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nhainesI'm not sure whether or not I approve of this dark scrollbar that's exclusive to GNOME Terminal.00:09
iheartubuntu1knock knock?02:56
crashsystemshello world02:56
iheartubuntu1crashsystems did u ever figure out dreamweaver02:57
crashsystemsIt has been many, many years since I've bothered to touch dreamweaver. I think you've got the wrong person.02:58
iheartubuntu1ohh maybe :|02:58
* iheartubuntu1 hits head on desk02:58
iheartubuntu1here is my almost final flyer for Ubuntu Hour coming up in Pasadena http://ubuntuone.com/p/mBE/02:58
iheartubuntu1I want to start posting these tomorrow02:59
iheartubuntu1does anyone have any final recommendations/02:59
iheartubuntu1still not sure on the "open" line02:59
crashsystemshttps://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2011/04/eff-san-francisco-entertainment-commission-don-t02:59
iheartubuntu1nhaines suggested "OPEN - easy to access your data" or something to that effect03:00
iheartubuntu1EFF was at scale9x03:00
iheartubuntu1they are also helping a fellow urban home blogger out down here in LA03:01
iheartubuntu1another blogger trademarked the term "urban homestead" and this other blogger had already written a book "urban homesteading"03:01
iheartubuntu1now EFF is stepping in to help the authors of the book03:01
iheartubuntu1the blgoger family that trademarked urban homestead has sent out cease and desist letters to those who have used the urban homesteading words03:02
iheartubuntu1----03:03
crashsystems-_-03:03
crashsystemsice cream truck... I've not heard one of those in years03:03
iheartubuntu1regarding my flyer, im also thinking about making it more generic, but then it will be harder to find the particular event03:03
iheartubuntu1something more generic like directing people to go to the Ubuntu Hour main site, and then they would have to search for a local event themselves03:04
akkWe still have people pushing ice cream carts in this neighborhood (as well as a truck that drives around).03:05
akkI'd never seen the hand-carts anywhere else I've lived.03:05
iheartubuntu1i like listening to Dr. Katherine Albrecht. She wrote a book called Spychips. Interesting read. Talking about how everything is going RFID03:06
iheartubuntu14 years ago she was talking about NYC taxi drivers didnt want RFID badges, now its coming03:07
iheartubuntu1Its the first step towards everyone having some form of RFID that can be scanned for paying for food, for getting a paycheck, a welfare check, etc. Next you'll need an RFID drivers licence to get in your own car03:08
akkI'm kind of surprised drivers licenses haven't gone RFID yet. I keep expecting it to happen (and dreading it).03:09
iheartubuntu1or iris scan03:10
iheartubuntu1someplace i saw the military is now scanning the irises of all killed people in the various wars going on to create a database03:11
iheartubuntu1another war and  its going to look like we are the aggressors03:12
akkA database of dead people's irises? What good is that?03:13
iheartubuntu1the only thing i can think of is to confirm some of the particular taliban or al-CIAda rebels are dead for sure based on a database already in place?03:14
iheartubuntu1they would be matching up irises like they do fingerprints03:15
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iheartubuntudo we have any chess players here?19:17
kevin7060i've dabbled19:17
kevin7060oh ay, iheartubuntu #ubuntu-classroom has a class on python multimedia if you're interested19:18
iheartubuntuis kevin7060 aka seidos19:19
iheartubuntuno time :(19:19
iheartubuntui want to pick up some chess strategies before i head into the weekend and play against some new friends. the guy thinks im an expert :) and i havent played chess for years :)19:20
akkI've played some, but forgotten most of what I knew.19:20
iheartubuntuim quickly trying to find some good opening moves and gain some knowledge on controlling the middle of the game19:21
akkwas never expert level19:21
iheartubuntui was never any good :) backgammon is my game19:21
akkBooks -- "How to open a chess game" and "logical chess, move by move" are great.19:21
=== kevin7060 is now known as seidos
seidosi just played against glchess on easy19:23
iheartubuntuid never heard of the "En Passant" move19:23
iheartubuntucastling, yeah... en passant no19:23
seidoswhat are you playing for?  fun? bragging rights?  $$$?19:24
iheartubuntufun19:24
akkYou're gonna want to know all the rules if you want to keep up your "expert" reputation. :)19:24
iheartubuntubut i hyped myself u pa bit :)19:24
iheartubuntunow this guy thinks he has a real challenge ahead of him19:24
seidosen passant, never used it, never had it used on me19:24
iheartubuntuevery time he emails me he "awaits our glorious chess battle"19:24
* erichammond has a UCSF rating (not spectacular).19:24
iheartubuntui guess im better at bluffing :)19:25
iheartubuntuwhat is UCSF rating?19:25
seidosoh, interesting19:25
erichammondUS Chess Federation.19:25
akkUS Chess Federation19:25
iheartubuntuohh wow!19:25
seidosthat would be USCF, not UCSF19:25
akkExpert means 2000-2200 IIRC.19:25
erichammondMy son played chess competitively when he was 8-9.   Did well at nationals: Played to a draw against the national champion.19:25
erichammondyah, uscf19:26
* akk had a provisional 1385 rating once, long long ago19:26
seidosthough, i heard UCSF has a medicine track, and Berkeley does not19:26
seidosi have never been rated, and i'm pretty sure i can only stalemate gnuchess19:26
iheartubuntuso how do i gain some skills before the weekend?19:27
seidosplay glchess on easy19:27
akkbook and playing19:27
iheartubuntuim on GNU chess server right now19:27
iheartubuntui dont think there is an easy option19:27
erichammondiheartubuntu: Play lots of short games on http://www.freechess.org19:27
seidosoh you're on the server?19:27
seidosspeed chess19:27
erichammondand watch how other people beat you.19:27
erichammondread introductory books19:28
akkYou aren't going to convince anyone you're an expert player by just playing on your own -- gotta study some openings.19:28
seidosthat's what is so great about playing against the computer :)19:28
erichammondhire a tutor19:28
akkYou'll at least need to know the Ruy Lopez and Sicilian.19:28
seidosanalyze the computers move19:28
seidosyou can even play against yourself19:28
seidosapostrophe fail19:29
iheartubuntuif heard of the sicilian and also the english opening19:29
* seidos whips himself with a wet noodle19:29
seidoslet me try to find you on the server iheartubuntu19:29
seidosi don't have glchess installed presently19:29
iheartubuntuim on the ggzgamingzone built into glchess19:29
seidosyeah, i've played that a few times with a friend19:30
seidoshis internet persona is presently dead however19:30
iheartubuntui think u can type in any name19:30
iheartubuntumaybe im bluffing and waiting to trump seidos right now ;)19:31
seidosthat wouldn't surprise me, really19:31
iheartubuntuHAHA19:31
iheartubuntuactually. im no good really19:31
seidosif you trump me, i'll start calling you "the donald"19:31
iheartubuntui need to learn19:31
seidosme too, i've lost way too many times19:32
iheartubuntudad taught me long ago, but one of my brothers who lived in greece picked up backgammon there and bought me a board and ive been hooked on backgammon since i was a kid19:32
seidosmy cousin taught me i think19:32
iheartubuntuseidos and are in in a game in glchess19:37
nhainespleia2: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/presentations/finding-help-ubuntu19:45
nhainesDarkwingDuck: http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale9x/presentations/your-guide-kubuntu19:49
seidoscool a video!20:10
seidosuncool, the stark lighting20:10
seidoswell, it's still nice to hear the voice of fellow ubuntu knight while i play chess to stalemate20:15
iheartubuntuhas it timed out?20:16
iheartubuntui got a chess crash error20:16
seidosi think you'll have to undo a move again20:17
iheartubuntuohh well20:17
iheartubuntui would have lost20:17
seidosno, it would have been a stalemate i think20:18
seidoswell, we can now metaphorically rebuild, i hope some of the pawns or rooks are female20:18
seidosotherwise we're going to be extinct20:18
iheartubunturebuild?20:18
iheartubuntugood game anyways20:18
iheartubuntuexciting!20:19
seidosi'm extrapolating a story behind the crowns20:19
seidosdid you see that pawn's face come apart?20:19
seidos:|20:19
seidoswho knew chess was so violent20:19
iheartubuntuit was going good there for a while, then got ugly20:20
iheartubuntui dont know why castling didnt work for me20:20
seidosi think you moved your king?20:20
seidosor my bishop was blocking it?20:20
iheartubuntuohhh20:21
seidosit looks like we are evenly matched20:21
seidosthat was cool, i like playing with you better than the computer20:21
seidosthe computer doesn't talk to me :(20:21
* seidos laughs20:21
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iheartubuntuwho was that guy talking about gnibbles20:40
iheartubuntudistracting20:40
saytwoi dunno, just some dude i think20:40
saytwoi'm pretty sure that's never happeend to me before iheartubuntu20:41
saytwooh, hey, i should have my bot join20:41
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kevin4896class of '9620:41
kevin4896buddyjr: hello20:42
buddyjrProcessing...................20:42
kevin4896:P20:42
kevin4896oh yeah, i pasted this http://swarm.conferencebywire.com/web/guest/my-conferences-page/?parameterAutoLoginLogin=scaleuserla@yahoo.com&parameterAutoLoginPassword=scaleuser&data=cU5IN3BBQWlhNTEweXNZWXJiczg5UmdiN2dBUWV5QnEwaWllTVdQTmVwdz0=&sesid=486 in #slackware-offtopic and they said there is personal data in it20:43
iheartubuntuam i seeing an email and password within the link?21:06
kdub_slow news day on us-ca22:20
kevin4896iheartubuntu: i guess, but it's not mine so i'm not worried about it22:26
kevin4896i did feel like i did something wrong for a second though22:26
kevin4896dang, getting old22:27
kevin4896wrist is hurting22:28
kevin4896better find something else to do besides typing22:28
kevin4896i should find some good Hawaiian music to listen to22:30
kevin4896which makes me wonder...what is "Californian music" these days?22:31
kdub_kevin4896: i switched to dvorak, finds it helps with the wrist strain22:32
iheartubuntui have hawaiian music22:39
iheartubuntuhttp://yp.shoutcast.com/sbin/tunein-station.pls?id=127279022:39
kevin4896kdub_: it's a notebook, so switching is a bit harder.  oddly my left hand is fine23:10
kevin4896i should probably observe the hand while it moves over the keys23:11
kevin4896hmmm maybe i use the home, end, and del keys too much23:12
kevin4896iheartubuntu: that isn't bad, but i was looking for another style23:29
kevin4896i'm reluctant to say it but this stuff sound like it's been incepted with WASP like theme23:31
kevin4896hmmm, looks like i hit backspace too much, surprise surprise23:36
kevin4896anyway23:36

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