[01:37] <coz_>  hey
[09:49] <pentesilea_> Does somebody know where i can get a description about how to create an own iconset?
[09:49] <Ronnie> pentesilea_: http://design.canonical.com/brand/8.%20Pictograms.pdf
[09:49] <Ronnie> and more information can be found here: http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ubuntu-brand-guidelines/
[09:52] <Ronnie> chaotic, iainfarrell, ivanka: i have some questions about the guidelines. Our loco team is creating a new logo, i've made some mockups here: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/Artwork/Projecten/Logos/Ubuntu-NL#Ronnie . It contains a modification of the COF, while its against the brand guidelines, do we get into trouble if we use such icons ?
[09:53] <iainfarrell> hey Ronnie
[09:53] <iainfarrell> let me have a look
[09:53] <iainfarrell> the guidelines we produced were more for people using the CoF referring to us
[09:53] <iainfarrell> so if someone in the press was talking about Ubuntu
[09:53] <iainfarrell> then we don't want them using the logo incorrectly
[09:54] <iainfarrell> your loco team should be allowed to play with it
[09:54] <iainfarrell> for your own identifying graphic
[09:54] <pentesilea_> Ronny: thanks! But there I  ould not find anything about the names and directories of the icons.
[09:55] <Ronnie> iainfarrell: thx!. Are there any limitations to the extend we can play with it, for example colou use restricted to one color (and white) ?
[09:56] <iainfarrell> let me go talk to Marcus, our brand guardian
[09:56] <iainfarrell> 2 secs
[10:01] <pentesilea_> Ronnie: I will have a look on this documents.
[10:02] <iainfarrell> hey Ronnie
[10:02] <iainfarrell> so I chatted to Marcus
[10:03] <iainfarrell> and one thing we were thinking about your graphics you've made
[10:03] <iainfarrell> is that there's a lot going on in a very small area
[10:03] <iainfarrell> it's quite hard to see the country in there
[10:03] <iainfarrell> I was thinking maybe using some detail from a flag
[10:04] <iainfarrell> might be a nice way to go
[10:04] <iainfarrell> because it would scale a bit better than the outline of a country
[10:04] <iainfarrell> and it's more in keeping with the graphic style we use in pictograms we commission
[10:05] <Ronnie> our flag does not have much details http://www.engelsehoeve.nl/images/NL-Flag.gif and the colors really do not match, orange with the flag is horrable
[10:06] <Ronnie> if i leave the colors out, there isnt much left
[10:06] <iainfarrell> Ronnie: see what you mean
[10:08] <iainfarrell> well to look at it another way, what is there that says "netherlands" ? :)
[10:12] <Ronnie> iainfarrell: thats very hard. there are typically dutch things, but there all from the year 1900 (mills, wooden shoes). We have tulips, but thats not dutch specific. and we have a lot of water
[10:12] <Ronnie> we have a lion (the shape of out country)
[10:12] <iainfarrell> mills and shoes seem like a good place to start if they resonate
[10:12] <iainfarrell> because they are quite distinct
[10:12] <iainfarrell> I think the Mill would be nice
[10:12] <iainfarrell> very obvious shape
[10:12] <iainfarrell> distinct arms
[10:13] <iainfarrell> and would still be easy to make out when small
[10:14] <Ronnie> hmm, ill have a look
[15:25] <dashua> chaotic, What is the expected design of the memenu entry box?  Is this proper -> http://picpaste.com/Screenshot-kHITyalj.png
[15:36] <chaotic> dashua: hi, I'll need to check. It's been a while since I looked at the Me Menu designs
[15:37] <chaotic> dashua: although I think originally we used a light background to make it feel more like a field
[16:07] <dashua> chaotic, Ok thanks, there are a few usability bugs reported on it and was trying to get it fixed.