| MrChrisDruif | Go go go go go go go! :D | 00:00 |
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| cprofitt | #startmeeting | 00:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 18:00. The chair is cprofitt. | 00:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 00:00 |
| cprofitt | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings | 00:00 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BeginnersTeam/Meetings | 00:00 |
| cprofitt | meeting url | 00:00 |
| cprofitt | for agenda | 00:00 |
| cprofitt | welcome to the UBT team meeting | 00:00 |
| cprofitt | all UBT members who are here please say present | 00:00 |
| MrChrisDruif | gift | 00:01 |
| cprofitt | all UBT members who are here please say present | 00:01 |
| tenach | present. | 00:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | Presen | 00:01 |
| MrChrisDruif | t | 00:01 |
| cprofitt | well... this does not appear to be a good turnout | 00:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | Hmmm, not really no | 00:02 |
| tenach | : | 00:02 |
| tenach | :/ | 00:02 |
| ddecator | present | 00:02 |
| MrChrisDruif | Including chair 4 people? | 00:03 |
| cprofitt | yes | 00:03 |
| cprofitt | Lets give another few minutes for folks to show up | 00:04 |
| cprofitt | one more | 00:04 |
| charlie-tca | present | 00:04 |
| cprofitt | two more | 00:05 |
| cprofitt | welcome jledbetter and charlie-tca | 00:05 |
| * jledbetter waves. Sorry, work, etc. | 00:05 | |
| cprofitt | no problem | 00:05 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright, no problem jledbetter :) | 00:05 |
| cprofitt | well,... lets get the meeting off the ground | 00:05 |
| cprofitt | I will skep the first proposed topic as none of the new council members appear to be present | 00:06 |
| cprofitt | [TOPIC] new Documentation FG lead | 00:06 |
| MootBot | New Topic: new Documentation FG lead | 00:06 |
| cprofitt | The council has acted to temporarily fill the vacany in the Documentation Team with UndiFineD | 00:07 |
| cprofitt | He will fill the role of team lead until we hold an election | 00:07 |
| cprofitt | UndiFineD: is eligible to run for the position | 00:07 |
| MrChrisDruif | Who was the previous Doc Lead? | 00:07 |
| cprofitt | zkriesse | 00:08 |
| MrChrisDruif | Alright :) | 00:08 |
| ddecator | sounds good to me | 00:08 |
| cprofitt | the next topic was UndiFineD's topic | 00:08 |
| cprofitt | there was quite an extensive discussion on the mailing list about various parts of it | 00:08 |
| cprofitt | [TOPIC] Improving the BT | 00:08 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Improving the BT | 00:08 |
| * ddecator wonders if he's not on the ML for some reason | 00:09 | |
| cprofitt | I think that as a team we will have to break each element down (on the mailing list) and then work towards having a poll to move forward with a team vote | 00:09 |
| cprofitt | the issues revolve around some negative conotations concerning the words padawan and master | 00:10 |
| MrChrisDruif | Team vote with 6 present? | 00:10 |
| cprofitt | and the relative lack of structure for membership | 00:10 |
| cprofitt | we will not vote here | 00:10 |
| cprofitt | we have not settled on what to vote for | 00:10 |
| cprofitt | I do want to frame the discussion a bit | 00:10 |
| cprofitt | I do not want to remove 'fun' from being on the team -- we are volunteers | 00:11 |
| MrChrisDruif | Agreed | 00:11 |
| cprofitt | I do not like that our current choice of labels apparently causes some offense | 00:11 |
| ddecator | so the idea is to formalize the process more? | 00:11 |
| cprofitt | so I think it would be good to gather some fun alternative names we could use | 00:11 |
| cprofitt | in place of Master / Padawan | 00:11 |
| jledbetter | fun, hehe | 00:11 |
| cprofitt | to be honest the whole concept of master / padawan is really not needed -- to me any member should be capable of guiding another person to be a member | 00:12 |
| cprofitt | it just takes a bit of time and knolwedge | 00:12 |
| cprofitt | but I can appreciate the enjoyment factor of having titles | 00:12 |
| MrChrisDruif | cprofitt: Yes, but not everybody wants to take time to do this. I liked having one fixed person | 00:12 |
| cprofitt | so I would like to ask everyone to research some 'titles' we can use w/o removing the fun | 00:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | I could talk to when I had questions | 00:13 |
| cprofitt | MrChrisDruif: I agree we need a one to one relationship | 00:13 |
| DarkwingDuck | lo | 00:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | I liked the Guide mentioned in the mailing-list | 00:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | Hai DarkwingDuck | 00:13 |
| jledbetter | Ditto on guide. That's not "fun" though but I like it all the same:) | 00:13 |
| MrChrisDruif | However...Student doesn't do it for me | 00:13 |
| cprofitt | [action] consider alternative names -- gather some options and suggest them on the mailing list with an eye towards voting next meeting | 00:14 |
| ddecator | Guide and Apprentice | 00:14 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: consider alternative names -- gather some options and suggest them on the mailing list with an eye towards voting next meeting | 00:14 |
| jledbetter | cprofitt, Should we mail the list with potential titles? If so, by when? | 00:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | It refers to much to school | 00:14 |
| jledbetter | nm :) | 00:14 |
| MrChrisDruif | ddecator: +1 | 00:14 |
| charlie-tca | beginner; noobie | 00:14 |
| tenach | ddecator: I like that. | 00:14 |
| cprofitt | as far as teh suggested timeline and structure... | 00:14 |
| * MrChrisDruif suggested it already on the mailing-list ;) | 00:14 | |
| cprofitt | I have to say that we are a team of volunteers | 00:14 |
| cprofitt | some of us have families, jobs and other obligations and those should be respected | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | and all levels of participation should be appreciated | 00:15 |
| ddecator | aye | 00:15 |
| charlie-tca | +1 | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | that said I do like the idea of developing a simple checklist of the basics | 00:15 |
| cprofitt | but the basics have never really been an issue... | 00:16 |
| cprofitt | it is the contributions / involvement in the community that is difficult to see at times | 00:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | I had a checklist when I was an Apprentice | 00:16 |
| ddecator | mainly because it can happen anywhere and we're not everywhere (individually) | 00:16 |
| * cprofitt nods | 00:16 | |
| cprofitt | +1 ddecator | 00:16 |
| MrChrisDruif | Support on IRC is difficult to measure | 00:17 |
| MrChrisDruif | Gave me some trouble getting membership :P | 00:17 |
| cprofitt | I do feel that having prospective members have to document their activity -- add examples to their wiki or get testimonials to be a worthwhile exercise | 00:17 |
| cprofitt | as it prepares them if they wish to eventually pursue Ubuntu Memberships | 00:18 |
| ddecator | plus it promotes good wiki hygiene | 00:18 |
| cprofitt | ddecator: +1 | 00:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | Indeed | 00:18 |
| MrChrisDruif | But some people love to edit their wiki and others just want to help | 00:18 |
| ddecator | adding examples to your wiki page shouldn't take long | 00:19 |
| cprofitt | I think we can vote on having structure -- and have the council work with the team to create a bit more structure | 00:19 |
| MrChrisDruif | And, again, putting IRC support on wiki is kinda tricky :P | 00:19 |
| ddecator | MrChrisDruif: true, but worst case, many of us log the channel and can grep the logs if we're skeptical | 00:19 |
| cprofitt | I do think that we need to tell people who give IRC support how they could document that... | 00:19 |
| cprofitt | there are areas that are difficult... and if we want them to count we need to give a guide on how to show that activity | 00:20 |
| cprofitt | any other comments on that? | 00:20 |
| ddecator | none so far | 00:20 |
| DarkwingDuck | documenting people you helped in IRC is hard | 00:21 |
| cprofitt | [vote]The UBT Countil in conjunction with the team should develop a potential structure docmuent for prospective members to follow. This document would then be adopted by a vote in a future meeting | 00:21 |
| MootBot | Please vote on: The UBT Countil in conjunction with the team should develop a potential structure docmuent for prospective members to follow. This document would then be adopted by a vote in a future meeting. | 00:21 |
| MootBot | Public votes can be registered by saying +1/-1/+0 in the channel, private votes by messaging the channel followed by +1/-1/+0 to MootBot | 00:21 |
| MootBot | E.g. /msg MootBot +1 #ubuntu-meeting | 00:21 |
| DarkwingDuck | documenting issues you helped with is simplier | 00:21 |
| cprofitt | +1 | 00:21 |
| MootBot | +1 received from cprofitt. 1 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 1 | 00:21 |
| charlie-tca | +1 | 00:22 |
| MootBot | +1 received from charlie-tca. 2 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 2 | 00:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | +1 | 00:22 |
| MootBot | +1 received from MrChrisDruif. 3 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 3 | 00:22 |
| ddecator | +1 | 00:22 |
| MootBot | +1 received from ddecator. 4 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 4 | 00:22 |
| DarkwingDuck | +1 | 00:22 |
| MootBot | +1 received from DarkwingDuck. 5 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 5 | 00:22 |
| jledbetter | +1 | 00:22 |
| MootBot | +1 received from jledbetter. 6 for, 0 against. 0 have abstained. Count is now 6 | 00:22 |
| cprofitt | any more votes? | 00:22 |
| cprofitt | last call for votes | 00:22 |
| MrChrisDruif | Note: correct spelling of course ;) | 00:22 |
| cprofitt | [endvote] | 00:22 |
| MootBot | Final result is 6 for, 0 against. 0 abstained. Total: 6 | 00:22 |
| jledbetter | hehe MrChrisDruif | 00:22 |
| cprofitt | [agreed]The UBT Countil in conjunction with the team should develop a potential structure docmuent for prospective members to follow. This document would then be adopted by a vote in a future meeting | 00:23 |
| MootBot | AGREED received: The UBT Countil in conjunction with the team should develop a potential structure docmuent for prospective members to follow. This document would then be adopted by a vote in a future meeting | 00:23 |
| cprofitt | any other topics? | 00:23 |
| ddecator | have a happy natty release everyone :) | 00:24 |
| DarkwingDuck | hehe | 00:24 |
| cprofitt | I do want to point out, as it has been an issue for some, that the vote we just took authorized the council to do some work. The council does not make decisions unless the team authorized it | 00:24 |
| cprofitt | alright since we have no more topics... I would like to go back to an original topic since DarkwingDuck is here | 00:25 |
| cprofitt | [topic]New council members - plans | 00:25 |
| MootBot | New Topic: New council members - plans | 00:25 |
| cprofitt | DarkwingDuck: please tell us some of your plans for the UBT | 00:25 |
| cprofitt | or things you would like to see | 00:25 |
| DarkwingDuck | well, ever since the Natty UDS i have wanted to see better interaction with the "main" devel teams in Ubuntu | 00:26 |
| MrChrisDruif | The document (which will me made with help from the team) will only be adopted with a vote. It was properly defined the vote :) | 00:26 |
| DarkwingDuck | either in docs, motu and others | 00:26 |
| ddecator | i wonder if our collaboration with the bugsquad can act as a guinea pig for this | 00:27 |
| * DarkwingDuck nods | 00:27 | |
| DarkwingDuck | im also in fairly deep with the guys who write the system docs | 00:27 |
| DarkwingDuck | not just kin kubuntu but all the docs | 00:28 |
| ddecator | that'd be a good thing for beginners to get involved with | 00:28 |
| DarkwingDuck | as a member of the documentation committers i would be more then happy to review and approve patches or docs | 00:29 |
| MrChrisDruif | system docs? As in man pages with programs? | 00:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | but, the intergration and maybe becoming a "traiining ground" is something i can see us doing | 00:29 |
| * ddecator nods | 00:29 | |
| cprofitt | DarkwingDuck: sounds like we need to get the Doc Committer team lead to approve you as a Mentor for documentation FG | 00:29 |
| DarkwingDuck | MrChrisDruif: and the help files that ship with the system | 00:30 |
| DarkwingDuck | cprofitt: im game now that the doc freeze for natty is in effect | 00:31 |
| DarkwingDuck | but, my plans are to take what ive learned in other teams and seeing how we can train people to move beyond the BT scope | 00:32 |
| MrChrisDruif | Good plan DarkwingDuck | 00:32 |
| ddecator | +1 | 00:32 |
| DarkwingDuck | and maybe even have new people who goto bug squad or motu teams get sent to us for training | 00:32 |
| * MrChrisDruif is distracted by #lubuntu channel | 00:32 | |
| DarkwingDuck | there is an untapped potential for training here and we are in the perfect position | 00:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | to fill a small void | 00:33 |
| DarkwingDuck | the BT helped me get ready for teams with deadlines and i think i can help pass that on | 00:34 |
| DarkwingDuck | small dreams. :) back to you cprofitt | 00:35 |
| cprofitt | thanks DarkwingDuck | 00:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | The whole of Ubuntu is deadline based | 00:36 |
| cprofitt | alright... I would like to thank everyone who attended the meeting tonight | 00:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | aye | 00:36 |
| cprofitt | Have a great night everyone | 00:36 |
| cprofitt | [endmeeting] | 00:36 |
| MrChrisDruif | Thanks cprofitt :) | 00:36 |
| cprofitt | #endmeeting | 00:36 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 18:36. | 00:36 |
| jledbetter | cprofitt, Thank you :) | 00:36 |
| DarkwingDuck | ? | 00:41 |
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| robbiew | o/ | 16:03 |
| barry | hi | 16:03 |
| mvo | hello | 16:03 |
| doko | hi | 16:04 |
| stgraber | hello | 16:04 |
| doko | was there a mumble before? didn't hear anything | 16:04 |
| stgraber | doko: yep | 16:04 |
| robbiew | doko: yup | 16:04 |
| robbiew | #startmeeting | 16:04 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:04. The chair is robbiew. | 16:04 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:04 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Lightning Round | 16:05 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Lightning Round | 16:05 |
| robbiew | barry? | 16:06 |
| barry | bug 748104 (django-ajax-selects ftbfs), bug 748089 (gmobilemedia ftbfs), bug 727649 (matplotlib ftbfs), bug 747236 and bug 719211 (apache-openid ftbfs & conversion to dh_python2), bug 717843 (python-imaging crasher), bug 752220 (aptdaemon import error), bug 759205 and bug 691841 (lazr.restful), bug 758037 (pyopenssl fix); python issue 11715 (python build on multiarch), pep 396; udd stakeholders meeting; app developer week class on | 16:06 |
| barry | unittesting. done. | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 748104 in django-ajax-selects (Ubuntu) "ftbfs with python2.7" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/748104 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 748089 in gmobilemedia (Ubuntu) "FTBFS in natty" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/748089 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 727649 in python2.7 (Ubuntu) "python2.7-dbg crashed with SIGSEGV in PyDict_GetItemString()" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727649 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 747236 in apache-openid (Ubuntu) "ftbfs with python2.7" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747236 | 16:06 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 719211 in apache-openid (Ubuntu) "import -c 'apache_openid' fails" [Undecided,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/719211 | 16:06 |
| robbiew | awesome...just what I like to see! | 16:07 |
| robbiew | thnx barry | 16:07 |
| robbiew | doko? | 16:07 |
| mvo | bugfixes, bugfixes, bugfixes! | 16:07 |
| doko | filed the remaining ftbfs reports (although lp times out showing them), fixing build failures, fix gcc-4.5 ftbfs (somebody turned on hard errors for pointer conversations on the buildds *after* the test rebuild), prepare and start gcc-4.6 test rebuild | 16:07 |
| doko | done | 16:07 |
| robbiew | mvo? | 16:09 |
| mvo | Apt-clone: review/merge lp:~ev/apt-clone/739489 (thanks!), rework protect_installed hanlding for restore-new-distro mode | 16:09 |
| mvo | Apt: fix bug when parsing --print-foreign-architectures output, merge fixes from debina-sid, upload new version, run unattended-upgrades even if apt-get update returned a error | 16:09 |
| mvo | Aptdaemon: prepare new upload, merge lp:~mvo/aptdaemon/relax-lintian-checks as distro patch, test, upload new version, merge fixes from juliank (thanks!) | 16:09 |
| mvo | Command-not-found: start extraction on frei, updated to include ports architectures (#533031) | 16:09 |
| mvo | Python-apt: perpare merge python-apt,review/merge changes by juliank (thanks!), test/merge multiarch patch | 16:09 |
| mvo | Rnr-server: send RT about http -> https redirect for the anoymous API | 16:09 |
| mvo | Softare-center: fix install-buy-something test, work with ISD, branch review/merges, look at crash (IOError) with multiprocessing and reviews, weblive work with stgraber | 16:09 |
| mvo | Synaptic: add basic multiarch support | 16:09 |
| mvo | Unattended-upgrades: add option to auto-fix interrupted dpkg runs, debug/fix crash with overly long control files (LP: #724994) | 16:09 |
| mvo | Update-maanger: uploading new version, add mini proxy to properly test the proxy download feature, ensure on EOL->EOL upgrade the users see a EOL release accountment text that warns about upgrading to a EOL page, merge lp:~evfool/update-manager/fix727069, work on end-of-life code, integrate new webpage, write some more formal tests, work on more reliable ssh detection (#744995), write debsums_lite.py post-upgrade test (not that useful unfort | 16:09 |
| mvo | unately as "locale" fails that test | 16:09 |
| mvo | (done) | 16:09 |
| robbiew | mvo: as usual...slacking | 16:10 |
| robbiew | :P | 16:10 |
| robbiew | thnx | 16:10 |
| * mvo pats his gtimelog logs | 16:10 | |
| robbiew | cjwatson: ? ...kidding :P | 16:11 |
| robbiew | jhunt? | 16:11 |
| jhunt | More Upstart Cookbook updates. Cleared inbox. Rest of time spent | 16:11 |
| jhunt | diagnosing another upstart chroot issue - taken a long time to determine | 16:11 |
| jhunt | that problem appears to be related to pbuilder/chroot build env. | 16:11 |
| jhunt | EOT | 16:11 |
| * robbiew <3 the upstart cookbook! | 16:12 | |
| robbiew | ev? | 16:12 |
| ev | Fixing bugs, and doing a lot of bug gardening. Ubiquity fixes: 726740, 759401, 758236, 652852, 745607, 757208, 752372, 751145, 744938, 745138, m-a: 739400, apt-clone: pushed pyflakes into the test harness and fixed some crasher bugs. Did my patch pilot time. Deep in bug 664533 at the moment. | 16:12 |
| ev | bam. | 16:12 |
| ev | done | 16:12 |
| robbiew | nice! | 16:12 |
| ev | thanks | 16:12 |
| * mvo hugs ev | 16:12 | |
| robbiew | psurbhi: ? | 16:13 |
| ev | there's a bit more than that actually | 16:13 |
| ev | but those are the ones with bug numbers | 16:13 |
| * ev hugs back | 16:13 | |
| ev | thanks for the merges | 16:13 |
| psurbhi | *) fixes two small code bugs in mountall | 16:13 |
| psurbhi | *) Added a private dbus server to mountall, tested - submitted for design/code review (spent some time here in debugging a mountall segfault in chroot, and the client app in initramfs - turned out to be a wrong job start clause :-/) | 16:13 |
| psurbhi | *) adding a test script to upstart - testing the test script. | 16:13 |
| psurbhi | (done) | 16:13 |
| robbiew | psurbhi: thx | 16:14 |
| robbiew | cjwatson? | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | Done: | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed livecd-rootfs regression caused by kernel perms change | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - Minor tweak to improve iSCSI installation, though something's still broken | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed rootskel kernel detection on VMware (745947) | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - apt-setup re-disable partner (744982) | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - Fixed rescue-mode on btrfs | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - Various GRUB backports, esp. btrfs; add grub-mount to improve os-prober | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - OEM locale handling (741304) | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | - gfxpayload blacklisting tweaks (757603, 758328) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | - Ubiquity keyboard fixes (758584) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | - and generally walking through beta-2 bugs | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | To do: | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | - GRUB aufs failure (700910) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | - console-setup deadkeys upgrade (742683) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | - GRUB background colour handling (696915) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | - Wubi backports and testing | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | - Make partman reuse existing BIOS Boot Partition (746313) | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | (done) | 16:17 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: thnx | 16:17 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Natty Bugs | 16:18 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Natty Bugs | 16:18 |
| robbiew | damn it | 16:19 |
| ev | jeez, amateur hour | 16:19 |
| robbiew | [Lightning - Part 2] | 16:19 |
| robbiew | ev: YOU be quiet | 16:19 |
| robbiew | stgraber: ? | 16:19 |
| ev | hahaha | 16:19 |
| stgraber | yeah ! | 16:19 |
| stgraber | A bit of work on AWSTrial, usual meetings (ARB, DMB), otherwise mostly ISO testing and bug fixing: bug 759080, bug 759115, bug 745532, bug 758732, bug 752393, bug 628906, bug 745011 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 759080 in Ubuntu "DHCP Server is not installed with Edubuntu LTSP Installer" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759080 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 759115 in ltsp (Ubuntu) "ltsp thin client kernel error - Could not find kernel image: vmlinuz" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759115 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 745532 in pam (Ubuntu Natty) "fails to restart (not running) gdm on maverick->natty upgrade" [Low,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/745532 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 758732 in python-apt (Ubuntu Natty) "enable_component() does not enable components for deb-src lines" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758732 | 16:19 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 752393 in lsb (Ubuntu Natty) "lsb init scripts show line buffering problems on bootup" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/752393 | 16:19 |
| stgraber | (done) | 16:19 |
| * mvo hugs stgraber | 16:20 | |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Natty Bugs | 16:22 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Natty Bugs | 16:22 |
| robbiew | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-04-08#Foundations | 16:23 |
| robbiew | that's a bit stale | 16:23 |
| robbiew | one sec | 16:23 |
| robbiew | http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=33569 | 16:23 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=33569 | 16:23 |
| barry | i have a fix for bug 758037 ready to go after beta release | 16:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 758037 in pyopenssl (Ubuntu Natty) "pyopenssl breaks all ssl apps because of changes in python 2.7" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/758037 | 16:24 |
| robbiew | nice! | 16:25 |
| robbiew | whew...ubiquity mentioned all ova' da place | 16:25 |
| robbiew | though I question the severity on some of these :P | 16:26 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Oneiric Planning | 16:26 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Oneiric Planning | 16:26 |
| ev | yeah, they're not all very major | 16:26 |
| ev | I've been milestoneing some bugs to just avoid losing track of them, with the hope of getting them in for natty | 16:27 |
| robbiew | ack | 16:27 |
| robbiew | no worries on my end | 16:27 |
| robbiew | http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/OneiricPlanning#Ideas | 16:27 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/OneiricPlanning#Ideas | 16:27 |
| robbiew | I need to add info from the mailing-list conversations and put this stuff into something a bit more easy to parse | 16:28 |
| robbiew | will do that this week | 16:28 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC]AOB/GoodNews? | 16:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB/GoodNews? | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | sorry, on bugs: if anyone is short of work for natty and doesn't have anything off the beta-2 or final bug lists to tackle, please look at the ftbfs list | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | doko, do you have the current link there? | 16:28 |
| doko | http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110329-natty.html | 16:29 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20110329-natty.html | 16:29 |
| mvo | I got a branch for the archive-crawler by a contributor that massively improves the extraction of the menu-data icons | 16:29 |
| * mvo loves our community | 16:29 | |
| doko | the ld-no-add-needed are not build failures anymore, because ld --no-add-needed isn't the default anymore, saving us ~80 packages to fix | 16:30 |
| doko | will be re-enabled for oneiric | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | doko: thanks | 16:31 |
| doko | hmm, I doubt the list is up to date. pinged wgrant | 16:31 |
| robbiew | anything else? | 16:31 |
| cjwatson | having one of my "what are we missing" moments | 16:32 |
| robbiew | heh | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | the bugs we're hearing about at the moment aren't that bad, AFAICT | 16:32 |
| doko | well, the extra errors on the buildds ... I assume we'll have to catch these somehow | 16:32 |
| doko | let's see how much of these show up with the gcc-4.6 rebuild | 16:32 |
| cjwatson | should be possible to scan build logs for the same regex that launchpad-buildd uses | 16:33 |
| Ampelbein | cjwatson, doko: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=ftbfs+natty+-no-add-needed&field.tags_combinator=ALL should be a list of open ftbfs without ld-no-add-needed | 16:33 |
| cjwatson | albeit slow as usual | 16:33 |
| doko | Ampelbein: these queries time out for me unfortunately | 16:33 |
| doko | Ampelbein: how many issues does this query show? | 16:34 |
| Ampelbein | doko, 395 | 16:34 |
| doko | hmm. maybe the list *is* up to date | 16:35 |
| robbiew | #endmeeting | 16:36 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:36. | 16:36 |
| robbiew | that conversation isn't really meeting specific ;) | 16:36 |
| robbiew | thanks all! | 16:36 |
| ev | thanks | 16:36 |
| stgraber | thanks | 16:36 |
| barry | thanks robbiew! | 16:36 |
| mvo | thanks | 16:36 |
| doko | thanks | 16:36 |
| jhunt | thx | 16:36 |
| psurbhi | thanks. | 16:36 |
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