[03:26] <eamon> Hello, I'm banned from #ubuntu due to a host ban, I was wondering, is there a functional perl install on the uibuntu live CD?
[03:28] <IdleOne> eamon: it appears you were banned for using inappropriate language
[03:28] <IdleOne> Ubuntu IRC channels have guidelines we ask all user to follow. Please have a look at them.
[03:29] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[03:30] <eamon> IdleOne: do you know about ubuntu?
[03:30] <IdleOne> I do
[03:30] <IdleOne> but I don't see how that is relevant to your ban
[03:31] <IdleOne> this channel is not for technical support questions
[03:31] <IdleOne> if you are looking for support I suggest trying the ubuntu forums or askubuntu.com
[03:31] <IdleOne> if you would like to resolve the ban in #ubuntu I need you to read the guidelines and agree to follow them
[03:33] <IdleOne> Let me know what you decide
[03:37] <IdleOne> eamon: if you aren't interested in resolving the ban in #ubuntu please don't idle in here.
[03:38] <eamon> IdleOne: I'm in the process of resolving the ban
[03:38] <eamon> Thank you for trying to help, I got the answer somewhere else
[03:38] <eamon> good day
[03:38] <IdleOne> same to you
[04:18] <Corey> Here's an interesting one.  I've got a crappy netbook I intend to take through customs, and want to install UNR with full-disk encryption.  If I use the alternate installer, what's the netbook meta-package called?
[04:19] <IdleOne> ubuntu-netbook
[04:39] <Corey> IdleOne: That... makes a lot of sense.  Thanks. :-)
[06:00] <Paddy_NI> I have signed the ubuntu code of conduct on launchpad quite a while ago and I am trying to find a way to revoke it, does anyone know how I can do this?
[06:02]  * rww is bored, takes a look
[06:03] <Paddy_NI> cheers rww
[06:03] <rww> Paddy_NI: log in, click the 'Yes' part on your profile page, click the checkbox by the relevant entry on the page that comes up, click Deactivate
[06:03] <Paddy_NI> heh.. cool
[06:13] <Paddy_NI> Hey cheers rww, that was simple... and you get a nice clean confirmation email
[06:14] <rww> no problem
[06:53] <rww> I really don't like telling people to use Google, but bullgard4...
[06:53] <Tm_T> channel?
[06:54] <rww> #ubuntu+1. He drops by various places a few times a day and asks basic questions that make me want to poke him with a search engine :(
[06:55] <rww> ("basic" in that the first handful of results on the Google for the thing he's asking about answer the question)
[08:09] <rww> Something inside me twitches whenever two of the set of people in #ubuntu-offtopic that don't make sense start talking to each other :(
[08:09] <hypatia> rww: +1
[08:20] <bazhang> JigJigJigs seems to be that gnaa character
[08:24] <bazhang> whoops sorry
[08:24] <Tm_T> I don't care to give them even a chance to get banned
[08:25] <Tm_T> banned/automatically K-lined
[08:25] <hypatia> thanks, Tm_T
[08:25] <Tm_T> np
[08:26] <Tm_T> at once I wasn't way too slow to be able to do anything
 Any one know Amaranth
[08:26] <bazhang> ?
[08:27] <Tm_T> ye, wondering what they is after too
[08:27] <Jordan_U> I think Amaranth helped them before.
[08:28] <Jordan_U> Tm_T: Even when you're using singular 'they' to be gender neutral you should use plural 'are' rather that 'is' </pedantic>
[08:29] <bazhang> claims to know him personally, so not a support issue
[08:29] <Jordan_U> And of course I managed to have a mistake in that sentence :)
[08:29] <Tm_T> Jordan_U: ah, good to know, was having a conflict inside me
[08:42] <dpm> hi Pici, or someone else, I've been told that you've got a set of scripts to process IRC logs. Could you show me where they are and how to use them? I'm simply trying to find out the number of attendees to Ubuntu App Developer Week in #ubuntu-classroom
[09:23] <topyli> dpm: you might mean munin. it creates something like this: http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/irccountall/_ubuntu_offtopic.html
[09:24] <gnomefreak> google
[09:25] <gnomefreak> ok that is really odd. i typed google into browser but it showed up here :(
[09:26] <Tm_T> focus?
[09:27] <jussi> dpm: and you can get munin here: http://munin-monitoring.org/ :)
[09:31] <dpm> topyli, jussi, any tips on how to use it to simply get the number of attendees in a given channel? If you've got any hints that will save me from going through the sources at http://munin-monitoring.org/browser/trunk to understand how it all works
[09:31] <topyli> not me, i have never played with it
[09:32] <Amaranth> bazhang: I used to work with him
[09:34] <jussi> nor I
[09:37] <dpm> ok, I'll have a look. Thanks!
[09:57] <dpm> hm, to use munin I need to have a running apache server and all that. topyli, do you know who maintains the http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/irccountall/index.html page? Would it be possible to simply add #ubuntu-classroom to the list of monitored IRC channels?
[09:57] <topyli> isn't that Pici's site? :)
[09:58] <Tm_T> is
[09:58] <Tm_T> dpm: http://nullcortex.com/2010/11/munin-irc-trends/
[10:02] <dpm> thanks topyli and Tm_T
[10:02] <dpm> Pici, when you're around and if you've got a minute, do you think you could give me a hand with this? ^^
[12:56] <Pici> I thought I had read that firestarter was being deprecated, anyone happen to remember anything like that?
[12:58] <jrib> Pici: I also recall something similar.  Is it being developed anymore?
[13:00] <Pici> jrib: Doesn't look like it. Its at 1.0.3 in every supported release we have, as well as all the debian releases.
[13:00] <Pici> Also, looks like fedora, mandriva, and gentoo have removed it.
[13:01] <LjL> these GUI interfaces to lower level stuff always keep appearing and disappearing like mushroom :\
[13:02] <jussi> !info gufw
[13:02] <jussi> was the replacement, no?
[13:03] <jussi> I dont remember...
[13:03] <LjL> no clue
[13:03] <Pici> Yes.
[13:04] <Pici> It looks like (g)ufw is in all of our releases except dapper, and desktop has already EOLed.
[14:01] <Tm_T> Firestarter hasn't been maintained since January 2005?
[14:01] <Tm_T> s/maintained/developed/
[14:02] <ikonia> good, I hate it
[14:02] <ikonia> lets drop it
[14:03] <Tm_T> if there's maintained replacement with mostly similar functionality, then yes please
[14:03] <Pici> !search firestarter
[14:03] <Pici> !ics
[14:03] <popey> firestarter works well for that specific use case
[14:03] <popey> of connection sharing
[14:04] <Tm_T> my point, actually (:
[14:04] <popey> (I used it at UDS once to share my wifi connection to someone else over crossover cable because his wifi card had blown)
[14:04] <topyli> it's the only reason why a normal person would want a "firewall" anyway :)
[14:04] <Tm_T> never really used it to much of anything else but that and monitoring network connections
[14:05] <Pici> Is Gaurddog still around?
[14:05] <jussi> I think kde just got that functionality built into its network manager
[14:05] <jussi> Pici: yes
[14:06] <jussi> !info guarddog
[14:06] <Tm_T> still around, but is it actively developed?
[14:06] <Pici> !firewall =~ s#Firestarter/##
[14:07] <jussi> !info guarddog natty
[14:07] <jussi> hehe
[14:07] <Pici> jussi: firestarter is still in natty, its just the same version that was in dapper :/
[14:07] <jussi> looks like it might have died...
[14:07] <jussi> or changed name
[14:29] <Pici> errr
[14:36] <root___> Hello, I need to speak to Tm_T, (s)he asked me to come here today
[14:47] <dpm> hi Pici, not sure if you saw the question earlier on. Would it be possible to add #ubuntu-classroom to the list of monitored channels on http://status.nullcortex.com/other/other/irccountall/index.html? Id like to show how many participants are in there during our Ubuntu*Weeks
[14:48] <Pici> dpm: I didn't, but I can easily do that.
[14:48] <Pici> root___: Tm_T was active earlier, just wait a bit for them to notice your request.
[14:54] <root___> Pici: Is Tm_T a group of people?
[14:56] <dpm> Pici, that'd be awesome, thanks!
[14:58] <topyli> Tm_T is legion
[15:17] <ikonia> eamon: taking offtopic questions to other ubuntu channels is not acceptable
[15:17] <ikonia> you're banned from ubuntu - that doesn't mean take general ubuntu support issues to specialst ubuntu channels such as #ubuntu-kernel
[15:20] <charlie-tca> Anyone watching #ubuntu+1? Guest70768 is a bit disruptive
[15:20] <ikonia> I'll keep an eye out
[15:20] <Pici> There too?
[15:20] <ikonia> eamon: if you'd like to resolve your ban, we can attempt to do that now
[15:21] <Pici> He has been doing the same thing in #ubuntu
[15:21] <Pici> After multiple requests to stop.
[15:21] <Pici> Bonus: Hes also LarsTorBen
[15:21] <ikonia> ooh, that guy
[15:21] <IdleOne> he is?
[15:22] <ikonia> can we remove eamon if he's not going to respond so that Guest can be sorted
[15:22] <Pici> Lars_G: Hi.
[15:22] <Lars_G> Pici: Greetings.
[15:23] <Lars_G> Pici: I wanted to see the general proceedings of the channel, it seems it's not welcome though
[15:24] <Pici> Too many Larses
[15:24] <Pici> Would anyone else care to take care of the real lars? I really need to do some work (and not get distracted by IRC).
[15:24] <ikonia> I'll sort it
[15:24] <ikonia> I'm taking a break at the moment
[15:24] <charlie-tca> Well, anyway, you know the guest I wanted stopped
[15:25] <IdleOne> charlie-tca: don't you have +o in +1?
[15:25] <charlie-tca> no
[15:25] <IdleOne> why not!?
[15:25] <charlie-tca> I am only an op in Xubuntu channels
[16:28] <IdleOne> y essy no ident
[16:28] <rww> popey: Network Manager can do ICS just fine, in my experience ;P
[16:28] <popey> how?
[16:29] <IdleOne> !ics
[16:29] <rww> first section of the link in the factoid.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetConnectionSharing
[16:30] <popey> that looks horrid
[16:31] <rww> It's like five clicks. Way easier than installing and using firestarter.
[16:31] <popey> firestarter has a really nice wizard to do this. that nm guide is a jumble of steps
[16:31] <popey> nice of them to put "before you start" at the end of the guide. good touch
[16:31] <rww> !itsawiki
[16:31] <rww> I would, but I'm at work >.>
[16:32] <popey> i wont because I've never done it
[16:32] <rww> could do with some screenshots and all that jazz anyway (and testing for 11.04 compliance). I'll do it when I get home.
[17:47] <popey> btw rww I have a T-shirt with "It *is* a wiki!" on :D
[17:51] <jussi> test
[17:51] <jussi> o/
[17:52] <jussi> quassel on android <3
[17:53]  * genii-around slides jussi a coffee
[17:53] <maco> ooh neat
[17:53] <jussi> thanks genii
[17:53]  * maco ponders android again
[17:54] <jussi> maco, its hardly feature complete, but it works.
[17:54] <jussi> (mostly)
[17:55] <genii-around> On my phone I'm using yaaic for IRC but now I'm tempted to switch :)
[17:55] <jussi> genii, quasseldroid. its only for those with cores though
[17:56] <jussi> maco, its really nice to have Qt on android :)
[18:24] <jpds> Ah, whoops, didn't see jrib there.
[18:24] <jrib> hmm, seemed like he had a question
[18:55] <jpds> ubottu: tell Arash_ about yourself
[20:33] <keyUp> hello, Just to ask when will I get unbanned form #ubuntu I have one problem and I need little support, I have been banned for few days
[20:35] <jrib> ikonia: around?
[20:39] <LjL> oh no, it's logan coming to delete my factoids :(
[20:39] <Logan_> lmao
[20:39]  * Logan_ is here to fix an obnoxiously wrong comma before a not-coordinating conjunction :P
[20:41] <LjL> !downgrade
[20:41]  * LjL has seen worse
[20:42] <Logan_> lol
[20:43]  * Logan_ pokes rww 
[20:43]  * Logan_ also pokes IdleOne 
[20:43] <LjL> arrwawah, come here and be a good grandma fixer
[20:43] <Logan_> :P
[20:44] <jussi> !downgrade =~ s/supported, and/supported and/
[20:44] <jussi> ;)
[20:44] <Logan_> gracias jussi
[20:45] <jussi> Logan_: feel free to go fix all the rest of the factoids if you so desire :P
[20:45] <Logan_> believe me, LjL can confirm that I've already been doing that :P
[20:47] <LjL> jussi: likes, he's just deleted all my pearls of wisdom :(
[20:47] <LjL> lies, even
[20:47] <keyUp> hello, Just to ask when will I get unbanned form #ubuntu I have one problem and I need little support, I have been banned for few days
[20:47] <LjL> yes keyUp i think you should probably wait until ikonia is around as i believe it was his ban
[20:48] <LjL> honestly though, i think i can say it would help if you didn't change nicks all the time
[20:48] <jussi> Ill take a look at the ban
[20:50] <jussi> Hrm, the logs on this arent very helpful, same with the commnets. I think ikonia had best deal with it, as he has the knowledge about it.
[20:50] <keyUp> i don't believe he/she will unban me :)
[20:51] <keyUp> he/she banned me because I argued with him/her
[20:51] <rww> As I understand it, this is not an accurate view of the situation, as other ops have mentioned.
[20:52] <Logan_> hey rww :)
[20:52] <jussi> keyUp: if you show the correct attitude now, I think you will be fine - ikonia is usually fair, but it is really up to your attitude and honesty.
[20:52] <keyUp> so what should I do now wait for ikonia here or ? I have pm him no reply
[20:52] <keyUp> he hate me for real :)
[20:52] <rww> hi Logan_ :)
[20:52] <LjL> keyUp, i'm sure he's just not around
[20:52] <Pici> jussi: I'm a bit familiar with the situation.
[20:53] <jussi> Pici: feel free to deal with it :)
[20:54] <Pici> keyUp: It looks like we have multiple bans here for you.  According to my logs, we've seen you as dejan, Keyup, goliath, codex, and a few others... does that sound right?
[20:56] <keyUp> I used few nicknames, I am sure that is not forbiden no?
[20:56] <LjL> keyUp: it's not forbidden but it doesn't speak in your favor when you're banned, because it makes us strongly suspect you're either trying to evade or confuse things
[20:56] <Pici> keyUp: Not strictly, but it seems that you were using different nicks to get past some of the bans that were placed.
[20:57] <keyUp> I had argued with ikonia I got eited hit enter much often and flooded #ubuntu channel because I was typing fast I havent read what ikonia said to stop it so i got banned, that is what is this ban for i think
[20:57] <keyUp> Pici, that wasn't my intenion of course, i don't elieve you ban people by nick no?
[20:57] <keyUp> believe*
[20:58] <rww> You weren't typing particularly quickly. You were abusing your enter key. One of our channel bots notes that they warned you about it *eight times*
[20:58] <keyUp> :)
[20:58] <keyUp> it's my style
[20:58] <keyUp> ..
[20:58] <keyUp> I will try to improve it..
[20:58] <Pici> keyUp: Its against the channel rules.
[20:59] <keyUp> it is ok if I am banned for more time I will try to improve my typing style and listen a bit more..
[20:59] <keyUp> :)
[20:59] <Pici> keyUp: I'm sorry if I'm going all over the place with this, but there is a lot of stuff here.
[21:00] <Pici> keyUp: It also looks like you stopped by #ubuntu-ops about 3 days ago and claimed that you've never been in #ubuntu
[21:00] <keyUp> honestly I am using more nicks because there are some people I am not sure officials or not but I am sure kids that say some not really nice words to me because I am beginner to linux and in past month or so I asked really a lot of questions on the channel
[21:00] <keyUp> so when they see my nick they make fun of me which i dont like :@
[21:01] <keyUp> this is my brother computer it has different IP
[21:01] <keyUp> I used few times when I got banned honestly
[21:01] <keyUp> :|
[21:01] <keyUp> my brother wanted to use support so unban him at least I am banned on 2 IPs I believe because of the same nick
[21:01] <keyUp> same reason* sorry
[21:02] <keyUp> I will ot use his PC anymore just mine
[21:02] <keyUp> not*
[21:02] <Pici> keyUp: Because you have done things that warrant being banned on both IPs.
[21:02] <keyUp> he installed ubuntu too :D
[21:02] <keyUp> yeah
[21:02] <keyUp> its ok
[21:02] <keyUp> just unban this IP if possible asap, and leave other one for some tie as punishment.. if you feel so
[21:02] <keyUp> if possible..
[21:03] <keyUp> ill ot log in from this IP anymore, and my br is nicer then me :_)
[21:03] <keyUp> ok I am off now
[21:03] <keyUp> thanks for listening
[21:03] <keyUp> anything else?
[21:03] <Pici> keyUp: I think you really need to work on pressing the enter key so often.
[21:03] <keyUp> I must work sry
[21:03] <keyUp> yeah..
[21:03] <Pici> Okay. Stop by here later and we'll discuss some more. (or ikonia will).
[21:03] <keyUp> ok
[21:03] <keyUp> thanks alot
[21:03] <keyUp> bye
[21:03] <Pici> bye
[21:03] <Pici> @mark keyup
[21:04]  * Pici shrugs
[21:06] <eamon> Hello, are you there Tm_T?
[21:09] <Pici> eamon: I haven't seen him since before the last time you were here.
[21:10] <ikonia> hello
[21:10] <ikonia> sorry I was just away
[21:11] <Pici> ikonia: Only a few moments too late, check your pm.
[21:11] <eamon> ok, I'll be back later on since there's a no idling policy in this channel
[21:11] <Pici> eamon: thanks.
[21:13] <ikonia> Pici: thanks
[23:21] <keyup> hello friends :)
[23:21] <IdleOne> hello keyup
[23:22] <keyup> ikonia arround?
[23:22] <IdleOne> I don't know
[23:22] <IdleOne> ikonia: ping
[23:25] <nhandler> He has been idle over an hour, so there is a good chance he is not around right now
[23:25] <IdleOne> keyup: have you read the !guidelines ?
[23:25] <IdleOne> !guidelines
[23:26] <keyup> ok
[23:26] <keyup> anoying by any chance using apache?
[23:26] <IdleOne> keyup: have you read the !guidelines ?
[23:27] <keyup> yes i m now
[23:27] <keyup> I am muted on #httpd too and i desperately need 2 min help 2 min max
[23:27] <LjL> why am i not surprised
[23:27] <LjL> keyup, the way it works is not that when you get banned from a channel you get help from an unrelated channel
[23:27] <IdleOne> keyup: part of the reason you are banned in #ubuntu is that you do not seem to follow any direction
[23:28] <IdleOne> I need you to focus and tell me if you understand the guidelines for using #ubuntu
[23:28] <keyup> :)
[23:28] <keyup> yea yea
[23:28] <keyup> you all are smart
[23:28] <keyup> no doubt about it
[23:29]  * LjL acts all idiotic
[23:29] <keyup> but only thing you need is to lower your ego just a bit sometimes on some occasions
[23:29] <keyup> ah this guy wont unmute me on #httpd for 46 days :!
[23:30] <IdleOne> #httpd is not in our control you would need to speak to a  channel op there
[23:30] <IdleOne> So, back to the ban in #ubuntu
[23:30] <IdleOne> Do you wish to be unbanned?
[23:33] <LjL> err maybe he was reading the guidelines though
[23:34] <IdleOne> he is to busy spamming #freenode with enter
[23:34] <LjL>  ah
[23:34] <IdleOne> to be reading
[23:34] <keyup> I am sorry i was discussing my apache prolem with guy in #freenode he was going off so i must hurry there..
[23:35] <keyup> yes i wish..
[23:35] <keyup> to be unbanned in #ubuntu if possible
[23:35] <IdleOne> you understand the channel guidelines for using #ubuntu?
[23:35] <keyup> I use ubuntu and apache I need support from time to time, i will try to be strickly professional
[23:35] <keyup> yes
[23:36] <IdleOne> ok I am going to give you a chance. Please understand that next time it will be a lot longer before the ban is removed.
[23:37] <IdleOne> please join #ubuntu
[23:37] <LjL> keyup, do us a favor, HOLD that Enter key and don't hit it until you're finished with your train of thought. otherwise the ops here will be forced to take action again :\
[23:37] <keyup> ok thanks
[23:38] <keyup> well I suggest you watch the logs before analyzig my ban removal
[23:39] <IdleOne> please join #ubuntu so I can make sure you are unbanned
[23:39] <keyup> ok thaks again
[23:39] <keyup> ill leave from here