| wrst | chris4585: well since unity is based on gnome 3 and unity on gnome 2 is that the reason? | 00:00 |
|---|---|---|
| chris4585 | wrst, that might be it... | 00:00 |
| wrst | i suspect its not an intentional snub | 00:00 |
| chris4585 | I kind of wish we were using gnome 3.x but I bet that wont be too long | 00:01 |
| wrst | chris4585: i'm loving gnome 3 | 00:02 |
| chris4585 | well thats good I kind of thought you would | 00:02 |
| chris4585 | like I said before I can't wait to try it | 00:02 |
| wrst | its great, they i think may not have hit a home run bue certainly an RBI double and for it to be so many major changes what else could you ask for | 00:06 |
| chris4585 | yeah | 00:06 |
| wrst | and it will improve from here | 00:07 |
| vychune | o/ | 01:40 |
| cyberanger | hope everyone is enjoying this lovely weather :-/ | 03:23 |
| cyberanger | whoops, bad botscript, worse coder | 03:34 |
| cyberanger | sorry, didn't mean to CTCP the entire channel (well, this channel that is) | 03:34 |
| brandonnxd | hey chat room! | 09:29 |
| Xpistos | Hey dudes | 14:16 |
| Xpistos | wrst | 14:16 |
| wrst | howdy Xpistos | 14:16 |
| Xpistos | here is an interesting perdicatment | 14:16 |
| Xpistos | I have a joomla install on a box here at work | 14:16 |
| Xpistos | if I go http://IP | 14:16 |
| Xpistos | I get nothing | 14:16 |
| Xpistos | if I go http://IP/cityofbaxter.com it shows me the site | 14:17 |
| Xpistos | is there away to fix this, or can I add an alias on the box somewhere to point to the correct location? | 14:17 |
| chibihogoshino | type a normal ip address in | 15:58 |
| chibihogoshino | oh .. i forgot the :-P | 15:59 |
| brandonnxd | whatsup folks | 16:24 |
| brandonnxd | weeegggGG | 16:27 |
| brandonnxd | well hey im setting up my DNS Server, and i can't figure out how to register my nameservers, and id also like for someone to help tell me if i have done ever thing right, am trying to get my website on the web | 16:40 |
| brandonnxd | nay help? | 16:42 |
| brandonnxd | any** | 16:42 |
| Xpistos | anyone know where I can change the default webpage in apache? | 17:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | Xpistos: what do you mean change the default page? | 17:22 |
| pace_t_zulu | Xpistos: location on your file system? or the contents of the page? | 17:22 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: ping | 18:14 |
| brandonnxd | */nick heckifiknow* | 18:19 |
| === brandonnxd is now known as heckifiknow | ||
| heckifiknow | really? | 18:20 |
| Xpistos | lol you tried. That is the important thin | 18:23 |
| Xpistos | g | 18:24 |
| heckifiknow | haha i did it | 18:25 |
| heckifiknow | but not really sure what i did | 18:25 |
| heckifiknow | oh | 18:25 |
| heckifiknow | hrmm. im gonna give it some though | 18:25 |
| heckifiknow | t | 18:25 |
| heckifiknow | ill figure it out, coz i may end up having the same problem | 18:25 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: sorry, unusual day | 18:30 |
| heckifiknow | what port does my website need to be on to be viewed on the web? | 18:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | heckifiknow: 80 | 18:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | heckifiknow: 80 for http .... 443 for https | 18:38 |
| heckifiknow | hrmm, well what about my firewall not letting computers through? | 18:38 |
| heckifiknow | said something about port 73 | 18:38 |
| pace_t_zulu | heckifiknow: so you're using windows server 2008? | 18:42 |
| heckifiknow | yea | 18:42 |
| pace_t_zulu | heckifiknow: you have the machine physically near you... or is it hosted somewhere else | 18:42 |
| pace_t_zulu | ? | 18:42 |
| heckifiknow | i have two roles, web server,(IIS7) and DNS Server, | 18:42 |
| heckifiknow | im on it right now | 18:42 |
| heckifiknow | and my godaddy account domain is set to point to my ip address | 18:43 |
| heckifiknow | i tryed setting up nameservers but i didn't do something exactly right | 18:43 |
| pace_t_zulu | i wouldn't worry about DNS until you can get the web server working with an ip address | 18:43 |
| pace_t_zulu | heckifiknow: i'm going to pm you again to get more details that you might not want logged in here | 18:43 |
| heckifiknow | otay, thats kinda what i was thinking, | 18:43 |
| heckifiknow | k | 18:44 |
| === Xpistos is now known as Xpistos-Lunch | ||
| heckifiknow | wow | 19:11 |
| heckifiknow | sure is quit in here | 19:11 |
| heckifiknow | hey i think i got it figured out | 19:23 |
| heckifiknow | can ne one tell me if this link works? | 19:23 |
| heckifiknow | This site has multiple bindings | 19:23 |
| heckifiknow | http://www.thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com | 19:24 |
| brandonnxd | ok can someone help me get my ip address set so that remote computers can view my webpage | 20:16 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: you need to forward port 80 to the machine that the webserver is running on | 20:26 |
| brandonnxd | ok, im trying to open up the wizard now for my netgear modem | 20:28 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: what brand & model modem and routers do you have? | 20:32 |
| brandonnxd | hey! | 20:34 |
| brandonnxd | i need to know something | 20:34 |
| wrst | hello everyone | 20:37 |
| brandonnxd | hey | 20:37 |
| brandonnxd | wrst | 20:37 |
| wrst | helo brandonnxd | 20:37 |
| brandonnxd | can help me with port fowarding? | 20:37 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: really just depends on the router you are using, should be simple enough and some routers have an option to enable DMZ | 20:38 |
| brandonnxd | ok i have service name i chose http | 20:39 |
| brandonnxd | for setting up my website | 20:39 |
| brandonnxd | and server ip address | 20:39 |
| brandonnxd | is that my private ip address or public ip address | 20:39 |
| brandonnxd | 192. or 75. | 20:39 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: you need to set your router to forward port 80 to the internal IP address of your webserver | 20:40 |
| brandonnxd | so thats whatever ip address i choose? | 20:41 |
| brandonnxd | or my private ip address | 20:41 |
| brandonnxd | or my DNS server address. | 20:41 |
| wrst | no what is the IP adddress of your server, the local IP address | 20:41 |
| brandonnxd | k | 20:41 |
| brandonnxd | sorry im just overwhelming my self, but i think im almost donw | 20:41 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: for instance if yoru IP is 192.168.1.100 you will forward port 80 to that | 20:42 |
| brandonnxd1 | ok :D | 20:47 |
| wrst | pace_t_zulu: does he know enough to do what he's doing? i thought that was a pretty simple process? | 20:53 |
| wrst | brandonnxd1: give me the model number of the router and let me check and see what i can find out might be able to help you out a little more? | 20:54 |
| brandonnxd1 | i think im done | 20:55 |
| brandonnxd1 | i set up three | 20:55 |
| brandonnxd1 | ports | 20:55 |
| brandonnxd1 | one for smtp one for http and one for dns | 20:55 |
| wrst | ok well if you don't get it brandonnxd1 let me know if i don't know I know people that know :) | 20:55 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst: i suggested getting a hosting provider | 20:56 |
| cyberanger | brandonnxd1: you need to really check that your static | 20:56 |
| cyberanger | or things will break down | 20:56 |
| wrst | yeah pace_t_zulu i would agree that hosting is cheap | 20:56 |
| brandonnxd1 | ok so with those threee ports | 20:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: he's not there yet | 20:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: he still needs to setup port forwarding | 20:56 |
| brandonnxd1 | i should be able to send emails with php and with set up nameservers right | 20:56 |
| brandonnxd1 | and also let people see my page | 20:56 |
| brandonnxd1 | k | 20:56 |
| pace_t_zulu | you can send emails with php without any of this setup | 20:57 |
| brandonnxd1 | so now i need to change my ip address and fix the port fowarding to match right? | 20:57 |
| brandonnxd1 | my comp said that smtp isn't set up on my comp | 20:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: you need to configure your network to forward port 80 traffic to the ip address of the web server | 20:57 |
| brandonnxd1 | ok, but i gotta chang my ip address so u guys can see my webpage right? | 20:58 |
| brandonnxd1 | i can't get the ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway to match up, | 20:58 |
| brandonnxd1 | im looking that up now | 20:58 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: when it is correctly configured you should see your webpage at http://75.64.5.237/ | 20:59 |
| pace_t_zulu | which i do see now | 20:59 |
| pace_t_zulu | good job brandonnxd1 | 20:59 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: it is working now... | 21:01 |
| wrst | brandonnxd1: i got it also | 21:01 |
| brandonnxd1 | it is! :D | 21:01 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: you should set thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com to point to 75.64.5.237 rather than 192.168.1.2 | 21:01 |
| brandonnxd1 | ok :D | 21:02 |
| brandonnxd1 | thanks u guys | 21:02 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: if you do that then you should be able to browse to http://thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com and get the same page as http://75.64.5.237 | 21:02 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: but pay attention to what cyberanger said about your ip address | 21:02 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: if your ip address is not static - it could change at anytime and then thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com will point to someone else's cable modem | 21:03 |
| wrst | yeah brandonnxd1 pace_t_zulu has suggested the best, and probably cheapest solution to get a commercial web host | 21:04 |
| brandonnxd1 | its static | 21:04 |
| brandonnxd1 | and | 21:04 |
| brandonnxd1 | now my other computer isn't online | 21:05 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: fyi your website loads very slowly where i am ... getting a hosting provider would help with that too | 21:05 |
| cyberanger | brandonnxd1: it looks like your 75. address is not | 21:05 |
| brandonnxd1 | it isn't | 21:06 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: fyi comcast cable bandwidth is asymetric... meaning you cannot upload as fast as you can download... which is what a web server does | 21:06 |
| brandonnxd1 | i set it in my cable modem box to be static | 21:06 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: it is not that simple | 21:06 |
| brandonnxd1 | ok, am learning alot | 21:06 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: usually you have to contact comcast about that | 21:06 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: and it is likely to be more expensive | 21:07 |
| wrst | and it will cost you extra probably have to go to a bus. class or something | 21:07 |
| brandonnxd1 | ok so when i set my port forwards i set my ip to be static instead of dynamic | 21:07 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: i was in you shoes before.... hosting provider is going to be the path of least resistance | 21:07 |
| brandonnxd1 | well, this is my website, i think i may just have someone put up a copy while i work with this one? | 21:08 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: i wouldn't recommend serving public websites from your home | 21:08 |
| wrst | brandonnxd1: you open yourself up for attacks | 21:09 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: yea... you should setup a test server at home... use that for testing | 21:09 |
| brandonnxd1 | so now my websites up, im on server 2008 | 21:09 |
| brandonnxd1 | does that not make me very secure if i keep the updates? | 21:10 |
| wrst | brandonnxd1: you have a common port opened up | 21:11 |
| brandonnxd1 | hrmm, can i use a different port | 21:12 |
| brandonnxd1 | grr | 21:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: no | 21:12 |
| brandonnxd1 | how do i connect a computer wirelessly to the modem i just configured? | 21:12 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: not unless you want your address to be http://thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com:8080 | 21:12 |
| brandonnxd1 | can i use bindings to change that | 21:13 |
| brandonnxd1 | and hide the 8080 | 21:13 |
| brandonnxd1 | and then would that help my security | 21:13 |
| pace_t_zulu | if you want to hide it you have to have port 80 open somewhere | 21:13 |
| brandonnxd1 | ok well for now | 21:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: hosting provider is *HIGHLY* recommended at this point | 21:14 |
| brandonnxd1 | how do i connect my laptop to my modem | 21:14 |
| brandonnxd1 | ill start my computer over in a minute | 21:14 |
| brandonnxd1 | but my laptop lost connection when i configured my modem | 21:14 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: you may have changed the WiFi SSID or security parameters | 21:14 |
| brandonnxd1 | hrmm | 21:16 |
| brandonnxd1 | its connected | 21:16 |
| wrst | or brandonnxd1 you probably restarted your modem after opening up the ports | 21:16 |
| brandonnxd1 | just not to the internet | 21:16 |
| wrst | and that caused a connection loss | 21:16 |
| wrst | is your laptop windows also? | 21:16 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: i can see that you have ports 53 and 80 open | 21:18 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: anyone in the world can see that | 21:18 |
| brandonnxd1 | yea | 21:19 |
| brandonnxd1 | and hrmm | 21:19 |
| brandonnxd1 | how about now | 21:19 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: still open | 21:21 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: what did you try to do to close them? | 21:21 |
| brandonnxd1 | im trying to think.... i can bind my webpage to a different port | 21:21 |
| brandonnxd1 | and then close port 80 | 21:21 |
| brandonnxd1 | im confused | 21:21 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd1: if you want a clean URL (without a port number in it) port 80 must be open | 21:22 |
| pace_t_zulu | wrst, cyberanger right? | 21:22 |
| brandonnxd1 | oh | 21:23 |
| brandonnxd1 | gotcha | 21:23 |
| pace_t_zulu | port 80 = http:// | 21:23 |
| pace_t_zulu | port 443 = https:// | 21:23 |
| wrst | yes pace_t_zulu | 21:24 |
| wrst | AFAIK | 21:24 |
| wrst | brandonnxd1: trust me if you want people to see this webpage you will want a commercial host, doing it your way is great for testing i do that a lot actaully but for more than that consumer grade connections just don't work well for hosting a website the upload speeds aren't fast enough for one not to mention the security concerns | 21:26 |
| brandonnxd | k | 21:27 |
| brandonnxd | i think i have them all closed no | 21:27 |
| brandonnxd | now | 21:27 |
| brandonnxd | hey | 21:27 |
| wrst | i know port 80 is closed i can't access the page anymore | 21:29 |
| brandonnxd | k | 21:34 |
| brandonnxd | so i guess ill just leave it like that | 21:34 |
| brandonnxd | :/ | 21:34 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: make sure windows update is always installing security fixes | 21:36 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: in short, yes | 21:36 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: "in short" is what i was going for | 21:37 |
| cyberanger | (sorry, county roads & cell signal, not an ideal mix) | 21:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: i'm sure there is a convoluted way to do it... but that's not appropriate at this level | 21:37 |
| pace_t_zulu | cyberanger: no worries | 21:37 |
| brandonnxd | i still can't get my laptop to connect to the internet | 21:40 |
| cyberanger | pace_t_zulu: and honestly, for moneys worth, a host on port 80 is best | 21:40 |
| brandonnxd | nrmd | 21:41 |
| brandonnxd | i fixed that. | 21:41 |
| brandonnxd | i accidently picked use this DNS server, and the other laptop wasn't set to that :/ | 21:42 |
| brandonnxd | i guess, neway i fixed that and laptop works again | 21:42 |
| brandonnxd | succcksksksks | 21:44 |
| brandonnxd | i wanna host my own website | 21:44 |
| brandonnxd | and name server, coz im about to buy a new computer for personal use and only use this one for server | 21:44 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: sounds like a perfect setup to experiment with | 21:45 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: if you want to start hosting for other people... you'll want a hosting provider | 21:45 |
| brandonnxd | hrmmm, can i do that myself? | 21:45 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: but what you a doing is definitely worth while - a good learning experience | 21:45 |
| wrst | agreed brandonnxd you will learn a bunch from what you are doing | 21:46 |
| brandonnxd | yep and i gotta lot of awesome software | 21:46 |
| brandonnxd | im trying to learn how to use | 21:46 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: what awesome software? | 21:46 |
| brandonnxd | idk, :P i got urmm mysql server 2008 | 21:47 |
| brandonnxd | visual studio professional 2010 | 21:47 |
| wrst | ha ha brandonnxd you are in a linux channel so you may not get many pats on the back :P | 21:47 |
| brandonnxd | urmm www.dreamspark.com/ | 21:47 |
| brandonnxd | haha and i know | 21:47 |
| brandonnxd | :P | 21:47 |
| brandonnxd | i like linux, coz everything is free, but microsoft gave me all that stuff free, so yea | 21:48 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: in all honesty i think you will want to expirement with hosting on a linux server | 21:48 |
| brandonnxd | i get some and i lose some | 21:48 |
| brandonnxd | , is ubuntu a good enviroment? | 21:48 |
| brandonnxd | to do that on | 21:48 |
| brandonnxd | or is that an OS and not server? | 21:49 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: ubuntu server is a great server op i think especially to get your start on | 21:49 |
| brandonnxd | thats what i got, but don't know how to do all the stuff i just did from there | 21:49 |
| brandonnxd | is it more secure, like whats the pros and cons vs the way i do it now? | 21:50 |
| brandonnxd | . | 21:51 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: ubuntu is botha server os and a desktop os its in two different "editions" | 21:52 |
| brandonnxd | ohh | 21:55 |
| brandonnxd | so whats the link for the server os? | 21:55 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/server/overview | 21:57 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: microsoft gives you all that stuff for free because you are a student... you learn on their software for free... after you graduate, when you want to make money, you are dependent on their software - because that's what you learned on | 22:03 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: see why it suits microsoft to give you their software free? | 22:05 |
| wrst | almost like cigarette companies giving out free samples pace_t_zulu? | 22:07 |
| pace_t_zulu | i guess brandonnxd doesn't see the point | 22:12 |
| brandonnxd | yea, i get that, and i like their software sometimes coz it shows me how i should do everything by looking where it saves stuff | 22:15 |
| brandonnxd | it tries to hide everything though | 22:16 |
| brandonnxd | so urmm about that server im downloading,, is it easy to set up my site on it? | 22:16 |
| wrst | brandonnxd: you will learn how to really do things with ubuntu server there is no gui on it | 22:16 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: but you can have a desktop on ubuntu-server if you are more comfortable that way | 22:27 |
| pace_t_zulu | sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop | 22:27 |
| brandonnxd | i dont' mind the terminal | 22:32 |
| brandonnxd | i just need to know more commands for doing the task that ill have to do | 22:32 |
| pace_t_zulu | brandonnxd: if you don't mind the terminal.... you definitely should be working with Linux rather than Windows | 22:33 |
| brandonnxd | k so now i gotta get some php script to working on my website | 23:03 |
| brandonnxd | and then its off to javascript | 23:03 |
| brandonnxd | ne body wanna help me :P | 23:03 |
| brandonnxd | nevermind, im gonna put that off for a minute. | 23:04 |
| brandonnxd | i gotta go to the store. | 23:04 |
| pace_t_zulu | wow... dealing with malloc issues in Xcode all day | 23:09 |
| brandonnxd | WEEEGGGGggg | 23:38 |
| brandonnxd | am back | 23:39 |
| brandonnxd | ok.... since u put it like that | 23:54 |
| brandonnxd | wasaahhahsajfkdsjijweof | 23:54 |
| brandonnxd | and pickles | 23:55 |
| brandonnxd | ...plEase | 23:55 |
| brandonnxd | <?php | 23:55 |
| brandonnxd | <?php name = _POST['name']; | 23:56 |
| brandonnxd | ?> | 23:56 |
| brandonnxd | hehehahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawoooo | 23:56 |
| brandonnxd | Acunamitada | 23:57 |
| brandonnxd | whata wonderful phrase | 23:57 |
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