=== yofel_ is now known as yofel [01:20] ubuntu desktop ( amd64, amd64+mac, i386, powerpc) posted - 20110412 image [01:44] kubuntu desktop (amd64, amd64+mac, i386, powerpc) posted - 20110413 image [02:06] ubuntu netbook pre-installed (omap3, omap4) posted - 20110413 image [02:34] kubuntu-mobile daily-live (i386) posted [02:57] mythbuntu desktop (amd64, i386) posted 20110413 image [03:43] ubuntu dvd (amd64, i386) posted 20110413 image [04:06] kubuntu desktop arm (preinstalled omap, omap4) posted - 20110413 [04:10] ubuntu alternate (i386, amd64, amd64+mac, powerpc) posted [04:11] just finished downloading alternate i386 so I can make sure LTSP now works fine [04:12] :) sounds good. [04:16] kubuntu dvd (i386, amd64) posted - 20110413 [04:27] Good night. Will run more tests tomorrow (about 9 hours away) [04:31] thanks charlie-tca, sleep well. [04:32] kubuntu mobile (omap, omap4) posted 20110413 [04:33] and LTSP works ! [04:33] at least it does on i386 [04:51] stgraber, nice! [05:07] ubuntu headless (omap3, omap4) posted - 20110413 [05:07] stgraber, :) [05:07] xubuntu alternate (i386,amd64) posted - 20110413 [05:12] ubuntu-server (i386, amd64) posted - 20110413 [05:38] ubuntu-studio (i386, amd64) posted - 20110413 [06:12] jibel, charlie-tca, all images should be up now. [06:12] * skaet -> heading to zzz [08:13] good morning everyone [08:15] I'll need to install over it eventually, but I'm keeping the btrfs install I did that led to Bug #759503 around for a bit in case additional information is needed. [08:15] Launchpad bug 759503 in linux (Ubuntu) "Crash trying to install over btrfs partition in live installer (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759503 [09:42] all, we are rebuilding desktop images to fix a bug with ubiquity [10:59] jibel: bug #759545 is a ucf prompt or a "normal" dpkg prompt? [10:59] Launchpad bug 759545 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "user prompted to update unmodified grub configuration during Ubuntu server upgrade (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759545 [11:00] mvo, ucf [11:00] thanks, the auto-upgrade-tester does nt catch those currently unfortunately [11:00] * mvo looks to see if he can figure out a way to detect them automatically [12:25] jibel_, is the new dvd image 20110413 ok to test? [12:25] good day btw [13:02] Hi pedro_ [13:03] DVDs are rebuilding but there are brand new desktop images to test. [13:04] Good morning [13:04] jibel: the double sound icon in Xubuntu upgrade is because of pulling in all of gnome. That is the gnome panel and mixer [13:05] Good morning charlie-tca [13:05] charlie-tca, okay, thanks. [13:07] charlie-tca, there's is also the missing network icon, but mrpouit said it's probably a known issue. [13:07] Yup, i will have to dig to find that bug number, though [13:08] Thanks for doing those tests [13:08] charlie-tca, bug 759608 [13:08] Launchpad bug 759608 in xubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "network-manager icon missong from indicator area after xubuntu upgrade to natty (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759608 [13:09] Thanks [13:11] jibel, just saw the rebuilding message, thanks ;-) [13:11] good morning charlie-tca [13:12] Good Morning, pedro_ [13:13] all, fresh Ubuntu and Kubuntu desktop images are available on the tracker and waiting for you. [13:15] * jibel writing a shell script with notepad oh dear ! [13:16] oh? notepad got ported? [13:17] is xubuntu coming up too? I'll wait a bit with installing the current one in that case [13:17] patdk-wk, heh, sadly not, I'm also writing it on Windows :-) [13:18] psalden: alternates are out, but desktop are being res [13:18] respun [13:20] alright, will wait a bit longer then [13:20] images lined out on the ISO tracker are not ready to test yet [13:35] xubuntu desktop images are ready, I'm adding thme to the tracker now. [13:35] thanks [13:35] cool... I'll get right on em :) === chuck_ is now known as zul [13:38] jibel: xubuntu desktop should be 13.2 [13:39] charlie-tca, yup, I changed that. Should be ok by now [13:40] thanks [14:00] damn, still wont load from usb here [14:00] burn it with usb-creator or UNetbootin [14:00] Unetbootin works for me [14:02] tried before but will again... it gets stuck in the . . . . loading screen [14:11] its remarkable though, all natty derivatives do this for me while it never happened with older version [14:19] give me a few minutes, I will try it here [14:20] I normally use cd-r's so I have burn the usb image [14:21] alright, thanks a lot :) [14:21] I can't really find similar cases on forums or so though, so it's probably hardware related [14:33] works through unetbootin hdd method it seems... cool [14:34] UNetbootin is the only I have been able to burn usb sticks that work [14:36] the hard disk method is neat stuff anyway [14:37] although for some reason it needs the usb in parallel, heh [14:37] to find its packages during install [14:42] psalden: burned to usb stick using unetbootin, booted to desktop [14:43] yeah not so much luck here :/ how long does it take you to load [14:43] about 2 minutes on a 1.73GHz celeron [14:44] Ill gibe it one last try [14:50] interesting, it loads after ages, but I must startx myself [14:53] but barely :) ah well, more trying later, thx though charlie-tca [14:53] psalden: thanks for testing [14:54] I wish I could somehow get something detailed out of it so I could report it [14:57] cjwatson, the dump doesn't fit on a DVD. I can send you a usb key. [14:57] (it's 7.7GB compressed) [14:59] oh yeah, maths [14:59] that would be awesome, I could return it at the release sprint :) [15:00] I only had one production FAT filesystem lying around, and couldn't reproduce the bug on that [15:00] and I've stared at the code to no avail [15:00] so I'm going to have to reproduce it and run it under valgrind [15:31] new DVDs available for testing [15:32] * patdk-wk wants one :) [15:33] * pedro_ syncing [15:34] I will just work on the cd installs. The dvd will take me about 6 hours to download, and I would prefer not to. [15:34] the following images are untested: [15:34] Kubuntu Alternate powerpc [15:34] Kubuntu Desktop amd64+mac, arm, i386, powerpc [15:34] Kubuntu Mobile armel+omap3/4, i386 [15:34] Mythbuntu Desktop amd64/i386 [15:34] Ubuntu Alternate amd64+mac [15:34] Ubuntu Desktop amd64+mac/powerpc [15:34] Ubuntu DVD amd64/i386 [15:34] Ubuntu Studio Alternate amd64/i386 [15:35] Upgrade Edubuntu amd64/i386 [15:35] Xubuntu Desktop amd64/i386 [15:35] and 1 day to the release. go ahead! [15:38] pedro_, which arch are you testing ? I'll take the other [15:42] jibel, ubuntu dvd i386 [15:42] i can only test i386 images [15:42] and i'll do ubuntu studio i386 as well [15:42] and kubuntu dvd if needed [15:44] pedro_, okay, I starting amd64 [15:44] oki doki [16:02] I'm pulling down the ubuntu amd64 dvd right now, so I can start on that in a few [16:02] Still reading the seed for zsync so I can't give an eta, but my guess is <=30m [16:15] Whew, finished reading. Download ETA is ~4m. I probably could have downloaded the whole image faster than using zsync :/ [16:17] Hello, fader_ [16:17] charlie-tca: Howdy! [16:18] you been hiding again? [16:18] * fader_ is like a ninja. [16:23] But I heard about this "ubuntu" thing and thought I'd check it out. :) [16:24] heh, It is quite the thing these days, at least around here. [16:24] They even got me to try it... ;-) [16:25] :) [16:25] "*Now* how much would you pay?" [16:27] um, I don't like it that much, really. [16:28] :( [16:29] but at least I tried it, right? [16:31] True. [16:31] fader_: I didn't know they had unfit ninjas [16:31] Other people think it is worth a lot. You can probably get at least a book for it [16:32] davmor2: You must be referring to my carefully padded and insulated body. It keeps me safe and warm in cold environments. [16:33] fader_: No I was on about the fact you were whining like the wimp you are from the walk to the pie pub in oxford :P [16:34] Ah, that's different. Complaining bitterly about not having beer in hand is totally legitimate. [16:42] hm, what do I have to set in the qt tracker that I started I test? Select 'Started' as result and submit? [16:42] *started a test [16:42] yofel: That should be it [16:43] ok, seems right [17:09] stgraber: please see bug 759965 [17:09] Launchpad bug 759965 in ltsp "ltsp installation fails on Build LTSP chroot step (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759965 [17:29] patrickmw: do you still have that VM running ? [17:29] patrickmw: if so, a screenshot of the fourth VT would be useful [17:45] stgraber, I attached a screenshot to the bug [17:46] stgraber, ah, ok. I will get a screenshot of VT 4 as well [17:46] patrickmw: yeah, I saw the screenshot, but that's a screenshot of VT 1 (big scary red background), not VT 4 (syslog) [17:47] the error message means: ltsp-build-client return != 0. So something is wrong with LTSP but that can be anything from a package failing to install in the chroot to the target fs being full. [17:47] patrickmw: thanks! [17:56] QA meeting in 5 mins #ubuntu-quality [17:58] stgraber, added syslog image to bug :) [18:01] patrickmw: ok, doesn't really help :( I'll have to do a test install here once I'm done fixing my current bug. [18:02] stgraber, good luck. let me know if there is anything else I can do to help [18:33] Bleh, ubuntustudio has some dependency issues preventing install [18:34] skaet, ^ ubuntustudio seems broken [18:34] fader_, what's the missing/broken dependency, I'll try it there [18:35] jibel: It looks like some of the stuff in the audio editing task... I excerpted the relevant log bits in bug 760008 [18:35] Launchpad bug 760008 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "amd_64 studio install fails (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760008 [18:35] jibel, fader_, ack [18:36] I'm expecting the same thing to happen on i386 but I'm syncing to test that anyway [18:37] fader_, I have i386 ready for testing [18:38] jibel: I'm putting it on a USB stick right now but if you're already running that install I'll abort it and grab something else [18:38] (Bad timing :) ) [18:39] the purple background for derivatives looks like a bug [18:39] Hmm, not sure if it's a bug per se. They were all consistent and blue before, and they're still consistent, just aubergine now [18:39] I'm just glad it's not orange :D [18:39] We fixed the colors, had them right for beta1, Ubuntu changed something and tossed the colors around again [18:40] If you do encrypted lvm and mistype the password, they change for the new password input, then go back to purple for the rest of the install [18:41] only? here d-i on the kubuntu alternate images is purple all the time [18:41] and we kind of gave up fighting to get them to change [18:41] which looks really inconsistent since the boot selection screen is blue [18:42] most of the color bugs are unfixed I think [18:47] fader_, what did you select at the 'Software selection' screen ? [18:48] jibel: The audio editing item... I don't remember the exact wording. I should be coming up on that within a minute or two and can let you know [18:49] fader_, I'm snapshoting the VM there, and start with nothing selected. [18:49] fader_, failed [18:49] jibel: Cool. I'm running this on real hardware so I wasn't easily able to do those sorts of comparisons [18:49] jibel: On i386? [18:49] fader_, yes [18:50] jibel: Cool, thanks. I'll try a different task on the i386 I'm running then. [18:51] fader_, the problem is the dependency on hal which moved to universe in natty [18:51] Hmm, what is depending on hal? [18:51] I mean, the metapackage obviously does, but why? [18:53] ubuntustudio-desktop [18:53] I pinged ScottL on #u-release [18:53] Yeah, that's what I mean... not sure why that metapackage depends on it [18:53] Cool [18:55] patrickmw: installing now, should have some more details on the ltsp failure soon [18:57] fader_, the release team is aware of the bug and working on it now. Thanks [18:57] jibel: Thank you! [18:57] I'm off for a few hours, see you in a bit [18:59] fader_: why were you never this polite when I told you stuff like that? [19:00] davmor2: Because jibel is a nice guy! :P [19:01] fader_: You know what I don't care what you say you not squirming out of it no pie for you :P [19:01] :'( [19:29] jibel, all, new mythbuntu (i386, amd64) posted - 20110413.3 [20:03] screen-reader installations fail; orca does not speak the windows and you don't know what to next === Claudinux_ is now known as Claudinux [20:45] Trying screen-reader again; it apparently only quits reading if the mouse is moved [20:50] yofel: are you still working on kubuntu alternate i386? [20:50] I am, expert install currently [20:50] on hardware or a virtual machine? [20:50] my eeePC [20:50] did you try rekonq / the browser? [20:51] I did in the full disk install, worked fine there. but didn't try with the full encryption [20:52] Hmm, it crashes for me after launching it and I have a ksplashx crash too [20:52] I don't think my environment is screwed up but am starting to wonder === chuck_ is now known as zul [21:29] Riddell, I tested kubuntu-mobile, [21:30] it boots, but the UI is ... disappointing [21:35] jibel: but UI exists? [21:36] Riddell, Yes, which is an improvement since last milestone. [21:41] jibel: exactly :) [21:42] jibel: unfortunately upstream's Plasma Active work requires newer kdelibs than we have so we haven't been able to update the UI [21:42] Riddell, np, I set the test to pass with a comment. [21:46] charlie-tca: I'll try to make the d-i colours consistent across derivatives for final, if I remember. kirkland did add the basic facility ... [21:47] Thank you! You know, I didn't file any bug for it. [21:47] It will happen sooner or later, I know. [21:47] it wouldn't hurt to file one, target it to natty, and milestone for final ... [21:48] (or tell me the bug# and I'll do that) [21:48] Okay, I will go do that === kais58_ is now known as kais58 [22:13] jibel, ubuntu alternate amd64 build started to pick up ltsp fix. [22:20] jibel, ubuntu alternate amd64 posted. [22:22] skaet, should I say Yay! pitti promised 'no more rebuilds' ;-) [22:22] skaet, what's in it ? do we need to retest it all or only ltsp ? [22:23] only expected change was ltsp, but.... :P [22:24] jibel, smoke test it a bit, and if seeing same results as prior version, I think we should be fine. [22:24] patrickmw, ^ can you help with ltsp, you seem to enjoy it [22:24] * skaet just wants to make sure no regression weirdnesses introduced. [22:25] jibel, skaet: i will test it as soon as its ready [22:25] patrickmw, should be on the iso tester now. [22:26] look for a timestamp of 686512 -rw-rw-r-- 1 cdimage cdimage 702294016 2011-04-13 21:15 natty-alternate-amd64.iso [22:26] jibel, I've encountered an issue with a simplified Chinese install. Its most likely a translation bug, but I want to be sure. Submitting the bug now [22:27] * charlie-tca been at this too long, he is doing a non-english installstallation in Korean [22:27] charlie-tca, xubuntu is all done \o/ [22:27] yeah, Ubuntu64 [22:28] I can do both desktops if you want this done in each one [22:29] patrickmw: is that something I will hit in Korean, too? [22:29] charlie-tca, Traditional Chinese was ok. I'm hoping Korean and Japanese are ok. [22:30] Korean seems to be, so far [22:30] charlie-tca, if you finish Korean, I will take Japanese [22:30] Okay [22:30] charlie-tca, when you log in, check the applets [22:30] I can only read Korean [22:30] okay [22:31] patrickmw, I can't help with chinese. The only sign I remember is the 'exit' sign on the highway :-) [22:31] Are the results of tests from previous builds still useful? I did a number of tests on Mac, but only had time to retest a few cases that I thought might have changed, given the bug descriptions that were fixed. [22:31] charlie-tca, clock, shutdown, chat, email, network. Check for empty labels or for the literal "Label Empty" [22:32] Will do [22:32] shouldn't be any empty, I thought [22:32] correct [22:57] jibel, skaet: good and bad news about LTSP. good news, the bug displaying the error at install time is fixed. Bad news, I get a kerneloops when the thin client connects to the server [22:57] patrickmw, is it reproducible ? [22:57] jibel, yes [22:58] jibel, I am going to record the VM so I can see the kernel errors [23:00] chadadavis, can you smoke test a few iso to ensure that there's no regression? [23:01] jibel, will do. Just amd64 for tonight, though. I will have the mac back in the morning. Is there a time when the tracker will close for new reports, or when they're no longer useful? [23:01] chadadavis, the tracker is opened 24/7 [23:02] and there's no useless report [23:04] patrickmw, ack. please make sure there are no other regressions with that image - otherwise we may fall back to the prior one. [23:16] Hi, is someone available to test server-raid1 http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/result/5443/287 ? [23:18] (ideally on bare metal) [23:34] patrickmw, is there a bug with the kerneloops in it it? would like to get it infront of the kernel team [23:35] skaet, the recoding didn't catch anything additional, but I do have a screenshot. I am still trying to dig a bit. [23:35] skaet, I can report the bug [23:36] stgraber, ping [23:37] thanks patrickmw, screenshot welcome. [23:37] skaet, I need to check if this is a VM issue [23:38] ok. will stand by. If its looking likely to be a valid kernel oops, let kernel team know in #u-kernel. [23:41] stgraber, bug 727448. did we determine this was a virtual box issue? [23:41] Launchpad bug 727448 in ltsp (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "thin client does not boot to ltsp server (affects: 1) (heat: 101)" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/727448 [23:41] there's no comment, and I don't recall beta 1 [23:42] I'm now getting this same issue with alternate amd64 [23:43] patrickmw: I think it might have been the kernel/nbd issue that was fixed a while ago [23:44] stgraber :( I'm seeing it again [23:45] I'm finishing an amd64 ltsp install now in kvm, but the one I did this afternoon worked fine [23:45] is there a way to lock the menu bar in unity? [23:45] patrickmw, depending on the vm you're using, there are some facilities to redirect the output of the console to a file and catch the full boot log [23:46] jibel, ok thanks. I will look into this [23:47] patrickmw: are you testing with kvm or virtualbox ? (just wondering) [23:48] stgraber, virtualbox. I just found out how to output the console. doing that now [23:48] patrickmw: might be interesting to try with KVM, highvoltage had some weird bugs happening in virtualbox in the past that we couldn't reproduce with kvm [23:50] stgraber, ack [23:52] skaet, what is Ubuntu Netbook armel+omap3/4 without testcases ? [23:52] skaet, is it the same as Ubuntu ARM Preinstalled omap3/4 ?