[00:00] chris4585: well since unity is based on gnome 3 and unity on gnome 2 is that the reason? [00:00] wrst, that might be it... [00:00] i suspect its not an intentional snub [00:01] I kind of wish we were using gnome 3.x but I bet that wont be too long [00:02] chris4585: i'm loving gnome 3 [00:02] well thats good I kind of thought you would [00:02] like I said before I can't wait to try it [00:06] its great, they i think may not have hit a home run bue certainly an RBI double and for it to be so many major changes what else could you ask for [00:06] yeah [00:07] and it will improve from here [01:40] o/ [03:23] hope everyone is enjoying this lovely weather :-/ [03:34] whoops, bad botscript, worse coder [03:34] sorry, didn't mean to CTCP the entire channel (well, this channel that is) [09:29] hey chat room! [14:16] Hey dudes [14:16] wrst [14:16] howdy Xpistos [14:16] here is an interesting perdicatment [14:16] I have a joomla install on a box here at work [14:16] if I go http://IP [14:16] I get nothing [14:17] if I go http://IP/cityofbaxter.com it shows me the site [14:17] is there away to fix this, or can I add an alias on the box somewhere to point to the correct location? [15:58] type a normal ip address in [15:59] oh .. i forgot the :-P [16:24] whatsup folks [16:27] weeegggGG [16:40] well hey im setting up my DNS Server, and i can't figure out how to register my nameservers, and id also like for someone to help tell me if i have done ever thing right, am trying to get my website on the web [16:42] nay help? [16:42] any** [17:13] anyone know where I can change the default webpage in apache? [17:22] Xpistos: what do you mean change the default page? [17:22] Xpistos: location on your file system? or the contents of the page? [18:14] cyberanger: ping [18:19] */nick heckifiknow* === brandonnxd is now known as heckifiknow [18:20] really? [18:23] lol you tried. That is the important thin [18:24] g [18:25] haha i did it [18:25] but not really sure what i did [18:25] oh [18:25] hrmm. im gonna give it some though [18:25] t [18:25] ill figure it out, coz i may end up having the same problem [18:30] pace_t_zulu: sorry, unusual day [18:37] what port does my website need to be on to be viewed on the web? [18:38] heckifiknow: 80 [18:38] heckifiknow: 80 for http .... 443 for https [18:38] hrmm, well what about my firewall not letting computers through? [18:38] said something about port 73 [18:42] heckifiknow: so you're using windows server 2008? [18:42] yea [18:42] heckifiknow: you have the machine physically near you... or is it hosted somewhere else [18:42] ? [18:42] i have two roles, web server,(IIS7) and DNS Server, [18:42] im on it right now [18:43] and my godaddy account domain is set to point to my ip address [18:43] i tryed setting up nameservers but i didn't do something exactly right [18:43] i wouldn't worry about DNS until you can get the web server working with an ip address [18:43] heckifiknow: i'm going to pm you again to get more details that you might not want logged in here [18:43] otay, thats kinda what i was thinking, [18:44] k === Xpistos is now known as Xpistos-Lunch [19:11] wow [19:11] sure is quit in here [19:23] hey i think i got it figured out [19:23] can ne one tell me if this link works? [19:23] This site has multiple bindings [19:24] http://www.thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com [20:16] ok can someone help me get my ip address set so that remote computers can view my webpage [20:26] brandonnxd: you need to forward port 80 to the machine that the webserver is running on [20:28] ok, im trying to open up the wizard now for my netgear modem [20:32] brandonnxd: what brand & model modem and routers do you have? [20:34] hey! [20:34] i need to know something [20:37] hello everyone [20:37] hey [20:37] wrst [20:37] helo brandonnxd [20:37] can help me with port fowarding? [20:38] brandonnxd: really just depends on the router you are using, should be simple enough and some routers have an option to enable DMZ [20:39] ok i have service name i chose http [20:39] for setting up my website [20:39] and server ip address [20:39] is that my private ip address or public ip address [20:39] 192. or 75. [20:40] brandonnxd: you need to set your router to forward port 80 to the internal IP address of your webserver [20:41] so thats whatever ip address i choose? [20:41] or my private ip address [20:41] or my DNS server address. [20:41] no what is the IP adddress of your server, the local IP address [20:41] k [20:41] sorry im just overwhelming my self, but i think im almost donw [20:42] brandonnxd: for instance if yoru IP is 192.168.1.100 you will forward port 80 to that [20:47] ok :D [20:53] pace_t_zulu: does he know enough to do what he's doing? i thought that was a pretty simple process? [20:54] brandonnxd1: give me the model number of the router and let me check and see what i can find out might be able to help you out a little more? [20:55] i think im done [20:55] i set up three [20:55] ports [20:55] one for smtp one for http and one for dns [20:55] ok well if you don't get it brandonnxd1 let me know if i don't know I know people that know :) [20:56] wrst: i suggested getting a hosting provider [20:56] brandonnxd1: you need to really check that your static [20:56] or things will break down [20:56] yeah pace_t_zulu i would agree that hosting is cheap [20:56] ok so with those threee ports [20:56] cyberanger: he's not there yet [20:56] cyberanger: he still needs to setup port forwarding [20:56] i should be able to send emails with php and with set up nameservers right [20:56] and also let people see my page [20:56] k [20:57] you can send emails with php without any of this setup [20:57] so now i need to change my ip address and fix the port fowarding to match right? [20:57] my comp said that smtp isn't set up on my comp [20:57] brandonnxd1: you need to configure your network to forward port 80 traffic to the ip address of the web server [20:58] ok, but i gotta chang my ip address so u guys can see my webpage right? [20:58] i can't get the ip address, subnet mask, and default gateway to match up, [20:58] im looking that up now [20:59] brandonnxd1: when it is correctly configured you should see your webpage at http://75.64.5.237/ [20:59] which i do see now [20:59] good job brandonnxd1 [21:01] brandonnxd1: it is working now... [21:01] brandonnxd1: i got it also [21:01] it is! :D [21:01] brandonnxd1: you should set thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com to point to 75.64.5.237 rather than 192.168.1.2 [21:02] ok :D [21:02] thanks u guys [21:02] brandonnxd1: if you do that then you should be able to browse to http://thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com and get the same page as http://75.64.5.237 [21:02] brandonnxd1: but pay attention to what cyberanger said about your ip address [21:03] brandonnxd1: if your ip address is not static - it could change at anytime and then thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com will point to someone else's cable modem [21:04] yeah brandonnxd1 pace_t_zulu has suggested the best, and probably cheapest solution to get a commercial web host [21:04] its static [21:04] and [21:05] now my other computer isn't online [21:05] brandonnxd1: fyi your website loads very slowly where i am ... getting a hosting provider would help with that too [21:05] brandonnxd1: it looks like your 75. address is not [21:06] it isn't [21:06] brandonnxd1: fyi comcast cable bandwidth is asymetric... meaning you cannot upload as fast as you can download... which is what a web server does [21:06] i set it in my cable modem box to be static [21:06] brandonnxd1: it is not that simple [21:06] ok, am learning alot [21:06] brandonnxd1: usually you have to contact comcast about that [21:07] brandonnxd1: and it is likely to be more expensive [21:07] and it will cost you extra probably have to go to a bus. class or something [21:07] ok so when i set my port forwards i set my ip to be static instead of dynamic [21:07] brandonnxd1: i was in you shoes before.... hosting provider is going to be the path of least resistance [21:08] well, this is my website, i think i may just have someone put up a copy while i work with this one? [21:08] brandonnxd1: i wouldn't recommend serving public websites from your home [21:09] brandonnxd1: you open yourself up for attacks [21:09] brandonnxd1: yea... you should setup a test server at home... use that for testing [21:09] so now my websites up, im on server 2008 [21:10] does that not make me very secure if i keep the updates? [21:11] brandonnxd1: you have a common port opened up [21:12] hrmm, can i use a different port [21:12] grr [21:12] brandonnxd1: no [21:12] how do i connect a computer wirelessly to the modem i just configured? [21:12] brandonnxd1: not unless you want your address to be http://thatsa2cheapcarpetcleaning.com:8080 [21:13] can i use bindings to change that [21:13] and hide the 8080 [21:13] and then would that help my security [21:13] if you want to hide it you have to have port 80 open somewhere [21:14] ok well for now [21:14] brandonnxd1: hosting provider is *HIGHLY* recommended at this point [21:14] how do i connect my laptop to my modem [21:14] ill start my computer over in a minute [21:14] but my laptop lost connection when i configured my modem [21:14] brandonnxd1: you may have changed the WiFi SSID or security parameters [21:16] hrmm [21:16] its connected [21:16] or brandonnxd1 you probably restarted your modem after opening up the ports [21:16] just not to the internet [21:16] and that caused a connection loss [21:16] is your laptop windows also? [21:18] brandonnxd1: i can see that you have ports 53 and 80 open [21:18] brandonnxd1: anyone in the world can see that [21:19] yea [21:19] and hrmm [21:19] how about now [21:21] brandonnxd1: still open [21:21] brandonnxd1: what did you try to do to close them? [21:21] im trying to think.... i can bind my webpage to a different port [21:21] and then close port 80 [21:21] im confused [21:22] brandonnxd1: if you want a clean URL (without a port number in it) port 80 must be open [21:22] wrst, cyberanger right? [21:23] oh [21:23] gotcha [21:23] port 80 = http:// [21:23] port 443 = https:// [21:24] yes pace_t_zulu [21:24] AFAIK [21:26] brandonnxd1: trust me if you want people to see this webpage you will want a commercial host, doing it your way is great for testing i do that a lot actaully but for more than that consumer grade connections just don't work well for hosting a website the upload speeds aren't fast enough for one not to mention the security concerns [21:27] k [21:27] i think i have them all closed no [21:27] now [21:27] hey [21:29] i know port 80 is closed i can't access the page anymore [21:34] k [21:34] so i guess ill just leave it like that [21:34] :/ [21:36] brandonnxd: make sure windows update is always installing security fixes [21:36] pace_t_zulu: in short, yes [21:37] cyberanger: "in short" is what i was going for [21:37] (sorry, county roads & cell signal, not an ideal mix) [21:37] cyberanger: i'm sure there is a convoluted way to do it... but that's not appropriate at this level [21:37] cyberanger: no worries [21:40] i still can't get my laptop to connect to the internet [21:40] pace_t_zulu: and honestly, for moneys worth, a host on port 80 is best [21:41] nrmd [21:41] i fixed that. [21:42] i accidently picked use this DNS server, and the other laptop wasn't set to that :/ [21:42] i guess, neway i fixed that and laptop works again [21:44] succcksksksks [21:44] i wanna host my own website [21:44] and name server, coz im about to buy a new computer for personal use and only use this one for server [21:45] brandonnxd: sounds like a perfect setup to experiment with [21:45] brandonnxd: if you want to start hosting for other people... you'll want a hosting provider [21:45] hrmmm, can i do that myself? [21:45] brandonnxd: but what you a doing is definitely worth while - a good learning experience [21:46] agreed brandonnxd you will learn a bunch from what you are doing [21:46] yep and i gotta lot of awesome software [21:46] im trying to learn how to use [21:46] brandonnxd: what awesome software? [21:47] idk, :P i got urmm mysql server 2008 [21:47] visual studio professional 2010 [21:47] ha ha brandonnxd you are in a linux channel so you may not get many pats on the back :P [21:47] urmm www.dreamspark.com/ [21:47] haha and i know [21:47] :P [21:48] i like linux, coz everything is free, but microsoft gave me all that stuff free, so yea [21:48] brandonnxd: in all honesty i think you will want to expirement with hosting on a linux server [21:48] i get some and i lose some [21:48] , is ubuntu a good enviroment? [21:48] to do that on [21:49] or is that an OS and not server? [21:49] brandonnxd: ubuntu server is a great server op i think especially to get your start on [21:49] thats what i got, but don't know how to do all the stuff i just did from there [21:50] is it more secure, like whats the pros and cons vs the way i do it now? [21:51] . [21:52] brandonnxd: ubuntu is botha server os and a desktop os its in two different "editions" [21:55] ohh [21:55] so whats the link for the server os? [21:57] brandonnxd: http://www.ubuntu.com/business/server/overview [22:03] brandonnxd: microsoft gives you all that stuff for free because you are a student... you learn on their software for free... after you graduate, when you want to make money, you are dependent on their software - because that's what you learned on [22:05] brandonnxd: see why it suits microsoft to give you their software free? [22:07] almost like cigarette companies giving out free samples pace_t_zulu? [22:12] i guess brandonnxd doesn't see the point [22:15] yea, i get that, and i like their software sometimes coz it shows me how i should do everything by looking where it saves stuff [22:16] it tries to hide everything though [22:16] so urmm about that server im downloading,, is it easy to set up my site on it? [22:16] brandonnxd: you will learn how to really do things with ubuntu server there is no gui on it [22:27] brandonnxd: but you can have a desktop on ubuntu-server if you are more comfortable that way [22:27] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [22:32] i dont' mind the terminal [22:32] i just need to know more commands for doing the task that ill have to do [22:33] brandonnxd: if you don't mind the terminal.... you definitely should be working with Linux rather than Windows [23:03] k so now i gotta get some php script to working on my website [23:03] and then its off to javascript [23:03] ne body wanna help me :P [23:04] nevermind, im gonna put that off for a minute. [23:04] i gotta go to the store. 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