[01:46] <yofel> is there a way to extend https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev/MultipleISOBootUSBKey for alternate images or is this way only possible with the desktop images?
[03:55] <quentusrex> Anyone here know how to get more detailed application profiling info? I have an application that runs 4x faster on CentOS Intel boxes as it does on an Ubuntu 10.10 AMD box(with more cores, and faster speed). 
[04:08] <nelhage> I'm trying to build a 2.6.39-rc2 kernel using make-kpkg and the config extracted from a mainline PPA kernel. The mainline PPA kernel boots, but mine doesn't. Is there anything obvious I might be doing wrong?
[04:10] <nelhage> My command line is: make-kpkg --rootcmd fakeroot --append-to-version nelhage2 --us --uc --initrd --bzimage kernel_image
[04:38] <aakshay> jjohansen, hi.. i am done with scull driver thoroughly now how can i start contributing the community? do i need to first study more? please suggest.. thanks
[04:50] <jjohansen> aakshay: which community?  aakshay are you more interested in anything kernel or ubuntu kernel
[04:50] <jjohansen> anything kernel -> http://kernelnewbies.org/
[04:50] <aakshay> jjohansen, yes.. i am intrested in ubuntu kernel development. :p
[04:51] <jjohansen> aakshay: ubuntu kernel, the place to jump in is kernel bugs
[04:51] <aakshay> jjohansen, ok... what bugs can i start with?  
[04:52] <jjohansen> aakshay: there is bug triaging and then there is taking any of the bugs associated with the linux package and working on it
[04:52] <aakshay> i have seen the list of bugs but was not able to select one. can u please help me choosing one for a begineer? :)
[04:52] <jjohansen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/BugDay 
[04:52] <jjohansen> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/BugTriage/Process 
[04:52] <jjohansen> http://voices.canonical.com/kernelteam/?p=6208 
[04:52] <jjohansen> those are triage links but bugs can be found in them readily enough
[04:53] <jjohansen> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/jfo/kernel-buglist-by-team.html 
[04:54] <jjohansen> that is the hot bug list
[04:54] <aakshay> jjohansen, thankyou  so much but i am done with triaging.. i want to enter into the bug correction.. 
[04:54] <aakshay> so which bug can i start with?.. :p
[04:55] <jjohansen> aakshay: triage links don't need to be used for just triaging there are a lot of bugs in there
[04:55] <jjohansen> aakshay: anything that grabs your interest and isn't assigned
[04:55] <aakshay> jjohansen, ok... :).. 
[04:55] <jjohansen> well you could work on some of the assigned ones too ;)
[04:55] <aakshay> ;)
[04:56] <aakshay> then i visiting the links and will try to find one bug for me... :p
[04:56] <aakshay> jjohansen, thanks a lot.. :)
[04:56] <jjohansen> aakshay: np
[04:57] <aakshay> jjohansen, and what to do if i would like to enter into the driver development or kernel development?.. 
[04:58] <jjohansen> aakshay: that is more upstream kernel work, identify an area your interested in
[04:58] <jjohansen> say its filesystems and maybe btrfs in particular
[04:59] <jjohansen> join the fs-devel mailing list and the btrfs mailing list, go to their wiki (if the project has one (btrfs does))
[04:59] <jjohansen> start by following along, and maybe picking out a bug or something to work on
[04:59] <jjohansen> submit patches, get feedback, rinse and repeat
[05:00] <aakshay> jjohansen, ok.. sorry but how to join the mailing lists? 
[05:00] <jjohansen> you do it enough you become part of the project community and as you get more involved you know more what needs done
[05:00] <jjohansen> aakshay: it will depend on the project
[05:01] <jjohansen> a good place to start is http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/
[05:01] <jjohansen> http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html
[05:01] <aakshay> jjohansen, woow!!! it sounds more fun now....  
[05:01] <jjohansen> that isn't every project but its a good start
[05:02] <aakshay> i am starting  with the links... 
[05:02] <aakshay> jjohansen, thanks for guidance.. :)
[06:24]  * apw yawns
[06:25]  * RAOF fills apw's gaping mouth with bees.
[06:25] <apw> woh, harsh
[06:26] <RAOF> No, they're stingless bees.
[06:26] <RAOF> Native Australian bees.
[06:26] <RAOF> They make for a very nice gargle.
[06:26] <apw> harsh for the bees
[06:27] <apw> gargling with bees, thats an unusual game and no mistake
[06:30] <RAOF> They're deliciously tickly.
[08:09] <apw> smb`, hey ... whats the status of the fix for bug #539467
[08:09] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 539467 in linux "SATA link power management causes disk errors and corruption" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/539467
[08:11] <smb> apw, morning
[08:12] <apw> morning :)
[08:12] <smb> apw, I think there was some blacklist fix going somewhere for one specific nvidia chipset
[08:12] <smb> but I have not checked about that upstream
[08:13] <smb> or I cannot remember to have
[08:13] <smb> And any other affected controllers would need to extend that blacklist if it is there...
[08:15] <smb> apw, ... in theory "libata: Implement ATA_FLAG_NO_DIPM and apply it to mcp65"
[08:16] <apw> it doesn't seem to be in mainline then so far sm
[08:16] <apw> smb
[08:16] <smb> Guess then I need to ask, it went to Jeff Garzik+linux-ide
[08:21] <smb> apw, I put you on cc
[08:24] <jk-> smb & apw: I've implemented 'patch update notifications' on patchwork.ozlabs.org
[08:24] <jk-> so the sender gets notified when the patch state changes
[08:24] <jk-> want me to enable this on ubuntu-kernel?
[08:25] <jk-> s/ubuntu-kernel/kernel-team/
[08:25] <apw> i don't know how closly the stable team is tracking patchworks at the moment
[08:25] <smb> Honestly I am not sure how much in use patchworks is anymore
[08:26] <smb> apw, Stop saying my thoughs before me. :-P
[08:26] <jk-> heh
[08:26] <jk-> yeah, there's a bit of a backlog there
[08:27] <apw> i think the lack of per release info has been a major blocker on it
[08:27]  * jk- ponders
[08:36] <apw> smb how is bug #634487
[08:36] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 634487 in linux "t1.micro instance hangs when installing java" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/634487
[08:40] <smb> apw, Well I was not able to reproduce it with CentOS 5.5 + Xen (3.0.3 and 3.4.3) locally. So it really looks to me like something that is hidden in their host environment. Did not get much feedback to my findings though, so I have not followed up
[08:47] <apw> ok thanks
[09:28] <bj0_> aufs not work in .37?
[09:35] <eagles0513875_> hey gusy not sure if you can help me but every time i try to connect to my wpa2 wifi connection natty kernel panics. my wifi card is an atheros card
[09:52] <eagles0513875_> gnomefreak: do you kn ow how i can file a feature freeze exception to get the kernel patched asap on natty
[09:56] <gnomefreak> dorry i ner not
[09:56] <eagles0513875_> ok :( this is an urgent fix that need to be included
[10:02] <gnomefreak> damn my typing suck today. im not good with gum_carlies
[10:05] <gnomefreak> just for the record all day yesterday i was unable too boot using 2.6.38-8-generic-pae it kept restarting and/or freezing up. ill be back another smoke would be great.
[10:05] <eagles0513875_> and im having kernel panic issues which i have a fix for
[10:05] <eagles0513875_> but nto sure who to talk to
[10:08] <smb> eagles0513875_, If you got a fix and a bug report going with it I would write an email to kernel-team@lists.ubuntu.com pointing to those. There should be no need for ffe unless your fix is a whole new feature
[10:09] <eagles0513875_> no its a patch to the current kernel in natty
[10:09] <eagles0513875_> thanks smb  :) thats exactly the info i needed
[10:09] <eagles0513875_> will do that when i get home
[10:09] <smb> that should be ok then. more a question is seeing trees in the forest :)
[10:10] <apw> yep, we will need a bug filed if there isn't one, and get the patch out.  make sure it says where the patch came from, or is properly signed off if it is new
[10:10] <eagles0513875_> i have the link of the patch as well :) 
[10:10] <eagles0513875_> courtesy of some kind people from upstream and the kernel channel :) 
[10:12] <apw> all the provenance information including the link is great
[10:14] <eagles0513875_> apw: ya its imho for those with atheros cards a big show stopper for natty
[10:17] <bj0_> is there a way to enable aufs support in .36 or .37 kernels w/out recompiling the kernel?
[10:35] <apw> bj0_, in the mainline kernels ?  aufs is not in those kernels
[10:38] <bj0_> apw: are the mainline kernels different than what ships with the releases?
[10:38] <apw> yes, they are mainline kernel sources without any ubuntu patches
[10:38] <apw> aufs is an out of tree driver, and included as part of the ubuntu delta, and therefore not in mainline kerenels
[10:38] <bj0_> ah
[10:39] <bj0_> do you know if it will be in the 11.04 release?
[10:41] <apw> bj0_, aufs2?  yes it is included in the natty kernels, needed for the CDs
[10:43] <bj0_> cool
[14:02] <ogasawara> apw: I got ya covered for the meeting
[14:34] <fairuz> Hi, I got "Suspending console(s) (no_console_suspend to debug" . How to disable the console suspend? I tried to add no_console_suspend to the bootatgs but no luck.
[14:52] <herton> fairuz: how do you added no_console_suspend, eg. did you edited /etc/default/grub, added no_console_suspend to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT, and run update-grub2?
[14:54] <JFo> apw / ogasawara let me know when you'd like to go over those bugs that Pete mentioned
[14:55] <ogasawara> JFo: gimme 10min, I'm documenting it in the wiki for the release manager tasks
[14:55] <JFo> ok, I thought you might be :-)
[14:56] <ogasawara> JFo: apw might be out and about for a while.  you and I can at least get a jump on the list and anything we have questions on we can craft an email.
[14:57] <JFo> sounds good
[15:05] <ogasawara> JFo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+source/linux/+bugs
[15:21] <MrBeanAC> hi guys
[15:22] <gondoi> apw: I finally got a bug report created: #761809
[15:22] <MrBeanAC> I habe a question: I installed the maverick backported kernel within Lucid Server. But I cannot find the corresponding linux-source-2.6.35 package... any idea?
[15:23] <MrBeanAC> I also checked the mainline folders... a lot of versions do not include the source package... why?
[15:24] <MrBeanAC> module-assistant i.e. needs that package
[16:11] <JFo> brb
[16:21] <JFo> back now
[16:21] <ogasawara> JFo: almost done with my part in the release meeting, will ping you when I'm ready to resume going over the list
[16:21] <JFo> cool :)
[16:33] <ogasawara> JFo: ready?
[16:33] <JFo> I am indeed
[16:33] <JFo> :)
[16:50] <sconklin> tgardner: you made a commit to the maverick meta "Add compat-wireless-2.6.38 meta package", should that also be made to the ports metapackage?
[16:50] <tgardner> sconklin, I think LBM is only built for i386/amd64
[16:51] <tgardner> for Maverick. lemme check for sure
[16:52] <tgardner> sconklin, yep, thats the case.
[16:52] <sconklin> tgardner: ok, thanks. Turning the crank.
[16:55] <sconklin> severe weather here - if I drop that's why
[17:02] <JFo> <-grabbing lunch, back soon
[17:45] <bjf> JFo: you might be interested in: http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/1-day-new.html  http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/7-day-new.html   http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/30-day-new.html
[18:15] <JFo> bjf, I am indeed
[18:16] <JFo> oh, and bjf, on the not seeing mail from bugs, I hadn't noticed, but I will have a look to see if I am seeing the same
[18:24] <JFo> that 1-day-new report will come in really handy
[18:36]  * tgardner --> lunch
[19:30] <smoser> will a rebase to 2.6.38.3 (upstream stable) be done before release ?
[19:32] <tgardner> smoser, no more rebasing, but 2.6.38.3 is already applied to master-next
[19:32] <smoser> master-next ?
[19:32] <smoser> for -updates ?
[19:32] <smoser> sorry for not understanding what that means
[19:32] <tgardner> smoser, its the working branch, but typically includes the next stuff to be uplaoded.
[19:33] <smoser> so "no more rebasing". did that mean "this will not make natty release"?
[19:33] <ogasawara> I believe apw is planning to do one last upload on monday which will include the 2.6.38.3 patch set
[19:33] <tgardner> smoser, I doubt if this will get uploaded before final release.
[19:34] <tgardner> um, I sit corrected.
[19:34] <smoser> :)
[19:34] <smoser> so the end result is that i would expect bug 662288  to be fixed
[19:34] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 662288 in linux "rt3090: freeze on module rt2800pci unload" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/662288
[19:34] <smoser> as the opener says its fix is in 2.6.38.3
[19:35] <ogasawara> we can probably add the bug number to the changelog so it'll get closed automatically
[19:36] <smoser> would it be appropriate to mark it "fix-commited" then ?
[19:36] <smoser> i'll eleave that to you.
[19:38] <ogasawara> smoser: lemme just double check the commit is actually applied to master-next.  I'll fix up the bug status accordingly.
[19:38] <smoser> thank you.
[19:44] <ogasawara> tgardner: I'm gonna update master-next to shove the buglink in the commit message for 662288 so it get's closed by the janitor when we upload
[19:45] <tgardner> ogasawara, ack
[20:55]  * jjohansen -> lunch
[21:04] <quentusrex> Is there any way to specify the kernel CONFIG_HZ option from the boot line?
[21:06] <sforshee> quentusrex, no, afraid not
[21:06] <quentusrex> Is there a tutorial for how to rebuild the stock server kernel and change only this option?
[21:10] <quentusrex> sforshee, I see tutorials on how to build the latest git repo, but I'm looking to just build the exact kernel package, but with one config change.
[21:10] <sforshee> quentusrex, not that I know of. The closest things I know of are the KernelMaintenance and Maintenance/Advanced pages at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Dev
[21:10] <sforshee> you'd have to edit the server flavor config file and edit it there I believe
[21:11] <quentusrex> Thanks. I'm trying to track down a massive performance difference between Intel and AMD hardware, as well as a performance drop from CentOS 5.2 to Ubuntu 10.10
[21:12] <quentusrex> to the order of 4x as fast on Intel hardware, compared to AMD. And centos is about 2x as fast. 
[21:14] <quentusrex> sforshee, But I'm aware that the issue is probably in the software itself, but I'm trying to track down what in the software is causing the issues.
[22:13] <GrueMaster> What is the best way to get notified of sru kernel updates for armel?  I have yet to be notified of an available kernel until just before it gets deleted.
[22:59] <hallyn> hey, what is the easiest way to install a maverick kernel on natty?
[22:59] <hallyn> dpkg -i doesn't work on the stock package.  don't particularly want to compile my own, though that's starting to look easiest
[23:06] <herton> hallyn: any error on dpkg -i? I think it should work, but I didn't tried, I remember a lucid kernel I installed for some tests on natty worked
[23:07] <hallyn> herton: well, it just said
[23:07] <hallyn> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-image:
[23:07] <hallyn>  linux-image depends on linux-image-generic (= 2.6.35.28.36); however:
[23:07] <hallyn> but apt-get install -f didn't help
[23:07] <hallyn> i suppose i should just extract the contents
[23:07] <hallyn> d'oh
[23:07] <herton> hallyn: what's the deb file, is it the meta package or the linux-image...?
[23:07] <hallyn> heh, the .deb i grabbed doesn't have te actual kernel anyway :)
[23:08] <hallyn> yeah it's the meta package
[23:08] <hallyn> sorry about that
[23:08] <herton> ah ok, np :)