[00:43] <jrwren> lucid? upgrade to natty
[00:46] <rick_h_> heh, yea. I know. I'm all behind the times
[00:46] <rick_h_> but not setting up a server to natty, I kind of like the 5yr plan
[02:41] <snap-l> re: UPSes, yeah, my power problems were because I have old wiring coming to the house
[02:41] <snap-l> and the contacts were really old.
[05:08] <snap-l> g'night
[12:49] <rick_h_> 12min until the awesome greg-g interview goes live
[12:57] <brousch> how long is it?
[12:58] <rick_h_> about 45min I think
[12:58] <rick_h_> just finished listening myself
[12:59] <rick_h_> 46.23
[13:03] <rick_h_> http://lococast.net/archives/475
[13:05] <rick_h_> appreciate any RT <3 http://twitter.com/#!/mitechie/status/57413806107799552
[13:34] <wolfger> I really wish journalists/editors would use an ounce of sense before writing headlines...
[13:34] <wolfger> "Speed possible factor in deadly motorcycle crash"
[13:34] <wolfger> No, it's a definite factor. I've never heard of a stationary motorcycle crashing.
[13:50] <snap-l> Good morning
[13:50] <rick_h_> party
[13:51] <snap-l> Actually, the interview is 57:45 (with bumpers)
[13:51] <snap-l> so, around 56 minutes in total
[13:52] <brousch> rick_h_: if you want RT love, you gotta leave us 14 unused characters :P
[13:52] <snap-l> wolfger: No, it's a possibility
[13:52] <brousch> otherwise i am forced to mangle your messge
[13:53] <rick_h_> brousch: hmm, only if you do old style RT
[13:53] <rick_h_> if you just use the normal RT it does it without touching the message
[13:53] <brousch> whatever hootsuite does
[13:53] <rick_h_> e.g. from the twitter website or whatever
[13:53] <snap-l> wolfger: the motorcycle might have crashed into a tree while on the back of a trailer. ;)
[13:53] <rick_h_> sorry hootsuite does it wrong and sucks
[13:53] <wolfger> snap-l: at which point, speed is still a factor. :-)
[13:55] <brousch> ah, i think found a setting for new style
[13:56] <rick_h_> there you go, ty sir
[13:58] <brousch> that's better
[14:01] <snap-l> Sent out a tweet / dent as well
[14:02] <brousch> i would dent, but i think my only followers on there are people already in this channel
[14:02] <brousch> d00d, should put it up on diaspora
[14:03] <snap-l> Yeah, that's a highly effective echo chamber.
[14:06] <wolfger> ROFL
[14:06] <wolfger> It's an echo-y chamber alright
[14:07] <brousch> ones of people will see my message there
[14:07] <wolfger> The Japanese have a word for "cell phone decorated with beads".... <shudder>
[14:08] <rick_h_> bedazzle?
[14:09] <brousch> rick_h_: isn't that for clothes?
[14:09] <brousch> or has it branched out since middle school?
[14:10] <wolfger> has it branched out???
[14:11] <brousch> i'm just glad i had a boy so i don't have to deal with it
[14:11]  * wolfger tell brousch *not* to Google "vajazzled", since he's obviously lived a sheltered life
[14:12] <brousch> my ignorance stems from my lack of pcon attendance
[14:14] <wolfger> well I hope you rectify that some day
[14:18] <rick_h_> snap-l: looks like I'm missing a lot of stuff: http://linuxoutlaws.com/podcast/200
[14:19] <brousch> geez
[14:31] <snap-l> rick_h_: That's someone who does studio recordings for a living. :)
[14:31] <snap-l> Or at least more than just a hobby.
[14:32] <snap-l> But yeah, golf. ;)
[14:33] <rick_h_> naw, all that berringer stuff, yuck
[14:33] <snap-l> I do however take issue with their show notes
[14:33] <rick_h_> and honestly, never been impressed with their sound
[14:33] <snap-l> I don't think anyone can listen to The Linux Link Tech Show
[14:33] <rick_h_> though good to know that's how they ustream and such as I've been looking at that
[14:34] <snap-l> Honestly, I'm a "get the sound into the computer as quickly and efficiently as possible"
[14:34] <snap-l> I can do wonders with it before it even hits the drive
[14:34] <snap-l> all of this pre-processing makes me nervous
[14:34] <snap-l> er, I mean, I can do wonders with it when it hits the drive
[14:34] <snap-l> after
[14:34] <snap-l> gah, clarity of thought elusive.
[14:39] <tjagoda> lol'
[14:39] <tjagoda> Its the heat burst from yesterday
[14:39] <tjagoda> I am in the same boat.
[14:40] <tjagoda> I never lived in a two-level home before
[14:40] <tjagoda> I think I may embark on an epic project of zoned temperature controls.
[14:41] <rick_h_> tjagoda: yea, two stories is awful since upstairs is always so hot
[14:42] <rick_h_> and downstairs is cool, but doesn't tend to be bedroom space
[14:45] <snap-l> Well, that and we had the window open last night
[14:45] <snap-l> so all through the night I was waiting for the rain to come in
[14:45] <tjagoda> I found a small fan
[14:45] <snap-l> thought JoDee might have stirred during the thunderstorm since she's the light sleeper, bot to no avail
[14:45] <tjagoda> which sits in place of the register cover
[14:45] <tjagoda> and is designed to increase the flow of air up the ducts to your upper floor
[14:46] <snap-l> Yes, I am a rat-bastard that will wait for my wife to close the window. ;)
[14:46] <tjagoda> I may purchase and see if it makes any impact
[14:46] <rick_h_> heh, yea we didn't get real rain to close until around 3 or 4 am
[14:46] <tjagoda> Yeah
[14:46] <rick_h_> I have a few vornado fans I use all year round
[14:47] <rick_h_> <3
[14:47] <rick_h_> in the winter put behind a radiator heater (electric) to help with the basement rooms
[14:47] <rick_h_> and in the summer, to help the whole house fan move air through the house/circulate the cold air from the AC
[14:47] <tjagoda> I already have central air
[14:48] <tjagoda> so with the proper application of solder and servo I could totally make a zoned system
[14:48] <tjagoda> Which hopefully would not burst into flames =P
[14:48] <rick_h_> lol
[14:49] <brousch> i have just learned which vents to open and close during which season
[14:49] <tjagoda> I psuedo do that
[14:49] <brousch> quad level home
[14:49] <tjagoda> Shut off the heat vents to my office in the winter since the PC heats it anyway
[14:54] <wolfger> tjagoda needs a better pc
[16:15] <tjagoda> wolfger: my PC generates so much heat because it is high performance
[16:15] <tjagoda> Well
[16:15] <tjagoda> it was a couple years ago
[16:15] <tjagoda> Dual Radeon HD4870's make most of the head
[16:15] <tjagoda> I have a Phenom II but I have that on liquid cooling
[16:17] <tjagoda> Hrm
[16:18] <tjagoda> This is an interesting one
[16:18] <tjagoda> laptop got a new battery
[16:18] <tjagoda> will run on the battery fine
[16:18] <tjagoda> but it will not boot unless plugged into the wall
[16:18] <tjagoda> Undervoltage battery?
[16:18] <snap-l>   MB Temperature:    +54.0°C  (high = +45.0°C, crit = +95.0°C)
[16:18] <snap-l> CPU Temperature:  +109.4°F  (high = +149.0°F, crit = +203.0°F)
[16:18] <snap-l> MB Temperature:   +129.2°F  (high = +113.0°F, crit = +203.0°F)
[16:18] <snap-l> That's my machine
[16:20] <snap-l> tjagoda: May need to be fully charged?
[16:20] <tjagoda> It is
[16:20] <tjagoda> It was a replacement battery
[16:20] <tjagoda> as the old one was old and no longer held charge
[16:20] <tjagoda> Basically, you get the: push power button -> Battery indicator blinks amber
[16:20] <tjagoda> which to me would indicate battery fault
[16:21] <tjagoda> yet it still runs like normal when its booted on power, then detached from power and run on battery
[16:22] <_stink_> shouldn't there be a spike in power draw on boot?
[16:22] <_stink_> id' be worried the battery isn't good.
[16:22] <_stink_> even if it can maintain a system already running.
[16:23] <tjagoda> I could probably just get CDW to RMA me a new battery
[16:23] <_stink_> that'd be my approach.
[16:26] <rick_h_> j+1
[16:26] <rick_h_> eeer, just +1
[16:32] <krondor> woot #xoom guys just got SD card working, stupid moto.
[16:46] <tjagoda> Hows everybody else's stability on Unity, btw?
[16:46] <snap-l> I'm not using it as a primary environment
[16:46] <snap-l> but overall it's OK
[16:47] <tjagoda> I discovered that walking away from my laptop for a few hours results in me coming back to it, frozen, in mid screensaver
[16:47] <tjagoda> 100% of the time
[16:47] <tjagoda> I use it gingerly
[16:47] <tjagoda> in fear that it will soon crash
[16:47] <tjagoda> I should switch back into Gnome classic and see if performance is more stable
[17:32] <wolfger> Anybody have any experience with or opinion on PyCamp?
[17:33] <rick_h_> nope
[17:33] <snap-l> none here
[17:46] <snap-l> jcastro: Where'd you guys go for the dino exhibit?
[17:59] <jrwren> can someone on identica reply to this and tell him "no it doesn't" http://identi.ca/notice/67394509
[18:03] <snap-l> jrwren: The several byte header is uncompressed
[18:05] <snap-l> though the @G limit is bullshit
[18:05] <snap-l> 2G
[18:09] <snap-l> There was a patch for certain OSes for >4GB
[18:14] <jcastro> snap-l: U of M paleontology museum
[18:14] <snap-l> Ah, cool
[18:20] <greg-g> rick_h_: / snap-l hey, uh, both DBO's and my interviews are labelled "episode 15" in the blog post title
[18:21] <rick_h_> oops
[18:21] <snap-l> Blame rick_h_
[18:21] <snap-l> ;)
[18:21] <rick_h_> copy/paste at the worst
[18:21] <rick_h_> yea, my fault
[18:21] <DBO> im the real episode 15
[18:21] <greg-g> will the real episode 15 please stand up
[18:21] <DBO> all the other episode 15's are just imitating
[18:21] <rick_h_> updated, thanks for the heads up
[18:21] <greg-g> no worries
[18:21] <rick_h_> what I get for working on crap right before bed
[18:21] <rick_h_> ugh, crazy weekend
[18:21] <greg-g> I bet
[18:22] <DBO> Im starting to think the entire world was on overdrive this weekend
[18:22] <rick_h_> and this is why we label .mp3 files by date vs episode number
[18:22] <rick_h_> DBO: heh, yea though nice when you get a lot done over a weekend
[18:22] <DBO> 14 bugs closed in a weekend
[18:22] <DBO> Im happy with myself
[18:27] <greg-g> I was on overdrive last week, you should see my status update for work, and that was with a day off to fly to SF for all of 15 hours of feet on the ground
[18:27] <_stink_> i think it's spring motivation.
[18:27] <snap-l> yeah, yesterday we went outside and started doing yardwork
[18:28] <krondor> the weather is making it really hard to focus on this documentation, god I hate doc.
[18:28] <greg-g> :)
[18:35] <rick_h_> man, this sucks. Review time has hit and I'm supposed to peer review people I did one project with.
[18:35] <rick_h_> i hated that project, it sucked, how do I know if it's them or the project?
[18:46] <snap-l> rick_h_: You don't. :)
[18:47] <rick_h_> snap-l: wheeee
[18:47] <rick_h_> how vague can I word these answers so as to remain anon and really not rate anything in particular
[18:50] <snap-l> "I'm not sure whether to blame the monkeys or the zoo-keeper for the amount of shit that was in the project cage".
[18:56] <Blazeix> "Bob is an achiever in the field of accomplishment."
[18:58] <rick_h_> thank you "meets expectations" drop down
[18:58] <rick_h_> "Yep, he met expectations by taking care of xxx and yyy"...
[18:58] <rick_h_> not checked for length so good so far
[18:58] <jrwren> snap-l: there is no limit for gzip... at least not the gnu version.
[18:59] <jrwren> cat uncompressed | gzip > compressed   # there is no limit here, its unpossible.
[19:05] <wolfger> the ambiguity of "meets expectations" is astounding
[19:05] <snap-l> It's the ultimate weasel phrase.
[19:05] <rick_h_> well, there's hints there for you
[19:05] <snap-l> jrwren: There was at one time on certain OSes
[19:06] <snap-l> 1.2.4
[19:06] <snap-l> but the analysis that the person made is bogus
[19:33] <jrwren> right.
[19:33] <snap-l> I <3 calls that go completely off the rails.
[20:01] <snap-l> yay, a request for a status report
[20:02] <snap-l> Otherwise known as the 1 hour you'll never get back reporting the 7 hours fretting over what to put in the status report.
[20:04] <snap-l> rick_h_: 15:02 < jono_> snap-l, nice work on the lococast :-)
[20:05] <rick_h_> nice
[20:05] <rick_h_> on which part?
[20:05] <rick_h_> or just in general?
[20:05] <snap-l> Not sure
[20:05] <rick_h_> wondering if he checked out greg or DBO or what
[20:05] <snap-l> Told him to thank you as well
[20:05] <rick_h_> ah, nice
[20:05] <rick_h_> well cool, I think we're on track. We kept saying a year and I looked it up, 6/21 is one year
[20:06] <snap-l> heh
[20:06] <snap-l> train kept-a-rollin' all night long
[20:08] <rick_h_> snap-l: so greg-g's interview
[20:09] <snap-l> yes?
[20:10] <rick_h_> snap-l: that's what he was checking out that prompted the comment
[20:11] <rick_h_> sorry, back to jono
[20:11] <snap-l> Ah, OK.
[20:11] <snap-l> Well, greg-g is interesting to talk  to anyway. ;)
[20:12] <snap-l> and greg-g is _so dreamy_
[20:12] <rick_h_> lol
[20:13] <brousch> it's the beard
[20:20] <snap-l> I'm installing Python under Windows
[20:20] <snap-l> fear me
[20:21] <rick_h_> there's a disturbance in the force
[20:21]  * greg-g blushes
[20:23] <greg-g> snap-l: where did jono say that? PM?
[20:24] <rick_h_> greg-g: yea
[20:24] <brousch> snap-l: it's really quite nice. windows becomes 100x more useful afterwards
[20:24] <snap-l> greg-g: and in the severed fifth channel
[20:25] <snap-l> though not with a link to the direct eposide
[20:25] <snap-l> episode, even
[20:28] <greg-g> cool
[20:39] <greg-g> sad that he hasn't said anything to me ;)
[20:39] <greg-g> (he == jono)
[20:39] <snap-l> Not sure if the network is the problem, but boy is this miserable.
[20:39] <rick_h_> lol, he knows where the true great work was done, snap-l then me, and then the talent :P
[20:40] <rick_h_> and only came to me because snap-l said to tell me
[20:41] <snap-l> Yeah, it's because I'm fantastic. :)
[20:42] <rick_h_> well, he's we know you have your total OMC fame
[20:42] <rick_h_> bah
[20:42] <rick_h_> that came out a bit twisted
[20:43] <snap-l> skippy we damn know
[20:43] <snap-l> Does windows seriously not explode eggs?
[21:08] <greg-g> lol
[21:09] <snap-l> I hate corporate proxies
[21:10] <krondor> snap-l: ++ (or wait +1 is the new coolness right?)
[21:10] <_stink_> is it?
[21:10] <snap-l> Since google is so in to Python, I'd think they'd use reaction = reaction + 1
[21:11] <snap-l> [Like]
[21:11] <snap-l> [fuck facebook]
[21:15] <jrwren> i don't like broken eggs.
[23:27] <snap-l> Hurray for meetings
[23:29] <rick_h_> yay?
[23:29] <snap-l> stil in one
[23:30] <rick_h_> oh
[23:39] <brousch> must … resist … troll … post
[23:39] <brousch> "A client wants me to convert their asp/mssql webapp to php/mysql."
[23:40] <rick_h_> run!
[23:41] <brousch> it's from the grlug list
[23:42] <brousch> I'm not sure that's really an improvement
[23:48] <Blazeix> brousch++ for using actual ellipses
[23:50] <brousch> adium did it for me
[23:50] <brousch> i did three periods
[23:51] <Blazeix> well fine. I revoke my ++ and target it at adium.