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keesI'm trying to output some json for harvest.00:24
keesI see from http://harvest.ubuntu.com/opportunities/ things like "karmic" and "merges"00:24
keeshow do I define those metadata for my exported json items?00:24
bdmurraykees: I think that is based on the filename for the opportunity00:25
keesbdmurray: oh! so it is.00:26
keesI guess I should rename mine from "index.json" to something more interesting. :)00:27
bdmurraykees: yes you need to sell it better00:27
keesbdmurray: I'll name it aaaaawesome ;)00:28
keeshttp://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-security/d2u/debian-security.json there00:30
bdmurraykees: merged keep an eye out harvest to make sure it works out okay00:35
keesbdmurray: oooh, thanks!00:39
keesbdmurray: how often does harvest consolidate from its opportunities lists?00:39
bdmurraykees: don't know really00:40
keesoaky, cool00:42
ubv16hi. if I connect my laptop to monitor through VGA port and use xrandr (resolution 1920x1200), my taskbar is getting unsorted like this: http://image.bayimg.com/mahmlaadi.jpg10:23
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kamusinI am having an issue that I am not sure who is the guilty..  if I open a music file from nautilus this launched totem as media player but should be banshee instead, should I reassign this issue to gnome-control-center (is already reported in banshee)?14:15
om26erkamusin, check in preferred apps if banshee is the default music player14:17
om26erit should not be banshee-14:17
om26erbanshee-114:17
kamusinom26er, banshee is checked as my default media player of course heh14:18
om26erkamusin, try 'custom' and 'banshee' as the executable14:19
kamusinsame behaviour, by the way I wrote banshee and automatically sets again to default (banshee)14:21
yofelkamusin: what are the file associations for the music file in nautilus?14:31
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kamusinyofel, give me a second (checking..)14:33
JanCTotem has always been the default for opening any media files, including music files?14:34
kamusinyofel, totem is marked heh.. that could be due to my system upgrade .. but original reporter said (apport) that is using Natty from a fresh installation14:35
yofelwell, I have no idea what gnome-control-center is supposed to do there, but this is actually how I would expect it to work, as the used application is defined by the mime type settings14:36
JanCg-c-c sets the application that gets started when you plug in a mediaplayer or when you press the "mediaplayer key" on your keyboard & such?14:38
JanCat least, I think that's what it does14:39
JanCprobably not even the mediaplayer thing14:39
kamusingot it,  any way by default nautilus has set to totem as default media player, maybe this should be replaced by banshee instead to be more consistent14:41
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trinikronohow long is the meeting from now?15:45
charlie-tcatrinikrono: 2hrs and 15 minutes15:46
trinikronothanks charlie-tca thats 1pm for me16:22
trinikronoima shutdown now16:23
tomtiger11am i late17:11
tomtiger11Hello17:15
tomtiger11Hello!17:15
yofelhi tomtiger11, if you mean the meeting it's in 45m17:17
tomtiger11i just found out!17:17
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bdmurrayHappy 2nd Tuesday everyone18:00
yofelo/18:00
bdmurraySince its the 2nd Tuesday that means it is time for the Bug Squad Meeting18:01
trinikronoim there18:01
trinikronobdmurray: we are after the kernel meeting?18:01
bdmurraytrinikrono: we've been having the bug squad meeting here18:02
* charlie-tca waves18:02
pedro_hello18:02
* hggdh waves18:03
micahgo/18:03
bdmurrayhowever maybe we should think about moving it to #ubuntu-meeting - we can discuss that towards the end of the meeting18:03
trinikronoo/18:03
bdmurraySome action items came out of our last meeting18:04
bdmurray1) Follow up with nigelb regarding edit bugsquad headers to be similar or link to each other appropriately18:04
bdmurrayIIRC he indicated after the meeting he was still planning on working on this18:05
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bdmurrayIts been a fair bit though so I'll check in with again18:05
bdmurraymicahg you updated the needs-packaging wiki page correct?18:06
nigelbbdmurray: yes, I still am :)18:06
micahgbdmurray: about an hour ago :)18:06
bdmurraymicahg: well it got done though!18:06
bdmurrayvish was to add more people to the bugsquad mentorship group alpha and I know this has happened18:08
bdmurraythere have been some good discussions on that team's mailing list18:08
bdmurrayLastly - BrianMurray to email bugsquad regarding #ubuntu-bugs channel watchers18:09
bdmurrayThat hasn't happened but will today.18:09
bdmurraySo those are all the actions from the last meeting18:09
bdmurrayvish: Are you around to discuss the mentorship program?18:10
bdmurrayI'm pretty happy with the renewed activity and discussions.  Does anybody have anything else to discuss regarding the program?18:11
bdmurrayOkay then, moving on.  We have no new bug control members to announce since the last meeting.18:13
charlie-tcaI like the idea that things are being discussed, too18:13
hggdhfinally!18:14
bdmurrayFrom UDS natty I had a work item to investigate making karma more informative on the +karma page for people.  From looking at the Launchpad database there really isn't a way to make that page more informative.18:15
bdmurrayThe table just has a record of the action taken and the project it happened on.18:16
bdmurraySo we can't find out what bug someone set to Triaged or what have you.18:17
micahgI was told karma might be going away in any case18:17
bdmurrayI didn't immediately recall why we specifically wanted this.  Does anyone remember the use case?18:17
trinikronoi believe the plan was to see what bugs karma was gotten from18:18
bdmurrayokay, but why?  How would that help someone do their work?18:18
charlie-tcaYou can see that by clicking on the bugs information on the page18:19
trinikronowell for one you would be able to see what bugs a new triager worked on and received karma18:19
bdmurraycharlie-tca: hmm, where?18:20
micahgkarma is irrelevant in that though18:20
charlie-tcaIf you are looking at an individual, you click on Bugs18:20
charlie-tcaIt shows all the bugs they worked on18:21
charlie-tcaWhether they are a new triager or not, the bugs they touched are still there18:21
bdmurraycharlie-tca: I'm pretty sure not everything shows up there, but regardless I'm still not clear on the use case.18:22
bdmurrayIt sounds like following the work of a triager is the goal18:22
charlie-tcaI am not clear on it either. It seems like too much emphasis on getting karma, to me.18:22
micahgthat's bug 37989318:24
ubot4Launchpad bug 379893 in launchpad "no way to stalk other users (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 9)" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/37989318:24
bdmurraymicahg: thanks, I'll email the mailing list and see if that is really what we were looking for.18:24
bdmurraymicahg: that brings us to your item re multiarch18:26
yofelwhat was the difference between non-/official tags again?18:26
bdmurrayofficial bug tags show up when you are adding tags to a bug report18:27
yofelk18:27
bdmurrayfor example if you click the pencil by the exisiting bug tags18:27
micahgok, so, just a simple request to add this tag to track multiarch issues which will be ongoing through oneiric and probably P18:27
bdmurrayso the official ones are a decent way to get people to use the same tags18:28
bdmurraymicahg: seems reasonable to me is there a good example of when to use it?18:30
micahgif a build system or installer has a problem due to the new /usr/lib/*triplet* paths18:31
bdmurraymicahg: and what is the advantage to making it official? I'd think must people who would use that tag don't need a hint.18:32
bdmurrays/must/most/18:32
micahglack of typos? documented on tags page?18:32
bdmurrayyofel: they also appear first in the list of tags on the bug's web page18:32
yofelah, good to know18:33
bdmurraymicahg: okay, lets do it then18:33
micahgdone18:34
* micahg goes to document18:35
bdmurrayOkay, that covers everything on the agenda.  Are there any other topics to discuss?18:35
yofelwe were talking about moving to -meeting at the beginning. Any benefit in doing that?18:36
trinikronowell i thought thats where the meeting was18:36
trinikronosince it was in the fridge agenda18:36
charlie-tcathe issue with using #ubuntu-meeting is finding a time slot that is open18:37
bdmurrayand convenient18:37
bdmurraythis time seems to have been working reasonably well18:38
duanedesigno/18:38
bdmurrayI think we should stay here fwiw18:39
bdmurrayduanedesign: do you have something?18:40
duanedesignbdmurray: sorry, was just saying hi :P18:40
bdmurraycool, anything else?18:41
duanedesignbdmurray: i know ddecator has been working on an outline for /bugs/HOwToTriage18:41
charlie-tca+1 for here18:41
bdmurrayduanedesign: great I saw an email about that18:42
bdmurrayI'd like to remind everyone that Natty is due very soon now.  So keep and eye out for High and Critical bugs and please ping me if you find one you think needs fixing in Natty.18:43
duanedesignI talked too some people in the Beginners Team Documentation Focus Group wwho would like to help implement that outline once it getds hammered out18:43
duanedesignso if any help is needed implementing the changes, that is an option18:44
bdmurraycool, thanks!18:44
micahgoh, reason to go to #ubuntu-meeting might be non-bugsquad people participating?18:44
charlie-tcaum, what reason would non-bugsquad people have to do that? They can join here, too, right?18:45
micahgcharlie-tca: lots of people idle in -meeting18:45
bdmurraymicahg: true, my thought was it would be complicated to find a time.18:47
charlie-tcaI see that as more reason to keep the meeting here. People that idle in -meeting don't necessarily pay any attention to the meeting that is going.18:48
charlie-tcaHere, at least they join specifically to attend, if they want to.18:48
trinikronoand in the calender it does say that the meeting is in #ubuntu-bugs18:49
micahgwell, lots of people idle here too, but I figure -meeting might get more cross team participation18:49
micahgtrinikrono: calendar can be updated ;)18:49
trinikronowell i have a thought18:50
trinikronoi noticed something looking at the meeting logs18:50
trinikronohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/BugSquadTeam18:50
trinikronoits empty :o18:50
bdmurrayyes, having a meeting bot would be another advantage18:51
bdmurraymicahg: would you mind looking for a free time in #ubuntu-meeting?18:51
charlie-tcaYes, that would be an advantage.18:51
micahgbdmurray: sure, I can do that18:51
bdmurraymicahg: thanks, I'd think something around the time this started or -1 would work18:52
yofelwould be nice if the time would be close to the current one, I don't really care about the day though18:52
micahgbdmurray: do we care which day?18:53
bdmurrayI don't think so Tuesday was rather random as it was18:53
micahgk18:53
micahgI'll follow up on the ML, hopefully we can use the new time next month18:54
micahgare we planning to meet at UDS or push off a week?18:54
bdmurrayA week earlier than UDS makes some sense to me18:54
bdmurrayIn case there are any natty issues to discuss or items for UDS18:55
micahgk, has there been a call for blueprints yet on the ML?18:55
bdmurrayNo18:55
bdmurrayokay, thanks everyone!  Have a good day.18:59
jtaylorcan someone adapt the importance/milestone of bug 752647 so that it won't get overlooked before the release?18:59
ubot4Launchpad bug 752647 in matplotlib (Debian) (and 1 other project) ""import pylab" in a python console flags error "No module named _tkagg" (affects: 11) (heat: 744)" [Unknown,Unknown] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75264718:59
charlie-tcabdmurray: thanks for chairing18:59
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ileacan i report a bug that ubuntu 11.04 haves?19:23
yofel!bugs | ilea19:24
ubot4ilea: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs - Bugs in/wishes for the IRC bots (not Ubuntu) can be filed at http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-bots19:24
ileai am using kiwi now not ubuntu 11.0419:25
ileai instaled ubuntu 11.04 and haved a problem with the DSL conection19:25
ileaafter i configured it ( username, service, password) i tryed to conect and after a time it failed19:26
ileai didn't have this problem on ubuntu 10.04, 10.1019:26
ileaso this must be a bug19:26
yofelhm, do it like that: run 'apport-cli --save report.apport network-manager' in a terminal in 11.04 after doing such a failed attempt to connect19:27
yofelcopy the report.apport file somewhere you can access it from in an older release and then file the bug with 'ubuntu-bug report.apport' from a release where the connection works19:28
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ileai have to write in termianal apport-cli or how to do it ?19:29
ileai am not using linux for a long time to know19:30
yofelyes, you'll need a terminal for that19:30
yofel!terminal19:30
ubot4The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome), K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE), or Menu -> Accessories -> LXTerminal (LXDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal19:30
PiciYou'll need an internet connection for that though.19:30
njinHello, can someone reproduce and set to low bug 759040 . Thanks19:30
ubot4Launchpad bug 759040 in aptdaemon (Ubuntu) "<type 'exceptions.NameError'>: global name 'logging' is not defined (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75904019:30
yofelPici: that's why I told him to use --save19:31
Piciyofel: Oops, I missed that,.19:31
ileaafter i have the bug report how to send it?19:32
yofelilea: as I said, save the file somewhere you can access it from an older release and then file it from there. Using a live disk will work too19:34
yofelnjin: I do indeed get an aptd crash, but with Traceback: TypeError: watch_lock() takes exactly 1 argument (2 given)19:35
ileaok i will save the report and then get back to ask where to send it and how19:36
yofelah, my crash seems to be bug 75902319:37
ubot4yofel: Bug 759023 on http://launchpad.net/bugs/759023 is private19:37
ileacan you please tell me a more exactly witch comand to write in terminal so that i will have the report for the internet conection bug?19:41
ileai am a little new in linux and dont know that19:41
njinyofel: mine is just "Failed to lock the cache"19:43
njinbut aptd is crashed19:44
njini've got also Title: <type 'exceptions.NameError'>: global name 'TransactionCancelled' is not defined even related to the cash locked by Synaptic19:52
mvoyofel: this is fixed in bzr and uploaded (but in the queue)20:12
yofel:)20:12
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gondoiis there a channel that I can join to talk about missing kernel modules?21:56
charlie-tcaI would think #ubuntu-kernel knows the most about kernels.22:02
gondoicharlie-tca: awesome.. didn't see that channel on the list22:02
gondoii'll check it out22:02
charlie-tcaIt's hard to spot channels, with as many as there are.22:03
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mikesergiocan someone confirm something a simple bug in natty for me before i submit it as a bug23:18
mikesergiothe launcher in unity recognizes input with a control key as a garabge character. For example, typing Ctrl+V into the launcher23:20
patrickmwhello, mikesergio.  please submit a bug and provide detailed steps to reproduce the issue.23:25

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