[00:00] <wrst> chris4585: well since unity is based on gnome 3 and unity on gnome 2 is that the reason?
[00:00] <chris4585> wrst, that might be it...
[00:00] <wrst> i suspect its not an intentional snub
[00:01] <chris4585> I kind of wish we were using gnome 3.x but I bet that wont be too long
[00:02] <wrst> chris4585: i'm loving gnome 3
[00:02] <chris4585> well thats good I kind of thought you would
[00:02] <chris4585> like I said before I can't wait to try it
[00:06] <wrst> its great, they i think may not have hit a home run bue certainly an RBI double and for it to be so many major changes what else could you ask for
[00:06] <chris4585> yeah
[00:07] <wrst> and it will improve from here
[01:40] <vychune> o/
[03:23] <cyberanger> hope everyone is enjoying this lovely weather :-/
[03:34] <cyberanger> whoops, bad botscript, worse coder
[03:34] <cyberanger> sorry, didn't mean to CTCP the entire channel (well, this channel that is)
[09:29] <brandonnxd> hey chat room!
[14:16] <Xpistos> Hey dudes
[14:16] <Xpistos> wrst
[14:16] <wrst> howdy Xpistos
[14:16] <Xpistos> here is an interesting perdicatment
[14:16] <Xpistos> I have a joomla install on a box here at work
[14:16] <Xpistos> if I go http://IP
[14:16] <Xpistos> I get nothing
[14:17] <Xpistos> if I go http://IP/cityofbaxter.com it shows me the site
[14:17] <Xpistos> is there away to fix this, or can I add an alias on the box somewhere to point to the correct location?
[15:58] <chibihogoshino> type a normal ip address in
[15:59] <chibihogoshino> oh .. i forgot the :-P
[16:24] <brandonnxd> whatsup folks
[16:27] <brandonnxd> weeegggGG
[16:40] <brandonnxd> well hey im setting up my DNS Server, and i can't figure out how to register my nameservers, and id also like for someone to help tell me if i have done ever thing  right, am trying to get my website on the web
[16:42] <brandonnxd> nay help?
[16:42] <brandonnxd> any**
[17:13] <Xpistos> anyone know where I can change the default webpage in apache?
[17:22] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: what do you mean change the default page?
[17:22] <pace_t_zulu> Xpistos: location on your file system? or the contents of the page?
[18:14] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: ping
[18:19] <brandonnxd> */nick heckifiknow*
[18:20] <heckifiknow> really?
[18:23] <Xpistos> lol you tried. That is the important thin
[18:24] <Xpistos> g
[18:25] <heckifiknow> haha i did it
[18:25] <heckifiknow> but not really sure what i did
[18:25] <heckifiknow> oh
[18:25] <heckifiknow> hrmm. im gonna give it some though
[18:25] <heckifiknow> t
[18:25] <heckifiknow> ill figure it out, coz i may end up having the same problem
[18:30] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: sorry, unusual day
[18:37] <heckifiknow> what port does my website need to be on to be viewed on the web?
[18:38] <pace_t_zulu> heckifiknow: 80
[18:38] <pace_t_zulu> heckifiknow: 80 for http .... 443 for https
[18:38] <heckifiknow> hrmm, well what about my firewall not letting computers through?
[18:38] <heckifiknow> said something about port 73
[18:42] <pace_t_zulu> heckifiknow: so you're using windows server 2008?
[18:42] <heckifiknow> yea
[18:42] <pace_t_zulu> heckifiknow: you have the machine physically near you... or is it hosted somewhere else
[18:42] <pace_t_zulu> ?
[18:42] <heckifiknow> i have two roles, web server,(IIS7) and DNS Server,
[18:42] <heckifiknow> im on it right now
[18:43] <heckifiknow> and my godaddy account domain is set to point to my ip address
[18:43] <heckifiknow> i tryed setting up nameservers but i didn't do something exactly right
[18:43] <pace_t_zulu> i wouldn't worry about DNS until you can get the web server working with an ip address
[18:43] <pace_t_zulu> heckifiknow: i'm going to pm you again to get more details that you might not want logged in here
[18:43] <heckifiknow> otay, thats kinda what i was thinking,
[18:44] <heckifiknow> k
[19:11] <heckifiknow> wow
[19:11] <heckifiknow> sure is quit in here
[19:23] <heckifiknow> hey i think i got it figured out
[19:23] <heckifiknow> can ne one tell me if this link works?
[19:23] <heckifiknow> This site has multiple bindings
[19:24] <heckifiknow> http://www.thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com
[20:16] <brandonnxd> ok can someone help me get my ip address set so that remote computers can view my webpage
[20:26] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: you need to forward port 80 to the machine that the webserver is running on
[20:28] <brandonnxd> ok, im trying to open up the wizard now for my netgear modem
[20:32] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: what brand & model modem and routers do you have?
[20:34] <brandonnxd> hey!
[20:34] <brandonnxd> i need to know something
[20:37] <wrst> hello everyone
[20:37] <brandonnxd> hey
[20:37] <brandonnxd> wrst
[20:37] <wrst> helo brandonnxd
[20:37] <brandonnxd> can help me with port fowarding?
[20:38] <wrst> brandonnxd: really just depends on the router you are using, should be simple enough and some routers have an option to enable DMZ
[20:39] <brandonnxd> ok i have service name i chose http
[20:39] <brandonnxd> for setting up my website
[20:39] <brandonnxd> and server ip address
[20:39] <brandonnxd> is that my private ip address or public ip address
[20:39] <brandonnxd> 192.  or  75.
[20:40] <wrst> brandonnxd: you need to set your router to forward port 80 to the internal IP address of your webserver
[20:41] <brandonnxd> so thats whatever ip address i choose?
[20:41] <brandonnxd> or my private ip address
[20:41] <brandonnxd> or my DNS server address.
[20:41] <wrst> no what is the IP adddress of your server, the local IP address
[20:41] <brandonnxd> k
[20:41] <brandonnxd> sorry im just overwhelming my self, but i think im almost donw
[20:42] <wrst> brandonnxd: for instance if yoru IP is 192.168.1.100 you will forward port 80 to that
[20:47] <brandonnxd1> ok :D
[20:53] <wrst> pace_t_zulu: does he know enough to do what he's doing? i thought that was a pretty simple process?
[20:54] <wrst> brandonnxd1: give me the model number of the router and let me check and see what i can find out might be able to help you out a little more?
[20:55] <brandonnxd1> i think im done
[20:55] <brandonnxd1> i set up three
[20:55] <brandonnxd1> ports
[20:55] <brandonnxd1> one for smtp one for http and one for dns
[20:55] <wrst> ok well if you don't get it brandonnxd1 let me know if i don't know I know people that know :)
[20:56] <pace_t_zulu> wrst: i suggested getting a hosting provider
[20:56] <cyberanger> brandonnxd1: you need to really check that your static
[20:56] <cyberanger> or things will break down
[20:56] <wrst> yeah pace_t_zulu i would agree that hosting is cheap
[20:56] <brandonnxd1> ok so with those threee ports
[20:56] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: he's not there yet
[20:56] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: he still needs to setup port forwarding
[20:56] <brandonnxd1> i should be able to send emails with php and with set up nameservers right
[20:56] <brandonnxd1> and also let people see my page
[20:56] <brandonnxd1> k
[20:57] <pace_t_zulu> you can send emails with php without any of this setup
[20:57] <brandonnxd1> so now i need to change my ip address and fix the port fowarding to match right?
[20:57] <brandonnxd1> my comp said that smtp isn't set up on my comp
[20:57] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: you need to configure your network to forward port 80 traffic to the ip address of the web server
[20:58] <brandonnxd1> ok, but i gotta chang my ip address so u guys can see my webpage right?
[20:58] <brandonnxd1> i can't get the ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway to match up,
[20:58] <brandonnxd1> im looking that up now
[20:59] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: when it is correctly configured you should see your webpage at http://75.64.5.237/
[20:59] <pace_t_zulu> which i do see now
[20:59] <pace_t_zulu> good job brandonnxd1
[21:01] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: it is working now...
[21:01] <wrst> brandonnxd1: i got it also
[21:01] <brandonnxd1> it is! :D
[21:01] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: you should set thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com to point to 75.64.5.237 rather than 192.168.1.2
[21:02] <brandonnxd1> ok :D
[21:02] <brandonnxd1> thanks u guys
[21:02] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: if you do that then you should be able to browse to http://thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com and get the same page as http://75.64.5.237
[21:02] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: but pay attention to what cyberanger said about your ip address
[21:03] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: if your ip address is not static - it could change at anytime and then thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com will point to someone else's cable modem
[21:04] <wrst> yeah brandonnxd1 pace_t_zulu has suggested the best, and probably cheapest solution to get a commercial web host
[21:04] <brandonnxd1> its static
[21:04] <brandonnxd1> and
[21:05] <brandonnxd1> now my other computer isn't online
[21:05] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: fyi your website loads very slowly where i am ... getting a hosting provider would help with that too
[21:05] <cyberanger> brandonnxd1: it looks like your 75. address is not
[21:06] <brandonnxd1> it isn't
[21:06] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: fyi comcast cable bandwidth is asymetric... meaning you cannot upload as fast as you can download... which is what a web server does
[21:06] <brandonnxd1> i set it in my cable modem box to be static
[21:06] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: it is not that simple
[21:06] <brandonnxd1> ok, am learning alot
[21:06] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: usually you have to contact comcast about that
[21:07] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: and it is likely to be more expensive
[21:07] <wrst> and it will cost you extra probably have to go to a bus. class or something
[21:07] <brandonnxd1> ok so when i set my port forwards i set my ip to be static instead of dynamic
[21:07] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: i was in you shoes before.... hosting provider is going to be the path of least resistance
[21:08] <brandonnxd1> well, this is my website, i think i may just have someone put up a copy while i work with this one?
[21:08] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: i wouldn't recommend serving public websites from your home
[21:09] <wrst> brandonnxd1: you open yourself up for attacks
[21:09] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: yea... you should setup a test server at home... use that for testing
[21:09] <brandonnxd1> so now my websites up, im on server 2008
[21:10] <brandonnxd1> does that not make me very secure if i keep the updates?
[21:11] <wrst> brandonnxd1: you have a common port opened up
[21:12] <brandonnxd1> hrmm, can i use a different port
[21:12] <brandonnxd1> grr
[21:12] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: no
[21:12] <brandonnxd1> how do i connect a computer wirelessly to the modem i just configured?
[21:12] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: not unless you want your address to be http://thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com:8080
[21:13] <brandonnxd1> can i use bindings to change that
[21:13] <brandonnxd1> and hide the 8080
[21:13] <brandonnxd1> and then would that help my security
[21:13] <pace_t_zulu> if you want to hide it you have to have port 80 open somewhere
[21:14] <brandonnxd1> ok well for now
[21:14] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: hosting provider is *HIGHLY* recommended at this point
[21:14] <brandonnxd1> how do i connect my laptop to my modem
[21:14] <brandonnxd1> ill start my computer over in a minute
[21:14] <brandonnxd1> but my laptop lost connection when i configured my modem
[21:14] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: you may have changed the WiFi SSID or security parameters
[21:16] <brandonnxd1> hrmm
[21:16] <brandonnxd1> its connected
[21:16] <wrst> or brandonnxd1 you probably restarted your modem after opening up the ports
[21:16] <brandonnxd1> just not to the internet
[21:16] <wrst> and that caused a connection loss
[21:16] <wrst> is your laptop windows also?
[21:18] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: i can see that you have ports 53 and 80 open
[21:18] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: anyone in the world can see that
[21:19] <brandonnxd1> yea
[21:19] <brandonnxd1> and hrmm
[21:19] <brandonnxd1> how about now
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: still open
[21:21] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: what did you try to do to close them?
[21:21] <brandonnxd1> im trying to think.... i can bind my webpage to a different port
[21:21] <brandonnxd1> and then close port 80
[21:21] <brandonnxd1> im confused
[21:22] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd1: if you want a clean URL (without a port number in it) port 80 must be open
[21:22] <pace_t_zulu> wrst, cyberanger right?
[21:23] <brandonnxd1> oh
[21:23] <brandonnxd1> gotcha
[21:23] <pace_t_zulu> port 80 = http://
[21:23] <pace_t_zulu> port 443 = https://
[21:24] <wrst> yes pace_t_zulu
[21:24] <wrst> AFAIK
[21:26] <wrst> brandonnxd1: trust me if you want people to see this webpage you will want a commercial host, doing it your way is great for testing i do that a lot actaully but for more than that consumer grade connections just don't work well for hosting a website the upload speeds aren't fast enough for one not to mention the security concerns
[21:27] <brandonnxd> k
[21:27] <brandonnxd> i think i have them all closed no
[21:27] <brandonnxd> now
[21:27] <brandonnxd> hey
[21:29] <wrst> i know port 80 is closed i can't access the page anymore
[21:34] <brandonnxd> k
[21:34] <brandonnxd> so i guess ill just leave it like that
[21:34] <brandonnxd> :/
[21:36] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: make sure windows update is always installing security fixes
[21:36] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: in short, yes
[21:37] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: "in short" is what i was going for
[21:37] <cyberanger> (sorry, county roads & cell signal, not an ideal mix)
[21:37] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: i'm sure there is a convoluted way to do it... but that's not appropriate at this level
[21:37] <pace_t_zulu> cyberanger: no worries
[21:40] <brandonnxd> i still can't get my laptop to connect to the internet
[21:40] <cyberanger> pace_t_zulu: and honestly, for moneys worth, a host on port 80 is best
[21:41] <brandonnxd> nrmd
[21:41] <brandonnxd> i fixed that.
[21:42] <brandonnxd> i accidently picked use this DNS server, and the other laptop wasn't set to that :/
[21:42] <brandonnxd> i guess, neway i fixed that and laptop works again
[21:44] <brandonnxd> succcksksksks
[21:44] <brandonnxd> i wanna host my own website
[21:44] <brandonnxd> and name server, coz im about to buy a new computer for personal use and only use this one for server
[21:45] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: sounds like a perfect setup to experiment with
[21:45] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: if you want to start hosting for other people... you'll want a hosting provider
[21:45] <brandonnxd> hrmmm, can i do that myself?
[21:45] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: but what you a doing is definitely worth while - a good learning experience
[21:46] <wrst> agreed brandonnxd you will learn a bunch from what you are doing
[21:46] <brandonnxd>  yep and i gotta lot of awesome software
[21:46] <brandonnxd> im trying to learn how to use
[21:46] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: what awesome software?
[21:47] <brandonnxd> idk, :P i got urmm mysql server 2008
[21:47] <brandonnxd> visual studio professional 2010
[21:47] <wrst> ha ha brandonnxd you are in a linux channel so you may not get many pats on the back :P
[21:47] <brandonnxd> urmm  www.dreamspark.com/
[21:47] <brandonnxd> haha and i know
[21:47] <brandonnxd> :P
[21:48] <brandonnxd> i like linux, coz everything is free, but microsoft gave me all that stuff free, so yea
[21:48] <wrst> brandonnxd: in all honesty i think you will want to expirement with hosting on a linux server
[21:48] <brandonnxd> i get some and i lose some
[21:48] <brandonnxd> , is ubuntu a good enviroment?
[21:48] <brandonnxd> to do that on
[21:49] <brandonnxd> or is that an OS and not server?
[21:49] <wrst> brandonnxd: ubuntu server is a great server op i think especially to get your start on
[21:49] <brandonnxd> thats what i got, but don't know how to do all the stuff i just did from there
[21:50] <brandonnxd> is it more secure, like whats the pros and cons vs the way i do  it now?
[21:51] <brandonnxd> .
[21:52] <wrst> brandonnxd: ubuntu is botha  server os and a desktop os its in two different "editions"
[21:55] <brandonnxd> ohh
[21:55] <brandonnxd> so whats the link for the server os?
[21:57] <wrst> brandonnxd: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/server/overview
[22:03] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: microsoft gives you all that stuff for free because you are a student... you learn on their software for free... after you graduate, when you want to make money, you are dependent on their software - because that's what you learned on
[22:05] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: see why it suits microsoft to give you their software free?
[22:07] <wrst> almost like cigarette companies giving out free samples pace_t_zulu?
[22:12] <pace_t_zulu> i guess brandonnxd doesn't see the point
[22:15] <brandonnxd> yea, i get that, and i like their software sometimes coz it shows me how i should do everything by looking where it saves stuff
[22:16] <brandonnxd> it tries to hide everything though
[22:16] <brandonnxd> so urmm about that server im downloading,, is it easy to set up my site on it?
[22:16] <wrst> brandonnxd: you will learn how to really do things with ubuntu server there is no gui on it
[22:27] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: but you can have a desktop on ubuntu-server if you are more comfortable that way
[22:27] <pace_t_zulu> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[22:32] <brandonnxd> i dont' mind the terminal
[22:32] <brandonnxd> i just need to know more commands for doing the task that ill have to do
[22:33] <pace_t_zulu> brandonnxd: if you don't mind the terminal.... you definitely should be working with Linux rather than Windows
[23:03] <brandonnxd> k so now i gotta get some php script to working on my website
[23:03] <brandonnxd> and then its off to javascript
[23:03] <brandonnxd> ne body wanna help me :P
[23:04] <brandonnxd> nevermind, im gonna put that off for a minute.
[23:04] <brandonnxd> i gotta go to the store.
[23:09] <pace_t_zulu> wow... dealing with malloc issues in Xcode all day
[23:38] <brandonnxd> WEEEGGGGggg
[23:39] <brandonnxd> am back
[23:54] <brandonnxd> ok.... since u put it like that
[23:54] <brandonnxd> wasaahhahsajfkdsjijweof
[23:55] <brandonnxd> and pickles
[23:55] <brandonnxd> ...plEase
[23:55] <brandonnxd> <?php
[23:56] <brandonnxd> <?php name = _POST['name'];
[23:56] <brandonnxd> ?>
[23:56] <brandonnxd> hehehahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawoooo
[23:57] <brandonnxd> Acunamitada
[23:57] <brandonnxd> whata wonderful phrase