[00:00] add and copy paste them? [00:00] copy and paste what? [00:01] they're tickboxes [00:01] the urls [00:01] you just tick "main, restricted, universe, multiverse" [00:01] they arent there? [00:02] what aren't where? [00:03] !screenshot [00:03] Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [00:03] http://cybernetnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ubuntu-software-sources-proprietary-drivers.jpg [00:03] ^^ one of those might be handy [00:03] ooh, brown [00:03] i remember that [00:04] and the buttons are on the wrong side :) [00:04] http://lh6.ggpht.com/_1QSDkzYY2vc/TLHkB_oNhPI/AAAAAAAACH4/MQ8IYpyZio0/software-sources.png ? [00:04] http://imagebin.org/147694 [00:04] ^^ mine [00:05] theres 2 canonical ones thats arent ticked and ppa launchpad 7 machines (main) which is [00:05] KINGOFSWORDS: in which tab? [00:05] KINGOFSWORDS, you're not on the "ubuntu software" tab. [00:05] you're in the "Other software" tab? [00:10] Does ekiga work through empathy? I'm getting network errors when I try to connect :-( [00:12] craiganicol, isn't ekiga a SIP client? [00:13] Yeah. [00:13] Got an ekiga.net account [00:13] and you're trying to add a SIP account to empathy? [00:13] directhex, that's right [00:13] didnt know empathy did SIP [00:13] is telepathy-sofiasip installed? [00:13] popey, 2 different plugins! [00:14] golly [00:14] I've got a SIP account option [00:14] So I'm using that [00:14] Dunno if it's sofia or not [00:15] craiganicol, try installing telepathy-sofiasip - i think the other option is provided by telepathy-haze (pidgin compatibility) [00:16] Well, apt-get is installing sofia, so I guess I wasn't using that... [00:17] OK, let's try restarting empathy... [00:19] Hmm... still just the one SIP option, and still network errors :-( [00:21] officially it works :/ [00:22] oh. it doesn't work with NAT, apparently. [00:23] try setting stun.ekiga.net as a STUN server in advanced settings [00:24] Ah, might be an ekiga problem. I've installed the official client and I'm getting a registration failed error with the same credentials. [00:24] Sounds like it isn't an empathy problem. [00:26] Although I'm slightly concerned that a password change on the Ekiga website sends out the password in plain text. [00:26] Any other SIP providers out there? [00:27] ... i use the company server, so no idea [00:27] i use sipgate.co.uk [00:28] nn all, eyes hurting with fake light so gonna read a real book o/ [00:33] cheers popey, I'll check them out [00:33] Thanks for your help all. Night night [00:34] Just as a test, I tried with sip2sip and that logged in instantly [06:58] \o [07:16] morning everyone [07:16] mornin [07:30] how are you doing today [07:39] not even 8am and I'm reaching my crazy quota all ready :( [07:39] "you russia, no? er, no, just english sorry. *click*". 4 times already. [07:47] lol :) [07:47] on irc or what , [07:47] morning slackers [07:47] hey popey ! [07:47] good of you to join us [07:47] Afternoon popey what kept you ;-) [07:47] we've been waiting for you for about an hour [07:48] All set for Friday evening then? [07:48] having "the mornign off on irc" are we ? [07:49] oh yus! [07:49] although given my volvo gave up the ghost and is costing me 450 quid to fix I may not be drinking/eating as much as I might! [07:50] Ahh - we are all in car pain then? [07:50] oh you too? [07:50] popey "gave up the ghost" is kind of a dutch expression i thought [07:50] My V70 needs a service shortly (I suspect that it might cost more than the car is worth) [07:50] heh [07:50] how old is your v70? [07:51] mine's a 51 [07:51] knightwise: it is? [07:51] It's "V" reg. 2.4Turbo [07:51] oooo [07:51] retro [07:51] i love mine [07:51] 'gave up the ghost' is biblical, so will show up in a lot of western languages [07:51] bit beaten up now though :) [07:51] Quick but drinks petrol and my wife uses to take out her frustrations. [07:51] the intercooler went, which is ~450 quid to fix [07:51] haha [07:51] I have the diesel [07:52] Bumpers knackered, wings scratched, and we are recently missing one gatepost [07:52] :D [07:53] I was looking at lease deals last night. One can get a reasonable car for less than £200/m. If this service is much over £1500 I will dump the car. [07:53] who would have thought removing 1 little package could do so much harm to ubuntu [07:54] The dashboard reminds me somewhat of Blackpool at Christmas :-D [07:56] hello all [07:57] i uninstalled dbus because it was not working and it uninstalled half of the ubuntu packages with it [08:04] TheOpenSourcerer: i am considering pcp [08:05] Isn't that "Angel Dust" popey? [08:05] and renewing every 2 years or so, so never paying the balloon [08:05] TheOpenSourcerer: on advice of council, i decline to answer [08:05] ging: surely it told you it was going to remove everything? [08:05] ging: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop^ [08:06] to get it back to how it should be [08:06] the caret is important [08:07] huh? [08:07] :D [08:08] huh? [08:08] popey: just seen a few lines appear wondered if it was you answering questions now or they have just been resent! [08:09] 07:57:22 < ging> i uninstalled dbus because it was not working and it uninstalled half of the ubuntu packages with it [08:09] answering that [08:09] ah [08:09] * MooDoo poddles off for coffee [08:09] * popey makes poached eggs for brekkie [08:09] popey: shush [seeing as i'm at work already] [08:10] :) [08:18] Morning [08:24] morning daubers [08:27] * daubers heads off to work with a mission to chat up some suppliers to borrow some kit... [08:28] * knightwise is fighting with multiboot [08:34] * MartijnVdS multiboots knightwise ;) [08:34] multisystem [08:49] blimey, 60 tickets for oggcamp reserved already [08:49] oggcamp? [08:50] didn't know that was announced.....doh! [08:50] ooooo there is the webpage [08:50] http://oggcamp.org/ [08:50] yeah just found it [08:51] http://ThisURLIsUsefulIfYouWantToKnowWhereAndWhenOggCampWillBeThisYear.com [08:51] might be a preferable URL :D [08:51] Gah. Why wont thunderbird reply sensibly? [08:52] is there a way to make Thunderbird do reply-to-list by default (i.e. on ctrl-r)? I can't find one if there is [08:52] popey: looks awesome :D [08:52] isnt it ctrl+l? [08:54] ctrl+l is reply to list, yeah, but I want ctrl+r to Do The Right Thing :) [08:55] heh [08:55] ctrl+r doesn't use the reply-to header? [08:56] some people don't set that [08:56] and then complain when you don't respect the setting they never asked for [08:56] * TheOpenSourcerer can walk to OggCamp this year :-) [08:57] heh [08:57] And will be checking out the venue this Friday evening funnily enough. [08:58] * popey tickles aquarius with http://ComeToOggCamp11On13thAnd14thOfAugust2011AtFarnhamMaltingsSurrey.com [08:59] popey: long domain names-r-us? [08:59] longest domain names :) [08:59] popey: put an URL lengthener on there (like hugeurl) [08:59] haha [08:59] funny you should mention that... [09:00] http://ShorteningURLsIsSoLastYearClickMeToFindOutWhereAndWhenOggCampIs.com [09:00] I approve of this :) [09:01] :) [09:02] * MooDoo 's wife might be too pregnant for me to attend [09:04] bring her along [09:04] and name it "Ogg" [09:04] AlanBell: lol 8.5months, i don't think so :D [09:05] * MooDoo ponders Ogg Mellors..... [09:05] That sounds great! [09:05] I have a cousin Owen who is known as Ogg [09:05] there is an Og in the FLOSS community [09:05] works on Foresight Linux iirc [09:05] og Marciel ;) [09:05] thassim [09:10] popey: yeah it told me it was going to remove everything, i just thought it was exagerating [09:11] i have an interesting quest [09:12] i love the whole full circle magazine and would love to download their latest issue and email it to my tablet automatically [09:12] should not be that hard to do .. should it ? [09:15] It should indeed not be hard to do, knightwise. I imagine it's quite easy, but I suggest reading the wget manpage funny and being certain you won't download a truckload of other data first. [09:15] true dwatkins [09:15] Also, you may want to let them know you're going to do this, as if there's a really big amount of data it will cost them for hosting, knightwise. [09:16] Perhaps there's a tar of each edition available from them already. [09:16] are you referring to the PDFs? [09:16] yep [09:17] oh my [09:17] oggcamp is on my birthday [09:17] \o/ [09:17] there will be cake [09:18] speaking of cake [09:19] http://imgur.com/oLJeu [09:19] Sophie made some cake :) [09:19] woot, popey [09:21] http://imgur.com/bAoSH [09:21] Sam with a bucket of milk in bed :) [09:21] Hmm must be school holidays - Wife is screaming at the kids already :-) [09:21] I must go and take my chillies to the Greenhouse. [09:24] wow [09:24] reading the interview of a Nokia marketing division person who's leaving the company [09:25] Nokia has had a 30% claim on the toilet paper market of UK at one point [09:31] *sigh* [09:43] I like the Eventbrite tickets, but it does seem a bit of a waste of paper [09:44] Myrtti: why the enhanced breathing action? [09:46] I can't decide between having a nap or trying to do something marginally useful [09:47] you mean naps aren't useful? [09:48] Myrtti: nap, you'll get more done afterwards :) [09:50] http://shop.canonical.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=natty&op=Search \o/ [09:50] Looks ok [09:50] Bet it gets hot in the sun though [09:52] Hello. [10:04] morning all [10:04] davmor2: morning me ole mucker [10:04] czajkowski: up and about I see does that mean you made a miraculous recovery? [10:04] MooDoo: Me owld china [10:05] I wish I knew if I can spend my birthday in UK or not [10:06] Myrtti: why would you not be able too? [10:06] davmor2: mum [10:07] davmor2: Myrtti's birthday is an intangable random number [10:07] * davmor2 reaches over and flicks on absolute 80's let get this partee started [10:08] \o/ [10:08] oh well, plenty of time left before August to figure out [10:08] davmor2: no signed off for another week bulging disc [10:08] Myrtti: so have you birthday there and then celebrate over here [10:08] sciatica as well [10:08] davmor2: oggcamp 11 :-/ [10:09] "can you please reschedule oggcamp, it's on me birthday and I want to spend it with Mum" [10:09] no? [10:09] hey guys [10:09] I knew you would spoil the fun [10:09] anyone got experience with the rxtx driver? [10:09] czajkowski: you know what you need don't you, one of those bed things that holds you upside down and release all the tension on your spine :) [10:09] * popey changes oggcamp date just for Myrtti [10:09] or java in general? http://dpaste.com/531176/ [10:10] popey: who knows, perhaps it's not an... issue in August anymore... [10:10] Myrtti: :( [10:10] :S [10:10] I'll get me coat [10:11] * czajkowski hugs Myrtti [10:11] Morning [10:11] Myrtti: what you need is some of ntfsclone, that's it you need a Myrtticlone then you can be at both [10:16] clone Myrtti = fail sudo clone Myrtti = success :) [10:19] so who's going to oggcamp :D [10:19] tons of notice! [10:20] czajkowski: o\ [10:20] czajkowski: o/ even [10:21] czajkowski: i'm not i'm afraid [10:21] MooDoo: we are destined never to meet [10:21] czajkowski: I have no idea at this early point. [10:22] czajkowski: oh we will, but the other will be 8.5 months pregnant, and i don't want to leave her for two days. [10:22] hi [10:22] MooDoo: true [10:22] czajkowski: i'll get you that pint soon enough [10:22] issyl0: o\ == facepalm? or "Y U NO"-guy? [10:22] i have searched /proc/acpi/battery/ [10:22] czajkowski: he doesn't want to meet you you might provide him with all those beat downs you promised him ;) [10:22] davmor2: one can hope :D [10:22] davmor2: hey he owes me beer for all the rugby slagging! [10:22] is there a way to know if its a 9 cell or a 6 Cell or a 4 Cell battery [10:22] * MooDoo hangs his head in shame [10:23] MartijnVdS: A typo. [10:23] without visiting the Manufacturers website [10:23] issyl0: Nah, it was on purpose. People don't admit typos :) [10:23] MartijnVdS: Am I not a person? ;-) [10:24] issyl0: OK.. _most_ people [10:24] issyl0: :) [10:27] kaushal: you can try the battery properties no promises as it depends on the manufacturer as to exactly what info you get [10:28] kaushal: click on the battery icon and click on properties [10:28] MartijnVdS: Thaaaat's better. [10:30] * MartijnVdS writes some HTML [10:30] *shudder* [10:32] morning all [10:32] morning diplo [10:33] morning diplo [10:35] davmor2: thanks [10:35] but doesnot give that info [10:41] kaushal: website or google then but at least you have the model info now :) [11:03] Does anyone have a natty machine near them? [11:03] smittix: yes thanks [11:04] davmor2: Could you check something for me? [11:04] smittix: go on [11:04] In system settings does the bluetooth icon show properly? [11:05] nope [11:05] Ok, thanks for that [11:05] it's showing the no icon symbol [11:05] Thought so. [11:12] smittix: I'm taking it your system is set up on en_GB correct? [11:12] Yeah [11:12] thanks [11:13] Same problem with the Universal Access Preference Icon on the logon screen [11:15] popey: re screencasting, I just use quicktime & vbox. easy way to maintain a pristine environment & easy switch distos [11:15] not an ideal solution, but short-term cheaper than buying capture hardware [11:17] What's the best way to submit a bug for missing icons? [11:18] czajkowski: o/ [11:19] smittix: it looks like it might be that the icon string is translatable so report against the application for now [11:19] davmor2: Ok [11:28] How long does it normally take for a bug report to be updated? [11:29] smittix: depends how slow LP is that day [11:30] Ahh ok I submitted this on the 7th [11:30] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/753405 [11:30] Ubuntu bug 753405 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Changing Cursor theme doesn't update changes" [Undecided,New] [11:55] hi guys need help with an installation, anyone free? [11:56] safiyyah: just ask your question :) [11:58] trying to install libre office. I added the PPA but when I clicked on it, it had unresolved dependancies, so I uninstalled openoffice, refreshed and despite the ppa being there apt-get does not recognise libreoffice, checked on synaptic and well, it doesn't find anthing either [11:58] has that even had any changes from oo? [11:58] yep [12:00] it will be the default for natty as well [12:00] but anyway, can anyone help me understand what has happened? [12:00] did you do apt-get update [12:02] yep [12:03] out of ideas then :) [12:03] wait for one of the pro's [12:03] damn! LOL [12:03] okay i will try a reboot [12:07] popey, help me!!!!!!! [12:07] AlanBell ?? [12:09] hmm? [12:10] I have not tried the libre office ppa [12:10] I have tried libre office in Natty though, works fine [12:10] you are already running natty? [12:10] in a VM [12:10] not got round to putting it on hardware yet [12:11] might upgrade the kids computer soon though [12:11] any ideas on the broken ppa? I googled and all solutions posted do not work [12:11] so which one are you running? [12:11] afternoon :) [12:11] lol [12:11] got any error messages? [12:11] yes [12:11] safiyyah: which ppa you using exactly? [12:12] http://paste.ubuntu.com/593074/ [12:12] i reran the commands so you guys can see the output there [12:14] the exact ppa on synaptic is http://ppa.launchpad.net/libreoffice/ppa/ubuntu I am on Lucid [12:14] what's the output of apt-cache search libreoffice ? [12:16] safiyyah@safiyyah-desktop:~$ sudo apt-cache search libreoffice [12:16] ttf-opensymbol - OpenSymbol TrueType font [12:16] safiyyah@safiyyah-desktop:~$ [12:16] just the ttf [12:16] Is there a list of Ubuntu compatible TV Cards anywhere? [12:16] Or any recommended brands? [12:17] I suspect MythTV related things would be a good place to check [12:17] safiyyah: hmm. That's odd. There should be more than that [12:17] kvarley: check the mythtv project [12:17] it wont be ubuntu specific support, just stuff the kernel supports [12:17] bigcalm: Thanks [12:17] BigRedS Thanks also [12:17] For once, not a miss-tabbing ;) [12:17] kvarley: or http://www.linuxtv.org/ [12:18] danfish, thats why I can't understand what's happened [12:18] safiyyah: when you did sudo apt-get update, any errors? [12:18] nope [12:18] http://paste.ubuntu.com/593074/ [12:19] kvarley: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsMultimedia try this [12:19] davmor2: Thanks, just what I'm looking for I think [12:20] safiyyah: oh yeah..my bad [12:22] danfish would a reboot resolve this? I am in the middle of a windows installation on VB OSE so I will wait for it to complete first [12:23] safiyyah: maybe...worth a try I suppose. I've got a lucid machine - I'll see if it's reproducible [12:23] okay [12:24] will call you when I reboot [12:24] ok [12:32] windows taking forever [12:32] is anyone running microsoft office on playonlinux? [12:33] safiyyah: LibreOffice is a perfect substitute. However, you need to use winetricks for office to work I think [12:33] safiyyah: on this lucid install, doing sudo apt-get dist-upgrade after apt-get update, the sudo apt-get install libreoffice worked OK. [12:35] okay trying that now [12:36] danfisherm same issue for me [12:37] danfish erm same issue for me [12:43] safiyyah: sorry - out of ideas :( [12:46] http://paste.ubuntu.com/593074/ [12:46] should be sudo apt-get install libreoffice-gnome [12:46] not sudo apt-get install libreoffice [12:49] maybe [12:51] http://www.ubuntuvibes.com/2011/04/one-click-bash-installation-script-for.html xmessage? really? [12:51] popey still got the same output [12:52] davmor2: that bug about bluetooth icon [12:52] i filed it weeks ago iirc === AlanBell changed the topic of #ubuntu-uk to: Welcome to #ubuntu-uk! http://ubuntu-uk.org | This channel is publicly archived http://irclogs.ubuntu.com | Mailing List http://tinyurl.com/uukml | Support Guidelines http://tinyurl.com/uuksupport | Meeting 14th April 21:00 BST #ubuntu-uk-meeting http://tinyurl.com/uukmeet | Quiz: 16th April 21:00 | oggcamp.org \o/ [12:53] bug 742398 [12:53] Launchpad bug 742398 in gnome-control-center (Ubuntu) "Missing icon for bluetooth applet" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/742398 [12:54] popey: possibly let seb128 know I just pointed smittix in the general direction on filing a bug after speaking with seb128 [12:54] i have commented on that bug again [12:56] shauno: what the hell is wrong with that guy, can't resist dragging the mouse around the screen highlighting nothing at all whilst talking [12:56] in the first 30 seconds [12:57] why is the video for how to use the "1 click installer" 7 minutes long? [12:57] :) [12:57] that's longer than it takes to install minecraft by hand [12:57] too long; didn't watch [13:11] ali1234, it's 8 minutes long actually [13:12] I've always thought the point of a video tutorial was to just show the steps, without talking (making it universally accessible regardless of the language) [13:13] i hate videos with no narration [13:14] it makes me think "What are you showing me? Why are you showing me this?" [13:14] if you sat next to someone showing you something, they wouldn't be mute, they'd explain it [13:15] Yeah I know....I'm looking at it differently, because a nonsense voice booming in the background is annoying for me. So probably the best thing is to include subtitles that can be translated I guess, but no-one does this :) [13:15] i did :) [13:16] http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2369893842637434537# [13:17] popey - that's awesome :) But I'm more amazed...thought Google Video was all merged into YouTube actually! [13:18] I uploaded those years ago, before the merger [13:18] yeah...quite some time...Ubuntu 6.06 :) [13:20] bah I have totally forgot the name of the TS Client I use. [13:20] And I use it on a daily basis [13:20] :/ [13:21] Remmina ? [13:21] Bingo! [13:21] Ta [13:21] heh [13:22] I went blank there for a minute. [13:38] morning all! [13:39] morning [13:39] o/ [13:39] anyone else use empathy to connect to a Google Apps chat account? Anyone else notice the small age it takes to login? Anyone found a way to deal with this? [13:40] aside from throwing the laptop at a wall. I'm keeping that as Plan B. [13:40] http://mail.google.com/mail :) [13:40] aaargh, don't start with that!! :) I don't get notifications of chats and my work colleagues think I'm rude/report my non-working to my boss [13:41] Empathy 2.32.1 starts instantly for me [13:41] lol, reported for not working when you are not on chat :D [13:41] really? I have a "normal" gmail account, and that logs in immediately... but my work Google Apps account takes F.O.R.E.V.E.R. [13:42] dogmatic69: yeah... international company... many timezones... tight management [13:42] use pidgin instead [13:42] ali1234: tried, that doesn't even login!! :) [13:42] pidgin ftw \o/ [13:43] oh :/ [13:43] hamitron: yeah... that's pretty much what I thought... in that order [13:43] so amazon made a kindle with adverts [13:43] it's a whole £15 cheaper [13:43] under 100 quid? [13:43] I'd pay 15 GBP just to never have adverts on a kindle. [13:44] seems like a bad deal to me [13:44] just added my work gmail thing and it was instant too [13:44] Can pidgin do video chat? [13:44] yes [13:44] ali1234: not sure if they are releasing it over here yet [13:44] it's adverts on the home screen when in standby mode [13:45] dogmatic69: that's strange... did you add it to empathy? [13:45]