[00:01] <j05h_> Hello.
[00:01] <j05h_> I'm Josh, and apparently so are several other people on Freenode.
[00:01] <Darxus> Hi.
[00:01] <j05h_> Oh hi.
[00:02] <j05h_> So, while trying to register with launchpad.net to report an issue with Ubuntu, my registration email seems to actually be a forgotten password email.
[00:02] <j05h_> Or something like that.
[00:02] <j05h_> We've received a request to create a new account with your email address.
[00:02] <j05h_> If this was you, perhaps you've forgotten your password?
[00:03] <j05h_> No confirmation code given, thus no bug report filed.
[00:08] <lifeless> j05h_: that seems correctm whats wrong?
[00:08] <j05h_> The problem is that I was expecting a confirmation code to complete my registration, so I could file a bug report.
[00:08] <j05h_> Instead I got a link directing me to help with a lost password.
[00:09] <lifeless> right ... that means your email address is already on file as being used by a user
[00:10] <lifeless> so you should follow that link and recover your password [or log in if you knowyour password]
[00:10] <lifeless> note that launchpad uses login.ubuntu.com under the covers
[00:10] <lifeless> so if you have an ubuntu one account, you should login with that
[00:10] <j05h_> I have absolutely never registered before.
[00:10] <j05h_> Oh.
[00:10] <j05h_> That would have been helpful to know.
[00:10] <j05h_> Maybe I overlooked it.
[00:11] <j05h_> I'm used to Windows, where everything is pretty obvious.
[00:11] <lifeless> this is pretty unobvious
[00:11] <lifeless> we have a bug open about it
[00:12] <j05h_> I just used my Ubuntu One login, and received the same email.
[00:12] <lifeless> j05h_: login here - https://login.ubuntu.com/
[00:14] <j05h_> Same problem.
[00:14] <j05h_> Would you like me to forward the email to you?
[00:14] <j05h_> I suspect it's the same 'forgot password' email that's sent to anyone, but I can send it if it's helpful.
[00:15] <lifeless> what do you see at https://login.ubuntu.com/ ?  a login form, or a 'Your account' page ?
[00:15] <j05h_> My account.
[00:15] <lifeless> that says you are logged i
[00:15] <lifeless> in
[00:15] <lifeless> now, visit https://launchpad.net/
[00:15] <lifeless> there should be a login link in the top right
[00:16] <j05h_> I did, and now it's working.
[00:16] <lifeless> great
[00:16] <j05h_> Thanks.
[00:16] <j05h_> I forgot what I was going to file the bug report for.
[00:17] <j05h_> I'll remember though.
[00:17] <j05h_> Eventually.
[00:18] <lifeless> :)
[05:55] <mdeonte> hello i was wondering if it was at all possible for me to get a thread deleted in a mailing list that was about me
[05:55] <mdeonte> it is about six or seven months old
[07:36] <ScottK> Sigh.
[07:36] <ScottK>   Uploading kdemultimedia_4.5.5-0ubuntu2_source.changes: 2k/3k550 Changes file must be signed with a valid GPG signature: Verification failed 3 times: ["(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')", "(7, 9, u'No public key')"] : Permission denied.
[07:36] <ScottK> lifeless: ^^^ seems to be getting to be a fairly general problem.
[07:37] <wgrant> ScottK: It was signed with a valid key? I wonder if the internal keyserver has died.
[07:37] <ScottK> wgrant: Yes. It's about the 12th in a row I've uploaded.
[07:38] <wgrant> ScottK: The uploads *should* still go through, although if it's a keyserver problem then they'll probably be rejected.
[07:38] <lifeless> ScottK: is there a bug filed?
[07:38] <wgrant> ScottK: Is that to cocoplum?
[07:38] <lifeless> wgrant: two bits of data
[07:38] <ScottK> No idea.
[07:38] <ScottK> wgrant: Yes.
[07:38] <lifeless> wgrant: slangasek was uploading ok when others had this
[07:39] <lifeless> wgrant: and at least one case was getting that error for something already accepted
[07:39] <ScottK> Next one after that failed too.
[07:39] <StevenK> SpamapS saw it over the weekend, too.
[07:40] <geser> but his upload got accepted regardless the error
[07:40] <ScottK> No email saying it made it yet.
[07:41] <wgrant> 2011-04-11 06:40:30 DEBUG       Subject: [ubuntu/maverick-proposed] kdemultimedia 4:4.5.5-0ubuntu2 (Waiting for approval)
[07:41] <ScottK> OK.  I didn't get it yet.
[07:41] <ScottK> Thanks.
[07:41] <ScottK> There it is.
[07:41] <ScottK> Confirmed it made it then.
[07:42] <ScottK> Fortunately I can reject the redundant kdemultimedia upload.
[07:55] <ScottK> It's happening consistently now, so something changed.
[07:58] <wgrant> ScottK: Yeah, cocoplum seems to hate the keyserver right now. Investigating.
[07:58] <StevenK> Or the keyserver hates cocoplum.
[08:00]  * ScottK votes mutual differences.
[08:00] <wgrant> Probably.
[08:10] <MTecknology> where do you change your password?
[08:10] <MTecknology> oh...
[08:12] <MTecknology> why isn't there a change password link on your own profile page?
[08:13] <MTecknology> or at least in the change details page
[08:13] <StevenK> Because Launchpad doesn't deal with passwords.
[08:13] <wgrant> Launchpad is just an OpenID consumer.
[08:14] <MTecknology> it should at least offer a link back to the page though?
[08:16] <MTecknology> after all- a person has to actually take notice they're being redirected to a different website and then go back to it after they've logged in
[08:21] <ScottK> That's the way openid works.
[08:23] <maxb> you are supposed to be redirected, though, no?
[08:26] <MTecknology> maxb: ya, the redirection kinda makes it hard to even realize you wind up at login.launchpad.net
[08:26] <MTecknology> someone asked me how to change their password on launchpad and i spent 10 minutes trying to figure it out until i remembered that
[08:28] <maxb> I think we shouls have a change password link that explains this and offers you a link to SSO
[08:29] <MTecknology> +1 :)
[08:29] <MTecknology> nappy time!
[08:29] <wgrant> I think there is a link somewhere.
[08:30] <wgrant> But, like most links in Launchpad, it's not in a very good place.
[08:30] <wgrant> Yes!
[08:30] <wgrant> At the bottom of https://launchpad.net/people/+me/+edit, *below* the "Save Changes" button, there's a link "Learn about your Launchpad account and password."
[08:31] <maxb> um. yay? :-)
[08:31] <MTecknology> I just saw my migshot (https://launchpadlibrarian.net/37147287/101_0277.jpg)
[08:31] <MTecknology> :'(
[08:32] <MTecknology> golly dang i was lucky; i at least got to have her for ~5yr and go through all the excitement of planning for a wedding before she dumped me
[08:32] <wgrant> maxb: I think it represents the LP UI pretty well :)
[08:37] <mok0> MTecknology: that sucks
[08:38] <MTecknology> indeed
[08:38] <MTecknology> 8 days before our wedding she decided she didn't want me
[08:38] <mok0> MTecknology: ouch
[08:38] <mok0> MTecknology: is it long ago?
[08:38] <MTecknology> we were engaged for 13 or 14 months too
[08:39] <MTecknology> one month ago today (yesterday)
[08:40] <mok0> MTecknology: it really hurts, been there
[08:41] <MTecknology> ya, and seeing the mugshot which was a pic of us really brought it home how happy i was
[08:41] <mok0> MTecknology: Indeed...
[08:42] <mok0> :-(
[08:42] <MTecknology> i'm gonna head to bed, have to be up for work in 4hr
[08:42] <MTecknology> mok0: g'night
[08:42] <mok0> MTecknology: see you
[09:02] <wgrant> ScottK: cocoplum should be happy again now. The /tmp pruner was a little overzealous.
[09:41] <poolie> hi, who has rights to see private bugs against a package?
[09:41] <lifeless> the ubuntu security team
[09:41] <micahg_> poolie: depends why it's private
[09:42] <lifeless> for security bugs
[09:42] <lifeless> and ubuntu devs for others
[09:42] <micahg_> lifeless: bug control actually
[09:42] <lifeless> strictly speaking I think its ~bugcontrol
[09:43] <poolie> i think it's a not-yet-retraced bug
[09:43] <poolie> eg https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bzr/+bug/508145
[09:44] <poolie> i can upload to that package; i guess that's why?
[09:44] <poolie> other ~bzr people can't see it
[09:44] <poolie> i'm not explicitly subscribed
[09:44] <wgrant> poolie: ~ubuntu-dev probably can.
[09:44] <wgrant> poolie: Check your membership in the apport team that's subscribed.
[09:44] <micahg_> ubuntu-dev is a member of -bugcontrol
[09:44] <wgrant> "Crash bug triagers for whatever"
[09:44] <poolie> ok, i see
[09:44] <poolie> that's probably it
[09:44] <wgrant> ... why is bugcontrol in there? :/
[09:45] <wgrant> Has been for just about ever. Odd.
[09:45] <poolie> i don't suppose anyone would like to guess why these ~44 bugs are stuck private, even after they've been touched by the retracer?
[09:45] <wgrant> poolie: You'll need to talk to pitti.
[09:46] <micahg_> poolie: retraced bugs are left private until they're examined manually for sensitive information
[09:46] <wgrant> micahg_: Some are automatically unprivated.
[09:46] <micahg_> wgrant: yes, but they're generally dupes
[09:47] <poolie> ah, ok
[09:47] <poolie> thanks very much
[10:51] <soren> I get these e-mails every once in a while: "Launchpad encountered an internal error during the following operation: emailing subscribers about merge proposal changes.  It was logged with id OOPS-1927MPJ2.  Sorry for the inconvenience."
[10:51] <soren> What gives?
[11:17] <wgrant> soren: Do you know which branch that was for?
[11:18] <wgrant> soren: It's a timeout.
[11:18] <soren> wgrant: I'm assuming ti must have been https://code.launchpad.net/~rackspace-titan/nova/terminate-libvirt-hang-lp754509/+merge/57003
[11:18] <soren> wgrant: ...but as you probably know, it's hard to tell.
[11:18] <wgrant> soren: Yeah.
[11:19] <wgrant> I'm not quite sure why that timed out... possibly contention with a larger job. There's 3-4 of them a day.
[11:19]  * micahg_ got a timeout setting fields on a bug, not sure if it's interesting or not, OOPS-1927K700
[11:20] <micahg_> err, status/assignee on a task...
[11:20] <soren> wgrant: I got a number of them on Friday, too.
[11:21] <soren> wgrant: OOPS-1924MPJ4
[11:21] <soren> and OOPS-1924MPJ57
[11:21] <wgrant> micahg_: I think you did that just at the wrong time... we just rebuild one of the bug indices, and I think you ran into a lock.
[11:21] <soren> (each of them part of a large group of sequential looking OOPSes)
[11:22] <soren> "large" as in 4 or 5 or so.
[11:22] <wgrant> Ew, got up to 57?
[11:22] <soren> Er..
[11:23] <soren> No.
[11:23] <wgrant> 20:21:37 < ubot5> https://lp-oops.canonical.com/oops.py/?oopsid=1924MPJ57
[11:23] <soren> I got OOPS-1924MPJ3 - OOPS-1924MPJ6   and then OOPS-1924MPJ57 - OOPS-1924MPJ60
[11:23] <soren> I didn't get all the ones in between.
[11:23] <wgrant> Right.
[11:24] <wgrant> But normally MPJ doesn't get 10 a day in total.
[11:24] <soren> but perhaps there's more info in those numbers than I realise.
[11:24] <lifeless> day service serial
[11:24] <soren> "MP" is merge proposal?
[11:24] <soren> And "J" is? timeouts?
[11:24] <lifeless> job
[11:24] <wgrant> MPJ == merge proposal jobs
[11:24] <soren> Ah.
[11:24] <soren> I never saw them before Friday.
[11:24] <wgrant> 1924 is probably the number of days between 2006-01-01 and Friday.
[11:25] <wgrant> soren: There were ~76 on Friday, which is extremely abnormal.
[11:25] <wgrant> Not sure what's going on there.
[11:25] <soren> 2006-01-01 + 1924 days is indeed 2011-04-09.
[11:26]  * soren marks the Launchpad epoch in his calendar
[11:26] <soren> Wow. Almost two thousand days.
[11:26]  * soren marvels
[11:57] <doko> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ftbfs+natty+ice&field.tags_combinator=ALL
[11:57] <doko> queries like this time out a lot
[11:57] <doko> is there anything which could be improved?
[11:58] <doko> wgrant, lifeless: ^^^
[11:58] <doko> OOPS-1927S519
[12:17] <ev> would someone mind increasing the size of my PPA so I can sort out a natty beta-2 targeted bug? https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/152397
[13:06] <ScottK> wgrant: Thanks.
[17:47] <niemeyer> Hey there
[17:48] <niemeyer> Can someone please remove the Storm team from the LAZR developers team?
[17:48] <niemeyer> I'd like to continue watching Storm without subscribing to all debate on LAZR
[17:58] <niemeyer> Btw, is it really the case that the owner of a team can't unsubscribe it from another team?
[18:32] <maxb> niemeyer: I think it is allowed, but there's no webUI for it.
[18:33] <maxb> So, you can do it via launchpadlib, for example
[18:33] <niemeyer> maxb: Yeah, couldn't really find a way to do it there
[18:33] <maxb> I can probably help you do it via in interactive python shell
[18:34] <niemeyer> maxb: I found a good soul to help me, so it's likely solved.  If that doesn't work, I'll bother you again if you don't mind.
[18:34] <maxb> sure
[18:34] <niemeyer> maxb: Thanks!
[18:38] <maxb> Just for the record
[18:38] <maxb> >>> from launchpadlib.launchpad import Launchpad
[18:38] <maxb> >>> lp = Launchpad.login_with("interactive python", service_root="production")
[18:39] <maxb> >>> lp.people['storm'].leave(team=lp.people['lazr-developers'])
[23:17] <poolie> hi all