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kevin6888296hey jdeslip00:00
jdeslipHey keven6888296 - having a good weekend?01:01
kevin6888296so far so good jdeslip, how about yourself?01:26
jdeslipIt was a pretty nice weekend.02:49
jdeslipJamezQ: Is that you that just requested membership?02:51
jdeslipAnd... are you a real person? ;)02:51
JamezQyea02:51
JamezQ;)02:51
JamezQOr an amazing bot.02:51
JamezQHonestly, both deserve membership02:51
jdeslipGood point02:51
JamezQso, do loco's ever do programming projects?02:53
jdeslipWell, they can.  But mostly people working on a particular project are not necessarily geographically nearby02:53
grantbowPeople do projects. Volunteer design by committee often has disadvantages in my experience.02:54
jdeslipThe LoCo's efforts are mostly focused on awareness, advocacy and having fun02:54
philipballewlite entire projects or like programing like bug's?02:54
philipballew*like02:54
* aaditya starts to fade in02:55
grantboworganizing Ubuntu precenses at events are quite worthy of the project title02:55
grantbowerr, presences02:55
jdeslipgrantbow: thanks for all your efforts at todays BLUG meeting02:55
philipballewive seen it where members of a loco do a project but its not endorsed by the loco itself02:55
grantbowjdeslip: was fun02:55
JamezQI see02:55
grantbowphilipballew: if the project is good what does it matter?02:55
jdeslipJamezQ: But many people in the LoCo, myself included, have our own programming projects going on.  The channel is sometimes a good place to get help.02:56
grantbowopinions are just opinions02:56
grantbowcode is ocde02:56
grantbowcode02:56
JamezQjdeslip: What are you working on?02:56
philipballewit doesnt. doesnt in my opinion at least02:56
jdeslipI have a couple small Ubuntu apps in development.  One is: https://launchpad.net/geeq02:57
JamezQneat02:57
jdeslipOk, almost time for the meeting.  Who is here for the meeting?02:59
akko/02:59
jledbettero/03:00
JamezQOkay, so thats two03:00
jtatumo/03:00
philipballewI am!!!03:00
philipballewteo03:00
jdeslipOK - well let's begin.  People can chime in as they arrive.03:00
grantbowpeople will reveal themselves03:00
jdeslip---------------- Begin Meeting ------------------03:00
jdeslipWe usually begin with announcements.  Does anyone have something to share that is relevant to the team?03:01
grantbowAgenda is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/11April1003:02
jdeslipIn case anyone is not aware Ubuntu 11.04 is scheduled to be released on the 28th of this month.03:02
jdeslipgrantbow: thanks03:02
philipballewhow did the global jams play out?03:02
philipballewthats the first item03:02
jdeslipSo, that is agenda item 1.03:02
grantbowOpen Week is coming up May 2nd. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuOpenWeek03:03
jdeslipexcellent03:03
jdeslipAny other announcements?03:03
grantbownot that I can think of.03:03
grantbowjono did a Global Jam in Walnut Creek on Friday.03:04
jdeslipCan you summarize that grantbow?03:04
grantbowpleia2 did a Global Jam on Sunday in Berkeley03:04
grantbowI attended both.  I wish they could summarize but pleia2 is on vacation.03:04
jdeslipI can summarize the second, but did not attend the first.03:04
grantbowwere there others?03:05
philipballewi assume jono isnt here03:05
jdeslipWell, at the second event, Sunday in Berkeley, we had 6 attendees total.03:05
grantbowno other events are listed http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events/history03:06
grantbowGlobal Jam events at least03:06
jdeslippleia2 brought some documentation on xubuntu with instructions for testers.  I believe a couple of bugs were filed against it.03:06
philipballewmy email says there were only two03:07
jdeslipI personally spent my time testing Ubuntu and Unity - and filed a couple bugs.03:07
grantbowthe folks in this channel for IRC were helpful at both events - thank you virtual attendees too!03:07
jdeslipI think, in the future, we might be able to make the events even more succesful by coming up with a short list of focused tasks ahead of time.03:08
grantbowsounds good03:09
jdeslippleia2 task list for xubuntu seemed like a good example03:09
grantbowWe talked about several bugs including some in Unity and road tested the future release.03:09
jdeslipAny other feedback from anyone who attended one of the two events?03:09
grantbowWe had a new MOTU attend the Walnut Creek event.03:10
grantbowWe talked about UDS sponsorships which have now been announced. You know if you are going by now.03:10
grantbowThat's all I can recall right now.03:10
jdeslipOK, so let's move on to agenda item 2.  Release party for 11.04.03:11
* kevin6888296 sneaks in03:11
jdeslipSince I missed the last meeting, I am a bit out of the loop (or not?) - are there any plans or locations planned yet?03:11
grantbowjono often has something up his sleeve.  I'll email him.03:12
philipballewi dont recal  any being mantoned last meeting03:12
jdeslipFor the last few releases, we have met in SF either at the Thirsty bear or nearby03:12
grantbownothing planned that I am aware of.03:12
jdeslipUsually just an opportunity for people who live nearby to meet eachother person and have fun celebrating the release03:13
kevin6888296are you doing anything in your neck philipballew ?03:13
jdeslipOk, I'll talk to pleia2 and see if she wants to host something in SF at Thirsty Bear or nearby again.03:13
jdeslipYa, hopefully some of the SoCal folks can put something together.03:14
kevin6888296it's just a matter of finding a venue, i'm starting to sync up with a hacker space in culver city03:14
kevin6888296perhaps that might be an option03:14
grantbowkevin*: cool!03:14
epsI like the concept of "nearby." Thirsty Bear is so noisy it's difficult to converse.03:14
JamezQSo, how about the NorCal guys? Up in the bay? What if someone is there?03:15
philipballewnothing, i might email david as he possibly has something. i personaally have nothing though03:15
jdeslipCool.  Let us know how that goes by sending an email to the mailing list03:15
grantboweps: plan an event if you don't prefer the ones that get planned.03:15
grantbowjdeslip: right03:15
epsgrantbow: I'm not challenging the event, just the venue03:15
kevin6888296philipballew: ah03:16
jdeslipJamezQ: We will likely have a party in the Bay area (probably SF) - I'll talk to pleia2 and write an email to the list. We should sync with jono if he is planning something03:16
kevin6888296eps: finding a venue ain't easy, at least not in my experience.03:16
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours edited03:16
jdeslipeps: we'll keep your opinion in mind.  Do you have another suggestion for a place?03:16
grantbowthere is no limit to the number of events.03:16
philipballewdoes the jam have to be on the actual release date or would the weekend work just as well?03:16
kevin6888296well, i suppose an event with just 1 person still counts as an event03:17
epsjdeslip: not off the top of my head. Thirsty Bear would work if we had enough attendees to reserve our own area; we're just too small at the moment.03:17
jdeslipphilipballew: the weekend is fine.  Usually we do it within a week or so of release.  But, there is no reason it has to be on the release date.03:17
grantbowno hard limits, just around that time.03:17
philipballewexcellent03:18
grantbowas the time draws closer people will get more details nailed down as usual.03:18
grantbow18 days or so left03:19
kevin6888296philipballew: it probably depends on who is attending03:19
jdeslipOK.  So if philipballew, kevin6888296 want to se something up as well as anyone else, please send an email to the list with planned location and time so others in the area know03:20
jdeslipAnything from a get-together to an advocacy event would be great.03:20
grantbowsounds good03:21
grantbowinstallfests are possible too if you are quick with downloads but it's not required03:21
philipballewis doing one just finding a place to have it and a time?03:21
grantbowyes03:21
jdeslipphilipballew: that is probably the hardest part.03:21
grantbowand telling people about it03:22
jdeslipYou can basically just make it a get-together for ubuntu users / team-members in the area.  If you want you can also burn some discs, make a sign and do a little advocacy.03:22
jdeslipCan use the teams cd-sleeve design03:23
philipballewfor sure. well i can make the sing, find a place. but would people from greater so cal come is the real question03:23
grantbowask around03:24
jdeslipI am guessing you would get quite a few.  You can judge by response to the mailing list.03:24
epsPublicity helps. High gasoline prices don't.03:24
jdesliptrue story03:24
philipballewbikes ftw!03:25
philipballewi can shoot a invitation out then find a place by the number of people that respond03:25
jdeslipThat would be a good plan I think03:26
jdeslipOk does anyone have something they would like to add to the meeting agenda?  Announcements, proposals etc...?03:26
akkA lot of people won't respond much ahead of time, though.03:26
grantbowHere are a couple URLs I should have mentioned during the global jam wrap-up section. http://princessleia.com/journal/?p=4196  Jono didn't write much about Walnut Creek specifically but he has a few global jam entries.  http://www.jonobacon.org/03:27
aadityaHow about an Ubuntu California biking group?03:27
grantbowthe floor is open03:27
jdeslipIf you can find other team-members who like biking than why not? ;)03:27
philipballewyes. we ride bikes while holding our laptops!!!03:28
aadityaWould people enjoy going out in the greens and burn some calories than sitting in a coffee shop and consuming more?03:28
aadityaI won't be surprised to see a laptop mounted on a bike.03:28
aadityaThere's mounts for smartphones out there.03:28
JamezQHeh, I don't know if that is legal.03:28
aadityaEverything's legal when you're on a bike ;)03:28
aadityawell almost.03:28
jdeslipJamezQ: was about to say that03:28
akkThere's a bill in the works to ban non-handsfree phones (and presumably texting) on bikes, I've read.03:29
aadityaDo people actually do that? o.O03:29
philipballewbut the cheeper pay as you go phones rule!03:29
grantbowbecause that's the most important issue in the state of course...03:29
* akk would be interested if there was a south bay group going biking03:29
grantbowanything else Ubuntu related?03:29
epsIt looks like the next SF Ubuntu Hour will be one week later than customary. http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events03:30
jdeslipeps: yes, good find.03:30
aadityaalright akk, that makes two of us.03:30
akkaaditya: Oh yeah, I've seen lots of people riding with 1 or 0 hands while using the other(s) to hold a phone to their ear.03:30
grantboweps: thanks for the reminder03:30
jdeslipOK: Anything else before we close the meeting?03:30
grantbowUbuntu Hours are coming up - keep an eye on http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-california/events and/or ...03:31
grantbowhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours03:31
jdeslip-------------- Meeting Ends ---------------------03:31
* aaditya starts to zone out.03:32
jdeslipThanks for attending everyone, next meeting in two weeks03:32
grantbowThanks everyone for attending. Thanks Jack for running the meeting.03:32
jledbetterNight y'all :)03:32
philipballewmost excellent03:32
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aadityao.O03:34
aadityaThanks all.03:34
aadityaalso, s/10/17/ in topic?03:34
eps24th03:34
aadityaright, 24.03:34
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aadityathank you ChanServ .03:34
jdeslipthird time is the charm...03:34
jledbetterhehe03:35
grantbow\o/03:36
eps v03:37
eps |03:37
eps___03:37
grantbowmailed jono about another flash mob at Thirsty Bear.03:37
jledbettermartini glass?03:37
* eps giggles03:37
grantbowhehe03:38
philipballewmailed david about possible socal release party03:39
philipballewill look for a place this week03:40
philipballewshould be good, maybe03:40
epsLocation scouting should be a year-round activity.03:45
kevin6888296hey MarkDude04:29
MarkDudehttp://cls11.eventbrite.com/ Community Leadership Summit 201104:30
MarkDudeHello kevin688829604:30
kevin6888296http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/team/873/detail/ los angeles ubuntu hour04:31
kevin6888296MarkDo04:31
kevin6888296ah yes, gah-sho MarkDude04:31
kdubis the meeting still going on?04:31
kevin6888296gah-sho kdub04:31
kevin6888296no, it just finished04:31
kdubdarn, i always miss it04:32
kevin6888296you may want to sink up with philipballew though wrt San Diego release party04:32
kevin6888296sync, yeah i see it04:33
kdubwill do04:33
kdubwhat's gah sho04:36
kevin6888296kdub: http://www.sfzc.org/images/people/linda_ruth_gasho.jpg04:36
kevin6888296like nahm-eh-steh04:37
kevin6888296i like the greeting better than hell-oh, or "hey"  or "hi"04:38
kevin6888296hay04:38
kevin6888296high04:38
kdubi like 'wattup'04:43
kdubbut with a nasally midwestern A04:44
kevin6888296wudd-up?  or waht-up?04:50
kdubmore like wahtttup04:50
kevin6888296haha04:50
kevin6888296watt-up04:50
kevin6888296sweeeet04:51
kevin6888296bzzzt04:51
* MarkDude is more used to namaste with that pose :)04:57
MarkDudeThen is Santa Cruz- it might also mean *hello fellow Hippie* ;)04:58
kevin6888296i don't like how "namaste" is pronounced05:01
Eurekawiki: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Projects/UbuntuHours edited05:01
kevin6888296i don't like "nahm-ah-stay"05:01
kevin6888296i like "nahm-ah-steh" or "nahm-eh-steh"05:01
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iheartubuntunice job on the ubuntu hour kevin688829616:34
* iheartubuntu is using natty without unity16:35
nhainesakgraner: wow, you're on Slashdot.  :)17:11
akgranernah - they left out Bruce's name which is on the original submission17:12
akgranerI just thought it was a great article so I submitted it...17:13
akgranerI've only personally be /.'d twice I think :-)17:13
iheartubuntuhow does one get slashdotted?17:15
akgranerpeople submit links to stories and some there decides if it's worthy or something17:19
akgraners/some/someone17:19
akgranernot every story people submit make it17:20
nhainesakgraner: they never take *my* submissions.  :)17:32
kdubmaybe i can figure out a way to make it to jono 's leadership summit in oregon...17:50
kdubsandiego to oregon is a lot of driving though :)17:50
iheartubuntuso anyone going to work at fukashima?19:29
kevin6888296should i bother applying?19:32
kevin6888296$100/hr19:32
kevin6888296will they pay for my flight?19:32
DarkwingDuckDoing what work??19:32
kevin6888296i didn't even bother checking19:33
kevin6888296here's the article, in japanese: http://news.livedoor.com/article/detail/5480812/19:33
kevin6888296it's translating now19:34
kevin6888296The main work content " on the premises of a nuclear power plant in Fukushima Prefecture, cleaning, work assistance and thank you. Masu Hashi protective equipment and protective clothing provided. wearing protective equipment on a paid, field will move as directed. will be around for 3 hours a day working on the thought of field workers, "and there.19:35
akkAnd the rest of the time sleeping on the floor and eating a lot less than they need. Conditions are very rough for those workers.19:37
iheartubuntuif the protective clothing gets in the way, im sure its optional19:38
iheartubuntu"We recommend that you carefully decide."19:40
iheartubuntu"If there is a strong will to save your world, you might also be responsible for part of a savior."19:41
kevin6888296hey iheartubuntu how's your back?  it's funny, i was doing some new exercises and now my back hurts.19:48
iheartubuntumy back isnt much better actually. i dont know what to do. i think i'll go to a chiropractor today or tomorrow.20:06
iheartubuntui have weird sharp pains coming from my lower back shooting all around my body when i twist and turn.20:07
kevin6888296damn.  that's bad.20:10
kevin6888296sounds like it's skeletal or stretched connective tissue20:11
kevin6888296have you been taking ibuprofen?20:11
kevin6888296you could also take ibuprofen + aspirin.  i have heard drug synergy occurs.  of course, be careful with the dosage.  i personally wouldn't take more than 400mg of both.20:12
kevin6888296that is 200mg of ibuprofen and 200mg of aspirin20:13
nhainesIbuprofen is just a muscle relaxant, so if it hasn't helped by now then something else is going on.20:13
kevin6888296blood thinner20:13
nhainesA chiropractor's probably your best bet.  If your back is out of alignment, that's something that's easy to fix.20:14
kevin6888296i heard chiropractors are as effective as placebo.20:15
* iheartubuntu took 1600mg of ibu and it did nothing20:20
iheartubuntui have pretty good luck with my chiro20:20
iheartubuntufirst time i went to him he had me stand in front of a mirror and asked... see anything wrong?20:21
iheartubuntui said nope!20:21
iheartubuntuand then he said look at your shoulders. my shoulders were about 3 inches difference in height compared to each other20:21
iheartubuntuhe adjusted me and then we did it again and my shoulders were level20:22
iheartubuntulast time i went to him about 2 yrs ago. same back problem actually. his nurse did some ultra sonic on my back and it did nothing for me20:23
iheartubuntuthats why i havent really wanted to go this time20:23
iheartubuntui mean its getting better, just really slow.20:23
nhainesYeah, my chiropractor is really great.  He never does ultrasound by itself though.20:24
kevin6888296i'm relunctant to say it, but i bet losing that 20lbs you said you gained would probably do wonders20:24
* iheartubuntu is looking for his gym card right now20:24
iheartubuntuim sure.ive actually cut back on the beer :|20:24
kevin6888296empty calories!20:25
iheartubuntuwhenever im in shape, i dont need a chiro20:25
iheartubuntuand i was in pretty good shape last year until about october20:25
kevin6888296i got in "shape" about 4 years ago i think it was20:26
iheartubuntui wish i had the time to play in a soccer league again20:26
kevin6888296well, 4 years ago i could do like 2 pull-ups, now i can do 520:26
iheartubuntuonce my wife gets her drivers license i think i'll get back into soccer20:26
kevin6888296wish some would say is pathetic...soooo20:26
kevin6888296*which20:27
iheartubuntunhaines yah i was adjusted first then the ultrasonic.20:27
iheartubuntunhaines ive thought many times to do some chiro classes at night. i find it very interesting20:27
iheartubuntuThere is a good book i like. i should read it again... "Dr. Fulford's Touch of Life: The Healing Power of the Natural Life Force"20:28
iheartubuntuquick read, some good stretches in it too20:28
nhainesI'm not superstitious, I only go when I've actually thrown my back out of alignment and need it to be adjusted.20:30
kevin6888296iheartubuntu: have you read the 4 noble truths?20:30
kevin6888296"back out of alignment" is poorly defined in my brain20:31
kevin6888296i assume it doesn't mean "dislocated vertebrae"20:31
nhainesPretty much.20:31
kevin6888296perhaps then it's just "muscles around the spine aren't supporting it properly"20:32
nhainesNo, I think perhaps it's usually "violent movement caused dislocated vertabrae."20:34
kevin6888296so then it should show up on an x-ray20:35
nhainesProbably.20:35
kevin6888296no referal needed, ppo20:35
kevin6888296interesting20:35
kevin6888296i said doesn't20:35
nhainesNo you didn't.20:36
* kevin6888296 briefly wonders what a D.O. would say the problem is20:36
kevin6888296yes i did20:36
nhainesNo you didn't.20:36
iheartubuntumy chiro is 50 bucks, no info needed except my phone and address20:36
kevin6888296no u20:37
kevin6888296wow, that isn't expensive at all.  i thought chiro's would be more expensive20:37
iheartubuntui like the new hover bar for dragging up or down on empathy or web browser in natty20:37
kevin6888296i wonder how they pop dislocated vertebrae back into place...20:37
kevin6888296do they have you hang from a chinup bar?20:37
nhainesiheartubuntu: what browser do you use?20:37
iheartubuntui was in a car accident a few years ago and did give the insurance info which covered everythign at the time20:38
iheartubuntuchrome20:38
kevin6888296that's probably what i would do if i though i had dislocated vertebrae20:38
nhaineskevin6888296: they put you on a table and stretch your your spinal column until it realigns.20:38
kevin6888296*thought20:38
iheartubuntuwait i dont get that in chomre20:38
iheartubuntuchrome20:38
kevin6888296they put you on...*the rack*20:38
kevin6888296cooool20:39
kevin6888296don't get what in chrome iheartubuntu ?20:39
iheartubuntui like the apps in chrome even though they are just huge weblinks for the most part20:39
iheartubuntui didnt have to pay 50 in chrome20:40
kevin6888296that's good20:41
kevin6888296waits on ankles, hang, "aligns" back20:42
kevin6888296save $50?20:42
kevin6888296*weights20:42
kevin6888296hey, that gave me an idea.  that must be how these guys can do like 45 pull ups.  they use weights.20:43
kevin6888296should've known20:43
* kevin6888296 walks off a pier20:43
kevin6888296whoa, this is cool:  http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2011/04/investing-in-worlds-largest-solar-power.html20:47
iheartubuntuthere was a news article a few years ago saying that my local walmart had gone 80% solar20:48
iheartubuntuyou can see the entire walmart from the 57 freeway heading south (just south of the 210) and there is not one solar panel on the roof or on any of the property20:49
iheartubuntuwhat a scam20:49
iheartubuntuthe only thing they could have done is bought power generated by solar, which they didnt state20:50
iheartubuntumy electric bill rarely tops $20 a month. its mostly around $15, so solar wouldnt make too much sense for me, unless i was a renegade and wanted to detach from all gov sponsored programs (which i do)20:52
iheartubuntuive got all the parts for a vertical axis wind turbine... just need to build it. im interested to see how much (or how little) electricity i get from it20:53
kevin6888296wind turbine?  that's sound like 300 lbs of awesome21:01
kevin6888296how heavy is it?21:01
kevin6888296i just thought the solar tower thing was cool21:01
kevin6888296i had speculated on using mirror technology like 2 years ago, but of course, nobody i knew neither cared enough nor had the time to discuss it21:02
kevin6888296and i don't have a laboratory...sooo21:02
kevin6888296should've invested in one when i had the $21:02
kevin6888296bigons21:02
* kevin6888296 is making french fries21:03
iheartubuntuyou can build a VAWT on the cheap. lots of people are doing it. look around youtube for VAWT21:03
kevin6888296i was thinking about Jono, and how everybody loves Bacon.21:03
kevin6888296and i thought i should change my last name to "Potato"21:04
kevin6888296then i could go by "Mr. Potato"21:04
kevin6888296i only have $20021:04
kevin6888296and i need to be thrifty with it, hopefully i get a job before it's all gone21:04
* kevin6888296 smiles21:04
iheartubuntupeople are making VAWTs from rain gutters, PVC piping, you name it21:07
kevin6888296interesting, PVC piping21:07
kevin6888296how much did yours cost iheartubuntu ?21:07
kevin6888296i'll tell Juli21:08
iheartubuntuhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZXYUBNpa4Hg21:08
iheartubuntuthat one can produce 3Kw21:09
iheartubuntuwith almost no breeze21:09
iheartubuntuhere is another making about 2200kw a month... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FeTuAaC1JVo21:11
iheartubuntujust youtube VAWT or vertical axis wind turbine21:11
iheartubuntulots of good ideas spinning around21:11
kdubi'm sure the HOA would love that21:12
iheartubuntuyou can of course make smaller ones21:13
iheartubuntuput a smaller one on the garage or something.21:14
kevin6888296yeah, i just remembered, Juli rents21:14
kevin6888296we would have to rent from green landlords21:14
iheartubuntui have a huge steel pipe in my backyard. no idea what it was once used for (a hitching post?)... im going to hook mine up on top of it21:14
kevin6888296that would be cool with putting a wind turbine on the roof, there really is no other place to put it on this lot21:15
kevin6888296how many bedroom's is your house iheartubuntu ?21:15
iheartubuntuonly two right nowe21:16
iheartubuntunow21:16
iheartubuntuim expanding21:16
kevin6888296on the roof wouldn't be copasetic though21:22
kevin6888296expanding how?  i haven't followed your 1914 blog in awhile iheartubuntu21:22
iheartubuntui actually havent done much there in a while :)21:25
iheartubuntumy strawberries are coming in21:25
iheartubuntubig juicy red21:26
iheartubuntucant wait21:26
iheartubuntupeaches are coming in21:26
iheartubuntujust picked 3 cabbages yesterday21:26
iheartubuntubig ones too im guessing 3 lbs each one21:26
iheartubuntusuch a nice day yesterday21:26
* iheartubuntu is starting to like natty21:27
kevin6888296coooool21:27
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nhainesiheartubuntu: what do you like about it?21:35
iheartubuntuabout yesterday?21:36
iheartubuntuohh where do i begin21:36
iheartubuntuthe birds chirping21:36
iheartubuntuthe cat flip flopping on the warm walkway21:37
iheartubuntuthe puffy clouds above the mountain tops21:37
iheartubuntuthe snow on mt baldy21:37
iheartubuntuthe ice cream truck playing nursery rhymes from an 8-track21:38
iheartubuntuohh you mean natty21:38
iheartubuntuits very clean and polished21:38
iheartubuntuwith a the super key commands i was unhappy. i had them in compiz before, and never used them since i moused around21:39
iheartubuntusuper keys are nice21:39
iheartubuntui meant... without the superkeys i was unhappy using natty21:42
iheartubuntuactually, even with the superkeys, its still an extra step to get to another workspace21:42
iheartubuntusuperkeys make it easier, but id still prefer a place to mouse over and pick my workspace21:44
iheartubunturight now i miss being able to add things to the panel21:44
iheartubuntuand id be worried about increasing key commands with subsequent ubuntu releases21:46
iheartubuntuits just easier to mouse to where u need to go IMO21:47
seidosi want to be able to issue voice commands to my system21:47
seidostyping is so...archaic21:47
nhainesI always use Ctl-Alt-arrow to switch workspaces.21:48
seidosespecially with joint pain in the wrist21:48
seidossame here21:48
seidoskeyboard shortcuts are an improvement21:48
seidosi should download the most recent natty iso, last one i tried wouldn't run21:48
seidosironically, i suspect at some point my notebook will get stuck at some release, and no longer be able to run the latest and greatest version21:49
akkThat's normal.21:53
iheartubuntuIm doing super+S to see my workspaces21:57
seidosi should be planning for this inevitably22:03
seidosperhaps frequenting my favorite old hardware blog22:03
seidosmoving more and more things to the terminal would probably be a good idea22:03
iheartubuntuif your system works, you probably dont need to do anything, right?22:10
nhainesiheartubuntu: probably.22:20

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