[00:05] whatcha doing [00:06] downloading the beta again [00:07] why? [00:07] I removed the image after I burned it, left that disc at work [00:08] ohhhh [00:08] bummer [00:08] and with the new beta about it hit, helps to have a current image nearby [00:08] for zsync or jigdo [00:08] (or even a torrent really) [00:08] true true [00:12] and after that, usually the final release is only 30mb of changes, which is extremely quick to grab [00:13] 5mb of jigdo data and nobody touching the archive mirrors much [00:13] hm [00:14] just usual apt-get stuff (and so many people burn a disc to reinstall, and even then, most ignore the mirrors, leave their /etc/apt/sources.list file stock, archive.ubuntu.com suffers, RIT, MIT, UTK, so many ignored mirrors) [00:15] wait UTK has a mirrior? [00:16] well, had, for sure, forget if they've kept it going right [00:16] GA Tech does [00:16] usually a little better from chatt. [00:17] oh ok [00:18] and the best is mirror.anl.gov in chicago, usually [00:18] fatter pipe offsets the distance through more routers [00:19] good to know [00:20] it's a per connection thing, but that seems to hold for most of TN [00:20] ok hen [00:20] *then [00:21] my connections in hotspots over most of the state, that's what I saw [00:23] vychune: jigdo and zsync really do come in handy though [00:23] I had maverick before most of the mirrors due to that [00:23] and I bet before any US based one [00:23] i usually dont download i order the cd when i want one [00:24] vychune, did you hear they retired that service? [00:24] oh crap [00:24] shipit wont be around after 11.04 [00:24] well i guess ill dish out the 15 bucks next time then [00:24] you can buy to ship it [00:25] just the annoyingly named 'shipit' is kaput [00:25] and approved locos are taking that up [00:25] and I knew there was something else for the meeting, that was it [00:25] ah yeah [00:26] \cool [00:26] brb hungry [13:50] what up err body [13:51] hey Xpistos [14:48] hey how can I put an FTP share in my fstab? [14:51] UGH Xpistos i don't know never done that before but i bet cyberanger has [14:53] Xpistos: there appears to be a package called curlftpfs that enables you to do this [14:54] i found that but I can't seem to get it correct [14:54] ultimately what I want is I am getting away from dropbox and using my ftp share, but I want it to rsync when I login [14:57] hmm Xpistos dropbox is too easy for me to get away from :) [14:58] I wish they would get that sparkle share thing running [19:46] hello again pace_t_zulu :) [20:11] hey pace_t_zulu [20:27] never used ftp like that, plaintext [20:30] good afternoon cyberanger [20:31] and afternoon Kurisu_Yamato [20:31] hey guys [20:33] how are you doing pace_t_zulu? [20:34] ok wrst , you? [20:34] doing well pace_t_zulu have you tried out gnome3/shell? [20:35] wrst, not yet, you? [20:35] yes pace_t_zulu i'm living it [20:35] wrst: how does it compare with unity in your mind? [20:36] much better pace_t_zulu [20:36] wrst: any hardware issues you had to resolve before it worked? [20:37] no pace_t_zulu i did an upgrade on arch linux from gnome 2.32 [20:37] had a small issue where a gnome 2 config was messing with gnome 3 but a quick google fixed that [20:38] that'll probably get fixed by a point update [20:39] yes but pace_t_zulu unity is ok but gnome shell i think is better i like their ideas and really sets them apart from mac interface or windows [20:39] wrst: i'm underwhelmed by unity [20:40] there are good ideas there, but it is not yet an improvement on gnome 2.x [20:40] yes if i continue using ubuntu when 11.04 comes out i will probably use gnome 3 from the ppa [20:40] no pace_t_zulu its not [20:41] i thought unity was pretty good until i used gnome shell [20:41] not to say unity can't be that good [20:47] wrst: how is gnome shell's performance compared to unity [20:47] more or less responsive? [20:50] more responsive i think, but i am running it on arch and arch by nature is a lean distro but i have it up to the same functionality of an ubuntu install so won't be a lot of difference [20:50] but clutter, while not as fancy, just feels quicker than compiz [20:59] afternoon wrst [20:59] hello cyberanger how you doing? [21:01] pretty good, drawing up some carputer blueprints [21:05] ahh a carputer... interesting [21:06] I think I've gone overboard already [21:06] to some extent [21:06] cyberanger: that much does not surprise me ;) [21:07] just sounds like me huh [21:09] slightly ;) [21:10] esp. since I don't have a car [21:12] but I figured that my cell does most of what I'd need in a carputer, outside of ham radio [21:12] I focused it on red cross and ARES work [21:13] cyberanger: i have found with my phone i can do about anything thats needed for mobility's sake [21:13] hello nameless [21:13] hello nameless [21:14] so you guys greet this 'nameless' guy and not me? [21:14] ;P [21:14] wrst: true, that's why I focused on goals where the phone was at aloss [21:14] ha pace_t_zulu your not a visitor :) [21:14] pace_t_zulu: we greeted you a few times, your join&quit rate made me wonder if you were afk on a bad link [21:15] but pace_t_zulu i think unity has promise but after seeing gnome shell i think unity may be stuck in the past just a little bit [21:15] cyberanger... dealing with connectivity [21:15] 'nameless' is me ... for diagnostic purposes [21:15] pace_t_zulu: understand that, done that myself [21:15] well hello there nameless ;) [21:16] hi [21:16] 20k iden celluar connection was the last time, kinda poinless what I tried doing [21:16] over itthough [21:17] wrst: there are limits with the cell phone, but it's almost entirely an issue of interfacing to my radios [21:17] ok :) [21:18] I listened to a hockey game being held in Windsor, ON, nearest station was AM in Erie, PA and I was 500+ miles further away, getting high quality sterio as I walked home, only to hear them lose [21:18] that's the power of android [21:19] (I hate this but it was more of a winner than my hockey team) [21:20] but the flaw is it's dependance on celluar networks [21:21] well if they had been on a clear channel AM and it was night you might could have gotten it over the air? :) [21:22] I had GPS tracker on me, trying to map the area, and it's a lot of dead bits [21:22] not huge in area, exactly, but enough to trip tcp up, so the XM app over the XM tuner, I'd grab thetuner [21:23] pittsburgh drowns it out (I've tried ;-)) [21:23] I've gotten Chicago and Pittsburgh and Buffalo [21:23] and never while mobile [21:25] the braves used to be on 750 out of atlanta but much closer i could pick it up like it was next door [21:25] the gps tracker I used was APRSDroid, here's the kicker, that same area, a proper APRS setup transmitting and reciving on 144.390MHz (as a ham I can) it would have beaten the cell network [21:27] yeah, too close for the sport of it though (only chattanooga in the way, and chattanooga's AM isn't really there as it is) [21:28] I'd maybe do it to say I did, but it's just to close to me [21:29] (keep in mind, downtown Dalton GA is closer than downtown chattanooga to me, the airport is barely as close as the state line) [21:31] it'd be nice for the experience anyhow, but celluar and radio is two different beasts [21:31] (cb and ham radio that is) [21:31] and that's why I decided to do this [21:33] scrollbars are now black in natty.... weird [21:33] oh and it'll run ubuntu (of course ;-)) [21:34] pace_t_zulu: wow, that is indeed weird [21:34] kinda cool to theme, but as stock, hrm [21:35] I'll have to take pictures of this [21:49] wrst: what apps do you use on your droid [21:49] and have you rooted it and changed firmware? === Xpistos1 is now known as Xpistos [21:52] haven't rooted cyberanger, main apps are quasseldroid, irssiconnectbot along with dolphin browser [21:52] so cyberanger i don't use much stuff thats way out there [21:52] cyberanger: can you tell me how to add an FTP share in my fstab? [21:55] Xpistos: perhaps, but it'd be easier to tell you I've never done that (preferring sftp, over plain ftp) [21:56] lemme find out on it [21:56] well I want to rsync the share [21:56] wrst: no audio even (pandora, streamfurious, or built in) [21:56] Xpistos: ssh not an option? [21:57] Hmm, it is a godaddy account but I haven't tried? [21:57] let me see [21:57] you might need to enable first [21:57] cyberanger: i do use a couple of apps to listen to a radio station here and there but for the most part i'm at home or work with a computer or on the road with satellite radio [21:57] but I believe they do [21:58] wrst: yeah, satellite radio has a few limitations (namely the lack of a truely portable radio, the ones I've really seen that I could get need an external antenna, great for home or car, not for bus or boots) [21:59] Xpistos: shared? [21:59] no certainly not [22:00] let me check it says yes [22:00] help.godaddy.com/article/4942 [22:00] http://help.godaddy.com/article/4942 [22:00] Xpistos: are you just wanting this for backups [22:01] weekly backups [22:01] no, i have an ftp site that I am using and need to move files back and forth [22:01] that isn't a bad idea either though. If I can automate my backups I will be giddy [22:02] godaddy is the ftp site, or the other end? [22:03] that is the FTP site [22:03] I have a dedicate hosting account with them [22:03] and ssh/sftp too [22:04] and it's dedicated, not shared then? [22:04] yes [22:04] sorry [22:04] I have a dedicated IP [22:04] force of habit [22:06] and the idea is just rsync [22:06] not a NAS type deal [22:06] either way, this appears doable [22:07] If I can boot my system and it will automagically run the rsync without me, I call it a win! [22:07] sort of a dropbox type setup [22:07] pace_t_zulu_ your going to give me a seizure [22:07] rsync can go over ssh, but godaddy inhibits that, but there is another way to get the same result, with sshfs [22:08] sudo apt-get install rsync sshfs [22:10] Well according to this it will take 24-72 hours to get the SSH active. [22:10] Xpistos: then sshfs does the mounting, followed by rsync running, and unmount sshfs [22:10] that is cool [22:11] I will get with you later about getting the fstab stuff done once the ssh is good to go [22:11] ah, I see, I hate that about them, kinda slow for something automated and simplistic [22:11] Xpistos: you could setup some of the client side now [22:12] hit me with it dude [22:12] sudo apt-get install sshfs rsync [22:13] both newest version [22:13] then we need to generate a seperate ssh key (for the script) with no passphrase on it (or you'll be propted every time, not necessarlly a bad thing) [22:13] ssh-keygen -b 4096 [22:14] when it askes where you want it saved, .ssh/id_godaddy [22:14] is a good choice [22:14] generating now [22:15] from here, things get a little more dependant on the server end too, so we'll leave off here === pace_t_zulu_ is now known as pace_t_zulu [22:28] sorry guys about all the connect/disconnect noise [22:31] * cyberanger accepts pace_t_zulu's apology, hands pace_t_zulu a peice of fiber optic cable to help [22:35] apparently opendns doesn't resolve freenode.net [22:38] but chat.us.freenode.net works [22:43] pace_t_zulu: resolving here, to 140.211.167.100 [22:44] but that's their webserver, not their irc server [22:44] same as www.freenode.net [22:45] sorry... irc.freenode.net [22:45] opendns doesn't resolve it [22:45] here it is, CNAME chat.freenode.net [22:46] which lists all servers [22:46] are you on your home network? [22:46] cyberanger: no [23:53] I think there was a cat living in my keyboard [23:54] I was a little shocked, I cleaned it out with a needle [23:57] ha ha chris4585 [23:58] I really hope they fix gnome shell to where it wont remove unity sometime soon