| vychune | whatcha doing | 00:05 |
|---|---|---|
| cyberanger | downloading the beta again | 00:06 |
| vychune | why? | 00:07 |
| cyberanger | I removed the image after I burned it, left that disc at work | 00:07 |
| vychune | ohhhh | 00:08 |
| vychune | bummer | 00:08 |
| cyberanger | and with the new beta about it hit, helps to have a current image nearby | 00:08 |
| cyberanger | for zsync or jigdo | 00:08 |
| cyberanger | (or even a torrent really) | 00:08 |
| vychune | true true | 00:08 |
| cyberanger | and after that, usually the final release is only 30mb of changes, which is extremely quick to grab | 00:12 |
| cyberanger | 5mb of jigdo data and nobody touching the archive mirrors much | 00:13 |
| vychune | hm | 00:13 |
| cyberanger | just usual apt-get stuff (and so many people burn a disc to reinstall, and even then, most ignore the mirrors, leave their /etc/apt/sources.list file stock, archive.ubuntu.com suffers, RIT, MIT, UTK, so many ignored mirrors) | 00:14 |
| vychune | wait UTK has a mirrior? | 00:15 |
| cyberanger | well, had, for sure, forget if they've kept it going right | 00:16 |
| cyberanger | GA Tech does | 00:16 |
| cyberanger | usually a little better from chatt. | 00:16 |
| vychune | oh ok | 00:17 |
| cyberanger | and the best is mirror.anl.gov in chicago, usually | 00:18 |
| cyberanger | fatter pipe offsets the distance through more routers | 00:18 |
| vychune | good to know | 00:19 |
| cyberanger | it's a per connection thing, but that seems to hold for most of TN | 00:20 |
| vychune | ok hen | 00:20 |
| vychune | *then | 00:20 |
| cyberanger | my connections in hotspots over most of the state, that's what I saw | 00:21 |
| cyberanger | vychune: jigdo and zsync really do come in handy though | 00:23 |
| cyberanger | I had maverick before most of the mirrors due to that | 00:23 |
| cyberanger | and I bet before any US based one | 00:23 |
| vychune | i usually dont download i order the cd when i want one | 00:23 |
| chris4585 | vychune, did you hear they retired that service? | 00:24 |
| vychune | oh crap | 00:24 |
| chris4585 | shipit wont be around after 11.04 | 00:24 |
| vychune | well i guess ill dish out the 15 bucks next time then | 00:24 |
| cyberanger | you can buy to ship it | 00:24 |
| cyberanger | just the annoyingly named 'shipit' is kaput | 00:25 |
| cyberanger | and approved locos are taking that up | 00:25 |
| cyberanger | and I knew there was something else for the meeting, that was it | 00:25 |
| chris4585 | ah yeah | 00:25 |
| vychune | \cool | 00:26 |
| vychune | brb hungry | 00:26 |
| Xpistos | what up err body | 13:50 |
| wrst | hey Xpistos | 13:51 |
| Xpistos | hey how can I put an FTP share in my fstab? | 14:48 |
| wrst | UGH Xpistos i don't know never done that before but i bet cyberanger has | 14:51 |
| wrst | Xpistos: there appears to be a package called curlftpfs that enables you to do this | 14:53 |
| Xpistos | i found that but I can't seem to get it correct | 14:54 |
| Xpistos | ultimately what I want is I am getting away from dropbox and using my ftp share, but I want it to rsync when I login | 14:54 |
| wrst | hmm Xpistos dropbox is too easy for me to get away from :) | 14:57 |
| Xpistos | I wish they would get that sparkle share thing running | 14:58 |
| wrst | hello again pace_t_zulu :) | 19:46 |
| Xpistos | hey pace_t_zulu | 20:11 |
| cyberanger | never used ftp like that, plaintext | 20:27 |
| wrst | good afternoon cyberanger | 20:30 |
| wrst | and afternoon Kurisu_Yamato | 20:31 |
| pace_t_zulu | hey guys | 20:31 |
| wrst | how are you doing pace_t_zulu? | 20:33 |
| pace_t_zulu | ok wrst , you? | 20:34 |
| wrst | doing well pace_t_zulu have you tried out gnome3/shell? | 20:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst, not yet, you? | 20:35 |
| wrst | yes pace_t_zulu i'm living it | 20:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: how does it compare with unity in your mind? | 20:35 |
| wrst | much better pace_t_zulu | 20:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: any hardware issues you had to resolve before it worked? | 20:36 |
| wrst | no pace_t_zulu i did an upgrade on arch linux from gnome 2.32 | 20:37 |
| wrst | had a small issue where a gnome 2 config was messing with gnome 3 but a quick google fixed that | 20:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | that'll probably get fixed by a point update | 20:38 |
| wrst | yes but pace_t_zulu unity is ok but gnome shell i think is better i like their ideas and really sets them apart from mac interface or windows | 20:39 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i'm underwhelmed by unity | 20:39 |
| pace_t_zulu | there are good ideas there, but it is not yet an improvement on gnome 2.x | 20:40 |
| wrst | yes if i continue using ubuntu when 11.04 comes out i will probably use gnome 3 from the ppa | 20:40 |
| wrst | no pace_t_zulu its not | 20:40 |
| wrst | i thought unity was pretty good until i used gnome shell | 20:41 |
| wrst | not to say unity can't be that good | 20:41 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: how is gnome shell's performance compared to unity | 20:47 |
| pace_t_zulu | more or less responsive? | 20:47 |
| wrst | more responsive i think, but i am running it on arch and arch by nature is a lean distro but i have it up to the same functionality of an ubuntu install so won't be a lot of difference | 20:50 |
| wrst | but clutter, while not as fancy, just feels quicker than compiz | 20:50 |
| cyberanger | afternoon wrst | 20:59 |
| wrst | hello cyberanger how you doing? | 20:59 |
| cyberanger | pretty good, drawing up some carputer blueprints | 21:01 |
| wrst | ahh a carputer... interesting | 21:05 |
| cyberanger | I think I've gone overboard already | 21:06 |
| cyberanger | to some extent | 21:06 |
| wrst | cyberanger: that much does not surprise me ;) | 21:06 |
| cyberanger | just sounds like me huh | 21:07 |
| wrst | slightly ;) | 21:09 |
| cyberanger | esp. since I don't have a car | 21:10 |
| cyberanger | but I figured that my cell does most of what I'd need in a carputer, outside of ham radio | 21:12 |
| cyberanger | I focused it on red cross and ARES work | 21:12 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i have found with my phone i can do about anything thats needed for mobility's sake | 21:13 |
| wrst | hello nameless | 21:13 |
| cyberanger | hello nameless | 21:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | so you guys greet this 'nameless' guy and not me? | 21:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | ;P | 21:14 |
| cyberanger | wrst: true, that's why I focused on goals where the phone was at aloss | 21:14 |
| wrst | ha pace_t_zulu your not a visitor :) | 21:14 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: we greeted you a few times, your join&quit rate made me wonder if you were afk on a bad link | 21:14 |
| wrst | but pace_t_zulu i think unity has promise but after seeing gnome shell i think unity may be stuck in the past just a little bit | 21:15 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger... dealing with connectivity | 21:15 |
| pace_t_zulu | 'nameless' is me ... for diagnostic purposes | 21:15 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: understand that, done that myself | 21:15 |
| wrst | well hello there nameless ;) | 21:15 |
| nameless | hi | 21:16 |
| cyberanger | 20k iden celluar connection was the last time, kinda poinless what I tried doing | 21:16 |
| cyberanger | over itthough | 21:16 |
| cyberanger | wrst: there are limits with the cell phone, but it's almost entirely an issue of interfacing to my radios | 21:17 |
| wrst | ok :) | 21:17 |
| cyberanger | I listened to a hockey game being held in Windsor, ON, nearest station was AM in Erie, PA and I was 500+ miles further away, getting high quality sterio as I walked home, only to hear them lose | 21:18 |
| cyberanger | that's the power of android | 21:18 |
| cyberanger | (I hate this but it was more of a winner than my hockey team) | 21:19 |
| cyberanger | but the flaw is it's dependance on celluar networks | 21:20 |
| wrst | well if they had been on a clear channel AM and it was night you might could have gotten it over the air? :) | 21:21 |
| cyberanger | I had GPS tracker on me, trying to map the area, and it's a lot of dead bits | 21:22 |
| cyberanger | not huge in area, exactly, but enough to trip tcp up, so the XM app over the XM tuner, I'd grab thetuner | 21:22 |
| cyberanger | pittsburgh drowns it out (I've tried ;-)) | 21:23 |
| cyberanger | I've gotten Chicago and Pittsburgh and Buffalo | 21:23 |
| cyberanger | and never while mobile | 21:23 |
| wrst | the braves used to be on 750 out of atlanta but much closer i could pick it up like it was next door | 21:25 |
| cyberanger | the gps tracker I used was APRSDroid, here's the kicker, that same area, a proper APRS setup transmitting and reciving on 144.390MHz (as a ham I can) it would have beaten the cell network | 21:25 |
| cyberanger | yeah, too close for the sport of it though (only chattanooga in the way, and chattanooga's AM isn't really there as it is) | 21:27 |
| cyberanger | I'd maybe do it to say I did, but it's just to close to me | 21:28 |
| cyberanger | (keep in mind, downtown Dalton GA is closer than downtown chattanooga to me, the airport is barely as close as the state line) | 21:29 |
| cyberanger | it'd be nice for the experience anyhow, but celluar and radio is two different beasts | 21:31 |
| cyberanger | (cb and ham radio that is) | 21:31 |
| cyberanger | and that's why I decided to do this | 21:31 |
| pace_t_zulu | scrollbars are now black in natty.... weird | 21:33 |
| cyberanger | oh and it'll run ubuntu (of course ;-)) | 21:33 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: wow, that is indeed weird | 21:34 |
| cyberanger | kinda cool to theme, but as stock, hrm | 21:34 |
| cyberanger | I'll have to take pictures of this | 21:35 |
| cyberanger | wrst: what apps do you use on your droid | 21:49 |
| cyberanger | and have you rooted it and changed firmware? | 21:49 |
| === Xpistos1 is now known as Xpistos | ||
| wrst | haven't rooted cyberanger, main apps are quasseldroid, irssiconnectbot along with dolphin browser | 21:52 |
| wrst | so cyberanger i don't use much stuff thats way out there | 21:52 |
| Xpistos | cyberanger: can you tell me how to add an FTP share in my fstab? | 21:52 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: perhaps, but it'd be easier to tell you I've never done that (preferring sftp, over plain ftp) | 21:55 |
| cyberanger | lemme find out on it | 21:56 |
| Xpistos | well I want to rsync the share | 21:56 |
| cyberanger | wrst: no audio even (pandora, streamfurious, or built in) | 21:56 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: ssh not an option? | 21:56 |
| Xpistos | Hmm, it is a godaddy account but I haven't tried? | 21:57 |
| Xpistos | let me see | 21:57 |
| cyberanger | you might need to enable first | 21:57 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i do use a couple of apps to listen to a radio station here and there but for the most part i'm at home or work with a computer or on the road with satellite radio | 21:57 |
| cyberanger | but I believe they do | 21:57 |
| cyberanger | wrst: yeah, satellite radio has a few limitations (namely the lack of a truely portable radio, the ones I've really seen that I could get need an external antenna, great for home or car, not for bus or boots) | 21:58 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: shared? | 21:59 |
| wrst | no certainly not | 21:59 |
| Xpistos | let me check it says yes | 22:00 |
| Xpistos | help.godaddy.com/article/4942 | 22:00 |
| Xpistos | http://help.godaddy.com/article/4942 | 22:00 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: are you just wanting this for backups | 22:00 |
| cyberanger | weekly backups | 22:01 |
| Xpistos | no, i have an ftp site that I am using and need to move files back and forth | 22:01 |
| Xpistos | that isn't a bad idea either though. If I can automate my backups I will be giddy | 22:01 |
| cyberanger | godaddy is the ftp site, or the other end? | 22:02 |
| Xpistos | that is the FTP site | 22:03 |
| Xpistos | I have a dedicate hosting account with them | 22:03 |
| cyberanger | and ssh/sftp too | 22:03 |
| cyberanger | and it's dedicated, not shared then? | 22:04 |
| Xpistos | yes | 22:04 |
| Xpistos | sorry | 22:04 |
| Xpistos | I have a dedicated IP | 22:04 |
| Xpistos | force of habit | 22:04 |
| cyberanger | and the idea is just rsync | 22:06 |
| cyberanger | not a NAS type deal | 22:06 |
| cyberanger | either way, this appears doable | 22:06 |
| Xpistos | If I can boot my system and it will automagically run the rsync without me, I call it a win! | 22:07 |
| Xpistos | sort of a dropbox type setup | 22:07 |
| Xpistos | pace_t_zulu_ your going to give me a seizure | 22:07 |
| cyberanger | rsync can go over ssh, but godaddy inhibits that, but there is another way to get the same result, with sshfs | 22:07 |
| cyberanger | sudo apt-get install rsync sshfs | 22:08 |
| Xpistos | Well according to this it will take 24-72 hours to get the SSH active. | 22:10 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: then sshfs does the mounting, followed by rsync running, and unmount sshfs | 22:10 |
| Xpistos | that is cool | 22:10 |
| Xpistos | I will get with you later about getting the fstab stuff done once the ssh is good to go | 22:11 |
| cyberanger | ah, I see, I hate that about them, kinda slow for something automated and simplistic | 22:11 |
| cyberanger | Xpistos: you could setup some of the client side now | 22:11 |
| Xpistos | hit me with it dude | 22:12 |
| cyberanger | sudo apt-get install sshfs rsync | 22:12 |
| Xpistos | both newest version | 22:13 |
| cyberanger | then we need to generate a seperate ssh key (for the script) with no passphrase on it (or you'll be propted every time, not necessarlly a bad thing) | 22:13 |
| cyberanger | ssh-keygen -b 4096 | 22:13 |
| cyberanger | when it askes where you want it saved, .ssh/id_godaddy | 22:14 |
| cyberanger | is a good choice | 22:14 |
| Xpistos | generating now | 22:14 |
| cyberanger | from here, things get a little more dependant on the server end too, so we'll leave off here | 22:15 |
| === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu | ||
| pace_t_zulu | sorry guys about all the connect/disconnect noise | 22:28 |
| * cyberanger accepts pace_t_zulu's apology, hands pace_t_zulu a peice of fiber optic cable to help | 22:31 | |
| pace_t_zulu | apparently opendns doesn't resolve freenode.net | 22:35 |
| pace_t_zulu | but chat.us.freenode.net works | 22:38 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: resolving here, to 140.211.167.100 | 22:43 |
| cyberanger | but that's their webserver, not their irc server | 22:44 |
| cyberanger | same as www.freenode.net | 22:44 |
| pace_t_zulu | sorry... irc.freenode.net | 22:45 |
| pace_t_zulu | opendns doesn't resolve it | 22:45 |
| cyberanger | here it is, CNAME chat.freenode.net | 22:45 |
| cyberanger | which lists all servers | 22:46 |
| cyberanger | are you on your home network? | 22:46 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: no | 22:46 |
| chris4585 | I think there was a cat living in my keyboard | 23:53 |
| chris4585 | I was a little shocked, I cleaned it out with a needle | 23:54 |
| wrst | ha ha chris4585 | 23:57 |
| chris4585 | I really hope they fix gnome shell to where it wont remove unity sometime soon | 23:58 |
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