[00:01] <slangasek> cjwatson: mea culpa; I'm finishing up the rebuild check of packages broken by the linux-libc-dev change, and found one that's still outstanding after the biarch fix - rootskel ftbfs because klcc isn't patched for the include path.  I'll prep a klibc upload today.
[00:06] <cjwatson> ah, I thought we'd done that one
[00:06] <cjwatson> no worries, as long as it's fixed for final
[00:08] <stgraber> skaet: can you publish the new amd64 alternate for mac as well ? the current one had 0 testers, so it won't hurt putting the new one on the tracker and the LTSP bug also affects the mac variant
[00:09] <stgraber> skaet: I won't be able to test it though
[00:11] <slangasek> cjwatson: I fixed the ftbfs in klibc itself... didn't remember klibc had its own cc
[00:11] <ScottK> Is the publisher on manual?
[00:12] <ScottK> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde4libs/4:4.5.5-0ubuntu2/+buildjob/2444873 didn't get published like I was expecting.
[00:14] <cjwatson> slangasek: ah, doh, right
[00:19] <ScottK> Actually I wonder if the web U/I has lost it's connection to soyuz?  Both of the current powerpc buils are shown in the web U/I as still unpacking packages after half an hour.
[00:19] <ScottK> That seems unlikely.
[00:22] <Ampelbein> ScottK: there are some networking issues with LP currentl
[00:23] <ScottK> Ampelbein: Thanks. I just saw on #ubuntu-devel.
[00:23] <skaet> stgraber,  will look into amd64+mac tonight after dinner.
[00:24] <stgraber> skaet: ok
[00:24]  * skaet -> dinner,  biab
[00:38] <stgraber> skaet: we seem to have a big problem with edubuntu 32bit
[00:38] <stgraber> skaet: running a dist-uprade in the live environment shows 963 pending updates
[00:39] <stgraber> skaet: so our 32bit live environment is completely out of date
[00:39] <stgraber> cjwatson: ^
[00:39] <cjwatson> what do the logs look like?
[00:39] <stgraber> looking at the livefs build logs now
[00:40] <stgraber> yeah, 32bit livefs failed to build ...
[00:41] <stgraber> doh, it's been building with ltsp 5.2.7, not 5.2.8
[00:43] <cjwatson> 5.2.8 was a recent upload - is that just a matter of kicking off an Edubuntu image rebuild?
[00:43]  * stgraber thinks
[00:44] <stgraber> 5.2.8 fixes an amd64 issue so it shouldn't break the build of edubuntu 32bit
[00:44] <cjwatson> amd64 seems to have already built successfully
[00:44] <stgraber> but it fails at exactly the same place as the 64bit issue I fixed earlier
[00:44] <cjwatson> does it need to be rebuilt for this?
[00:44] <stgraber> yeah, amd64 doesn't have ltsp
[00:45] <cjwatson> (http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/natty/edubuntu-dvd/latest/livecd-20110413.1-amd64.out)
[00:45] <stgraber> it just gets the most recent ltsp chroot generate at the end of the i386 build
[00:45] <cjwatson> ok, so we could (if you think it's needed) rebuild just i386
[00:45] <stgraber> we'd need to rebuild both if we want the ltsp chroot to be the same on both builds
[00:45] <stgraber> basically i386 builds the livefs, then the ltsp chroot
[00:46] <stgraber> amd64 builds the livefs and then includes the i386 chroot built a bit earlier
[00:46] <stgraber> so a rebuild of Edubuntu i386 and amd64 "should" fix the issue
[00:46] <cjwatson> skaet: were you going to build ubuntustudio?  I don't see any wait-for-package processes on antimony
[00:47] <cjwatson> oh, she's off to dinner
[00:47] <cjwatson> I'll do it then
[00:47] <stgraber> if we can start one now, it should finish soon enough that I can still test both before going to bed
[00:47] <cjwatson> stgraber: ok - Ubuntu Studio is first in line, but I'll do Edubuntu right afterwards
[00:47] <stgraber> ok, I'll be watching the livefs build logs to make sure we don't have it happening again ...
[00:48] <stgraber> shouldn't I receive an e-mail when a livefs fails to build or is that only for cd build failures ?
[00:48] <cjwatson> you should already.  I'm surprised you didn't
[00:48] <cjwatson> IIRC I saw it by mail and assumed you would also have seen it
[00:49] <stgraber> it's been a while I haven't received any e-mail for livefs/dvd build failures
[00:49] <cjwatson> ah, I think it's because it's set to the edubuntu-dvd project
[00:49] <cjwatson> and notify-addresses only knows about edubuntu
[00:50] <cjwatson> fixed, I think
[00:51] <stgraber> ok, let's hope we won't have a chance to test it with the next build :)
[00:51] <cjwatson> (should also fix kubuntu-dvd notifications)
[00:53] <stgraber> ok, I marked them as being rebuilt on the tracker
[01:18] <cjwatson> bunch of uninstallables in the new ubuntustudio images, so specifically *not* posting them yet
[01:18] <cjwatson> skaet: ^-
[01:18] <cjwatson> wonder what I broke
[01:23] <GrueMaster> Kubuntu Mobile armel+omap3 is a fail.  The image is supposed tohave two partitions - boot & rootfs.  It only has the rootfs.  I am grafting it on to a headless image, but I need to mark it as a fail.
[01:23] <cjwatson> oh, bah, ubuntustudio didn't build due to LP breakage
[01:30] <GrueMaster> Looks like Kubuntu Mobile armel+omap4 is a failure also.
[01:50] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/server/natty/20110413.1/ is available now (ec2 images) someone could populate the tracker maybe ?
[01:50] <smoser> skaet, ?
[01:50] <smoser> cjwatson,
[01:50] <cjwatson> sure
[01:54] <cjwatson> smoser: done
[01:55] <Daviey> skaet, ec2 testing is currently blocked, but should be started in ~6 hours from now.
[01:58]  * Daviey goes to bed. nn all. o/
[01:58] <highvoltage> night Daviey
[02:17] <cjwatson> Edubuntu DVD builds broke for the same reason as Ubuntu Studio - LP networking problems
[02:17] <cjwatson> but the livefs builds worked, and those are the long bits, so that doesn't need to be redone
[02:18] <stgraber> cjwatson: e-mails work properly btw :)
[02:18] <stgraber> cjwatson: ah, good to know i386 livefs succeeded, I'm still waiting for the remaining part of the log to appear on people.c.c
[02:20] <skaet> cjwatson, hmm.. just checked.  and yeah don't see them updated.
[02:20] <skaet> should I just restart the ubuntu studio off?
[02:21]  * skaet goes through the backscroll.... :P
[02:26] <cjwatson> no, no point
[02:26] <cjwatson> waiting to hear that LP networking's been fixed
[02:26] <cjwatson> http://identi.ca/launchpadstatus
[02:26] <cjwatson> hm, seems to indicate it should be better
[02:27] <skaet> hmm, try and see?
[02:27] <cjwatson> I'm checking other things first
[02:27] <skaet> ok,  will wait for your signal.
[02:32] <cjwatson> it does look a bit happier.  I'll retry
[02:33] <skaet> cjwatson,  cool.
[02:37] <cjwatson> not happy enough.
[02:37] <cjwatson> I'd suggest leaving it until the outage notice disappears from the #is topic
[02:41] <skaet> hmm... yeah just got the email.
[02:48] <cjwatson> can you take over builds then?
[02:51] <skaet> cjwatson,  yeah  I'll check back periodically through the evening til I go to bed.
[02:52] <skaet> #is has agreed to post here when the dead hardware switch has been replaced
[02:52] <skaet> images to be built are:  ubuntu-studio,  edubuntu,  and ??
[02:53] <cjwatson> that's all, AFAIK
[02:53] <cjwatson> for-project ubuntustudio cron.daily; for-project edubuntu cron.dvd
[02:53] <cjwatson> don't run buildlive
[02:54]  * skaet nods
[02:54] <skaet> will do, when I get the signal the builds are working again.
[02:54] <skaet> sleep well.   talk to you on the flip side.
[05:13] <stgraber> skaet: any news on the rebuilds ?
[05:14] <ScottK> stgraber: I think still waiting to hear the networking issues are resolved and things can be tried again.
[05:14] <skaet> stgraber,  checked an 30 minutes ago, and hardware switch being worked on,  no ETA yet.
[05:15] <skaet> stgraber,  charlieS agreed to post here when issue is resolved.
[05:16] <stgraber> skaet: what time are you planning to release beta2 ? (won't be staying online much longer and I'd really like to have a working beta2 for Edubuntu)
[05:17] <skaet> stgraber, understand.   Its looking like afternoon in US at this point, but there are some other web publishing issues that may play into it.
[05:18] <skaet> I suggest going to bed now,  and checking early if pitti/cjwatson was able to get a build made,  I'll be calling it a night soon myself.
[05:18] <stgraber> skaet: ok. My guess is that from the time Edubuntu appears on cdimage to the point where I have both of them tested, I need around 3-4 hours (40mins per install + rsync time)
[05:19]  * skaet nods.  good to know.   
[05:20] <stgraber> ok, I'll try to wakeup early tomorrow to start rsyncing the new images so I have them downloaded when I get to the office, then I should be able to have them tested before lunch time.
[05:21] <stgraber> good night everyone
[06:26] <skaet> cjwatson, pitti, all,   still no ETA on the broken switch being fixed.   Will leave it to you to kick off the edubuntu/ubuntu-studio builds as soon as its back to working.
[06:27]  * skaet --> zzz
[06:35] <GrueMaster> Well, that would explain why I can't file a bug.
[06:42] <cinerama> hi guys, the cdimage mirrors boxes are getting a bit tight on disk space -- can something be cleaned up there?
[07:45] <pitti> Good morning
[07:47] <pitti> meh, what's up with bzr?
[07:47] <pitti> cinerama: will have a look
[07:48] <cinerama> pitti: thanks!
[07:48] <pitti> the ubuntustudio images failed to build with some weird bzr errors, and my cron jobs failed the same way
[07:50] <pitti> ah, saw scrollback
[07:56] <pitti> bzr at least works locally, and identica says it should be back up, trying a studio build now
[08:04] <pitti> meh, not back enough
[08:25] <pitti> cinerama: I cleaned up a bit, but as always this will only be temporary
[08:25] <cinerama> pitti: understood.  thanks for having a look at it
[08:46] <mvo> pitti: just to confirm, today is the day where we won't move packages between main and universe anymore, right? just asking for the command-not-found data extraction (that contains the component)
[08:46] <pitti> mvo: ideally yes
[08:47] <pitti> mvo: but http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt still has some new issues
[08:47]  * mvo looks
[08:47] <pitti> lxc is from just a day or two before, and openjade1.3 popped up a while ago
[08:48] <mvo> ok, so I better wait a additional day or so, the list is really small
[08:49] <pitti> mvo: I did some cleanup now, and asked in #u-devel about lxc, so it should get smaller soon
[08:50] <mvo> thanks!
[09:28] <pitti> ??
[09:29] <pitti> seems this is fallout from the LP outage, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+queue?queue_state=1 is fine
[10:25] <pitti> skaet: I updated https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NattyNarwhal/TechnicalOverview and corrected/streamlined it a bit
[10:26] <pitti> YAY!
[10:26] <pitti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20110414.3/
[10:26] <pitti> it built, and http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntustudio/daily/20110414.3/report.html is empty
[10:26] <pitti> running for-project edubuntu cron.dvd now
[10:28] <pitti> who tests ubuntustudio usually?
[10:32] <jibel> pitti, I'll do
[10:32] <pitti> great
[10:33] <jibel> I'll start i386 in ~27 seconds
[10:44] <kamstrup> Can I get some feedback on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-translations/+bug/754424 as we need to get translators churning asap if we want it in
[10:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 754424 in unity-place-applications (Ubuntu) (and 5 other projects) "Dash: only returns first 5–6 "available to download" results; misleading because many more are in the Software Centre (affects: 2) (heat: 16)" [Undecided,In progress]
[10:45] <elmo> hi, LP should be recovered
[10:45] <elmo> skaet: cjwatson pitti ^--
[10:46] <elmo> and most of the other stuff that was affected by the network clusterfuck
[10:46] <pitti> thanks elmo
[10:46] <pitti> elmo: indeed, my most recent image builds succeeded \o/
[10:46] <pitti> right in time for today's beta :)
[10:49] <pitti> ScottL, stgraber: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/dvd/20110414.2/
[10:53] <jibel> pitti, default installation of ubuntustudio succeeded on i386 and amd64. I'm now trying with all softwares selected.
[10:53] <pitti> yay
[10:54] <pitti> I'll start pre-publishing now, so that this has time to mirror
[10:54] <pitti> (that doesn't affect studio/edubuntu etc.)
[10:58] <pitti> ScottL, stgraber: they both have ltsp 5.2.8, so are current
[11:15] <bdrung> can anyone look at the FFe request for audacity (bug #759314)?
[11:15] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 759314 in audacity (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Merge audacity 1.3.13-1 (universe) from Debian unstable (main) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/759314
[11:19] <bdrung> pitti: ^
[11:21] <pitti> https://launchpadlibrarian.net/69181174/upstream-changes has string changes, UI changes, lots of changes in general, so it's not the thing I can sign off lightheartedly
[11:21] <pitti> this woudl then at least need some thorough testing (also upgrades), etc.
[11:23] <bdrung> pitti: should i upload it to my ppa for easier testing?
[11:24] <pitti> bdrung: if you have some people who want to test it, that sounds good
[11:25] <pitti> cjwatson: do we need a cron job for building source CDs?
[11:25] <bdrung> pitti: i haven't someone (just me)
[11:26] <pitti> what amount of testing did you give it on current natty?
[11:44] <cjwatson> pitti: cron.source, it's just not in the crontab - kicked off by hand
[11:44] <cjwatson> (running)
[11:44] <pitti> ah, thanks
[11:46] <bdrung> pitti: launching, ffmpeg/lame import/export, project editing with labels, multiple export, playback, various effects
[11:49] <pitti> ah, GrueMaster is testing kubuntu-mobile armel? nice
[12:07] <pitti> I'm off for lunch and some errands, back in an hour; if something bad happens, please call my mobile
[12:44] <stgraber> pitti: thanks, downloading
[13:00] <ScottL> pitti, actually i'm ubuntu studio, not edubuntu ;)
[13:00] <ScottL> thanks for starting the testing jibel for ubuntu studio :)
[13:08] <jibel> ScottL, you're welcome. I've tested a default installation, and with all the software selected, and various partition schemes. it's ok. You should probably do deeper testing of studio itself.
[13:11] <ScottL> we shall, jibel, thanks again :)
[13:24] <pitti> ScottL: whoops, sorry :)
[13:26] <ScottL> pitti, np :)
[13:31]  * pitti rubs his hands -- http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/component-mismatches.txt and http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html done
[13:31] <pitti> opensp b-deps on openjade1.3 | openjade, the latter of which is in main, so all fine
[13:32] <jussi> Good afternoon wonderful release peoples
[13:32] <pitti> GrueMaster: how is kubuntu mobile armel going? should we publish this?
[13:32] <pitti> hey jussi
[13:33] <jussi> Im wanting to follow up on the possibility of bug 760456
[13:33] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760456 in ubuntu "Freeze exception for sync of a new package from debian (Openerp-web) (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760456
[13:35] <pitti> jussi: this seems low barrier indeed; however, this should at least get a test whether the current debian version builds on current natty
[13:35] <jussi> pitti: sure, how do we test that ?
[13:36] <pitti> jussi: download the source from Debian (pull-debian-source from ubuntu-dev-scripts), build it (will probably need some build deps which it will point out), install the .debs, and give them a quick test
[13:37] <jussi> pitti: right, Ill either do it myself or try find someone who can. thank you for the info. if that is successful, what do I need ot do then?
[13:37] <pitti> jussi: just confirm on the bug
[13:38] <jussi> ok :)
[13:38] <pitti> the rest will be done by RM/archive admins
[13:39] <jussi> excellent, thanks you.
[13:40] <jussi> pitti: should we be taking it from unstable or testing?
[13:40] <jussi> (its pretty much the same afaik)
[13:41] <pitti> jussi: unstable is fine
[13:41] <pitti> unless there is a specific reason to take the testing one, if sid's got broken recently, or requires dependencies that aren't in natty, etc.
[14:09] <jussi> pitti: shadeslayer has been a superstar and built the package now, it built fine, log is on the bug. (thanks shadeslayer)
[14:09] <shadeslayer> it was nothing ... *blush*
[14:11] <pitti> great!
[14:36] <jussi> pitti: Ive just tested the package and it works fine :)
[14:37] <jussi> double checks ftw :)
[15:05] <GrueMaster> pitti: kubuntu-mobile armel is not ready for publishing in my opinion.  It is not bootable as it sits.  I did manage to get it booting, but I had to graft it onto an SD card with kubuntu-desktop already flashed, then make several hacks on top of that.
[15:05] <ScottK> "Tech preview"
[15:05] <pitti> ok, so I'll leave it out from beta-2
[15:05] <GrueMaster> I don't know really how to mark it as fail, as it is mainly an image build issue.
[15:05] <pitti> and we just keep them as dailies?
[15:06] <GrueMaster> Sounds reasonable.
[15:12] <pitti> cjwatson: what's the trick to produce netboot/natty/beta-2 ?
[15:13] <cjwatson> manual - I can do it
[15:13] <pitti> thanks
[15:13] <cjwatson> on cocoplum, it's just manual copying *while* the publisher isn't running
[15:13] <cjwatson> er, wrong emphasis there but you get the idea
[15:13] <pitti> right
[15:13] <cjwatson> on antimony, it's manual page editing
[15:14] <cjwatson> I never bothered scripting it because so much of it was irregular and it wasn't very hard anyway
[15:15] <cjwatson> what's the timing like?  I'd like to go out nowish to sort out a problem with my car
[15:15] <cjwatson> (plus it's lunchtime in whatever odd personal timezone I've ended up in)
[15:15] <pitti> cjwatson: I have all images prepared on antimony, currently archiving the beta-1 images to old-images/
[15:15] <pitti> I'd like to do the sync soon, since it takes ages wit so many dvds
[15:16] <pitti> cjwatson: but we can do the netboot thing afterwards, and sync again
[15:16] <pitti> so no hurry
[15:16]  * pitti puts it on the list
[15:16] <stgraber> the edubuntu-live upload above is quite critical for Edubuntu so we'd appreciate it if it can go through as soon as beta2 is released so we can get it on the first daily build for testing
[15:16] <pitti> stgraber: I'm happy to review/accept it now
[15:16] <stgraber> pitti: would be great, thanks
[15:17] <cjwatson> well, I could cheat on cocoplum
[15:17] <pitti> cjwatson: it's not critical path, so please have lunch first
[15:17] <cjwatson> as long as there's adequate time, I can edit stuff in the temporary dists tree
[15:19] <skaet> good morning all
[15:19] <pitti> hey skaet
[15:19] <skaet> heya pitti,  glad to wake up and see life is sane again ;)
[15:19] <cjwatson> oh, in fact the publisher's nearly done anyway ...
[15:19] <skaet> s/life/network/
[15:19] <skaet> :)
[15:20] <pitti> skaet: heh, yeah; took some more attempts this morning, but it's all good; ubuntustudio and edubuntu images are up and look good in testing
[15:20] <skaet> thanks pitti,  :)
[15:20]  * skaet will go off and have a good look at qa tester, and see if there are any new gems waiting...
[15:21] <pitti> skaet: I had a good editing session on TechOverview as well
[15:22] <skaet> pitti:  excellent!
[15:23] <pitti> cjwatson: .manifest now only has natty beta-2 (and of course lucid/maverick/etc.), that's right?
[15:24] <cjwatson> yep
[15:24] <cjwatson> in fact, you'll want to move that to .manifest.full and trim out everything but natty from .manifest, for quicker mirror probing
[15:24] <pitti> ack
[15:25] <pitti> so that won't cause the mirrors to drop maverick etc.?
[15:25] <cjwatson> as in BetaProcess
[15:25] <cjwatson> no
[15:25] <stgraber> skaet: rsync is really slow today, still waiting for edubuntu i386 to download here ...
[15:25] <cjwatson> it just changes what the prober reports
[15:26] <pitti> done (also HEADER etc. mangling)
[15:26] <pitti> skaet: when do you plan to release?
[15:26] <skaet> stgraber,  ok.
[15:26] <pitti> skaet: I need an hour or two leeway to get the images published to cdimage.u.c.
[15:26] <pitti> skaet: can I start doing that?
[15:27] <skaet> pitti,  need to get together with the web team and see what the world looks like from their perspective.
[15:28] <cjwatson> beta-2 netboot stuff in place now
[15:28] <pitti> skaet: ok; I have everything staged up, now just need to push the sync button
[15:28] <pitti> cjwatson: thanks, crossing from list then
[15:28] <cjwatson> (links on archive.u.c should be valid shortly)
[15:28] <skaet> before publishing to cdimage,  want to talk to the jibel and the other leads, and makes sure the images are good.
[15:28] <skaet> will get back to you in half an hour.
[15:29] <pitti> skaet: ack, thanks
[15:30] <cjwatson> out for a bit, then
[15:30] <ogra_> cant we drop the second -headless- from the name ?
[15:30] <ogra_> it looks so ugly
[15:33] <ogra_> or the first one ... no matter which, but twice seems odd
[15:33] <ogra_> (since they are published manually anyway)
[16:15] <ScottK> pitti: One of the fixes in kdebase-workspace for maverick-proposed missed a spot.  Fix is in the queue.  Also it turns out we need to rebuild on of the third party widgets.   That's also inqueue.  I'd appreciate it if you would accept them.
[16:16] <skaet> pitti,  was talking with jibel, and I think there are too many problems with the powerpc images at this point, and not enough testing on them, so please pull them from release.
[16:17] <skaet> I'm waiting to get the results in for the server images, and make sure the amd64+mac ones are sane.
[16:18] <skaet> Looks like the flavor images are good,  but want to give edubuntu/ubuntu-studio a bit more time to shake them a bit.
[16:19] <skaet> stgraber, ScottL,  ^^
[16:20] <skaet> scott-work, ^^
[16:21] <pitti> skaet: all the powerpc images? or just the u or k ones?
[16:21] <scott-work> skaet: yes, i just mentioned about twenty minutes ago on #ubuntustudio-devel that i would like to test these images till even though jibel has as well
[16:21] <scott-work> s/till/still
[16:22] <stgraber> skaet: I should have all of Edubuntu tested within the next 15-20 minutes (last image is currently installing)
[16:24] <pitti> skaet: ah, no powerpc images for beta-2 right now anyway (we don't routinely publish them anyway it seems)
[16:25] <pitti> skaet: amd64+mac isn't currently part of the release either
[16:25] <pitti> skaet: if we want to release them, we can, but I'd really like to start syncing out the others, as the DVDs take ages
[16:25] <ScottK> I thought we published them when tested and working.
[16:25] <ScottK> That just doesn't happen very often.
[16:25] <skaet> :/
[16:37] <stgraber> skaet: Edubuntu is fine, both images fully tested now
[16:37] <skaet> stgraber,  sweet.  :)
[16:57] <c10ud> hello, i have a question: there's python-papyon (it should be in main, used by empathy and emesene (universe)) that currently had important fixes. is there a deadline to propose a ffe? current version is 0.5.4, next version is still unreleased, we're testing hard the changes along with the admins. next will be 0.5.5, less than 10 very tiny diffs from 0.5.4 and they're all bugfix. i'm not really into the ubuntu/debian process but does that mean th
[16:57] <c10ud> e package cannot be updated anymore?
[17:00] <ScottK> If it's just bug fixes and the diffs are small enough to be reviewable it might still get in.
[17:00] <skaet> c10ud,  if its purely for bug fixes (as your post indicates),  go ahead and propose the ffe,  we'll look at scope of impact and make a decision.
[17:01] <skaet> :)
[17:03] <c10ud> great, now my only problem is to a) make the mantainer release the updated package b) get a debian developer to package it because the current mantainer is facing a longstanding illness
[17:03] <c10ud> supposing i want to wait till the last available day, which day would it be for main? and for universe?
[17:15] <charlie-tca> skaet: workaround for Xubuntu pulling in all of gnome is install xfce4-indicator-plugin before upgrading
[17:16] <charlie-tca> I just ran a Xubuntu 10.10 to natty upgrade and did not pull gnome in
[17:16] <pitti> skaet: sorry, got disconnected for a bit, I might have lost some messages
[17:17] <pitti> skaet: last I got from you is 17:37:48       skaet | stgraber,  sweet.  :)
[17:22] <seb128> pitti, nothing addressed to you since that
[17:22] <skaet> pitti,  that's the last I've posted.
[17:22] <charlie-tca> skaet: release notes checked
[17:22] <skaet> thanks charlie-tca :)
[17:22] <ScottK> pitti: Did you get my message about updated sru candidates for Maverick?
[17:23] <pitti> seb128, skaet: thanks
[17:23] <pitti> ScottK: yep, got it; will do now
[17:23] <ScottK> pitti: Thanks.
[17:34] <ScottK> skaet: Are you OK if we go ahead and start to review/accept stuff from the queue (i.e. confident no more respins are needed)?
[17:38] <skaet> ScottK,  yup.   Images we have now,  are the ones we're going with.
[17:38] <skaet> lets start to get the queues going again.
[17:38] <ScottK> Thanks.
[17:39] <Riddell> I'm going out for a few hours, ScottK if the release happens you might want to find someone to put it onto kubuntu.org
[17:39] <ScottK> OK.
[17:39] <ScottK> No ryankca either.
[17:40] <ScottK> Oh, not here.
[17:48] <pitti> oh? ^
[17:49] <pitti> well, I guess the images are pretty much done now, so we can probably flush, but we haven't gotten the official go yet
[17:49] <cjwatson> 17:38 <skaet> ScottK,  yup.   Images we have now,  are the ones we're going with.
[17:49] <cjwatson> 17:38 <skaet> lets start to get the queues going again.
[17:49] <cjwatson> doesn't count?
[17:49]  * ScottK thought it did.
[17:49] <pitti> ah
[17:49] <pitti> cjwatson: that was exactly in the window of my DSL reconnect, sorry
[17:50] <pitti> uh, that was before, seems I reconnected again, wth
[17:50] <pitti> thanks
[17:50] <pitti> skaet: starting the cdimage mirroring then
[17:50] <pitti> skaet: do we want to publish amd64+mac?
[17:51] <pitti> (it's not currently, but I can add them)
[17:51] <skaet> pitti,  still waiting for the input on it.
[17:51] <skaet> pitti,  still waiting for input on uec as well.
[17:51] <skaet> pitti,  can you cross check against my email?
[17:52] <pitti> skaet: that looked fine to me
[17:52] <skaet> ok,  lets get the publishing for all except amd64+mac, and uec started.    As info comes in, we'll decide
[17:54] <pitti> ack
[18:01]  * cjwatson fixes bug 760089, for the non-Ubuntu folks
[18:01] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760089 in debian-installer (Ubuntu Natty) (and 2 other projects) "background color of d-i is purple on the kubuntu alternate images (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760089
[18:05]  * charlie-tca thanks cjwatson for that fix
[18:08] <GrueMaster> cjwatson: Will this also fix the ubuntu-headless image?  Bug 747229.
[18:08] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 747229 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "weird color change during oem-config debconf package removal step in serial installs (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/747229
[18:09] <cjwatson> GrueMaster: doesn't seem obviously related, no
[18:10] <GrueMaster> Thought it might, as we still use d-i through oem-config-debconf.
[18:11] <cjwatson> right, but it's not what I fixed.
[18:11] <cjwatson> besides, you're an Ubuntu flavour, so no change ...
[18:12] <GrueMaster> Well, what we have now is fugly and hard on the eyes.  https://launchpadlibrarian.net/67888128/package-removal.png
[18:12] <GrueMaster> But I guess ogra will find a fix.
[18:13] <skaet> pitti,  +1 on the uec,  testing's been done per Daviey,  we just need to get the iso tracker in synch with what actually happened.
[18:13] <pitti> cool
[18:13] <cjwatson> GrueMaster: no dispute that it's ugly, but I doubt I can fix it
[18:13] <cjwatson> (time-wise)
[18:14] <pitti> skaet: so smoser should publish them?
[18:14] <cjwatson> somebody on the ARM team needs to address that
[18:14] <smoser> make things public, right?
[18:14] <skaet> smoser,  can you confirm you're publishing them and ec2.
[18:14] <skaet> yup
[18:15] <smoser> k
[18:15] <smoser> process started.
[18:15] <skaet> :)
[18:16]  * skaet now heads off to lurk on u-testing and see if chad's got some data on amd64+mac.
[18:20] <stgraber> cjwatson, pitti: Will Edubuntu get a daily build tonight ? (I want to have bug 760673 tested ASAP)
[18:20] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 760673 in edubuntu-live (Ubuntu Natty) (and 1 other project) "Edubuntu's casper-bottom script uses wrong path and gets run at image build time (affects: 1) (heat: 8)" [Critical,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/760673
[18:38] <pitti> stgraber: can do
[18:39] <stgraber> pitti: would be appreciated, thanks
[18:39] <pitti> cron jobs back on
[18:45] <pitti> slangasek: do you want to review u-boot-linaro?
[18:45] <slangasek> pitti: I uploaded it, so probably not :)
[18:45] <pitti> ah, ok
[18:57] <smoser> http://uec-images.ubuntu.com/releases/11.04/beta-2/ is alive now.
[19:00] <pitti> skaet: did you already ask IS for the mirror prober, or want me to?
[19:00] <skaet> pitti,  please ask.  I haven't yet
[19:00]  * skaet still scrubbing announce material to prep for web team
[19:01] <pitti> ack
[19:11] <skaet> stgraber:  what's the path you want used for edubeta this time around?  http://edubuntu.org/2011-04-14/edubuntu-1104-beta-2-released
[19:12]  * skaet just finished cleaning up the kubuntu one...
[19:12] <skaet> s/edubeta/ edubuntu beta/ ... sigh.
[19:13] <skaet> or should I just leave it as a generic reference to the edubuntu site?
[19:15] <stgraber> skaet: we'll have a blog entry at http://www.edubuntu.org/2011-04-14/edubuntu-1104-beta-2-released (just created a blank one now) but it's going to contain almost the same thing as the announcement. So you can just link to http://www.edubuntu.org
[19:15] <skaet> cool.  done.
[19:16] <stgraber> thanks
[19:30] <skaet> pitti,  http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/  doesn't seem to have i386 image for alternate install CD
[19:30] <skaet> can you check it out?
[19:31] <pitti> skaet: will do (on the phone right now)
[19:32] <skaet> thanks!
[19:35] <pitti> ah, I know; i386 and amd64 have two different version numbers
[19:35] <pitti> at least the tracker says so
[19:35]  * skaet nods
[19:36] <skaet> we had to spin amd64 to pick up the ltsp change
[19:42] <pitti> missing i386 alternate added, syncing out now
[19:45] <pitti> skaet: ah, fortunately the actual .iso got synced already, it was just the .html stuff missing
[19:45] <pitti> so that's quick
[19:45] <skaet> :)
[19:46] <skaet> good oh.
[19:52] <pitti> hm, or maybe not; it was missing from the manifest
[19:52] <pitti> skaet: so, let's give them another hour or so to catch up, and then ask #is to run the mirror prober again?
[19:52] <skaet> sounds good.
[20:12] <skaet> pitti,  please add ubuntu alternate/desktop amd64+mac,  and kubuntu alternate/desktop amd64+mac.   Testers are comforatable they'll be usable.
[20:27] <ScottK> ^^^ opendkim is my upload, so I'd appreciate someone else accepting it.
[20:29] <slangasek> ScottK: I'll trade you opendkim for klibc :)
[20:30] <ScottK> Not fair.
[20:30] <ScottK> I'll look, but no promised I'm comfortable having an opinion on it.
[20:30] <ScottK> promised/promises
[20:30] <slangasek> it's a small patch, fixes the rootskell ftbfs... if you don't mind reviewing perl
[20:31] <ScottK> I do, but I'll look anyway.
[20:32] <ScottK> Feel free to say "Universe isn't frozen yet, accept" on mine.
[20:33] <ScottK> klibc was fine.
[20:34] <slangasek> ah, it even said it was universe, didn't it? Ok, accepting
[20:34] <ScottK> And I said it was bugfix only right in debian/changelog .....
[20:34] <ScottK> So what can go wrong?
[20:34] <slangasek> ;)
[20:35] <highvoltage> have /win 2
[20:41] <Riddell> evening, what did I miss?
[20:42] <ScottK> Archive is open again for accepting stuff after review.
[20:42] <ScottK> No release announcement yet.
[20:43] <micahg> it's funny, the release was announced on identi.ca 6 hours ago :)
[20:43] <skaet> cjwatson,  can you check if the ubuntu alternate/desktop amd64+mac,  and kubuntu alternate/desktop amd64+mac have been added.    Haven't heard back yet from pitti.
[20:43] <pitti> skaet: just back from dinner
[20:43] <charlie-tca> micahg: anyone can announce it there, but that doesn't make it real
[20:43] <pitti> I'm currently looking at it, but it seems to require some more effort
[20:44] <pitti> ah, it's the iso tracker version numbers being wrong again
[20:45] <skaet> pitti,  thanks.
[20:46] <pitti> skaet: but I just publish them to cdimage, not to releases
[20:46]  * cjwatson will leave it to pitti, since he's here
[20:47] <pitti> syncing out
[20:48] <pitti> skaet: I'll update TechOverview accordingly
[20:49] <skaet> pitti,  thanks.
[20:49] <pitti> done
[20:49] <pitti> skaet: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/natty/beta-2/
[20:51] <pitti> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/natty/beta-2/ done as well
[20:51] <pitti> skaet: ^
[20:51] <pitti> skaet: I already checked all links in TechOverview ealier, so aside from the mirror prober they are all go
[20:56] <skaet> piiti,  thanks!   :)
[21:14] <pitti> skaet: do you need anythign else from me?
[21:14] <skaet> pitti,  I think we're good,  I'll just finish going through the checklist as soon as the announce is sent out.
[21:14] <pitti> skaet: cool; good luck with the finishing touches!
[21:40] <lamont> skaet: I'm guessing the release announcement means you'd like the faster build times that fresh chroots will give you, yes?
[21:40] <skaet> :)
[21:40] <skaet> indeed.
[21:40] <skaet> cjwatson, can you approve ubuntu-devel-announce?
[21:44] <jbicha> looking for a sponsor for bug 426215
[21:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 426215 in software-center (Ubuntu) (and 1 other project) "[UIF exception] apt:package-name isn't handled by the Store when appropriate (affects: 5) (heat: 30)" [Wishlist,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/426215
[22:04] <ScottK> python3-defaults is mine as well, so I'd appreciate a review.  The patch is reviewed by POX (dh_python3 developer) and committed to the Debian VCS.
[23:46]  * skaet --> dinner and errands.    Back on later.