[06:11] <Abhijit> hi guys
[06:11] <Abhijit> i cannot find where to submit bug for cairo dock? should i just submit it in laucnhadpad?
[06:11] <Abhijit> aaah
[06:11] <Abhijit> launchpad i mean
[08:44] <chalcedony> the other night syn-ack asked me to come back if i was having the same error attaching things to mails
[08:44] <chalcedony> i am having a VERY frustrating night
[08:50] <chalcedony> i made several screenshots of mail problems where do you want them?
[09:45] <xelister> hi, vmbuilder is riddled with bugs, can someone get on it? found so far 3 bugs making it useless
[09:46] <xelister> the --part bug (workaround exists), the --tmp= bug (workaround), and now new bug:  mktemp: failed to create directory via template `./TMP/mkinitramfs_XXXXXX': No such file or directory
[09:47] <TeTeT> xelister: you want to talk to soren on #ubuntu-server, he's the upstream maintainer afaik - maybe he has some fixes in PPA or so
[09:51] <jibel> xelister, do you have TMPDIR set to something like './TMP' ?
[09:52] <xelister> jibel: yes
[09:52] <jibel> what's the output of : echo $TMPDIR
[09:52] <xelister> ./TMP
[09:52] <jibel> if you unset it before using vmbuilder ?
[09:52] <xelister> of course not
[09:52] <xelister> why would I
[09:53] <xelister> vmbuilder fails to support --tmp= flag. It's one screwup, bug report exists
[09:53] <xelister> a work around is to set TMPDIR
[09:53] <xelister> perhaps the workaround for lack of -tmp= flag screws up later installation?
[09:54] <jibel> xelister, vmbuilder could ensure that the tmp directory exists instead of failing this way. Did you file a bug ?
[09:54] <xelister> yeah we will fill the bug
[09:55] <xelister> reall... trying to use vmware for 3 days (on i7, on small /tmp) and found 3 bugs so far :<
[09:55] <xelister> making it unusable
[09:57] <jibel> sorry to hear that, but submitting a bug report is the best way to give it some visibility and get a fix.
[09:57] <xelister> Y U NO QA
[10:01] <jibel> xelister, the lack of --tmp is bug 539231
[10:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 539231 in vm-builder (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "--tmp / -t option isn't available in python-vm-builder 0.12.2-0ubuntu3 (affects: 6) (dups: 1) (heat: 36)" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539231
[14:08] <AndrewMC> If a bug is marked as duplicate does Launchpad automatically send the notification that it has been marked as a duplicate or do I have to add a comment with the message from the replies page (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses)
[14:11] <charlie-tca> You ;should always add a comment when you do anything to a bug, change status, importance, dup, etc
[14:30] <hggdh> you know, xelister's aggressiveness is starting to get on my nerver
[14:30] <hggdh> nerves
[14:41] <charlie-tca> yes, that is one of those I am staying away from
[14:41] <dpm> pedro_, do you know if the version from ubuntu-qa-tools from the repos is the recommended one to use? I was trying to use it for the translations bug day, and it gives me AssertionError: whenever I try to run 'hugday list' or 'hugday close ####'
[14:43] <pedro_> dpm, it is the recommended one, let me try here
[14:43] <dpm> pedro_, (for the record I did the init part as well, giving it the user id's and the FF cookie)
[14:44] <dpm> and I manually edited the config file to point to today's bug day wiki page, as hugday current returns a wikipage for tomorrow
[14:47] <pedro_> dpm, seeing the same here...
[14:48] <dpm> pedro_, actually, only 'hugday list' gives me assertion error. 'hugday close' tells me I cannot change the content of the wiki page, so I guess the cookie path was not stored or something?
[14:48] <pedro_> thekorn, may you please have a look to the hugday tool? the list and close options aren't working :-(
[14:49] <pedro_> dpm, that could be it, close works here
[14:50] <pedro_> dpm, check the content of ~/.hugday_config
[14:50] <pedro_> to see if the moin_id is the same as the one in the browser you're using
[14:51] <pedro_> thekorn, actually is just the list option that is returning 'AssertionError:' but nothing else
[14:53] <dpm> pedro_, yeah, the id in the config file is the same as the one I'm using (dpm). Not sure what's going on, but I remember having problems setting up the cookie every time I use the hugday tool
[14:55] <TeTeT> hggdh: I had no idea that he'd jump on server and start throwing insults at soren
[15:00] <pedro_> dpm, check if the cookie is the same in firefox -> go to preferences -> privacy and click on remove cookies individually
[15:00] <pedro_> dpm, there search for wiki.ubuntu.com and the name of the cookie is MOIN_SESSION
[15:01] <pedro_> the content of it should be the same as the one in hugday_config if it's not , just copy & paste that to hugday_config
[15:02] <dpm> pedro_, ah, good point, let me check. The problem is that hugday_config does not have a value at all for the cookie, so could it be that --init does not write it to the config file?
[15:03] <pedro_> dpm, it should do it, probably the path wasn't the correct one when you ran it
[15:07] <dpm> pedro_, so what am I supposed to give to the --cookie option? I gave it /home/dpm/.mozilla/firefox/blahblah/cookies.sqlite, but it does not write it to the config file
[15:12] <pedro_> dpm, that sounds like a right path, i'll try to recreate the issue here
[15:12] <dpm> I've also closed the browser when running the init command, as recommended in the wiki, but it did not make a difference
[15:20] <xelister> thanks hggdh
[15:20] <xelister> it gets on my nerves when packages is in ubuntu and then it turns out it has bugs make it not usable, and that bugs are reported months ago
[15:21] <xelister> perhaps such packages should be just removed fro Ubuntu and replaced with messages explaining there is no version that can be claimed workable at given moment or something
[15:22] <dpm> pedro_, ah, it works now. I had to look at the code to see what was going on. I thought the wiki-id parameter was my username, but it was the MOIN_ID. So skipping the --wiki-id parameter and passing --cookie all is fine, albeit a bit confusing
[15:23] <thekorn> omg, the hugday tool is causing troubles again ;)
[15:23] <pedro_> dpm, maybe we should clarify that on the wiki page ;-)
[15:25] <dpm> definitely, or just make the options mutually exclusive (or just drop --wiki-id) in the code
[15:25] <thekorn> pedro_: okidoki, I've the AssertionError too, fixing it now
[15:26] <pedro_> thekorn, thanks a bunch
[15:32] <thekorn> pedro_: fixed in lp:hugday-tools
[15:35] <pedro_> thekorn, you're the best! thanks
[16:07] <hggdh> TeTeT: he nearing the end of my patience here as well
[16:08] <hggdh> xelister: it may get on your nerves. But I would like you to tone down your comments. Attacking others, either their works or personally, will not help you
[16:09] <hggdh> xelister: please consider this a first warning
[16:10] <xelister> well ok
[16:11] <xelister> actually we worked a bit with one of guys hallyn to resolve this
[16:11] <xelister> hggdh: buy is there no action here in Ubuntu's side
[16:12] <xelister> like, some meeting when you guys look at all the bugs and say oh dang, so many packets have critical bugs, we need to change something or we can't claim we provide a good platform
[16:13] <xelister> why bugs lie there months unresolved, aren't there developers to fix that? perhaps ubuntu should sponsor some bounties to unbug programs
[16:14] <hggdh> perhaps you could also -- Ubuntu is a community project. But all I see you do is come in, rant for a while nothing is being done, and go out
[16:15] <hggdh> and anyone can work on any bug. But there are not enough developers to work on all bugs
[16:16] <hggdh> so please _help_. If you want to rant, go elsewhere, a blog, email deve-discuss, whatever. But do NOT rant here.
[16:17] <xelister> meh ok.
[16:17] <hggdh> you have been warned.
[16:19] <mr_pouit> "email deve-discuss"... that's nice, awesome piece of advice (if you don't want rant here, maybe other people don't want them there neither)
[16:22] <hggdh> mr_pouit: he is complaining about "developers not working". devel-discuss is a good point to raise this. I can probably imagine what will happen, and so can you. But I can at least hope he will have the good sense of
[16:22] <hggdh> presenting his case without ranting.
[16:23] <hggdh> otherwise he will be, I hope, ignored
[17:57] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: I've noticed that if you home page is set to about:startpage and the search dropdown box isn't set to google or yahoo you get a 404.  Where should that be filed?
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray, ubuntu-start-page
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> it should redirect that
[17:58] <bdmurray> chrisccoulson: that's a project?
[17:58] <chrisccoulson> bdmurray, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-start-page
[18:02] <abhinav-> hey guys, can someone please triage this bug ? bug 757635
[18:02] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 757635 in tomboy (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "Hitting delete key while focus in search box triggers deletion of note (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/757635
[18:03] <abhinav-> thanks :)
[19:30] <htorque> om26er: hi, i wouldn't say auto-scroll fixes bug 691715, but i'm not getting it anymore anyway :)
[19:30] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 691715 in unity (Ubuntu) (and 2 other projects) "Trash launcher fails to expand when entering launcher at bottommost pixel (affects: 2) (heat: 14)" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/691715
[19:31] <om26er> htorque, so, should I close it now?
[19:31] <om26er> you can reopen if it happens again, or we could just leave it as it is
[19:31] <htorque> yes, it's fixed
[19:32] <om26er> htorque, closed ;)
[19:33] <htorque> thanks, i'm never sure if it's 'fix released' or just 'invalid' :)
[19:34] <om26er> htorque, invalid is was, gave you respect :p
[19:35] <htorque> om26er: heh ;)
[20:29] <njin> hello, can someone triage bug 761011 . Thanks
[20:29] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 761011 in grub2 (Ubuntu) "Failure on detecting master HD (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/761011
[21:10] <elleuca> can someone take a look and triage https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/761071
[21:10] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 761071 in indicator-datetime (Ubuntu) "Artifacts rendering minutes in gnome-panel (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:20] <elleuca> and another one:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/761094
[21:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 761094 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) ""Download updates while installing" checkbox does nothing (affects: 1) (heat: 6)" [Undecided,New]
[21:27] <bdmurray> elleuca: were the updates available after the install?
[21:27] <bdmurray> er, were there
[21:29] <elleuca> bdmurray, yes, I've used beta2, and xdg-user-dirs and gnome-user-share updates was yet available
[21:31] <bdmurray> elleuca: okay, thanks
[21:58] <bdmurray> elleuca: your ubiquity logs seems incomplete
[21:59] <bdmurray> elleuca: it looks like there was some kind of X crash
[22:02] <elleuca> bdmurray, uh, true, I've launched "ubuntu-bug ubiquity" from live, not installed system... let me run apport collect
[22:09] <elleuca> bdmurray, updated "real" versions, but there was no visible crash while installing: ubiquity has proceeded until "now please restart" dialog
[22:18] <bdmurray> elleuca: it seems possible to me that packages were in the queue to be released since the archive was frozen for beta 2 and bunch could have been released during your install /reboot
[22:20] <elleuca> bdmurray so the only way to triage it is wait for more updates in natty or check the similar feature in 10.10
[22:22] <bdmurray> elleuca: well wait for less updates in natty (since a lot of updates would cause them to be installed during installation and for some to be available after rebooting) or get somebody who can read the ubiquity log files or run ubiquity in debug mode and see if that is more informative
[22:23] <bdmurray> elleuca: it looks to me like it is checking for updates though
[22:23] <bdmurray> Apr 14 19:45:11 ubuntu in-target: Get:3 http://extras.ubuntu.com natty/main Sources [14 B]
[22:24] <bdmurray> Apr 14 19:49:22 ubuntu ubiquity: #015Get:16 http://it.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ natty/main openoffice.org-hyphenation all 0.6 [305 kB]
[22:29] <charlie-tca> My understanding of that option is that it will download the updates it finds during the installation, and store them. It will not install the updates until after the installation is complete and the user tells it to.
[22:29] <charlie-tca> but I do not remember if it had to be done before a restart.
[22:29] <elleuca> bdmurray of course it checks, but no download :/
[22:32] <bdmurray> no openoffice.org-hyphenation was installed
[22:33] <bdmurray> see lines 1357-1361 of your UbiquitySyslog.gz
[22:33] <bdmurray> that might have been just localization related and not an update though
[23:32] <dlbike76> Hello.  Is there a way in launchpad to get a list of only bugs that affect a certain release level?
[23:34] <bdmurray> what do you mean by release level?
[23:38] <bdmurray> dlbike76: what do you mean by release level?