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razGon_hello!!06:00
YoBoYbonjour07:15
dholbachgood morning08:43
bassemczajkowski, did you recieve my email?09:10
czajkowskibassem: yes will look into it today was busy at work yesterday. 09:13
czajkowskibassem: can take some time but will get it resolved for you09:13
bassemczajkowski, thank you09:13
bassemczajkowski, are you also responsible for rt@ubuntu.com ?09:13
czajkowskibassem: nope I'm one of the folks on the loco council 09:14
bassembassem, ok thank you again :-)09:14
czajkowskinp09:15
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hackjackhi09:59
hackjackhi09:59
hackjackhi09:59
hackjackany1 dere09:59
Ronniehijack09:59
hackjackhackjack09:59
hackjackjoonie09:59
Ronnie;)09:59
hackjackwhere r u 4m09:59
Ronniehackjack: can you speak in full words, this is hard to understand10:00
hackjackwhere are you from10:01
hackjacki mean which country10:01
RonnieThe Netherlands, you?10:01
hackjackindia10:01
hackjackso even you are linux fan]10:01
Ronniemore like an ubuntu fan, never liked another distribution10:02
hackjackdo you use windows10:03
Ronnieis there in india an 'ubuntu bomb' exploded? last months a lot of indian come in here10:03
Ronnienot very much, sometime to play games, or update some external hardware10:03
hackjacki dont know 10:03
hackjackwaht is ubuntu bomb10:04
hackjacki am a noob linux user10:05
hackjackhello dude are you here10:06
Ronniewith 'Ubuntu Bomb' i mean, there in an exponential grown in users, who started with ubuntu10:07
hackjackya 10:07
hackjackit has 2 after all it is a good os10:07
hackjackwaht do you do10:11
Ronniehackjack: working on a lot of ubuntu projects, mainly web development.10:17
Ronniehackjack: for how long do you use ubuntu?10:17
hackjackkool man10:17
hackjackjust a month10:17
hackjacknice to meet you10:17
hackjackwhat is your age10:18
Ronnieim using ubuntu since 2006, first mainly dualboot with windows, but now almost single ubuntu, some small windows running in vm's10:20
hackjackso you work for ubuntu10:20
Ronnieas volunteer, not on payroll10:20
Ronniethere are a lot of volunteers, its pretty fun around here10:21
hackjackenen i would lke to work for ubuntu but no branch in india10:22
hackjackwaht sort of wotk you do for ubuntu10:22
Ronnieweb developer, for example: http://loco.ubuntu.com/10:29
Ronniecurrently creating some logo's for our loco team: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/Artwork/Projecten/Logos/Ubuntu-NL#Ronnie10:30
Ronniebit of a combination between developing and designing10:30
hackjackkool man you are a dude10:31
hackjackwhat is your age10:31
Ronniedo you want to become a dude too, there are some free developer places ;)10:32
Ronnieim not old, still a student ;)10:32
hackjackwhere10:32
hackjackme too studing computer engineering10:33
Ronnieif you learn django (and we can help you with parts of that), youre very welcome to join the loco.ubuntu.com developers10:33
hackjacki m right now learning java10:33
Ronniemhall119: yeey :D https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/django-openid-auth/fixes-642132/+merge/5419310:34
Ronniehmm great10:34
Ronniei only know python and javascipt10:35
hackjacki m studing applets10:35
Ronniejava applets make my browser very slow :(10:35
hackjackya dey take time 2 load10:36
hackjackeven when i m learning it it takes time 2 load10:37
Ronniewhats the adventage of java applets?10:37
hackjackwhat is django10:37
hackjackapplet is just a feature of java as other10:38
hackjackbunt now for web phop is just boming10:38
hackjacki mean php10:38
hackjackyou are on facebook10:39
RawChidPlease avoid Java Applets10:40
RawChidFor your own sake10:40
hackjack? 10:40
hackjacki didnt get you10:40
RawChidJava Applets are outdated imho10:41
Ronniei agree that java isn't supposed to be on the web10:41
RawChidTHe idea was nice in the '9010:41
hackjackya i agree php is latest techniloght10:42
RawChidNot on the client. It's excellent for server software ;)10:42
Ronnieeven php is not the latest technology (altought its getting better than before)10:43
hackjackyou both are on facebook10:43
Ronnieruby on rails and django ( both RAD (rapid application develoment) is the future IMHO10:44
RawChidYou can't compare Java Applets with php10:44
hackjackwhich 1 is better10:44
Ronniejava can be compared better with flash10:44
Ronniehackjack: its not that one is better than the other10:45
Ronniechoose the right tool for the right job10:45
Ronniebut i prefer django, because its python based10:45
RawChidThe right tool for the right job10:45
hackjacki heard this name first tine10:46
RawChidJava Applet was intended for RIA's, php is server side scripting10:46
hackjackRIA10:47
RonnieDjango in an framework that let you create dynamic HTML+CSS+Javascript webpages. Django itself is running on the server en created the HTML files on the fly when the user requests it.10:47
RonnieRIA = Rich Internet Application10:47
RawChidLike Flash (jQuery?)10:48
RawChidJavaFX 10:48
hackjackguys i want to communicate u people late so can you tell how10:48
RawChidI don't understand that sentence10:48
hackjackhow can we communicate with you late10:49
RawChidlater on? I'm sticking around in this chan, you may ping me10:50
Ronnieyou can find us here and in several other channels10:50
hackjackare you there on facebok10:51
RawChidIf you want to contact me, I'm here10:51
hackjackare you people chating form browser or shell10:52
RonnieGUI (pidgin)10:54
Ronniei can see your on the freenode webpage10:54
hackjackis it in ubuntu linux10:55
Ronnieyes10:55
hackjackkool10:56
Ronnieim thinking to create an ubuntu webchat app based on IRC (and Jabber)-> http://ubuntuone.com/p/frF/10:56
Ronnieoops, wrong link10:56
Ronniehttp://ubuntuone.com/p/jqX/10:56
hackjackkool10:57
hackjackis it gui app10:57
hackjackfrom where did you lear dat django10:58
Ronniehttp://ubuntuone.com/p/mDI/10:58
Ronniethere are very good documentation and tutorials for django10:58
Ronniehttp://www.djangobook.com/10:58
Ronniehttp://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/10:58
hackjackis it freeware10:58
Ronnieits open source !10:59
Ronniea lot better than freeware10:59
hackjackyou should hav learn php11:01
Ronniei know some PHP basics11:01
Ronniebut i like python more11:01
hackjackeven i know basic input output11:02
Ronniei dont like the OOP of PHP11:02
hackjackoop is gud 11:03
hackjackany gud command of shell11:04
hackjack i m learning shell programming right now11:04
Ronniethere are a lot of commands, i only know the basics11:05
hackjacklike11:05
hackjackdont say ls -l11:06
Ronniehackjack: did you already have a look at this page: http://www.ubuntu-in.info/wiki11:08
hackjackdudde you rock11:09
Ronniehackjack: if you hang around a bit longer here, you will see that all Ubuntu enthusiasts rock.11:10
hackjackya man sure i will love to11:11
RonnieUbuntu is not only an Operating System, its also an 'idea'11:11
Ronnieand maybe some day other ppl say to you that 'you rock'. Just start helping people who need it11:12
hackjacki need it more11:12
Ronniestart developing for ubuntu as volunteer and such11:12
hackjackhow 11:13
hackjackis dere any office in india of ubuntu11:13
Ronnieno, you dont need an office, you can do all the volunteer work from your on PC. The only thing you need in an internet conenction11:14
Ronniefor things in your loco, see the bottom on this page how to help:  http://www.ubuntu-in.info/wiki11:14
Ronniebut you can also choose a project on Launchpad https://launchpad.net/ and add some patches11:15
Ronniefor example: https://launchpad.net/loco-directory11:15
RawChidThere is #ubuntu-in for Indian people11:22
hackjacki am a noob in this things right now 11:23
RawChidEveryone has to start somewhere11:24
hackjackya 11:24
hackjackrawchild : where are you from11:25
RawChidThe Netherlands11:26
hackjacksame11:26
RawChid?11:27
RawChidI thought you were Indian...11:27
hackjackya i m indian11:27
RawChidI've been to Hyderabad :P11:27
hackjackkool place11:28
hackjacksacred also11:29
hackjackwhat do you do raw child11:29
RawChidI was there on a Study Trip11:32
hackjackyou know shell programming11:37
hackjackthis wb browser thing is bit tedious11:41
RawChidI see11:44
Ronniehackjack: whats wrong with the web chat thing?11:44
hackjackits irrtating11:45
Ronniewhat irritates you with the webchat?11:46
hackjacki dont hav a gui like you i am using windows11:46
Ronniewhat are the adventages of a GUI in your opinion ?11:46
RawChidmIRC is an Windows IRC app11:47
RawChidBut you can guess that I would advise to install Ubuntu :P11:47
Ronniepidgin can be used on windows too11:47
hackjackya i m going to11:47
hackjackthere is sumting wrong with my pc so i m using windows right now11:48
hackjackto to acess other drives using shell11:48
hackjackcan i hav a virtual shell on windows11:48
Ronniehackjack: what do you mean by shell ?11:49
hackjackwhat you dont know shell11:51
hackjackthat terminal11:52
hackjackterminal window11:52
RawChidDOS prompt?11:53
RawChidShell can mean different things, that's why he asked11:53
hackjackyes dos is for windows and shell is for linux11:54
Ronniethere is no shell for windows (that i know, except than DOS, but thats not comparable to the power of the Linux Shell)11:55
Ronnieyou can login to an other ubuntu computer shell, within windows11:55
hackjackya so is there any virtual shell that runs on windows11:56
RonnieThat question can be better asked in #ubuntu this channel is mainly for loco organization and loco directory development11:56
Ronniejust type "/join #ubuntu" without quotes to join #ubuntu channel11:57
hackjackya i got access12:01
hackjackno one is ready to reply me12:05
hackjack is there any virtual terminal shell that can work on windows12:11
hackjackcan any1 help12:25
hackjackme12:25
mhall119Ronnie: yay!13:29
mhall119now to figure out how to get it into LD13:30
Ronnieyea, thats not very easy too13:30
mhall119it can be13:31
Ronniewill the fix be added into natty?13:31
mhall119probably not at this point, and LD's server won't be upgraded to natty anyway, they stay with LTS releases13:31
mhall119so we can either setup a PPA, and sweet-talk to the sysadmins into adding our PPA to the server13:32
mhall119or, we add it using bzr_apps, which might take some added work depending on their branch layout13:32
RonniePPA should be nice, be i have no exp with creating ppa's13:33
mhall119I do, it's not hard at all, launchpad does all the work13:34
Ronniewith a PPA other apps which use the code will be helped too13:35
mhall119yup13:35
nhandlerhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds could use some updating. It looks like someone started to replace intances of Maverick with Natty (incomplete), but the procedure has changed a bit (since there is no more shipit).14:12
nhandlerAnd jono is listed as the contact at the bottom. In the past, Maria has been the one we have been sending people to with problems/questions. She should probably be listed (assuming she is still involved and handling them)14:14
Pendulumnhandler: I believe Maria stopped doing shipit 6 months ago. I can't remember who the new person is14:52
Pendulum(I could be wrong, though)14:53
mhall119Ronnie: I got confirmation that the django-openid-auth fixes will get built and placed in an internal PPA, which should make it easier to convince the sysadmins to enable it for LD15:39
mhall119I'll keep a watch on it's progress15:39
Ronniemhall119: great :D15:39
mhall119cjohnston: dholbach: ^^15:39
dholbachmhall119, awesome15:55
Daniel0108hi mainerror16:10
mainerrorhello :)16:11
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