[03:46] <_mup_> ensemble/unit-agent-formula-upgrade r203 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com
[03:46] <_mup_> upgrade workflows
[04:30] <_mup_> ensemble/new-hook-semantics-5-docs r196 committed by jim.baker@canonical.com
[04:30] <_mup_> New hook semantics editing, along with more general copy editing of the formulas section
[07:16] <_mup_> ensemble/yaml-state-node r184 committed by bcsaller@gmail.com
[07:16] <_mup_> When setting same content even different cached node version don't raise error 
[07:16] <_mup_> This is similar to the behavior of retry_change as used in the state/hook.py code. If however the change is different a BadVersionError will be raised. This commit fixes a small typo that vexed me far too long.
[10:04] <_mup_> ensemble/config-state-manager r186 committed by bcsaller@gmail.com
[10:04] <_mup_> using YAMLState object for config_get/set
[10:13] <_mup_> Bug #758583 was filed: Should refactor out pattern of applying changes to zookeeper nodes <Ensemble:New> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/758583 >
[15:59] <_mup_> ensemble/state-machine-enhancements r205 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com
[15:59] <_mup_> restore match support, to build alias functionality
[16:25] <_mup_> ensemble/state-machine-enhancements r206 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com
[16:25] <_mup_> morph matching into transition aliases and document
[16:33] <_mup_> ensemble/state-machine-enhancements r207 committed by kapil.thangavelu@canonical.com
[16:33] <_mup_> alias transition property
[16:34] <hazmat> niemeyer_lunch, ping me when you've got a moment, i wanted to talk about recording workflow transition cycles
[17:02] <niemeyer> hazmat: Cool
[17:02] <niemeyer> There's a server meeting starting in #ubuntu-meeting right now
[17:02] <niemeyer> Since we qualify as "server team" now, it'd be good to participate
[17:06] <kim0> IS can be slow to get sites up
[17:07] <kim0> feel free to give me the ticket number and I'll pester them some more :)
[17:20] <niemeyer> kim0: Yeah.. cool, will hand it in a momment
[17:44] <kim0> We're on the tubez https://twitter.com/#!/ubuntucloud/status/57846045803159552
[17:44] <kim0> spread the love :)
[17:45] <jimbaker> kim0, like the appropriate background image
[17:46] <kim0> jimbaker: hmm surprisingly I'm just getting blue background for now
[17:47] <kim0> jimbaker: you're see'ing the "clouds" image right
[17:47] <kim0> Twiter must be coserving bandwidth or something :)
[17:47] <jimbaker> yes, it looks like an african savanna setting too
[17:48] <jimbaker> those trees in the image always remind me of the pbs nature program - i must have a concept neuron for that :)
[18:02] <hazmat> niemeyer, up for that upgrade discussion now?
[18:02] <niemeyer> hazmat: Yeah, let's do it
[18:05] <hazmat> niemeyer, just ping me on skype when your ready
[18:05] <niemeyer> hazmat: Already ready
[18:41] <jimbaker> how much does txaws actually work with eucalyptus for issues around buckets? the description of bug 725082 implies to me that it's our usage of txaws that's causing this problem, but i don't see any support for that
[18:41] <_mup_> Bug #725082: DNS error when specifying a different S3 URI <Ensemble:In Progress by jimbaker> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/725082 >
[18:41] <SpamapS> Ok.. now that I've had coffee and I'm well fed I can rationally discuss updating principia for ensemble. :)
[18:42] <SpamapS> I've opened 2 bugs in principia to update all the hooks and the formulate/proof tools
[18:42] <SpamapS> And I got to thinking.. can we have _mup_ watch principia's bug tracker?
[18:42] <jimbaker> in particular it seems to fail within txaws.s3.client.URLContext and how that interacts with query submission
[18:44] <jimbaker> i looked at both txaws trunk and 0.0.1, they produce the same problems (and don't seem to differ here). also, there doesn't seem to be any testing with respect to walrus. now comparing against boto, which has seen some love from eucalyptus devs
[18:45] <jimbaker> SpamapS, did you have a chance to look at my updated version of lp:~jimbaker/ensemble/bashified-wordpress-mysql-examples ?
[18:46] <SpamapS> jimbaker: no. :( I have no time whatsoever again... bugs must be fixed! ISO's must be tested! ;)
[18:46] <jimbaker> i should also push my latest version of some editing i did on the formula docs... may need to split it out, since i did a lot of copy editing, not just updates related to new hook semantics
[18:46] <jimbaker> SpamapS, not a problem!
[18:47] <jimbaker> just thought it might help focus with the conversion since imho, it actually makes things easier than the previous semantics
[18:47] <SpamapS> not to mention the impending doom I feel as my talk is now 27 hours away and I have approximately 2 slides.
[18:47] <jimbaker> SpamapS, oh... what's this?
[18:47] <SpamapS> not ensemble
[18:47] <SpamapS> talking about Drizzle in natty
[18:48] <SpamapS> at the MySQL user's conference
[18:48] <jimbaker> ok, you're going have to rally on that
[18:48] <SpamapS> I have the esteemed advantage of talking in the final spot of the day, so I can run short and nobody will demand a refund from O'Reilly :)
[18:48] <jimbaker> but feel free to come here for help on slides for anything ensemble related, we should be able to pump stuff out
[18:49] <SpamapS> I really wish OSCON didn't close their CFP so early.. I'd love to talk about Ensemble there. :-P
[18:49] <jimbaker> SpamapS, it's a little late for this talk - but i found that writing slides in rst is so much better... and then converting to a presentation to a fellow canonical employee's tool, rst2pdf
[18:50] <SpamapS> http://www.cloudcamp.org/sandiego/2011-06-14
[18:50] <SpamapS> here's an idea tho!
[18:50] <jimbaker> http://lateral.netmanagers.com.ar/stories/BBS52.html
[18:50] <SpamapS> jimbaker: not a bad idea! I was thinking of doing console presenter..
[18:50] <SpamapS> :)
[18:51] <jimbaker> (that's roberto alsina's blog and tool)
[18:51] <SpamapS> But no.. I have some fun visuals to throw out with my word play on natty natalia near a wall narwhal fizzle with sizzle for drizzle my nizzle
[18:51] <jimbaker> i found it super, super, super easy
[18:52] <jimbaker> but i guess it's because i hate so much formatting code for presentations, and in this case, no such need , since pygments does the work for me :)
[18:52] <SpamapS> If I didn't have to fix this PHP bug I'd even get my example blog deployed w/ ensemble. ;)
[18:53] <SpamapS> jimbaker: hmm.. so you can embed images too..
[18:53] <jimbaker> cloudcamp looks like a good venue
[18:53] <SpamapS> this may actually be worth converting
[18:53] <jimbaker> SpamapS, yeah, it does work pretty well
[18:54] <jimbaker> i just used the standard ubuntu pdf viewer (whatever that is) for my talk at pycon, but there are some good choices to do interesting transitions too
[18:58] <hazmat> jimbaker, bcsaller standup?
[18:58] <bcsaller> sure
[18:58] <hazmat> jimbaker, so your saying txaws has euca support?
[18:59] <jimbaker> hazmat, apparently this may be more than what is offered then :)
[18:59] <hazmat> jimbaker, skype?
[18:59] <jimbaker> i do know there's mention of eucalyptus support in the code
[19:00] <jimbaker> hazmat, just logging on as it approaches 6p utc
[19:18] <jimbaker> i'm just getting some weird static output on the skype call right now
[19:18] <jimbaker> i'm going to hang up, please call me back in
[19:20] <hazmat> jimbaker, calling
[19:20] <jimbaker> hazmat, switching to my os x laptop, something's wrong here w/ my natty laptop
[19:23] <hazmat> jimbaker, cool
[19:25] <jimbaker> hazmat, try call me back in now, i think rebooting fixed my natty laptop's sound
[19:26] <jimbaker> (i can everybody now, so that's much better than weird static popping noises!)
[21:18] <hazmat> lxc in natty seems kinda of broken
[21:25] <jimbaker> hazmat, in what way?
[21:56] <hazmat> jimbaker, as in it fails several different ways when attempting to use it
[21:56] <hazmat> there's a new ubuntu-template for various releases.
[21:57] <hazmat> creating a natty one.. and then trying to execute bash in it.. or start it. fails. with different error messages, tried copying /usr/lib/lxc/lxc-init.. and installing libcap, but still fails.. all different error messages, all inscrutable to me
[22:03] <hazmat> jimbaker, are you working on the status thing?
[22:03] <hazmat> jimbaker, i've started implementing a unit workflow zk accessor  thingy which was also needed for status
[22:03] <hazmat> just curious
[22:04] <hazmat> no pushed branch on it afaics
[23:01] <niemeyer> OMG, can't believe inbox is empty again
[23:01] <niemeyer> If I didn't answer a mail someone sent me, please ping me because I've missed it for real :)
[23:16] <jimbaker> hazmat, i have just started working on the this before getting pulled onto other things
[23:16] <jimbaker> the zk accessor stuff sounds useful
[23:18] <hazmat> jimbaker, so i can mark the bug 737949 as unassigned?
[23:18] <_mup_> Bug #737949: ensemble status should take into account unit and relation workflows and unit agent status <Ensemble:In Progress by jimbaker> < https://launchpad.net/bugs/737949 >
[23:44] <jimbaker> hazmat, i guess that's ok. i would still prefer to finish my work on it however
[23:46] <jimbaker> what sort of api are you considering for the zj accessor? is this just implementing the load-only version of the WorkflowState classes (what i'm dubbing ObserveUnitWorkflowState, etc)?