[08:09] hi andrejz [08:09] hello artnay, how are you? [08:10] fine but a bit confused [08:10] just by looking at indicator-session [08:10] andrejz: how are "system settings" in indicator-session in your language? if you open the window, do you have different translation in window frame AND indicator-appmenu than in indicator-session? [08:11] Yes they are differnet [08:11] that's because the name of the window is Control center (name of the program is gnome control center) [08:11] true [08:12] And control center and system settings are different words [08:12] but is that by design or would you consider it worth of bug report? [08:12] andrejz: also true [08:12] but it leads to inconsistency [08:12] it should be the same term [08:12] I think it should be filled towards indicator-session [08:13] andrejz: so you would name it to "Control Center", right? [08:14] what about indicator-appmenu? it says System Settings as well [08:14] indicator have a different name than the window [08:14] indicatorS [08:14] Well you know, maybe it makes sense. You want click "System settings" to edit system settings in a program called "Control center" [08:15] doesn't make sense to men [08:15] me [08:15] it should be same name in indicator-appmenu and window frame [08:15] otherwise it's possible to think indicator-appmenu controls are different from active window [08:17] you have that right, i thing it's best to fill the bug against the indicators and hope for the best [08:17] I'll do it later [08:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/758508 here you go [08:41] Launchpad bug 758508 in ubuntu-translations "[Unity] Inconsistent wording between window frame and indicators with "System settings" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [09:02] @artnay: will subscribe to it, thanks [09:02] dpm: could you take a look at #758508 [09:03] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/758508 [09:03] Launchpad bug 758508 in ubuntu-translations "[Unity] Inconsistent wording between window frame and indicators with "System settings" (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] [09:03] I believe it affects other applications, too. [09:35] artnay, thanks for the heads up. This is something that affects translations, but it must be fixed in unity-2d itself. Would you mind: [09:35] a) Using the "Also affects project" and "Also affects distribution" links to add bug tasks for the unity-2d upstream project and Ubuntu package [09:36] b) Add a screenshot showing where the problem appears? [09:36] Thanks! [09:36] dpm: does it affect unity (3d)? haven't been able to test that [09:37] artnay, I think it does, as far as I can see it on my system [09:38] it does, artnay [09:38] should it affect unity as well, then? [09:38] I'm marking it as "low" for translations, as it's just some inconsistency. Medium or High I reserve for unclear or untranslatabe strings [09:38] artnay, I think, rather than unity itself, it affects the indicator that shows the control center [09:39] dpm: no indicator shows it, it's visible in window frame [09:39] indicators use "system settings" [09:40] artnay, I thought that was the inconsistency you were mentioning (indicator = system settings, dialog = control center) - was that not the bug? [09:40] both indicators [09:40] so you can choose where to report it against: either the indicator, or gnome-control-center [09:41] indicator-appmenu is "System Settings", indicator-session is "System Settings" and window frame (compiz?) is "Control Center" [09:42] I'm marking it against gnome-control-center since both strings exist in that package [09:43] now it's against unity-2d and gnome-control-center, feel free to correct [09:44] I'll let the desktop guys to handle that, as they are more knowledgeable [09:44] actually it probably should be against those indicators [09:44] I believe I saw same kind of inconsistency with some other apps [09:44] could have been banshee === henninge_ is now known as henninge-lunch === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [22:26] Hi! Should the short form timestamp given by date +%Z be translated ?