[00:32] evidence suggests, not so much [02:10] mwhudson: what evidence? [02:11] Chipaca: the fact that ubuntuone-syncdaemon was using 3 gigs of ram and making my machine unusable [02:11] mwhudson: when? [02:11] Chipaca: until about 5 minutes ago when i killed it [02:12] heh [02:12] cool [02:12] verterok: facundobatista: ^ [02:12] Chipaca: i just upgraded to natty, and didn't run it at all during maverick [02:12] i last tried just before upgrading to maverick i think [02:14] mwhudson: it should be able to *cope* with that number of files, especially at release [02:15] mwhudson: but i don't think we've profiled it with that many files yet [02:15] mwhudson: verterok and/or facundo would know [02:16] Chipaca: maybe i need to delete the existing state or something? [02:16] mwhudson: that's a lot of files, so I'd recommend if you can to wait for verterok [02:16] for that question at least [02:17] do you have debug enabled? [02:18] Chipaca: err maybe? [02:19] i think i may have enabled that last time around [02:19] you'd have ~/.cache/ubuntuone/log/syncdaemon-debug.log in that case [02:19] dated today [02:20] Chipaca: ah no, just syncdaemon.log [02:21] which seems to have a log of DEBUG messages in it though [02:21] mwhudson: and grep -c DEBUG in syncdaemon.log is a 0? [02:21] ah [02:21] that's the other way :) [02:22] mwhudson: what're the DEBUG statements going on about? [02:22] "2011-04-14 13:20:58,293 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.HQ.hasher - DEBUG - Hasher: path hash pushed: ..." was the most recent one [02:23] 2011-04-14 13:20:58,285 - ubuntuone.SyncDaemon.sync - INFO - -:-:- - ['-'::'-'] ''/home/mwh/Ubuntu One/Maildirs/INBOX/cur/1296592282_0.26136 [02:23] .grond,U=343750,FMD5=7e33429f656f1e6e9d79b29c3f82c57e:2,S'' | Calling new_local_file (got FS_FILE_CREATE:{}) [02:23] ok [02:23] was the most recent INFO [02:23] woh [02:23] it hadn't occurred to me to put my mail in u1 [02:24] only 200k+ files, because i lost all of it three years ago or so [02:24] Chipaca: thats because you know how u1 works :) [02:24] no, no, it makes sense [02:24] as opposed to putting bzr branches in it :) [02:24] mwhudson: you could use bzr [no disrepect to u1 intended] [02:25] none taken [02:25] eek, the daemon is back [02:25] take that, daemon [02:25] lifeless: that would probably be more sensible, yes [02:25] mwhudson: well, it depends on your use case [02:26] could != should :) [02:26] lifeless: it will probably result in a more usable machine [02:26] Chipaca: how can i stop ubuntuone-syncdaemon from running? [02:28] mwhudson: ubuntuone-control-panel, services tab, unclick file sync [02:28] Chipaca: thanks [02:30] i shall try again some time when more people are awake in here :) [08:40] morning all [09:47] Tea and chocolate Hobnobs. What better way to bid you good morning? [09:56] https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntu-sso-client/fix_merge_27/+merge/57633 === zyga_ is now known as zyga [11:03] ralsina_, fagan: please look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/forgotten_password/+merge/57167 [11:03] I need a review for that one too [11:03] ralsina_: your branch was merged but you did not review it [11:04] Conflict of interest is funny [11:05] fagan: please test lp:~ralsina/ubuntu-sso-client/fix_conflict_clean_ui in natty [11:06] ralsina_: cool will do [12:28] duanedesign: are you helping with the backlog? [12:29] you and I commented on a bug at the same time [12:29] :) [12:48] fagan: I have not triaged as many U1 bugs this cycle as I have in the past. I am trying to get back to triaging the same number I did in past cycles [13:10] after upgrading ubuntuone-client to 1.5.8+r952~maverick1 (PPA), after rebooting i lost the 'ubuntu one' entry in my Preferences menu. my tomboy notes are still not sync'ing [13:13] hello pmatulis_ [13:13] duanedesign: hi [13:14] pmatulis_: you should be able to find Ubuntu One under the Me Menu [13:15] duanedesign: what's that? [13:16] pmatulis_: take a look at the Me Menu (the menu with your name in the top right), if not their check the Messaging Menu (the menu with the envelope) [13:16] duanedesign: no, nothing under either [13:16] ok [13:18] pmatulis_: can you open a terminal [13:18] duanedesign: yes [13:19] pmatulis_: and run the command: ps aux | grep ubu [13:20] duanedesign: no client running :( [13:20] does it return anything: ubuntuone-* [13:20] duanedesign: no [13:20] ok [13:20] duanedesign: wait [13:21] can you try the command: /usr/bin/ubuntuone-launch [13:21] duanedesign: i was on the wrong machine [13:21] duanedesign: usr/bin/python /usr/lib/ubuntuone-client/ubuntuone-syncdaemon [13:21] aha, ok [13:23] pmatulis_: what do you get from the command: u1sdtool -s [13:24] State: QUEUE_MANAGER [13:24] connection: With User With Network [13:24] description: processing the commands pool [13:24] is_connected: True [13:24] is_error: False [13:24] is_online: True [13:24] queues: IDLE [13:26] duanedesign: i just asked tomboy to sync it and looks like it worked. i had been editing notes on the web ui and now my local notes are sync'ed [13:26] pmatulis_: and you are on Maverick? [13:26] duanedesign: i was afraid of doing that before b/c i thought my online (newer) notes would be overwritten [13:27] duanedesign: but everything looks ok so far [13:27] duanedesign: yes, maverick [13:29] pmatulis_: do you have the package ubuntuone-control-panel installed? you can check with the command: dpkg -l ubuntuone-control-panel [13:30] duanedesign: no [13:30] aha [13:30] so you are missing a package [13:30] duanedesign: new since when? should not be installed by default? [13:31] hmmm. The version in the PPA failed to build [13:31] duanedesign: ah [13:31] let me see where you might be able to get that [13:32] duanedesign: it looks available to me. is that an illusion? [13:32] duanedesign: (according to apt-cache) [13:35] which PPA are you using? [13:36] ubuntuone-nightlies-maverick.list [13:36] cool, see if it installs [13:37] duanedesign: it installed fine [13:38] duanedesign: now i see an entry under "the envelope" [13:38] duanedesign: ah cool lets hope we an get the number of bugs down then [13:38] ive been moving down the list myself while waiting for code reviews and the like [13:39] pmatulis_: awesome [13:39] duanedesign: everything seems to work now! [13:39] duanedesign: oh and could you mark the old bugs as incomplete [13:39] they dont expire if you leave them as new [13:40] duanedesign: thanks for your support. maybe look at why the control panel had to be installed manually [13:40] fagan: yeah that is a bad habit I have. [13:40] duanedesign: its cool but ive been trying to clear the queue so its kinda needed [13:40] pmatulis_: I will mention it. Glad we got it working [13:41] (its either that or I can do it) [13:41] pmatulis_, are you on kubuntu? [13:41] * rye__ lost the scrollback [13:43] fagan: no i understand. I used to like to keep them New for a couple days to see if the OP responded to the request for more info. [13:44] duanedesign: if you mark as incomplete right away it tends to catch the ones that dont respond and doesnt effect the others so its nice to use :) [13:45] duanedesign: if you do it ill buy you a drink if we ever happen to meet [13:45] :P [13:45] fagan: I was missing responses from folks because I was usually only reviewing the New queue. I have been marking most as incomplete now. I do forget occasionaly [13:45] cool [13:46] fagan: but your right it is a better policy [13:46] yeah I do tend to be right once out of every 10 tries [13:54] hello! [13:55] hey alecu [13:55] hi fagan, how's the sprint going? [14:00] alecu: good but mandel wants to kill half of you so hide [14:00] :) [14:01] mandel, what happened? [14:01] alecu: all the tests on windows are broken [14:01] (and as well as the fun with the tests being broken we got blocked by tarmac getting broken and lp being broken) [14:01] someone has added code in the platform package [14:02] mandel, We should have a tarmac that starts a windows machine [14:02] alecu: there is something in rt about it [14:02] mandel, have you find that code? is there a way we can help? [14:02] alecu: no worries, I'm on it :) [14:03] alecu: I did swear outloud, but yo know it happens [14:03] mandel has a way more smiling face on IRC than IRL [14:03] yeah, I've seen that happen. A few times. Perhaps more than a few. [14:03] we jus have to put in place the tools to prevent this from happening :) [14:04] and be more careful since we are supporting more than 1 platform [14:05] (I think mandel_ is going crazy he is singing now) [14:07] fagan, what is he singing? He's on the borderline... [14:07] alecu: its in spanish I cant tell [14:08] esta cantando: "una americana me la mene* en una tienda de campaña" al ritmo de "un elefante se columpiaba" [14:10] juas! [14:12] * fagan needs to install half of gnome's packages in the repo to build u1cp [14:12] :/ [14:12] rye__: no, ubuntu [14:13] fagan, how are you installing those? [14:13] alecu: from the natty repo [14:13] fagan, what command are you using? [14:13] fagan, something like: apt-get build-dep ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk [14:13] alecu: im using ./autogen.sh and getting whatever it says is missing [14:14] fagan, guessed so. Don't. [14:14] alecu: I did build dep for ubuntuone-control-panel and its till missing [14:14] *still [14:14] fagan, use build dep, but for -gtk [14:14] do you guys have any UI guidelines for the web app part of U1? [14:14] jml, beuno may know [14:14] jml: what ever the designers say is the guidelines :) [14:16] alecu: there is no ubuntuone-control-panel-gtk and -gnome just points to the ubuntuone-control panel package [14:16] fagan: I can see how that might be effective. It's not a practical approach for Launchpad though. [14:16] beuno: do you guys have any UI guidelines for the web app part of U1? [14:17] fagan, try sudo apt-get build-dep ubuntuone-client-gnome [14:18] alecu: it just said ubuntuone-control-panel package is already installed [14:18] * fagan tried it [14:18] I got it now though [14:18] I was just missing a few gnome things [14:19] jml: im pretty sure they follow the guidelines from http://design.canonical.com/the-toolkit/ [14:20] (but they are redoing stuff at the moment) [14:20] fagan: those are good, but they're only a start. for a web app (as opposed to a web site), they are insufficient. [14:20] jml, what specifically are you looking for? [14:20] rockstar, do you guys have any UI guidelines for the web app part of U1? [14:20] jml, we do not [14:20] jml: I thought there are website guidelines in there too [14:21] Yeah, just what tumbles around in my head and what I can do with what I get from design. [14:21] interesting. [14:21] jml, our UI is vastly more simple than Launchpad's. [14:21] jml: i believe we try to minimize the differences in UX between web, mobile, and Ubuntu [14:22] for LP though, that's hard since it's really all web right now [14:22] fagan: I think you misread what I wrote [14:22] jml: ah ok web app bit [14:22] dobey: well, there's email & command-line, but yes. [14:22] jml, our website has been tiny-ish so far, with very few hands on the user-visible content, so the need for it hasn't been higher than other things [14:23] also LP is vast, and has a lot of legacy UI, and many developers who disagree [14:23] * fagan just went "web" and stopped there [14:23] few hands == 2-3 people [14:23] jml: i don't think you want the LP web apps to look like mutt though [14:23] beuno: that makes sense. [14:23] dobey: it'd be nice if it had a keyboard interface as good as mutt's :) [14:23] jml, so we try to enforce some consistent UI by sharing lots of code [14:23] For the most part, each app is a simple CRUD app. [14:24] jml: i'd be happy if i could just predict what was going to happen when i click on certain things :) [14:24] dobey: well you see, that's why we need UI guidelines [14:24] beuno: yeah, code sharing is definitely an important part of the solution, but for us, I think only part. [14:24] jml, I would be happy to help draft some Canonical-wide guidelines. [14:25] rockstar: that's a much harder problem than I want to solve. [14:25] beuno: another part is changing the existing code to be right so when dev's copy-and-paste they copy something that's correct. [14:26] mandel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/594012/ (dont have to look at it now) [14:26] jml: or changing the existing code so they don' thave to copy/paste it everywhere :) [14:26] jml, yeap, we tend to have an "example app" that we copy and paste off of, that app changes over time as we improve things [14:27] dobey: well yeah, that's the "sharing code" angle. [14:27] dobey: but after you've refactored, you've got to update all the original call sites. that's something LP hasn't done a great job of in the past. [14:28] rockstar: if Canonical had webapp UI guidelines that would help me a lot, so please feel free to have a go. [14:28] jml: yeah, refactoring large projects can be hard [14:28] rockstar: but I'm still waiting on a branch page revamp and fixes to tarmac that support Launchpad's landing process that you promised me :P [14:30] jml, yeah, you'll be waiting a long time. [14:30] fagan, regarding the pastebin you posted, try looking into the code mentioned in the stacktrace in it. [14:31] fagan, looks like /usr/bin/u1lint is failing [14:31] alecu: its pyflakes not being installed [14:31] * fagan reported a bug [14:32] anyway, thanks guys [14:32] jml: sorry about the confusion :) [14:32] fagan: that's ok :) [14:32] jml: see you around the office :P [14:32] fagan: if I had easy questions, I wouldn't have to ask them. [14:33] jml: good idea I should follow that too :D [14:35] hi duanedesign! [14:36] Hello? [14:36] hey Harris [14:37] Can you help me with my Ubuntu One account? [14:37] Harris: what is the problem? [14:37] I bought a music album from the Ubuntu One store but it is not downloading. [14:38] fagan, ralsina_ : please take a look at this guy: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix_tests_on_windows/+merge/57677 [14:38] Harris: what version of Ubuntu are you on? [14:38] 10.10 [14:38] hello alecu [14:39] Harris: if you open a terminal and run "u1sdtool --list-folders" does it show the "Purchased from Ubuntu One" folder as subscribed? [14:40] Harris, also: was the music downloaded to https://one.ubuntu.com/files/ ? [14:40] It says "No Folders". [14:40] Harris: you purchased the album in Rhythmbox? [14:40] Yes [14:41] Harris: can you check that it's on the web site, as alecu mentioned? [14:41] I see the files there [14:42] hrmm. ok [14:42] The problem is that Rythem Box is saying that they are being downloaded but they're not. [14:43] Each file says Downloaded: 0MB [14:43] verterok: hola! ^^ can you help Harris please? it seems his music folder doesn't show up in --list-folders :( [14:44] dobey: sure [14:44] Harris: hi there! [14:44] Hello [14:45] Harris: right, it seems like something is stuck. I'm sorry you are hitting a bug. Hopefully verterok can help you get it resolved, and we can prevent it happening for others. [14:45] * verterok reads the backlog [14:45] I belive I have fixed the problem myself, I clicked connect in my Ubuntu One settings menu. [14:46] Harris: do you have a "Purchased Music" entry in https://one.ubuntu.com/files/? [14:46] The files are now downloading. [14:46] Harris: oh, so, the album is being downloaded? [14:46] cool [14:46] ah so simple [14:46] Thanks for your help anyway [14:46] must remember, always check the plug first [14:47] Bye [14:47] cheers Harris [14:51] ralsina_: should we have the meeting an hour earlier? [14:51] fagan: we have it when google says we have it :-) [14:51] hah [14:54] fagan, ralsina_: this is the one: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntuone-client/fix_tests_on_windows/+merge/57677 [14:54] kk [15:00] ralsina_: the weekly meeting? [15:00] yes, we are having it today [15:00] dobey: in 1:15 [15:01] yeah i know when it is [15:01] dobey: ok then [15:02] i had to get a later appt. for haircut today because of it :) [15:03] dobey: I wondered about it too [15:03] :) [15:04] mandel: patience young padawan [15:05] mandel: you need to fix the pyflakes warnings for your add_tcp_port_namedpipe branch also [15:05] dobey: :) [15:05] dobey: he doesnt need patience he has 2 people handling all his merges personally [15:05] is _ easier to type on spanish keyboards or something? :) [15:05] dobey: there should be fixed… unless we have some thing diff between ralsina_ , fagan and the tarmac machine [15:06] dobey: you can look at my bug too its pretty easy to fix [15:06] I'm trunsting them on the linux side [15:06] fagan: what are you talking about [15:07] dobey: nevertheless the tcp_named_pipe one will not be merged because the tests cannot be ran at all on windows, so If I approved those I probably just clicked too fast [15:07] ok [15:07] mandel: it was set to approved and failed last night with pyflakes warnings [15:07] dobey: I prefer _ :P [15:08] * fagan needs to learn to read [15:08] dobey, ping [15:08] mandel: i know you're a masochist, but damn [15:08] rodrigo_: yo [15:08] dobey, about http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/593729/ , is that on maverick or anything other than natty? [15:09] rodrigo_: on maverick yes [15:09] dobey: puflakes have been fixed, now is a comepletely diff problem which is way more fucked up :( [15:09] and _ is not that hard [15:09] dobey, ok, so on maverick e_book_backend_get_cache_dir doesn't exist? [15:10] rodrigo_: i don't know. it seems to only be an issue on amd64. the i386 compiled ok with the last nightlies build. [15:11] rodrigo_: if it didn't exist, i would expect errors and not warnings i guess. but maybe it's not doing that because we're building it as a module? [15:12] dobey, yes, it's a .so [15:12] dobey, if it's complaining about that, I guess it doesn't exist [15:12] so I'll #ifdef the old code we had to get the cache dir [15:16] dobey, can you easily add a patch and rebuild? [15:20] rodrigo_: no, the nightlies are automatically built on LP. if a change lands in git though, I can request another build [15:21] dobey, well, I wanted to make sure before pushing to git, but yes, I guess I can revert if it doesn't work [15:23] dobey, pushed [15:24] ok [15:55] ralsina_: https://code.launchpad.net/~mandel/ubuntu-sso-client/error_message_style_and_image/+merge/56712 === clarita_ is now known as clarita [16:04] clarita: I had 1 thing I left out in the css magic thing I gave lessetta its the thing to handle events (like the wrong info in a text box) [16:04] Could you pass on this link http://paste.ubuntu.com/594066/ [16:04] fagan: sure [16:04] she can replace error with anything she wants [16:05] fagan: lisette is here! [16:05] clarita: I was spelling it wrong doh [16:05] lisette: http://paste.ubuntu.com/594066/ you can handle events like this [16:06] just replace error with what ever you want [16:06] and then we can do specific things where ever you want [16:08] So you can put in there [input_error=true] and then when we detect the input error we can apply that look [16:10] lisette: if you dont understand me its ok you can just give us what ever you can do [16:10] fagan: getting my head around this, hold on.. [16:12] lisette: cool the moral of the story is anything in brackets wont be done by default but we can enable it for something we need to handle in the ui [16:13] fagan: so i just paste in the css? [16:14] lisette: when you are done you can paste it [16:15] fagan: done as in, when I edited it to what I want? but I won´t get a visual on this, will I? [16:15] lisette: you wont get a visual no but it will work with a little bit of code to trigger it [16:16] lisette: I can make it work if you want and give you a new version [16:17] alecu dobey, mandel, whoever may concern: call? [16:17] fagan: it will be ok for now I think, because the css is so simple. As for spacing it out on the installer, that will be the hard part [16:18] oh right [16:18] let me get my laptop out [16:20] mandel: someone typoed a bug # in that error_message_style branch [16:20] dobey: what do you mean? [16:20] lisette: sorry computer blew up [16:20] ralsina_, mi driver de sonido está fallando [16:20] shoot [16:20] fagan: no worries :) [16:20] want me to make a better one for you [16:20] my sound driver is making alien voice like sounds [16:21] dobey: wrong num you mean? [16:21] dobey: I'll fix that [16:22] lisette: I can fix it in 5 an explain it to you how to use it [16:22] fagan: no i think it will be fine for now, because the hardest part of errors will be to make space for them on the screens (which I don´t think Iĺl be able to do through css anyway..) [16:22] mandel: too late to fix it, already landed [16:22] puta! [16:22] lisette: I mean for the style of just the boxes when an error happens [16:22] dobey: any way to fix that [16:22] ??\ [16:23] lisette: Ill just do it and show you since it may be needed [16:23] mandel: not sure [16:23] fagan: ok [16:23] (or it definitely be needed) [16:29] we are doomed! [16:31] mandel, ralsina_: I didn't get the part of the buildbot/hudson [16:31] mandel, ralsina_: are we moving forward with that? [16:31] alecu: they were asking about windows [16:31] alecu: we can't actually block merges, but with hudson we at least can blame people ;-) [16:31] for windows breakage [16:32] ralsina_: well, if we get hudson stuff set up doing CI testing, we can then do some integration to block merges; but we can't do it without CI in hudson [16:32] or i guess, jenkins as it is called now [16:32] I blame the part on sd people and the other part of who over worked on the unity integration [16:32] mandel, yeah, that's me. [16:33] mandel, we got that session logout branch in a hurry. Didn't we ralsina_ ? :-) [16:33] alecu: yes we did [16:33] mandel: we thought we had a final freeze in 2 hours [16:33] mandel, anyway: I'd really like some more ideas on how to make this kind of things easier for you. [16:34] mandel, I'm pretty sure ralsina_ is really up to date by now... [16:34] alecu: yeah, I'm been told, no worry [16:34] mandel, but a CI process would really have helped. [16:34] alecu: no, I'm not [16:34] alecu: I just want to make you feel bad ;) [16:34] alecu: I have decided I now suck as a programmer, and will start a new career in knitting. [16:34] only problem with CI is that it's hard, and something else we have to maintain :( [16:34] next time, I'll go to the sprint to so I can keep up the things tidy [16:34] mandel, oh, don't worry. I'm currently dancing to the tune of "mandel is angry!" [16:35] hahaha [16:35] dobey: I have CI running for other projects, I know how to do it [16:35] alecu: I'm not angry, I'm tired… [16:35] dobey: it's an oldish hudson instance, but it should work [16:35] ralsina_, I did a buildbot installation for a previous job, and it's not so hard at all. [16:35] and we have not done as much as we should have done :( [16:36] alecu: we need more than just build and make test though. what we really need is integration testing too [16:36] simpler stuff is easier, sure. but doing all the integration testing and having tarmac integrate with it and all that, is harder :) [16:36] mandel, would the recent problems have been found had the "make check" been run on windows anyway? [16:37] alecu: yes [16:37] dobey, I'm not proposing tarmac integration, just a buildbot or hudson that mails when something breaks the windows tests [16:38] and as facundo proposed we should have the server tests run on the client as well [16:38] since that's something that we seldom do. [16:38] huh? [16:38] I'm pretty sure making the server run the windows tests would be quite difficult. [16:39] just reporting is good enough [16:39] the server shouldn't be running client tests, and the client shouldn't be running server tests. that's a complete mess, and we need to pull integration tests out of unit tests [16:39] rodrigo_: evo-couchdb built on maverick now. thanks [16:40] dobey, right, the tests on lib/canonical/tests/ on ubuntuone-servers should only be run on the CI instances. [16:45] fagan: http://paste.ubuntu.com/594012/ [16:45] dobey, no warnings [16:45] dobey, ? [16:45] rodrigo_: well the build succeeded. i didn't check the log for warnings, but that same one at least isn't there :) [16:55] lisette: i have it now just 5 minutes and ill be down with it [16:56] lisette: is that cool with you? [16:58] fagan: of course, anytime! [16:58] lisette: well not at 11 o clock at night :P [16:59] fagan: i might still be here [17:06] alright, lunch time, and an appointment. bbiab [17:09] lisette: anyway if you have any issues ping me [17:09] * fagan speaks like a programmer so is hard to follow [17:09] mandel: https://code.launchpad.net/~ralsina/ubuntu-sso-client/forgotten_password_fix_merge/+merge/57718 [17:18]