[09:51] <airurando> morning all.
[09:56] <slashtom> good morning!
[09:56] <slashtom> is it death to the ubuntu hour?
[09:59] <airurando> ha ha
[09:59] <airurando> to be decided at a meeting I think
[10:00] <airurando> shame really
[10:00] <airurando> I can see both sides to the story
[10:00] <airurando> UH is different in purpose to PoTD
[10:00]  * slashtom suggests all those who vote to keep it turn up to the Ubuntu Hour
[10:01] <airurando> however that purpose doesn't seem to working here at the moment
[10:01] <airurando> slashtom: good point but that is not always possible
[10:02] <airurando> As I see it PoTD is a social get together for uber linux geeks
[10:03] <slashtom> isn't that what Ubuntu Hour is?
[10:03] <airurando> As far as I know it's not.
[10:04] <airurando> UH is a very social event for users or wamma be users of Ubuntu
[10:04] <airurando> *wanna
[10:04] <airurando> far less uber geeks
[10:04] <slashtom> ok, PoTD is pretty much the same but for all Linux users not just the Ubuntu ones
[10:04] <airurando> drop in event for folks to find out more about Ubuntu
[10:05] <slashtom> has that happened?
[10:05] <airurando> yeah but I'd argue that PoTD is a lot more intimidating to wanna be ubuntu users.
[10:06] <airurando> has that happened? no you are absolutely right
[10:06] <airurando> and that is the problem
[10:06] <airurando> maybe we haven't promoted it right?
[10:07] <airurando> maybe Irish folks are not interested enough to attend one?
[10:07] <airurando>  maybe Irish wanna be users are to shy or not confident enough to attend one?
[10:07] <airurando> lots of possibilities
[10:08] <slashtom> or people who want to find out more or solve their problems are using the internet?
[10:08] <airurando> indeed
[10:08] <airurando> as I said slashtom I see both sides.
[10:08] <airurando> It's not working for us at present for whatever reason.
[10:09] <airurando> but UH is a seperate type of event to PoTD.
[10:19] <airurando> slashtom: see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Hour
[10:19] <airurando> first line states what UH should be.
[10:32] <slashtom> if you want to be different to PoTD...
[10:32] <slashtom> why not a coffee shop, first saturday of the month or something
[10:33] <airurando> aye indeed
[10:34] <airurando> slashtom: Its not that I or we want to be different from PoTD.
[10:34] <airurando> simply UH is an event with a different purpose.
[10:34] <airurando> thats all I'm saying
[10:36] <airurando> speaking as one of those lesser geeks UH was more apealing to me that PoTD.
[10:39] <ebel> hmm, regular weekend coffee shop...
[11:20] <airurando> anyone going to oggcamp?
[12:04] <ShaneM> airurando: Yep
[12:28] <airurando> Hi ShaneM
[12:28] <airurando> good for you.
[12:28] <airurando> do you know modes of transportation from Gatwick to Farnham
[12:30] <slashtom> http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/
[12:30] <airurando> in fact does anyone know the best way to get from Gatwick to Farnham?
[12:31] <airurando> thanks slashtom.
[12:31] <ShaneM> airurando: I've no idea to be honest.
[12:31] <ShaneM> airurando: I'm going to try and get a flight from Cork.
[12:32] <slashtom> i would have thought heathrow would be better
[12:32] <slashtom> but out of the cheap airports, gatwick would be much better than luton or stansted
[12:32] <airurando> ShaneM: I'm mulling over the possibility
[12:33] <airurando> slashtom: really?
[12:34] <slashtom> unless you get a hire car from gatwick
[12:34] <ShaneM> airurando: I haven't really looked at anything yet to be honest.
[12:35] <ShaneM> Probably will at the end of the month or so
[12:36] <ebel> gatwick is a larger airport
[12:36] <ebel> and has a trainstation
[12:36] <ebel> you can get from gatwick to the center of london on the gatwick express for something like £15 ?
[12:36] <slashtom> heathrow is not bad either
[12:36] <ebel> train station is right in the airport
[12:37] <ebel> heathrow has a tube station in it
[12:37] <slashtom> but best to avoid luton and stansted
[12:37] <slashtom> it does
[12:37] <ebel> birmingham airport also has a train station in it, real easy to get into birmingham city centre from the airport
[12:37] <airurando> rudimentary understanding of the map of the area.  Thought Gatwick would be best.
[12:37] <airurando> so long as transport was available to farnham
[12:38] <slashtom> airurando: from gatwick you're going via central london
[12:39] <slashtom> even by car, it's longer as you would be going via motorway
[12:39] <slashtom> i don't know about heathrow
[12:40]  * airurando knows nothing 
[12:40] <airurando> :(
[12:41] <airurando> not sue I can swing it yet
[12:41] <airurando> needs to be cheap
[12:41] <slashtom> you know skyscanner.net?
[12:41] <airurando> I am off work for the first time and the flights currently look cheap...hmm
[12:42] <airurando> slashtom; no I don't.
[12:42] <slashtom> remember, no hand luggage ;)
[12:44] <airurando> Eh?
[12:50]  * airurando dashes off to collect the youngest kid from school
[13:35] <ebel> airurando: i.e. fly with a budget airline and only take hand luggage
[13:35] <ebel> makes the flights might cheaper
[15:06] <airurando> I see the Zorin OS guys are branching into hardware.
[15:06] <airurando> http://zorinpc.com/
[15:06] <airurando> Good luck to them.
[15:10] <airurando> ebel: if I'm going that was my plan it's just slashtoms last statement said remember, no hand luggage ;)
[15:11] <airurando> presume that was just sarcasm?
[15:11] <ebel> hehe he probabaly mistyped
[15:11] <ebel> My mum fly *loads* of times with a check in bag. twas silly
[15:11] <ebel> once the bag-on-wheels weighed 7 kg.
[15:11] <ebel> she was paying €20 for that.
[15:12] <ebel> sometimes people can forget about these things...
[15:15] <slashtom> aye, my mum gets no choice... i book her flights
[15:15] <slashtom> ebel: your sister is just as bad