[02:28] <dluzius> installation of 10.10 looks like it's amost done, but just when I expect to see the ubuntu desktop I am left looking at a prompt...
[02:29] <dluzius> I'm trying to have a dual-boot laptop, with my Toshiba satellite
[02:29] <dluzius> what am I doing wrong ???
[02:34] <dluzius> I am using a live cd I burned from an iso file I downloaded from Ubuntu.com
[02:35] <dluzius> I changed my BIOS boot order so the CDROM comes before the HDD
[02:36] <dluzius> I have done this b4 on my desktop and it went well, but not this time...
[02:37] <dluzius> please help me with this
[02:39] <genec> what kind of prompt?
[02:40] <genec> dluzius: I'd assume you've already successfully installed and you're in your first boot of your new system but only see a "prompt"
[02:40] <genec> I know sometimes I'll see a blinking cursor rather than the splash during boot but the hard drive is normally going mad.
[02:40] <dluzius> yes, and it looks like a $, similar to a Terminal prompt
[02:41] <dluzius> the rest of the entire screen is black
[02:43] <genec> only "$" or is there more?
[02:43] <dluzius> there might have been more, but I don't remember what it said..
[02:47] <genec> was it a typical BIOS 80x25 text screen (or possibly the mildly graphically enhanced version)?
[02:48] <dluzius> neither... just the whole screen
[02:51] <genec> ever used DOS on a computer (not a prompt in a window)?
[02:52] <dluzius> yes, but it was a long time ago
[02:52] <genec> (just making sure you understand what I mean by an 80x25 text screen that's normally full screen)
[02:52] <dluzius> I tried typing in quit,  exit,
[02:53] <dluzius> nothing seemed to satisfy it
[02:55] <genec> I'm a little stumped at what you could be seeing.  tried the Alt-FN keys to change VT or commands like ls or pwd?
[02:55] <dluzius> for the life of me, I can't figure out why it got hung on the $ prompt
[02:58] <dluzius> the install from the cd had proceeded through asll of the steps, ,, time zone, language, and proceeded to show me the slide show while it continued..
[02:58] <genec> but why did it present that?  where did it come from?  what environment is it?  that's what escapes me.
[02:58] <dluzius> what is VT
[02:59] <genec> VT: Virtual Terminal.  the fact that Linux (like many Unix-like OSs) can have multiple local sessions simultaneously
[02:59] <dluzius> it even said install was successful..
[02:59] <dluzius> ok
[02:59] <genec> by Alt-FN I'm talking Alt-F1 through Alt-F12 but most distros don't use anything after 7 for normal stuff
[03:00] <genec> and it eventually ejected the CD and said hit enter to reboot?
[03:00] <dluzius> I've been looking for a solution on the net, and changed my user name to dave, all lowercase..
[03:01] <genec> was it like "ubuntu@ubuntu:~$" perhaps?
[03:01] <dluzius> yes, and I hit enter, and the got the $ prompt
[03:02] <dluzius> more like dave@dave~$
[03:02] <dluzius> it wants something from me, but I don't know what
[03:03] <genec> "changed your name"? was this before it ejected the CD and waited ~2minutes for you to hit enter?
[03:04] <dluzius> oops, have to go, tks for the help so farmy name in the normal sign-up procedure early on in the process
[03:05] <genec> if you somehow change the Ubuntu user account on the live CD, before reboot, that could have made things a little messy.  otherwise, I'm not sure how you saw that.
[05:34] <CarlFK> my guess is X failed to start and it didn't flip to VT1 - alt-f1 should get a proper prompt
[10:15] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4673 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/install_misc.py): Clean up after the langpacks state on multiple runs of the installer.
[10:34] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4674 trunk/ (debian/changelog ubiquity/plugins/ubi-partman.py):
[10:34] <CIA-7> ubiquity: Prefer biggest_free over resize always now that we make sure the
[10:34] <CIA-7> ubiquity: biggest_free choice offers at least 5GB.
[10:36] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4675 trunk/debian/changelog: LP bug reference.
[12:22] <moza> Hi
[12:22] <moza> how to preseeding partitioning ubuntu installation
[12:22] <moza> ?
[15:21] <CIA-7> console-setup: cjwatson * r403 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog keyboard-configuration.config):
[15:21] <CIA-7> console-setup: Don't use the default keyboard variant if the layout is overridden by
[15:21] <CIA-7> console-setup: preseeding (LP: #758584).
[15:22] <CIA-7> console-setup: cjwatson * r404 ubuntu/debian/changelog: releasing version 1.57ubuntu18
[15:24] <cjwatson> ev: ^- that should be for the next ubiquity upload, assuming it's accepted
[15:27] <ev> great, thanks
[15:48] <ev> http://paste.ubuntu.com/593147/ - look reasonable enough?
[15:48] <ev> I originally thought about filtering out the reuse option and prepared a patch to that effect
[15:49] <ev> but it doesn't work when parted_server isn't running anymore
[15:49] <ev> equally, because m-a is run under newns, it wont have the mounted partitions filtered out automatically
[15:49] <ev> like /target traditionally was
[15:50] <cjwatson> I haven't thought about it very much but that code looks safe at least - I can't think of anything it would make worse
[15:51] <cjwatson> is there any risk that this code might be run in d-i?
[15:52] <cjwatson> because busybox readlink doesn't support -e
[15:56]  * cjwatson does an expert mode test and leans on Enter a bit
[16:02] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4676 trunk/ (debian/changelog scripts/plugininstall.py):
[16:02] <CIA-7> ubiquity: Determine the home directory of the target user when copying the
[16:02] <CIA-7> ubiquity: network configuration (LP: 745607).
[16:08] <cjwatson> (needs # before the digits)
[16:08] <cjwatson> (in the changelog, I mean)
[16:11] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4677 trunk/ (bin/oem-config-remove debian/changelog):
[16:11] <CIA-7> ubiquity: Select all the ubiquity slideshow packages for removal, and do not
[16:11] <CIA-7> ubiquity: error out if none can be found (LP: #745607).
[16:14] <ev> cjwatson: the lack of # was intentional.  It was something discovered in Riddell's bug that wasn't the root cause of the bug itself.
[16:14] <cjwatson> oh ok, fair enough
[16:14] <ev> d-i> m-a isn't in d-i, but it's already using readlink elsewhere.
[16:15] <cjwatson> I usually use some slightly different construction like "see LP #nnnnnn" or "part of LP #nnnnnn" so that people aren't tempted to go and close the bug, in that case
[16:15] <ev> ah, will do in the future
[16:15] <ev> thanks
[16:15] <ev> much more clear that way
[16:17] <CIA-7> migration-assistant: evand * r109 migration-assistant/ (debian/changelog ma-ask): Filter out the target filesystem from consideration (LP: #754778).
[16:20] <CIA-7> migration-assistant: evand * r110 migration-assistant/debian/changelog: releasing version 0.6.10
[16:21] <cjwatson> argh, I did my time-consuming test on the wrong image
[16:21] <ev> ouch
[16:56] <ev> seeing a few instances of 'LockFailedException: Failed to lock /target/var/cache/apt/archives/lock' but haven't been able to trace it to anything yet
[18:04] <dluzius> need help installing ver 10.10 on my Satellite laptop
[18:05] <dluzius> I've gone thru all the install steps, and get the message that install was successful, but instead og an Ubuntu desktop, I get a black screen with a $ prompt
[18:07] <dluzius> hellop
[18:08] <dluzius> what command do I enter to go top the Ubuntu desaktop?
[18:17] <ev> dluzius: sounds like you've hit a bug
[18:18] <ev> do you see this screen after rebooting, or before?
[18:19] <ev> unless there are any objections, I'm going to sort the ubiquity upload now
[18:28] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4678 trunk/ (130 files in 3 dirs): Update translations from Launchpad.
[18:29] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4679 trunk/ (d-i/manifest debian/changelog):
[18:29] <CIA-7> ubiquity: Automatic update of included source packages: console-setup
[18:29] <CIA-7> ubiquity: 1.57ubuntu18, migration-assistant 0.6.10.
[18:37] <CIA-7> ubiquity: evand * r4680 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.6.3
[18:49] <dluzius> ev, what do I do to counteract this bug...
[18:52] <ev> dluzius: where are you seeing it?
[18:52] <ev> Have you rebooted the computer since installing?
[18:53] <dluzius> yes, and it opens to GRUB, with Ubuntu at the top of the menu, and after the countdown it goes to the black screen witrh the $ prompt
[18:55] <dluzius> ahead of the prompt, it says welcome to Ubuntu!
[18:58] <dluzius> if I type in pwd, itsays home/dave
[18:59] <dluzius> I can't help but feel like I am almost there, but something is hanging up on me
[19:03] <cjwatson> try 'sudo service gdm restart' and see if that starts a proper desktop
[19:09] <dluzius> ok, brb...
[19:10] <genec> why does that sound like the live CD environment?  is there a "new" option to install the liveCD to a local disk?
[19:13] <dluzius> cjwatson.. I entered your suggestion, and it asked me for a password, like it does when using sudo, and then said restart: unknown instance
[19:32] <genec> cjwatson: I think there's something else missing in GRUB like not enough stages outside of btrfs in the boot block; bug 757446
[20:57] <cjwatson> genec: "not enough stages outside of btrfs in the boot block"?  I don't understand
[20:57] <cjwatson> dluzius: what does 'dpkg-query -W gdm' say?
[21:23] <CIA-7> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4681 trunk/ (bin/ubiquity debian/changelog):
[21:23] <CIA-7> ubiquity: Don't check for debconf database locks when ubiquity is itself running
[21:23] <CIA-7> ubiquity: inside a debconf frontend (LP: #758858).
[21:29] <CIA-7> ubiquity: cjwatson * r4682 trunk/debian/changelog: releasing version 2.6.4
[21:56] <dluzius> cjwatson-- it says gdm      2.30.5-Oubuntu4
[21:57] <cjwatson> um, OK, I'm fairly confused then, because it sounds like it should work
[21:57] <cjwatson> I doubt it's an installer problem as such ...
[21:57] <dluzius> I think so too, but it doesn't
[21:58] <dluzius> what else could it be, and how do I correct it
[21:59] <dluzius> should I try an older version of Ubuntu, like 10.04
[22:01] <cjwatson> I can't really say, I'm not much of a technical support type
[22:01] <cjwatson> I was just checking for the obvious problem of the desktop not actually being installed :-)
[22:02] <dluzius> during the install process it proceeds and then even says installation was successful
[22:18] <genec> cjwatson: terminology from grub-legacy.  -legacy had stage 1, 1.5 and 2 which (iirc) would be crammed into the MBR/reserved sectors or stage1 would be in the boot sector.
[22:20] <genec> iirc, btrfs being a CoW-style FS means files may move what blocks they reside on.  so, stage1 can't have a static LBA pointer to core.img.
[22:46] <cjwatson> genec: right, the standard problem with installing to a partition which we've always warned people about
[22:46] <cjwatson> (warned since GRUB 2, anyway)
[22:46] <cjwatson> genec: I agree that using the 64KB boot loader area is the right answer hre
[22:46] <cjwatson> *here
[22:46] <cjwatson> genec: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Images has a translation guide to help you use GRUB 2 terminology
[22:47] <genec> cjwatson: it's what it's designed for: drop a basic boot loader that can at least read the underlying file system
[22:47] <cjwatson> yep, we've been intending to use it for a while but nobody had got round to it, that's all
[22:47] <genec> cjwatson: I found another that talking about core.img
[22:47] <cjwatson> core.img is what would get put into that 64KB area
[22:48] <cjwatson> when /boot/grub is on btrfs, it will be built to contain btrfs.mod
[22:49] <genec> Syslinux-5 is going to end up just dropping ldlinux.sys into the boot block (still haven't found proper btrfs docs to know the real term) and have other stuff outside in the file system.
[22:49] <cjwatson> did you try phcoder's patch, or do you need help integrating that into the Ubuntu package?
[22:49] <cjwatson> it looked right to me
[22:50] <cjwatson> I think we have local patches nearby though, so it may need conflict resolution
[22:50] <genec> I've got to rebuild it or get a x64 rescue disk
[22:50] <genec> cjwatson: patch fuzzed the current bazaar
[22:51] <genec> bbl
[23:17] <CIA-7> console-setup: cjwatson * r405 ubuntu/debian/ (changelog console-setup-udeb.base-installer):
[23:17] <CIA-7> console-setup: Don't copy keyboard-configuration questions to /target in OEM mode.
[23:17] <CIA-7> console-setup: oem-config will ask them later, and copying these confuses it
[23:17] <CIA-7> console-setup: (LP: #741304).