hicham | lets use geistest and see ... | 00:10 |
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joh | Hi, are there any API reference docs for Unity Lenses? Something more detailed than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses | 00:15 |
nhaines | sladen: I'm curious, maybe you know... why were gnome-terminal's scrollbars turned dark in the last light-themes release in Ambience? | 00:20 |
nhaines | sladen: also, curious about the status of Ubuntu Monospace font these days. | 00:21 |
nhaines | Just a friendly ping. :) | 00:21 |
davidcalle | When my lens is launched at startup, it crashes on utf8 strings. When it's launched during a session it doesn't. | 00:22 |
* davidcalle is scratching is head. | 00:22 | |
joh | davidcalle: Do you have some experience with lens development? :) | 00:23 |
davidcalle | joh, I'm developing the Books one. | 00:23 |
joh | davidcalle: Ah cool, then maybe you can help me..? | 00:24 |
joh | davidcalle: I'm writing a Tomboy lens | 00:24 |
davidcalle | joh, sure! | 00:24 |
joh | davidcalle: And in order to display a note when clicked in the lens, I need to perform a DBus method call. | 00:24 |
joh | davidcalle: However, from the examples I've found, it seems the lens entries can only point to valid URIs? | 00:25 |
joh | davidcalle: I.e. they cannot be used to perform arbitrary actions... | 00:25 |
davidcalle | joh, have you looked at kenvandine's code (gwibber lens) ? | 00:25 |
joh | davidcalle: Just briefly... I'll look again :) | 00:26 |
davidcalle | joh, you should talk to him about that, as I won't be able to help you with dbus calls. ;) Also, you should try to ping njpatel about what a lens can call. | 00:28 |
joh | davidcalle: Well, I know how to make the dbus calls, I just don't know how to glue it together with the unity lens. | 00:29 |
joh | davidcalle: ok thanks : | 00:30 |
joh | *:) | 00:30 |
davidcalle | joh, good luck with your lens. Is the code somewhere? :) | 00:30 |
joh | davidcalle: Thanks, the code isn't up yet, but will be on bzr once I get it working :) | 00:31 |
joh | *on launchpad | 00:31 |
davidcalle | joh, ok, good luck then :) | 00:31 |
zniavre | good evening i just unistalled-reinstalled unity but still no icons inside the launcher what can i do please? | 00:36 |
joh | Meh, I can't get the gwibber lens to work :P | 00:36 |
hicham | oh, nice, unity kinda works | 00:40 |
nhaines | hicham: congrats. :D | 00:48 |
hicham | nhaines: thanks :) | 00:49 |
hicham | nhaines: http://img33.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1yl.png/ | 00:49 |
nhaines | Looking good. :) | 00:51 |
hicham | is gnome-panel supposed to be launched in unity ? | 00:56 |
nhaines | hicham: no, it uses unity-panel-service instad. | 00:57 |
nhaines | instead. | 00:57 |
hicham | nhaines: did you see the screenshot ? | 00:57 |
nhaines | hicham: yes I did | 01:00 |
hicham | adamw: how do you start unity in ubuntu ? | 01:00 |
hicham | oops | 01:00 |
nhaines | hicham: it's just sort of automatic. :) | 01:00 |
hicham | nhaines: do you have a custom session for it ? | 01:00 |
spikeb | yes | 01:01 |
hicham | spikeb: what is the package for it ? | 01:01 |
spikeb | i have no idea, honestly. | 01:01 |
hicham | spikeb: what do you have in /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions ? | 01:03 |
spikeb | i have an ubuntu.session (that'd be the unity session) | 01:05 |
nhaines | hicham: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/592891/ | 01:05 |
hicham | nhaines: thanks a lot | 01:12 |
hicham | how I am supposed to log out of unity ? | 01:13 |
nhaines | hicham: you're not supposed to, like any other window manager, I think. :) | 01:15 |
nhaines | Oh! no, sorry, I understand. There's an application indicator applet that lets you log out. | 01:16 |
hicham | nhaines: what is its name ? | 01:16 |
nhaines | hicham: I don't know... I can never remember. :( | 01:17 |
jcastro | kenvandine: any luck with the lens? | 01:17 |
nhaines | SysRq-K will kill the X server. | 01:17 |
zniavre | indicator-session? | 01:20 |
jcastro | joh: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ | 01:22 |
jcastro | joh: ^^ should be there | 01:22 |
hicham | zniavre: thanks | 01:33 |
coz_ | hey | 01:37 |
LLStarks | i'd like a second opinion on evince not being user accesable as a design decision. | 01:50 |
LLStarks | bug 743383 | 01:50 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 743383 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash does not recognize entries like "Evince" or "Document Viewer"" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743383 | 01:50 |
joh | jcastro: great, thanks | 02:09 |
MaximLevitsky | Unity is usable? | 02:41 |
MaximLevitsky | I sure assume it is | 02:41 |
MaximLevitsky | I open a vdesktop with my homework | 02:42 |
MaximLevitsky | I open a browser | 02:42 |
MaximLevitsky | couple of PFS | 02:42 |
MaximLevitsky | PDFs | 02:42 |
MaximLevitsky | text editor | 02:42 |
MaximLevitsky | Now I want to rest a bit, so I switch desktop, and try to open firefox | 02:42 |
MaximLevitsky | And guess what I get | 02:43 |
MaximLevitsky | That is usable? | 02:43 |
MaximLevitsky | When to see cube and unity? | 02:44 |
hicham | I have unity and the cube | 02:45 |
MaximLevitsky | how? | 02:45 |
hicham | enable it from ccsm | 02:45 |
MaximLevitsky | unity depends on desktop wall | 02:45 |
MaximLevitsky | in 11.04 of course | 02:45 |
ion | What *did* you get? | 02:46 |
MaximLevitsky | If I enable cube, it first tell me to disable wall | 02:47 |
MaximLevitsky | I answer yes | 02:47 |
MaximLevitsky | It tells me that unity depeands on wall and asks me to disable it | 02:47 |
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didrocks | good morning | 07:40 |
oSoMoN | good morning | 08:01 |
MacSlow | greetings everybody | 08:07 |
zniavre | good morning | 08:16 |
zniavre | im still stuck with my missing icons inside the launcher i hav re-installed all nux-unity related package im wondering what i did wrong ? | 08:17 |
magcius | gah, what's happening | 08:59 |
magcius | my recent experience: | 08:59 |
magcius | all windows freeze | 09:00 |
magcius | alt+f2, "pkill notify-osd" | 09:00 |
magcius | magically, all windows start to work again | 09:00 |
magcius | is there something weird where when you can't ACK dbus message, gtk+ freezes or something? | 09:00 |
RAOF | No. There *is* a weird bug where one of compiz's X connections sits around waiting for input that never comes, though. | 09:01 |
aquarius__ | hey didrocks | 09:02 |
didrocks | RAOF: auquarius is just stuck in that case | 09:02 |
didrocks | wb aquarius__ | 09:02 |
didrocks | RAOF: needs someone for testing/hammering his system? :) | 09:02 |
aquarius__ | RAOF: I have X (or compiz, or something, I don't know) wedged, so if there's anything you want me to try running, commands to do, logs to provide, I am happy to do so. | 09:03 |
RAOF | aquarius__: If you attach gdb to compiz, is it waiting in poll()? If so, yeah, I know *about* that problem (but not what's causing it, precisely where it is, or how to fix it). | 09:04 |
aquarius__ | you'll have to tell me how to do that | 09:04 |
RAOF | sudo gdb compiz $(pgrep compiz); bt | 09:04 |
aquarius__ | (njpatel's told me before, but I don't have easy access to previous conversations in this VC :)) | 09:04 |
RAOF | You need to wait for gdb to come up for the bt command to do anything interesting. | 09:05 |
RAOF | But the *problem* is (likely to be) that compiz is sitting, waiting, for X to reply to it's request. And the server doesn't. | 09:06 |
aquarius__ | top of the compiz backtrace is __kernel_vsyscall, and the second line is __poll, and then third is ?? in libxcb | 09:06 |
aquarius__ | is that what you meant? | 09:07 |
RAOF | Yeah. | 09:07 |
RAOF | That's what I meant. | 09:07 |
aquarius__ | ok. If there's any other information I can provide to you, having a system *in* this wedged state, I'm happy to... but it sounds like you already have all the info you need? | 09:07 |
RAOF | Yeah, I think so. And I can reproduce at least one version of that hang at will. | 09:08 |
aquarius__ | interestingly, when I've had this before, killing compiz and then restarting it (or starting metacity with --replace from a VC) doesn't seem to recover; normally what happens is that X quits and I have to log in again | 09:08 |
RAOF | *That's* probably an X bug to do with closing down clients. | 09:09 |
aquarius__ | Is there any way to work around it? Today, I don't mind -- I've only just turned my machine on (well, resumed from suspend). But other days I have work in windows that I don't really want to lose, and then end up losing them. | 09:10 |
aquarius__ | so today I can just service gdm restart and be fine | 09:10 |
RAOF | Attaching gdb to Xorg and acquiring a backtrace for *that* would be quite useful :) | 09:10 |
aquarius__ | right now? | 09:10 |
aquarius__ | that is, while still wedged? | 09:11 |
RAOF | Yeah, if killing compiz is going to cause it. | 09:11 |
aquarius__ | OK. how do I quit the gdb I have looking at compiz without killing compiz? | 09:11 |
RAOF | Just type ‘quit’; gdb won't kill compiz. | 09:12 |
aquarius__ | oh, I can't read. It says it'll detach from the inferior process, not kill it :) | 09:12 |
RAOF | :) | 09:12 |
aquarius__ | ok, so I should gdb into the /usr/bin/X process? | 09:13 |
RAOF | Yeah. | 09:13 |
RAOF | First could you install some debugging symbols? | 09:13 |
RAOF | xserver-xorg-core-dbg is the most important package. | 09:13 |
aquarius__ | ah | 09:13 |
RAOF | Then xserver-xorg-video-$YOUR_CARD-dbg | 09:14 |
RAOF | But that's not as critical. | 09:14 |
aquarius__ | ah. I do not have the latest version of xserver-xorg-core | 09:15 |
aquarius__ | damn. | 09:15 |
RAOF | Ah. | 09:15 |
aquarius__ | so I can't install -core-debug without upgrading -core, which means that a gdb backtrace won't be useful, correct? | 09:15 |
RAOF | What version do you have? I'll rustle up a link for you. | 09:15 |
RAOF | aquarius__: Correct. You need to have the -core-dbg version that corresponds to whatever is about to hang now :) | 09:16 |
aquarius__ | 2:1-10.0-0ubuntu3 | 09:16 |
aquarius__ | and it's about to install 2:1-10.0.902-1ubuntu1 | 09:17 |
aquarius__ | I only upgraded everything about a week ago! There have been nine hundred versions of X since? :) | 09:17 |
RAOF | That's just one version out of date; the new one was uploaded yesterday. | 09:19 |
aquarius__ | :) | 09:19 |
RAOF | Oh - what arch do you need? | 09:19 |
aquarius__ | uname -p says i686 | 09:19 |
davidcalle | kamstrup, hello. What can make a Lens do this: when it's launched at startup, it crashes on utf-8 strings ("ascii codec can't encode..."), but when it's launched during a session, it handles them well. | 09:20 |
RAOF | aquarius__: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/67866223/xserver-xorg-core-dbg_1.10.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb | 09:20 |
aquarius__ | (oh, and syndaemon is eating 100% CPU as well, again. Is that likely to be related?) | 09:21 |
RAOF | aquarius__: I don't think so. | 09:21 |
RAOF | Although it might make the deadlock more likely to happen. | 09:21 |
aquarius__ | ok. I'm happy to provide information about syndaemon as well if that's useful? | 09:22 |
RAOF | Not for me, although the ubuntuone guys might be interested :) | 09:22 |
aquarius__ | ahem! | 09:22 |
aquarius__ | syndaemon. Not syncdaemon. | 09:22 |
RAOF | Oh! | 09:22 |
aquarius__ | if it were syncdaemon I'd know who to talk to :) | 09:22 |
magcius | RAOF, was "No. There *is* a weird bug where one of compiz's X connections sits around waiting for input that never comes, though." addressed to me? | 09:23 |
RAOF | magcius: Indeed it was. | 09:24 |
magcius | Why would killing notify-osd fix it? | 09:24 |
RAOF | aquarius__: is in such a state ;) | 09:24 |
aquarius__ | RAOF: that's why I thought it might be related; syndaemon is sort of an X thing, no? | 09:24 |
magcius | RAOF, also, I'm running metacity and gnome-panel, not compiz. | 09:24 |
RAOF | aquarius__: syndaemon is an X-ish thing, yeah. | 09:24 |
RAOF | aquarius__: File a bug; Chase Douglas is super-smart and up with the whole X input stack - he's who you want to talk to there. | 09:25 |
magcius | So I assume notify-osd froze, and it's not ACK-ing D-Bus notifications, which makes GTK+ freeze. | 09:25 |
aquarius__ | RAOF: OK, gdb into X says "Cannot access memory at address <blah> / <address> in __kernel_vsyscall ()". (I haven't made it restart yet.) Is that what you'd expect it to say at this point? | 09:25 |
RAOF | aquarius__: Hm, no. | 09:26 |
RAOF | aquarius__: You need to do “sudo gdb Xorg $(pgrep X)”, due to the slightly crazy way we do things. | 09:26 |
aquarius__ | ah | 09:26 |
RAOF | /usr/bin/X is a little wrapper; Xorg is where the fun is. | 09:27 |
aquarius__ | ok, that makes sense. Now done that; X is still in __kernel_vsyscall | 09:27 |
RAOF | Yeah; it'll be polling. | 09:27 |
aquarius__ | (but now I get much more sensible-looking output :)) | 09:27 |
RAOF | Well, it'll be select()ing | 09:27 |
aquarius__ | right, so now I should kill -9 compiz and start metacity, yes? And then if X dies, get a backtrace from gdb | 09:27 |
aquarius__ | ? | 09:27 |
aquarius__ | (I'm not good with this sort of debugging, so sorry you have to give me a remedial class in it :)) | 09:28 |
RAOF | First you probably want to ‘handle SIGPIPE nostop noprint’ in gdb, or you'll get a bunch of spurious SIGPIPEs. | 09:28 |
aquarius__ | done | 09:28 |
RAOF | Then, yeah; kill compiz and start metacity. | 09:28 |
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aquarius | well, *that* was less than successful. | 09:32 |
RAOF | Oh. | 09:32 |
aquarius | RAOF, I killed compiz fine, and then on running "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace" in a VC...the machine hung. | 09:32 |
RAOF | Um. You weren't trying to gdb on the same machine as X was running on? | 09:32 |
aquarius | I don't know whether the machine itself was locked up or whether just the screen wouldn't change. | 09:33 |
magcius | RAOF, any other suggestions, or should I ping MacSlow? | 09:33 |
magcius | (well, I just did) | 09:33 |
aquarius | RAOF, I was. I only have the one machine. :) | 09:33 |
aquarius | you're gonna tell me that this is like debugging ssh while sshed in, aren't you? | 09:33 |
MacSlow | magcius, indeed :) | 09:33 |
MacSlow | magcius, what's up? | 09:33 |
RAOF | aquarius: Ah. So, what happened *there* was that gdb stopped X while it was handling the VT switch. | 09:33 |
magcius | MacSlow, running gnome-panel and metacity | 09:33 |
magcius | occasionally, gtk+ windows lock up | 09:34 |
RAOF | aquarius: Leading to *hilarious* consequences! | 09:34 |
magcius | pkill notify-osd | 09:34 |
magcius | everything works | 09:34 |
aquarius | RAOF, heh. :) | 09:34 |
MacSlow | magcius, hm... that's new | 09:34 |
RAOF | It is kinda possible to run gdb against X on the same machine, but it's not particularly reliable. | 09:35 |
magcius | MacSlow, I'm running: xchat, gnome-terminal, banshee, emacs | 09:35 |
magcius | also firefox | 09:35 |
aquarius | RAOF, ah. So, then, what we're suggesting here is: someone else has to get you your backtrace :) | 09:35 |
magcius | it seems to happen the most with banshee's track change notifications | 09:35 |
MacSlow | magcius, do you have a ~/.cache/notify-osd.log handy somewhere? | 09:35 |
magcius | but that's usually the notifications i get | 09:35 |
RAOF | aquarius: Indeed :) | 09:35 |
magcius | MacSlow, yes. | 09:36 |
MacSlow | magcius, can you paste it somewhere? | 09:36 |
magcius | MacSlow, all it has is the latest notification: [2011-04-12T03:59:08-00:00, notify-sharp ] Coastal Brake | 09:36 |
magcius | by 'Tycho' from 'Coastal Brake' | 09:36 |
magcius | could be ndesk-dbus or notify-sharp that's being dumb | 09:36 |
MacSlow | magcius, hm... ok that's a dead end then... | 09:36 |
aquarius | RAOF, thanks for the help thus far, though. Given that you know about the compiz problem, and I can't debug X dying without a second machine, is there anything else that I can provide you the next time this happens? Or should I just restart X, confident in the knowledge that you're working on it? :) | 09:37 |
MacSlow | magcius, do you perhaps know any method to forcefully cause this lockup? | 09:37 |
magcius | MacSlow, nope. | 09:37 |
magcius | I'll try some more | 09:38 |
magcius | but when it happens again, is there anything I should do? | 09:38 |
MacSlow | magcius, that would be very helpful... otherwise it's very hard to guess what's going wrong. | 09:38 |
RAOF | aquarius: I think you're off the hook :). No further debugging questions, y'rhonour. | 09:38 |
magcius | get a gdb backtrace and see what it's polling for? | 09:38 |
aquarius | RAOF, sorry I can't be more helpful! | 09:38 |
MacSlow | magcius, yes | 09:38 |
zniavre | sorry to ask again but what can i do for this please ? > http://i.imgur.com/kxkxz.png < | 09:38 |
magcius | zniavre, looks like a driver bug | 09:38 |
MacSlow | magcius, and try to save the ~/.cache/notify-osd.log as it gets overwritten when notify-osd is restarted | 09:39 |
zniavre | ho ? im using nouveau | 09:39 |
magcius | As I said, looks like a driver bug | 09:39 |
zniavre | that s a good new | 09:39 |
akshatj | zniavre, unity has many problems with nouveau for me | 09:40 |
RAOF | zniavre: How new is your compiz? I've had approximately that bug a couple of times over teh cycle; a new compiz fixed things. | 09:40 |
zniavre | i experience this since yesterday update compiz/nouveau/unity | 09:40 |
dbarth | rodrigo_: hey rodrigo, i've noticed this bug about accessible descriptions | 09:41 |
dbarth | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/726005 | 09:41 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 726005 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "indicator-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__POINTER()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 09:41 |
dbarth | is there something in the code that looks wrong? | 09:41 |
rodrigo_ | dbarth, looking | 09:42 |
zniavre | RAOF, i hav filled a bug report yesterday https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/757990 | 09:42 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 757990 in unity (Ubuntu) "missing but working icons in unity-launcher" [Undecided,New] | 09:42 |
magcius | MacSlow, not *quite* sure how to do that considering anything gtk+-based dies, including gnome-terminal | 09:42 |
magcius | and nvidia broke ttys :( | 09:43 |
MacSlow | magcius, argl² | 09:43 |
MacSlow | magcius, can you still ssh into that machine from elsewhere? | 09:43 |
RAOF | zniavre: (Fortunately?) We're not supporting nouveau's 3D, and it's likely to be a driver bug… | 09:43 |
magcius | does notify-osd log to stderr? | 09:43 |
* RAOF updates his nouveau machine to check. | 09:43 | |
rodrigo_ | dbarth, TheMuso should know better | 09:44 |
magcius | I could do "/usr/libexec/notify-osd 2> ~/crashing.log" and let the system restart it when I pkill notify-osd | 09:44 |
magcius | MacSlow, and no, no laptop nearby. This is my desktop. | 09:44 |
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rodrigo_ | TheMuso, around? | 09:44 |
zniavre | RAOF, ok thank you answering do i cancel my report ? | 09:44 |
RAOF | zniavre: Leave it there; we might get around to doing something about it. | 09:45 |
RAOF | zniavre: And we'll *eventually* want to support nouveau's 3D | 09:45 |
zniavre | \o/ | 09:45 |
MacSlow | magcius, well... if you start it from a shell/terminal (after killing the current one running) you could capture it's output to a file | 09:46 |
magcius | MacSlow, right, does it log to stderr? | 09:46 |
magcius | MacSlow, ok, I think I may have found something | 09:47 |
magcius | loading icon 'notification-/home/jstpierre/.cache/media-art/album-d50f662d41e1699e07f0baefbc6fd145.jpg' caused error: 'Icon 'notification-/home/jstpierre/.cache/media-art/album-d50f662d41e1699e07f0baefbc6fd145.jpg' not present in theme'** | 09:47 |
magcius | MacSlow, icon still displays fine though | 09:48 |
magcius | so not sure if it's just a dumb warning | 09:48 |
MacSlow | magcius, that looks nasty -> "notification-/" | 09:48 |
magcius | DEBUG: [2011-04-12T04:48:46-00:00, notify-sharp, id:1, icon:/home/jstpierre/.cache/media-art/album-d50f662d41e1699e07f0baefbc6fd145.jpg] | 09:49 |
MacSlow | trying to replace a normal (icon) file-name with symbolic one | 09:49 |
magcius | looks like it's sending it across D-Bus fine | 09:49 |
MacSlow | magcius, which icon-theme are you using? | 09:49 |
magcius | Ubuntu-Mono-Dark | 09:50 |
magcius | according to gnome-appearance-properties | 09:50 |
MacSlow | magcius, this "notification-/" indicates that the symbolic icon-name-substitution is getting in the way | 09:50 |
magcius | uh, OK | 09:51 |
MacSlow | there's a workaround in place in notify-osd that I've never had time to solve properly | 09:51 |
MacSlow | magcius, just can't say why it's triggered for a normal album-art icon/image | 09:52 |
magcius | who is doing that | 09:52 |
MacSlow | magcius, notify-osd | 09:53 |
magcius | I mean the "notification-" prepending? | 09:53 |
MacSlow | magcius, notfy-osd is doing that | 09:53 |
magcius | OK | 09:53 |
MacSlow | magcius, are you at home with compiling stuff yourself? | 09:54 |
magcius | Of course. | 09:54 |
MacSlow | magcius, if you want you could quickly compile notify-osd without that workaround | 09:54 |
MacSlow | magcius, apt-get source notify-osd | 09:54 |
magcius | MacSlow, https://code.launchpad.net/~jstpierre/notify-osd/365162 :D | 09:54 |
magcius | I did that a loong time ago | 09:54 |
MacSlow | magcius, notify-osd/src/bubble.c:122 set it to 0 | 09:55 |
MacSlow | magcius, recompile | 09:56 |
magcius | OK | 09:56 |
MacSlow | magcius, run the resulting notify-osd binary from that and see if that solves your issue | 09:56 |
MacSlow | magcius, which I'm very certain it will | 09:56 |
magcius | The image loads fine in the end. | 09:57 |
magcius | It was just something I saw. | 09:57 |
MacSlow | magcius, still I wish we could get rid of such workarounds to fix others issues :) | 09:57 |
magcius | Technically, they shouldn't be using icon, but image_path instead, right? | 09:58 |
magcius | Er, wait | 09:59 |
magcius | the "icon" property doesn't exist? | 09:59 |
* magcius looks at http://people.gnome.org/~mccann/docs/notification-spec/notification-spec-latest.html#icons-and-images | 09:59 | |
MacSlow | magcius, I need to switch back to unity... anything else is better handled via sending email | 10:00 |
magcius | OK. | 10:01 |
* MacSlow looks at all the unread email | 10:01 | |
MacSlow | *rolling.eyes* | 10:01 |
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om26er | good morning lamalex | 14:33 |
lamalex | morning om26er | 14:35 |
lamalex | morning cdbs, | 14:35 |
om26er | lamalex, I am back to triage btw | 14:36 |
kenvandine | tedg, uh oh... distro patching that dbusmenu branch from mterrry broke quicklists | 14:37 |
kenvandine | tedg, at least for apps that don't have an app running associated with the desktop file | 14:37 |
tedg | kenvandine, I'm on a call, but I'm surprised that happened... I didn't realize that stuff was using dbusmenu.... | 14:38 |
kenvandine | yup | 14:38 |
kenvandine | dynamic quicklists | 14:38 |
tedg | kenvandine, I'd be suspicious that was it. | 14:38 |
kenvandine | i just verified, downgrading dbusmenu fixed it | 14:38 |
tedg | kenvandine, You lie! ;-) | 14:39 |
kenvandine | perhaps the bug is really somewhere in unity :) | 14:39 |
kenvandine | this is just uncovering it | 14:39 |
kenvandine | tedg, ok... i take that back | 14:41 |
kenvandine | i must be lying :) | 14:41 |
* tedg dances the kenvandine is a lier dance ;-) | 14:41 | |
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kenvandine | tedg, it worked twice in a row after downgrading | 14:41 |
kenvandine | but now it failed again | 14:41 |
kenvandine | must be racy | 14:42 |
kvalo | kenvandine: hi. a quick question, any hope of gwibber ever supporting a push method for new messages? | 14:53 |
kenvandine | kvalo, you mean like twitter live stream? | 14:53 |
kvalo | kenvandine: something which doesn't poll :) | 14:54 |
kenvandine | or real time feed, whatever they call it :) | 14:54 |
kenvandine | kvalo, yes... for services that support it | 14:54 |
kenvandine | and... only if i get to do the refactoring work i want to do | 14:54 |
kvalo | kenvandine: cool, so there's hope! :) | 14:54 |
kenvandine | indeed :) | 14:55 |
kvalo | kenvandine: thanks | 14:55 |
kenvandine | we'll be talking about that kind of stuff at UDS, so you should try to show up to show support :) | 14:55 |
kenvandine | our current scheduling mechanism wouldn't really handle that kind of thing well | 14:55 |
om26er | njpatel_, Hi! bug 734900 thoughts? | 15:00 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 734900 in unity (Ubuntu) "window title still fades even if there are no menus" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734900 | 15:00 |
lamalex | om26er, just do an ayatana-design task | 15:05 |
lamalex | normal design bug workflow | 15:05 |
njpatel_ | om26er, fixing today | 15:05 |
lamalex | heh, oh ok or not | 15:05 |
om26er | lamalex, ;) | 15:05 |
om26er | njpatel_, thanks | 15:05 |
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nerochiaro | smspillaz|z: can you please ping me when you have a spare minute ? | 15:35 |
lamalex | tedg, should i wishlist or wontfix thishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/756434 | 15:53 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 756434 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) "under Unity clock does not show map with locations when I click on it" [Undecided,New] | 15:53 |
lamalex | tedg, should i wishlist or wontfix this https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/756434 | 15:54 |
tedg | lamalex, bug 756434 shoudl be wishlist -- but for indicator-datetime | 15:56 |
ubot5 | Launchpad bug 756434 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) "under Unity clock does not show map with locations when I click on it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/756434 | 15:56 |
tedg | Oh, those were the same :-) | 15:56 |
lamalex | tedg, right | 15:57 |
lamalex | i was just fixing the space, sorry :P | 15:57 |
tedg | lamalex, I can't imagine a reason to really have that map in there -- it seems like eye candy to me. But, it's definitely a feature request. | 15:57 |
lamalex | yah | 15:58 |
lamalex | it was definitely eye candy | 15:58 |
lamalex | but it /was/ nice in gnome 2.x | 15:59 |
lamalex | had your locations on it with daylight. i enjoyed it | 15:59 |
lamalex | was helpful for day dreaming about the weather hawaii | 15:59 |
kenvandine | cdbs, i see you noticed dynamic quicklists have stopped working | 17:18 |
kenvandine | sort of | 17:18 |
kenvandine | i've been trying to bi-sect that today... they worked last week | 17:18 |
cdbs | kenvandine: :o | 17:18 |
cdbs | kenvandine: so I'm not alone | 17:18 |
kenvandine | it works like 1 out of 10 tries :) | 17:18 |
cdbs | kenvandine: In my case they worked a few hours ago | 17:18 |
kenvandine | so not completely broken, must be race condition of some sort | 17:18 |
cdbs | kenvandine: and now they won't work, I tried around 15-20 times | 17:19 |
didrocks | I didn't change the code there in unity | 17:19 |
jcastro | didrocks: any idea what's up here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/692462/ | 17:21 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 692462 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "unity confused with chromium web apps" [Medium,Fix committed] | 17:21 |
kenvandine | didrocks, i ruled out the bamf and dbusmenu updates | 17:22 |
jcastro | didrocks: I can reproduce on a clean install, I just don't know where to reopen, bamf or unity. | 17:22 |
kenvandine | didrocks, so i am guessing either libunity or unity | 17:23 |
kenvandine | but leaning towards unity | 17:23 |
kenvandine | i tried the 3.6.8 gir with libunity3 and it fails too | 17:23 |
didrocks | jcastro: DBO revert a part of the merge for latest release | 17:24 |
kenvandine | but that might not be a great test | 17:24 |
kenvandine | since unity is using libunity4 | 17:24 |
didrocks | jcastro: it was wrong IIRC, better to check with him | 17:24 |
jcastro | didrocks: ok so is it a bamf problem or a unity problem? | 17:24 |
jcastro | ok | 17:24 |
didrocks | kenvandine: libunity didn't get any update, bamf update isn't linked to that part | 17:24 |
jcastro | DBO: yo | 17:24 |
didrocks | jcastro: bamf | 17:24 |
kenvandine | didrocks, there was the API change last week... | 17:24 |
didrocks | kenvandine: yeah, but that happened since yesterday, isn't it? | 17:25 |
DBO | jcastro, what? | 17:25 |
kenvandine | didrocks, yeah, just trying to narrow down the field | 17:25 |
kenvandine | didrocks, i am not sure it worked consistently yesterday | 17:25 |
kenvandine | i know it worked consistently last week | 17:25 |
jcastro | DBO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/692462/ this isn't Fix Released anymore | 17:25 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 692462 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "unity confused with chromium web apps" [Medium,Fix committed] | 17:25 |
kenvandine | now it works rarely | 17:25 |
kenvandine | fails in both vala and python for sure | 17:25 |
DBO | jcastro, yeah I need to speak with trevino | 17:25 |
kenvandine | so not pygi | 17:25 |
jcastro | DBO: this is related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/744972 | 17:25 |
DBO | his work is crashing | 17:25 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 744972 in bamf (Ubuntu) "BAMF window matching for Chromium webapps" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 17:25 |
jcastro | ah ok | 17:25 |
DBO | i am about to revert the whole shooting match | 17:26 |
jcastro | thanks for the update | 17:26 |
* didrocks is happy to not merging that himself and let DBO handle it :-) | 17:26 | |
DBO | didrocks, dont touch bamf right now | 17:26 |
didrocks | DBO: oh, I don't! :-) | 17:26 |
DBO | jcastro, if you can get me in touch with him | 17:27 |
DBO | that would be good | 17:27 |
didrocks | that's exactly why I told jcastro the other day I didn't want to touch this merge :-) | 17:27 |
jcastro | I just panged him on irc | 17:27 |
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jono | are you folks aware of a bug with multiple icons on the Launcher? | 17:34 |
kenvandine | didrocks, i am suspicious of rev 1105 of unity | 17:35 |
* DBO rips jonos head off | 17:35 | |
jono | for the same app, I mean | 17:35 |
kenvandine | "merge neils branch of epic win" | 17:35 |
jono | DBO, :-) | 17:35 |
didrocks | kenvandine: it's the one merging the urgent icons new API and removing the other one | 17:35 |
DBO | kenvandine, neil needs to learn to name his branches better | 17:35 |
didrocks | jono: happens when bamfdaemon is restarting | 17:35 |
kenvandine | - DbusmenuMenuitem* item = NULL; | 17:36 |
jono | didrocks, ahhh | 17:36 |
kenvandine | + QuicklistMenuItem* menu_item = NULL; | 17:36 |
kenvandine | + DbusmenuMenuitem* item = NULL; | 17:36 |
kenvandine | it seems to be touching that area | 17:36 |
didrocks | kenvandine: argh | 17:36 |
didrocks | let me kill Neil to remove my work :) | 17:36 |
kenvandine | hehe | 17:36 |
kenvandine | then | 17:38 |
kenvandine | + menu_item = GetNthItems (index); | 17:38 |
kenvandine | + if (!menu_item) | 17:38 |
kenvandine | + return false; | 17:38 |
kenvandine | perhaps dbusmenu isn't finished setting up when he does that check? | 17:38 |
* kenvandine really has no clue, just random guesses here | 17:38 | |
kenvandine | but this looks suspicious | 17:38 |
* kenvandine goes to lunch :) | 17:38 | |
didrocks | kenvandine: probably, and so we are back to first point, with the race (the one mterry fixed) | 17:39 |
DBO | jono, if you have a reliable method of reproducing the bamf crash | 17:45 |
DBO | please tell me | 17:45 |
jono | DBO, I didn't see a bamf crash, I started Gwibber and saw three icons :-) | 17:46 |
DBO | jono, what else do you have running? | 17:46 |
DBO | what favorites do you have | 17:46 |
jono | DBO, in my launcher? | 17:47 |
DBO | yes | 17:47 |
jono | Nautilus, Firefox, Terminal, Tomboy, USC, XChat-GNOME, GTG, Thunderbird, GTK-Record-My-Desktop, GEdit, Skype, Gimp, Ubuntu One Control Panel, and I have Evolution open (three icons) and Gwibber (three icons) | 17:48 |
jono | DBO, ^ | 17:48 |
jono | I have also seen multiple banshee icons before | 17:49 |
DBO | whcih ones have you pinned? | 17:49 |
jono | it seems to be apps started from the indicators that have muiltiple icons | 17:49 |
jono | all those apps are ones I have pinned to my launcher | 17:49 |
jono | I think it is something to do with starting apps from indicators | 17:50 |
jono | I haven't noticed this issue with other apps | 17:50 |
DBO | you dont have any non-pinned apps running? | 17:50 |
jono | DBO, I do, Gedit, GTG, XChat, Firefox | 17:50 |
jono | oh hang on | 17:50 |
jono | no | 17:50 |
jono | non-pinned apps, no | 17:50 |
jono | well | 17:50 |
jono | Evo and Gwibber are not pinned, I start them from the indicators, and I have them running | 17:51 |
didrocks | lamalex: set-lp-dup is what you want | 17:53 |
seb128 | DBO, the comments suggest quite some users got it while using file selector dialog | 17:53 |
DBO | seb128, k | 17:53 |
DBO | I need all of these dupes traced | 17:54 |
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DBO | can i get some retracing done? | 17:54 |
DBO | why the shit cant I get bamf to crash | 17:57 |
seb128 | DBO, the retracers are working | 17:57 |
DBO | if I fail to fix this bug for a 3rd time I think seb128 will just kill me | 17:57 |
seb128 | not sure what you mean | 17:57 |
DBO | maybe I looked at the wrong dupe | 17:58 |
seb128 | the thing is that they just clean and close the new bugs since they have the same stacktrace | 17:58 |
seb128 | that's the best way to avoid making public private infos | 17:58 |
seb128 | the duplicates are cleaned and turned public | 17:58 |
DBO | with different strings | 17:59 |
DBO | which I need to see | 17:59 |
seb128 | no luck for you then | 17:59 |
DBO | :( | 17:59 |
DBO | thats crap | 17:59 |
seb128 | well jono had the issue | 18:00 |
seb128 | he probably has the .crash locally and can give you some infos | 18:01 |
jono | bamf has crashed for me | 18:01 |
jono | I saw an error dialog | 18:01 |
jono | seb128, where would I find a .crash ? | 18:02 |
seb128 | jono, in /var/crash | 18:02 |
jono | _usr_lib_bamf_bamfdaemon.1000.crash | 18:02 |
jono | I have that | 18:02 |
seb128 | right | 18:02 |
seb128 | jono, so can you do that | 18:02 |
seb128 | install bamfdaemon-dbgsym | 18:02 |
jono | seb128, what do you want me to do? | 18:02 |
seb128 | then double click on that .crash in nautilus | 18:02 |
seb128 | or use ubuntu-bug -c on it | 18:03 |
jono | ok, one sec | 18:03 |
jono | E: Unable to locate package bamfdaemon-dbgsym | 18:03 |
jono | seb128, ^ | 18:03 |
seb128 | jono, what arch do you use? | 18:04 |
jono | seb128, x86 | 18:04 |
seb128 | how come people there don't have a ddeb source configured ;-) | 18:04 |
seb128 | jono, so either configure a ddeb apt source as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash or wget http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/b/bamf/bamfdaemon-dbgsym_0.2.86-0ubuntu1_i386.ddeb and dpkg -i it | 18:05 |
seb128 | jono, ddeb source is basically adding "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty main restricted universe multiverse" to your sources.list | 18:05 |
jono | seb128, ok, I installed it and double-clicked on it in FF and now it is filing a bug | 18:06 |
seb128 | jono, thanks, can you make the bug public and give the number when it's filed? or if you don't want to make it public subscribe me to it | 18:07 |
seb128 | jono, bamf shouldn't have any private data out of the name of running applications if you are fine making those infos public | 18:07 |
jono | np, one sec | 18:08 |
jono | seb128, so it is registering "bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in dbus_g_connection_register_g_object()" of which there are other bugs and dupes | 18:09 |
jono | should I file it anyway | 18:09 |
jono | ? | 18:09 |
seb128 | jono, yes | 18:09 |
seb128 | jono, DBO needs info from a new bug | 18:09 |
jono | seb128, DBO https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/758965 | 18:10 |
seb128 | the other ones got cleaned by the retracers | 18:10 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 758965 in bamf (Ubuntu) "bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in dbus_g_connection_register_g_object()" [Undecided,New] | 18:10 |
didrocks | seb128: can you stop the retracer from cleaning this one? | 18:10 |
seb128 | DBO, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69148113/Stacktrace.txt | 18:10 |
seb128 | didrocks, we can once, but it will add the first one it retracers to the stacktraces db and dup the next ones from it | 18:10 |
DBO | thank you seb128 | 18:10 |
seb128 | DBO, thanks jono | 18:10 |
DBO | thanks jono | 18:11 |
jono | np | 18:11 |
jono | let me know if there is anything I else I can do to help | 18:11 |
seb128 | #10 0x080561bc in open_office_window_setup_timer (args=0x90f4198) at bamf-matcher.c:1347 | 18:11 |
DBO | yes its always open office | 18:11 |
seb128 | DBO, other bugs suggested they were using libreoffice to open a document when they got it | 18:11 |
seb128 | DBO: you got the gdb crashdump on the bug as well if you have an i386 install and want to play withit | 18:12 |
DBO | amd64 | 18:13 |
DBO | but thank you | 18:13 |
DBO | seb128, can you confirm this | 18:17 |
DBO | open libre writer, and then libre calc | 18:17 |
DBO | then open the FIle Open from writer | 18:17 |
DBO | does that crash it? | 18:17 |
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seb128 | DBO, just having one librewriter opening the fileselector and closing it seems enough | 18:19 |
seb128 | or rather just opening the fileselector seems enough | 18:20 |
DBO | for me i need both | 18:20 |
DBO | either way this gives me what I need | 18:20 |
DBO | and I can confirm the duplication | 18:21 |
seb128 | DBO, it's not specific to libreoffice by reading the comments though, this stacktrace seemed specific to it | 18:22 |
DBO | every stacktrace I have seen has had the open office delay timer in it | 18:22 |
DBO | sometimes the apport window pops late | 18:22 |
seb128 | ok | 18:23 |
jcastro | kamstrup: any idea what could be going on here? our lens stopped working on login: https://bugs.launchpad.net/askubuntu-lens/+bug/758839 | 18:26 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 758839 in AskUbuntu Lens "Lens doesn't start on login" [Undecided,New] | 18:26 |
kamstrup | jcastro: anything in .xsession-errors? | 18:28 |
seb128 | DBO, ok, can you do that: wget https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69149337/_usr_lib_bamf_bamfdaemon.1000.crash, apport-unpack _usr_lib_bamf_bamfdaemon.1000.crash dir; cd dir; and use gdb on the crashdump there? | 18:28 |
seb128 | DBO, it's the crash from skaet, she just added it and she said she didn't use libreoffice | 18:28 |
seb128 | DBO, so might be worth checking the stacktrace from this one | 18:28 |
DBO | where is the trace? | 18:28 |
seb128 | DBO, I just copied the commands for you to use gdb on it | 18:29 |
seb128 | DBO: then type "bt" | 18:29 |
DBO | yeah, thanks :) | 18:29 |
seb128 | DBO, it's not retraced but that way you can get debug infos locally | 18:29 |
seb128 | DBO, can you let me know if the stacktrace is a libreoffice one as well or if it's a different case. skaet think she didn't use libreoffice | 18:30 |
seb128 | DBO: quite some of the duplicates suggest it happen with firefox in some cases as well | 18:30 |
seb128 | oh it does | 18:31 |
seb128 | DBO, opening a fileselector in firefox crash bamf here | 18:31 |
DBO | seb128, confirmed | 18:31 |
seb128 | DBO, ok, so I think you got what you need | 18:31 |
seb128 | DBO, happy debugging | 18:31 |
DBO | yeah | 18:32 |
DBO | thanks | 18:32 |
seb128 | DBO, r-t is asking when you think you can get a fix? they would like to get it fixed in beta2 if possible seeing the number of users running into it and the easy way to trigger it | 18:37 |
DBO | seb128, today | 18:37 |
seb128 | DBO, ok, please let me or didrocks know when you have a fix to try or that we can backport to natty | 18:38 |
seb128 | didrocks, ^ | 18:38 |
didrocks | seb128: yeah, I'll upload right away in case of a respin | 18:38 |
didrocks | DBO: ^ | 18:38 |
seb128 | didrocks, thanks | 18:39 |
seb128 | didrocks, upload right away in any case, I told skaet we would get it in the queue for them once it's ready | 18:39 |
seb128 | didrocks, then they can do what they judge right | 18:39 |
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kenvandine | cdbs, i have a fix for the broken quicklists | 20:36 |
kenvandine | https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/unity/make-quicklists-work-again/+merge/57386 | 20:36 |
kenvandine | it looks like mterry's previous fix got reverted accidentally | 20:37 |
cdbs | kenvandine: :o | 20:39 |
cdbs | kenvandine: nice catch | 20:40 |
* cdbs 'll test it | 20:40 | |
cdbs | kenvandine: ping | 21:22 |
kenvandine | cdbs, pong | 21:22 |
cdbs | kenvandine: the fix worked, but a new problem, if the dbusmenu specified contains a hidden menuitem, then unity crashes | 21:22 |
* cdbs reports | 21:22 | |
kenvandine | ugh | 21:22 |
kenvandine | thx | 21:22 |
lamalex | DBO, what do we know about the ivisible windows bug? | 22:03 |
lamalex | i have a guy who says he can trigger it with the grid plugin | 22:04 |
DBO | it should be mostly resolved | 22:04 |
lamalex | DBO, as of when | 22:06 |
lamalex | this was filed on the 10th | 22:06 |
DBO | link? | 22:06 |
lamalex | https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/756765 | 22:07 |
ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 756765 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz + grid, turn window invisible" [Undecided,New] | 22:07 |
DBO | that is the grid clipping bug | 22:07 |
DBO | its fixed on the 11th | 22:07 |
lamalex | k | 22:11 |
lamalex | thanks | 22:11 |
LLStarks | didrocks wanted this but whatever | 22:13 |
LLStarks | bug 759198 | 22:13 |
ubot5 | Error: Launchpad bug 759198 could not be found | 22:13 |
LLStarks | ubot fails | 22:13 |
LLStarks | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/759198 | 22:13 |
Omega | The lockscreen is ugly. | 23:13 |
Omega | It's probably what I hate most about my Ubuntu experience. | 23:14 |
Daekdroom | bamfdaemon just crashed out of the blur. | 23:19 |
Daekdroom | But instead of getting the backtrace I closed the window unconsciously, heh. | 23:19 |
Omega | I just got a GPU lockup and apport crashing while submitting. | 23:23 |
sergio__ | I'm wondering if this is worth submitting a bug to Ayatana. The launcher in unity recognizes input with a control key as a garabge character. For example, typing Ctrl+V or Ctrl+A into the launcher results in garbage text being shown. | 23:36 |
sergio__ | This is in the natty beta btw | 23:39 |
Omega | sergio__: submit the bug to unity | 23:42 |
Omega | (check if it's submitted) | 23:42 |
Omega | I'll confirm it | 23:42 |
sergio__ | Omega, i havent seen one, so i was just wondering if it seemed bug worthy | 23:43 |
delac | affects mee too. I would say it's quite worth a bug report | 23:44 |
delac | I mean, I really would like to be able to paste into the thing | 23:44 |
Omega | Something actually shows up when you search for .,,ctrl+/ | 23:53 |
sergio__ | not for me | 23:53 |
sergio__ | ctrl+i gives a big space | 23:53 |
sergio__ | ctrl+a does select all | 23:54 |
sergio__ | ctrl+j is little space? | 23:54 |
sergio__ | as wel as ctrl m | 23:55 |
Omega | And we have a crash! | 23:56 |
sergio__ | go figure any combination of ctrl and , . ; ' works fine | 23:59 |
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