[00:22] <eamon> Is Tm_T here?
[00:22] <LjL> he's been idle for 10 hours
[00:23] <eamon> ok thanks
[02:27] <h00k> Taking abuse in a PM
[02:27] <rww> from?
[02:27] <rww> ah, #ubuntu.
[02:28] <h00k> DroidVicious
[02:40] <genii-around> /whois DroidVicious
[02:40] <h00k> Isn't taking a cluebat.
[02:41] <genii-around> Hm
[02:42] <h00k> I'm trying, I'm not sure thy're familiar with how #ubuntu support usually goes, they think they got jumped on
[02:44] <rww> I was surprised the bot repeated herself.
[02:51] <h00k> @login
[02:51] <h00k> @btlogin
[02:52] <h00k> well, I added the conversation to the bantracker.
[02:52] <h00k> I tried *really* hard.
[02:53] <h00k> I'm not sure I ever reached out that far
[02:54] <h00k> Got frustrated at one point :(
[02:57] <IdleOne> you tried, he didn't want to hear it.
[02:57] <h00k> Apparently not. Oh well.
[02:57] <h00k> I *almost* asked him to ask me the question
[02:58] <IdleOne> h00k: sometimes you just got to use the olive branch and hit them with it.
[02:58] <IdleOne> :)
[03:00] <h00k> and is now telling me they're going to ban-evade.
[03:00] <IdleOne> ok
[03:01] <IdleOne> maybe they will read the guidelines, ban evade and follow guidelines
[03:01] <h00k> updated ban comment.
[03:01] <IdleOne> in 6 months when we clear the ban list he can stop evading
[03:04] <rww> I can clear the banlist now if you want.
[03:04] <IdleOne> go ahead
[03:04] <h00k> the whole thing. yes.
[03:04] <h00k> no.
[03:04] <rww> wouldn't take but a minute
[03:04] <h00k> rww: I'd leave you there to deal with everything when the floodgates open :(
[03:05] <h00k> because I know everyone's constantly knocking, rite?
[06:30] <bazhang> crum and totem seem to be problematic
[06:30] <hypatia> yeah, i'm watching them
[06:30] <hypatia> totem has shut up now that they've been told to stop, it seems
[06:30] <bazhang> crum PM'd me ostensibly to learn about hdd, then abruptly switched to "where can I download ebooks"
[06:31] <hypatia> oh dear :/
[06:32] <bazhang> and the IV language seems semi-trolliastic
[06:32] <hypatia> yeah, next crap from crum will get a warning from me
[06:32] <jrib> hello hypatia
[06:33] <jrib> I have no clue who you are but I'm usually not up at 1:30 in the morning :)
[06:36] <hypatia> i usually am :/
[06:37] <bazhang> so he's going for the full on troll then
[06:37] <jrib> waiting for some code to finish running so I can sleep :(
[07:00] <Tm_T> morning
[07:02] <rww> tempted to !notreally-#ubuntu-offtopic > kannan_
[10:45] <gnomefreak> if someone has time or a better idea please add bug 685552 to the topic in +1im about to leave aand i still said no need to unyil my work is done
[10:49] <bazhang> so larstorben is now torbenlars
[10:49] <bazhang> missed his issue the other day. was it polling?
[11:08] <eamon> Hello, is Tm_T here?
[11:21] <Tm_T> hi
[11:21] <Tm_T> eamon: hi
[12:01] <eamon> Tm_T: hello
[12:03] <Tm_T> eamon: hi, we were supposed to discuss about your ban, correct?
[12:04] <eamon> Tm_T: yes, that's right
[12:05] <LjL> YankDownUnder being unfriendly again... i will leave it because i don't want to argue on the metaphysics of offtopicness, but to me an innocent question about xchat seems ontopic enough :\
[12:06] <Tm_T> eamon: ok, do you remember why you were banned?
[12:06] <eamon> Tm_T: yes
[12:06] <Tm_T> and that was?
[12:06] <eamon> BAd language
[12:07] <Tm_T> you aknowledge that we do not allow such behaviour?
[12:07] <eamon> Yes.
[12:08] <Tm_T> eamon: you promise it won't happen again?
[12:09] <eamon> certainly.
[12:09] <eamon> I promise
[12:10] <Tm_T> good, thanks. I'm willing to let you in, but keep in mind that being in #ubuntu means you have to follow our guidelines.
[12:11] <eamon> Ok, thank you Tm_T I'll abide by the rules.
[12:11] <Tm_T> thanks
[12:11] <Tm_T> eamon: let me know if you cannot enter the channel now
[12:11] <eamon> I still can't enter
[12:13] <eamon> Tm_T
[12:14] <Tm_T> eamon: try now
[12:14] <eamon> Tm_T: working. thank you
[12:23] <LjL> @mark #ubuntu-offtopic Ginbuntu Annoying for the sake of it, absolutely not new to this
[12:25] <Tm_T> ganging against an ennoying person isn't nice either though, make things clear, but leave it at that
[12:25] <LjL> oh for christ's sake
[12:25] <LjL> we've all complained about ginbuntu countless times
[12:25] <LjL> nothing has ever been done about him
[12:25] <Tm_T> I know
[12:25] <Tm_T> I am doing now
[12:26] <LjL> well it's not like he won't stop now, he's not clueless. action is way overdue.
[12:26] <LjL> you can't complain that there is ganging against annoying people when they're left to be annoying for ages
[12:27] <Tm_T> I'm not complaining really, atleast didn't mean it like that
[12:27] <Tm_T> just that I try to keep "there's no excuse for bad behaviour" for everyone
[12:28] <Tm_T> I might be a bit overdemanding on this, considering the nature of that channel
[12:29] <bazhang> yes
[12:29]  * Tm_T huggles all
[12:29] <bazhang> no one was ganging up on him. he was deliberately being provocative
[12:29] <Tm_T> I saw
[12:30] <Tm_T> when someone provokes, it isn't usually best practice to get provoked if you can avoid it
 bazhang: gentoo, but I'm not getting support there
[12:36] <LjL> :\
[12:38] <LjL> bazhang: he's muted
[12:39] <bazhang> LjL, ah okay
[12:39] <ikonia> not again
[12:39] <bazhang> no harm
[12:40] <eamon> Hello I can't speak in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:40] <eamon> Tm_T just unbanned me an hour or so ago, I think my mute wasn't revoked
[12:41] <LjL> i think the #ubuntu-offtopic mute was set by someone else, though
[12:41] <eamon> can you unmute me please LjL?
[12:42] <LjL> no eamon, i'm not an operator in that channel. someone else might possibly unmute you, however sometimes ops prefer to let the one who set the ban remove it.
[12:42] <ikonia> who set it ? was it me (I'll look)
[12:43] <ikonia> eamon: it may be best if you could use #ubuntu and leave the offtopic channel for a while, show you can use a channel without being an issue
[12:44] <eamon> ikonia: I'm looking for support on an off topic topic and I was invited to continue the conversaion in #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:44] <ikonia> eamon: offtopic isn't a support channel
[12:45] <ikonia> eamon: try asking in the support channel for your problem
[12:45] <eamon> I did but it's not directly related to ubuntu so I was invited to #ubunut-offtopic
[12:45] <ikonia> eamon: really ? what channel did you ask in ?
[12:46] <eamon> #ubuntu
[12:46] <ikonia> eamon: no, what support channel for the product you're using
[12:46] <bazhang> gentoo
[12:46] <ikonia> eg: what channel should you ask in, what's the technology you're having a problem with
[12:47] <eamon> oh, right, I didn't. I guess #alsa, but I'm not sure, it's a usb device
[12:47] <eamon> I'll ask in #alsa
[12:47] <eamon> Thanks, I'll keep the support in support channells
[12:48] <bazhang> odd. he claimed gentoo
[12:48] <ikonia> he was full of nonsense the last time he got banned, hence why I was curious to what he was talking about this time
[13:03] <ikonia> ]/window 14
[13:03] <ikonia> oops
[14:07] <Pici> meh
[14:10]  * jussi huggles Pici
[14:30] <Pici> ugh.
[14:32] <genii-around> Yup.
[14:32] <Pici> Lots of wrong advice being given today.
[14:34] <IdleOne> sorry, I am trying to wake up still :/
[14:34]  * genii-around slides IdleOne a strong coffee
[14:35] <IdleOne> thank you
[14:35] <genii-around> Anytime
[14:36] <dpm> hi Pici, did you have the chance to add #ubuntu-classroom to the list of monitored channels on your site, as we talked yesterday?
[14:37] <Pici> dpm: I got tied up at work, sorry.  Let me take a look right now.
[14:37] <dpm> no worries, thanks Pici!
[18:00] <knome> 19:33 » siavashserver [~Siavash@94.182.20.246] has joined #xubuntu
[18:00] <knome> 19:35  siavashserver: Hi, I'm trying to collect information about Linux gamers hardware specs, if you are interested please take a look at this poll : http://www.misterpoll.com/polls/521555
[18:00] <knome> 19:35 » siavashserver [~Siavash@94.182.20.246] has left #xubuntu []
[18:00] <knome> just for information
[18:00] <Pici> knome: I'd mention it in #freenode
[18:01] <knome> Pici, done.
[18:12] <Crum> Hi
[18:13] <Crum> Can I please be unbanned from #ubuntu-offtopic?
[18:13] <Crum> I think I was banned for being offtopic. I don't remember being banned. I remember leaving the channel yesterday on my own and when I tried to join just now, the status window said I was banned
[18:14] <Pici> Crum: Let me take a look, one moment.
[18:21] <Pici> Crum: Based on the logs, I'm not sure what hypatia was exactly banning you for, I'd prefer for her (or someone else who is familiar with the situation) to proceed with your case.
[18:41] <Crum> oh ok
[18:42] <Crum> please let hypatia that I wish to be unbanned if possible
[20:07] <ikonia> why am I not surprised djean is muted in #mysql as well as #httpd
[20:08] <gnomefreak> not sure? but im not sure why people do alot of what people do :(
[20:08]  * gnomefreak gave up on being suprised
[20:34] <gnomefreak> is this one of ours? ubuntulo1 and is it log bot?
[20:35] <ikonia> yes
[20:35] <gnomefreak> well its ours. but it doesnt know bugs
[20:35] <gnomefreak> can i get a regular bot in #ubuntu-mozillateam please
[20:41] <gnomefreak> ikonia: where are all the bots or even the ops that run them?
[20:42] <ikonia> ubottu's around, #ubuntu-bots-devel is always a good place, but everyone seems away at the moment
[20:42] <LjL> ^fail
[20:42] <rww> !forget 's around, #ubuntu-bots-devel
[20:42] <ikonia> idiot bot
[20:42] <ikonia> !around
[20:42] <rww> !forget s around, #ubuntu-bots-devel
[20:42] <ikonia> I even put ubottu's not ubottu so it would ignore me
[20:42] <rww> !fail
[20:44] <gnomefreak> i saw Pic-i a while ago but i didnt notice the bot was gone
[20:44] <ikonia> I've not until you said a few minutes ago
[20:44] <rww> The ubots have been disappearing recently :|
[20:44]  * rww thought that was jpds's turf
[20:46] <gnomefreak> i dont have a clue who has domain over bots, but honestly the ubots are not as smart as ubottu
[20:46] <LjL> for ubottu, you want jussi and tsimpson i believe
[20:46] <Pici> I am not a robot.
[20:47] <LjL> or ask in #ubuntu-bots-team
[20:47] <gnomefreak> ah
[20:48] <Tm_T> this wikipage has the bots and their contacts listed: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots
[20:56] <ikonia> matt__: thanks for joining
[20:56] <matt__> No problem.
[20:56] <ikonia> matt__: just wanted to ask you to change your "Real name" in your IRC client, I don't think "Fuck you" as a real name is something the users of #ubuntu and #ubuntu+1 should be seeing as a name
[20:56] <matt__> Im really sorry, after the last install I didnt think it would work. In all honesty thats not me.
[20:57] <ikonia> well, could you please change it
[20:57] <matt__> Its changed
[20:58] <ikonia> matt__: it's not, you'll need to restart you client for the change to take affect
[20:58] <matt__> alrighty ill be back.
[20:59] <matt__> I am back.
[20:59] <ikonia> matt__: that looks much better, thank you
[21:01] <matt__> so it crashed, now im back
[21:02] <ikonia> that's fine, thank you for changing the real name
[21:02] <matt__> Thanks again for understanding.
[21:02] <matt__> Very welcome.
[21:05] <matt__> Not to be pushy or anything of that matter. I respect patience, and the time somebody on here will spend with me. But do you know what I should do?
[21:07] <ikonia> matt__: you should ask in #ubuntu+1 and if someone knows the answer, they will help you
[21:09] <ikonia> matt__: now that we are done in this channel, it's requested you leave the channel please, so we can assist other users who need help
[21:13]  * LjL wonders about marsfligth
[21:31] <gnomefreak> thats the matt_ guy?
[21:31] <ikonia> yes
[21:32] <charlie-tca> Can we update the topic in #ubuntu+1; release announcement is out and wubi is fixed for natty
[21:32] <ikonia> of course....I don't want to though as the next round of early adopters will lap it up
[21:33] <charlie-tca> heh
[21:33] <charlie-tca> they been waiting all day for it
[21:33] <gnomefreak> who ever does it please add a link to bug 685552 please
[21:33]  * gnomefreak has to tend to dog feed|walk
[21:33] <ikonia> this is the sort of reason why matt__ (and people like him) shouldn't be using the beta
[21:33] <charlie-tca> yup
[21:33] <ikonia> charlie-tca: I'll do it give me 5 minus
[21:33] <ikonia> mins
[21:33] <charlie-tca> no problem.
[23:37] <rww> charlie-tca: #ubuntu+1 topic updated
[23:38] <rww> I left that bug link out, since I don't see how it's worse than the other crasher bugs I see on natty right now ;P
[23:39] <charlie-tca> Thanks, but can we remove the wubi comment, too. It is fixed in natty beta2
[23:39] <rww> done
[23:39] <charlie-tca> Thank you very much!
[23:40] <rww> no problem :)
[23:40] <rww> I once again note (and this doesn't apply to charlie-tca, but does to some of the rest of you) that all #ubuntu operators have operator access in #ubuntu+1.
[23:41] <LjL> i once again note (and this applyes to rww) that rww indirectly blames people for being lazy. why do you hate laziness?
[23:42] <rww> LjL: I don't hate laziness, I just enjoy guilt-tripping people O:D
[23:42] <LjL> :P
[23:43] <charlie-tca> :-)
[23:43] <rww> but kidding aside, I've noticed some people haven't figured that out yet, so... ;)
[23:44] <rww> presumably not everyone reads ubuntu-irc and scrutinizes IRCC meeting logs. I can't fathom why not, but there you go :D