| sergio__ | and ctrl 1,9, and 0 work but no other numbers? i might have to peek at that code later to see what kind of mess is going on | 00:00 |
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| Omega | sergio__: did you report it? | 00:21 |
| nhaines | sergio__: Ctrl-I is a tab character. | 00:25 |
| nhaines | I don't know what Ctrl-J is. | 00:25 |
| sergio__ | i see | 00:25 |
| sergio__ | yOmega im submitting now, got sidetracked | 00:26 |
| nhaines | Oh, used to be linefeed. | 00:26 |
| sergio__ | funny, i may be retarded but I can't seem to press the printscreen button with the launcher up | 00:27 |
| Omega | That is correct. | 00:29 |
| sergio__ | damn | 00:29 |
| Omega | (meaning, I can't either) | 00:29 |
| sergio__ | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity/+bug/759290 | 00:29 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 759290 in unity (Ubuntu) "Control Character input does not work for launcher" [Undecided,New] | 00:29 |
| Omega | You should file that as a separate bug | 00:30 |
| sergio__ | its probably's taking control of screen input, so maybe the fix will bubble those things through. | 00:33 |
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| hicham | firefox window doesn't seem to be matched correctly | 01:03 |
| Omega | hicham: Hmm? | 02:03 |
| Omega | Here's someone reviewing 11.04: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaLDMz_e2jQ | 02:05 |
| hicham | Omega: I get one icon per firefox window on the dash | 02:18 |
| hicham | Omega: so the firefox window isn't matched correctly, unlike the other apps who have only one icon on the dash, no matter how many windows are open | 02:19 |
| Omega | Hmm, that's a bamf bug then. | 02:24 |
| hicham | yeah | 02:27 |
| hicham | you don't have that issue ? | 02:27 |
| Omega | Nope | 02:28 |
| hicham | weird | 02:29 |
| hicham | either firefox or bamf is patch in ubuntu then | 02:29 |
| hicham | *patched | 02:29 |
| Omega | firefox isn't patched in ubuntu, that's for sure | 02:29 |
| Omega | File a bamf bug. | 02:29 |
| hicham | ok | 02:30 |
| hicham | other apps work fine from what I can see | 02:30 |
| hicham | I am gonna finish building the whole stack then report bugs | 02:30 |
| hicham | thanks | 02:30 |
| Omega | alright | 02:34 |
| PASJR | Can anyone tell me how do I change the background on the launcher? I changed the image files I could find, but still have the same black launcer. | 03:00 |
| pasjr_ | Can anyone tell me how do I change the background on the launcher? I changed the image files I could find, but still have the same black launcer. | 03:03 |
| RAOF | pasjr_: As far as I'm aware it's not (yet) possible. | 03:05 |
| pasjr_ | Well that really is not cool. | 03:06 |
| pasjr_ | It may be time to leave Ubuntu | 03:06 |
| jbicha | I expect it will be themeable for natty+1 | 03:09 |
| RAOF | Maybe. It's a rather inoffensive matte black bar; the titlebar and such follow the GTK themes. | 03:12 |
| floorian | where is the best place to leave feedback on Unity? | 03:35 |
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| smspillaz|z | nerochiaro: pong, but I'm going to be out in a few minutes | 06:59 |
| didrocks | good morning | 07:44 |
| didrocks | RAOF: hey, any hint on the X freeze since yesterday? | 07:46 |
| RAOF | Ggggrrrargh? | 07:46 |
| RAOF | I've got some small testcases which *don't* reproduce the problem :/ | 07:47 |
| didrocks | urgh :/ | 07:47 |
| RAOF | Also, compiz for some reason seems to segfault when run under X trace. | 07:47 |
| RAOF | So I'm going to attach gdb to compiz and X and watch their communication *that* way. | 07:48 |
| RAOF | That's a bit more hairy, though. | 07:48 |
| didrocks | hum, sounds fun! :) | 07:48 |
| RAOF | It's like three *whole* barells of monkeys! | 07:49 |
| RAOF | Thrown, using a trebuchet, across a *cravasse of fire* into a tarpit of weasels! | 07:49 |
| didrocks | heh, that sentence can be directly attribute to Monkey Island I won't be surprised :) | 07:50 |
| oSoMoN | v | 08:01 |
| oSoMoN | good morning | 08:01 |
| didrocks | RAOF: you fixed bug #758307 | 08:03 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 758307 in unity (Ubuntu) "compiz crashed on initial load of Java Citrix Client" [Critical,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758307 | 08:03 |
| didrocks | salut oSoMoN | 08:03 |
| RAOF | didrocks: No, that was smspillaz|z, wasn't it? | 08:04 |
| didrocks | oh assignee: nobody → Chris Halse Rogers (raof) | 08:04 |
| didrocks | but yeah, it's Rick :) | 08:05 |
| RAOF | :) | 08:05 |
| MacSlow | greetings everybody | 08:05 |
| oSoMoN | salut didrocks, hey MacSlow | 08:06 |
| didrocks | smspillaz|z: ^^ | 08:06 |
| didrocks | Guten Morgen MacSlow | 08:06 |
| MacSlow | salut didrocks | 08:06 |
| MacSlow | hey oSoMoN, smspillaz|z | 08:06 |
| elricl | hello | 08:16 |
| elricl | I just upgraded my natty after a long time and it crashed during boot. | 08:16 |
| elricl | It said unable to mount / | 08:16 |
| elricl | Wait or skip mount | 08:17 |
| elricl | Anyone? | 08:32 |
| elricl | Anyone? | 08:52 |
| didrocks | RAOF: maybe bug #750775 can help you triggering the issue? | 08:58 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 750775 in unity (Ubuntu) "Keynav in launcher unfocuses active window, doesn't return to it when finished" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750775 | 08:58 |
| dbarth | elricl: hi, what's up? | 08:59 |
| elricl | dbarth: as i said after the upgrade natty wont boot | 08:59 |
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| elricl | dbarth: during the ubuntu plymouth screen it says, cant boot / | 09:00 |
| elricl | njpatel: a little help? After upgrade natty stops at plymouth screen,says it cant mount / and goes to a maintainence shell | 09:03 |
| njpatel | elricl, :/ I can't really help with that dude, I think you need to try #ubuntu-desktop | 09:04 |
| elricl | njpatel: ok. thanx | 09:04 |
| TheMuso | elricl: Actually, #ubuntu+1 would be a better channel for your query. | 09:19 |
| jbache | any unity 2d devs in here | 09:57 |
| jbache | ? | 09:58 |
| * jbache would be happy to help out with gtk2 theming | 09:59 | |
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| cdbs | seb128: ping, it appears Apport isn't picking up crash reports when Unity/Compiz crashes | 10:03 |
| seb128 | cdbs, hi, how do we receive all those crash bugs on launchpad then? | 10:04 |
| cdbs | seb128: I myself am confused | 10:05 |
| cdbs | seb128: but for some reason the crash files aren't coming up there | 10:05 |
| seb128 | where is "there"? | 10:05 |
| cdbs | seb128: Not just me, many others are also experiencing similar things | 10:05 |
| cdbs | seb128: /var/crash | 10:05 |
| seb128 | you are sure it's crashing? | 10:05 |
| seb128 | do you get anything in that dir? | 10:05 |
| cdbs | seb128: yeah, segfault | 10:05 |
| cdbs | seb128: nope | 10:06 |
| seb128 | is apport enabled? | 10:06 |
| cdbs | seb128: yeah | 10:06 |
| seb128 | can does status apport says? | 10:06 |
| cdbs | apport start/running | 10:06 |
| cdbs | seb128: ^ | 10:06 |
| seb128 | can you check apport.log? | 10:06 |
| seb128 | or pastebin it | 10:07 |
| cdbs | seb128: empty | 10:07 |
| seb128 | then apport.log.1 | 10:07 |
| hicham | morning didrocks | 10:08 |
| cdbs | seb128: okay, that makes sense: | 10:08 |
| cdbs | seb128: ERROR: apport (pid 3714) Tue Apr 12 15:54:51 2011: this executable already crashed 2 times, ignoring | 10:08 |
| cdbs | Old compiz crash files are lying there alredy | 10:09 |
| cdbs | *already | 10:09 |
| seb128 | cdbs, right, you need to clean the old crashes | 10:09 |
| cdbs | sudo rm -r /var/crash | 10:09 |
| cdbs | oops, wrong window | 10:09 |
| cdbs | seb128: thanks for the info then | 10:10 |
| cdbs | I thought it should overwrite the old crashes | 10:10 |
| seb128 | cdbs, it's doing that to avoid spamming you with apport dialogs if a service keeps crashing and restarting for example | 10:10 |
| didrocks | hey hicham | 10:10 |
| cdbs | seb128: AFAIK it used to do that in the Maverick cycle | 10:10 |
| hicham | didrocks: unity finally works here | 10:10 |
| cdbs | dbarth: ^ problem solution found | 10:10 |
| seb128 | cdbs, no, it has a counter in the .crash | 10:10 |
| didrocks | hicham: nice! what was the cause of the touch crash? | 10:10 |
| seb128 | cdbs, it clean those after a delay | 10:10 |
| cdbs | hmm | 10:11 |
| hicham | didrocks: it seems that it was supposing that xi2.1 support was there, while it itsn't | 10:12 |
| didrocks | hicham: oh ok ;) | 10:12 |
| hicham | didrocks: removing the crashing code from utouch-geis made it work | 10:12 |
| didrocks | cool :) | 10:12 |
| hicham | didrocks: now I am trying to build the indicators | 10:12 |
| didrocks | hicham: good luck! that's another big piece :) | 10:13 |
| hicham | didrocks: as a side note, vala bindings generation fails when using gtk2 | 10:15 |
| hicham | didrocks: the work fine for gtk3 bindings | 10:15 |
| didrocks | hicham: yeah, we got a lot of headache with this since maverick, hence the fact we export them ourself | 10:16 |
| hicham | didrocks: so to install an indicator, I just have to build/install it ? no other step needed ? | 10:24 |
| didrocks | hicham: we have patches for some applications to get the indicator integration | 10:25 |
| didrocks | hicham: talk to kenvandine when he's back, he's in charge of the integration of them | 10:25 |
| hicham | didrocks: thanks | 10:26 |
| zniavre | good morning | 10:42 |
| zniavre | i asked few days ago how to change the color of small blue triangle when apps requires attention (im color-blind blue is un-visible for me) | 10:43 |
| jbache | are there current plans for using gtk3 with unity? | 10:52 |
| didrocks | zniavre: it's currently hardcoded though :/ would you mind opening a bug and post it there? We can ask design to have a look at how it should be handled (it should impact the indicator messaging menu color as well) | 10:52 |
| hicham | didrocks: the search function doesn't work yet ? ( in what replace traditional gnome menu ) | 11:02 |
| didrocks | hicham: do you have unity-place-applications and unity-place-files installed? | 11:02 |
| hicham | didrocks: not yet | 11:02 |
| didrocks | you need them for the search | 11:03 |
| hicham | didrocks: thanks, how do you start the unity session ? I created two files in /usr/share/gnome-session/sessions and /usr/share/xsessions | 11:10 |
| hicham | didrocks: but I still don't see how to default to unity (example, for building a live cd ) | 11:10 |
| didrocks | hicham: we are using compiz profiles for that | 11:12 |
| didrocks | hicham: look in an ubuntu box at /etc/compizconfig/ | 11:12 |
| hicham | didrocks: is there a package for that ? | 11:12 |
| didrocks | hicham: and /etc/X11/Xsession.d/65compiz_profile-on-session | 11:12 |
| didrocks | hicham: it's in the ubuntu compiz package | 11:13 |
| hicham | didrocks: and the session/desktop files are in compiz package too? | 11:13 |
| didrocks | hicham: we basically activate a gconf profile which sets the unityshell plugin by default | 11:13 |
| didrocks | hicham: the sessions are in gnome-session | 11:14 |
| hicham | didrocks: so compiz should be using the gconf backend ? | 11:16 |
| hicham | didrocks: instead of the default ccp one | 11:16 |
| didrocks | hicham: instead of init you mean | 11:16 |
| didrocks | (ccp load init or gconf) | 11:16 |
| didrocks | hicham: just create a compiz profile init or gconf with unityshell by default in it | 11:17 |
| didrocks | hicham: we choosed gconf for natty | 11:17 |
| zniavre | didrocks, i already changed the messaging menu icons i ll fill report this afternoon thank you | 11:20 |
| didrocks | zniavre: thanks to you :) | 11:21 |
| hicham | didrocks: which package provides unity.pc file ? | 11:22 |
| didrocks | hicham: libunity, it's a binding that application can implement to interact with the launcher | 11:23 |
| didrocks | like setting progress bar, icon urgency | 11:23 |
| hicham | didrocks: thanks, I am sorry if I am asking too much questions | 11:23 |
| didrocks | hicham: no worry, I may not be so responsive every time though :-) | 11:24 |
| dbarth | jbache: hi; you should ping Kaleo or agateau for example (well, they're pinged now ;) | 11:32 |
| jbache | dbarth: Thanks. I just pinged kaleo | 11:33 |
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| agateau | dbarth: jbache: what is the question? | 11:46 |
| jbache | agateau: I am wondering about theming integration. Since I already do something similar with qml and gtk. | 11:48 |
| jbache | agateau: also plans with regards to scenegraph etc. You already support translucency so why no drop shadows? | 11:49 |
| jbache | agateau: some context http://labs.qt.nokia.com/2011/03/10/qml-components-for-desktop/ | 11:50 |
| jbache | agateau: also if you need any specific things from qt qt the moment | 11:50 |
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| agateau | jbache: primary target for unity-2d was machine without much gfx power so we did not spend too much time on adding visual effects | 11:53 |
| agateau | jbache: about needing something from qt, yes we need review for this: | 11:54 |
| agateau | jbache: https://live.gnome.org/ThreePointOne/Features/ApplicationMenu | 11:54 |
| agateau | oups | 11:54 |
| agateau | wrong url :) | 11:54 |
| jbache | agateau: hehe | 11:54 |
| agateau | jbache: https://qt.gitorious.org/qt/qt/merge_requests/916/ | 11:54 |
| jbache | agateau: I'll see what I can do | 11:55 |
| jbache | agateau: are there any valid technical reason why you couldnt essentially use qml for unity itself? | 11:56 |
| agateau | jbache: unity-3d you mean? | 11:58 |
| jbache | agateau: yes | 12:01 |
| jbache | agateau: it seems rather simple to extend it to support those graphical effects | 12:01 |
| agateau | jbache: i'd let dbarth answer this one | 12:02 |
| * jbache senses it is not the first time the question came up | 12:05 | |
| lucazade | ping om26er ... i've updated bug 696427 because I still get it | 12:55 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 696427 in unity (Ubuntu) "Unity visual glitches and freeze (libgl1-dri-mesa-experimental)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/696427 | 12:55 |
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| zniavre | didrocks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/759719 (sorry for english ) | 13:06 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 759719 in unity "(request)small blue triangle un-visible for colour-blind people" [Undecided,New] | 13:06 |
| hicham | didrocks: I installed unity-places-applications and now I can find my applications :) | 13:06 |
| didrocks | hicham: nice :) | 13:08 |
| didrocks | zniavre: I'm adding some design task so that designers can have a look | 13:08 |
| zniavre | thank you | 13:08 |
| didrocks | zniavre: no worry on the english btw, it's better than mine :) | 13:09 |
| zniavre | :o) | 13:14 |
| AnAnt | Hello, how can I add software categories in Unity's application browser ? I've got extra-xdg-menus installed , yet I don't see the Electronics category for example | 13:18 |
| hicham | didrocks: it would have been nice to have mono as optional build dep, instead of hard-depending on it :( | 13:24 |
| didrocks | hicham: mono is a theme name | 13:25 |
| hicham | didrocks: no, i mean mono (.Net clone) | 13:26 |
| didrocks | hicham: where is it a dep? | 13:26 |
| hicham | didrocks: libappindicator for example ( it is only a build dep, not a runtime dep) | 13:27 |
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| didrocks | hicham: well, indicator is for kenvandine and tedg | 13:27 |
| didrocks | I think it's for generating some mono bindings | 13:28 |
| hicham | didrocks: what part do you develop ? | 13:29 |
| didrocks | hicham: unity itself | 13:29 |
| hicham | didrocks: thanks for the great job ! | 13:30 |
| didrocks | yw, all the team does :) | 13:30 |
| hicham | I hope unity will get into fedora sometime | 13:31 |
| hicham | there is no real blocker for now | 13:31 |
| hicham | I am surprised by how big it is | 13:32 |
| hicham | I have installed 12 packages now for basic functionality | 13:32 |
| didrocks | hicham: yeah, it's very modular | 13:34 |
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| hicham | didrocks: how can I load newly installed indicators without restarting unity ? | 15:10 |
| didrocks | hicham: you can't right now unfortunately | 15:10 |
| AnAnt | am I asking in the right place ? | 15:15 |
| mirac | hello | 15:17 |
| mirac | I liked the interface naty | 15:18 |
| mirac | Ubuntu how can I support ? | 15:18 |
| mirac | Ubuntu how can I support ? | 15:19 |
| aquarius | RAOF, ping? | 15:36 |
| aquarius | ah, man, RAOF's in australia, isn't he? | 15:37 |
| hicham | didrocks: where ubuntu_gtk_widget_set_has_grab is defined ? | 16:03 |
| didrocks | hicham: it's a gtk patch (backported from gtk3.0) | 16:08 |
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| hicham | didrocks: bad news, indicator-datetime won't work in fedora | 16:28 |
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| hicham | indicator-datetime works | 18:47 |
| hicham | but I can't seem to bet the menu on the panel | 18:47 |
| henridv | hi all | 18:52 |
| henridv | I'm new to unity hacking, and i'm looking on how to obtain the icon height in the launcher? | 18:53 |
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| NateW | anyone from the design team around? | 19:26 |
| NateW | well, when an application is asking for attention. in the dash, the arrow turns blue showing that it needs attention. | 19:29 |
| NateW | that is way too subtle in some cases. | 19:30 |
| NateW | when im working, I usually don't wear my glasses and I have a 1920x1080 screen on a 15" laptop. this makes it almost impossible to tell which application is asking for attention | 19:30 |
| NateW | instead, the app icon in the launcher should pulsate or do some sort of animation to make it more distinguishable | 19:31 |
| nhaines | NateW: it does this for 1-2 seconds, then it turns blue after that. | 19:33 |
| Saamm | can someone help me out...I made a custom launcher and changed icon image...but unity only shows default custom launcher image :( | 19:33 |
| NateW | what turns blue? and also, the launcher is usually hidden because of a maximized window | 19:34 |
| NateW | rhaines: this is what it is like for me. launcher is hidden, a blue triangle appears at the top left, i reveal the launcher and then have to search for what application is asking for attention | 19:35 |
| nhaines | NateW: the little arrow turns blue. When the launcher is hidden, the icon still slides out and shakes. | 19:36 |
| NateW | you shouldn't have to look for the application | 19:36 |
| NateW | it doesnt slide out here | 19:36 |
| nhaines | The easiest way to demonstrate this is to have Firefox in the background, then click on a hyperlink in another window. | 19:36 |
| jbicha | yes, I agree the blue arrow & the blue triangle are too small & subtle | 19:37 |
| NateW | nhaines: that works.. but as an example, i was using firefox, and when you sent a message through irc here, empathy didnt pop out and shake | 19:37 |
| nhaines | I wouldn't mind seeing a background color pulse similar to the fade-in and -out when you launch an app. | 19:38 |
| NateW | thats what i'd like | 19:38 |
| nhaines | NateW: that is by design in Empathy, I believe... the expected user behavior is to use the Messaging Menu. | 19:38 |
| NateW | the messaging icon didnt turn blue either | 19:39 |
| nhaines | I think applications can denote "notification" and "urgent notification" seperately. | 19:39 |
| NateW | but back to the point i was originally bringing up.. there should be a bigger effect in the launcher | 19:39 |
| NateW | such as the app backlight pulsing | 19:39 |
| nhaines | NateW: file a bug and post it here. I'll chime in and confirm it. | 19:40 |
| NateW | sure. | 19:40 |
| NateW | Here is the bug. Hopefully it's straight forward enough: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/760103 | 19:45 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 760103 in unity "Attention notification in the Unity launcher is too subtle" [Undecided,New] | 19:45 |
| NateW | nhaines: ^^ | 19:50 |
| nhaines | NateW: thanks! | 19:54 |
| nhaines | NateW: now we'll see what happens. | 19:56 |
| NateW | nhaines: hopefully this gets fixed. it would make my life easier | 19:57 |
| nhaines | NateW: I hear you. I'm campaigning for 740515 myself. | 19:59 |
| nhaines | Err, that's bug 740515. | 19:59 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 740515 in unity (Ubuntu) "Window controls in Unity panel do not extend to top of display" [Low,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/740515 | 19:59 |
| NateW | that would also be nice | 20:02 |
| NateW | but i usually find myself using alt+f4 for exiting, and using the grid plugin for maximizing and i dont minimize | 20:03 |
| nhaines | I usually do Alt-Space, x to maxmize/unmaximize. | 20:03 |
| nhaines | But if I'm mousing around by the Application Menua anyway, it'd be nice. | 20:04 |
| kim0 | Guys bug 750464 has been proposed for merging with bug 486154, but they don't seem the same to me | 20:25 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 750464 in unity (Ubuntu) "beep sound is muted under unity (dup-of: 486154)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/750464 | 20:25 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 486154 in metacity (Ubuntu) "System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486154 | 20:25 |
| ubot5 | Launchpad bug 486154 in metacity (Ubuntu) "System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/486154 | 20:25 |
| kim0 | Unity by design doesn't handle xkb bell event .. while the old bug was about metacity having problems emitting a beep sound | 20:26 |
| Saamm | is there a way to minimize pulse time on unity launcher? | 20:38 |
| Saamm | I have dragged a custom launcher on unity launcher...once i click it, it keep on pulsating for 5 seconds so I cannot do two clicks in succession. How to solce this? | 20:41 |
| RAOF | aquarius: Correct! 00:36 is not a good time to get me :) | 23:48 |
| kais58 | what would the equivelant of "gnome-session-save --logout" be for unity? | 23:59 |
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