[06:00] <razGon_> hello!!
[07:15] <YoBoY> bonjour
[08:43] <dholbach> good morning
[09:10] <bassem> czajkowski, did you recieve my email?
[09:13] <czajkowski> bassem: yes will look into it today was busy at work yesterday. 
[09:13] <czajkowski> bassem: can take some time but will get it resolved for you
[09:13] <bassem> czajkowski, thank you
[09:13] <bassem> czajkowski, are you also responsible for rt@ubuntu.com ?
[09:14] <czajkowski> bassem: nope I'm one of the folks on the loco council 
[09:14] <bassem> bassem, ok thank you again :-)
[09:15] <czajkowski> np
[09:59] <hackjack> hi
[09:59] <hackjack> hi
[09:59] <hackjack> hi
[09:59] <hackjack> any1 dere
[09:59] <Ronnie> hijack
[09:59] <hackjack> hackjack
[09:59] <hackjack> joonie
[09:59] <Ronnie> ;)
[09:59] <hackjack> where r u 4m
[10:00] <Ronnie> hackjack: can you speak in full words, this is hard to understand
[10:01] <hackjack> where are you from
[10:01] <hackjack> i mean which country
[10:01] <Ronnie> The Netherlands, you?
[10:01] <hackjack> india
[10:01] <hackjack> so even you are linux fan]
[10:02] <Ronnie> more like an ubuntu fan, never liked another distribution
[10:03] <hackjack> do you use windows
[10:03] <Ronnie> is there in india an 'ubuntu bomb' exploded? last months a lot of indian come in here
[10:03] <Ronnie> not very much, sometime to play games, or update some external hardware
[10:03] <hackjack> i dont know 
[10:04] <hackjack> waht is ubuntu bomb
[10:05] <hackjack> i am a noob linux user
[10:06] <hackjack> hello dude are you here
[10:07] <Ronnie> with 'Ubuntu Bomb' i mean, there in an exponential grown in users, who started with ubuntu
[10:07] <hackjack> ya 
[10:07] <hackjack> it has 2 after all it is a good os
[10:11] <hackjack> waht do you do
[10:17] <Ronnie> hackjack: working on a lot of ubuntu projects, mainly web development.
[10:17] <Ronnie> hackjack: for how long do you use ubuntu?
[10:17] <hackjack> kool man
[10:17] <hackjack> just a month
[10:17] <hackjack> nice to meet you
[10:18] <hackjack> what is your age
[10:20] <Ronnie> im using ubuntu since 2006, first mainly dualboot with windows, but now almost single ubuntu, some small windows running in vm's
[10:20] <hackjack> so you work for ubuntu
[10:20] <Ronnie> as volunteer, not on payroll
[10:21] <Ronnie> there are a lot of volunteers, its pretty fun around here
[10:22] <hackjack> enen i would lke to work for ubuntu but no branch in india
[10:22] <hackjack> waht sort of wotk you do for ubuntu
[10:29] <Ronnie> web developer, for example: http://loco.ubuntu.com/
[10:30] <Ronnie> currently creating some logo's for our loco team: http://wiki.ubuntu-nl.org/Artwork/Projecten/Logos/Ubuntu-NL#Ronnie
[10:30] <Ronnie> bit of a combination between developing and designing
[10:31] <hackjack> kool man you are a dude
[10:31] <hackjack> what is your age
[10:32] <Ronnie> do you want to become a dude too, there are some free developer places ;)
[10:32] <Ronnie> im not old, still a student ;)
[10:32] <hackjack> where
[10:33] <hackjack> me too studing computer engineering
[10:33] <Ronnie> if you learn django (and we can help you with parts of that), youre very welcome to join the loco.ubuntu.com developers
[10:33] <hackjack> i m right now learning java
[10:34] <Ronnie> mhall119: yeey :D https://code.launchpad.net/~mhall119/django-openid-auth/fixes-642132/+merge/54193
[10:34] <Ronnie> hmm great
[10:35] <Ronnie> i only know python and javascipt
[10:35] <hackjack> i m studing applets
[10:35] <Ronnie> java applets make my browser very slow :(
[10:36] <hackjack> ya dey take time 2 load
[10:37] <hackjack> even when i m learning it it takes time 2 load
[10:37] <Ronnie> whats the adventage of java applets?
[10:37] <hackjack> what is django
[10:38] <hackjack> applet is just a feature of java as other
[10:38] <hackjack> bunt now for web phop is just boming
[10:38] <hackjack> i mean php
[10:39] <hackjack> you are on facebook
[10:40] <RawChid> Please avoid Java Applets
[10:40] <RawChid> For your own sake
[10:40] <hackjack> ? 
[10:40] <hackjack> i didnt get you
[10:41] <RawChid> Java Applets are outdated imho
[10:41] <Ronnie> i agree that java isn't supposed to be on the web
[10:41] <RawChid> THe idea was nice in the '90
[10:42] <hackjack> ya i agree php is latest techniloght
[10:42] <RawChid> Not on the client. It's excellent for server software ;)
[10:43] <Ronnie> even php is not the latest technology (altought its getting better than before)
[10:43] <hackjack> you both are on facebook
[10:44] <Ronnie> ruby on rails and django ( both RAD (rapid application develoment) is the future IMHO
[10:44] <RawChid> You can't compare Java Applets with php
[10:44] <hackjack> which 1 is better
[10:44] <Ronnie> java can be compared better with flash
[10:45] <Ronnie> hackjack: its not that one is better than the other
[10:45] <Ronnie> choose the right tool for the right job
[10:45] <Ronnie> but i prefer django, because its python based
[10:45] <RawChid> The right tool for the right job
[10:46] <hackjack> i heard this name first tine
[10:46] <RawChid> Java Applet was intended for RIA's, php is server side scripting
[10:47] <hackjack> RIA
[10:47] <Ronnie> Django in an framework that let you create dynamic HTML+CSS+Javascript webpages. Django itself is running on the server en created the HTML files on the fly when the user requests it.
[10:47] <Ronnie> RIA = Rich Internet Application
[10:48] <RawChid> Like Flash (jQuery?)
[10:48] <RawChid> JavaFX 
[10:48] <hackjack> guys i want to communicate u people late so can you tell how
[10:48] <RawChid> I don't understand that sentence
[10:49] <hackjack> how can we communicate with you late
[10:50] <RawChid> later on? I'm sticking around in this chan, you may ping me
[10:50] <Ronnie> you can find us here and in several other channels
[10:51] <hackjack> are you there on facebok
[10:51] <RawChid> If you want to contact me, I'm here
[10:52] <hackjack> are you people chating form browser or shell
[10:54] <Ronnie> GUI (pidgin)
[10:54] <Ronnie> i can see your on the freenode webpage
[10:55] <hackjack> is it in ubuntu linux
[10:55] <Ronnie> yes
[10:56] <hackjack> kool
[10:56] <Ronnie> im thinking to create an ubuntu webchat app based on IRC (and Jabber)-> http://ubuntuone.com/p/frF/
[10:56] <Ronnie> oops, wrong link
[10:56] <Ronnie> http://ubuntuone.com/p/jqX/
[10:57] <hackjack> kool
[10:57] <hackjack> is it gui app
[10:58] <hackjack> from where did you lear dat django
[10:58] <Ronnie> http://ubuntuone.com/p/mDI/
[10:58] <Ronnie> there are very good documentation and tutorials for django
[10:58] <Ronnie> http://www.djangobook.com/
[10:58] <Ronnie> http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/1.3/
[10:58] <hackjack> is it freeware
[10:59] <Ronnie> its open source !
[10:59] <Ronnie> a lot better than freeware
[11:01] <hackjack> you should hav learn php
[11:01] <Ronnie> i know some PHP basics
[11:01] <Ronnie> but i like python more
[11:02] <hackjack> even i know basic input output
[11:02] <Ronnie> i dont like the OOP of PHP
[11:03] <hackjack> oop is gud 
[11:04] <hackjack> any gud command of shell
[11:04] <hackjack>  i m learning shell programming right now
[11:05] <Ronnie> there are a lot of commands, i only know the basics
[11:05] <hackjack> like
[11:06] <hackjack> dont say ls -l
[11:08] <Ronnie> hackjack: did you already have a look at this page: http://www.ubuntu-in.info/wiki
[11:09] <hackjack> dudde you rock
[11:10] <Ronnie> hackjack: if you hang around a bit longer here, you will see that all Ubuntu enthusiasts rock.
[11:11] <hackjack> ya man sure i will love to
[11:11] <Ronnie> Ubuntu is not only an Operating System, its also an 'idea'
[11:12] <Ronnie> and maybe some day other ppl say to you that 'you rock'. Just start helping people who need it
[11:12] <hackjack> i need it more
[11:12] <Ronnie> start developing for ubuntu as volunteer and such
[11:13] <hackjack> how 
[11:13] <hackjack> is dere any office in india of ubuntu
[11:14] <Ronnie> no, you dont need an office, you can do all the volunteer work from your on PC. The only thing you need in an internet conenction
[11:14] <Ronnie> for things in your loco, see the bottom on this page how to help:  http://www.ubuntu-in.info/wiki
[11:15] <Ronnie> but you can also choose a project on Launchpad https://launchpad.net/ and add some patches
[11:15] <Ronnie> for example: https://launchpad.net/loco-directory
[11:22] <RawChid> There is #ubuntu-in for Indian people
[11:23] <hackjack> i am a noob in this things right now 
[11:24] <RawChid> Everyone has to start somewhere
[11:24] <hackjack> ya 
[11:25] <hackjack> rawchild : where are you from
[11:26] <RawChid> The Netherlands
[11:26] <hackjack> same
[11:27] <RawChid> ?
[11:27] <RawChid> I thought you were Indian...
[11:27] <hackjack> ya i m indian
[11:27] <RawChid> I've been to Hyderabad :P
[11:28] <hackjack> kool place
[11:29] <hackjack> sacred also
[11:29] <hackjack> what do you do raw child
[11:32] <RawChid> I was there on a Study Trip
[11:37] <hackjack> you know shell programming
[11:41] <hackjack> this wb browser thing is bit tedious
[11:44] <RawChid> I see
[11:44] <Ronnie> hackjack: whats wrong with the web chat thing?
[11:45] <hackjack> its irrtating
[11:46] <Ronnie> what irritates you with the webchat?
[11:46] <hackjack> i dont hav a gui like you i am using windows
[11:46] <Ronnie> what are the adventages of a GUI in your opinion ?
[11:47] <RawChid> mIRC is an Windows IRC app
[11:47] <RawChid> But you can guess that I would advise to install Ubuntu :P
[11:47] <Ronnie> pidgin can be used on windows too
[11:47] <hackjack> ya i m going to
[11:48] <hackjack> there is sumting wrong with my pc so i m using windows right now
[11:48] <hackjack> to to acess other drives using shell
[11:48] <hackjack> can i hav a virtual shell on windows
[11:49] <Ronnie> hackjack: what do you mean by shell ?
[11:51] <hackjack> what you dont know shell
[11:52] <hackjack> that terminal
[11:52] <hackjack> terminal window
[11:53] <RawChid> DOS prompt?
[11:53] <RawChid> Shell can mean different things, that's why he asked
[11:54] <hackjack> yes dos is for windows and shell is for linux
[11:55] <Ronnie> there is no shell for windows (that i know, except than DOS, but thats not comparable to the power of the Linux Shell)
[11:55] <Ronnie> you can login to an other ubuntu computer shell, within windows
[11:56] <hackjack> ya so is there any virtual shell that runs on windows
[11:56] <Ronnie> That question can be better asked in #ubuntu this channel is mainly for loco organization and loco directory development
[11:57] <Ronnie> just type "/join #ubuntu" without quotes to join #ubuntu channel
[12:01] <hackjack> ya i got access
[12:05] <hackjack> no one is ready to reply me
[12:11] <hackjack>  is there any virtual terminal shell that can work on windows
[12:25] <hackjack> can any1 help
[12:25] <hackjack> me
[13:29] <mhall119> Ronnie: yay!
[13:30] <mhall119> now to figure out how to get it into LD
[13:30] <Ronnie> yea, thats not very easy too
[13:31] <mhall119> it can be
[13:31] <Ronnie> will the fix be added into natty?
[13:31] <mhall119> probably not at this point, and LD's server won't be upgraded to natty anyway, they stay with LTS releases
[13:32] <mhall119> so we can either setup a PPA, and sweet-talk to the sysadmins into adding our PPA to the server
[13:32] <mhall119> or, we add it using bzr_apps, which might take some added work depending on their branch layout
[13:33] <Ronnie> PPA should be nice, be i have no exp with creating ppa's
[13:34] <mhall119> I do, it's not hard at all, launchpad does all the work
[13:35] <Ronnie> with a PPA other apps which use the code will be helped too
[13:35] <mhall119> yup
[14:12] <nhandler> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoGettingCds could use some updating. It looks like someone started to replace intances of Maverick with Natty (incomplete), but the procedure has changed a bit (since there is no more shipit).
[14:14] <nhandler> And jono is listed as the contact at the bottom. In the past, Maria has been the one we have been sending people to with problems/questions. She should probably be listed (assuming she is still involved and handling them)
[14:52] <Pendulum> nhandler: I believe Maria stopped doing shipit 6 months ago. I can't remember who the new person is
[14:53] <Pendulum> (I could be wrong, though)
[15:39] <mhall119> Ronnie: I got confirmation that the django-openid-auth fixes will get built and placed in an internal PPA, which should make it easier to convince the sysadmins to enable it for LD
[15:39] <mhall119> I'll keep a watch on it's progress
[15:39] <Ronnie> mhall119: great :D
[15:39] <mhall119> cjohnston: dholbach: ^^
[15:55] <dholbach> mhall119, awesome
[16:10] <Daniel0108> hi mainerror
[16:11] <mainerror> hello :)