[01:20] <skaet>  ubuntu desktop ( amd64, amd64+mac, i386, powerpc) posted - 20110412 image
[01:44] <skaet> kubuntu desktop (amd64, amd64+mac, i386, powerpc) posted - 20110413 image
[02:06] <skaet> ubuntu netbook pre-installed (omap3, omap4) posted - 20110413 image
[02:34] <skaet> kubuntu-mobile daily-live (i386) posted
[02:57] <skaet> mythbuntu desktop (amd64, i386) posted 20110413 image
[03:43] <skaet> ubuntu dvd (amd64, i386) posted 20110413 image
[04:06] <skaet> kubuntu desktop arm (preinstalled omap, omap4) posted - 20110413
[04:10] <skaet> ubuntu alternate (i386, amd64, amd64+mac, powerpc) posted
[04:11] <stgraber> just finished downloading alternate i386 so I can make sure LTSP now works fine
[04:12] <skaet> :)  sounds good.
[04:16] <skaet> kubuntu dvd (i386, amd64) posted - 20110413
[04:27] <charlie-tca> Good night. Will run more tests tomorrow (about 9 hours away)
[04:31] <skaet> thanks charlie-tca,  sleep well.
[04:32] <skaet> kubuntu mobile (omap, omap4) posted 20110413
[04:33] <stgraber> and LTSP works !
[04:33] <stgraber> at least it does on i386
[04:51] <patrickmw> stgraber, nice!
[05:07] <skaet> ubuntu headless (omap3, omap4) posted - 20110413
[05:07] <skaet> stgraber,  :)
[05:07] <skaet> xubuntu alternate (i386,amd64) posted - 20110413
[05:12] <skaet> ubuntu-server (i386, amd64) posted  - 20110413
[05:38] <skaet> ubuntu-studio (i386, amd64) posted - 20110413
[06:12] <skaet> jibel, charlie-tca,  all images should be up now.
[06:12]  * skaet -> heading to zzz
[08:13] <jibel> good morning everyone
[08:15] <ScottK> I'll need to install over it eventually, but I'm keeping the btrfs install I did that led to Bug #759503 around for a bit in case additional information is needed.
[08:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 759503 in linux (Ubuntu) "Crash trying to install over btrfs partition in live installer (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759503
[09:42] <jibel> all, we are rebuilding desktop images to fix a bug with ubiquity
[10:59] <mvo> jibel: bug #759545 is a ucf prompt or a "normal" dpkg prompt?
[10:59] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 759545 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "user prompted to update unmodified grub configuration during Ubuntu server upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759545
[11:00] <jibel> mvo, ucf
[11:00] <mvo> thanks, the auto-upgrade-tester does nt catch those currently unfortunately
[11:00]  * mvo looks to see if he can figure out a way to detect them automatically
[12:25] <pedro_> jibel_, is the new dvd image 20110413 ok to test?
[12:25] <pedro_> good day btw
[13:02] <jibel> Hi pedro_
[13:03] <jibel> DVDs are rebuilding but there are brand new desktop images to test.
[13:04] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[13:04] <charlie-tca> jibel: the double sound icon in Xubuntu upgrade is because of pulling in all of gnome. That is the gnome panel and mixer
[13:05] <jibel> Good morning charlie-tca
[13:05] <jibel> charlie-tca, okay, thanks.
[13:07] <jibel> charlie-tca, there's is also the missing network icon, but mrpouit said it's probably a known issue.
[13:07] <charlie-tca> Yup, i will have to dig to find that bug number, though
[13:08] <charlie-tca> Thanks for doing those tests
[13:08] <jibel> charlie-tca, bug 759608
[13:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 759608 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "network-manager icon missong from indicator area after xubuntu upgrade to natty (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759608
[13:09] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[13:11] <pedro_> jibel, just saw the rebuilding message, thanks ;-)
[13:11] <pedro_> good morning charlie-tca
[13:12] <charlie-tca> Good Morning, pedro_
[13:13] <jibel> all, fresh Ubuntu and Kubuntu desktop images are available on the tracker and waiting for you.
[13:15]  * jibel writing a shell script with notepad oh dear !
[13:16] <patdk-wk> oh? notepad got ported?
[13:17] <psalden> is xubuntu coming up too? I'll wait a bit with installing the current one in that case
[13:17] <jibel> patdk-wk, heh, sadly not, I'm also writing it on Windows :-)
[13:18] <charlie-tca> psalden: alternates are out, but desktop are being res
[13:18] <charlie-tca> respun
[13:20] <psalden> alright, will wait a bit longer then
[13:20] <charlie-tca> images lined out on the ISO tracker are not ready to test yet
[13:35] <jibel> xubuntu desktop images are ready, I'm adding thme to the tracker now.
[13:35] <charlie-tca> thanks
[13:35] <psalden> cool... I'll get right on em :)
[13:38] <charlie-tca> jibel: xubuntu desktop should be 13.2
[13:39] <jibel> charlie-tca, yup, I changed that. Should be ok by now
[13:40] <charlie-tca> thanks
[14:00] <psalden> damn, still wont load from usb here
[14:00] <charlie-tca> burn it with usb-creator or UNetbootin
[14:00] <charlie-tca> Unetbootin works for me
[14:02] <psalden> tried before but will again... it gets stuck in the . . . . loading screen
[14:11] <psalden> its remarkable though, all natty derivatives do this for me while it never happened with older version
[14:19] <charlie-tca> give me a few minutes, I will try it here
[14:20] <charlie-tca> I normally use cd-r's so I have burn the usb image
[14:21] <psalden> alright, thanks a lot :)
[14:21] <psalden> I can't really find similar cases on forums or so though, so it's probably hardware related
[14:33] <psalden> works through unetbootin hdd method it seems... cool
[14:34] <charlie-tca> UNetbootin is the only I have been able to burn usb sticks that work
[14:36] <psalden> the hard disk method is neat stuff anyway
[14:37] <psalden> although for some reason it needs the usb in parallel, heh
[14:37] <psalden> to find its packages during install
[14:42] <charlie-tca> psalden: burned to usb stick using unetbootin, booted to desktop
[14:43] <psalden> yeah not so much luck here :/ how long does it take you to load
[14:43] <charlie-tca> about 2 minutes on a 1.73GHz celeron
[14:44] <psalden> Ill gibe it one last try
[14:50] <psalden> interesting, it loads after ages, but I must startx myself
[14:53] <psalden> but barely :) ah well, more trying later, thx though charlie-tca
[14:53] <charlie-tca> psalden: thanks for testing
[14:54] <psalden> I wish I could somehow get something detailed out of it so I could report it
[14:57] <jibel> cjwatson, the dump doesn't fit on a DVD. I can send you a usb key.
[14:57] <jibel> (it's 7.7GB compressed)
[14:59] <cjwatson> oh yeah, maths
[14:59] <cjwatson> that would be awesome, I could return it at the release sprint :)
[15:00] <cjwatson> I only had one production FAT filesystem lying around, and couldn't reproduce the bug on that
[15:00] <cjwatson> and I've stared at the code to no avail
[15:00] <cjwatson> so I'm going to have to reproduce it and run it under valgrind
[15:31] <jibel> new DVDs available for testing
[15:32]  * patdk-wk wants one :)
[15:33]  * pedro_ syncing
[15:34] <charlie-tca> I will just work on the cd installs. The dvd will take me about 6 hours to download, and I would prefer not to.
[15:34] <jibel> the following images are untested:
[15:34] <jibel> Kubuntu Alternate powerpc
[15:34] <jibel> Kubuntu Desktop amd64+mac, arm, i386, powerpc
[15:34] <jibel> Kubuntu Mobile armel+omap3/4, i386
[15:34] <jibel> Mythbuntu Desktop amd64/i386
[15:34] <jibel> Ubuntu Alternate amd64+mac
[15:34] <jibel> Ubuntu Desktop amd64+mac/powerpc
[15:34] <jibel> Ubuntu DVD amd64/i386
[15:34] <jibel> Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64/i386
[15:35] <jibel> Upgrade Edubuntu amd64/i386
[15:35] <jibel> Xubuntu Desktop amd64/i386
[15:35] <jibel> and 1 day to the release. go ahead!
[15:38] <jibel> pedro_, which arch are you testing ? I'll take the other
[15:42] <pedro_> jibel, ubuntu dvd i386
[15:42] <pedro_> i can only test i386 images
[15:42] <pedro_> and i'll do ubuntu studio i386 as well
[15:42] <pedro_> and kubuntu dvd if needed
[15:44] <jibel> pedro_, okay, I starting amd64
[15:44] <pedro_> oki doki
[16:02] <fader_> I'm pulling down the ubuntu amd64 dvd right now, so I can start on that in a few
[16:02] <fader_> Still reading the seed for zsync so I can't give an eta, but my guess is <=30m
[16:15] <fader_> Whew, finished reading.  Download ETA is ~4m.  I probably could have downloaded the whole image faster than using zsync :/
[16:17] <charlie-tca>  Hello, fader_
[16:17] <fader_> charlie-tca: Howdy!
[16:18] <charlie-tca> you been hiding again?
[16:18]  * fader_ is like a ninja.
[16:23] <fader_> But I heard about this "ubuntu" thing and thought I'd check it out. :)
[16:24] <charlie-tca> heh, It is quite the thing these days, at least around here.
[16:24] <charlie-tca> They even got me to try it... ;-)
[16:25] <fader_> :)
[16:25] <fader_> "*Now* how much would you pay?"
[16:27] <charlie-tca> um, I don't like it that much, really.
[16:28] <fader_> :(
[16:29] <charlie-tca> but at least I tried it, right?
[16:31] <fader_> True.
[16:31] <davmor2> fader_: I didn't know they had unfit ninjas
[16:31] <charlie-tca> Other people think it is worth a lot. You can probably get at least a book for it
[16:32] <fader_> davmor2: You must be referring to my carefully padded and insulated body.  It keeps me safe and warm in cold environments.
[16:33] <davmor2> fader_: No I was on about the fact you were whining like the wimp you are from the walk to the pie pub in oxford :P
[16:34] <fader_> Ah, that's different.  Complaining bitterly about not having beer in hand is totally legitimate.
[16:42] <yofel> hm, what do I have to set in the qt tracker that I started I test? Select 'Started' as result and submit?
[16:42] <yofel> *started a test
[16:42] <fader_> yofel: That should be it
[16:43] <yofel> ok, seems right
[17:09] <patrickmw> stgraber: please see bug 759965
[17:09] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 759965 in ltsp "ltsp installation fails on Build LTSP chroot step (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759965
[17:29] <stgraber> patrickmw: do you still have that VM running ?
[17:29] <stgraber> patrickmw: if so, a screenshot of the fourth VT would be useful
[17:45] <patrickmw> stgraber, I attached a screenshot to the bug
[17:46] <patrickmw> stgraber, ah, ok. I will get a screenshot of VT 4 as well
[17:46] <stgraber> patrickmw: yeah, I saw the screenshot, but that's a screenshot of VT 1 (big scary red background), not VT 4 (syslog)
[17:47] <stgraber> the error message means: ltsp-build-client return != 0. So something is wrong with LTSP but that can be anything from a package failing to install in the chroot to the target fs being full.
[17:47] <stgraber> patrickmw: thanks!
[17:56] <patrickmw> QA meeting in 5 mins #ubuntu-quality
[17:58] <patrickmw> stgraber, added syslog image to bug :)
[18:01] <stgraber> patrickmw: ok, doesn't really help :( I'll have to do a test install here once I'm done fixing my current bug.
[18:02] <patrickmw> stgraber, good luck. let me know if there is anything else I can do to help
[18:33] <fader_> Bleh, ubuntustudio has some dependency issues preventing install
[18:34] <jibel> skaet, ^ ubuntustudio seems broken
[18:34] <jibel> fader_, what's the missing/broken dependency, I'll try it there
[18:35] <fader_> jibel: It looks like some of the stuff in the audio editing task... I excerpted the relevant log bits in bug 760008
[18:35] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760008 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "amd_64 studio install fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760008
[18:35] <skaet> jibel, fader_,  ack
[18:36] <fader_> I'm expecting the same thing to happen on i386 but I'm syncing to test that anyway
[18:37] <jibel> fader_, I have i386 ready for testing
[18:38] <fader_> jibel: I'm putting it on a USB stick right now but if you're already running that install I'll abort it and grab something else
[18:38] <fader_> (Bad timing :) )
[18:39] <jibel> the purple background for derivatives looks like a bug
[18:39] <fader_> Hmm, not sure if it's a bug per se.  They were all consistent and blue before, and they're still consistent, just aubergine now
[18:39] <fader_> I'm just glad it's not orange :D
[18:39] <charlie-tca> We fixed the colors, had them right for beta1, Ubuntu changed something and tossed the colors around again
[18:40] <charlie-tca> If you do encrypted lvm and mistype the password, they change for the new password input, then go back to purple for the rest of the install
[18:41] <yofel> only? here d-i on the kubuntu alternate images is purple all the time
[18:41] <charlie-tca> and we kind of gave up fighting to get them to change
[18:41] <yofel> which looks really inconsistent since the boot selection screen is blue
[18:42] <yofel> most of the color bugs are unfixed I think
[18:47] <jibel> fader_, what did you select at the 'Software selection' screen ?
[18:48] <fader_> jibel: The audio editing item... I don't remember the exact wording.  I should be coming up on that within a minute or two and can let you know
[18:49] <jibel> fader_, I'm snapshoting the VM there, and start with nothing selected.
[18:49] <jibel> fader_, failed
[18:49] <fader_> jibel: Cool.  I'm running this on real hardware so I wasn't easily able to do those sorts of comparisons
[18:49] <fader_> jibel: On i386?
[18:49] <jibel> fader_, yes
[18:50] <fader_> jibel: Cool, thanks.  I'll try a different task on the i386 I'm running then.
[18:51] <jibel> fader_, the problem is the dependency on hal which moved to universe in natty
[18:51] <fader_> Hmm, what is depending on hal?
[18:51] <fader_> I mean, the metapackage obviously does, but why?
[18:53] <jibel> ubuntustudio-desktop
[18:53] <jibel> I pinged ScottL on #u-release
[18:53] <fader_> Yeah, that's what I mean... not sure why that metapackage depends on it
[18:53] <fader_> Cool
[18:55] <stgraber> patrickmw: installing now, should have some more details on the ltsp failure soon
[18:57] <jibel> fader_, the release team is aware of the bug and working on it now. Thanks
[18:57] <fader_> jibel: Thank you!
[18:57] <jibel> I'm off for a few hours, see you in a bit
[18:59] <davmor2> fader_: why were you never this polite when I told you stuff like that?
[19:00] <fader_> davmor2: Because jibel is a nice guy! :P
[19:01] <davmor2> fader_: You know what I don't care what you say you not squirming out of it no pie for you :P
[19:01] <fader_> :'(
[19:29] <skaet> jibel, all,  new mythbuntu (i386, amd64) posted - 20110413.3
[20:03] <charlie-tca> screen-reader installations fail; orca does not speak the windows and you don't know what to next
[20:45] <charlie-tca> Trying screen-reader again; it apparently only quits reading if the mouse is moved
[20:50] <bdmurray> yofel: are you still working on kubuntu alternate i386?
[20:50] <yofel> I am, expert install currently
[20:50] <bdmurray> on hardware or a virtual machine?
[20:50] <yofel> my eeePC
[20:50] <bdmurray> did you try rekonq / the browser?
[20:51] <yofel> I did in the full disk install, worked fine there. but didn't try with the full encryption
[20:52] <bdmurray> Hmm, it crashes for me after launching it and I have a ksplashx crash too
[20:52] <bdmurray> I don't think my environment is screwed up but am starting to wonder
[21:29] <jibel> Riddell, I tested kubuntu-mobile,
[21:30] <jibel> it boots, but the UI is ... disappointing
[21:35] <Riddell> jibel: but UI exists?
[21:36] <jibel> Riddell, Yes, which is an improvement since last milestone.
[21:41] <Riddell> jibel: exactly :)
[21:42] <Riddell> jibel: unfortunately upstream's Plasma Active work requires newer kdelibs than we have so we haven't been able to update the UI
[21:42] <jibel> Riddell, np, I set the test to pass with a comment.
[21:46] <cjwatson> charlie-tca: I'll try to make the d-i colours consistent across derivatives for final, if I remember.  kirkland did add the basic facility ...
[21:47] <charlie-tca> Thank you! You know, I didn't file any bug for it.
[21:47] <charlie-tca> It will happen sooner or later, I know.
[21:47] <cjwatson> it wouldn't hurt to file one, target it to natty, and milestone for final ...
[21:48] <cjwatson> (or tell me the bug# and I'll do that)
[21:48] <charlie-tca> Okay, I will go do that
[22:13] <skaet> jibel,  ubuntu alternate amd64 build started to pick up ltsp fix.
[22:20] <skaet> jibel,  ubuntu alternate amd64 posted.
[22:22] <jibel> skaet, should I say Yay! pitti promised 'no more rebuilds' ;-)
[22:22] <jibel> skaet, what's in it ? do we need to retest it all or only ltsp ?
[22:23] <skaet> only expected change was ltsp, but.... :P
[22:24] <skaet> jibel,  smoke test it a bit, and if seeing same results as prior version,  I think we should be fine.
[22:24] <jibel> patrickmw, ^ can you help with ltsp, you seem to enjoy it
[22:24]  * skaet just wants to make sure no regression weirdnesses introduced.
[22:25] <patrickmw> jibel, skaet: i will test it as soon as its ready
[22:25] <skaet> patrickmw,  should be on the iso tester now.
[22:26] <skaet> look for a timestamp of 686512 -rw-rw-r-- 1 cdimage cdimage 702294016 2011-04-13 21:15 natty-alternate-amd64.iso
[22:26] <patrickmw> jibel, I've encountered an issue with a simplified Chinese install.  Its most likely a translation bug, but I want to be sure.  Submitting the bug now
[22:27]  * charlie-tca been at this too long, he is doing a non-english installstallation in Korean
[22:27] <jibel> charlie-tca, xubuntu is all done \o/
[22:27] <charlie-tca> yeah, Ubuntu64
[22:28] <charlie-tca> I can do both desktops if you want this done in each one
[22:29] <charlie-tca> patrickmw: is that something I will hit in Korean, too?
[22:29] <patrickmw> charlie-tca, Traditional Chinese was ok.  I'm hoping Korean and Japanese are ok.
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Korean seems to be, so far
[22:30] <patrickmw> charlie-tca, if you finish Korean, I will take Japanese
[22:30] <charlie-tca> Okay
[22:30] <patrickmw> charlie-tca, when you log in, check the applets
[22:30] <charlie-tca> I can only read Korean
[22:30] <charlie-tca> okay
[22:31] <jibel> patrickmw, I can't help with chinese. The only sign I remember is the 'exit' sign on the highway :-)
[22:31] <chadadavis> Are the results of tests from previous builds still useful? I did a number of tests on Mac, but only had time to retest a few cases that I thought might have changed, given the bug descriptions that were fixed.
[22:31] <patrickmw> charlie-tca, clock, shutdown, chat, email, network.  Check for empty labels or for the literal "Label Empty"
[22:32] <charlie-tca> Will do
[22:32] <charlie-tca> shouldn't be any empty, I thought
[22:32] <patrickmw> correct
[22:57] <patrickmw> jibel, skaet: good and bad news about LTSP. good news, the bug displaying the error at install time is fixed.  Bad news, I get a kerneloops when the thin client connects to the server
[22:57] <jibel> patrickmw, is it reproducible ?
[22:57] <patrickmw> jibel, yes
[22:58] <patrickmw> jibel, I am going to record the VM so I can see the kernel errors
[23:00] <jibel> chadadavis, can you smoke test a few iso to ensure that there's no regression?
[23:01] <chadadavis> jibel, will do. Just amd64 for tonight, though. I will have the mac back in the morning. Is there a time when the tracker will close for new reports, or when they're no longer useful?
[23:01] <jibel> chadadavis, the tracker is opened 24/7
[23:02] <jibel> and there's no useless report
[23:04] <skaet> patrickmw,  ack.    please make sure there are no other regressions with that image - otherwise we may fall back to the prior one.
[23:16] <Daviey> Hi, is someone available to test server-raid1 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/5443/287 ?
[23:18] <Daviey> (ideally on bare metal)
[23:34] <skaet> patrickmw, is there a bug with the kerneloops in it it?   would like to get it infront of the kernel team
[23:35] <patrickmw> skaet, the recoding didn't catch anything additional, but I do have a screenshot.  I am still trying to dig a bit.
[23:35] <patrickmw> skaet, I can report the bug
[23:36] <patrickmw> stgraber, ping
[23:37] <skaet> thanks patrickmw,  screenshot welcome.
[23:37] <patrickmw> skaet, I need to check if this is a VM issue
[23:38] <skaet> ok.  will stand by.   If its looking likely to be a valid kernel oops,  let kernel team know in #u-kernel.
[23:41] <patrickmw> stgraber, bug 727448.  did we determine this was a virtual box issue?
[23:41] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 727448 in ltsp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "thin client does not boot to ltsp server (affects: 1) (heat: 101)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727448
[23:41] <patrickmw> there's no comment, and I don't recall beta 1
[23:42] <patrickmw> I'm now getting this same issue with alternate amd64
[23:43] <stgraber> patrickmw: I think it might have been the kernel/nbd issue that was fixed a while ago
[23:44] <patrickmw> stgraber :( I'm seeing it again
[23:45] <stgraber> I'm finishing an amd64 ltsp install now in kvm, but the one I did this afternoon worked fine
[23:45] <kais58> is there a way to lock the menu bar in unity?
[23:45] <jibel> patrickmw, depending on the vm you're using, there are some facilities to redirect the output of the console to a file and catch the full boot log
[23:46] <patrickmw> jibel, ok thanks. I will look into this
[23:47] <stgraber> patrickmw: are you testing with kvm or virtualbox ? (just wondering)
[23:48] <patrickmw> stgraber, virtualbox.  I just found out how to output the console.  doing that now
[23:48] <stgraber> patrickmw: might be interesting to try with KVM, highvoltage had some weird bugs happening in virtualbox in the past that we couldn't reproduce with kvm
[23:50] <patrickmw> stgraber, ack
[23:52] <jibel> skaet, what is Ubuntu Netbook armel+omap3/4 without testcases ?
[23:52] <jibel> skaet, is it the same as Ubuntu ARM Preinstalled omap3/4 ?