| * iheartubuntu enters ggzgamingzone chess server via glChess | 00:24 | |
| iheartubuntu | if there are any soccer fans here... LA Galaxy and David Beckham are playing now... http://www.justin.tv/dysreflex#/w/1079624032 | 02:44 |
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| kevin5574 | i'm typing this from natty beta2 | 02:45 |
| iheartubuntu | my laptop is 10.10 | 02:46 |
| iheartubuntu | i cant handle unity | 02:46 |
| iheartubuntu | i went to ubuntu classic in natty | 02:46 |
| kevin5574 | what's wrong with unity? | 02:47 |
| iheartubuntu | kevin see if your flash works... http://www.justin.tv/dysreflex#/w/1079624032 | 02:47 |
| iheartubuntu | la galaxy game | 02:47 |
| kevin5574 | i just have to learn how to invert colors | 02:47 |
| kevin5574 | iheartubuntu: i'm using 64bit | 02:48 |
| kevin5574 | and trying to install now | 02:48 |
| iheartubuntu | u have no flash? | 02:48 |
| kevin5574 | hopefully there's enough room on liveusb, otherwise i may have to install to hdd | 02:48 |
| kevin5574 | iheartubuntu: nope, i'll have to get another usbstick before i try to get that working | 02:51 |
| iheartubuntu | dang | 02:51 |
| kevin5574 | oddly, there really isn't much flash content that i think would make natty a deal breaker | 02:51 |
| nhaines | kevin5574: hate to break it to you, but beta 2 doesn't exist yet. | 02:57 |
| iheartubuntu | he can dream right? | 02:58 |
| iheartubuntu | :) | 02:58 |
| kevin5574 | nhaines: i guess not officially | 03:01 |
| kevin5574 | supposedly it'll be out tomorrow | 03:01 |
| nhaines | The full CD set (desktop/install/server/alt install/netbook images) for all supported versions of Ubuntu, with latest point releases only of LTS releases comes to 59.5GB. | 03:10 |
| iheartubuntu | why so big? | 03:13 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh ok all supported versions | 03:13 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: from 4.10 to 10.10. | 03:14 |
| nhaines | and tomorrow I'll grab all the beta 2 images for 11.04. | 03:14 |
| kevin5574 | hears where i got the beta2 iso: http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/5460 | 03:15 |
| nhaines | There are no beta 2 images at that site. | 03:16 |
| kevin5574 | why do you say this? | 03:17 |
| nhaines | we're probably looking at about 18 hours until Ubuntu 11.04 beta 2, and it'll be available at http://www.ubuntu.com/testing | 03:17 |
| nhaines | kevin5574: because the release manager hasn't announced a beta 2 release, and it doesn't exist until then. | 03:17 |
| kevin5574 | nhaines: it says "we are currently tsting candidates for Natty Beta 2" | 03:18 |
| kevin5574 | furthermore, this iso boot, the one @ releases.ubuntu.com did not | 03:18 |
| nhaines | kevin5574: "candidates" == "not beta 2", plus http://releases.ubuntu.com/natty/ has beta 1 images and does not have anything to do with the qa site. | 03:19 |
| kevin5574 | nhaines: it's a beta 2 candidate | 03:19 |
| * kevin5574 shrugs | 03:19 | |
| nhaines | kevin5574: it's not beta 2. | 03:19 |
| iheartubuntu | its not beta 2, its beta fish | 03:20 |
| kevin5574 | nhaines: i hear ya' | 03:20 |
| kevin5574 | the iso @ releases.ubuntu.com wouldn't boot from liveusb on my system | 03:20 |
| kevin5574 | not sure what changed | 03:20 |
| kevin5574 | i was thinking i wouldn't be able to install natty | 03:20 |
| akk | Does the livecd back down to unity2d on systems that don't support 3d? That could be the problem. | 03:25 |
| akk | I know I've had trouble with earlier ubuntu livecds not booting because they assumed 3D/DRI and wouldn't work without it. | 03:25 |
| nhaines | akk:no, it doesn't, but it should fallback to Ubuntu Classic. | 03:25 |
| nhaines | oneiric will fallback to Unity2D. | 03:25 |
| akk | But it does try to detect if X didn't start or had a problem, and fall back automatically? | 03:26 |
| nhaines | Installing Ubuntu 11.04 and then installing Unity2D will cause "Ubuntu" to fallback to Unity2D, and "Ubuntu Classic" is still available. | 03:26 |
| akk | (historically ubuntu hasn't checked, it just assumed) | 03:26 |
| nhaines | akk: no, Unity is a Compiz plugin and X will run with or without 2D. If X can't run it falls back to a recovery prompt. | 03:27 |
| kevin5574 | when does unity start in the boot process? before gdm? | 03:27 |
| nhaines | Unity is a GNOME Session, so it starts after you log in after gdm. | 03:27 |
| akk | I always got failure modes of total system hang -- X would try to start and hang the system. | 03:27 |
| kevin5574 | yeah, it wasn't a unity problem then | 03:27 |
| nhaines | You can run '/usr/lib/nux/unity_support_test -p' to see whether Unity is supported or not. | 03:28 |
| kevin5574 | akk: what video card? | 03:38 |
| akk | kevin5574: Most of the hard hangs I got were on an old laptop, S3 Savage video card. | 03:39 |
| kevin5574 | akk: that is interesting, so you're problem sounds specific to the video card | 03:40 |
| akk | No 3d, and trying to enable it freezes the kernel, but Ubuntu didn't have any no-DRI option. | 03:40 |
| kevin5574 | mine is probably with the quirky bios on this system | 03:40 |
| kevin5574 | my notebook has 3d, but it is *very* far from spectacular | 03:40 |
| kevin5574 | not that i'm ungrateful for it :/ | 03:44 |
| akk | Yeah, my current one supposedly has it and I know the card can do it, but 3d apps mostly seem to be doing software GL, super jerky and slow. | 03:44 |
| kevin5574 | basically, compiz stuff works fine | 03:47 |
| kevin5574 | but like, 3d games run jerky | 03:48 |
| kevin5574 | and i mean old real time strategy games, like total annihilation | 03:48 |
| kevin5574 | what kind of video card do you have on your current one? | 03:48 |
| kevin5574 | so, there is some hardware acceleration, just not as much as with the big 2 | 03:49 |
| kevin5574 | when i bought this notebook, i didn't buy it for games though | 03:50 |
| kevin5574 | speaking of which, i should probably reboot, bbl | 03:50 |
| Algo | 'sup dudes? | 03:53 |
| Algo | and gals | 03:53 |
| === KB1JWQ is now known as Corey | ||
| MarkDude | http://wiki.creativecommons.org/San_Francisco_Salon 15th at HP | 07:03 |
| iheartubuntu | filing natty bug reports is good for karma health :) | 16:42 |
| * sn9 initially read that as "nasty bug reports" | 16:44 | |
| nhaines | http://releases.ubuntu.com/11.04/ lists beta 2 but the release hasn't been announced yet. | 17:40 |
| iheartubuntu | i think OMG announced it | 17:40 |
| nhaines | It's coming very soon but it's best to wait until the announcement, to allow the mirrors to sync up and reduce the load from the Ubuntu servers. | 17:40 |
| iheartubuntu | 30+ Ubuntu Hour flyers went up yesterday... http://yfrog.com/h0obbewj | 17:41 |
| nhaines | OMG announced it before it has been released, once again. All of their links are broken. | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | Ive had 4 people already email me confirming the location! :) | 17:41 |
| iheartubuntu | OMG announced the Humble Bundle before that was announced too (ggggrrrr) | 17:42 |
| iheartubuntu | it was a chore finding boards to staple these flyers around caltech. very pristine university there | 17:43 |
| iheartubuntu | some of them said NO STAPLES and had tacks available which i used | 17:43 |
| akk | It's funny how sites announce things that haven't actually been released. I guess it's a good way to get page hits ... | 17:43 |
| iheartubuntu | some of the areas had glass with tape being used, so i stapled the flyer on the bottom of another flyer :) | 17:43 |
| akk | Yeah, I guess you have to carry stapler, pins, tacks and tape if you want to cover all the bases. | 17:44 |
| akk | Complicated. | 17:44 |
| iheartubuntu | cal tech had a student protest yesterday. the school wants to place "trained psychologists" into EVERY dorm so they can monitor students | 17:45 |
| iheartubuntu | students are PO | 17:45 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: how does that make them feel? | 17:48 |
| akk | lol | 17:49 |
| nhaines | akk: tell me more about lol | 17:50 |
| nhaines | Hmm, that's strange, why would there not be a 32-bit alternate install image for beta 2? Hopefully they're still staging. | 17:50 |
| akk | nhaines: Why do you want to know more about lol? | 17:50 |
| nhaines | akk: haha | 17:50 |
| iheartubuntu | ask Dr. Sbaitso | 17:53 |
| jtatum | akk: Does it please you to believe I want to know more about lol? | 17:53 |
| akk | jtatum: Does lol remind you of your father? | 17:53 |
| iheartubuntu | keep it up everyone and i will start blasting some Adam & the Ants and head to my room | 17:54 |
| jtatum | akk: What else comes to mind when you think of your father? | 17:55 |
| sn9 | does your father make you rofl? | 17:57 |
| sn9 | how do you feel about your father making you rofl? | 17:57 |
| sn9 | ever rofl without your father? | 17:58 |
| sn9 | how do you feel about others who rofl? | 17:59 |
| sn9 | do you ever ponder life without rofl? | 18:00 |
| sn9 | do you ever have rofl for breakfast? | 18:01 |
| iheartubuntu | yes | 18:02 |
| * akk wants a cinnamon rofl now | 18:04 | |
| sn9 | lmao zedong | 18:09 |
| iheartubuntu | hello? dr. sbaitso? | 21:38 |
| iheartubuntu | very nice thank you erichammond | 22:13 |
| * erichammond nods | 22:14 | |
| iheartubuntu | i never knew that it existed | 22:16 |
| iheartubuntu | hi jbermudes - hope to see you tonight? | 22:18 |
| erichammond | iheartubuntu: I list http://LAtechCalendar.com and other LA resources on http://LAgeeks.org | 22:21 |
| iheartubuntu | nice simple site | 22:24 |
| erichammond | iheartubuntu: I like making one page sites. http://Perl.LA | 22:28 |
| jbermudes | iheartubuntu: yup! :) | 23:03 |
| kdub | nyan cat | 23:06 |
| iheartubuntu | great! | 23:07 |
| iheartubuntu | so exciting! | 23:07 |
| kevin6888 | ay everybody | 23:08 |
| iheartubuntu | aye matey | 23:08 |
| kevin6888 | i matey | 23:09 |
| iheartubuntu | ravi shankar is going to be at caltech i think i saw... this friday? | 23:09 |
| iheartubuntu | kevin6888 http://us.artofliving.org/losangeles | 23:11 |
| iheartubuntu | actually not at caltech... somewhere in LA | 23:12 |
| kevin6888 | who's that iheartubuntu ? | 23:12 |
| iheartubuntu | he is the sitar player that taught george harrison | 23:12 |
| iheartubuntu | or introduced them to sitar anyways | 23:13 |
| iheartubuntu | the beatles | 23:13 |
| kdub | wasnt that a band or something? | 23:14 |
| kdub | tehehe | 23:15 |
| kevin6888 | ah, sitar, he's the dude on the link | 23:16 |
| kevin6888 | i see | 23:16 |
| iheartubuntu | aye | 23:18 |
| kevin6888 | ay, check out this stuff from tokyohackerspace.org: http://blog.rdtn.org/2011/04/14/a-little-of-what-weve-been-up-to/ | 23:19 |
| kevin6888 | it's a "radiation detection hardware network" device | 23:19 |
| iheartubuntu | wait... :) its not the same guy | 23:21 |
| iheartubuntu | :p | 23:21 |
| iheartubuntu | the ravi shankar from the beatles era would be like 75-80 yrs old | 23:22 |
| kevin6888 | never heard of either one | 23:23 |
| kevin6888 | what do they teach? happiness? | 23:23 |
| iheartubuntu | someday, 60 years from now there will be some linux user in a webchat talking about a guy named mark shuttleworth... a different one. :| | 23:23 |
| kevin6888 | mark shuttleworth jr. | 23:23 |
| iheartubuntu | "My vision is of a world that is crime-free, stress-free and violence-free." - Sri Sri Ravi Shankar | 23:24 |
| iheartubuntu | they even have grad programs | 23:24 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe you can hook up with them on doing a yoga/hacker thing | 23:24 |
| kevin6888 | visions are easy | 23:24 |
| kevin6888 | i have a vision of superman like flight | 23:25 |
| kevin6888 | batman like resourcefulness | 23:25 |
| kevin6888 | and aquaman like irrelevance | 23:25 |
| kevin6888 | :P | 23:25 |
| kevin6888 | i'm not sure how i would set that up? do you know them? | 23:26 |
| iheartubuntu | "I have a vision of superman like flight, batman like resourcefulness and aquaman like irrelevance." - Sri Sri Seidos | 23:26 |
| iheartubuntu | that quote is good. it should be on your facebook | 23:26 |
| kevin6888 | i'll tweet it | 23:27 |
| kevin6888 | my tweets go to facebook | 23:27 |
| kevin6888 | i hope aquaman fans don't get ticked | 23:27 |
| kevin6888 | oh wait, there are no aquaman fans :( | 23:27 |
| iheartubuntu | i prefer plasticman | 23:28 |
| kevin6888 | i'm actually more of a marvel fan myself | 23:29 |
| kevin6888 | but a marvel super hero that flies that is memorable escapes me | 23:29 |
| iheartubuntu | spidey? | 23:30 |
| iheartubuntu | kinda flies | 23:30 |
| iheartubuntu | you mean without help | 23:30 |
| kevin6888 | ah, actually there was "cosmic spiderman" briefly | 23:30 |
| kevin6888 | yeah | 23:30 |
| kevin6888 | there's archangel | 23:30 |
| kevin6888 | but his wings are kinda' obnoxious | 23:30 |
| kevin6888 | jean grey flies | 23:30 |
| iheartubuntu | are you a TMNT fan of the original comic? | 23:30 |
| kevin6888 | pretty cool | 23:30 |
| kevin6888 | i never collected the og comic, but i did watch the cartoon | 23:31 |
| iheartubuntu | i have several keepers. like superman dies in the black plastic amongst others | 23:31 |
| kevin6888 | superman makes a cameo on TMNT? | 23:31 |
| kevin6888 | ohhhhh, the Doomsday thing | 23:31 |
| kevin6888 | yeah, that is cool | 23:31 |
| kevin6888 | i gave my comics to my nephews | 23:31 |
| iheartubuntu | Eastman & Laird i think was the name of the writers that put out the original TMNT... i have only one 1st printing... worth some bucks, but ive got a bunch 2nd printings not worth much | 23:32 |
| kevin6888 | when i was a kid i thought comics were a way to make money | 23:33 |
| kevin6888 | now, not so much | 23:33 |
| kevin6888 | i downloaded some comics off of torrents | 23:33 |
| kevin6888 | kind of cool | 23:33 |
| kevin6888 | but they aren't formatted very well | 23:33 |
| kevin6888 | to fit the screen | 23:33 |
| kevin6888 | i was thinking of making some stencils, i wonder if it's possible to spray paint on cloth and how well that would stick | 23:35 |
| kdub | sounds like a $7 experiment to me :D | 23:38 |
| kevin6888 | i estimated it at about 3x that | 23:38 |
| kevin6888 | but i really value my threads | 23:38 |
| iheartubuntu | kev - it works great | 23:40 |
| iheartubuntu | i did it back in the day | 23:40 |
| iheartubuntu | the stencil really needs to be tacky on tacked to the cloth material though, otherwise you'll have bleed through/overspray | 23:41 |
| jamalta | hey | 23:42 |
| jamalta | so we're going to have some visitors from the FL team in town for Google I/O.. (my old team) | 23:42 |
| jamalta | I'm going to be trying to get together with them somewhere in town, anyone else interested for the 10th or 11th? | 23:43 |
| jamalta | to meet some of the FL peeps, that is. | 23:43 |
| crashsystems | jamalta: is that on the weekend? | 23:43 |
| jamalta | jtatum: hey, you should come up if you can! | 23:43 |
| jamalta | crashsystems: no, unfortunately :( | 23:43 |
| jamalta | not sure how long they'll be in town | 23:43 |
| crashsystems | bah, I won't be able to make it then | 23:43 |
| jamalta | but if you want to do a weekend thing to meetup that would be awesome too | 23:43 |
| jamalta | i'll come to that at least | 23:43 |
| jtatum | what, huh, what? :) | 23:43 |
| jamalta | maybe we can get jtatum to come too | 23:43 |
| jamalta | jtatum: hey, some people from the FL team are going to be in SF for google i/o | 23:44 |
| crashsystems | even better would be a meeting in san jose :D | 23:44 |
| jamalta | we're thinking about doing a get together of some sort, maybe for dinner or something | 23:44 |
| jamalta | crashsystems: i guess i could do that, does caltrain go to san jose? | 23:44 |
| jamalta | i don't have a car anymore | 23:44 |
| jtatum | 5/10-5/11? | 23:44 |
| jamalta | yeah, it's a tuesday and wednesday | 23:44 |
| jtatum | looks good on my calendar | 23:44 |
| jamalta | i know it's annoying since it's in the middle of the week | 23:45 |
| crashsystems | I'm actually in sunnyvale, so for going to sf it makes the most sense to go to the mountian view stop | 23:45 |
| crashsystems | I think it goes to sj though | 23:45 |
| jamalta | crashsystems: ah, if it's a friday or something i can just work from SV (probably) and ... | 23:45 |
| jtatum | crashsystems: caltrain, not vta :) | 23:45 |
| jamalta | well the annoying thing would be figuring out how to get back to SF lol | 23:45 |
| jamalta | brb | 23:45 |
| crashsystems | yeah, there is a light rail and caltrain stop at the same place in mountian view | 23:46 |
| jtatum | indeed… but there's a caltrain stop in sunnyvale too :) | 23:46 |
| jtatum | my brother just moved to the worst part of san fran | 23:47 |
| crashsystems | I think I've been to that one actually, though it involved busses | 23:47 |
| jtatum | been having fun making trips up there | 23:47 |
| kdub | what's the worst part of san francisco? | 23:48 |
| jtatum | the tenderloin | 23:51 |
| iheartubuntu | what makes it bad | 23:51 |
| jtatum | they put up a twitter: http://twitter.com/ofarrellwebcam | 23:51 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont think ive ever been through there actually | 23:54 |
| iheartubuntu | i wonder what the rents like... cant be too high... but it is still SF | 23:55 |
| * kdub wonders if SD or SF has higher rent | 23:56 | |
| jtatum | they are splitting a room. $1100. tiny | 23:56 |
| iheartubuntu | yikes | 23:56 |
| jtatum | yeah, for that neighborhood… i think they're getting robbed actually | 23:56 |
| iheartubuntu | right now? | 23:57 |
| iheartubuntu | ohh the apt | 23:57 |
| jtatum | jamalta or pleia2 can probably speak more to the rents in general | 23:57 |
| kdub | i like that area up by the giants stadium, embacardo, i think | 23:58 |
| kdub | for apartments | 23:59 |
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