[03:53] <orngjce223> Hmm, this is just weird. I get xruns when I have significant disk activity, but it seems not to be correlated with how much load the processor is under or how much memory's free (for the record, that's generally at least 1GB). What gives?
[03:54] <ailo> orngjce223, Could be a jack thing. I would join #jack and discuss it with them.
[03:55] <orngjce223> 'k
[03:56] <ailo> orngjce223, I seem to remember something about that, but I reallu have no definite idea
[04:01] <holstein> with internal cards
[04:02] <holstein> i find you really have to just accept some interference
[04:02] <orngjce223> They say something about hardware interrupts being shared between hard disk and sound card. Okay.
[04:02] <orngjce223> Yeah
[04:02] <holstein> you can check that
[04:02] <holstein> in a terminal
[04:02] <holstein> cat /proc/interrupts
[04:03] <holstein> sometimes, you can isolate the sound device
[04:03] <holstein> in the bios
[04:03] <holstein> but, if its a lappy
[04:03] <holstein> maybe not :/
[04:04] <orngjce223> I wouldn't hope for as much, considering it's a teensy little thing that is an "Entertainment PC" that - and here's the really horrid part - it has the "function" buttons overlaid over F1-F12 so that I have to use the Fn-shift to get to the original F1-F12.
[04:04] <holstein> eh
[04:04] <holstein> its worth looking into it
[04:04] <holstein> really just depends on the bios
[04:06] <orngjce223> Mm. I'll do some research before digging.
[04:06] <holstein> yeah, just hit F2 or whatever it is
[04:06] <holstein> when the machine is booting
[04:06] <holstein> and you'll see real quick if its possible to change IRQ settings or not
[04:07] <orngjce223> Yeah, I think I'll go look into it - I've done such fiddling before to swap the priority of boot drives to get my thumbdrive installations working, so I assume it wouldn't be impossibly hard if it was present.
[04:07] <holstein> nah
[04:07] <holstein> its a lot like that
[04:08] <holstein> devices?
[04:08] <holstein> onboard device config?
[04:08] <holstein> something like that maybe^
[04:08] <holstein> different per machine
[04:08] <orngjce223> Mm.
[04:09] <ailo> orngjce223, Could be that the kernel 2.6.39 will help. Since it can give your device higher priority. Also, you could try realtime kernels. Have you done that?
[04:10] <orngjce223> I'm using lowlatency, not realtime, but I'm told realtime would be worse for a laptop's battery life and that's a bit of an issue.
[04:11] <ailo> orngjce223, What you get with realtime kernel is your audio device will get higher priority, together with the rtirq script
[04:11] <ailo> -lowlatency also uses more power than a normal kernel
[04:11] <ailo> Don't know how big the difference is between the three
[04:12] <orngjce223> Hmm.
[04:13] <ailo> orngjce223, Usually, when there is an irq share problem, you go for a realtime kernel. But, now when 2.6.39 is including that realtime feature, you can even us a normal kernel with the rtirq-init script to let your device get higher priority
[04:13]  * orngjce223 is currently sifting through the IRQ listing trying to find the sound card
[04:13] <ailo> This is impossible with kernels before 2.6.39, unless they are realtime patched
[04:13] <holstein> with laptops
[04:13] <holstein> i usually have several kernels
[04:13] <holstein> like dual booting
[04:14] <holstein> and choose -realtime as needed
[04:19] <orngjce223> Okay, Googling is not telling me what "io-apic-fasteoi" is in that table. Anyone else have any answer?
[04:19] <holstein> orngjce223: it is a qualifier
[04:19] <holstein> not a device
[04:19] <holstein> AFAIK
[04:20] <holstein> i was looking that up the other day
[04:20] <holstein> and thats as far as i got
[04:20] <holstein> like...
[04:20] <holstein>  23:     145379         10   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb2
[04:20] <holstein> not so good ^
[04:20] <holstein>  17:    9780510     384193   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ath9k
[04:21] <orngjce223> Okay, then I dunno, my sound card seems to be sharing with said "qualifier" and a couple USB controllers (I don't currently have any USB stuff plugged in).
[04:21] <holstein> ^ thats just my wifi
[04:21] <holstein> orngjce223: if you can get it off to its own
[04:21] <holstein> i would
[04:21] <orngjce223> On the other hand 7 seems to be open.
[04:21] <orngjce223> I'll try that.
[04:23] <holstein> if its just sitting there
[04:23] <holstein> you might as well
[04:24] <orngjce223> Or maybe 5 though I'm led to believe it's not possible to have more than 16 of these assigned at one time, so 7 is probably better since it hasn't been triggered at all, despite "io-apic-edge" sitting on it.
[04:34] <orngjce223> Hmm.
[04:35] <holstein> orngjce223: did it help?
[04:35] <holstein> it might not
[04:35] <orngjce223> See, the thing here is, it's a BIOS thing
[04:36] <orngjce223> My other friend who knows something about computers says if I don't have a way to recover if I accidentally brick it I oughtn't try. And since I can't presently crack open this thing and replace the motherboard if i do something wrong, I think I'll hold off.
[04:36] <holstein> orngjce223: ?
[04:37] <orngjce223> Hm?
[04:37] <holstein> do what you feel comfortable with
[04:37] <orngjce223> Fair enough.
[04:37] <holstein> but, dont let your friend scare you
[04:37] <holstein> you're not flashing the bios
[04:37] <holstein> you are just sitting a device to a differnt IRQ port
[04:37] <holstein> thats not dangerous
[04:37] <holstein> and totally un-doable
[04:37] <orngjce223> Mm, I understand that much.
[04:38] <holstein> flashing the bios though
[04:38] <holstein> i get nerous with that
[04:38] <orngjce223> I think I'll search to see if this firmware version has any known bugs before I do it though, just to be careful.
[04:38] <holstein> vervous*
[04:38] <holstein> but, i do it when its necessary
[04:38] <orngjce223> Mm.
[04:39] <holstein> orngjce223: the bios firmware?
[04:39] <holstein> i would hope its well tested
[04:40] <orngjce223> Yeah, I assume so, but if I'm going to do this I may as well check.
[04:40] <holstein> sure, but im sure you'll find some post about something quirky happening
[04:41] <holstein> but, you never know exactly the case
[04:41] <orngjce223> Mmm.
[04:41] <holstein> orngjce223: i say, if you dont feel comfortable
[04:41] <holstein> dont do it
[04:41] <ailo> orngjce223, Anything you do from within Linux will be soft.
[04:41] <orngjce223> Fair enough.
[04:41] <holstein> but, i have changed IRQ settings literally hundreds of times
[04:41] <holstein> in bioses
[04:41] <holstein> and thats never itself borked anything
[04:42] <orngjce223> Mm.
[04:42] <holstein> only helped really
[04:42] <holstein> with sharing issues
[04:42] <ailo> orngjce223, You can always change back. It won't do any harm changing irq
[04:43] <ailo> So, was the audio device sharing irq? Did you establish that?
[04:43] <ailo> orngjce223, Is it pci, usb..?
[04:43] <holstein> with a couple USB ports
[04:44] <holstein> if i read correctly
[04:44] <ailo> ok
[04:44] <holstein> i had a laptop
[04:44] <orngjce223> Yeah, USB. Despite the fact that I don't currently have any plugged in. But it might help to move it across.
[04:44] <holstein> COULDNT change the settings in the bios
[04:44] <holstein> and it was very bad
[04:44] <holstein> with sharing USB and audio device
[04:46] <ailo> Usually on PC's you're able to change irq at least for pci devices. Don't know about usb
[04:47] <ailo> So, if some of the usb ports aren't sharing irq, orngjce223 would just need to pick the right one, right?
[04:49] <orngjce223> Well, there's an interrupt 5 that shows as not having interrupted, ever, despite apparently having IO-apic-edge stuck on it, so that seems a decent choice.
[04:49] <orngjce223> 7, sorry, not 5.
[04:49] <orngjce223> My card's on 16, which has only been interrupted a few hundred thousand times in this thing's lifetime. o_o
[04:50] <orngjce223> "only"
[04:50] <holstein> yeah, IO-apic-edge is a qualifier
[05:02] <orngjce223> {20:53:17}	<orngjce223>	I'm trying to learn to work with modifying my perception of probabilities so as not to be over- or under-scared by any one event.
[05:02] <orngjce223> {20:54:58}	<orngjce223>	I'll estimate the probability of a fairly well-tested but low-level procedure going wrong is approximately the same order of magnitude as the failure of any other part in this machine in the next day or so.
[05:02] <orngjce223> {20:57:37}	<orngjce223>	I'm not rebooting now but I'll look to see if the option exists, /without changing it/, the next time I have to reboot.
[05:02] <orngjce223> {20:58:07}	<orngjce223>	Once I know the option exists, I'll look more into the possible ramifications of the way this particular model happens to manage these things, and only then that will be a final decision.
[05:03] <holstein> hehe
[05:03] <orngjce223> This cautious decision is because this is the only machine I currently have access to, and it is also the one I happen to use to access schoolwork.
[05:03] <holstein> get you a spare box
[05:03] <orngjce223> So there's that.
[05:03] <holstein> go to the charity shop
[05:03] <holstein> OR better yet
[05:03] <holstein> find a borked one
[05:03] <holstein> and straigten it out
[05:04] <orngjce223> Well, I'll see if the neighbors put any out with the trash in the next few weeks. The people in this neighborhood are affluent enough to believe that computers just "lose steam" (i.e. get infested with malware) after a year or so, and replace them.
[05:05] <holstein> i just got one a couple weeks ago
[05:05] <holstein> old sony viao
[05:05] <orngjce223> This means I should be able to just wipe and reinstall OS and not have to do any significant work, anyway.
[05:05] <holstein> well, you can flash the bios
[05:06] <holstein> and mess with it
[05:06] <holstein> a lot
[05:06] <holstein> and get comfortable with it
[05:06] <holstein> whats a drag is the way apple does it
[05:06] <holstein> you do a key combination to kinda reset the 'bios'
[05:06] <orngjce223> Oh yeah there's another old laptop in the basement; the power supply and battery are both borked, so that's kind of out as an option until I get a semi-working box.
[05:06] <holstein> you never see any of it
[05:07] <holstein> my girlfriends CDrom drive would just eject
[05:07] <holstein> every couple minutes
[05:07] <holstein> and i did the pram reset keyboard shortcut to sort that out
[05:07] <orngjce223> Hahahaha.
[05:15] <ailo> I was using a Pentium 3 for live audio processing just under a year ago, and I could still do it, but there were a few problems. It made a lot of noise, but the performance was good
[05:18] <holstein> yeah, by P4 with a gig of ram
[05:18] <holstein> it really did fine
[05:18] <holstein> more than enough
[05:21] <ailo> I got by with 512MB, using puredyne
[05:22] <orngjce223> Hmm. This is interesting. My father uses a 512MB P3 Tablet PC as his backup box, and I might be able to get it off him if I provide a replacement (I also draw occasionally so the tablet might be useful).
[05:22] <orngjce223> The problem being that the replacement would need to already come with a version of Windows (ugh), so I'd need to buy that.
[05:23] <orngjce223> I wonder how well he'd take it if I handed him $50 and a backup box with no OS, since I would rather not touch Windows.
[05:23] <holstein> eh
[05:23] <holstein> id get something from the trash
[05:24] <holstein> a desktop
[05:24] <holstein> soemthing cheaper, and easier to play with
[05:24] <orngjce223> Mmm.
[05:25] <orngjce223> Fair enough
[05:27] <holstein> like that laptop in the basement
[05:27] <holstein> if it were a desktop that you needed a power supply for
[05:27] <holstein> you could get one for 5 bucks at a charity shop
[05:27] <orngjce223> Mmm.
[05:31] <orngjce223> Also, one of my friends is taking a clip of TTGL and editing Morgan Freeman's face over every face in the anime. There's a good explanation for this, I swear.
[05:31] <ailo> It's a balancing act for me. At home, I couldn't use an old PC for long periods of time. I'd get tinnitus from the noise
[06:13] <psionicsin> I'm SO wanting to switch over to Ubuntu Studio (from Windows 7), but there are some ESSENTIAL things that I need. And by need, I mean that they can't be subbed with other programs. Has anyone gotten Reaper, Reason, and Photoshop CS5 to work on 10.10? I need these programs fully functioning before I switch over. I'm hoping I don't get disappointed.
[06:14] <ailo> psionicsin, Seems like you are moving an arsenal of Windows programs to Linux, which is not optimal
[06:14] <holstein> i would look at winehq
[06:14] <ailo> psionicsin, You could have a look at Linux programs that do the same thing
[06:14] <holstein> and if you can, try not to think about it as substituting apps
[06:14] <holstein> but rather, learning a new workflow
[06:15] <holstein> and if you can, try not to think about it as substituting apps
[06:15] <psionicsin> I've looked at winehq, but I can't find anything solid. Poeple say "Oh yeah I've done this", but no one wants to elaborate.
[06:15] <holstein> but rather, learning a new workflow
[06:15] <holstein> like, how to get whatever job done
[06:15] <holstein> we have lots of native tools
[06:15] <holstein> but, they have learning curves
[06:15] <psionicsin> holstein: if ardour could open and operate with reaper program files...I'd be all for it. It can't however and I have over 100 productions that would be useless.
[06:16] <holstein> you have to export them
[06:16] <holstein> as audio
[06:16] <holstein> i still have some cubase sessions
[06:16] <holstein> but, if i need them
[06:16] <holstein> i'll export them as audio
[06:16] <psionicsin> And then there's the subject of VST/VSTi's. I use the Native Insturments Komplete 7 exclusively for a lot of things.
[06:16] <holstein> and bring them into ardour
[06:16] <holstein> right
[06:17] <holstein> psionicsin: you got a lot of windows apps
[06:17] <holstein> the way i did the transition
[06:17] <holstein> i had a laptop
[06:17] <holstein> for my day to day stuff
[06:17] <holstein> with mepis on it
[06:17] <holstein> then ubuntu eventually
[06:17] <holstein> but, the studio was still running windows for a while after that
[06:17] <holstein> til i got comfortable with the basics
[06:18] <holstein> after i stopped trying to find replacements for apps
[06:18] <holstein> and just started learning the tools
[06:18] <holstein> things went a lot smoother
[06:18] <psionicsin> holstein: I am on a windows machines, so I would have a lot of those lol. I know I do NOT want to dual boot. And I'm also very comfortable with the Linux OS. This won't be my first time using it at all. It's just that the first time I switched someone promised me I could do all of this with Wine alone...and 3 months later I couldn't and took a hit.
[06:19] <holstein> psionicsin: someone?
[06:19] <holstein> someone from wineHQ ?
[06:19] <psionicsin> So there's either a couple processes people are purposly leaving out, or poeple are liars.
[06:19] <holstein> or the vendors?
[06:19] <psionicsin> It was someone from another board.
[06:19] <holstein> well, i dont think its fair to say liar
[06:20] <holstein> i mean, someone with wine and linux might say that
[06:20] <holstein> you can run windows apps in wine
[06:20] <holstein> but, thats different that trying to run some of those apps
[06:20] <holstein> all i can suggest is trying them in wine
[06:20] <holstein> or moving forward
[06:21] <psionicsin> holstein: yeah. like I've reduced my need for graphics down to photoshop. But for the music...I can't stress enough how essential VST/VSTi's are (the ones that I bought and currently have). Do you know of anyone who has successfully installed those?
[06:22] <holstein> you would need to join #kxstudio
[06:22] <holstein> and hang for a bit
[06:22] <holstein> those guys do a lot of that
[06:22] <holstein> personally
[06:23] <holstein> i think you should call the company you bought them from
[06:23] <holstein> and ask for linux support
[06:23] <holstein> or a refund
[06:23] <holstein> but, thats over the top i realize
[06:23] <psionicsin> What's #kxstudio? Is that a special distro of linux or just a channel?
[06:23] <holstein> kxstudio is an ubuntu based distro
[06:23] <holstein> the dev has tweaked a couple things to work in there
[06:23] <holstein> not sure what though because i personally dont use those tools
[06:24] <holstein> but i see them talking about them sometimes
[06:24] <holstein> i think it was reaper
[06:24] <psionicsin> Hmm ok I'll look into that and talk to some people from there. Thank you so much for your help.
[06:24] <holstein> sure
[06:25] <holstein> i couldnt imagine going back to the tools i used pre-linux
[06:25] <ailo> psionicsin, The thing is, at least for me, that when you work from withing a Windows environment, coming to Linux might even mean that you start making music differently. At least I do.
[06:25] <holstein> i also remember being very concerned about losing a few plugins that i was really comfortable with
[06:26] <holstein> ailo: i agree
[06:26] <psionicsin> ailo: wel the thing for me is that I rely heavily on the kontakt interface and it's sample packs. To make music differently would mean to forfeit my sound, as nothing in the linux world can compare to Kontakt.
[06:27] <psionicsin> Or rather the soundpacks for it
[06:27] <holstein> psionicsin: check out #opensourcemusicians
[06:27] <holstein> when you get a chance
[06:28] <holstein> there are electronic guys over there
[06:28] <psionicsin> holstein: ok. what are they good for? Or do you want me to ask these questions in there as well?
[06:28] <holstein> more MIDI minded folk
[06:28] <holstein> psionicsin: you can
[06:28] <holstein> you can say that
[06:28] <holstein> nothing in the linux world can compare to  Kontakt.
[06:28] <ailo> psionicsin, There are ways to get vst to work natively from within Linux, but not everything works
[06:28] <holstein> see if you can get any takers on it
[06:29] <ailo> psionicsin, But, DAWs may be a little trickier
[06:29] <psionicsin> Ok. If i can get Reason, Reaper, Photoshop & the NI Komplete VSTi's to work...then everything else will be cake.
[06:30] <holstein> why not dual boot?
[06:30] <holstein> or run windows?
[06:30] <psionicsin> Because I, personally, find that to be too troublesome. I'd rather have everything all in one. Now if I'm forced to stay with Windows then I will. But I'd give it up in a heartbeat.
[06:31] <psionicsin> That and also Windows likes to put it's mark on everything you plug into it. Linux minds it's own business.
[06:32] <holstein> well, at least now you can purchase devices and software with linux support
[06:33] <ailo> psionicsin, One thing you could do is send mails to the products you use and let them know you want to use them on Linux.
[06:35] <psionicsin> Well NI's user base is split between Windows and Mac. They'r enot going to make a linux version. At least not in my lifetime. Reaper I know can work in Linux with some tweaking. And my soundcard is fully supported as well.
[06:35] <holstein> NI will do whatever is lucrative
[06:35] <holstein> they run a buisness
[06:35] <psionicsin> Exactly. Although if they made a linux version, people would swarm.
[06:36] <holstein> i think enough to notice would swarm
[06:36] <holstein> its too bad
[06:36] <psionicsin> Same with Propellerhead for Reason
[14:38] <meganerd> I moved away from Windows on my Daw in 2004, the hardest part was adapting my workflow.  I never thought I would be able to give up the NI stuff, but tying yourself to the tools also ties you to the platform.
[14:39] <meganerd> oh wait this is a really old conversation, I should grab a coffee.
[15:52] <holstein> meganerd: hehe
[16:16] <phed__> meganerd: never irrelevant stuff that, tho
[16:16] <phed__> i am especially worried when you tie yourself to an inner platform, such as protools and such
[16:17] <phed__> its like having a great studio, but all the equipment has alien connectors
[16:36] <meganerd> No argument from me there.
[16:37] <meganerd> NI does have some nice products, but the overall cost in being tied to Windows is just too high IMO
[18:31] <orngjce223> Also, the option doesn't exist.
[19:27] <meganerd> has anyone here built linuxsampler recently?
[19:27] <AutoStatic> No, last time I did so was about 6 months ago :(
[19:27] <AutoStatic> Why?
[19:29] <meganerd> I noticed that on my 10.10 installs it was not there, so I checked it out via cvs, just having some weird issues.  Currently "error: cannot run /bin/bash ./config.sub", which makes sense since config.sub does not exist.
[19:30] <meganerd> had to use autoconf to generate configure.  It has been a long time since I have had to debug this sort of thing.
[19:30] <AutoStatic> Ah, that kind of stuff
[19:30] <AutoStatic> :(
[19:31] <AutoStatic> And apparently nobody has a recent version of LS in his/hers PPA for AMverick
[19:31] <AutoStatic> Maverick ^^
[19:32] <meganerd> I noticed that as well
[19:32] <meganerd> I found a how to, but it suggested downgrading jack
[19:32] <AutoStatic> LS is a PITA to package, also because of those compilation issues
[19:34] <meganerd> I figured as much.  bristol used to be like that, I used to have to build it myself.  This is the first major rebuild of my DAW for a couple of years.
[19:35] <meganerd> It has been a major headache, though no fault of UBS
[19:35] <meganerd> bad RAM + Sandy bridge made troubleshooting difficult early on
[19:37] <AutoStatic> Why 10.10?
[19:38] <meganerd> latest stable
[19:39] <meganerd> that and 11.04 would not install
[19:40] <meganerd> It was probably the bad RAM, but once I sorted out the hardware issues 10.10 was installed and humming nicely.  I had to add an nVidia GPU to get dual monitors, but that will likely come out once 11.04 is released.
[19:49] <AutoStatic> If you like compiling everything yourself 10.10 might work well
[19:49] <AutoStatic> For the moment I still prefer 10.04
[19:50] <meganerd> Did not know that.  I moved from 64Studio, the last version of which was based on 8.04
[19:52] <meganerd> what else am I missing with 10.10?
[19:55] <AutoStatic> No real-time kernel
[19:55] <AutoStatic> Or at least, not an official one
[19:55] <AutoStatic> Apparently people who need a real-time kernel for 10.10 are advised to use a natty one
[19:56] <meganerd> I built my own kernel based on upstream.
[19:56] <AutoStatic> If you're using FireWire then 10.10 is a bit of an in-between release as it offers both the old and the new stack
[19:57] <AutoStatic> Ak, kernel-wise you have no problems then  :)
[19:57] <meganerd> I have avoided firewire as much as possible, currently I have an RME 9652
[19:57] <AutoStatic> He he, no issues there too then :)
[19:57] <AutoStatic> I do use FireWire and I'm a lazy ass unwilling to build kernels myself
[19:57] <meganerd> The kernel was an old habit from my Debian and 64Studio days, those kernels tended to be too old for my hardware
[19:59] <meganerd> I spent a lot of time on research before I settled on the RME.  I have been using Linux since the 90s, hardware support is far better these days.  The only problem is that it is a PCI card, which is going away soon (it is missing on a number of Sandy Bridge boards)
[20:00] <meganerd> The kernel building was something I used to have to do since I have been using a laptop with Linux as my day to day machine for the better part of a decade.  Lots of hardware issues so I had to track fairly bleeding edge kernels.  It seems to be the other way around these days, my laptop has no issues but my desktop is a PITA :)
[20:02] <AutoStatic> He he, shit happens
[20:03] <meganerd> Heh, ya, I can't complain too much, Linux and FLOSS in general has been good to me.
[20:04] <AutoStatic> Same here
[20:04] <AutoStatic> Did you ever do any msuic production stuff on other platforms?
[20:04] <AutoStatic> music ^^
[20:05] <meganerd> Windows, and some Mac
[20:06] <meganerd> I gave my copy of Cubase SX to my best friend who has been keeping it up to date.  I shudder to think how much NI has made from him.  Ironic since has been mostly unemployed for the 15 years I have known him.  My old roomate is a heavy Sonar user
[20:06] <meganerd> So Cubase and Sonar.  I used to love the propeller head stuff.  Rebirth was one of my all time favorite pieces of software.
[20:07] <meganerd> I left Windows before I could get hooked on Reason like all my friends.
[20:07] <AutoStatic> :)
[20:08] <AutoStatic> I'm now looking at the book 'Cubase SX Power!'
[20:08] <AutoStatic> 462 pages
[20:08] <AutoStatic> And we still couldn't record properly with it
[20:09] <AutoStatic> (it = Cubase 4 I think)
[20:10] <AutoStatic> And it was all cracked stuff on a Windows XP license of my work so we ditched it
[20:11] <ailo_> AutoStatic, Did you have irq share problems? I forget
[20:11] <AutoStatic> Yes, on my notebook
[20:11] <ailo_> Was thinking if you've had time to test the latest kernel
[20:12] <ailo_> Just curious to hear about results
[20:12] <AutoStatic> 16:        153     272248   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb3, ohci1394, mmc0, eth1, jmb38x_ms:slot0, nvidia
[20:12] <ailo_> I'm sure you heard about it being able to adjust irq priority
[20:13] <meganerd> nvidia, ouch.  My nemesis on RT kernels
[20:13] <AutoStatic> Can't you already do that ailo_?
[20:13] <ailo_> AutoStatic, not on vanilla kernels, not until 2.6.39
[20:13] <AutoStatic> meganerd, on my audio installs I use nouveau
[20:14] <ailo_> So, now the rtirq-init script works with the vanilla kernel
[20:14] <AutoStatic> I know, 2.6.39 has forced IRQ threading WOOHOO!
[20:14] <AutoStatic> Linux probably bought himself a nice soundcard but it didn't work he he
[20:14] <ailo_> For me it has no effect, since I have no problems
[20:14] <AutoStatic> Linus
[20:14] <AutoStatic> I mean
[20:14] <meganerd> cool.  I have not yet messed with noveau,
[20:15] <ailo_> Don't know who we should thank, but he or she deserves a kiss for sure
[20:15] <AutoStatic> http://lists.linuxaudio.org/pipermail/linux-audio-dev/2011-March/030782.html
[20:15] <AutoStatic> So prbably Linus himself merged it
[20:16] <orngjce223> Woah.
[20:16] <orngjce223> Awesome
[20:16] <meganerd> I should check it out.  Though the nVidia is coming out as soon as 11.04 is released
[20:16] <AutoStatic> For me personally it probably means I won't be needing a real-time kernel anymore
[20:18] <ailo_> AutoStatic, Well, I guess Linus is one of those who decides which stuff he accepts, but I don't know if he has any opinions on the code
[20:18] <ailo_> Someone has pushed the code, but who?
[20:19] <ailo_> AutoStatic, If you happen to install Natty, abogani has compiled the kernel as -lowlatency
[20:19] <ailo_> AutoStatic, https://launchpad.net/~abogani/+archive/snmp++
[20:20] <ailo_> I get very nice results, but the rtirq-init does nothing for me
[20:20] <AutoStatic> ailo_, I won't be installing Natty until it has been officially released, sorry :(
[20:20] <ailo_> Well, not long now
[20:21] <AutoStatic> The 29th right?
[20:21] <AutoStatic> But the I probably still won't install it, way too happy with 10.04
[20:21] <AutoStatic> then ^^
[20:22] <meganerd> I will be moving to it, if for no other reason than support for my integrated GPU
[20:22] <ailo_> Natty may have some problems, small ones, annoying ones. Hard to know for me now. I need to do a fresh install later
[20:22] <meganerd> I can get that noisy nVidia out of this machine
[20:22] <ailo_> Nothing serious though
[20:22] <ailo_> Unity is not bad, I think.
[20:23] <ailo_> But, gnome2 is still on it, so you get to choose
[20:30] <ailo_> Ah, they all have problems. It's always annoying when something worked flawlessly on a previous release and then didn't
[21:07] <charlie-tca> Anyone in that works on the actual images here?
[21:59] <holstein> charlie-tca: ?
[21:59] <holstein> i have worked on images before
[21:59] <holstein> if you mean does anyone do professinal graphics on ubuntu
[21:59] <holstein> with opensource tools
[22:00] <holstein> sure :)
[22:02] <charlie-tca> no, cd images
[22:02] <charlie-tca> the things that we are building for beta2
[22:02] <holstein> O I C
[22:02] <charlie-tca> nm
[22:02] <holstein> charlie-tca: are you in #ubuntustudio-devel
[22:02] <charlie-tca> got it worked out, I think
[22:02] <holstein> cool
[22:03] <charlie-tca> no, but maybe I should have been, huh?
[22:03] <holstein> feel free to join the devel channel