[10:02] <Aquina> 'lo
[11:27] <micahg_> mr_pouit: FYI,  pidgin 2.7.11 merged
[14:06] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[14:07] <charlie-tca> Beta2 testing this week; desktop images failed to build today
[14:51] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: can we do anything to make sure we can build the desktop images tomorrow?
[16:52] <charlie-tca> <dholbach> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuAppDeveloperWeek starting in 15 minutes in #ubuntu-classroom
[18:46] <micahg_> charlie-tca: FYI, pidgin 2.7.11 in natty now
[18:46] <charlie-tca> Thanks :-)
[18:55] <mr_pouit> I almost never use pidgin, but I guess this is a good thing ;-)
[18:57] <charlie-tca> I keep thinking I should learn pidgin, but it seems much harder than xchat
[18:59] <micahg_> well, there were a ton of bug fixes plus some security fixes, so I figured an update was in order
[19:03] <charlie-tca> Xubuntu 8.04 EOL is May 12
[20:48] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit and ochosi : bug 757754
[20:48] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 757754 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "On XUbuntu upgrade maverick->natty update manager offers to install the whole gnome (xubuntu-desktop recommends indicator-messages)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/757754
[20:52] <charlie-tca> Does not seem right that upgrading forces the user to install Gnome, just because of indicator-messages
[20:56] <charlie-tca> mr_pouit: are we going to need to revert this change to indicators?
[20:58]  * micahg_ isn't sure what the problem is, seems like just some libs
[20:58] <charlie-tca> the problem is the upgrade to natty attempted to install 250 gnome packages because the indicator-messages depends
[20:59] <mr_pouit> I don't think the problem is there actually
[20:59] <charlie-tca> on them
[21:02] <micahg_> seems to be indicator-applet that's causing the issues, it depends on gnome-panel
[21:02] <charlie-tca> I managed to get one of those maverick installs that won't even show me natty is available
[21:03] <charlie-tca> hm, are we installing that or did the user install that?
[21:04] <micahg_> err, it's installed through indicator-messages :(
[21:04] <micahg_> as a recommends
[21:04] <charlie-tca> Then that would be bad
[21:39] <charlie-tca> Thanks for looking at the bug, mr_pouit