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j05h_Hello.00:01
j05h_I'm Josh, and apparently so are several other people on Freenode.00:01
DarxusHi.00:01
j05h_Oh hi.00:01
j05h_So, while trying to register with launchpad.net to report an issue with Ubuntu, my registration email seems to actually be a forgotten password email.00:02
j05h_Or something like that.00:02
j05h_We've received a request to create a new account with your email address.00:02
j05h_If this was you, perhaps you've forgotten your password?00:02
j05h_No confirmation code given, thus no bug report filed.00:03
lifelessj05h_: that seems correctm whats wrong?00:08
j05h_The problem is that I was expecting a confirmation code to complete my registration, so I could file a bug report.00:08
j05h_Instead I got a link directing me to help with a lost password.00:08
lifelessright ... that means your email address is already on file as being used by a user00:09
lifelessso you should follow that link and recover your password [or log in if you knowyour password]00:10
lifelessnote that launchpad uses login.ubuntu.com under the covers00:10
lifelessso if you have an ubuntu one account, you should login with that00:10
j05h_I have absolutely never registered before.00:10
j05h_Oh.00:10
j05h_That would have been helpful to know.00:10
j05h_Maybe I overlooked it.00:10
j05h_I'm used to Windows, where everything is pretty obvious.00:11
lifelessthis is pretty unobvious00:11
lifelesswe have a bug open about it00:11
j05h_I just used my Ubuntu One login, and received the same email.00:12
lifelessj05h_: login here - https://login.ubuntu.com/00:12
j05h_Same problem.00:14
j05h_Would you like me to forward the email to you?00:14
j05h_I suspect it's the same 'forgot password' email that's sent to anyone, but I can send it if it's helpful.00:14
lifelesswhat do you see at https://login.ubuntu.com/ ?  a login form, or a 'Your account' page ?00:15
j05h_My account.00:15
lifelessthat says you are logged i00:15
lifelessin00:15
lifelessnow, visit https://launchpad.net/00:15
lifelessthere should be a login link in the top right00:15
j05h_I did, and now it's working.00:16
lifelessgreat00:16
j05h_Thanks.00:16
j05h_I forgot what I was going to file the bug report for.00:16
j05h_I'll remember though.00:17
j05h_Eventually.00:17
lifeless:)00:18
mdeontehello i was wondering if it was at all possible for me to get a thread deleted in a mailing list that was about me05:55
mdeonteit is about six or seven months old05:55
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ScottKSigh.07:36
ScottK  Uploading kdemultimedia_4.5.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes: 2k/3k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')"] : Permission denied.07:36
ScottKlifeless: ^^^ seems to be getting to be a fairly general problem.07:36
wgrantScottK: It was signed with a valid key? I wonder if the internal keyserver has died.07:37
ScottKwgrant: Yes. It's about the 12th in a row I've uploaded.07:37
wgrantScottK: The uploads *should* still go through, although if it's a keyserver problem then they'll probably be rejected.07:38
lifelessScottK: is there a bug filed?07:38
wgrantScottK: Is that to cocoplum?07:38
lifelesswgrant: two bits of data07:38
ScottKNo idea.07:38
ScottKwgrant: Yes.07:38
lifelesswgrant: slangasek was uploading ok when others had this07:38
lifelesswgrant: and at least one case was getting that error for something already accepted07:39
ScottKNext one after that failed too.07:39
StevenKSpamapS saw it over the weekend, too.07:39
geserbut his upload got accepted regardless the error07:40
ScottKNo email saying it made it yet.07:40
wgrant2011-04-11 06:40:30 DEBUG       Subject: [ubuntu/maverick-proposed] kdemultimedia 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu2 (Waiting for approval)07:41
ScottKOK.  I didn't get it yet.07:41
ScottKThanks.07:41
ScottKThere it is.07:41
ScottKConfirmed it made it then.07:41
ScottKFortunately I can reject the redundant kdemultimedia upload.07:42
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ScottKIt's happening consistently now, so something changed.07:55
wgrantScottK: Yeah, cocoplum seems to hate the keyserver right now. Investigating.07:58
StevenKOr the keyserver hates cocoplum.07:58
* ScottK votes mutual differences.08:00
wgrantProbably.08:00
MTecknologywhere do you change your password?08:10
MTecknologyoh...08:10
MTecknologywhy isn't there a change password link on your own profile page?08:12
MTecknologyor at least in the change details page08:13
StevenKBecause Launchpad doesn't deal with passwords.08:13
wgrantLaunchpad is just an OpenID consumer.08:13
MTecknologyit should at least offer a link back to the page though?08:14
MTecknologyafter all- a person has to actually take notice they're being redirected to a different website and then go back to it after they've logged in08:16
ScottKThat's the way openid works.08:21
maxbyou are supposed to be redirected, though, no?08:23
MTecknologymaxb: ya, the redirection kinda makes it hard to even realize you wind up at login.launchpad.net08:26
MTecknologysomeone asked me how to change their password on launchpad and i spent 10 minutes trying to figure it out until i remembered that08:26
maxbI think we shouls have a change password link that explains this and offers you a link to SSO08:28
MTecknology+1 :)08:29
MTecknologynappy time!08:29
wgrantI think there is a link somewhere.08:29
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wgrantBut, like most links in Launchpad, it's not in a very good place.08:30
wgrantYes!08:30
wgrantAt the bottom of https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit, *below* the "Save Changes" button, there's a link "Learn about your Launchpad account and password."08:30
maxbum. yay? :-)08:31
MTecknologyI just saw my migshot (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/37147287/101_0277.jpg)08:31
MTecknology:'(08:31
MTecknologygolly dang i was lucky; i at least got to have her for ~5yr and go through all the excitement of planning for a wedding before she dumped me08:32
wgrantmaxb: I think it represents the LP UI pretty well :)08:32
mok0MTecknology: that sucks08:37
MTecknologyindeed08:38
MTecknology8 days before our wedding she decided she didn't want me08:38
mok0MTecknology: ouch08:38
mok0MTecknology: is it long ago?08:38
MTecknologywe were engaged for 13 or 14 months too08:38
MTecknologyone month ago today (yesterday)08:39
mok0MTecknology: it really hurts, been there08:40
MTecknologyya, and seeing the mugshot which was a pic of us really brought it home how happy i was08:41
mok0MTecknology: Indeed...08:41
mok0:-(08:42
MTecknologyi'm gonna head to bed, have to be up for work in 4hr08:42
MTecknologymok0: g'night08:42
mok0MTecknology: see you08:42
wgrantScottK: cocoplum should be happy again now. The /tmp pruner was a little overzealous.09:02
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pooliehi, who has rights to see private bugs against a package?09:41
lifelessthe ubuntu security team09:41
micahg_poolie: depends why it's private09:41
lifelessfor security bugs09:42
lifelessand ubuntu devs for others09:42
micahg_lifeless: bug control actually09:42
lifelessstrictly speaking I think its ~bugcontrol09:42
pooliei think it's a not-yet-retraced bug09:43
poolieeg https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/50814509:43
ubot5Error: Launchpad(https://launchpad.net) bug 508145 not found09:43
pooliei can upload to that package; i guess that's why?09:44
poolieother ~bzr people can't see it09:44
pooliei'm not explicitly subscribed09:44
wgrantpoolie: ~ubuntu-dev probably can.09:44
wgrantpoolie: Check your membership in the apport team that's subscribed.09:44
micahg_ubuntu-dev is a member of -bugcontrol09:44
wgrant"Crash bug triagers for whatever"09:44
poolieok, i see09:44
pooliethat's probably it09:44
wgrant... why is bugcontrol in there? :/09:44
wgrantHas been for just about ever. Odd.09:45
pooliei don't suppose anyone would like to guess why these ~44 bugs are stuck private, even after they've been touched by the retracer?09:45
wgrantpoolie: You'll need to talk to pitti.09:45
micahg_poolie: retraced bugs are left private until they're examined manually for sensitive information09:46
wgrantmicahg_: Some are automatically unprivated.09:46
micahg_wgrant: yes, but they're generally dupes09:46
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poolieah, ok09:47
pooliethanks very much09:47
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sorenI get these e-mails every once in a while: "Launchpad encountered an internal error during the following operation: emailing subscribers about merge proposal changes.  It was logged with id OOPS-1927MPJ2.  Sorry for the inconvenience."10:51
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1927MPJ210:51
sorenWhat gives?10:51
wgrantsoren: Do you know which branch that was for?11:17
wgrantsoren: It's a timeout.11:18
sorenwgrant: I'm assuming ti must have been https://code.launchpad.net/~rackspace-titan/nova/terminate-libvirt-hang-lp754509/+merge/5700311:18
sorenwgrant: ...but as you probably know, it's hard to tell.11:18
wgrantsoren: Yeah.11:18
wgrantI'm not quite sure why that timed out... possibly contention with a larger job. There's 3-4 of them a day.11:19
* micahg_ got a timeout setting fields on a bug, not sure if it's interesting or not, OOPS-1927K70011:19
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1927K70011:19
micahg_err, status/assignee on a task...11:20
sorenwgrant: I got a number of them on Friday, too.11:20
sorenwgrant: OOPS-1924MPJ411:21
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ411:21
sorenand OOPS-1924MPJ5711:21
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ5711:21
wgrantmicahg_: I think you did that just at the wrong time... we just rebuild one of the bug indices, and I think you ran into a lock.11:21
soren(each of them part of a large group of sequential looking OOPSes)11:21
soren"large" as in 4 or 5 or so.11:22
wgrantEw, got up to 57?11:22
sorenEr..11:22
sorenNo.11:23
wgrant20:21:37 < ubot5> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ5711:23
sorenI got OOPS-1924MPJ3 - OOPS-1924MPJ6   and then OOPS-1924MPJ57 - OOPS-1924MPJ6011:23
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ311:23
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ611:23
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ5711:23
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ6011:23
sorenI didn't get all the ones in between.11:23
wgrantRight.11:23
wgrantBut normally MPJ doesn't get 10 a day in total.11:24
sorenbut perhaps there's more info in those numbers than I realise.11:24
lifelessday service serial11:24
soren"MP" is merge proposal?11:24
sorenAnd "J" is? timeouts?11:24
lifelessjob11:24
wgrantMPJ == merge proposal jobs11:24
sorenAh.11:24
sorenI never saw them before Friday.11:24
wgrant1924 is probably the number of days between 2006-01-01 and Friday.11:24
wgrantsoren: There were ~76 on Friday, which is extremely abnormal.11:25
wgrantNot sure what's going on there.11:25
soren2006-01-01 + 1924 days is indeed 2011-04-09.11:25
* soren marks the Launchpad epoch in his calendar11:26
sorenWow. Almost two thousand days.11:26
* soren marvels11:26
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dokohttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ftbfs+natty+ice&field.tags_combinator=ALL11:57
dokoqueries like this time out a lot11:57
dokois there anything which could be improved?11:57
dokowgrant, lifeless: ^^^11:58
dokoOOPS-1927S51911:58
ubot5https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1927S51911:58
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evwould someone mind increasing the size of my PPA so I can sort out a natty beta-2 targeted bug? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/15239712:17
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ScottKwgrant: Thanks.13:06
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niemeyerHey there17:47
niemeyerCan someone please remove the Storm team from the LAZR developers team?17:48
niemeyerI'd like to continue watching Storm without subscribing to all debate on LAZR17:48
niemeyerBtw, is it really the case that the owner of a team can't unsubscribe it from another team?17:58
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maxbniemeyer: I think it is allowed, but there's no webUI for it.18:32
maxbSo, you can do it via launchpadlib, for example18:33
niemeyermaxb: Yeah, couldn't really find a way to do it there18:33
maxbI can probably help you do it via in interactive python shell18:33
niemeyermaxb: I found a good soul to help me, so it's likely solved.  If that doesn't work, I'll bother you again if you don't mind.18:34
maxbsure18:34
niemeyermaxb: Thanks!18:34
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maxbJust for the record18:38
maxb>>> from launchpadlib.launchpad import Launchpad18:38
maxb>>> lp = Launchpad.login_with("interactive python", service_root="production")18:38
maxb>>> lp.people['storm'].leave(team=lp.people['lazr-developers'])18:39
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pooliehi all23:17
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