[00:20] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: hey
[00:21] <kristian-aalborg> I was going to ask you about some ssh/ftp stuff but I figured it out :)
[00:23] <Juest> well, the system sux, too slow
[00:23] <Juest> two x servers
[00:23] <Juest> and in a vm that haves 384mb
[00:23] <Juest> UPS WRONG CHAN
[00:23] <Juest> sryy caps
[00:23] <holstein> kristian-aalborg: cool :)
[00:24] <aztek> hi duanedisign
[00:29] <aztek> is it goo if i am use to suspend my computer if i am away?
[02:13] <seidos> hey yofel_ thanks for the tip, beta2 is booting from liveusb
[02:13] <seidos> no idea what changed, but, cool
[02:15] <seidos> huh "irqbalance" that's a new binary in top
[02:31] <thewrath> heyu all
[02:47] <thewrath> anyone in here?
[02:49] <UndiFineD> hello thewrath
[02:49] <thewrath> Hey UndiFineD
[02:50] <thewrath> do you know where i can purchase a "real" hub?
[02:50] <UndiFineD> I think you mean a switch
[02:50] <UndiFineD> as network equipment
[02:51] <charlie-tca> Kind of depends on where you are located. I picked up a 16port switch on Amazon for $20.00
[02:52] <charlie-tca> I also purchased a 5 port switch at Walmart for $35.00
[02:52] <thewrath> no i need a hub
[02:52] <thewrath> there are hubs (old i know), switches, and routers
[02:52] <thewrath> i am using snort and need something that will send the traffic all ports
[02:53] <UndiFineD> coax will do that job :P
[02:53] <UndiFineD> 10 mbit
[02:53] <charlie-tca> Might try Amazon, or ebay. I don't know, I am not close to any of the computer stores
[02:58] <thewrath> UndiFineD: what do you mean coax
[02:58] <thewrath> i have al a normal Rj45 network
[03:00] <UndiFineD> coax is the kind of cable that is used for tv
[03:03] <UndiFineD> I still have 2 coax nics and a bit of cabling
[03:04] <UndiFineD> I used it in the past until the hardware became too slow
[03:05] <UndiFineD> but it was fun to demonstrate routing among coax and stp networks
[05:58] <Elise002> Quiet here tonight.
[05:59] <bioterror> r5
[10:05] <chak> hello
[10:14] <ray_> I got a question
[10:15] <ray_> A long time ago my uncle gave me a CD he put Ubuntu onto
[10:16] <ray_> Well, he wrote on it support= some letters - numbers
[10:16] <ray_> what is that for?
[10:16] <ray_> what did he put that on there for?
[10:17] <UndiFineD> hello ray
[10:17] <ray_> hello
[10:17] <UndiFineD> what does it say ?
[10:18] <ray_> I kind of can't read it because of his hand writing
[10:18] <UndiFineD> ah
[10:18] <ray_> but it says support= letters-numbers which I am guessing a password or something but that doesn't make sense to me
[10:19] <UndiFineD> well, it might be Ubuntu 10.04 Long term support
[10:19] <UndiFineD> LTS
[10:19] <ray_> what is it for, as in where do I go to use this what is perhaps a password?
[10:19] <ray_> no lol, it's older
[10:19] <UndiFineD> for ubuntu we have the current version, 10.10 that is oktober 2010
[10:20] <ray_> I think it is Gutsy Gibbons
[10:20] <UndiFineD> but also 10.04 which is april 2010
[10:20] <ray_> I know, I have it on a cd as well
[10:20] <ray_> I have all the versions of Ubuntu so far mentioned
[10:20] <ray_> on cd
[10:20] <ray_> ha ha ha
[10:20] <UndiFineD> ok
[10:21] <ray_> hmm, well, thanks for trying
[10:21] <UndiFineD> so I have no idea what the letters could mean
[10:21] <UndiFineD> or perhaps it might be a voucher for canonical support
[10:21] <ray_> I have always wondered. I could ask him, but I would rather not
[10:22] <ray_> Has canonical been with Ubuntu since the beginning?
[10:23] <ray_> Something about Open Suse and Ubuntu rings a bell for me when I had read something about them
[10:23] <UndiFineD> so ray_ , have you been watching the news, what do you think of 11.04 the natty narwhal to be released ?
[10:23] <ray_> I haven't tried it yet
[10:23] <ray_> What do you think>
[10:23] <UndiFineD> yes, canonical is the company that started ubuntu
[10:23] <ray_> I meant that as a question mark lol
[10:23] <ray_> O
[10:24] <UndiFineD> well I could tell you what i think, but I am interested from a marketing perspective to you
[10:24] <ray_> sorry, right Open suse was joining forces with Microsoft or something
[10:25] <ray_> Marketing perspective, hmm, I am not how I can help you
[10:25] <UndiFineD> have you heard of the change of interface ?
[10:25] <ray_> give me a sec
[10:25] <ray_> uh, don't tell me
[10:26] <ray_> I forget, but something to do with the new purple them, If I am right it starts with a P
[10:26] <ray_> Plymouth
[10:27] <ray_> is that it?
[10:27] <ray_> no, no
[10:27] <UndiFineD> :)
[10:27] <ray_> I must be wrong
[10:27] <ray_> OK, I don't know then
[10:27] <UndiFineD> Unity
[10:27] <ray_> I will look into it
[10:29] <ray_> Is Gnome still being used?, I mean is it a separate kind of thing, or is it a replacement for Gnome?
[10:30] <ray_> OK, it will replace it
[10:30] <ray_> I see
[10:30] <ray_> I wonder how well that will go
[10:31] <ray_> I am pretty used to Gnome but what ever
[10:33] <ray_> Thank you for telling me this
[10:33] <ray_> I will end up trying it, then who knows
[10:35] <ray_> With open suse, it gave people the option to either use gnome or kde, I can only hope that the makers of Ubuntu will have both for download or something like that, but I can see that being a problem because it would take too much time to work on both
[10:35] <UndiFineD> :)
[10:35] <ray_> Well, I don't have much else to say
[10:35] <ray_> take care
[10:35] <UndiFineD> gnome is still there, but as a fallback or switch to option
[10:35] <ray_> Cool
[10:36] <UndiFineD> thanks for telling me
[10:36] <ray_> ty
[10:36] <UndiFineD> it provides some more insight
[10:36] <ray_> I don't know how that helps you
[10:37] <ray_> Hm, I hope recordmydesktop works in the next release of Ubuntu
[10:37] <ray_> I am not sure what caused it not to work for me
[10:38] <ray_> I should try it out before installing the graphics driver of nvidia
[10:38] <ray_> and so on
[10:38] <popey> i have it working on my machine
[10:38] <UndiFineD> well, it provides insight on how well the changes that the community makes are being communicated to you as a user
[10:38] <UndiFineD> hey popey
[10:38] <popey> lo
[10:38] <ray_> Well, I have a fresh install of Ubuntu to try testing it again
[10:39] <ray_> I think I should save that config file for recordmydesktop before doing anything
[10:39] <UndiFineD> backups are always wise to have
[10:40] <popey> :)
[10:40] <ray_> No, I think I remember it not working because of something else, because it worked then I tried it with hydrogen drum machine with jack control then it didn't work
[10:40] <UndiFineD> popey, I still have not received an email about an ubuntu.com email address
[10:41] <popey> you wont
[10:41] <UndiFineD> aha
[10:41] <ray_> I can't remember what I did wrong, so testing testing testing
[10:41] <popey> it just magically works
[10:41] <UndiFineD> ok, so I could just add it to my gmail
[10:41] <popey> i just sent you a test mail
[10:41] <popey> and it hasnt bounced
[10:42] <ray_> alright, take care guys, I am going to chill
[10:42] <ray_> bye
[10:42] <UndiFineD> indeed
[10:43] <UndiFineD> see you ray_
[10:43] <popey> :D
[10:43] <ray_> see ya
[10:43] <popey> that worked then :)
[10:43] <ray_> :p
[10:43] <ray_> :o
[10:43] <ray_> runs
[12:17] <GOMI> can someone tell were to look if i have troubles with my login ?  it keeps kicking me back to login screen ?
[12:17] <GOMI> if you have any ideas just tell me , ill go search for the rest
[12:23] <UndiFineD> hello GOMI
[12:23] <GOMI> UndiFineD,  hey
[12:24] <UndiFineD> so you login and you are getting a desktop and it kicks back to login ?
[12:24] <UndiFineD> or does it just cycle login page
[12:24] <GOMI> yes after working a little , so now am working buts it a matter of time then it kickes me back
[12:25] <GOMI> what do you mean cycle login page
[12:25] <UndiFineD> then one of the open applications is bugging
[12:25] <GOMI> yes i have deleted some stuff like chrome and compiz stuff
[12:26] <UndiFineD> trouble is, there are many applications running when you are on the desktop
[12:26] <GOMI> i know :p thats why i dont really know were to look
[12:26] <UndiFineD> well it even can be your network manager
[12:27] <UndiFineD> what version of ubuntu are you running ?
[12:27] <GOMI> 10.10
[12:27] <UndiFineD> ok, and when did you last update ?
[12:28] <GOMI> not very long ago
[12:28] <UndiFineD> alright, do you know if your internet provider hands out new ip addresses often
[12:28] <UndiFineD> often as in daily
[12:29] <GOMI> no idk
[12:29] <UndiFineD> some providers disconnect their users every 2 hours
[12:29] <GOMI> hmm
[12:30] <UndiFineD> there are so many possibilities here, it is hard to pinpoint what is wrong
[12:31] <UndiFineD> does it happen at regular intervals, or at the same time of the day ?
[12:31] <GOMI> just kicked out :p
[12:31] <UndiFineD> there are so many possibilities here, it is hard to pinpoint what is wrong
[12:31] <UndiFineD> does it happen at regular intervals, or at the same time of the day ?
[12:32] <GOMI> you know when i click something somethimes i see a white border on de screen flickering once
[12:32] <GOMI> left and right
[12:32] <GOMI> every time i work on it , ive been looking for 2weeks now
[12:33] <UndiFineD> [13:30] <GOMI> just kicked out :p
[12:33] <UndiFineD> it might be a crontab job that goes wrong
[12:33] <GOMI> cant i see it in log files ?
[12:34] <UndiFineD> sometimes
[12:35] <UndiFineD> system -> administration -> logfile viewer
[12:35] <GOMI> yes am looking now :p
[12:36] <GOMI> 12:47:14 Gomi bonobo-activation-server (hanazuki-1937): could not associate with desktop session: Error connecting: Connection refused
[12:36] <GOMI> Apr 14 12:47:22 Gomi pulseaudio[2124]: pid.c: Stale PID file, overwriting.
[12:37] <GOMI> what is that bonobo server ?
[12:37] <UndiFineD> http://linux.die.net/man/1/bonobo-activation-server
[12:39] <UndiFineD> so something goes wrong with that, it might be your graphics card drivers or some corruption in bonobo
[12:39] <UndiFineD> dont worry about pulseaudio
[12:40] <GOMI> oke am doing a search for common error with bonobo
[13:07] <xskydevilx> Does anyone know how to make an .ISO image of a disc?
[13:29] <hobgoblin> anyone in here anygood with mpd clients? mpd starts, library reads - clients refuse to play though
[16:14] <aztek> hi duanedesign
[16:25] <loranger> Hi Guys, I just plugged my camera into the computer to download pictures but I cannot find it to open it. Nothing popped up and I cannot figure out where to go to open the camera in the menus .... any help appreciated
[16:27] <loranger> anybody ????
[16:29] <bioterror> dmesg in terminal
[16:29] <bioterror> look if kernel sees your camera
[16:30] <bioterror> i would suggest to use card reader
[16:30] <bioterror> its faster, and doesnt consumpt battery
[16:31] <bioterror> definately a card reader
[16:34] <loranger> Ok let me try :)
[16:37] <loranger> ok well I am looking for the dmesg in terminal but I cannot locate the Terminal ( yeah I am kinda useless at this my brother installed it on my PC and I am having a hard time with it )
[17:32] <joegutting123> Hello, I'm new and I'm trying to set up a mail server.  I've been following this howto:  PostfixVirtualMailBoxClamSmtpHowto  and get all the way through, but it seems to be hanging on the authentication.  Anyone familiar with this?
[18:18] <clarkthehardy910> hello beginner support team and thank you for your time. I'm trying to learn how to use scripts and launchers to create a shortcut to starting my openvpn in the terminal, so that my girl friend can use it without having to know all the commands, is there a way to do this so it can be started with one click?
[18:19] <clarkthehardy910> I've been reading linuxcommand.org but it's a little over my head and a bit too detailed
[18:23] <charlie-tca> clarkthehardy910: not knowing how to start openvpn myself, I would start by creating a file with the commands you use listed one per line.
[18:24] <charlie-tca> name it something like "startopenvpn" and change the properties so it is executable (chmod 755 ) works
[18:24] <clarkthehardy910> @charlie thank you
[18:25] <charlie-tca> Then create a launcher with the file name as the command to run, including the path (~/startopenvpn)
[18:25] <charlie-tca> Starting point, anyway
[18:25] <clarkthehardy910> charlie-tca: one command per line, right?  does it matter which directory I save the file in? and extension?
[18:26] <charlie-tca> one command per line, save it in ~/  normally, which is your user home
[18:26] <clarkthehardy910> charlie-tca: is there an easy way to give it root permissions?
[18:26] <charlie-tca> extension doesn't matter unless you want to add one
[18:26] <clarkthehardy910> on my system openvpn must be run in the etc/openvpn directory
[18:27] <clarkthehardy910> how do I add that command in the script, just with the cd?
[18:29] <clarkthehardy910> charlie-tca: I'm a little confused about the #! comment at the beginning, should I indicate /etc/openvpn in that line?
[18:33] <charlie-tca> make it #!bash
[18:33] <clarkthehardy910> charlie-tca: thank you
[18:33] <charlie-tca> it tells the system what to use to make it work
[18:34] <clarkthehardy910> should I use bin/bash or just bash
[18:34] <clarkthehardy910> #!bin/bash or #!bin/bash
[18:35] <charlie-tca> #!/bin/bash
[18:35] <charlie-tca> I looked this time to get it right
[18:36] <charlie-tca> no spaces either
[18:36] <clarkthehardy910> ok, thank you so much
[18:36] <charlie-tca> That is the only thing on that first line, too
[18:36] <UndiFineD> #!/bin/sh
[18:37] <clarkthehardy910> and how about the sudo and cd commands should I include those as well?
[18:37] <clarkthehardy910> or is that put in the launcher?
[18:38] <charlie-tca> yup
[18:38] <charlie-tca> if you use them, you include them
[18:38] <clarkthehardy910> ok, thanks
[18:39] <UndiFineD> #!/bin/sh
[18:39] <UndiFineD> cd /my/work/path
[18:39] <charlie-tca> you use stuff like       echo "enter a password" to tell the user what to do, too
[18:39] <UndiFineD> sudo something
[18:39] <charlie-tca> echo "enter a password"
[18:39] <charlie-tca> sudo ???
[18:40] <charlie-tca> going to lunch now
[18:40] <clarkthehardy910> charlie-tca: do you mean it is automatically root?
[18:40] <clarkthehardy910> if I give it permission which chmod?
[18:41] <clarkthehardy910> UndiFineD: are you saying sh because of the kind of command it is?
[18:42] <UndiFineD> no, it is because it make it more os independant
[18:42] <UndiFineD> often /bin/sh exists
[18:43] <UndiFineD> being either a symlink or shell
[18:43] <UndiFineD> even on solaris
[18:43] <clarkthehardy910> ok, so I will put sh
[18:44] <UndiFineD> clarkthehardy910, be sure to read about ksh and tcsh shells if you need to make your script os independant
[18:44] <UndiFineD> some commands are not available on other unixes while they are on linux
[18:45] <clarkthehardy910> UndiFineD: its not os independent, it is only for my computer
[18:45] <UndiFineD> well, it is always fun to learn about it
[18:45] <clarkthehardy910> UndiFineD: I just want to make a simple click for my girl friend to start it, so that she doens't have to type in the commands
[18:45] <clarkthehardy910> when she wants to start the vpn
[18:45] <UndiFineD> true
[18:45] <clarkthehardy910> we live in China
[18:45] <clarkthehardy910> and without the vpn
[18:45] <clarkthehardy910> no access to facebook, youtube
[18:46] <clarkthehardy910> hulu etc
[18:46] <bioterror> clarkthehardy910, you cant watch back to the future any more, or quantum leap :(
[18:46] <clarkthehardy910> hahaha
[18:46] <clarkthehardy910> so im a pretty busy beginner
[18:46] <clarkthehardy910> and would really like to get this done so that when she wakes up in the morning, she can just click and boom can check her facebook
[18:47] <UndiFineD> soon, wifi is strong enough to cover 1000s of kilometers
[18:47] <clarkthehardy910> =) nice
[18:47] <bioterror> UndiFineD, what are you taking? :D
[18:47] <UndiFineD> coffee
[18:47] <bioterror> I'll ordere the same
[18:48] <UndiFineD> senseo dark raos
[18:48] <clarkthehardy910> so its this good: #!bin/bash
[18:48] <clarkthehardy910> cd /etc/openvpn
[18:48] <UndiFineD> roast
[18:48] <clarkthehardy910> openvpn --config ibVPN\ US-Washington.ovpn
[18:48] <UndiFineD> seems good
[18:48] <UndiFineD> or maybe add the sudo
[18:48] <UndiFineD> or gksu for graphics
[18:49] <UndiFineD> gksudo
[18:49] <clarkthehardy910> so I need to add the sudo plus the passcode  right?
[18:49] <clarkthehardy910> or if i dont add it, will it ask for it in the terminal?
[18:49] <clarkthehardy910> openvpn is a terminal based program
[18:49] <UndiFineD> sudo openvpn --config ibVPN\ US-Washington.ovpn
[18:50] <clarkthehardy910> ok, thanks
[18:50] <clarkthehardy910> an empty line between #!bin/bash and cd /etc/openvpn
[18:50] <clarkthehardy910> or no line?
[18:50] <UndiFineD> bioterror, even the old class A wifi was used (boosted) to communicate with the ISS
[18:51] <UndiFineD> does not matter
[18:51] <UndiFineD> but be sure that is /bin/bash
[18:52] <UndiFineD> the / are important
[18:53] <clarkthehardy910> ok, i did it and it changed colors
[18:53] <clarkthehardy910> is that a good sign?
[18:53] <bioterror> #!/bin/bash
[18:53] <clarkthehardy910> but now when i try to chmod 755 filename
[18:53] <clarkthehardy910> it says it cannot access it
[18:53] <clarkthehardy910> i gave it the filename startwashvpn
[18:54] <clarkthehardy910> maybe its in the wrong directory
[18:54] <bioterror> UndiFineD, must be fast wifi then to ISS
[18:55] <clarkthehardy910>  ~ is root
[18:55] <UndiFineD> bioterror, yes, burst traffic with ham like fallback
[18:55] <clarkthehardy910> chmod: cannot access 'startwashvpn': no such file or directory
[18:55] <clarkthehardy910> what's wrong?
[18:55] <UndiFineD> the file is not where you say it is
[18:56] <UndiFineD> chmod 750 ~/startwashvpn
[18:56] <clarkthehardy910> ok
[18:56] <UndiFineD> rwxrw----
[19:00] <clarkthehardy910> ok, the chmod worked, but now when I test the script I get bash:startwashvpn:command not found
[19:00] <clarkthehardy910> i did a dir
[19:00] <clarkthehardy910> and the file is in my ~ folder
[19:04] <clarkthehardy910> nevermind!
[19:04] <clarkthehardy910> I used create launcher with it and it works!
[19:04] <clarkthehardy910> UndiFineD: thank you!
[19:04] <clarkthehardy910> bioterror: thanks to you too!
[19:04] <clarkthehardy910> charlie-tca: thanks to you for helping get started!
[19:04] <clarkthehardy910> UndiFineD: you are a great help, thanks!
[19:04] <clarkthehardy910> bioterror: thank you too!
[19:04] <UndiFineD> :)
[19:04] <bioterror> I did nothing? :D
[19:05] <UndiFineD> you were here, thats what counts
[19:05] <UndiFineD> in spirit :P
[19:05] <clarkthehardy910> exactly
[19:05] <clarkthehardy910> thanks and have a great day
[19:05] <clarkthehardy910> going to bed now
[19:15] <faouzi> hey
[22:09] <mihaita99> Did they solve the HDD heating up bug in Ubuntu?
[22:11] <holstein> maybe thats specific to some particular hardware
[22:11] <holstein> mihaita99: whats the bug#?
[22:12] <mihaita99> the hard disk of my laptop used to heat up extremely without reason, just reading an article
[22:12] <mihaita99> the HDD was spinning continously
[22:12] <holstein> intersting
[22:12] <holstein> whats the bug#?
[22:12] <holstein> did you file it?
[22:13] <mihaita99> It was long time ago, 2 years ago, I don't remember
[22:13] <mihaita99> many people had that bug on laptops
[22:13] <mihaita99> yes, I filed it, of course
[22:14] <holstein> you can see it in your LP account
[22:14] <holstein> your bugs list
[22:14] <holstein> lets look and see
[22:14] <holstein> maybe its specific to certain hardware
[22:15] <mihaita99> http://markmail.org/message/bbffjpzjajdbv6wo
[22:15] <mihaita99> there is the bug, I found it
[22:16] <holstein> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/399978
[22:16] <holstein> ^ ?
[22:17] <mihaita99> yes
[22:17] <mihaita99> that the bug
[22:17] <mihaita99> yes
[22:18] <mihaita99> 399978
[22:18] <holstein> your elena09?
[22:18] <mihaita99> no
[22:19] <mihaita99> a friend
[22:19] <holstein> is it still happening to you?
[22:19] <holstein> did it ever happen to you?
[22:19] <mihaita99> I thought it was solved
[22:19] <holstein> what kernel was it?
[22:19] <mihaita99> it happened to me too, of course
[22:20] <holstein> did you or your friend try any mainline kernel tests?
[22:20] <mihaita99> Ubuntu 9.04
[22:20] <holstein> an easy way to test is with the live CD's
[22:20] <holstein> you should be able to just DL an iso
[22:20] <holstein> burn it or make a bootable USB
[22:20] <holstein> and get to the live desktop
[22:20] <mihaita99> I tried many things, and the community guided me, but useless
[22:21] <holstein> mihaita99: so it still happens with the 11.04 live CD?
[22:21] <mihaita99> I don't know, was the bug solved in 11.04?
[22:21] <holstein> well, i havent encountered the bug
[22:22] <holstein> so i can confirm that for your hardware
[22:22] <holstein> but, you could
[22:22] <holstein> since you seem to have the hardware in question
[22:22] <holstein> and its relatively easy to test
[22:23] <mihaita99> can I test it without deleting windows?
[22:23] <holstein> sure
[22:23] <holstein> its a live CD
[22:23] <mihaita99> ok
[22:23] <holstein> you download the iso
[22:23] <mihaita99> ok
[22:23] <holstein> either burn it to cd
[22:23] <holstein> or make a live USB
[22:23] <holstein> and boot it
[22:23] <holstein> and *dont* install
[22:23] <holstein> just try it live
[22:24] <mihaita99> my hdd is cold now and I've used it for many hours, all day long
[22:24] <holstein> theres a lot of attitude in that bug report
[22:24] <holstein> i see my friend jeremy closed it out
[22:24] <mihaita99> attitude?
[22:24] <holstein> i could always mention it to him
[22:25] <holstein> yeah, from Elena09
[22:25] <holstein> i mean, a large percentage of what happens in ubuntu is voluntary
[22:25] <holstein> and tracking down these bugs is sometimes very challening
[22:26] <mihaita99> oh, I know, understand now
[22:26] <holstein> and requires a lot of patients
[22:26] <holstein> BUT, it can happen
[22:26] <holstein> and does happen
[22:26] <mihaita99> I know, she switched back to windows, but I'm stubborn
[22:26] <holstein> you just need to file a bug, and be persistent about it
[22:26] <holstein> hey, whatever works
[22:26] <mihaita99> I'll try 11.04
[22:26] <holstein> im just reading, and trying to see whats up there
[22:27] <holstein> ive never heard about hard drives getting hot
[22:27] <holstein> so, i can assume its going to be a small hardware base
[22:27] <holstein> some ide controller
[22:27] <holstein> or specific hard drive
[22:27] <holstein> or something
[22:28] <holstein> that the kernel is not communicating with well
[22:28] <mihaita99> hard disk driver?
[22:29] <holstein> that or something on the way to it
[22:29] <holstein> very plausible
[22:30] <mihaita99> so, where should I go, to the hdd manufacturer? Or laptop's?
[22:31] <holstein> if i were you
[22:31] <holstein> i would just test with the latest kernel
[22:31] <holstein> and go from there
[22:32] <mihaita99> ok, thanks a lot for your patience
[22:32] <mihaita99> I'll test it
[22:32] <holstein> mihaita99: anytime
[22:32] <holstein> enjoy
[22:32] <mihaita99> bye bye
[23:00] <disorient> i am having trouble adding users in ftpd, it will allow my account with sudo but not my other users.