[00:26] bought a nikon d3000 today, does not seem to be picked up by ubuntu [00:26] :/ [00:29] lsusb has Bus 001 Device 011: ID 04b0:0424 Nikon Corp. [00:29] nautilus has nothing [00:39] dogmatic69, it's likely to be MTP, not MSC? so i don't think nautilus would see it [00:39] probably simplest to pull out the sd card and stick it in a reader then [00:39] try shotwell/f-spot [00:39] directhex: what is MTP / MSC [00:40] MSC, Mass Storage Controller, is where a device acts like a USB hard disk [00:41] ok [00:41] shotwell says "The camera is locked by another application. Shotwell can only access the camera when it's unlocked. Please close any other application using the camera and try again." [00:41] MTP, Media Transfer Protocol, is where a device instead presents itself as a device of a given class, and can have data transferred to/from it - notably it doesn't present things like folders, although your OS can make some fake folders & play pretend [00:41] ah, thanks [00:42] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1447104&page=2 ? [00:42] i read that now [00:43] dont wanna log out :( [00:43] that happens to me too :p [00:52] tx [00:52] seems to work like that :) [00:52] never mind... just died again [00:59] dogmatic69, just pull out the memory card. MTP cameras are a bit of a bother to use in Linux. [00:59] got no reader, will have to get one [01:00] dogmatic69, i'm not sure, but some cameras have a setting where you can switch between MTP and Mass Storage mode [01:02] nucc1: does not look like an option here [01:02] will get a reader i think [01:02] yea, good idea. they're not so expensive. can get some for 3 quid on amazon. [01:05] ye [01:05] http://i.min.us/im93yy.png [01:05] takes pretty cool pics :) [01:05] it makes pngs ? :) [01:05] nope, NEF [01:06] gimp makes pngs [01:06] lol. why did you convert it? [01:06] you use the gimp for resizing? [01:06] chrome cant show nef files [01:07] hmmm. don't think i've heard of NEF files before... [01:07] i was going to recommend GThumb, but i don't know about it's support [01:07] DSLR raw stuff [01:07] http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/ [01:08] nef -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raw_image_format [01:08] yea, i've heard about raw, just didn't know they also went by "NEF" [01:08] i wouldn't know anyway, my camera is my phone [01:09] mine was till today :) [01:10] nef is nikon specific [01:10] every camera has its own version of raw [01:10] s/camera/manufacturer [01:10] i used to think that a JPEG at 100% quality meant no compression. [01:10] seems i was wrong. [01:11] btw, is that a duck or a goose? :p [01:11] anyway, nice picture. [01:20] nucc1: definitely a duck [01:20] :P [01:21] lol. geese have longer necks [01:21] according to the pictures on wikipedia [01:23] "quacks do not echo". he he. [02:50] Is that not an urban myth? [02:51] myth busted, apparently [03:26] hello ppl [03:26] is swiftfox worth getting [05:14] when i login i have this error msg "could not update ICEauthority file" ???? [05:28] [Jono Bacon] Community Leadership Summit 2011 - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/04/11/community-leadership-summit-2011/ [06:15] morning [07:15] Bah, back to work for a week of fighting brushfires [07:28] [Jono Bacon] Hindsight Is Almost 20/20 - http://www.jonobacon.org/2011/04/11/hindsight-is-almost-2020/ [07:42] Morning [07:56] hello [08:00] morning [08:01] morning popey are you well? [08:01] yup [08:01] good good [08:08] morning [08:10] morning AlanBell [08:16] finally got my planet feed link off my to do list [08:27] Morning all [08:32] TheOpenSourcerer: morning :) [08:50] Oooh shiny. A day made of Glass... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Cf7IL_eZ38 [08:53] TheOpenSourcerer: how quick would you break something though :) [08:55] TheOpenSourcerer: thats pretty [08:56] in a world made of glass who needs windows? [08:56] um [08:56] perhaps when my son is older :D [08:57] disappointed the glass bowl the popcorn came in didnt do something amazing [08:57] MUST TRY HARDER CORNING! [08:58] morning folks [09:01] dwatkins: morning :D [09:01] TheOpenSourcerer: I look forward to the day I can have windows like that, just like in Blade Runner :D [09:01] dwatkins: you'd have to have vengelis playing in the background ;) [09:01] MooDoo: I think I could handle that [09:02] Some neat ideas/concepts in there. I like the kitchen myself ;-) [09:02] I think I'd prefer a gas hob, though. [09:02] +1 [09:02] FAHYAR! [09:02] I like the idea of a phone which lets you transfer the call to the worktop, also. [09:07] is ubuntuforums.org hosted by canonical? [09:09] the domain name appears to belong to them, ali1234 [09:09] ali1234: it's nameservers are canonicals [09:10] * dwatkins wonders if 'Circular Road' is a nod at Google's 'Infinite Loop' [09:12] dwatkins: Apple's infinite loop [09:12] dwatkins: and isn't Circular the only road on IoM? :P [09:13] haha [09:13] ali1234: yes, canonical host the boxes behind ubuntuforums.org [09:13] MartijnVdS: whats IoM? [09:13] nah, plenty of roads on the Isle of Man [09:13] oh [09:13] Isle Of Man [09:14] don't you watch the bike TT :) [09:15] i'm aware of it [09:15] i just never saw it abbreviated like that before [09:16] Good morning earthlings :) [09:18] bigcalm: You alienist you [09:31] * MooDoo upgraded to natty last night :D [09:31] * kazade kazade did a couple of nights ago [09:31] No deleted /boot directory then, MooDoo? [09:31] wtf? [09:31] dwatkins: huh? [09:31] did I just write "kazade" lol [09:32] MooDoo: I heared on the general offtopic channel of a few people whose /boot got deleted when they upated recently [09:32] dwatkins: ooo didn't notice, thought all went swimmingly to be honest, some weird flash playback issue but nothing major [09:33] and it works wonderful on my tv via hdmi :) [09:34] yay [09:34] I plan on connecting up my laptop via hdml soon so I can use my TV as a monitor - my other half just got a 24" Apple cinema display, so I decided it's time I used the TV to play games on ;) [09:34] dwatkins: had to figure out how to change audio so it played through the tv :) [09:35] MooDoo: sounds like it went well then [09:36] dwatkins: yeah kinda, need to figure out how to make it so that it's the main monitor and not just an extension of the laptop [09:37] dwatkins: it's so i can use the tv to show my son computers :) [09:37] excellent, MooDoo [09:37] dwatkins: i'm hoping these niggles are just because it's natty and not a release version [09:38] Yeah, quite likely, MooDoo === ormiret_ is now known as ormiret [09:52] Is there any way to view/edit my ubuntu partitions from windows? [09:53] Snomi: would fdisk do it? [09:54] I meant just to view the files [09:54] Snomi: explore2fs [09:54] snomi http://www.supriyadisw.net/2006/09/how-to-read-ubuntu-partition-on-windows try this, i've not used it though [09:55] right ok thanks, I'll see how it goes [09:58] works ok [09:58] Snomi: fab [09:58] uh oh [09:58] just crashed [09:58] bummer [10:00] yeah [10:00] cant get at the big files [10:00] weird [10:01] Snomi: i'm sure there are other apps, i just did a quick search on google [10:01] yeah sure [10:16] http://doctormo.org/2011/04/11/narwhal-classic-is-fixed/ this is some good news this morning :) [10:22] so in classic mode can you run regular compiz? [10:28] now that I haven't tried [10:29] Greetings, all! [10:41] AlanBell: Classic mode is compiz. Classic mode (no effects) is metacity [10:58] Hello. [11:00] hello s-fox [11:00] Hello MooDoo :) [11:01] s-fox: how are you on this most fine day? [11:02] \o [11:02] I am okay thank you, stomping around ubuntu forums dealing with reports. How are you? [11:02] s-fox: ok, upgraded to natty last night, seeing how that plays out, taking it to camera club on thursday night to show them FOSS [11:02] Good luck! [11:03] s-fox: ta :D [11:03] s-fox: carry on stomping ;) === SuperMat1 is now known as SuperMatt [11:06] morning all [11:07] Hello davmor2 [11:07] How're you? [11:08] s-fox: Good thanks you? [11:08] I am doing magnificently well thank you, I am delighted to hear you are good. [11:08] :) [11:09] s-fox: Man you polite you know this is Ubuntu-uk right :D [11:10] My english isn't brilliant, but I manage. [11:10] :) [11:11] It's very good. There's English folks with worse "English" around :-) [11:11] Oi czajkowski how's you back kidda any better or worse than before? [11:12] JGJones, English is my first language, I just do not rate it that well. Laugh out loud. [11:13] i wish people would talk proper like wot i does. [11:14] s-fox, English is my second language, but I used it first from birth. [11:14] yeah, learn to speak proper [11:14] MooDoo: R yam awlrite r kid? [11:14] JGJones, Oh yes? May I enquire what is your first language? [11:14] davmor2: aye lad crackin. [11:15] s-fox, BSL which I first used at 11 yrs old. [11:15] davmor2: i ope r czajkowski lass is alreet, she ben in pain latly ;) [11:15] Oh yes, I remember you mentioned that before! [11:15] * BigRedS buys MooDoo a new keyboard :) [11:16] MooDoo: hmm, that seems very northern lol [11:16] MooDoo, the way you're talking is just reminding me of Feersum Enjinn (Iain M Banks book) [11:16] MooDoo: A lorra lorra pain and wim ai ad nutin to do wid it [11:16] HazRPG:used to live in yorkshire now in midlands :) [11:16] davmor2: you're missing init from the end of your sentences [11:16] MooDoo: ah [11:16] JGJones: ug, some of the chapters in that book were painful to read [11:17] bigcalm, yup...took me forever to read that book. [11:18] MooDoo: I ai from dow sowff init would be more appropriate though that or upstart :D [11:19] davmor2: by jove i actually understand what your saying old bean ;) [11:26] MooDoo: We had some french exchange students we were showing around and they would talk to each other in french laugh and then tell us something in English that wasn't funny, So me and my mate started talking black country to each other and laughing and telling them something not funny in return they seemed to get the message [11:27] davmor2: lol awesome [11:27] MooDoo: of course this was after the 3rd degree on what language we were speaking :) [11:27] Morning, just. [11:27] I was working in a factory in France doing a load of presentations to the staff, they kept interrupting me with side conversations in french [11:27] MooDoo: They refused to believe it was English :D [11:27] hah, speaking about French and issyl0 appears :) [11:27] davmor2: lol [11:27] Mmmm, French. [11:27] I waited each time for them to finish and then carried on [11:27] MartijnVdS: Strange, eh? [11:27] I must have a radar. [11:28] 'French' on highlight [11:28] issyl0: don't all women? :) [11:28] Tommeh: No, I'm not that bad. [11:28] MartijnVdS: Hahaha! [11:28] Careful what you say now! [11:28] I just loved the expressions on their faces when we went to a restaurant in the evening and I translated the menu for the other english people and ordered in French [11:28] AlanBell: \o/ [11:28] issyl0: no just, there a good 24hours before morning ends it's the Interweb where it's always morning [11:29] Hey issyl0 . it has been a while. Keeping well? :) [11:29] davmor2: Hmmm, with time zones etc, yeah, I suppose so. [11:29] s-fox: Very well thanks - you? [11:29] AlanBell, Wonderful :D [11:29] AlanBell: every dog has his day :0 [11:29] * :) [11:29] any one from whitby aread here? [11:29] s/area [11:29] Man, I can't wait for DL2011 :D [11:30] issyl0, Yes, I am doing a lot better these days thank you :) [11:30] s-fox: Good. [11:31] MooDoo: You've been watching too much heartbeat haven't you ;) [11:33] whitby... whitby bay? [11:38] davmor2: no i'm going on holiday up north in July, just wondered if anyone in the Whiby area fancied a beer if the misses lets me ;) [11:38] MooDoo: Still you've watched too much heartbeat :P [11:39] davmor2: not in about 10 years ;) [11:41] MooDoo: you mean it's stuck with you that long old chap? === Hornet- is now known as Hornet [11:42] davmor2: 39 on friday :S [11:43] MooDoo: You and popey are both older than me it must just be that I feel older :D [11:43] davmor2: and look it ;) [11:44] MooDoo: Hard life :D [11:45] davmor2: ;) [11:48] davmor2: i just feel old ;) kids two and a half and already running rings around me ;) [11:49] MooDoo, http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/3519786/Boy-13-expelled-for-moustache.html [11:49] /facepalm [11:50] s-fox: well that's a joke isn't it [11:50] MooDoo: But that's because you are old :P At least till the 9th of August then of course 39 will become a suitably apt age for a person to be. [11:50] lol [11:51] davmor2: ah not that long for you then :) [11:51] MooDoo: No [11:51] * MooDoo points and laughs [11:54] MooDoo: Yeah but I get to point and laugh First and for longer Muhahahahahahahahahahahaha [11:54] davmor2: dagnamit :) [11:55] davmor2: you owe me a beer for being older sooner ;) [11:56] MooDoo: That's fine but I can guarantee my pint of coke will be more expensive than your beer :P [11:57] davmor2: Mmm. Non-alcoholic drinks are expensive in pubs/places where you're "supposed" to consume alcohol. :-( [11:58] issyl0: This is the truth, 1.80 for a pint of larger 2.40 for a pint of pepsi [11:58] davmor2: Horrible. [11:58] Who drinks an entire pint of pepsi? [11:59] MartijnVdS: i do! [11:59] MartijnVdS: a pint isn't that much pepsi. [11:59] it's more than half a litre! [11:59] MartijnVdS: they sell it by the pint in shops in the US [12:00] Well why doesn't a pint of beer seem as obseen? [12:00] Pendulum: everything is bigger in the US [12:00] Er. [12:00] issyl0: More beer = more intoxicated :) [12:00] s/obseen/obscene/ [12:00] more coke/pepsi = more caffinated :D [12:00] HazRPG: caffeine-- [12:01] Don't know what came over me then with that atrocious spelling! [12:01] I've had better nights out full of sugar and caffeine, then I have wasted [12:02] Question, what do I do when I have two byobu windows embedded into each other >_< [12:03] * kazade just booted Ubuntu 5.04 in a VM :) [12:03] HazRPG: use the escape combination twice [12:03] HazRPG: do the dance of seperation :) [12:03] HazRPG: Ctrl+A in normal screen -> Ctrl+A A = screen-in-screen [12:03] HazRPG: Ctrl+A A A = screen in screen in screen, etc [12:03] Oh mu [12:03] my [12:03] Same with ssh [12:04] ~ . = kill ssh, [12:04] ~~ . = kill ssh in ssh [12:04] etc. [12:05] kazade: you should of started with 4.10 [12:05] Heh, well 5.04 was the first one I used ;) [12:05] reminiscing :D [12:05] davmor2: I tried that last year.. we've come a long way [12:06] MartijnVdS: thats not working :( [12:06] HazRPG: what's the "escape sequence" in byobu? did they change it from Ctrl+A? [12:06] MartijnVdS: no, it should be Ctrl+A [12:06] a bit late, but not everything's bigger in the US ;) their pint is 16oz [12:06] checked the help [12:07] HazRPG: Ctrl+A A D [12:07] HazRPG: that detaches the "inner" screen [12:07] MartijnVdS: in byobu I think it's something like F5 [12:07] F5 = reload [12:07] just hit the menu button it'll tell you [12:08] ctrl+r is reload. I wish things would stop using F5 :( [12:08] HazRPG: F6 I was close [12:09] well hitting that just closes the byobu of my machine [12:09] shauno: you can change the defaults in byobu [12:09] but I can't see to control the byobu of my ssh inside that :S [12:12] hmm this is odd [12:13] watch inception whilst high. nested screens will start to make sense :) [12:16] fixed i think [12:17] yup yup, fixed :D [12:17] i set my byobu to have "no keybinds" [12:18] then closed the remote byobu with F6, then manually changed the byobu config back to f-keys [12:18] * HazRPG notes to self: byobu in byobu is not good! [12:18] I'm running a virtual box install of ubuntu. How can I make a system tarball? [12:22] HazRPG: I thought screen had a (reasonably) elegant way of deling with that, though I don't remember what it is; does byobu somehow do away with it? [12:26] BigRedS: I'm not sure, i think it's more because i ssh'ed to my tower from my laptop, loaded up byobu to see usual stats at the bottom, then ssh'd to my vps to load up irssi... then closed with F6, came back to my machine to find that the terminal i had the ssh to my vps open had now got two byobu's! [12:26] so i think i confused it >_< lol [12:27] more likely it confused you. it all makes perfect sense to the software :) [12:27] well yeah :P [12:28] right, shall I make a video on how to do irssi window splits, or shall I just write about it... [12:29] [Andrew] Login Screen Mockups - http://whyareyoureadingthisurl.wordpress.com/2011/04/11/login-screen-mockups/ [12:32] what a miserable day. got a snarky email asking if there was a good reason I have several hundred open tickets and everyone else has 1 or 2 :/ [12:32] czajkowski: Is irc.linux.ie down? [12:32] "because u suck" [12:32] because I don't look at them. they're evil. [12:32] shauno: work harder ;) [12:33] MooDoo: oh I work. apparently I'm meant to clean up after myself too [12:33] open more tickets [12:34] shauno: ticket: Everyone else has less tickets than me, get it fixed batman! [12:35] actually. I wonder if they'd do that. if I asked them to just set all my records to closed/cancelled/customer cancelled [12:37] shauno: you could just to an rm -rf shauno-tickets [12:38] heh. if only it was that easy [12:39] oracle/siebel is hideous [12:39] shauno: i know :( i used it at uni :/ [12:39] and knowing us, we're probably standardised on something 5 years old [12:40] I mean, we're still on Notes 6.5 (circa 2004) [12:40] wow, i've seeded wiki for a ratio of 1.72 [12:40] thats a lot of data! [12:40] anyhow. enough grumping. moar spending the next 3 hours ticking boxes! [12:41] shauno: guessing no "select all" boxes? [12:55] * davmor2 happily bobbing away to absolute 80's in it's full ogg glory [12:56] davmor2: put that axel f ogg down [12:58] MooDoo: no Axel f yet currently on Sanctify yourself by simple minds [12:59] cool :) [13:04] MooDoo: Dexy now with Gino [13:11] everyone smile for the camera! [13:11] Taking a quick screen-cap of irssi. [13:11] :) [13:11] :P [13:12] anyone use Twitter ?? [13:13] Martiini: yes thanks [13:16] davmor2: may I add you to my twitter account? [13:18] guessing everyone else is shy for the camera then :P [13:18] also, yeah I use twitter too [13:19] hmm every time i like a video on youtube it goes on my twitter twice [13:19] heh, last.fm knows me too well :) [13:20] maybe its because i turned on "post everything i do" on every stupid social site i signed up for [13:20] ali1234: erm, depends... if you favourite it and also "like" it too, it'll post it twice [13:20] i don't favourite on youtube, i don't even know how since they redesigned it [13:20] i noticed that on facebook, so I set it to only send stuff that I "like" or "upload" [13:21] yeah it all goes to facebook too [13:21] i think it's facebook forwarding it on to twitter [13:21] or maybe it's buzz [13:21] I don't link accounts like that. it's evil :/ [13:21] everything goes there as well [13:21] shauno: why not? [13:21] i turned it all on cos i hate all those sites and i'm trying to fill them with crap [13:22] i never post anything on any of them [13:22] :) [13:22] HazRPG: there's enough drivel on twitter already :) [13:22] hate is a strong word ;) [13:22] so my twitter is just a list of stupid funny videos and other nonsense like that [13:22] ali1234: my facebook is kinda like that [13:24] its not possible to contact someone on twitter .. unless they follow you, correct? [13:25] i thin kyou just write @ followed by their name and they see it [13:25] I was given a note to tweet someone once, so I assume it is possible Martiini [13:25] ali1234: @ - means "reply" ??? [13:26] it just means @ [13:26] like "i'm tweeting @ u lol" [13:26] there's no guarantee anyone will see it [13:26] i don't think anyone actually *reads* twitter [13:27] so .. @"twitter-name" makes it visible or not ?? nobody will actually see my messages in any case .. or do they ? [13:27] I know a few who follow everything said on it :/ [13:27] I read everything on Twitter yesterday [13:27] the whole thing [13:27] i don't understand how you are supposed to follow a conversation between two people [13:28] all i ever see is people saying "@jrandomguy yeah lol" [13:28] followers see retweets [13:28] ali1234, you use a client that allows you to see the conversation [13:28] such as what? [13:28] @ ali1234: I 'ave an itch [13:28] twidroid on my phone does it, as does the web version [13:29] gord, kinda like something that parses logs? [13:29] so .. is it possible to contact someone who is not following you on twitter [13:29] how do i use a twitter client when someone gives me a http url to a random tweet? [13:30] browser ? [13:30] how do you follow any conversation when someone only gives you one sentence spoken by one side of the conversation? [13:30] you can't [13:30] which is the whole problem [13:30] theyre hidden [13:30] its a community [13:30] the problem is that people are giving you random http urls [13:31] so .. how do I contact someone in a twitter cluster or community ?? [13:31] stalk them until you find out their email address, then email them [13:32] people read their emails? ;) [13:32] ali1234: Always with the stalking! [13:33] f*ck .. there is no way getting to them .. unless I have a phonenumber [13:33] neither email, twitter .. [13:33] hamitron: i do [13:33] ali1234: I fel soooo ashamed ;) [13:33] feel* [13:38] erm [13:38] is gnome 3 easy to use? [13:39] looks totally alien to me [13:40] it is supposedly Made Of Easy [13:41] Martiini: Feel free davmor2 shockingly :) [13:42] what [13:42] what do you mean davmor2 shockingly [13:43]