[08:09] <artnay> hi andrejz
[08:09] <andrejz> hello artnay, how are you?
[08:10] <artnay> fine but a bit confused
[08:10] <artnay> just by looking at indicator-session
[08:10] <artnay> andrejz: how are "system settings" in indicator-session in your language? if you open the window, do you have different translation in window frame AND indicator-appmenu than in indicator-session?
[08:11] <andrejz> Yes they are differnet
[08:11] <andrejz> that's because the name of the window is Control center (name of the program is gnome control center)
[08:11] <artnay> true
[08:12] <andrejz> And control center and system settings are different words
[08:12] <artnay> but is that by design or would you consider it worth of bug report?
[08:12] <artnay> andrejz: also true
[08:12] <artnay> but it leads to inconsistency
[08:12] <artnay> it should be the same term
[08:12] <andrejz> I think it should be filled towards indicator-session
[08:13] <artnay> andrejz: so you would name it to "Control Center", right?
[08:14] <artnay> what about indicator-appmenu? it says System Settings as well
[08:14] <artnay> indicator have a different name than the window
[08:14] <artnay> indicatorS
[08:14] <andrejz> Well you know, maybe it makes sense. You want click "System settings" to edit system settings in a program called "Control center"
[08:15] <artnay> doesn't make sense to men
[08:15] <artnay> me
[08:15] <artnay> it should be same name in indicator-appmenu and window frame
[08:15] <artnay> otherwise it's possible to think indicator-appmenu controls are different from active window
[08:17] <andrejz> you have that right, i thing it's best to fill the bug against the indicators and hope for the best
[08:17] <artnay> I'll do it later
[08:41] <artnay> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/758508 here you go
[08:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 758508 in ubuntu-translations "[Unity] Inconsistent wording between window frame and indicators with "System settings" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:02] <andrejz> @artnay: will subscribe to it, thanks
[09:02] <artnay> dpm: could you take a look at #758508
[09:03] <artnay> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/758508
[09:03] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 758508 in ubuntu-translations "[Unity] Inconsistent wording between window frame and indicators with "System settings" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[09:03] <artnay> I believe it affects other applications, too.
[09:35] <dpm> artnay, thanks for the heads up. This is something that affects translations, but it must be fixed in unity-2d itself. Would you mind:
[09:35] <dpm> a) Using the "Also affects project" and "Also affects distribution" links to add bug tasks for the unity-2d upstream project and Ubuntu package
[09:36] <dpm> b) Add a screenshot showing where the problem appears?
[09:36] <dpm> Thanks!
[09:36] <artnay> dpm: does it affect unity (3d)? haven't been able to test that
[09:37] <dpm> artnay, I think it does, as far as I can see it on my system
[09:38] <andrejz> it does, artnay
[09:38] <artnay> should it affect unity as well, then?
[09:38] <dpm> I'm marking it as "low" for translations, as it's just some inconsistency. Medium or High I reserve for unclear or untranslatabe strings
[09:38] <dpm> artnay, I think, rather than unity itself, it affects the indicator that shows the control center
[09:39] <artnay> dpm: no indicator shows it, it's visible in window frame
[09:39] <artnay> indicators use "system settings"
[09:40] <dpm> artnay, I thought that was the inconsistency you were mentioning (indicator = system settings, dialog = control center) - was that not the bug?
[09:40] <artnay> both indicators
[09:40] <dpm> so you can choose where to report it against: either the indicator, or gnome-control-center
[09:41] <artnay> indicator-appmenu is "System Settings", indicator-session is "System Settings" and window frame (compiz?) is "Control Center"
[09:42] <artnay> I'm marking it against gnome-control-center since both strings exist in that package
[09:43] <artnay> now it's against unity-2d and gnome-control-center, feel free to correct
[09:44] <dpm> I'll let the desktop guys to handle that, as they are more knowledgeable
[09:44] <artnay> actually it probably should be against those indicators
[09:44] <artnay> I believe I saw same kind of inconsistency with some other apps
[09:44] <artnay> could have been banshee
[22:26] <david5345> Hi! Should the short form timestamp given by date +%Z be translated ?