[00:08] <Cheri703> any good recommendations for cloning a hdd? I'm seeing dd, but didn't know if there are others
[00:09] <deejoe> first, you get an hdd oocyte, and remove its nucleus . . .
[00:10] <deejoe> srsly, though, Cheri703, I like to sfdisk -d /dev/sdfoo > sdfoo.sfdisk
[00:10] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[00:10] <deejoe> and then apply that to the target disk
[00:10] <deejoe> (assuming same size)
[00:10] <Cheri703> going from 160gb hdd to external 500gb
[00:10] <deejoe> hmm
[00:10] <Cheri703> have to send in netbook for repairs
[00:11] <deejoe> in general, I like to partition the new drive, make a filesystem on it (mkfs), mount up the new drive, rsync stuff to it
[00:11] <deejoe> dd feels too black-box for my tastes
[00:11] <Cheri703> well, I want to put it back when I get the computer back
[00:11] <deejoe> some people like 'dump' and 'restore'
[00:12] <Cheri703> what do you mean "black-box"?
[00:12] <deejoe> as in, it just shovels a bunch of bits over
[00:12] <deejoe> no error checking
[00:12] <Cheri703> k
[00:12] <deejoe> no ability to restart
[00:13] <deejoe> so, if the dd gets interrupted, you have to start over from the very beginning.
[00:13] <deejoe> rsync is smart enough not to copy everything again if a partial copy has been made
[00:13] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[00:13] <deejoe> but, you don't get the boot sector and stuff
[00:14] <deejoe> it's . . . complicated
[00:14] <Cheri703> I'd like to be able to boot from it, so I can use it with other laptop, then clone new info back to netbook
[00:14] <Unit193> I do the lazyman way with Clonezilla
[00:14] <deejoe> Unit193 might be your go-to person on this.
[00:15] <Cheri703> Unit193: does clonezilla copy EVERYTHING?
[00:15] <Cheri703> as in, bootable drive?
[00:15] <Unit193> Yeah!
[00:15] <Unit193> I did it twice (once on XP)
[00:15] <Cheri703> kk
[00:15] <Cheri703> hmmm...k
[00:15] <Unit193> You KNOW if windows can handle it, linux really can
[00:16] <Cheri703> does it wipe the destination drive? (as in, could I keep info on it, or do I need to clear it?
[00:16] <Unit193> You could move it onto another partition (I think)
[00:17] <Cheri703> hmm...k
[00:17] <Unit193> LiveCD (menu style)
[00:27] <canthus13> bah. I just use dd.
[00:28] <canthus13> Speaking of which, I need to back up the windows install on wife's other drive and resize it so she can dual boot to use Steam.
[00:57] <Cheri703> back in a while, hopefully after cloning
[01:33] <Cheri703> transferring junk off of external hdd :/
[01:33] <Cheri703> taking forever
[01:33] <deejoe> yes, it will
[01:33] <Cheri703> luckily I just cleared space on my desktop
[01:33]  * deejoe got to read another friend complain about xferring 160GB at the end of last week
[01:33] <Cheri703> luckily it's not much
[01:34] <Cheri703> I was able to get rid of a bunch of crap from it
[02:40] <canthus13> Hmm.
[02:40] <Cheri703> ?
[02:41] <canthus13> Fighting with wireless and my new router.
[02:41] <Cheri703> ah
[02:41] <Cheri703> ooo, that reminds me
[02:41] <Cheri703> brb
[02:42] <canthus13> Can't seem to mount my nfs shares now. :(
[02:42] <canthus13> Some of them, anyway...
[03:11] <canthus13> This is the WEIRDEST problem.  I installed a new router... Now, as soon as I start rsync, it kills my ssh connection to a different machine.  I can ssh into another machine and then back over to the target machine, but I can't ssh directly to it.
[03:12] <canthus13> ...and this persists even after stopping rsync.
[03:12] <canthus13> ...for a while. now it's working.
[03:15] <Unit193> ufw or anything like that?
[03:16] <canthus13> nope.
[03:16] <canthus13> didn't have any issues like this until I installed the new router.
[03:16] <canthus13> It's a Linksys E2000.
[03:16] <Unit193> F/W?
[03:16]  * canthus13 is poking around the config options right now.
[03:17] <canthus13> F/W? Firewall? Firmware?
[03:18] <Unit193> Firmware... (don't think that would be an issue, just fun)
[03:19] <canthus13> 1.0.0.3  Stock firmware.. I've had it a little over an hour.. not enough time to install DD-WRT. :)
[03:20] <canthus13> Anyway. time to reboot my server and see if it freaks out.
[03:20] <Unit193> DD-WRT?? not Tomato? (or TomatoUSB)
[03:21] <canthus13> Tomato won't install on an E2000.
[03:21] <Unit193> http://tomatousb.org/doc:build-types
[03:22] <canthus13> Ah. cool.
[03:22] <Unit193> Can you tell what I like better ;)
[03:23] <canthus13> Heh.  I'm fine with the stock firmware for now.
[03:24] <canthus13> anyway.. back in a few, as long as the server doesn't freak.
[05:19] <TLBulous> hello?
[06:35]  * Cheri703 is running from cloned stuff on external hdd :)
[15:04] <Derath-Srvr> wb
[15:05] <Cheri703> hi
[15:06] <o0splitpaw0o> hi
[15:08] <Cheri703> I get to apply for my passport today! :D
[15:11] <Derath-Srvr> Cool
[15:18] <Derath-Srvr> having connection issues Cheri?
[15:18] <Cheri703> that was weird
[15:19] <Cheri703> I'm running from my external hdd, and everything went wonky
[15:19] <Cheri703> anyway, what I'd tried to say before it crapped out is: I'm applying for my passport today!
[15:19] <Derath-Srvr> Cool!
[15:20] <Derath-Srvr> iirc, make sure to take 2+ forms of picture IDs...
[15:21] <Cheri703> well, it says birth certificate and drivers license
[15:22] <Derath-Srvr> Ah
[15:22] <Derath-Srvr> That should work then :)
[15:22] <Derath-Srvr> It's been a long time since I looked into that...
[15:24] <Cheri703> I've never had one
[15:24] <Derath-Srvr> I looked into it several years back when I thought I wanted to take a trip...
[15:24] <Derath-Srvr> Never got past the research part...
[15:26] <Derath-Srvr> lots of things happened and I decided the trip wasn't in the near future lol
[15:29] <Cheri703> heh, yeah, that has happened to me before
[15:30] <Cheri703> now I have to have it in less than a month! hooray rush processing!
[15:32] <Derath-Srvr> lol
[18:26] <Derath-Srvr> :P
[20:00] <Derath-Srvr> Hmmm... wonder how small my log would be if the joins/quits weren't shown lol
[20:24] <Derath-Srvr> wb
[20:25] <Cheri703> thanks
[20:37] <BiosElement> Anyone interested in the future of the CubeCreate Project: www.goo.gl/WlXvI (Convore discussion)
[22:18] <BiosElement> Anyone around? Need domain name advice: Anyone like the name bioshub.com?
[22:18] <dmcglone> Hello everyone
[22:18] <dmcglone> gonna sell bios chips?
[22:19] <BiosElement> Heh, It's actually a reference to the Latin word :P
[22:19] <BiosElement> Meaning life heh
[22:20] <dmcglone> well thats what came to mind when you asked about it :-/
[22:20] <BiosElement> I figured heh
[22:21] <dmcglone> If I seen the name in a search engine, thats what I'd assume :-/
[22:21] <BiosElement> dmcglone: Some would, yes. I'm actually a fan of the double meaning myself.
[22:22] <dmcglone> I don't blame you, it would help with traffic :-)
[22:22] <BiosElement> haha, perhaps :P
[22:22] <dmcglone> biosboy would too
[22:22] <dmcglone> lol
[22:22] <BiosElement> Technically a Bios is the 'life' of a PC as well so it's got a pretty sweet meaning behind it
[22:23] <BiosElement> Going to see if I can get BiosHub.com to flow a bit better though
[22:23] <dmcglone> true, very true
[22:23]  * BiosElement is totally a jackass, stealing the -Hub idea from github
[22:23] <dmcglone> I don't see how. I see the word everywhere
[22:24] <dmcglone> I used "centeral"
[22:24] <BiosElement> Yeah, I was thinking of using it but it was a wee bit long for my taste
[22:25] <dmcglone> I tried to give my site the feel of a city
[22:25] <dmcglone> lol
[22:26] <dmcglone> like the metropolis
[22:28] <BiosElement> Yeah
[22:28] <dmcglone> are you thinking of starting a blog?
[22:28] <BiosElement> Nah, I already own BiosElement.com, I'm working on a F/OSS project that needs a more generic domain the CubeCreate heh
[22:29] <dmcglone> yeah I remember that
[22:34] <BiosElement> biosbay.com? >.>
[22:34] <BiosElement> heh
[22:35] <dmcglone> but that doesn't say much about the project
[22:36] <BiosElement> True heh
[22:37] <dmcglone> why not use cubecreate.com?
[22:38] <BiosElement> Ahh I may well end up using it heh
[22:49] <dmcglone> are you going to be looking for hosting also?
[22:53] <BiosElement> Ahh I've got a linode squared away from the previous project.
[22:53] <dmcglone> cool
[22:53] <BiosElement> Pretty big fan of them ^_^
[22:56] <dmcglone> I'm checking them out now
[22:57] <BiosElement> Best deal around for quality VPS's
[22:57] <BiosElement> And they have great tech support, who don't tend to pawn of problems they could easily blame on others. >.>
[22:58] <BiosElement> Though I've only had to use it once heh
[22:58] <dmcglone> it looks good
[22:59] <dmcglone> expensive though
[22:59] <BiosElement> It's about the best deal on a VPS you'll find, personally I wouldn't go back to shared hosting
[23:00] <dmcglone> good thing I don't use shared hosting :-)
[23:00] <BiosElement> heh
[23:01] <dmcglone> with shared hosing everyone fights for the resources. IMHO it's stupid
[23:01] <BiosElement> Yep
[23:02] <dmcglone> they think they are getting it really cheap, until they find out their site is down all the dang time
[23:02] <BiosElement> ^
[23:11] <dmcglone> what is your vision for your project?
[23:17] <dmcglone> BiosElement: is the project still looking for a website admin?
[23:18] <BiosElement> dmcglone: The vision for the project is being discussed, since I had a revolt (which wasn't really unexpected) I have a unique chance to rework the foundations. We're having a pretty awesome discussion on Convore www.goo.gl/WlXvI (Convore discussion)
[23:18] <BiosElement> And https://gist.github.com/912801
[23:22] <dmcglone> I'm heading over to cube's channel