[00:00] Bleh, PHP has it's own weird standards. [00:00] * dmcglone1 throws hand grenade in flame shelter [00:00] * dmcglone1 says that should show him just how secure PHP really is [00:00] ;-) [00:01] * dmcglone1 says: it's not the language it's the user [00:01] You should change your nick to BiosElemental for a war... [00:02] how do you change your nick on the fly anyhow? === dmcglone1 is now known as BiosElementEvilT [00:02] Heh, when the language has dozens of security bugs in the best f/oss software around, I blame the language. :P [00:02] I changed to bioselementeviltwin [00:02] >.> === BiosElementEvilT is now known as dmcglone [00:04] I keep forgetting what >.> is!!! [00:04] dmcglone: You also changed it in #cubecreate [00:04] man I'm getting too old for these crazy mind games ;-) [00:05] that should have happened [00:06] I got an alias so over here I don't see the change :-/ [00:06] * Unit193 has too many open channels [00:07] well make sure you keep the porn channels open [00:07] ;-) [00:08] hah [00:08] Well... #xubuntu has an X in it... does that count? ;) [00:08] nope, it's gotta have 3 x's [00:08] haha [00:09] I have 3 Xubuntu channels open (support, dev and offtopic) [00:10] well I guess that'll do haha [00:10] is the picture fuzzy or broken up? [00:10] ;-) === dmcglone is now known as MetallicaRulz [00:20] Ho to tha la. === MetallicaRulz is now known as dmcglone [00:43] Ho to tha la back at ya [00:46] Hello TheErk [00:48] Mr Unit Sir. How are you? [00:49] Sir? Fine I guess... you? [00:54] I am fantastical thank you for inquiring. [01:39] I'm trying to find something to do!!! [01:39] I want to write some code but I keep procrastinating badly [01:40] dang I'm just lazy!! [01:46] Yes, yes you are dmcglone [01:47] hehehe [01:47] Sup all [01:47] dmcglone: I'm not however: http://cubecreate.com/ [01:47] sup Derath-Srvr [01:47] Hello Derath-Srvr !! [01:48] Not much, was just popping in to see if Jacob was active, since he just sent out an email... [01:49] yeah, I just sent one of my own :-/ [01:49] Jacob sucks, he needs to be around here more often. Without him I don't have anyone to rant with ;) [01:49] * Unit193 can't wait 'til the 28th [01:49] 28th? [01:50] what's happening then? [01:50] Xubuntu 11.04!! [01:52] ah... [01:52] And Ubuntu 11.04 with Unity!! [01:52] * BiosElement sighs [01:57] BiosElement: You do use Ubuntu? [01:57] Not usually, but since kubuntu's shot at the moment, yes. [01:57] BiosElement: ditch that unity!!! [01:58] Blah, I wish [01:58] As an ubuntu loco member, I feel it's mandatory for me to at least give it a shot [02:01] Good luck. The only shot I gave it was from my 12 guage [02:01] dmcglone: Did you even use it at all? [02:01] yup 1 hour that I'll sadly never get back!! [02:02] although I feel bad for that 20" plasma with the shotgun hole in it ;-) [02:03] dmcglone: What do you use/plan to use? [02:03] Unit193: after an hour of tinkering only to find out you cannot customize the desktop, I dumped it [02:04] I'm using Gnome on my desktop and both my netbooks [02:05] Gnome has it drawbacks, but nothing as bad as KDE [02:05] dmcglone: So Ubuntu just -Unity +Gnome [02:05] aka Debian [02:06] dmcglone: Did you try L/X? [02:06] hey guys, did anyone end up reserving the room at the columbus library for april 30th? [02:07] yup Unit193 [02:07] gilbert not yet just spoke to Jacob about that [02:08] dmcglone: was he here? [02:08] No we e-mailed [02:08] ok [02:08] do you still have the link to the reservation page? [02:08] we are going to discuss it at the meeting next week [02:08] yes let me find it [02:09] we should probably make the reservation asap [02:09] true, but we need to iron out some details :-/ [02:10] i think room first, details later [02:11] http://meeting-rooms.columbuslibrary.org/evanced/lib/roomrequest.asp?libnum=9 [02:11] dmcglone: thanks! [02:11] it says in the rules that someone has to be there at all times that the room is reserved [02:12] hmm, does not look good for that weekend now... [02:13] it was already taken the first time we checked, we had to move the day. that was one of the things I talked about a few months ago [02:14] we tried to get it on release day IIRC but had to start thinking of an alternative [02:15] release is before the 30th [02:15] isn't it? [02:15] but I couldn't get any info [02:15] Gilbert! Hey [02:15] I think it's the 28th [02:15] Derath-Srvr: greetz :) [02:16] One of the people I wanted to talk to hehe [02:16] Cheri703: had some good suggestions, but things just weren't falling through [02:16] what's up? [02:16] Mind if I msg? [02:16] go ahead [02:17] so sun may 1st is open, not sure if sun will be worse than sat tho [02:18] I can be there, but it will be after 1pm before I can arrive... (teaching class until noon in Dayton) [02:18] Sunday would work for me [02:18] Err on Sat that is... [02:19] but be aware if you get it for a whole lot of hours, we need to find people to be there during the hours the meeting isn't taking place :-/ [02:20] I suppose I could cover and read a book for a few hours if that'd help [02:21] I could pitch in a couple hours myself [02:22] If someone makes a food run, I won't mind sitting around... [02:22] Can someone make a wiki page to figure things out? [02:22] Depending on whether sat or sun, sat is afternoon, sun is most of the day [02:25] well if we can get all the details covered, I wouldn't have a problem reserving the room ASAP [02:26] (As a side notw, I love the humble bundle's new url's "cdn.com/humblebundle.com/each-download-costs-us-money---please-be-responsible/" [02:26] Guess I need to start nudging carl again, or is it too early for that lol [02:26] Figure out what day [02:26] As soon as that's done, reg the bloody room, we'll use it regardless I'm sure [02:27] I agree [02:29] agreed [02:29] Hey!!! you know what I know of another place that we might be able to hold the meeting. it's over by the library. Hang on!!! [02:30] AS long as there's free parking nearby lol [02:34] gotta go... laters all [02:34] it's the Downtown technology center on Town St. I just looked it up, there is free parking, but the conference rooms aren't free. I just tried to get a price, but the site requires asking for prices [02:35] Have a nice one Derath-Srvr [02:35] later Derath-Srvr [02:35] so thats out the window [02:35] gilbert: 9Pm to 11Pm? [02:36] we very well could find a sponsor :-) [02:36] Cheri703: yeah, not really ideal [02:36] * Cheri703 didn't think the libraries were open that late [02:37] library closes at 6pm :-/ [02:37] Cheri703: it appears to be the case [02:37] at least for dublin library [02:37] weird [02:38] I will be over at the technology center tomorrow evening I'll ask around about their conference room [04:40] BiosElement: Going to change the default WP theme? [04:40] Yes [04:53] g'night all [05:54] any one here? [05:56] SkrappJaw: Nope [05:57] * Cheri703 is lurking [05:57] word [05:57] Hey andy === andrew_ is now known as Guest3824 [05:58] hello === SkrappJaw is now known as Skrapp_Jaw === Guest3824 is now known as gillyman [05:59] are you on facebook Cheri? [05:59] yep [05:59] cheri703 [06:00] know anyone who wants/needs to pay someone to do computery things? /me needs clients/money! [06:00] cool. I can't friend request? [06:00] Probably. Katie ended up with a client when she brought some cards to my last gig. [06:01] nice, does she do computer stuff too? [06:02] Just for her digital media classes. [06:02] ah, gotcha [06:03] but she has to use photoshop and one CS2 works well in wine. [06:03] * Cheri703 needs to go get more cards printed. it's on the list for this week [06:03] I should have some coming soon. [06:04] need to like the Mansfield ubuntu hour page. :P [06:05] heh [06:05] I may. I don't generally "like" stuff on fb... [06:05] I am vaguely contemplating making a fb page for my business, but it feel like selling my soul [06:06] * Cheri703 has a vaguely tolerate / hate relationship with fb [06:06] lol. [06:06] I just hate it... [06:06] * Skrapp_Jaw is also in that with androids. [06:06] I have thought about using it again.... [06:06] They rock, but it'g google. [06:06] it's* [06:07] It's linux... [06:07] It's a vanilla kernel with a java display manager right? [06:07] * Unit193 never used it [06:08] I heart android [06:08] better than apple! [06:08] Also, Verizon is gonna start tracking all users who have root level access to their phones. [06:08] I would love to have one [06:09] well, that's just verizon being ridiculous [06:09] I think it's gonna be or may already be followed with some kind of anti-piracy fight propaganda. [06:09] Like sony's [06:09] With jail breakers. [06:09] * Cheri703 is firmly in the "I purchased my hardware, I can do whatever the heck I want with it, I am paying you for SERVICE, NOT anything else" [06:10] also, I heart sprint :) [06:10] * Skrapp_Jaw is on sprint [06:10] * Skrapp_Jaw also needs to get off the blackberry train. [06:11] my curve is on the down-slope now. lol [06:14] heh, yeah, I'm definitely ready for an upgrade, unfortunately not coming anytime soon [06:49] Hello pacco [13:43] * Derath-Srvr yawns [15:56] AHHHHHHH [15:57] My wife just read me an article [15:57] M$ bought nokia and is phasing out meego [15:57] WTF!!!! [15:57] big freaking surprise there... [15:57] What does that mean for KDE though... [15:57] Only open-source project they can outright buy and get off the market... [15:57] qt when all gpl didn't it? [15:58] not to mention that they need something to improve their new phone os... [15:58] nope, nokia is switching to all windows phone 7 the article said [15:58] doubt they're going to use anything from qt/meego in windows phone 7 or 8 or whatever [15:58] yeah, but ms is still getting the code bsae... [15:59] the next win phone may be based of meego (just like OS X using freebsd) [15:59] well...was qt gpl'd? It was dual licensed right? [15:59] Might need to fork the codebase...:) [16:01] can't remember qt's status atm... [16:01] and can't check either [16:03] Also, are you sure the article isn't from TheOnion or something? lol [16:04] Also looks like it's not a buy-out... it's a cooperative strategy... [16:04] working together much like toyota and chevy to make the geo line of cars [16:05] Not to mention, who needs meegos when you can root an android? [16:08] http://www.tuaw.com/2011/02/11/microsoft-and-nokia-team-up-to-fight-apple-and-android/ [16:23] Derath-Srvr: they've already bested Mozilla, apparently https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649408 [16:23] who will be first with native CSS3 support?! [16:24] * deejoe snerks [16:58] Sounds like intel is picking up the slack for meego: http://meego.com/community/blogs/imad/2011/update-intel [17:00] Ok, so the announcement seems to really only affect meego... [17:03] So, quick poll... [17:03] I'm setting up my new vm host... [17:04] decided to go with KVM on this one, as my old one is xen...and I've been using kvm at work pretty successfully [17:04] * Derath-Srvr smirks [17:04] now the question is...go with debian squeeze... [17:04] been using hardware kvm myself lol [17:04] or natty, so that I can hopefully migrate to 12.04 eventually [17:05] Hmm... so you're looking at a vm server? [17:05] seems natty will have qemu 0.14...which has spice support [17:05] squeeze and everyone else (lucid, maverick, etc) all only have 0.12.5 [17:06] So, try for the bleeding edge, or just stick with what's stable? [17:06] Again, you're looking at a server that is running vms? [17:09] yep [17:09] I really want to be able to test spice [17:10] since some of these vms will be remote desktops [17:10] but, at the same time, I prefer a more stable host os... [17:10] Well, since you're looking for a more stable environ... I'd probably go with deb's stable build rather than natty... but that's just me... [17:10] who knows...spice may not be all that great anyway [17:11] you can always get qemu 14 packages and install/build them anyways [17:11] yeah...maybe it'll get backported... [17:11] I could probably put it in an alt location too... [17:12] it just wouldn't hook to libvirt then...but just for testing it wouldn't be bad [17:13] Have I said recently that I *LOVE* the fact that you can run the debian installer over a serial port! [17:14] * Derath-Srvr shrugs [17:14] Cool, thanksfully never have had to do that [17:17] you can also run the installer over ssh... [17:17] makes remote work easier [17:17] thafreak: do motherboards even come with serial ports anymore? [17:17] they seem to have a spot to plug one in still [17:18] you can buy a bracket and cable online... [17:18] I had one in my basement luckily [17:18] need to buy a few more though. [17:18] never had to use one in 6 years of messing around with PCs [17:20] haven't used one since the old dos days where that was the only way to plug in a mouse... [17:20] well, and keyboards were AT connectors as well lol [17:20] oh lawd [17:22] lkfa;daf ports for skype are blocked [17:37] So, I usually do 1-2x ram size for swap... [17:37] but what do you do when you have 16gb of ram? :) [17:38] hmm.... [17:38] Again, depends on need... for vms I would probably go with about 4-8G... [17:38] if it were a large db server, I'd probably go with 16-32g... [19:49] Derath-Srvr: ...what about a VM server full of DB servers? :) [19:54] yuck... [19:54] Unless you have a MASSIVE system, would not even attempt it... [19:55] a rack full of blades clustered would work for that [21:01] * Unit193 hands Oda a desktop IRC client [21:01] :D [21:01] :-) [21:02] Hello dmcglone [21:02] Hiya Unit193 [21:08] * Derath-Srvr smirks [21:08] Eh? [21:08] 16:01 * Unit193 hands Oda a desktop IRC client [21:09] What one are you using? [21:09] irssi lol [21:10] Not exactly the easiest client, but for screen support, it's great [21:10] * Unit193 uses it too [21:10] Just my theme differs [21:12] And just how do you know what theme I'm using? O.o [21:14] Your paste of what I said [21:14] True, I think there are a few characters that didn't translate well though... [21:17] BiosElement: wake up [21:40] paultag: are you on the ball? [21:41] lol [21:41] Guess it would depend on which ball [21:41] get on the ball! [21:41] :x [21:42] FOR ONLY 19.99 [21:42] I hear him chuckling and cackling over his latest invention [21:42] :-/ [21:45] dmcglone: I think BiosElement is still sleeping... [21:45] I'm on my way over to his house to get his butt up! ;-) [21:55] time to make the long trip home... laters [22:14] I hate art... [22:16] Unit193: art is cool mayne [22:38] I ate art [22:38] also [22:38] ice sculptures are "cool" === canthus14 is now known as canthus13