=== ironfroggy__ is now known as ironfroggy === ubuntu is now known as jill-mom === yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:16] Hello :) Want recommendation on what to and how to turn off unneeded features in Kubuntu. Can I uninstall or disable "plasma", desktop search? [01:19] what_if: you can disable plasma and nepomuk ( search ) [01:20] search won't have too much impact [01:20] if you aren't running plasma then you won't have any task bar / anything other than the window decorations [01:21] Mase_wk: hmm, need the task bar. perhaps I'll just disable the search [01:21] plasma is not very resource intensive [01:22] Mase_wk: just trying to get my laptop (Specifically X) to use less than 80% cpu [01:23] what_if: there is little point in disalbe the search.. it isnt very intensive or used at all if your not searching :) what you might want to do is turn off indexing [01:23] what_if: your laptop shouldn't be at 80% [01:23] have a look and see what process it is [01:23] what_if: no ^^ 80% sounds like something horribally wrong :S [01:23] Mase_wk: I agree it is wrong. Fresh install too [01:23] if it's saying it's X then what it means is that it is an X application. Krunner has a taskmanager [01:24] use that [01:24] what_if: what version of kubuntu and kde? [01:24] 10.04.2LTS Ubuntu with whatever KDE4 is their default [01:25] what_if: I would advise upgrading ^^ or at least testing a livecd... [01:25] James147: can't upgrade to a non LTS, unfortunately [01:25] what_if: why not/ [01:26] James147: This is for an "emergency go-kit" laptop. LTS was specified [01:28] Currently I'm switching the display driver from the ati to the vesa one. Will see if that fixes or helps [01:34] What error is it when the colors are all wrong on a laptop display? Green and purple halos around everything, grainy desktop image. Hew, the CPU usage issue is gone though [01:35] nfi === eddie is now known as Guest85174 === dark is now known as Guest97809 [02:12] I use Konversation. When I right-click the channel name in the tab bar on the left, nothing happens. When I right click in the chat window I get the context menu as usual. But I'm pretty sure there's supposed to be a context menu for channel tabs. What am I missing? [02:16] LogicallyDashing: yeah, there's meant to be a right-click context menu for channel tabs. works for me [02:19] i'm having problem adding a network printer via cups probably since my password contains some special characters. any help? [02:21] frogonwheels: any idea where in the settings I might turn that on? [02:22] LogicallyDashing: you could trying positioning them at the top and see if that changes things? [02:23] frogonwheels: nope [03:16] hello [03:16] ciao === marco is now known as Guest73196 === Guest73196 is now known as marco__ [04:34] Hey, I was trying to upgrade to the latest Natty and the installer stalled at the ms-font installer dialog [04:35] can i still resume the installation? [04:35] or is it too messy? [04:41] I just tried an install of the natty daily build and it does not look good, it didn't past the initail menu... [06:01] OK, there is something goings screwey with the natty rbranch [06:01] >.< [06:02] Its using up 4gb of memory, on idle and it is using 1gb of memory on my netbook. [06:02] Something is leaking.. HARD. >.> I'm not sure how I can try and find the issue to report it though [06:30] navatwo: natty support in #ubuntu+1 but you could try and see what RES field says for apps in top or htop output [06:33] Tm_T: already there [06:34] fx4 has 500mb >.< [06:34] The numbers do not appear to add up though [06:34] navatwo: how do you measure the mem usage in overall? [06:35] navatwo: see what " free -m | grep buffers " says [06:37] Tm_T: total used free shared buffers cached [06:37] -/+ buffers/cache: 1652 2307 [06:37] Tm_T: top says I have next to nothing though [06:38] Tm_T: total used free shared buffers cached [06:38] Mem: 4054956k total, 3580964k used, 473992k free, 80480k buffers [06:38] meant to paste the second line >.< [06:39] navatwo: ah, so all is just fine then, you have 1,6 GiB used for apps, rest is just buffers and cache [06:39] Yes, but why is Top saying otherwise? [06:40] also why is everything crawling and tweaking out >.< [06:40] navatwo: to me it looks like top is saying the same, it's not saying about cache though [07:28] NEED HELP PLEASE. accidently deleted jasper jpeg-2000 library and now it won't even boot! [07:35] mimi2: hmm? [07:35] more info please [07:40] uninstalled jasper by accident. reinstalled it immediately after but nothing worked. decided to reboot but now it won't even boot [07:40] mimi2: What do you mean it won't boot? [07:40] the computer won't turn on? [07:44] it hangs just before login [07:48] mimi2: ... just before login? [07:48] Before you see the login screen? or before KDE loads? [07:49] login [07:49] i see the kubuntu logo where it thinks [07:49] mimi2: ah ok so you are ok then. What happens when you press Esc there? [07:50] it goes into terminal... last line read checking battery [07:50] checking battery eh? [07:50] can you press enter? [07:50] or Ctrl+C [07:51] no [07:51] if i hit escape it goes back to the logo [08:08] mimi2: can you press alt+ctrl+f1 ? [08:08] turned box off [08:11] mimi2: ok when you turn it back on you should get a notice at the start saying press any key for menu in 5 4 3 2 1 [08:11] something to that effect [08:11] press a button and then press e to edit the boot line [08:12] If I recall correctly you press it again then you can edit the boot command [08:12] at the end of the line type the word 'single' then press ctrl-x [08:12] you will get an interface where you can reinstall jpeg-2000 [08:13] really? [08:13] i was looking to chroot to reinstall === punjabibecks is now known as bubble_ [08:14] hi, is it reasonable to install Kubuntu Natty beta? I need to change my distro [08:15] and I would like a very recent one === epzil0n_ is now known as epzil0n [08:16] annma: I had and still have quite some problems with it, it chokes on grub mostly [08:16] ouch [08:16] so maybe it's not the wisest [08:17] I have a 10.10 CD [08:17] maybe I can try to install it and see from there [08:17] annma: what is it? [08:17] not seeing where you got that dask [08:17] mimi2: really [08:18] it takes ages anyway to download an iso here [08:18] Daskreech: what is what? [08:18] mimi2: you don't get a note at the very start to say press to see menu? [08:18] annma: Oh never mind. Natty. Thought you were looking at somethign specific [08:19] I always used rpm-based distros so I am a bit fearful of .deb [08:20] annma: how so? [08:20] everything is different [08:20] Have you used Yum? [08:20] no [08:21] Ah [08:21] I mostly do things on command line anyway [08:21] well I think you will like the debian way [08:21] yum is command line :) [08:21] I used Mandriva since I started on Linux [08:21] It's the same as apt-get [08:21] ah so you have used urpmi ? [08:21] Daskreech: it's not about liking [08:21] it's about time to set up my system [08:22] I don't want spending days on having a trunk running [08:22] which do i pick? root, kernel? to add the single to? [08:23] mimi2: kernel at the very end of the line [08:23] annma: oh so why do you want Natty then? [08:23] sounds like you are trying to get into what you are tryin to avoid [08:24] because it would have all the latest dependencies [08:24] for building master [08:24] do i type single then ctrl x or hit enter first before crtl x [08:24] my main problem is that mandriva lacks behind trunk for a lot of dependencies [08:25] now it says something ro quiet single [08:25] annma: why not using debian sid then? [08:26] debian has too much learning path for repos [08:26] and I always heard that debian was also very conservative [08:26] true, that. but if you want an upt-to-date system in Kubuntu you will need to add the various kubuntu PPAs [08:27] going to hit enter then ctrl x [08:28] did nothing === _BS__ is now known as _BS_ === _BS_ is now known as Guest44999 === Guest44999 is now known as _BS_-NOT [08:34] maybe I should wait for Natty to be out then [08:35] hi annma, others [08:35] trunk will be stabilized for dependencies [08:35] hi Tm_T [08:36] daskreech, it looks like i have previous kernel versions? can i just boot into one of them and install from there? [08:36] mimi2: not of jpeg200 is really causing a login issue [08:36] i noticed -_- [08:36] mimi2: You can just boot into something normally and then press alt+ctrl+F1 if you don't want to parameter hack [08:37] so i can just install via a previous version? [08:37] annma: which trunk? [08:37] mimi2: of what? [08:37] kernel [08:38] boot menu is giving me multiple options [08:38] to boot to. including recovery mode. maybe i boot into recovery and install there? [08:40] or maybe chroot via live cd [08:40] Daskreech: kde trunk!!! [08:40] Daskreech: I develop on kde [08:40] which is the problem [08:40] if I was anormal user I would get 10.10 and be happy [08:40] annma: :) just checking. [08:41] mimi2: that would work try recovery mode [08:41] and install from there? [08:41] annma: perhaps you would like to talk to the development team for Kubuntu? [08:42] a number of them are upstream developers you can ask how their workflow with Kubuntu works [08:42] mimi2: yes [08:42] Daskreech: I think I would like to talk to someone having kubuntu and developing on kde trunk [08:42] annam, you do? then can you please have the amarok people add a function to count the number of songs in library [08:42] annma: I just said that :) [08:42] mimi2: I don't develop on amarok [08:42] mimi2: You can do that yourself [08:42] the development team for kubuntu is not the kde devel team [08:43] I don't even use amarok as I can't build it ;) [08:43] chicken-egg [08:43] annma: I know that but some of them do a lot of upstream work [08:43] dask, what do i pick? normal boot, netroot, etc [08:43] there's 10? options! [08:43] apachelogger is well known. JontheEchidna is also doing a fair amount of work [08:44] he's the maintainer of the weather wallpaper [08:44] mimi2: What are they if you don't mind me asking? [08:44] yeah I know apachelogger and Riddell :) [08:44] and Riddell of course :) [08:44] Huggable bear [08:44] polar bear. Probably in that club :) [08:45] Exception: apachelogger is undefined [08:45] I saw you did a session about KAppTemplate apachelogger [08:45] resume, clean, dpkg, failsafex, grub, netroot, root [08:45] actuall KDE Q+A, JontheEchidna was supposed to talk about KAppTemplate but couldnt make it [08:46] ah [08:46] mimi2: netroot should work [08:46] that gets me to terminal i think? [08:46] ye [08:46] i guess i do aptget from there? [08:47] then you typ,, yes :) [08:47] what's the command? apt-get jasper? [08:48] sudo apt-get install libjasper1 ? [08:48] what about dependencies? [08:50] problem. it says it's already newest version. nothing installed or upgraded [08:50] what dependencies do i need? [08:51] mimi2: it will auto install dependencies it needs [08:51] um [08:51] then it installed nothing [08:51] says i alreayd have newest [08:51] then jasper1 isn't your problem [08:51] >.< [08:51] then what is? [08:52] it broke after i uninstalled jasper [08:52] i did nothing else [08:52] at what point is the boot stopping? [08:53] after the uninstall, nothing would run. i could no longer open a picture via gwenview. and when i click on an icon to open a program like firefox, nothing would happen [08:53] can you type service kdm start ? [08:53] the logo [08:53] that's all? [08:53] it says kdm start running [08:54] the logo where it thinks. has the dots that run left to right and back and so on [08:54] just before you get to login [08:55] mimi2: I think that you may have turned off something else [08:55] such as? [08:55] I don't know. [08:55] can you apt-get install pastebinit [08:56] done [08:56] what's your normal username? [08:57] why? [08:57] trying to get your history of last commands [08:57] ? [08:57] how? [08:57] Though you probably removed it with kpackagekit huh ? [08:59] when i uninstalled, it removed a lot of dependencies and i tried to cancel but there was no way so i said i just reinstall as soon as it's done. it looked like it reinstalled but nothing would run [09:00] mimi2: oh ha ok [09:00] ok I had win7 and ubuntu duel boot, and was trying to get netbook edition to work 10.10 but it failed then it wouldnt load anything, so installed 10.10 side by side and now i figured how to fix the original 10.10 how to i get back to the first w7 and 10.10, and remove the second 10.10 from grub [09:01] pastebinit /var/log/dpkg [09:01] icons for programs under menu were replaced with question marks. like pcitures were no longer supported [09:01] so i rebooted and here we are [09:01] hey did anyone found da way to install guest additions in ubuntu 11.04 in da right way???? [09:02] i mean while running ubuntu 11.04 as a guest in virtualbox [09:02] unable to read [09:03] pastebinit /var/log/dpkg.log [09:03] vikash_: ask in #vbox [09:03] bt how to open it [09:04] frm where to access this [09:04] gave me an url [09:05] mimi2: can you copy that url here? [09:05] vikash_: click on the blue words [09:05] http://pastebin.com/javxjjhp [09:07] log is blank [09:07] mimi2: I'm seeing that [09:07] how is that ? [09:08] beats me :? [09:08] vikash_ why not just install 11.04 in the vhbox [09:08] because i am in recovery? [09:09] mimi2: doi... hm [09:09] what does mount say [09:09] none on at lot of stuff [09:10] but my 2 hdds are mounted [09:10] ok [09:10] where to? [09:10] /? [09:10] usual [09:10] ok [09:11] looks like / is mounted too [09:12] well I need a log of what you removed [09:12] jasper [09:12] mimi2: apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [09:12] are you serious? [09:12] yes [09:12] ... [09:12] um [09:13] whoa [09:13] it's asking to install a lot of stuff [09:13] looks like kde stuff.... [09:14] going to say yes.... [09:15] so uninstalling jasper, uninstalls the entire desktop???? [09:17] ok. all done. now what? [09:21] daskreech? [09:29] mimi2: service kdm stop [09:30] >.< [09:30] already rebooted [09:30] mimi2: and? [09:30] it boots [09:30] mimi2: you are welcome [09:30] looks like i lost all my "settings" [09:30] firefox is no longer installed [09:31] that's not a setting that's a program [09:31] but yes, it boots. THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU [09:31] i mean, looks like everything got installed [09:31] amarok is 2.0 [09:31] even though i had 1 [09:32] so uninstalling jasper uninstalls the entire desktop [09:32] pretty crazy [09:32] possibly [09:32] i hate amarok 2 so much [09:32] but i can "fix" it from here [09:32] who are you by the way? =P so expertly knowledgable [09:33] someone who hangs out here a lot [09:33] you don't develop? [09:33] Not in kdE [09:33] then what? [09:34] personal projects [09:34] oh ok === _BS_-NOT is now known as _BS_ [09:35] mimi2: enjoy [09:35] THANK YOU. i should hang around here like you === _BS_ is now known as _BS_-NOT [09:35] you probably should ;) === _BS_-NOT is now known as _BS_ [09:35] what does it mean if when I "ls -alh" a directory, I see a bunch of question marks instead of permissions (for . and .. dirs)? [09:36] what is an .. dir? [09:37] Daskreech: . is current dir, .. is parent dir (when listed in any directory with -a) [09:38] I ran a fsck on reboot too, and I still get "d????????? ? ? ? ? ? ." and "d????????? ? ? ? ? ? .." [09:38] i used to hang around ~_~ === mon_ is now known as Ziltoid === Ziltoid is now known as Ziltoid83 [09:43] I'm running 10.10 but it's on a machine that doesn't cope well with it [09:43] amichair: sounds like serious filesystem corruption [09:43] what's the simplest way to downgrade [09:43] and can you recommend something that will be running at its optimum on the machine I'm using? [09:43] Ziltoid83: install 9.10 [09:44] Ziltoid83: or altlinux [09:44] I'm running a laptop wth 700mb ram and an athlon processor [09:44] anybody? [10:17] please help me. HOW TO INSTALL GDE? [10:18] murali: gde? [10:18] murali: wth is ti ? [10:18] gnome desktop environment [10:19] http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Install-GNOME-3-on-Ubuntu-11-04-194085.shtml Should be close enough [10:19] murali: this is kubuntu channel [10:19] #ubuntu [10:19] yes, i want to install gnome desktop in kubuntu itself [10:20] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-destkop [10:20] that's all [10:21] Peace: error: Couldn't find package ubuntu-destkop [10:22] sudo apt-get update [10:22] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-destkop [10:23] <_BS_> Help please. Trying to config wireless. Gone in circles. Don't know which way is up any more. Netgear WNDA3100, usb. 10.04 lts. I can see wlan0 in ifconfig. Gave up on knet. Hit refresh on wicd, keeps going back to wired. Help please. [10:23] its downloading some files [10:24] _BS_: first [10:24] _BS_: what did you do before? [10:24] wicd? [10:25] Peace: still same error message [10:25] <_BS_> I have done so many things, so many days ago, I can't tell you any more. Frustration with default kde nt manager sent me looking for an alternative. wicd is a different net manager. Remind me what comes by default and I'll try to get back to square one. For a long time I could not see wlan0 - but didn't discover that for a while. Now see wlan0, need to start fresh, properly. [10:26] murali: [10:26] sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop [10:26] [sudo] password for ecchimequa: [10:26] Reading package lists... Done [10:26] Building dependency tree [10:26] Peace-: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. [10:26] Reading state information... Done [10:26] murali: you have some mess on repository [10:27] !repository | murali fix you source-list [10:27] murali fix you source-list: The packages in Kubuntu are divided into various sections. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Kubuntu - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [10:27] ok Peace. WAt shud i do now? [10:27] _BS_: ok i have written here , some stuff [10:27] _BS_: you could try to read this .... [10:28] _BS_: read all the article http://nowardev.wordpress.com/2010/05/15/network-management-disabled-after-suspend-to-ram-kubuntu-10-04/ [10:29] <_BS_> Note: Would rather switch adapters than go ndiswrapper. Will look at link, but I don't suspend to anything, let alone ram. (Just in case it matters.) [10:29] _BS_: read anyway i am nowardev [10:30] _BS_: btw you can paaste [10:30] _BS_: iwconfig [10:30] what does it say? [10:44] <_BS_> BTW - what happen to ability to right-click menu item and choose 'put in command', 'run as admin', etc., etc. [10:44] <_BS_> iwconfig says lo/eth2/irda0/eth3: no wireless extensions. wlan0 looks reasonable. Just a minute. [10:49] please help me. HOW TO INSTALL Gnome Desktop [10:49] install ubuntu-desktop, murali [10:49] murali: and #ubuntu [10:49] command please [10:50] !gnome [10:50] GNOME is the default !desktop environment on Ubuntu. To install it from Kubuntu or Xubuntu, type « sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » in a !terminal. [10:50] murali: ^^^ [10:51] you can do !gnome | user next time, FWIW [10:51] Thank you very much [10:52] <_BS_> Peace-: http://paste.ubuntu.com/593507/ [10:52] I know, APERSON, but I always forget [10:52] until I'm half-done [10:52] lol [10:52] <_BS_> Peasce-: Link no help. === _BS__ is now known as _BS_ === _BS_ is now known as _BS_-NOT === _BS_-NOT is now known as _BS_ [10:59] <_BS_> There is just something basic/weird in the wi-fi at the moment. e.g. Network manager only shows wired network. There is no wireless 'tab' to choose. [11:12] Hello! I need help in offline installing multimedia codecs on kubuntu 10.10 [11:12] Please help me anybody. I can't recognize how to do it [11:13] There are a lot of docs in internet but they describe synaptics or kubuntu older then 10.10 [11:17] <_BS_> OK, I don't know why, but it understands there's wireless out there now. It is finally finding some networks. Question: Why is it always disconnecting wired network when searching wireless - surely it can use multiple network 'cards'. [11:19] _BS_: hi i am here now [11:20] user12: ok [11:20] !restrictedformats | user12 [11:20] user12: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/10.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats [11:20] !medibuntu | user12 [11:20] user12: medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org [11:20] _BS_: are you there? [11:21] <_BS_> Peace-: Hey. You have messages, i.e. your irc stayed up / no lost messages / you can/will catch up when you chew through the traffic? [11:22] _BS_: so what's your problem now? [11:22] _BS_: i suggest to install wicd-kde [11:22] Peace- : I need offline installing. How can I do it? [11:22] offline on Kubuntu, no ubuntu [11:22] I have not synaptics [11:22] you need basically to [11:23] add medibuntu repository [11:23] then [11:23] sudo apt-get install kubuntu-restricted-extras [11:23] <_BS_> Peace-: At the moment, working through getting a connection to my router. Bear with me. In meantime: Why is attempt to connect to wireless causing wired to be disconnected - surely multiple 'nics' can connect simultaneiously. [11:23] <_BS_> Peace-: wicd is what I said I was running before you posted link to look at, and your first question was: wicd? [11:23] yea [11:24] but i have said now [11:24] wicd-kde [11:24] yex.... [11:24] user12: packages are saved in this folder [11:24] /var/cache/apt/archives [11:25] yes.... [11:25] <_BS_> Peace-: There is no wicd-kde. However, there is the wicd metapackage that includes all necessary components. wicd is up and running. Not connecting to anything ... but that's a different story. Working on it. [11:25] so if you need to save restricted packages and use them in another computer you have only to copy and paste them from a pc where you have network [11:25] to a pc offline [11:26] no...... [11:26] _BS_: i need to understand better you computer [11:26] your problems [11:26] because i understood you can use wifi right now!? [11:26] okay...... [11:26] Peace-, I haven't ubuntu on online PCs. I have gentoo and winxp online [11:27] user12: wtf this is kubuntu channels [11:27] user12: ask to #gentoo then + [11:27] omg kids [11:27] <_BS_> Peace-: Bear with me for a moment while I figure out where I'm at. wlan0 is now present, networks are being found, it is trying to connect to my router. Working through connection issues at moment, e.g. choosing right wpa2 personal password, etc., in client. In meantime: why does attempt to use wi-fi cause wired to go down? [11:27] good by.... [11:28] <_BS_> This notification widget is going to drive me bonkers. [11:29] _BS_: well this is how it works [11:29] i guess in the most of itme [11:29] you can get only an ip [11:29] i guess [11:29] you need to interfaces to be connected with router? [11:29] 2/to [11:30] here when i try to connect with ethernet wifi goes down [11:30] and vice versa [11:31] Peace, thank you [11:34] <_BS_> Peace-: It is not how it works, at least 'til now. What I mean is, in all my playing in the past / various *buntu's, multiple links are always possible. e.g. eth0 and wlan0. e.g. Stick 2 pci network cards is pretty normal. Now, I'm not saying 10.04 hasn't changed things, nor that the current gui interfaces haven't introduced this behaviour as normal, but it is goody and new to me. Irritating, unex [11:34] <_BS_> pected, and thus, I asked. Granted - in *most* situations, it's what you want. I'll guess this is the whole ease of use/automation effort - Leave your wired network, auto connect to a hotspot, come home, auto-connect to home, etc., etc. Sorry, I'll stop whining now. [11:36] _BS_: :S whining or not whining if something doesn't work i know how you could feel === NaN is now known as Guest31195 [11:37] anyway the most important thing is to be into internet at least with an interface [11:38] <_BS_> Peace-: Frustrated. Bad password. Repeatedly entered password here and into router. No go. Router SSID currently not being hidden. Using WPA-PSK/WPA2-PSK Mixed Mode. Net is now showing up in Wicd Network Manager. Chose WPA 1/2 (Preshared Key). Bad password. [11:39]