| sogepp | yo~ | 00:56 |
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| jiohdi | (^_^) | 00:57 |
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| kristian-aalborg | hurm, I made a .desktop file that freezes the system | 03:14 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: congrats :) | 03:15 |
| holstein | you going to go in with a live CD and fix it? | 03:16 |
| kristian-aalborg | no, I have to start the program before it happens | 03:17 |
| kristian-aalborg | I found another desktop to use as a template to the one I just tried... let's see how that works out | 03:17 |
| kristian-aalborg | absurd... same thing happens | 03:19 |
| kristian-aalborg | I can move the mouse but nothing else | 03:19 |
| nhandler | kristian-aalborg: Try using desktop-file-validate from desktop-file-utils on it | 03:53 |
| kristian-aalborg | nhandler: thanks | 03:55 |
| kristian-aalborg | alas, it seems to actually be a "feature" of the system for once, not me messing up | 04:03 |
| kristian-aalborg | but enough for today | 04:03 |
| kristian-aalborg | btw - holstein - did you play with minimal systems now and then? | 04:03 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: yup | 04:04 |
| holstein | still do | 04:05 |
| kristian-aalborg | just found matchbox WM, it's neat | 04:05 |
| holstein | cool | 04:05 |
| holstein | i havent check that out | 04:05 |
| kristian-aalborg | you can start an app fullscreen in it and nothing else | 04:05 |
| holstein | kristian-aalborg: just one at a time? | 04:06 |
| kristian-aalborg | I have "matchbox -fullscreen gmpc" for instance... | 04:06 |
| holstein | no minimize? | 04:06 |
| kristian-aalborg | yes | 04:06 |
| kristian-aalborg | close the app and X dies | 04:06 |
| holstein | interesting | 04:07 |
| kristian-aalborg | of course, you can use it in a more traditional way also if so inclined | 04:07 |
| holstein | you have matchbox-panel installed? | 04:07 |
| kristian-aalborg | but I was getting (more) gray hairs trying to have xinit do this thing so I'm happy | 04:07 |
| * holstein looks for screenies | 04:07 | |
| kristian-aalborg | no, so far I have fbpanel... I might give it a look, though | 04:08 |
| holstein | that sounds fun actually | 04:09 |
| kristian-aalborg | yes | 04:09 |
| kristian-aalborg | it's made for mobile phones etc... | 04:10 |
| kristian-aalborg | devices with the horsepower of an old computer :) | 04:10 |
| kristian-aalborg | ok, see ya later | 04:12 |
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| UbuntuN00b | can anyone help me finish off an advanced ubuntu install grub help | 06:55 |
| bioterror | w00t? | 06:56 |
| bioterror | what's wrong with your grub | 06:56 |
| * nlsthzn-work heard an owl... | 06:58 | |
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| UbuntuN00b | anyovdy help with grub2 netbook remix dual boot | 07:15 |
| nlsthzn-work | UbuntuN00b: bioterror requested more information about your problem... you don't need to ask if you can ask... just ask :p | 07:20 |
| bioterror | ahhh | 07:20 |
| bioterror | he msgd me | 07:21 |
| bioterror | and I was on phone :D | 07:21 |
| UbuntuN00b | no worries | 07:21 |
| bioterror | yeah | 07:21 |
| bioterror | install grub on /dev/sda (which ubuntu should do automatically, I assume) and reboot | 07:21 |
| bioterror | UbuntuN00b, you should boot livecd, mount your linux partition and edit /boot/grub/grub.cfg | 07:23 |
| bioterror | you should look for a | 07:23 |
| bioterror | I dont have linux here atm. as I am at work | 07:24 |
| bioterror | but vmlinuz something | 07:24 |
| bioterror | there should be UUID | 07:24 |
| bioterror | and you should make sure that you have correct UUID | 07:24 |
| bioterror | sudo blkid | 07:24 |
| bioterror | in terminals tells you what's the UUID of your linux drive | 07:24 |
| bioterror | (partition) | 07:24 |
| UbuntuN00b | kk ill boot into live and get back to you in a min | 07:25 |
| UbuntuN00b | can i just use gparted to mount it or do i have to do it through terminal? | 07:26 |
| bioterror | you can use nautilus to mount it | 07:27 |
| bioterror | or what ever you want | 07:27 |
| bioterror | does not matter | 07:27 |
| bioterror | !grub | 07:27 |
| ubot2 | grub is the default boot manager for Ubuntu releases before 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto - See !grub2 for Karmic onwards. | 07:27 |
| bioterror | !grub2 | 07:27 |
| ubot2 | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 07:27 |
| UbuntuN00b | ok but /dev/sda is my master hard drive with my windows.. which is where grub was suppose to be installed too | 07:27 |
| bioterror | yes | 07:28 |
| UbuntuN00b | so i take it i should actuall mount that one | 07:28 |
| bioterror | and you have it there | 07:28 |
| bioterror | as you get into grub rescue | 07:28 |
| bioterror | no | 07:28 |
| bioterror | you should mount your linux drive | 07:28 |
| UbuntuN00b | k | 07:28 |
| bioterror | as you have something wrong with the grub parameters | 07:28 |
| UbuntuN00b | ok i mounted the drive just opening terminal | 07:29 |
| UbuntuN00b | so what were you saying about a UUID? | 07:30 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, editing the grub,cfg is not recomended follow this. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling%20GRUB%202 | 07:32 |
| bioterror | nit-wit, you dont trust me? | 07:33 |
| nit-wit | I'm sure your fine but there may be an easier way.;) | 07:33 |
| nit-wit | brb | 07:33 |
| bioterror | that's bs | 07:34 |
| bioterror | as the problem is that grub cant find device | 07:34 |
| bioterror | but I'm off to do work | 07:34 |
| bioterror | as I get paid for that | 07:34 |
| UbuntuN00b | ok | 07:34 |
| komatose | trying to install uplink (hehe), having some issues.. can't seem to set permissions to run the exe, the checkbox and menus reset themselves. i tried it as root (gksu nautilus?) with the same problem. | 07:35 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, if you run this script we will see what and where everything is, pastebin it if needed.http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ | 07:36 |
| UbuntuN00b | alright just give me a sec i'm on my main laptop, will need to log on to irc with live/netbook | 07:36 |
| UbuntuN00b | if you want to see what i have done up to now see http://paste.ubuntu.com/594346/ | 07:38 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, cool the script will give us the lowdown, I want to see if all the boot files and how the mbr looks | 07:41 |
| nit-wit | *mbr's | 07:42 |
| UbuntuN00b | kk | 07:42 |
| keidori | hello | 07:52 |
| keidori | so what is the ubuntu beginners team? | 07:53 |
| keidori | nvm | 07:54 |
| UbuntuN00b | .http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ | 07:55 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, can you run the script on that site? | 08:00 |
| ubuntun00b1 | yeah i just did where do i post it? | 08:00 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, hold on I will get you a pastebin link | 08:01 |
| ubuntun00b1 | kk thanks | 08:01 |
| nit-wit | http://paste.ubuntu.com/ | 08:02 |
| ubuntun00b1 | http://paste.ubuntu.com/594361/ | 08:03 |
| nit-wit | cool hold on | 08:03 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, so you haven't installed it it looks to me there is some reference but the two partitions are not the correct types. Two cards and 2 partitions. | 08:07 |
| ubuntun00b1 | ? | 08:08 |
| ubuntun00b1 | the 4gb one is my usb stick (live install) | 08:09 |
| bioterror | /dev/mmcblk0p1 d11c5bd6-6651-4b6f-beeb-d2b04a14f497 ext4 | 08:10 |
| bioterror | /dev/mmcblk0p5 1eb913a8-0ba4-4981-ab7b-c31bb90ca1ac swap | 08:10 |
| bioterror | those are his ubuntun installations | 08:10 |
| bioterror | I assume? | 08:10 |
| ubuntun00b1 | yup | 08:10 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, so is it that you can't boot xp on its own that is the problem | 08:10 |
| ubuntun00b1 | the loader doesnt come up at all | 08:10 |
| nit-wit | bioterror, I'm not familiar with that area | 08:11 |
| ubuntun00b1 | just goes to the rescue prompt | 08:11 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, do you have a xp disc | 08:11 |
| ubuntun00b1 | yeah | 08:11 |
| ubuntun00b1 | welll usb xp loader | 08:11 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, boot it to the command line and run /fixmbr | 08:12 |
| ubuntun00b1 | kk | 08:12 |
| bioterror | why? | 08:12 |
| nit-wit | bioterror, does that make any sense to you I have never seen that notation I think it is a mistake | 08:12 |
| bioterror | what I see | 08:12 |
| bioterror | he has windows XP on sda1 | 08:12 |
| bioterror | and grub sees it | 08:12 |
| nit-wit | bioterror, he has xp on the sda drive and grub in the mbr | 08:12 |
| ubuntun00b1 | ill wait a minute hehe | 08:12 |
| bioterror | and he has linux on mmcblkup5 | 08:13 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 08:13 |
| * bioterror thinks | 08:13 | |
| nit-wit | what is mmcblkup5???? | 08:13 |
| bioterror | it's a SD card | 08:13 |
| ubuntun00b1 | i mean if if the grub resue prompt comes up can we go from there to rout it | 08:14 |
| ubuntun00b1 | ? | 08:14 |
| nit-wit | bioterror, I have sdhc class 10 cards and have installed and never seen any thing like that but who knows | 08:14 |
| bioterror | I think best option would be | 08:14 |
| bioterror | fix MBR so that grub gets erased from sda | 08:14 |
| ubuntun00b1 | it might be because the sd/slot is not usb its pci | 08:14 |
| bioterror | and install ubuntu agai on the sd card and keep care that grub gets installed on the sd card | 08:14 |
| bioterror | instead of sda | 08:14 |
| ubuntun00b1 | no | 08:15 |
| ubuntun00b1 | because bios can't boot to it | 08:15 |
| ubuntun00b1 | acer aspire can't boot to sd/card reader | 08:15 |
| bioterror | you can choose from boot menu to boot from sd card? | 08:15 |
| bioterror | cant | 08:15 |
| ubuntun00b1 | casue its pci | 08:15 |
| bioterror | right? | 08:15 |
| ubuntun00b1 | no | 08:15 |
| bioterror | can you choose from boot menu "sd card"? | 08:15 |
| ubuntun00b1 | its not natively bootable | 08:15 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, grub generally has to be on the hd, card...etc as the install. | 08:16 |
| bioterror | if the grub cant find device | 08:16 |
| bioterror | it sounds like your bios cant see it, neither does grub | 08:16 |
| bioterror | and you dont have that device until you have OS booted | 08:16 |
| ubuntun00b1 | i figured grub could because it was linuxed based | 08:17 |
| ubuntun00b1 | and linux can see it | 08:17 |
| bioterror | I tell you something | 08:17 |
| bioterror | linux is a kernel, just like windows has kernel | 08:17 |
| bioterror | and it has all the drivers | 08:17 |
| bioterror | so if your bios cant see the SD card, neither does grub | 08:17 |
| ubuntun00b1 | lame... | 08:17 |
| ubuntun00b1 | there were tutorials on the net i just couldn't figure them out | 08:18 |
| bioterror | grub doesnt load the kernel | 08:18 |
| bioterror | or how can I say it | 08:18 |
| ubuntun00b1 | for the acer problem | 08:18 |
| bioterror | grub doesnt include itself drivers for things, it just sniffs what it can find | 08:19 |
| bioterror | ubuntun00b1, can you provide us the documents? | 08:19 |
| ubuntun00b1 | sec | 08:19 |
| bioterror | I would suggest to grab bigger drive | 08:19 |
| bioterror | and make a dual boot on it | 08:19 |
| ubuntun00b1 | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1455622 | 08:23 |
| ubuntun00b1 | this isn't the one i was looking at but its the general idea | 08:23 |
| ubuntun00b1 | its not a huge deal.... i thought this would be a lot easier | 08:24 |
| ubuntun00b1 | can't put a bigger drive in... its one of the first models.. friend gave it to me | 08:24 |
| ubuntun00b1 | the hd is a moulded sd card connect via zif | 08:24 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, there is no mention of a windows set up in the master sda and doing this | 08:26 |
| nit-wit | it would work fine if you had a grub install in sda as well | 08:26 |
| nit-wit | a distro installed in sda2 for example | 08:26 |
| bioterror | hmmm | 08:26 |
| bioterror | that guide on that page uses legacy grub | 08:27 |
| bioterror | menu.lst | 08:27 |
| nit-wit | maybe puppy linux with grub2 | 08:27 |
| bioterror | if that was mine computer, I would ditch the XP :D | 08:28 |
| nit-wit | It would be a virtual if I needed it. | 08:28 |
| ubuntun00b1 | yeah i think thats what is going to happen... i only wanted because one of the programs i use for school doesn't work with open office | 08:28 |
| ubuntun00b1 | lol i dunno if virtual will run on a netbook | 08:28 |
| bioterror | ubuntun00b1, which program? | 08:29 |
| ubuntun00b1 | alright well im gonna give up | 08:29 |
| ubuntun00b1 | endnote | 08:29 |
| ubuntun00b1 | the main reason i wanted ubuntu on the card reader | 08:29 |
| ubuntun00b1 | is it has faster read write speed over the internal | 08:29 |
| bioterror | haha | 08:29 |
| bioterror | slow SSD = fail | 08:29 |
| bioterror | and you cant even replace it | 08:30 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, I have the aspire d250 maxed the ram to 2 gigs runs lioke a champ, regular hd though | 08:30 |
| ubuntun00b1 | yeah this is the littl hd has like write 30 read 20 | 08:30 |
| ubuntun00b1 | class 10 sd cared is 30/30 | 08:30 |
| ubuntun00b1 | i did try and put a 2nd generation ipod hd in it.. because there zif | 08:31 |
| nit-wit | UbuntuN00b, I found my sdhc class 10 to transfer at 20MB but run very choppy with a install | 08:31 |
| ubuntun00b1 | but the hd was dead | 08:31 |
| ubuntun00b1 | lame.. | 08:31 |
| ubuntun00b1 | i think if i install ubuntu. the sdcard will be merged automatically | 08:31 |
| ubuntun00b1 | into the space | 08:31 |
| ubuntun00b1 | thats what i have been reading anyways | 08:31 |
| ubuntun00b1 | anyways my gf has been mad at me for the last couple hours because i have been playing with this | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | so i should go | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | thanks for the help guys | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | ill drop in tomorrow | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | lol probably have more questions | 08:33 |
| bioterror | hahaha | 08:33 |
| bioterror | couple of hours | 08:33 |
| bioterror | that's nothing | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | well actually all day... | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | lol | 08:33 |
| bioterror | hahaha | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | and some of last night | 08:33 |
| bioterror | that's more like it! | 08:33 |
| ubuntun00b1 | yeah hard for me becaus i don't know the terminal commands | 08:34 |
| bioterror | seems like you've found the fun part of Linux | 08:34 |
| ubuntun00b1 | i use to be a techy | 08:34 |
| ubuntun00b1 | so i know how sometime things can just take hours | 08:34 |
| ubuntun00b1 | always for windows though | 08:35 |
| ubuntun00b1 | really like the feel on ubuntu | 08:35 |
| MK`` | The windows computers on my network are no longer showing up in the Network folder... is there any way for me to refresh it? | 08:35 |
| ubuntun00b1 | anyways night guys | 08:35 |
| MK`` | night | 08:35 |
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| s-fox | Hello. | 09:34 |
| raju | Hello | 09:35 |
| UndiFineD | Good %greeting_time% | 09:44 |
| bioterror | windows :D | 09:44 |
| UndiFineD | nope, novell netware | 09:44 |
| bioterror | for example you can type in "run box" %userprofile%\local settings | 09:49 |
| bioterror | %userprofile%\local settings\Application Data that's handy | 09:51 |
| Puck` | lol | 09:56 |
| Puck` | ((: | 09:56 |
| UndiFineD | me thinks bioterror lost it some time ago | 10:09 |
| zkriesse | Yo all! | 10:37 |
| * nlsthzn-work spies zkriesse here too... spooky | 10:38 | |
| zkriesse | haha | 10:38 |
| UndiFineD | hey zach | 10:39 |
| MichealH | bioterror: %appdata% | 11:57 |
| * MichealH runs | 11:57 | |
| bioterror | :D | 11:58 |
| bioterror | I didnt remember that :D | 11:58 |
| bioterror | that's even better! | 11:58 |
| MichealH | heh | 12:08 |
| bioterror | with AD you can use %user% when doing network mappings | 12:10 |
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| === MrChrisDruif|AFK is now known as MrChrisDruif | ||
| sherbydip1 | can anyone help with windows | 12:37 |
| Raju | Hmmm go on | 12:38 |
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| attackulz | I got told to come here after I could not be helped in #xubuntu | 14:54 |
| attackulz | I installed Xubuntu on an older computer and have had ubuntu on my new laptop for quite some time now. I have a linksys wireless G network card for the older desktop. when I plug it in it powers up but xubuntu cannot find any wireless networks. or even show that its working. however when I plug the wireless adapter into my laptop it works perfectly. so A. is there a way to get this network adapter to work on xubunu. and if not can I harvest | 14:54 |
| attackulz | the dr | 14:54 |
| attackulz | ivers from this machine to the other | 14:54 |
| holstein | attackulz: do you have both open now? | 14:57 |
| holstein | the first thing i would do on both is open a terminal | 14:57 |
| holstein | and run uname -r | 14:58 |
| holstein | this will tell you what kernel is running on both machines | 14:58 |
| holstein | attackulz: that should just be one little line of info | 14:58 |
| holstein | if you want to paste that here | 14:59 |
| holstein | ....or not | 15:03 |
| attackulz | sorry thought no one was here i went and got a coffee | 15:05 |
| attackulz | let me know if your still here | 15:05 |
| holstein | attackulz: o/ | 15:07 |
| attackulz | so my code is 'uname -r' | 15:08 |
| holstein | code? | 15:08 |
| attackulz | in terminal | 15:08 |
| attackulz | i type what | 15:08 |
| holstein | its just a command to print what kernel is being used | 15:08 |
| holstein | uname -r | 15:08 |
| holstein | in a terminal | 15:09 |
| attackulz | k | 15:09 |
| attackulz | laptop : 2.6.35-28-generic-pae | 15:10 |
| attackulz | and desktop is the same | 15:10 |
| holstein | desktop? | 15:11 |
| holstein | this is a pcmcia card? | 15:11 |
| holstein | or USB? | 15:11 |
| attackulz | usb | 15:11 |
| holstein | OK | 15:11 |
| attackulz | and no its not USB 2 on a USB 1 | 15:11 |
| holstein | well, you dont know what the kernel is using it as | 15:12 |
| holstein | but... | 15:12 |
| holstein | attackulz: did you do anything on the ubuntu machine? | 15:12 |
| holstein | install restricted drivers? | 15:12 |
| holstein | you just plugged it in and it worked? | 15:12 |
| attackulz | yeah | 15:15 |
| holstein | OK | 15:15 |
| holstein | 2 suggestions | 15:15 |
| attackulz | sorry man im here 100% now | 15:15 |
| holstein | i would go to the ubuntu machine | 15:15 |
| holstein | with the device in and working | 15:15 |
| attackulz | im on it | 15:15 |
| holstein | and confirm that you did *not* install any restricted drivers | 15:15 |
| holstein | and the system is not using any | 15:16 |
| holstein | then, i would use the normal ubuntu live CD on the machine that is running xubuntu | 15:16 |
| holstein | and see if it 'just works' on that hardware | 15:16 |
| attackulz | and if it does.. | 15:17 |
| holstein | then you know its possible | 15:17 |
| attackulz | lmao | 15:17 |
| attackulz | i doubt it will run | 15:17 |
| holstein | ? | 15:17 |
| attackulz | but ill tr | 15:17 |
| attackulz | whats minimum for ubuntu again? | 15:17 |
| holstein | i dont know | 15:18 |
| holstein | i usually just try it | 15:18 |
| holstein | 256 i think is the suggestion | 15:18 |
| attackulz | thats for x | 15:18 |
| holstein | attackulz: before you shut it down | 15:18 |
| holstein | the xubuntu machine | 15:18 |
| holstein | plug the wifi dongle in | 15:18 |
| holstein | and run a couple commands in the terminal | 15:18 |
| attackulz | alright let me know what ones | 15:19 |
| holstein | this is looking for the device | 15:19 |
| holstein | not sure what it will be called | 15:19 |
| holstein | BUT you can run these commands on the ubuntu machine too | 15:20 |
| holstein | and note what the device is called | 15:20 |
| attackulz | ok | 15:20 |
| holstein | thats handy for troubleshooting :) | 15:20 |
| holstein | anyways... | 15:20 |
| holstein | in a terminal | 15:20 |
| holstein | lspci | 15:20 |
| holstein | and/or | 15:20 |
| holstein | lsusb | 15:20 |
| attackulz | yeah i did lspci | 15:20 |
| attackulz | but not on this machine | 15:20 |
| holstein | i find, if you see the device with lsusb | 15:21 |
| holstein | its easier to get it going | 15:21 |
| attackulz | yeah | 15:22 |
| holstein | attackulz: it is also pretty easy to wire the machine up for a minute | 15:23 |
| attackulz | i got it on the laptop with lsusb | 15:23 |
| holstein | and upgrade packages | 15:23 |
| holstein | sometimes an update can fix functionality for a device | 15:23 |
| holstein | or break it :/ | 15:23 |
| attackulz | how can I update without an internet connection | 15:23 |
| holstein | im assuming you can wire it up | 15:24 |
| holstein | doing it without net is tricky | 15:24 |
| holstein | you'd need to DL the updated packages | 15:24 |
| attackulz | my 3 apt building shares a router | 15:24 |
| attackulz | its downstairs | 15:24 |
| attackulz | im up | 15:24 |
| holstein | attackulz: its just an option | 15:24 |
| attackulz | getting a ethernet cord is one fucking chore | 15:24 |
| holstein | if you get frustrated later | 15:24 |
| attackulz | i wish | 15:24 |
| attackulz | yeah nothing shows up on the desktop with lsusb. okay im going to try installing ubuntu | 15:25 |
| holstein | attackulz: dont install it | 15:25 |
| holstein | just run it live | 15:25 |
| attackulz | oh ya | 15:26 |
| holstein | see if you can use it from the live desktop | 15:26 |
| attackulz | however... | 15:26 |
| holstein | then you'll have a better idea of if its the hardware or not | 15:26 |
| attackulz | the desktop would not even run XUBUNTU with live desktop | 15:26 |
| holstein | that'll take xubuntu out of the equation | 15:26 |
| attackulz | until it was installed | 15:26 |
| attackulz | so i doubt it will run ubuntu | 15:26 |
| holstein | hmmmm | 15:26 |
| attackulz | from cd | 15:26 |
| holstein | well, you can wait around if you want | 15:27 |
| holstein | im sure there are some other CLI tricks im not hip to | 15:27 |
| holstein | but, it sure sounds like you might have a hardware problem | 15:27 |
| attackulz | yeah i know | 15:27 |
| holstein | with USB on the desktop | 15:27 |
| attackulz | well your a good troubleshooter | 15:28 |
| holstein | if you didnt use any proprietary drivers | 15:28 |
| holstein | and the kernels are the same | 15:28 |
| attackulz | no i didnt and yes they are | 15:28 |
| holstein | thats it really | 15:28 |
| attackulz | well im still glad i switched to linux | 15:28 |
| attackulz | the speed is incredible | 15:28 |
| holstein | yeah, its fiddly with older hardware | 15:28 |
| attackulz | windows7- this | 15:28 |
| attackulz | i like | 15:29 |
| attackulz | theres one thing i dont know about however | 15:29 |
| holstein | attackulz: i would try all the USB ports on the desktop | 15:30 |
| holstein | also | 15:30 |
| attackulz | with macs. its nearly impossible to get viruses and spyware ect... is it the same or somewhat the same with linux? | 15:30 |
| holstein | if you have another USB PCI card | 15:30 |
| holstein | i would try that | 15:30 |
| attackulz | yeah i tried them both. and my usb mouse works fine in both | 15:30 |
| holstein | attackulz: that is interesting | 15:30 |
| holstein | on the ubuntu machine | 15:30 |
| holstein | it shows up in lspci? | 15:31 |
| attackulz | no | 15:31 |
| holstein | lsusb? | 15:31 |
| attackulz | yes | 15:31 |
| holstein | OK | 15:31 |
| holstein | so, if you can get any live CD going at all | 15:31 |
| holstein | even if you cant get to a desktop | 15:31 |
| attackulz | its loading now. | 15:31 |
| holstein | and you want to check it | 15:31 |
| holstein | you can run that command | 15:32 |
| holstein | in TTY even | 15:32 |
| holstein | lsusb | 15:32 |
| attackulz | ok | 15:32 |
| attackulz | sweet | 15:32 |
| attackulz | whats some other usefull commands? ive only had ubuntu for like 3 months now | 15:32 |
| attackulz | just starting to get used to it after 15 years of windows | 15:32 |
| holstein | theres all kinds really | 15:33 |
| holstein | i use ping a lot | 15:33 |
| holstein | ping -c 4 google.com | 15:33 |
| attackulz | why bother ubuntu has a ping tool | 15:33 |
| attackulz | and thats the same comman | 15:33 |
| attackulz | almost if u were on windows | 15:33 |
| attackulz | ahaha | 15:33 |
| holstein | so on security... | 15:33 |
| holstein | i usually suggest folks do what makes them feel safe | 15:34 |
| holstein | there are some basic things about linux and OSX that make them more secure in a lot of ways | 15:34 |
| holstein | but no system is 100% safe | 15:35 |
| holstein | i say, do what makes you feel safe | 15:35 |
| holstein | and read | 15:35 |
| holstein | and ask questions | 15:35 |
| holstein | be cautious running commands as root | 15:36 |
| holstein | sudo whatever | 15:36 |
| attackulz | ok | 15:36 |
| attackulz | i Guess im not used to how nice the ubuntu community is | 15:36 |
| holstein | yeah, its a good communtiy | 15:36 |
| holstein | but still | 15:36 |
| holstein | if someone says 'run this command' | 15:36 |
| attackulz | normally with computer software and whatnot you ask questions. and you normally get assulted | 15:36 |
| holstein | you can google it first | 15:36 |
| holstein | and read | 15:36 |
| attackulz | or get called somthing childish like a noob | 15:36 |
| holstein | OR just ask | 15:36 |
| holstein | like | 15:37 |
| holstein | sudo fdisk -l | 15:37 |
| kevin6888 | hey everybody | 15:37 |
| holstein | i use that command a lot | 15:37 |
| attackulz | oh my god | 15:37 |
| attackulz | ubuntu i believe is going to run | 15:37 |
| kevin6888 | have you tried to sync up with your local ubuntu user group attackulz ? | 15:37 |
| holstein | kevin6888: good call :) | 15:37 |
| attackulz | explain... | 15:37 |
| holstein | http://loco.ubuntu.com/ | 15:37 |
| attackulz | ohh | 15:38 |
| kevin6888 | like, making friends with people local to you that use ubuntu | 15:38 |
| attackulz | hicktown, cananda. I dont even think most of the population own a computer in this area | 15:38 |
| holstein | youd be surprised | 15:38 |
| kevin6888 | attackulz: you might start off with your province. drop a pebble in a pond you get ripples | 15:39 |
| attackulz | one more question. is there any clients like MIRC for ubuntu? same style. or how easy is it to run mirc on wine | 15:39 |
| holstein | lots of them | 15:39 |
| holstein | i think xchat right kevin6888 ? | 15:40 |
| kevin6888 | attackulz: holstein: yeah, xchat | 15:40 |
| kevin6888 | attackulz: i'd investigate irssi if i were you. it's pretty awesome, it's terminal based. very reliable...robust, and efficient when you learn how to use it | 15:41 |
| holstein | if i ran a GUI chat, id use xchat | 15:41 |
| kevin6888 | in your spare time, attackulz | 15:41 |
| kevin6888 | holstein: same here | 15:41 |
| holstein | yeah, irssi + screen is a win | 15:41 |
| kevin6888 | +1 | 15:42 |
| charlie-tca | holstein: thanks for helping attackulz. I knew they could get more patience and help here than I had today. | 15:44 |
| holstein | charlie-tca: no worries | 15:45 |
| attackulz | sorry | 15:46 |
| attackulz | laptop died | 15:46 |
| attackulz | live cd worked | 15:46 |
| attackulz | showing connections | 15:46 |
| attackulz | so im now installing ubuntu | 15:46 |
| holstein | attackulz: interesting | 15:46 |
| attackulz | cuase it was running faster then xubuntu was | 15:46 |
| attackulz | even from the cd | 15:46 |
| holstein | attackulz: that might be the path of least resistance for you | 15:46 |
| attackulz | so lets hope she installs | 15:46 |
| attackulz | and runs smooth | 15:46 |
| holstein | though we should be able to make xubuntu use it | 15:47 |
| holstein | i need to look at xubuntu again | 15:47 |
| attackulz | id rahter use ubuntu if it runs good | 15:47 |
| holstein | attackulz: yeah, its what you got on the other box | 15:47 |
| holstein | might as well | 15:48 |
| attackulz | yep | 15:48 |
| attackulz | I thought the desktop could not handle it | 15:48 |
| attackulz | but apparently not | 15:48 |
| charlie-tca | Almost always easier to have the same on both, at least when starting to learn linux | 15:48 |
| attackulz | I just upgraded the ram last night so that may be why | 15:48 |
| holstein | yeah, that'll help | 15:48 |
| attackulz | thanks boys | 15:52 |
| kevin6888 | boys=guys girls=gals? | 15:54 |
| kevin6888 | "girls" are tricky | 15:54 |
| attackulz | well i know charlie and kevin are guys names | 15:54 |
| attackulz | dont know about holstein | 15:54 |
| * holstein is male too | 15:55 | |
| attackulz | if your a lady, then thank you ladies and gents | 15:55 |
| holstein | anytime attackulz :) | 15:55 |
| attackulz | you may see me time to time | 15:55 |
| charlie-tca | Glad you got something that works! | 15:55 |
| attackulz | but i generally keep IRC on | 15:55 |
| attackulz | yeah finally ahaha | 15:55 |
| kevin6888 | good things come to those who wait :) | 15:56 |
| attackulz | it is strange that it would not show up on xubuntu | 15:56 |
| attackulz | but would on ubuntu | 15:56 |
| attackulz | same kernals | 15:56 |
| attackulz | im confused | 15:56 |
| kevin6888 | strange=mysterious | 15:56 |
| charlie-tca | very. that bothers me a lot | 15:56 |
| holstein | yeah, odd | 15:56 |
| holstein | i was thinking maybe the network managers | 15:57 |
| charlie-tca | They are the same | 15:57 |
| holstein | thats what i was thinking... | 15:57 |
| holstein | and lsusb not showing it | 15:57 |
| charlie-tca | Xfce actually advises using Network-manager and network-manager-gnome | 15:57 |
| holstein | thats just odd | 15:58 |
| attackulz | haha | 15:59 |
| charlie-tca | I know. Networking should be the same in both Ubuntu and Xubuntu | 15:59 |
| attackulz | its installing twice as fast as xubuntu did | 15:59 |
| attackulz | I think my system does not like xubuntu | 15:59 |
| charlie-tca | Where did you download the xubuntu cd from? | 15:59 |
| attackulz | the site | 15:59 |
| attackulz | same place i downloaded ubuntu | 15:59 |
| charlie-tca | what is the http:??? | 16:00 |
| attackulz | oh did i forget to tell you guys its a IBM | 16:00 |
| attackulz | and i hear there can be errors with ubuntu on IBMS | 16:00 |
| attackulz | and i dont remember the http. it was a ways ago | 16:00 |
| kevin6888 | attackulz: get it from releases.ubuntu.com | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | We had issues with one of the mirrors screwing things up | 16:01 |
| kevin6888 | i haven't heard bad things about IBMs | 16:01 |
| charlie-tca | I wonder if the site was the mirror that had the image wrong | 16:02 |
| charlie-tca | IBM's are pretty good about working | 16:03 |
| holstein | still, with the same kernels | 16:03 |
| holstein | i would expect the hardware to be used the same | 16:03 |
| attackulz | when i load ubuntu or xubuntu on the computer it says | 16:04 |
| charlie-tca | One of the mirrors managed to mix two releases into one image. It made a lot of things fail | 16:04 |
| attackulz | warning IBM system detected. some blah blah blah blah blah blah may not be installed property | 16:04 |
| attackulz | then it says its going to stop | 16:04 |
| attackulz | and keeps going | 16:04 |
| holstein | charlie-tca: that seems likely | 16:04 |
| charlie-tca | attackulz: that sounds like a special mod to the bios or motherboard by IBM | 16:04 |
| holstein | lets go with bad image, until we need to get deeper into it :) | 16:04 |
| kevin6888 | attackulz: grab a notepad. write errors down so you can google them | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | Compaq used to do that to me, and wanted a special file to allow linux to be used. | 16:05 |
| charlie-tca | I always ignored it | 16:05 |
| kevin6888 | sounds shady | 16:06 |
| kevin6888 | programmers gotta' eat though | 16:07 |
| charlie-tca | It was back in the PII days, when the hardware was built for windows only | 16:07 |
| kevin6888 | competing with those bank executives for silicon | 16:07 |
| juzzy_ | hi. how might i restart gnome. its acting up a bit, and looking like, "olde gnome". ? | 17:12 |
| holstein | juzzy_: whats the problem? | 17:13 |
| holstein | you have 10.10 installed? | 17:14 |
| iceflatline | sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart | 17:14 |
| juzzy_ | gnome is looking like an old gnome, the dark grey has gone, and the theme is light grey | 17:15 |
| holstein | looks the same after restarting gdm? | 17:15 |
| juzzy_- | great thanks | 17:17 |
| juzzy_- | so whats the difference between gnome desktop and nautilus? | 17:17 |
| bioterror | nautilus is a file manager | 17:18 |
| yofel | iceflatline: that's deprecated btw. use sudo service gdm restart | 17:18 |
| coz_ | hey all | 17:19 |
| iceflatline | yofel: thanks. | 17:22 |
| ubuntunewb | hey guys im on a live cd because ive been having problems with grub2 | 18:13 |
| ubuntunewb | can anyone help me install grub2 to both partitions? | 18:13 |
| holstein | i would check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD | 18:15 |
| holstein | ubuntunewb: | 18:15 |
| ubuntunewb | giving me an error, "is dev mounted?" | 18:16 |
| holstein | i gotta run right now | 18:16 |
| ubuntunewb | laters | 18:16 |
| holstein | but, if you can pastebin the entire message | 18:17 |
| holstein | im sure you'll get some takers :) | 18:17 |
| holstein | good luck | 18:17 |
| juzzy_- | how can i check to see if im using video hardware acceleration, or software acceleration? | 18:17 |
| coz_ | juzzy_-, is compiz running? | 18:18 |
| coz_ | juzzy_-, do you have wobbly windows? | 18:18 |
| coz_ | oh nevermind | 18:18 |
| coz_ | I am not paying attention today :( | 18:18 |
| juzzy_- | compiz doesnt look to be on | 18:18 |
| coz_ | juzzy_-, ok in terminal type lspci | grep -i vga | 18:19 |
| coz_ | or copy paste that into terminal | 18:20 |
| ubuntunewb | do i need to edit my fstab for update-grub to work? Im in a liveCD | 18:21 |
| coz_ | juzzy_-, then paste the readout here | 18:22 |
| === ubuntunewb is now known as grubproblems | ||
| Laggg | !ping meganerd | 18:41 |
| ubot2 | Factoid 'ping meganerd' not found | 18:41 |
| Laggg | meganerd, you here? | 18:43 |
| kevin6888 | Laggg: try /ping meganerd | 18:44 |
| Laggg | that command doesnt do anything | 18:45 |
| Laggg | it worked for you, not for him | 18:45 |
| kevin6888 | Laggg: ah, you must be using empathy ? | 18:46 |
| Laggg | xchat | 18:47 |
| Laggg | kevin6888, maybe you can help me? Im on a fresh 10.10 install and os-prober and update-grub dont want to see my win7 HDD, what should I do? | 18:47 |
| kevin6888 | Laggg: /ping should work fine in xchat. you have to check the main server window though to see the results | 18:48 |
| kevin6888 | Laggg: there may be a wiki, i'll check | 18:48 |
| kevin6888 | Laggg: you'll probably want to patiently wait for someone that dual boots windows | 18:50 |
| Laggg | probably wait then :P | 18:51 |
| kevin6888 | Laggg: this may be helpful: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DualBootMigration | 18:51 |
| kevin6888 | it's good to poke at the wiki before doing a google search | 18:51 |
| kevin6888 | just do wiki.ubuntu.com/$probablefiletitle | 18:51 |
| Laggg | thanks kev | 18:56 |
| UbuntuN00b | need to split ubuntu over a small internal hard drive and a sd card whats the best way? | 19:28 |
| Omsniffiscent | Hey guys I've got a weird message on my start up screen and I'm not sure what it means can someone translate? https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/YV9sjaCVhQ7lK4pVruysbb4nKPHJZ0b_lu_28BuXo-8?feat=directlink | 19:30 |
| Omsniffiscent | it says "failed to allocate device" but I cut it off. It only displays for a half a second | 19:31 |
| UbuntuN00b | anybody have netbook remix with acer aspir i have a sd card question | 19:38 |
| bioterror | sowwy, I'm using Dell Latitude D420 ;) | 19:39 |
| kevin6888 | UbuntuN00b: perhaps manual partitions during install will give you the option of selecting two different hdd? | 19:39 |
| bioterror | 12" pure luv | 19:39 |
| UbuntuN00b | well atually im trying to figure out the best rooy | 19:39 |
| UbuntuN00b | as apparently with the acer aspire with ubuntu the one sdcard is an expansion slot | 19:40 |
| UbuntuN00b | which is suppose to add the cards space as a "pool" of data from my understanding | 19:40 |
| UbuntuN00b | but im wondering if its better to keep them seperate and have /root and /swap on the internal and /home on the sd card | 19:41 |
| kevin6888 | is the card listed in /dev UbuntuN00b ? | 19:41 |
| UbuntuN00b | i just killed all the partitions tarting from scratch | 19:41 |
| kevin6888 | in /dev it should be listed as a device i believe | 19:42 |
| UbuntuN00b | ok sec | 19:42 |
| UbuntuN00b | ./dev/mmcblko is the sd card | 19:43 |
| UbuntuN00b | ./dev/sda is the internal | 19:43 |
| UbuntuN00b | " On Linux versions this automatically expands the space of the SSD or HDD using aufs." | 19:45 |
| UbuntuN00b | thats what wiki says | 19:45 |
| UbuntuN00b | so im trying to figure out wether to let it do that...or forecefully seperate it | 19:45 |
| UbuntuN00b | as the read write speeds are different | 19:45 |
| UbuntuN00b | thats why it hink keeping /root and /swap on internal is better and /home on the sd card | 19:46 |
| UbuntuN00b | does that make sense to anybody elese? | 19:46 |
| UbuntuN00b | ? | 19:50 |
| kevin6888 | if you can put /home on sd card, that's what i would do | 19:50 |
| UbuntuN00b | ok thats what i will do | 19:50 |
| UbuntuN00b | hmmmm rebooted to a grub rescue prompt after install anyone want to help me out | 20:25 |
| UbuntuN00b | hmmmm rebooted to a grub rescue prompt after install anyone want to help me out | 20:30 |
| charlie-tca | Use the live cd to recover; | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | !grub | 20:31 |
| ubot2 | GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 20:31 |
| charlie-tca | It works for non-windows issues too | 20:31 |
| UbuntuN00b | alright ill see if i can work throught that | 20:32 |
| charlie-tca | UbuntuN00b: you could start here and try to restore grub, if it fails, go the the livecd part | 20:38 |
| charlie-tca | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Rescue%20Mode | 20:38 |
| UbuntuN00b | ok im just gonna try reinstalling it again me and grub don't get a long | 20:43 |
| UbuntuN00b | then if that doesn't work thn i will venture on to the grubing | 20:44 |
| charlie-tca | Okay. That's what I did, when it gave me that prompt, but most people don't want to hear "reinstall" | 20:51 |
| UbuntuN00b | looks like it worked this time | 21:27 |
| UbuntuN00b | i did the exact same thing weird | 21:27 |
| UbuntuN00b | yeah well im a windows guy this whole bootloader things is new to me | 21:27 |
| UbuntuN00b | plus i don't know the terminal commands | 21:27 |
| bioterror | !cli | UbuntuN00b | 21:30 |
| ubot2 | UbuntuN00b: The linux terminal or command-line interface is very powerful. Open a terminal via Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal (Gnome) or K-menu -> System -> Konsole (KDE). Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingTheTerminal or type in it: man intro | 21:30 |
| UbuntuN00b | yeah i know how to get to it hehe | 21:30 |
| UbuntuN00b | just not used to the commands and stuff | 21:30 |
| UbuntuN00b | but i will get on to it | 21:30 |
| UbuntuN00b | i'm just soft with all my windows gui ness | 21:30 |
| UbuntuN00b | hehe | 21:30 |
| UbuntuN00b | you stull up bio? | 21:32 |
| UbuntuN00b | you work nights? | 21:32 |
| bioterror | it's 23:33 | 21:32 |
| bioterror | sitting on sofa | 21:33 |
| bioterror | and listening music | 21:33 |
| UbuntuN00b | ahh its 13:32 here | 21:33 |
| UbuntuN00b | PT | 21:33 |
| bioterror | I fixed pxe boot into my home network | 21:34 |
| bioterror | or actually, it was working, but I did some directory fixing | 21:34 |
| Laggg | I keep getting this error: /usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Sector 32 is already in use by FlexNet; avoiding it. This software may cause boot or other problems in future. Please ask its authors not to store data in the boot track.. | 22:16 |
| holstein | Laggg: check out https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 | 22:17 |
| holstein | and let me look up what flexnet is | 22:17 |
| Laggg | ivechecked that out so many times | 22:17 |
| Laggg | the solution isnt there | 22:17 |
| holstein | i bet this is relevant | 22:18 |
| holstein | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1620377 | 22:18 |
| holstein | is that you? | 22:18 |
| Laggg | nope | 22:18 |
| Laggg | im Laggg on there | 22:18 |
| Laggg | i have two different HDDs as well | 22:19 |
| Laggg | one w/ 10.10 and one w/ win7 | 22:19 |
| holstein | ive heard about this before | 22:19 |
| holstein | Using the Live CD I restored the grub2 cfg boot sector file. After restoration, Terminal reported flexnet files in the boot sector. I then removed all proprietary HP apps in the XP install. After this and another round of Grub2 restoration the system is working fine. | 22:19 |
| Laggg | "After restoration, Terminal reported flexnet files in the boot sector. I then removed all proprietary HP apps in the XP install." | 22:19 |
| holstein | right | 22:19 |
| Laggg | i dont have HP apps | 22:19 |
| Laggg | this is a homebuilt pc | 22:20 |
| holstein | well, you got something that installed flexnet | 22:20 |
| holstein | anyways | 22:20 |
| Laggg | it would help if I knew what to take out of the bootsector or w/e | 22:20 |
| holstein | 2 other options | 22:20 |
| holstein | putting grub on the linux hard drive | 22:20 |
| holstein | and selecting it at boot time | 22:20 |
| Laggg | holstein: i just got linked this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254 | 22:20 |
| holstein | *assuming thats the way you have it setup | 22:21 |
| holstein | or another boot manager | 22:21 |
| holstein | maybe GAG | 22:21 |
| holstein | http://gag.sourceforge.net/ | 22:21 |
| Laggg | how do install grub2 to the ubuntu drive? I think I already did tht | 22:22 |
| bioterror | !grub2 | Laggg | 22:22 |
| holstein | you use that other link | 22:22 |
| ubot2 | Laggg: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10) | 22:22 |
| Laggg | bioterror: STFU before posting that | 22:22 |
| holstein | and use the instructions for recovering using a live CD | 22:22 |
| holstein | Laggg: ? | 22:22 |
| Laggg | that fucking page doesnt help me bioterror | 22:23 |
| Laggg | ive been linked it 1100110101018403r5784907503470 times | 22:23 |
| holstein | Laggg: please | 22:23 |
| holstein | this is a volunteer group | 22:23 |
| holstein | and that is exactly what you need | 22:23 |
| Laggg | everyone just throws that same page at me and ive been over it a hundred time | 22:23 |
| Laggg | this error isnt even described in that page | 22:23 |
| holstein | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Reinstalling from LiveCD | 22:23 |
| holstein | you use a live CD | 22:24 |
| Laggg | ive done that already too | 22:24 |
| holstein | right | 22:24 |
| holstein | SO | 22:24 |
| holstein | you re-confirm that you have grub installed | 22:24 |
| holstein | on the linux drive | 22:24 |
| holstein | and then | 22:24 |
| holstein | in the bios | 22:24 |
| holstein | you tell the machine to boot using it | 22:24 |
| holstein | OR | 22:24 |
| holstein | you can unplug the other drive for a moment to check | 22:24 |
| holstein | Laggg: i realize you are frustrated | 22:25 |
| Laggg | everytime i boot from the ubuntu drive it sticks me right into ubuntu | 22:25 |
| Laggg | no grub screen | 22:25 |
| holstein | Laggg: right | 22:25 |
| Laggg | holding SHIFT takes me to the grub screen and allows me to load 10.10 | 22:25 |
| holstein | that is the normal behavior | 22:25 |
| holstein | you can hit shift like that | 22:25 |
| holstein | OR | 22:25 |
| Laggg | but when windows is selected, it said "invalid signature" | 22:25 |
| holstein | you can edit grub | 22:26 |
| holstein | Laggg: you wont need it to boot windows | 22:26 |
| holstein | in this scenario | 22:26 |
| holstein | you can use fixmbr or whatever that is over there | 22:26 |
| holstein | and have seperate drives | 22:26 |
| holstein | with seperate boot loaders | 22:27 |
| Laggg | but then i have to switch my BIOS everytime I want to choose the other? | 22:27 |
| holstein | depends | 22:27 |
| Laggg | thats how I have it right now, win7 has MBR and 10.10 has grub2 | 22:27 |
| Laggg | and i have to change them from the bios | 22:27 |
| holstein | OK | 22:28 |
| holstein | so thats good | 22:28 |
| holstein | at least you can boot them | 22:28 |
| Laggg | i dont want that, i want my grub screen with win7 / 10.10 / memtest | 22:28 |
| holstein | i would really look at that win install | 22:28 |
| Laggg | this is what im reading now: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1661254 | 22:28 |
| holstein | and you can try GAG live | 22:28 |
| joshnewbie | so major question, i know this is TERRIBLE but i want to grant a user full root access without them having to use sudo all the time. i have tried editing the sudoers file but alas, it doesn't seem to work | 22:33 |
| bioterror | left quickly | 22:37 |
| bioterror | Laggg, did that dd command fix it? | 22:40 |
| Laggg | the dd command zeroed out the sectors | 22:40 |
| Laggg | i ran update-grub and its not seeing windows, still | 22:40 |
| Laggg | i may have to boot from the win7 cd and fix the MBR again | 22:41 |
| bioterror | os-prober? | 22:41 |
| Laggg | returns nothing | 22:41 |
| bioterror | or do you have windows in your grub? | 22:41 |
| Laggg | only because I added it manually | 22:41 |
| bioterror | I assume you have it | 22:41 |
| Laggg | but when i select it it said 'invalid signature' | 22:41 |
| Laggg | but I CAN boot into win7 | 22:42 |
| Laggg | i just have to change the HDD boot priority | 22:42 |
| Laggg | bypassing ubuntu, grub and my whole seperate Ubuntu HDD | 22:42 |
| Laggg | so hah! | 22:44 |
| joshnewbie | can anyone help me grant root permissions to my users without them having to user sudo | 22:45 |
| joshnewbie | i know this is unsafe | 22:45 |
| bioterror | joshnewbie, no | 22:45 |
| bioterror | joshnewbie, that's not how *nixes work | 22:45 |
| joshnewbie | i tried editing sudoers | 22:45 |
| bioterror | there's root and then there's users | 22:45 |
| joshnewbie | so they ALWAYS have to use the sudo command? | 22:46 |
| bioterror | unless you're root | 22:46 |
| joshnewbie | well, i am both root and josh | 22:46 |
| bioterror | what's wrong with the sudo? | 22:46 |
| joshnewbie | but i am installing a bunch of mysql biology stuff | 22:46 |
| joshnewbie | it would just be so so SO very much easier to not have to use sudo | 22:47 |
| bioterror | say | 22:47 |
| bioterror | sudo su | 22:47 |
| bioterror | :D | 22:47 |
| joshnewbie | thanks | 22:48 |
| joshnewbie | success! | 22:48 |
| joshnewbie | wait | 22:48 |
| joshnewbie | is this gonna then install the programs in the root/bin instead of josh/bin? | 22:48 |
| bioterror | what | 22:49 |
| bioterror | should go under /usr/bin/ | 22:49 |
| joshnewbie | so does this change the presumed environmental paths for normal installation? | 22:49 |
| joshnewbie | whew | 22:49 |
| joshnewbie | just checking | 22:49 |
| bioterror | if you're using apt-get or dpkg | 22:49 |
| joshnewbie | hmm, no this is much more homebrew packages | 22:50 |
| joshnewbie | it is for reading whole genomes | 22:50 |
| joshnewbie | not too mainstream | 22:50 |
| bioterror | are you compiling from sources? | 22:51 |
| joshnewbie | perl packages and then it downloads some special stuff from cpan | 22:52 |
| JPC68147 | where to start? | 23:49 |
| bioterror | from the beginning | 23:49 |
| JPC68147 | ubuntu tweak isn't giving me the options that various pages I have found show | 23:49 |
| JPC68147 | in particular the ability to modify my login screen | 23:49 |
| bioterror | hA | 23:49 |
| bioterror | gdm is crippled nowdays | 23:50 |
| bioterror | I dunno why gdm themes was removed | 23:50 |
| JPC68147 | ah, so I am reading old info then | 23:50 |
| bioterror | but I'm off to bed | 23:50 |
| bioterror | it's 2am ;) | 23:50 |
| JPC68147 | np, thnx | 23:50 |
| bioterror | someone who uses vanilla buntu might know more about it | 23:50 |
| JPC68147 | gnite | 23:50 |
| JPC68147 | so can you modify your login page in Ubuntu 10.10? | 23:51 |
| JPC68147 | I don't like the colors (too dark) and the people selector looks very generic, almost eastern european to me | 23:52 |
| JPC68147 | and speaking of dark, anyone got any suggestion as how to get the machine to remember my display calibration settings | 23:53 |
| JPC68147 | the save button doesn't activate and every time I log off I have to set it again | 23:54 |
| JPC68147 | anyone recommend a site that answers a lot of these questions in english? | 23:56 |
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