[00:10] lets use geistest and see ... [00:15] Hi, are there any API reference docs for Unity Lenses? Something more detailed than https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Unity/Lenses [00:20] sladen: I'm curious, maybe you know... why were gnome-terminal's scrollbars turned dark in the last light-themes release in Ambience? [00:21] sladen: also, curious about the status of Ubuntu Monospace font these days. [00:21] Just a friendly ping. :) [00:22] When my lens is launched at startup, it crashes on utf8 strings. When it's launched during a session it doesn't. [00:22] * davidcalle is scratching is head. [00:23] davidcalle: Do you have some experience with lens development? :) [00:23] joh, I'm developing the Books one. [00:24] davidcalle: Ah cool, then maybe you can help me..? [00:24] davidcalle: I'm writing a Tomboy lens [00:24] joh, sure! [00:24] davidcalle: And in order to display a note when clicked in the lens, I need to perform a DBus method call. [00:25] davidcalle: However, from the examples I've found, it seems the lens entries can only point to valid URIs? [00:25] davidcalle: I.e. they cannot be used to perform arbitrary actions... [00:25] joh, have you looked at kenvandine's code (gwibber lens) ? [00:26] davidcalle: Just briefly... I'll look again :) [00:28] joh, you should talk to him about that, as I won't be able to help you with dbus calls. ;) Also, you should try to ping njpatel about what a lens can call. [00:29] davidcalle: Well, I know how to make the dbus calls, I just don't know how to glue it together with the unity lens. [00:30] davidcalle: ok thanks : [00:30] *:) [00:30] joh, good luck with your lens. Is the code somewhere? :) [00:31] davidcalle: Thanks, the code isn't up yet, but will be on bzr once I get it working :) [00:31] *on launchpad [00:31] joh, ok, good luck then :) [00:36] good evening i just unistalled-reinstalled unity but still no icons inside the launcher what can i do please? [00:36] Meh, I can't get the gwibber lens to work :P [00:40] oh, nice, unity kinda works [00:48] hicham: congrats. :D [00:49] nhaines: thanks :) [00:49] nhaines: http://img33.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1yl.png/ [00:51] Looking good. :) [00:56] is gnome-panel supposed to be launched in unity ? [00:57] hicham: no, it uses unity-panel-service instad. [00:57] instead. [00:57] nhaines: did you see the screenshot ? [01:00] hicham: yes I did [01:00] adamw: how do you start unity in ubuntu ? [01:00] oops [01:00] hicham: it's just sort of automatic. :) [01:00] nhaines: do you have a custom session for it ? [01:01] yes [01:01] spikeb: what is the package for it ? [01:01] i have no idea, honestly. [01:03] spikeb: what do you have in /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions ? [01:05] i have an ubuntu.session (that'd be the unity session) [01:05] hicham: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/592891/ [01:12] nhaines: thanks a lot [01:13] how I am supposed to log out of unity ? [01:15] hicham: you're not supposed to, like any other window manager, I think. :) [01:16] Oh! no, sorry, I understand. There's an application indicator applet that lets you log out. [01:16] nhaines: what is its name ? [01:17] hicham: I don't know... I can never remember. :( [01:17] kenvandine: any luck with the lens? [01:17] SysRq-K will kill the X server. [01:20] indicator-session? [01:22] joh: http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/ [01:22] joh: ^^ should be there [01:33] zniavre: thanks [01:37] hey [01:50] i'd like a second opinion on evince not being user accesable as a design decision. [01:50] bug 743383 [01:50] Launchpad bug 743383 in unity (Ubuntu) "Dash does not recognize entries like "Evince" or "Document Viewer"" [Undecided,Won't fix] https://launchpad.net/bugs/743383 [02:09] jcastro: great, thanks [02:41] Unity is usable? [02:41] I sure assume it is [02:42] I open a vdesktop with my homework [02:42] I open a browser [02:42] couple of PFS [02:42] PDFs [02:42] text editor [02:42] Now I want to rest a bit, so I switch desktop, and try to open firefox [02:43] And guess what I get [02:43] That is usable? [02:44] When to see cube and unity? [02:45] I have unity and the cube [02:45] how? [02:45] enable it from ccsm [02:45] unity depends on desktop wall [02:45] in 11.04 of course [02:46] What *did* you get? [02:47] If I enable cube, it first tell me to disable wall [02:47] I answer yes [02:47] It tells me that unity depeands on wall and asks me to disable it === _LibertyZero is now known as LibertyZero [07:40] good morning [08:01] good morning [08:07] greetings everybody [08:16] good morning [08:17] im still stuck with my missing icons inside the launcher i hav re-installed all nux-unity related package im wondering what i did wrong ? [08:59] gah, what's happening [08:59] my recent experience: [09:00] all windows freeze [09:00] alt+f2, "pkill notify-osd" [09:00] magically, all windows start to work again [09:00] is there something weird where when you can't ACK dbus message, gtk+ freezes or something? [09:01] No. There *is* a weird bug where one of compiz's X connections sits around waiting for input that never comes, though. [09:02] hey didrocks [09:02] RAOF: auquarius is just stuck in that case [09:02] wb aquarius__ [09:02] RAOF: needs someone for testing/hammering his system? :) [09:03] RAOF: I have X (or compiz, or something, I don't know) wedged, so if there's anything you want me to try running, commands to do, logs to provide, I am happy to do so. [09:04] aquarius__: If you attach gdb to compiz, is it waiting in poll()? If so, yeah, I know *about* that problem (but not what's causing it, precisely where it is, or how to fix it). [09:04] you'll have to tell me how to do that [09:04] sudo gdb compiz $(pgrep compiz); bt [09:04] (njpatel's told me before, but I don't have easy access to previous conversations in this VC :)) [09:05] You need to wait for gdb to come up for the bt command to do anything interesting. [09:06] But the *problem* is (likely to be) that compiz is sitting, waiting, for X to reply to it's request. And the server doesn't. [09:06] top of the compiz backtrace is __kernel_vsyscall, and the second line is __poll, and then third is ?? in libxcb [09:07] is that what you meant? [09:07] Yeah. [09:07] That's what I meant. [09:07] ok. If there's any other information I can provide to you, having a system *in* this wedged state, I'm happy to... but it sounds like you already have all the info you need? [09:08] Yeah, I think so. And I can reproduce at least one version of that hang at will. [09:08] interestingly, when I've had this before, killing compiz and then restarting it (or starting metacity with --replace from a VC) doesn't seem to recover; normally what happens is that X quits and I have to log in again [09:09] *That's* probably an X bug to do with closing down clients. [09:10] Is there any way to work around it? Today, I don't mind -- I've only just turned my machine on (well, resumed from suspend). But other days I have work in windows that I don't really want to lose, and then end up losing them. [09:10] so today I can just service gdm restart and be fine [09:10] Attaching gdb to Xorg and acquiring a backtrace for *that* would be quite useful :) [09:10] right now? [09:11] that is, while still wedged? [09:11] Yeah, if killing compiz is going to cause it. [09:11] OK. how do I quit the gdb I have looking at compiz without killing compiz? [09:12] Just type ‘quit’; gdb won't kill compiz. [09:12] oh, I can't read. It says it'll detach from the inferior process, not kill it :) [09:12] :) [09:13] ok, so I should gdb into the /usr/bin/X process? [09:13] Yeah. [09:13] First could you install some debugging symbols? [09:13] xserver-xorg-core-dbg is the most important package. [09:13] ah [09:14] Then xserver-xorg-video-$YOUR_CARD-dbg [09:14] But that's not as critical. [09:15] ah. I do not have the latest version of xserver-xorg-core [09:15] damn. [09:15] Ah. [09:15] so I can't install -core-debug without upgrading -core, which means that a gdb backtrace won't be useful, correct? [09:15] What version do you have? I'll rustle up a link for you. [09:16] aquarius__: Correct. You need to have the -core-dbg version that corresponds to whatever is about to hang now :) [09:16] 2:1-10.0-0ubuntu3 [09:17] and it's about to install 2:1-10.0.902-1ubuntu1 [09:17] I only upgraded everything about a week ago! There have been nine hundred versions of X since? :) [09:19] That's just one version out of date; the new one was uploaded yesterday. [09:19] :) [09:19] Oh - what arch do you need? [09:19] uname -p says i686 [09:20] kamstrup, hello. What can make a Lens do this: when it's launched at startup, it crashes on utf-8 strings ("ascii codec can't encode..."), but when it's launched during a session, it handles them well. [09:20] aquarius__: http://launchpadlibrarian.net/67866223/xserver-xorg-core-dbg_1.10.0-0ubuntu3_i386.deb [09:21] (oh, and syndaemon is eating 100% CPU as well, again. Is that likely to be related?) [09:21] aquarius__: I don't think so. [09:21] Although it might make the deadlock more likely to happen. [09:22] ok. I'm happy to provide information about syndaemon as well if that's useful? [09:22] Not for me, although the ubuntuone guys might be interested :) [09:22] ahem! [09:22] syndaemon. Not syncdaemon. [09:22] Oh! [09:22] if it were syncdaemon I'd know who to talk to :) [09:23] RAOF, was "No. There *is* a weird bug where one of compiz's X connections sits around waiting for input that never comes, though." addressed to me? [09:24] magcius: Indeed it was. [09:24] Why would killing notify-osd fix it? [09:24] aquarius__: is in such a state ;) [09:24] RAOF: that's why I thought it might be related; syndaemon is sort of an X thing, no? [09:24] RAOF, also, I'm running metacity and gnome-panel, not compiz. [09:24] aquarius__: syndaemon is an X-ish thing, yeah. [09:25] aquarius__: File a bug; Chase Douglas is super-smart and up with the whole X input stack - he's who you want to talk to there. [09:25] So I assume notify-osd froze, and it's not ACK-ing D-Bus notifications, which makes GTK+ freeze. [09:25] RAOF: OK, gdb into X says "Cannot access memory at address /
in __kernel_vsyscall ()". (I haven't made it restart yet.) Is that what you'd expect it to say at this point? [09:26] aquarius__: Hm, no. [09:26] aquarius__: You need to do “sudo gdb Xorg $(pgrep X)”, due to the slightly crazy way we do things. [09:26] ah [09:27] /usr/bin/X is a little wrapper; Xorg is where the fun is. [09:27] ok, that makes sense. Now done that; X is still in __kernel_vsyscall [09:27] Yeah; it'll be polling. [09:27] (but now I get much more sensible-looking output :)) [09:27] Well, it'll be select()ing [09:27] right, so now I should kill -9 compiz and start metacity, yes? And then if X dies, get a backtrace from gdb [09:27] ? [09:28] (I'm not good with this sort of debugging, so sorry you have to give me a remedial class in it :)) [09:28] First you probably want to ‘handle SIGPIPE nostop noprint’ in gdb, or you'll get a bunch of spurious SIGPIPEs. [09:28] done [09:28] Then, yeah; kill compiz and start metacity. === API is now known as Guest98932 [09:32] well, *that* was less than successful. [09:32] Oh. [09:32] RAOF, I killed compiz fine, and then on running "DISPLAY=:0 metacity --replace" in a VC...the machine hung. [09:32] Um. You weren't trying to gdb on the same machine as X was running on? [09:33] I don't know whether the machine itself was locked up or whether just the screen wouldn't change. [09:33] RAOF, any other suggestions, or should I ping MacSlow? [09:33] (well, I just did) [09:33] RAOF, I was. I only have the one machine. :) [09:33] you're gonna tell me that this is like debugging ssh while sshed in, aren't you? [09:33] magcius, indeed :) [09:33] magcius, what's up? [09:33] aquarius: Ah. So, what happened *there* was that gdb stopped X while it was handling the VT switch. [09:33] MacSlow, running gnome-panel and metacity [09:34] occasionally, gtk+ windows lock up [09:34] aquarius: Leading to *hilarious* consequences! [09:34] pkill notify-osd [09:34] everything works [09:34] RAOF, heh. :) [09:34] magcius, hm... that's new [09:35] It is kinda possible to run gdb against X on the same machine, but it's not particularly reliable. [09:35] MacSlow, I'm running: xchat, gnome-terminal, banshee, emacs [09:35] also firefox [09:35] RAOF, ah. So, then, what we're suggesting here is: someone else has to get you your backtrace :) [09:35] it seems to happen the most with banshee's track change notifications [09:35] magcius, do you have a ~/.cache/notify-osd.log handy somewhere? [09:35] but that's usually the notifications i get [09:35] aquarius: Indeed :) [09:36] MacSlow, yes. [09:36] magcius, can you paste it somewhere? [09:36] MacSlow, all it has is the latest notification: [2011-04-12T03:59:08-00:00, notify-sharp ] Coastal Brake [09:36] by 'Tycho' from 'Coastal Brake' [09:36] could be ndesk-dbus or notify-sharp that's being dumb [09:36] magcius, hm... ok that's a dead end then... [09:37] RAOF, thanks for the help thus far, though. Given that you know about the compiz problem, and I can't debug X dying without a second machine, is there anything else that I can provide you the next time this happens? Or should I just restart X, confident in the knowledge that you're working on it? :) [09:37] magcius, do you perhaps know any method to forcefully cause this lockup? [09:37] MacSlow, nope. [09:38] I'll try some more [09:38] but when it happens again, is there anything I should do? [09:38] magcius, that would be very helpful... otherwise it's very hard to guess what's going wrong. [09:38] aquarius: I think you're off the hook :). No further debugging questions, y'rhonour. [09:38] get a gdb backtrace and see what it's polling for? [09:38] RAOF, sorry I can't be more helpful! [09:38] magcius, yes [09:38] sorry to ask again but what can i do for this please ? > http://i.imgur.com/kxkxz.png < [09:38] zniavre, looks like a driver bug [09:39] magcius, and try to save the ~/.cache/notify-osd.log as it gets overwritten when notify-osd is restarted [09:39] ho ? im using nouveau [09:39] As I said, looks like a driver bug [09:39] that s a good new [09:40] zniavre, unity has many problems with nouveau for me [09:40] zniavre: How new is your compiz? I've had approximately that bug a couple of times over teh cycle; a new compiz fixed things. [09:40] i experience this since yesterday update compiz/nouveau/unity [09:41] rodrigo_: hey rodrigo, i've noticed this bug about accessible descriptions [09:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-applet/+bug/726005 [09:41] Ubuntu bug 726005 in indicator-applet (Ubuntu) "indicator-applet crashed with SIGSEGV in g_cclosure_marshal_VOID__POINTER()" [Medium,Confirmed] [09:41] is there something in the code that looks wrong? [09:42] dbarth, looking [09:42] RAOF, i hav filled a bug report yesterday https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/757990 [09:42] Ubuntu bug 757990 in unity (Ubuntu) "missing but working icons in unity-launcher" [Undecided,New] [09:42] MacSlow, not *quite* sure how to do that considering anything gtk+-based dies, including gnome-terminal [09:43] and nvidia broke ttys :( [09:43] magcius, argl² [09:43] magcius, can you still ssh into that machine from elsewhere? [09:43] zniavre: (Fortunately?) We're not supporting nouveau's 3D, and it's likely to be a driver bug… [09:43] does notify-osd log to stderr? [09:43] * RAOF updates his nouveau machine to check. [09:44] dbarth, TheMuso should know better [09:44] I could do "/usr/libexec/notify-osd 2> ~/crashing.log" and let the system restart it when I pkill notify-osd [09:44] MacSlow, and no, no laptop nearby. This is my desktop. === daker_ is now known as daker [09:44] TheMuso, around? [09:44] RAOF, ok thank you answering do i cancel my report ? [09:45] zniavre: Leave it there; we might get around to doing something about it. [09:45] zniavre: And we'll *eventually* want to support nouveau's 3D [09:45] \o/ [09:46] magcius, well... if you start it from a shell/terminal (after killing the current one running) you could capture it's output to a file [09:46] MacSlow, right, does it log to stderr? [09:47] MacSlow, ok, I think I may have found something [09:47] loading icon 'notification-/home/jstpierre/.cache/media-art/album-d50f662d41e1699e07f0baefbc6fd145.jpg' caused error: 'Icon 'notification-/home/jstpierre/.cache/media-art/album-d50f662d41e1699e07f0baefbc6fd145.jpg' not present in theme'** [09:48] MacSlow, icon still displays fine though [09:48] so not sure if it's just a dumb warning [09:48] magcius, that looks nasty -> "notification-/" [09:49] DEBUG: [2011-04-12T04:48:46-00:00, notify-sharp, id:1, icon:/home/jstpierre/.cache/media-art/album-d50f662d41e1699e07f0baefbc6fd145.jpg] [09:49] trying to replace a normal (icon) file-name with symbolic one [09:49] looks like it's sending it across D-Bus fine [09:49] magcius, which icon-theme are you using? [09:50] Ubuntu-Mono-Dark [09:50] according to gnome-appearance-properties [09:50] magcius, this "notification-/" indicates that the symbolic icon-name-substitution is getting in the way [09:51] uh, OK [09:51] there's a workaround in place in notify-osd that I've never had time to solve properly [09:52] magcius, just can't say why it's triggered for a normal album-art icon/image [09:52] who is doing that [09:53] magcius, notify-osd [09:53] I mean the "notification-" prepending? [09:53] magcius, notfy-osd is doing that [09:53] OK [09:54] magcius, are you at home with compiling stuff yourself? [09:54] Of course. [09:54] magcius, if you want you could quickly compile notify-osd without that workaround [09:54] magcius, apt-get source notify-osd [09:54] MacSlow, https://code.launchpad.net/~jstpierre/notify-osd/365162 :D [09:54] I did that a loong time ago [09:55] magcius, notify-osd/src/bubble.c:122 set it to 0 [09:56] magcius, recompile [09:56] OK [09:56] magcius, run the resulting notify-osd binary from that and see if that solves your issue [09:56] magcius, which I'm very certain it will [09:57] The image loads fine in the end. [09:57] It was just something I saw. [09:57] magcius, still I wish we could get rid of such workarounds to fix others issues :) [09:58] Technically, they shouldn't be using icon, but image_path instead, right? [09:59] Er, wait [09:59] the "icon" property doesn't exist? [09:59] * magcius looks at http://people.gnome.org/~mccann/docs/notification-spec/notification-spec-latest.html#icons-and-images [10:00] magcius, I need to switch back to unity... anything else is better handled via sending email [10:01] OK. [10:01] * MacSlow looks at all the unread email [10:01] *rolling.eyes* === yofel_ is now known as yofel === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch === bregma_ is now known as bregma === rodrigo__ is now known as rodrigo_ === Guest98932 is now known as apinheiro_lunch === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow === zyga is now known as zyga-food === apinheiro_lunch is now known as apinheiro === om26er_ is now known as om26er [14:33] good morning lamalex [14:35] morning om26er [14:35] morning cdbs, [14:36] lamalex, I am back to triage btw [14:37] tedg, uh oh... distro patching that dbusmenu branch from mterrry broke quicklists [14:37] tedg, at least for apps that don't have an app running associated with the desktop file [14:38] kenvandine, I'm on a call, but I'm surprised that happened... I didn't realize that stuff was using dbusmenu.... [14:38] yup [14:38] dynamic quicklists [14:38] kenvandine, I'd be suspicious that was it. [14:38] i just verified, downgrading dbusmenu fixed it [14:39] kenvandine, You lie! ;-) [14:39] perhaps the bug is really somewhere in unity :) [14:39] this is just uncovering it [14:41] tedg, ok... i take that back [14:41] i must be lying :) [14:41] * tedg dances the kenvandine is a lier dance ;-) === zyga-food is now known as zyga [14:41] tedg, it worked twice in a row after downgrading [14:41] but now it failed again [14:42] must be racy [14:53] kenvandine: hi. a quick question, any hope of gwibber ever supporting a push method for new messages? [14:53] kvalo, you mean like twitter live stream? [14:54] kenvandine: something which doesn't poll :) [14:54] or real time feed, whatever they call it :) [14:54] kvalo, yes... for services that support it [14:54] and... only if i get to do the refactoring work i want to do [14:54] kenvandine: cool, so there's hope! :) [14:55] indeed :) [14:55] kenvandine: thanks [14:55] we'll be talking about that kind of stuff at UDS, so you should try to show up to show support :) [14:55] our current scheduling mechanism wouldn't really handle that kind of thing well [15:00] njpatel_, Hi! bug 734900 thoughts? [15:00] Launchpad bug 734900 in unity (Ubuntu) "window title still fades even if there are no menus" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/734900 [15:05] om26er, just do an ayatana-design task [15:05] normal design bug workflow [15:05] om26er, fixing today [15:05] heh, oh ok or not [15:05] lamalex, ;) [15:05] njpatel_, thanks === alecu_ is now known as alecu [15:35] smspillaz|z: can you please ping me when you have a spare minute ? [15:53] tedg, should i wishlist or wontfix thishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/756434 [15:53] Ubuntu bug 756434 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) "under Unity clock does not show map with locations when I click on it" [Undecided,New] [15:54] tedg, should i wishlist or wontfix this https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/756434 [15:56] lamalex, bug 756434 shoudl be wishlist -- but for indicator-datetime [15:56] Launchpad bug 756434 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) "under Unity clock does not show map with locations when I click on it" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/756434 [15:56] Oh, those were the same :-) [15:57] tedg, right [15:57] i was just fixing the space, sorry :P [15:57] lamalex, I can't imagine a reason to really have that map in there -- it seems like eye candy to me. But, it's definitely a feature request. [15:58] yah [15:58] it was definitely eye candy [15:59] but it /was/ nice in gnome 2.x [15:59] had your locations on it with daylight. i enjoyed it [15:59] was helpful for day dreaming about the weather hawaii [17:18] cdbs, i see you noticed dynamic quicklists have stopped working [17:18] sort of [17:18] i've been trying to bi-sect that today... they worked last week [17:18] kenvandine: :o [17:18] kenvandine: so I'm not alone [17:18] it works like 1 out of 10 tries :) [17:18] kenvandine: In my case they worked a few hours ago [17:18] so not completely broken, must be race condition of some sort [17:19] kenvandine: and now they won't work, I tried around 15-20 times [17:19] I didn't change the code there in unity [17:21] didrocks: any idea what's up here: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/692462/ [17:21] Ubuntu bug 692462 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "unity confused with chromium web apps" [Medium,Fix committed] [17:22] didrocks, i ruled out the bamf and dbusmenu updates [17:22] didrocks: I can reproduce on a clean install, I just don't know where to reopen, bamf or unity. [17:23] didrocks, so i am guessing either libunity or unity [17:23] but leaning towards unity [17:23] i tried the 3.6.8 gir with libunity3 and it fails too [17:24] jcastro: DBO revert a part of the merge for latest release [17:24] but that might not be a great test [17:24] since unity is using libunity4 [17:24] jcastro: it was wrong IIRC, better to check with him [17:24] didrocks: ok so is it a bamf problem or a unity problem? [17:24] ok [17:24] kenvandine: libunity didn't get any update, bamf update isn't linked to that part [17:24] DBO: yo [17:24] jcastro: bamf [17:24] didrocks, there was the API change last week... [17:25] kenvandine: yeah, but that happened since yesterday, isn't it? [17:25] jcastro, what? [17:25] didrocks, yeah, just trying to narrow down the field [17:25] didrocks, i am not sure it worked consistently yesterday [17:25] i know it worked consistently last week [17:25] DBO: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/692462/ this isn't Fix Released anymore [17:25] Ubuntu bug 692462 in chromium-browser (Ubuntu) "unity confused with chromium web apps" [Medium,Fix committed] [17:25] now it works rarely [17:25] fails in both vala and python for sure [17:25] jcastro, yeah I need to speak with trevino [17:25] so not pygi [17:25] DBO: this is related: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/744972 [17:25] his work is crashing [17:25] Ubuntu bug 744972 in bamf (Ubuntu) "BAMF window matching for Chromium webapps" [Undecided,Confirmed] [17:25] ah ok [17:26] i am about to revert the whole shooting match [17:26] thanks for the update [17:26] * didrocks is happy to not merging that himself and let DBO handle it :-) [17:26] didrocks, dont touch bamf right now [17:26] DBO: oh, I don't! :-) [17:27] jcastro, if you can get me in touch with him [17:27] that would be good [17:27] that's exactly why I told jcastro the other day I didn't want to touch this merge :-) [17:27] I just panged him on irc === jackneill is now known as Jackneill [17:34] are you folks aware of a bug with multiple icons on the Launcher? [17:35] didrocks, i am suspicious of rev 1105 of unity [17:35] * DBO rips jonos head off [17:35] for the same app, I mean [17:35] "merge neils branch of epic win" [17:35] DBO, :-) [17:35] kenvandine: it's the one merging the urgent icons new API and removing the other one [17:35] kenvandine, neil needs to learn to name his branches better [17:35] jono: happens when bamfdaemon is restarting [17:36] - DbusmenuMenuitem* item = NULL; [17:36] didrocks, ahhh [17:36] + QuicklistMenuItem* menu_item = NULL; [17:36] + DbusmenuMenuitem* item = NULL; [17:36] it seems to be touching that area [17:36] kenvandine: argh [17:36] let me kill Neil to remove my work :) [17:36] hehe [17:38] then [17:38] + menu_item = GetNthItems (index); [17:38] + if (!menu_item) [17:38] + return false; [17:38] perhaps dbusmenu isn't finished setting up when he does that check? [17:38] * kenvandine really has no clue, just random guesses here [17:38] but this looks suspicious [17:38] * kenvandine goes to lunch :) [17:39] kenvandine: probably, and so we are back to first point, with the race (the one mterry fixed) [17:45] jono, if you have a reliable method of reproducing the bamf crash [17:45] please tell me [17:46] DBO, I didn't see a bamf crash, I started Gwibber and saw three icons :-) [17:46] jono, what else do you have running? [17:46] what favorites do you have [17:47] DBO, in my launcher? [17:47] yes [17:48] Nautilus, Firefox, Terminal, Tomboy, USC, XChat-GNOME, GTG, Thunderbird, GTK-Record-My-Desktop, GEdit, Skype, Gimp, Ubuntu One Control Panel, and I have Evolution open (three icons) and Gwibber (three icons) [17:48] DBO, ^ [17:49] I have also seen multiple banshee icons before [17:49] whcih ones have you pinned? [17:49] it seems to be apps started from the indicators that have muiltiple icons [17:49] all those apps are ones I have pinned to my launcher [17:50] I think it is something to do with starting apps from indicators [17:50] I haven't noticed this issue with other apps [17:50] you dont have any non-pinned apps running? [17:50] DBO, I do, Gedit, GTG, XChat, Firefox [17:50] oh hang on [17:50] no [17:50] non-pinned apps, no [17:50] well [17:51] Evo and Gwibber are not pinned, I start them from the indicators, and I have them running [17:53] lamalex: set-lp-dup is what you want [17:53] DBO, the comments suggest quite some users got it while using file selector dialog [17:53] seb128, k [17:54] I need all of these dupes traced === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|break [17:54] can i get some retracing done? [17:57] why the shit cant I get bamf to crash [17:57] DBO, the retracers are working [17:57] if I fail to fix this bug for a 3rd time I think seb128 will just kill me [17:57] not sure what you mean [17:58] maybe I looked at the wrong dupe [17:58] the thing is that they just clean and close the new bugs since they have the same stacktrace [17:58] that's the best way to avoid making public private infos [17:58] the duplicates are cleaned and turned public [17:59] with different strings [17:59] which I need to see [17:59] no luck for you then [17:59] :( [17:59] thats crap [18:00] well jono had the issue [18:01] he probably has the .crash locally and can give you some infos [18:01] bamf has crashed for me [18:01] I saw an error dialog [18:02] seb128, where would I find a .crash ? [18:02] jono, in /var/crash [18:02] _usr_lib_bamf_bamfdaemon.1000.crash [18:02] I have that [18:02] right [18:02] jono, so can you do that [18:02] install bamfdaemon-dbgsym [18:02] seb128, what do you want me to do? [18:02] then double click on that .crash in nautilus [18:03] or use ubuntu-bug -c on it [18:03] ok, one sec [18:03] E: Unable to locate package bamfdaemon-dbgsym [18:03] seb128, ^ [18:04] jono, what arch do you use? [18:04] seb128, x86 [18:04] how come people there don't have a ddeb source configured ;-) [18:05] jono, so either configure a ddeb apt source as described on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash or wget http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/pool/main/b/bamf/bamfdaemon-dbgsym_0.2.86-0ubuntu1_i386.ddeb and dpkg -i it [18:05] jono, ddeb source is basically adding "deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com natty main restricted universe multiverse" to your sources.list [18:06] seb128, ok, I installed it and double-clicked on it in FF and now it is filing a bug [18:07] jono, thanks, can you make the bug public and give the number when it's filed? or if you don't want to make it public subscribe me to it [18:07] jono, bamf shouldn't have any private data out of the name of running applications if you are fine making those infos public [18:08] np, one sec [18:09] seb128, so it is registering "bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in dbus_g_connection_register_g_object()" of which there are other bugs and dupes [18:09] should I file it anyway [18:09] ? [18:09] jono, yes [18:09] jono, DBO needs info from a new bug [18:10] seb128, DBO https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/758965 [18:10] the other ones got cleaned by the retracers [18:10] Ubuntu bug 758965 in bamf (Ubuntu) "bamfdaemon crashed with SIGABRT in dbus_g_connection_register_g_object()" [Undecided,New] [18:10] seb128: can you stop the retracer from cleaning this one? [18:10] DBO, https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69148113/Stacktrace.txt [18:10] didrocks, we can once, but it will add the first one it retracers to the stacktraces db and dup the next ones from it [18:10] thank you seb128 [18:10] DBO, thanks jono [18:11] thanks jono [18:11] np [18:11] let me know if there is anything I else I can do to help [18:11] #10 0x080561bc in open_office_window_setup_timer (args=0x90f4198) at bamf-matcher.c:1347 [18:11] yes its always open office [18:11] DBO, other bugs suggested they were using libreoffice to open a document when they got it [18:12] DBO: you got the gdb crashdump on the bug as well if you have an i386 install and want to play withit [18:13] amd64 [18:13] but thank you [18:17] seb128, can you confirm this [18:17] open libre writer, and then libre calc [18:17] then open the FIle Open from writer [18:17] does that crash it? === daker is now known as daker_ [18:19] DBO, just having one librewriter opening the fileselector and closing it seems enough [18:20] or rather just opening the fileselector seems enough [18:20] for me i need both [18:20] either way this gives me what I need [18:21] and I can confirm the duplication [18:22] DBO, it's not specific to libreoffice by reading the comments though, this stacktrace seemed specific to it [18:22] every stacktrace I have seen has had the open office delay timer in it [18:22] sometimes the apport window pops late [18:23] ok [18:26] kamstrup: any idea what could be going on here? our lens stopped working on login: https://bugs.launchpad.net/askubuntu-lens/+bug/758839 [18:26] Ubuntu bug 758839 in AskUbuntu Lens "Lens doesn't start on login" [Undecided,New] [18:28] jcastro: anything in .xsession-errors? [18:28] DBO, ok, can you do that: wget https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69149337/_usr_lib_bamf_bamfdaemon.1000.crash, apport-unpack _usr_lib_bamf_bamfdaemon.1000.crash dir; cd dir; and use gdb on the crashdump there? [18:28] DBO, it's the crash from skaet, she just added it and she said she didn't use libreoffice [18:28] DBO, so might be worth checking the stacktrace from this one [18:28] where is the trace? [18:29] DBO, I just copied the commands for you to use gdb on it [18:29] DBO: then type "bt" [18:29] yeah, thanks :) [18:29] DBO, it's not retraced but that way you can get debug infos locally [18:30] DBO, can you let me know if the stacktrace is a libreoffice one as well or if it's a different case. skaet think she didn't use libreoffice [18:30] DBO: quite some of the duplicates suggest it happen with firefox in some cases as well [18:31] oh it does [18:31] DBO, opening a fileselector in firefox crash bamf here [18:31] seb128, confirmed [18:31] DBO, ok, so I think you got what you need [18:31] DBO, happy debugging [18:32] yeah [18:32] thanks [18:37] DBO, r-t is asking when you think you can get a fix? they would like to get it fixed in beta2 if possible seeing the number of users running into it and the easy way to trigger it [18:37] seb128, today [18:38] DBO, ok, please let me or didrocks know when you have a fix to try or that we can backport to natty [18:38] didrocks, ^ [18:38] seb128: yeah, I'll upload right away in case of a respin [18:38] DBO: ^ [18:39] didrocks, thanks [18:39] didrocks, upload right away in any case, I told skaet we would get it in the queue for them once it's ready [18:39] didrocks, then they can do what they judge right === MacSlow|break is now known as MacSlow [20:36] cdbs, i have a fix for the broken quicklists [20:36] https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/unity/make-quicklists-work-again/+merge/57386 [20:37] it looks like mterry's previous fix got reverted accidentally [20:39] kenvandine: :o [20:40] kenvandine: nice catch [20:40] * cdbs 'll test it [21:22] kenvandine: ping [21:22] cdbs, pong [21:22] kenvandine: the fix worked, but a new problem, if the dbusmenu specified contains a hidden menuitem, then unity crashes [21:22] * cdbs reports [21:22] ugh [21:22] thx [22:03] DBO, what do we know about the ivisible windows bug? [22:04] i have a guy who says he can trigger it with the grid plugin [22:04] it should be mostly resolved [22:06] DBO, as of when [22:06] this was filed on the 10th [22:06] link? [22:07] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/756765 [22:07] Ubuntu bug 756765 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz + grid, turn window invisible" [Undecided,New] [22:07] that is the grid clipping bug [22:07] its fixed on the 11th [22:11] k [22:11] thanks [22:13] didrocks wanted this but whatever [22:13] bug 759198 [22:13] Error: Launchpad bug 759198 could not be found [22:13] ubot fails [22:13] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/759198 [23:13] The lockscreen is ugly. [23:14] It's probably what I hate most about my Ubuntu experience. [23:19] bamfdaemon just crashed out of the blur. [23:19] But instead of getting the backtrace I closed the window unconsciously, heh. [23:23] I just got a GPU lockup and apport crashing while submitting. [23:36] I'm wondering if this is worth submitting a bug to Ayatana. The launcher in unity recognizes input with a control key as a garabge character. For example, typing Ctrl+V or Ctrl+A into the launcher results in garbage text being shown. [23:39] This is in the natty beta btw [23:42] sergio__: submit the bug to unity [23:42] (check if it's submitted) [23:42] I'll confirm it [23:43] Omega, i havent seen one, so i was just wondering if it seemed bug worthy [23:44] affects mee too. I would say it's quite worth a bug report [23:44] I mean, I really would like to be able to paste into the thing [23:53] Something actually shows up when you search for .,,ctrl+/ [23:53] not for me [23:53] ctrl+i gives a big space [23:54] ctrl+a does select all [23:54] ctrl+j is little space? [23:55] as wel as ctrl m [23:56] And we have a crash! [23:59] go figure any combination of ctrl and , . ; ' works fine