because it's a security issue15:59
bambeeRiddell: ok15:59
ScottKRiddell: kget fix is in the 4.5.5 update I pushed for maverick-proposed.16:03
ScottK(security should still fix 4.5.1 in the mean time though)16:04
yofelrbelem: plasma-mobile needs a cmake check to make sure kde-workspace is installed, currently cmake is happy without it but the build fails16:04
debfxI've already filed bug #757526 for the kget issue16:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 757526 in kdenetwork (Ubuntu) "Updated fix for CVE-2010-1000" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75752616:05
RiddellScottK: you sure?  it was only committed two days ago16:05
ScottKRiddell: Yes. I added the patch myself before uploading.16:05
debfxwould be great if someone prepared debdiffs for karmic-maverick16:05
ScottKRiddell: I reviewed kde svn/git for all the packages for post-4.5.5 changes we needed.16:06
bambeedebfx: oh thanks :)16:06
RiddellScottK: groovy16:06
debfxapachelogger: what do you think about adding a X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Context key to desktop files in pkg-kde-tools? that way we only need to do one lookup in kdesktopfile16:07
ScottKRiddell: That last two things I checked because I thought maybe I ought to try and get them in before beta2 (k-d-s and kubuntu-meta updates) you did on Friday.  Thanks for being a step ahead of me.16:19
danimoQuintasan, yofel: back16:24
yofelrbelem: enjoy https://code.launchpad.net/~neon/+recipe/project-neon-plasma-mobile16:27
Riddellyofel: does it build and run?16:28
yofelbuild: yes, run: not tested yet16:29
yofeloh right, this week is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek for those that don't know yet, starting in 10 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom16:50
Riddellthanks yofel, just blogged http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/440616:54
danimoRiddell: any chance we can package Qt with private headers?16:55
danimoRiddell: or package Qt Creator to ship its own private Qt?16:56
Riddelldanimo: umm, doesn't that defeat the purpose of them bring private?16:56
danimoRiddell: (for neon)16:56
danimoRiddell: well, Creator needs them if you want QML tooling16:56
danimoRiddell: not a big fan either, trust me16:56
danimoRiddell: make it into an extra package if you will16:57
Riddellit does indeed.  well yes we probably could16:57
RiddellI don't have much to do with neon myself16:57
Riddellbut there's a crack team of packaging ninjas who do16:57
danimoRiddell: right, my problem exactly :)16:57
yofeldanimo: where are those headers?16:59
yofeldanimo: we can take the discussion to #project-neon too if you want17:00
rbelemthanks yofel  :-)17:01
danimook :)17:02
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bambeeRiddell: ping, I've to use 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu2.1 for maverick right ? (and not 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu2)18:45
Riddellbambee: what's the current version?18:52
Riddellbambee: looks like current version is 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu2.1 so we need a 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu2.218:53
bambeehttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kdenetwork => 4:4.5.1-0ubuntu2.1 18:53
bambeeRiddell: ok, thanks18:53
ari-tczewhey, I just updated my natty and there is a blank panel on the top of screen :/ do you have it?19:56
* ari-tczew is preparing a screenshot19:56
ari-tczewhttp://img853.imageshack.us/f/kde462.png/19:59
ari-tczewanybody knows how to avoid that blank panel?19:59
ulyssesI just run update19:59
ari-tczewulysses: update of what?20:00
ulyssesari-tczew: Natty20:02
ari-tczewulysses: do you have this blank panel?20:02
ulyssesI'll see in a minute, after the reboot20:02
ari-tczewyes, it was started after reboot20:03
ulyssesari-tczew: no extra panel20:05
ari-tczew:/20:06
ari-tczewulysses: do you know how to remove it?20:06
ulyssesright click, configure: panel -> remove panel?20:06
ari-tczewulysses: it's part of desktop :/20:09
ari-tczewnot stricte panel20:09
ulyssesuse a black tape20:09
ari-tczewin the right-up corner is Toolbox, not Panel tool box20:09
ari-tczewstrange20:10
bambeeOMG... I did not see harald's presentation about "Widgetcraft: The Art of Creating Plasma Widgets" ... (I totally forgot it)20:49
bambeeo_O20:49
bambees/presentation/talk/20:50
kubotubambee: You did something wrong... Try s/you/me/ or tell me "help sed"20:50
c2tarunwhat are virtual packages?\20:54
yofelbambee: there are logs anyway ^^20:55
bambeeyofel: I know, but It's always better in live :)21:04
=== rdieter is now known as rdieter_work
bambee'night22:24
ParkotronHello, I'm wondering who is responsible for packaging KDEGames in Kubuntu?22:31
apacheloggerParkotron: kubuntu22:35
RiddellParkotron: we're a team22:36
ParkotronAh. So there's no one in particular I should be bugging? :)22:37
Riddelldepends if you want to bug us to accept some champaign for doing such a great job22:37
apacheloggermhhh, booze22:39
yofelkubotu: order booze for apachelogger22:43
* kubotu slides booze down the bar to apachelogger22:43
effie_jayxapachelogger: that was a great talk earlier, I managed to get the code running, was lazy with my brackets being a python lova ;)22:46
apacheloggereffie_jayx: cool23:20
effie_jayxI wonder what kinda apps are cool for widgets though23:22
Riddellgosh we do attract some curious users http://paste.kde.org/10857/23:40
apacheloggerwell23:40
apacheloggerthere is a pink version23:40
Riddellooh good answer, I'll remind him about that23:42
* apachelogger giggles23:43
neversfeldehehe23:52
Blizzznice. Tragedy theme stuff rocks btw23:53
Blizzzapachelogger: neversfelde brought an idea into my mind: what about fluffy vampire edition? undying love and all that stuff, u know. wouldn't you let your DE bite you for eternal love and undead pinkness?23:56
* txwikinger is tired of natty's kernel panics23:56
* apachelogger finds the whole blood thing sexually appealing23:56
apacheloggerBlizzz: I do not see fluffy and vampire stuff together though23:57
valoriepink is just red with white23:57
* txwikinger wonders about apachelogger23:58
valorieand swishy capes23:58
valorieand according to some second-rate twilighters, vamps are sparkley!23:59
apacheloggerwhy is there a sailor at my door?23:59
valorierofl23:59
Blizzzwell, all young girls are about vampires, you know. and pink is their home, i guess. so why don't bring the, erm, best of both worlds together? isn't a pink canine gorgeous?23:59
valorieis he doing a strip-tease while pouring the champagne?23:59

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