[13:05] <charlie-tca> Good morning
[17:35] <charlie-tca> Fresh Natty install on hardware; all drive partitions are now listed as removable devices and will be on the desktop
[17:43] <ochosi> charlie-tca: that's the expected behaviour
[17:43] <charlie-tca> sure wasn't expected by me
[17:43] <charlie-tca> I really can't remove them 
[17:43] <ochosi> yeah, i don't think there's a way you can
[17:43] <charlie-tca> and I don't really like them on the desktop full time
[17:44] <charlie-tca> When I insert a cd or usb drive, yes, I want to see it, but I don't need to see my 10 partitions on my hard drive full time
[17:45] <charlie-tca> ochosi: panel fonts in natty are really tiny
[17:45] <charlie-tca> (top panel)
[17:46] <charlie-tca> I know the panel size requires small fonts, but, are those smaller than 10pt?
[17:46] <ochosi> about thunar: i'd suggest filing a bug upstream
[17:46] <charlie-tca> yeah, I have to think about it
[17:46] <ochosi> about fonts: at least not intentionally
[17:46] <ochosi> would you mind up-ing a quick screenshot?
[17:47] <charlie-tca> Let me check them on a bigger monitor, maybe this laptoip
[17:47] <ochosi> in fact the font-sizes are determined by the dpi ubuntu sets
[17:47] <charlie-tca> laptop screen might be too small
[17:47] <ochosi> and dpi depends on your screen-resolution
[17:48] <charlie-tca> yup
[17:48] <charlie-tca> 1280 X 800 on a 15" lcd?
[17:48] <charlie-tca> No wonder they look tiny to me
[17:52] <charlie-tca> I think there was a bug about the drives and partitions not showing on the desktop, so maybe this is a fix for that.
[17:52] <ochosi> with the same res on my 13'' screen the fonts look totally fine
[17:52] <charlie-tca> (but I still won't like it)
[17:52] <charlie-tca> You got good eyes
[17:53] <ochosi> not sure, the thing is that the local partitions are all handled by gio, so i'm not sure how easy it would even be to fix it in thunar
[17:53] <charlie-tca> snapshotting the screen
[17:53] <ochosi> e.g. you see the same behavior wrt partitions already in maverick in the "open file" dialog
[17:54] <ochosi> that one is gtk-builtin and uses gio
[17:54] <charlie-tca> but these aren't in "open file". They are on the desktop at all times
[17:55] <ochosi> are you sure?
[17:55] <charlie-tca> yes
[17:55] <ochosi> at iirc it's the same behavior
[17:55] <ochosi> ok, then maybe not, i'd have to check to be sure
[17:55] <charlie-tca> I am sure I am looking at the desktop, and I am sure I see all the partitions
[17:55] <ochosi> (and i'm @work so i can't)
[17:55] <charlie-tca> and I am sure they take a whole column on my de4
[17:55] <charlie-tca> desktop
[17:55] <ochosi> try "open file" in some app
[17:56] <ochosi> e.g. when setting a new desktop-wallpaper
[17:56] <charlie-tca> will that make them go away from the desktop?
[17:56] <ochosi> after hitting the "+" the open file dialog should show all your local partitions on the left
[17:56] <ochosi> just as in thunar
[17:57] <charlie-tca> I don't want them on my desktop. I don't care if they are in thunar
[17:57] <ochosi> you can only make all "removable" devices disappear from the desktop, so as i said before, it's not fixable in the way you want to fix them
[17:57] <ochosi> (meaning: all your other removable devices, like usb-sticks etc. would also not show on the desktop)
[17:58] <charlie-tca> That's my point. They should show in thunar. But why do I have a whole column of drives on the desktop now?
[17:59] <ochosi> ah right, so you'd prefer differing behavior in thunar and xfdesktop?
[17:59] <ochosi> but really, i think you should file a bug upstream
[18:00] <ochosi> i vaguely remember this issue being discussed before in #xfce-dev, but i think no-one really cared enough about it in the end
[18:00] <ochosi> k, g2g now, have a nice evening/day/morning everyone
[18:00] <charlie-tca> http://imagebin.org/147976
[18:01] <ochosi> right, that's totally the normal/expected font-size
[18:01] <charlie-tca> Okay
[18:01] <ochosi> same font-size as on desktop-icons
[18:01] <charlie-tca> They look smaller on the screen
[18:02] <charlie-tca> but it is probably my eyes with that screen
[18:02] <ochosi> probably
[18:02] <ochosi> zooming in on 100% here it really looks ok
[18:02] <ochosi> good to see that the slideshow is there :)
[18:02] <charlie-tca> That's why I asked. You know me and seeing things 
[18:03] <ochosi> sure, thanks for asking though. could've just as well been a bug
[18:03] <charlie-tca> better that *I* ask first on that kind of thing
[18:04] <ochosi> yep :)
[18:04] <ochosi> anyhow, really gotta run now
[18:04] <charlie-tca> Thanks
[18:04] <ochosi> no problemo
[18:04] <ochosi> see you around