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pittiskaet: will we even have a release meeting today?15:58
kenvandinepitti!15:58
pittihey kenvandine15:59
skaetpitti, yup,  planning on it15:59
kenvandineyou made it :)15:59
kenvandinepitti, still on the train?15:59
pittiI'll need to change trains in about 30 mins, so I might miss our desktop part15:59
pittikenvandine: yes, all day; 6 hours there, now 6 hours back15:59
kenvandinepitti, whew... long day :/15:59
pittikenvandine: but the desktop report should be reasonably current15:59
skaetpitti,  ouch.15:59
Davieyo/15:59
kenvandinepitti, thx for updating it16:00
pittibut worth it -- we have a really nice flat now!16:00
kenvandinepitti, congrats :)16:00
skaetgreat!16:00
skaethmm about time,  so lets start..16:00
davmor2pitti: yeah but a 12 hour commute to work ;)16:00
skaet#startmeeting16:01
MootBotMeeting started at 10:01. The chair is skaet.16:01
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skaet[Topic] Natty overview - skaet_16:01
skaetReminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.   If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait.16:01
MootBotNew Topic:  Natty overview - skaet_16:01
skaet.16:01
skaetAgenda is at:16:01
skaet[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-04-1516:01
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-04-1516:01
skaet.16:01
skaetMilestoned bugs for 11.04 release can be found:16:01
skaet https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=3356916:01
skaetmilestoned bugs from 11.04 beta 2 are in the process of being assessed16:01
skaetand either transfered to 11.04,  or deferred to Oneiric.16:01
skaet.16:01
skaetIts unlikely all will get fixed.   Help is requested of leads to please scrub through the list, and move all those not able to fix to  either:  natty-updates,  or open a separate task against oneiric, and mark the ones against natty as won't fix, if they're not candidates for updates.16:01
skaet.16:01
skaetBugs targetted for this release can be found:16:01
skaet[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs16:01
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs16:01
skaet.16:01
skaetUpcoming Natty Significant Dates:16:02
skaet- LanguagePackTranslationDeadline 4/20 (1200 UTC)16:02
skaet- Last bug fix 4/21 (0900 UTC)- hard freeze16:02
skaet- Release Image Builds 4/2116:02
skaet- Unseeded Universe/Multiverse Final Freeze - 4/26 (1200 UTC)16:02
skaet- "Release!! - 11.04 Release Date: April 28, 201116:02
skaet.16:02
skaetEOL's approaching:16:02
skaet- Karmic (9.10) - EOL on 4/3016:02
skaet- Hardy Desktop (8.04) - EOL on 5/1216:02
skaet- Dapper Drake (6.06 ) - EOL on 6/116:02
skaetand wanted to say a big thank you to everyone for helping to get beta 2 out the door yesterday!16:03
skaetany questions about the upcoming dates?16:03
skaet..16:03
* jdstrand is very pleased with those dates :)16:03
jdstrandthe EOLs in particular :P16:04
skaet:)16:04
* skaet figured it was the EOLs.16:04
skaet:)16:04
* jdstrand nods16:04
skaetok,  if nothing else,  lets move on to round tables.16:04
skaet[Topic] QA team update -  jibel16:04
MootBotNew Topic:  QA team update -  jibel16:04
jibelhi all o/16:05
skaet:)16:05
jibelNatty Work Items16:05
jibelhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa16:05
jibelWe are now able to run EUC fine on Beta 2. hggdh is investigating the failures.16:05
jibelQA Dashboard16:05
jibelhttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html16:06
jibellinux, unity, software-center are in both last day and last 7 days top 516:06
MootBotLINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html16:06
jibelAutomatic Upgrade Testing mostly green (white actually)16:06
jibelhttp://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/16:06
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/16:06
jibelBeta 2 Testing results:16:06
jibel540 results reported (+20.3% increase compared to Beta 1)16:06
jibel* Image Coverage : 100.00% (78/78)16:06
jibel* Mandatory Test Cases : 95.74% (225/235)16:07
jibel* Run Once Test Cases : 95.45% (42/44)16:07
jibel* Overall : 95.70% (267/279)16:07
jibel88 (+8.64%) bugs have been reported affecting a total of 66 test cases.16:07
jibelAmongst which 7 with a critical importance (7 closed) and 55 with high importance (26 closed)16:07
jibel26 Tests failed (-35 compared to Beta 1).16:07
jibelThis makes a failure rate of 9.74% (26/267) (-12.52% compared to Beta 1)16:07
jibelThis can be interpreted as more bugs found, in line with the increased participation, but less release critical bugs (less test failures)16:07
jibel..16:07
skaetThanks jibel!16:07
skaetgood to see the statistics bearing out the impressions it felt much more solid than beta 116:08
skaetwhat is the autotesting of the desktop looking like?16:09
skaet(true failures, as opposed to test failures)16:09
skaets/test/test infrastructure/16:09
mvoyeah, the autoupgradetester is really happy16:09
mvoplus it got more diskspace and so more tests16:09
skaet:)16:09
jibelpatrickmw has been reviewing the failures and filed bugs against mago, now we need to fix the tests.16:09
jibelno new failures on the applications16:10
skaetthanks,  positive trend continues there too then.   cool.  :)16:10
skaetanyone else have questions for jibel?16:10
dbartho/16:10
skaetdbarth,  go ahead16:10
dbarthbootcharts results or anything indicating that there is a performance problem at startup with unity?16:11
dbarthdo you have ...16:11
dbarth(sorry, can' type today)16:11
jibeldbarth, bootchart are measuring the boot time, from the feedback on the forums, blogs, ... the complaint is about the time for the desktop to come up after login16:12
jibelI'll see with bdmurray if we have something16:12
dbarthright, ok, so we're tracking that feedback as well16:12
dbarthok thanks16:12
seb128jibel: the charts do grub to desktop loaded16:12
* skaet looks around for anyone else?16:13
jibeloh ok, I'll check what we have and we'll come back to you16:13
skaetThanks again jibel,  and thanks to all the folks who helped with the testing over the last week!  excellent coverage,  :)16:14
skaet[Topic] Hardware Certification team update - victorp16:14
MootBotNew Topic:  Hardware Certification team update - victorp16:14
victorpo/16:14
skaet:)16:14
victorpThis week we continued testing, using the complete certification test16:14
victorpsuite, the systems that we have scheduled to certify for 11.04.16:14
victorpThe results of the testing can be found at:16:14
victorp[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/natty-testing/natty_beta1.html16:14
victorpThere are some systems that appear in the report as "Not Tested", were16:14
victorpactually tested, but are failing to report back to the certification16:14
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/natty-testing/natty_beta1.html16:14
victorpwebsite. This has been identified as a bug in our infrastructure and we16:14
victorphave given it the highest priority to have it fixed prior to16:14
victorpcertification testing for 11.04.16:14
victorpThe bugs found during this testing have been filed against the16:14
victorpcorresponding package with the tag of blocks-hwcert:16:14
victorp[LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=blocks-hwcert16:15
MootBotLINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=blocks-hwcert16:15
victorpWe are escalating the bugs to the corresponding teams to try to have16:15
victorpthem fixed for Natty before release, on in an early SRU.16:15
skaet..?16:16
* skaet wondering if victorp is done or having a communication glitch...16:17
victorpnot here still16:17
victorp:)16:17
victorpjust to let you know that we are done with beta116:17
victorptesting and we are now retesting fixes and so on16:18
victorp..16:18
skaetthanks victorp!16:18
skaetlooks like of the high blocks-hwcert all but one unity are linux.16:18
skaetlinux kernel has frozen right now16:19
skaetdo you consider any of the blocks-hwcert to be kitten killers?16:19
ogasawaraskaet: JFo and I have been reviewing them this morning, and getting nomination/milestone reset accordingly16:19
skaetogasawara, excellent.  :)16:19
ogasawaraskaet: I didn't see any kittne killers from my point of view16:19
victorpthey are all sruable16:19
skaetvictorp, ogasawara,   good to hear.   thanks!16:20
skaetany other questions for victorp?16:20
skaet[Topic] Security team update - jdstrand16:20
MootBotNew Topic:  Security team update - jdstrand16:20
jdstrandhi!16:21
skaet:)16:21
jdstrand[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:21
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jdstrand[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html16:21
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jdstrandAs stated in previous meetings, even though we are now above the trend line now, all work items tied to the release process are completed. We are fixing natty bugs here and there as we are made aware of them.16:21
jdstrandAs usual, the team has been focusing primarily on stable release updates as well as security updates in the development release.16:21
jdstrandI noticed bug #663294 was still on our list for the agenda, but it's fixed now (so I removed it just now). (thanks doko)16:21
ubottuLaunchpad bug 663294 in firefox (Ubuntu Natty) "Firefox built with gcc-4.5 is a non-starter on i386 with -pie" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/66329416:21
jdstrandWe will likely do another apparmor upload to address a few profiling bugs that came in. They are not high priority but have a very low chance of regression and it would be nice to have them in natty before release.16:22
jdstrand..16:22
skaetthanks jdstrand!16:22
jdstrandsure! :)16:22
skaet(and thanks for catching that fixed bug in the agenda)16:22
skaetany security updates on the horizon for the next week that might interact with natty release?16:23
jdstrandno. there may be a 0-day update for firefox, but we won't try to shove that into natty (upstream currently scheduled it for week of release)16:24
jdstrandshove into natty before release that is16:24
jdstrandnatty-security, you bet! :)16:24
skaetthanks!16:24
cjwatson663294> I didn't get the sense that the bug list on the agenda had been updated at all this week16:24
jdstrandcjwatson: I think it was fixed the week prior16:25
cjwatsonI did fairly extensive work on ours, but probably didn't catch most new bugs16:25
jdstranda binutils update fixed it16:25
jdstrandwell, the underlyign issue, and then firefox re-enabled -pie16:25
jdstrandcjwatson: oh, I totally misread your comment16:26
skaetcjwatson,  yeah am still needing to filter in the new ones,  am waiting for the bug scrub that's happening today,  and will be taking a pass as soon as I hear they're done at adding.16:26
jdstrandthat was the only bug I personally noticed16:27
skaetI'll make a special version available with the date, after the new ones have gotten added properly.16:28
cjwatsonthanks16:28
skaetany other questions for jdstrand?16:28
skaet[Topic] Kernel team update - ogasawara  (or apw?)16:28
MootBotNew Topic:  Kernel team update - ogasawara  (or apw?)16:28
ogasawaraOverall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for the release milestone is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:16:29
ogasawara[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:29
ogasawara[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html16:29
ogasawara[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg16:29
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:29
MootBotLINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html16:29
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ogasawaraWe have very few specific work items in the ubuntu-11.04-beta-2 milestone, mostly non-release related.  These have now all been dispositioned either postponed or pushed to the release, no remaining task is release criticial.  The natty kernel is now at v2.6.38-8.42, this represents v2.6.38.2 mainline stable release, brining a number of bug fixes since the v2.6.38 final.  We already have a few bug fixes pending and v2.6.316:29
ogasawara8.3 has now released and so we are planning on doing one more upload likely monday to pull these into the release.16:29
ogasawaraskaet: so heads up on a pending kernel upload16:29
ogasawaraOf the bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as below:16:30
skaetogasawara, thanks for the head's up.16:30
ogasawara#508516 Toshiba nb305 suspend issues are BIOS related, a work around is being release noted;16:30
ogasawara#539467 SATA alpm is now disabled in userspace, fix for Nvidia mcp65 controllers making its way upstream, will keep alpm disabled for natty;16:30
ogasawara#542660 still present, needs deeper debug, moved out to natty-updates;16:30
ogasawara#608312 possible fix exists, need to understand why this has not been applied;16:30
ogasawara#625364 work around may be encodable via pm-utils, needs investigation;16:30
ogasawara#634487 Kernel dev able to reproduce, currently under further investigation.16:30
ogasawara#674984 there is a possible fix for this in Natty, waiting on testing results;16:30
ogasawara#686388 it seems that these may now be resolved, awaiting testing;16:30
ogasawara#710738 possible work around via disabling hwcrypt, awaiting testing;16:30
ogasawara#712075 problem remains with the latest kernels, needs investigation;16:30
ogasawara#719620 suspected BIOS issue, awaiting testing with BIOS update;16:30
ogasawara#720949 is now Fix Released;16:30
ogasawara#746751 is currently non-reproducible;16:30
ogasawara#747090 has a pending fix, Fix Committed;16:30
ogasawara#750649 is waiting on testing by the reporter;16:30
ogasawara#753071 has a huge patchset, but likely will have to wait till after release;16:30
ogasawara#731878 is now Fix Released.16:30
ogasawaraQuestions?16:30
ogasawara..16:30
skaetthanks ogasawara!16:30
skaetvery much appreciate seeing the details on those bugs.16:31
skaetare we waiting for community testing for those "awaiting testing" ones or is there someone specifically assigned to each?16:31
ogasawaraskaet: waiting for testing/feedback from the bug reporter16:32
skaetok,  thanks.16:32
skaetany other questions?16:32
skaet[Topic] Foundations team update - cjwatson16:32
MootBotNew Topic:  Foundations team update - cjwatson16:32
cjwatsonBeta 2 went pretty well for us, on the whole, and several bugs have been fixed since those images were built.16:33
cjwatsonIn general, I get the sense that we're starting to get into bugs that only affect comparatively rare kinds of systems (e.g. powerpc, Intel Macs, etc.) which is a good sign.16:33
cjwatsonNotes on individual bugs:16:33
cjwatson * Bug 566818: Surbhi is working on this and has a branch ready for review.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 566818 in plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) "Cryptsetup passphrase prompt during boot: every character typed repeats the prompt" [Medium,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/56681816:33
cjwatson * Bug 683904: Michael stalled on this in his last round of investigation.  Colin will have a look after returning from holiday next week.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 683904 in grub2 (Ubuntu Natty) "natty: memtest86+ fails to run, reboots immediately" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/68390416:33
cjwatson * Bug 723911: Explicitly deferred to natty-updates to minimise risk.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 723911 in software-center (Ubuntu Natty) "deauthorize does not remove sources.list" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72391116:33
cjwatson * Bug 728088: Asked the server team (via Dave) to look at this, since Colin can't reproduce it.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 728088 in debian-installer (Ubuntu Natty) "iscsi root with or without auth fails to boot" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72808816:33
cjwatson * Bug 728531: Some bumps in the road during testing, but James is on this and it should be fixed for release.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 728531 in upstart (Ubuntu Natty) "chroot support is not reliable" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72853116:33
cjwatson * Bug 740903: May have been fixed by bug 725408; Evan will retest.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 740903 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "return_to_partitioning fails when the replace option fails" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74090316:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 725408 in partman-auto (Ubuntu) "installer hangs detecting existing partitions" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/72540816:33
cjwatson * Bug 746313, bug 757201: Reasonably well-understood and should account for most of the Mac problems found in ISO testing.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 746313 in partman-partitioning (Ubuntu Natty) "partman should reuse existing BIOS Boot Partition" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74631316:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 757201 in parted (Ubuntu Natty) "Overlapping partitions created on Apple GPT" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75720116:33
cjwatson * Bug 756920: Stéphane is working on this, though testing has revealed some problems.  Should be sorted out by next week.16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 756920 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "Natty manual-partitioner is dangerously forgetful" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75692016:33
cjwatson * Bug 758614: No idea what's going on here.  Display manager or X problem?16:33
ubottuLaunchpad bug 758614 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "Kubuntu Wubi - Black screen during stage 2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75861416:33
cjwatson..16:33
skaetthanks cjwatson!16:34
* skaet digesting details16:34
skaetanyone else have questions?16:34
cjwatson(I'm on holiday Mon and Tue, FWIW.)16:34
skaetthanks cjwatson.   and thank you to the foundations team for all those bug fixes last week!   lovely seeing those issues go down, and I agree it seems to be the corner cases starting to emerge,  which is a good sign.  :)16:36
skaet[Topic] Server team update - Daviey (or zul)16:36
MootBotNew Topic:  Server team update - Daviey (or zul)16:36
DavieyHello o/16:37
skaet:)16:37
DavieyBeta 2 initial feedback seems to be good.16:37
Davieyi386 - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/544316:37
Davieyamd64 - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/544216:37
DavieyBugs we are currently working towards or monitoring for release:16:37
Daviey661453 dovecot.conf always shows as having been locally modified on update16:37
Daviey                - Debian has resolved this in a non-natty friendly way, investigating alternatives.16:37
Daviey745930 cloud-init timeout waiting for metadata service on EC2 cloud-init16:37
Daviey                - Not sure if this is infrastructure issue, or and issue with cloud-init, investigating16:37
Daviey760288 JeOS is oversized16:37
Daviey                - Inconsistent reports of install size, someone did suggest theirs was undersize, requires more investigation16:37
Daviey759943  mod_wsgi.so-3.2 gives errors16:37
Daviey                - Currently being investigated.16:37
Daviey747090 wrong return address sometimes pushed for INT in kvm (not qemu)16:37
Daviey                - Looks like we have a resolution, unsure of latest status (kernel space)16:37
Daviey728088 iscsi root with or without auth fails to boot16:37
Daviey                - needs further reproduction16:37
Daviey566818 Cryptsetup passphrase prompt during boot: every character typed repeats the prompt16:37
Daviey                - csurbhi seems close to a fix. (commented 3hrs ago)16:37
Daviey580319 dhcp3-server launches before upstart brings all interface, thus failing to start16:37
Daviey                 - need confirmation that it affects isc-dhcp (v4), waiting on this.16:37
Daviey759545 user prompted to update unmodified grub configuration during Ubuntu server upgrade16:37
Daviey                - untouched.16:37
DavieyWider testing of server is still very much welcomed to help uncover more bugs before release.  Tha16:38
DavieyThanks all.16:38
Daviey..16:38
skaetThanks Daviey!16:38
skaetappreciate the details,  and I'll cross check them against the latest lists, as the scrubs emerge16:38
Davieyskaet, groovy16:38
skaetany questions for Daviey?16:39
Davieyskaet, please ping me if there are some not answered.16:39
skaetDaviey,  will do.  :)16:39
skaet[Topic] Desktop team update - kenvandine16:39
MootBotNew Topic:  Desktop team update - kenvandine16:39
* skaet looks around for kenvandine ?16:40
kenvandine[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus16:40
MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus16:40
* kenvandine waves :)16:40
skaet:)16:40
kenvandine[LINK]http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html16:41
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kenvandine[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team.html16:41
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kenvandinenot much to report, just bug fixing16:41
kenvandinecurrent in progress RC bugs:16:42
kenvandine727372 [FF 4 requires both .desktop and gconf entries for url handlers]: Sent patch upstream, needs upstream review; now decided to go ahead with an Ubuntu patch16:42
kenvandine723911 [deauthorize does not remove sources.list]: no progress this week16:42
kenvandine686388 [[i965gm] GPU lockup - Invalid GTT entry during Display B Fetch]: test kernel available, needs testing16:42
kenvandine740387 [graphical corruption with multiple drivers and classic desktop]: Should be fixed, but awaiting confirmation from reporters16:42
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kenvandineand bugs we are looking at:16:42
kenvandine649809 [the session settings manager can try starting before the login screen one exits]: Thought to be fixed, but some people still get it; remaining problem is hard to reproduce, still debugging16:42
kenvandine737891 [[Arrandale] gnome-display-properties unable to correctly enable monitors connected to VGA]: Debugging going on16:42
kenvandine741385 [icons in notification area are broken]: Debugging going on16:42
kenvandinethat is all i have, questions?16:42
skaetthanks kenvandine!16:43
kenvandinethanks skaet16:43
* skaet looks around for questions before moving on....16:43
pittibah, back just in time to miss it, thanks kenvandine16:43
skaet:)16:43
kenvandinehehe :)16:43
kenvandinepitti, great timing :)16:43
skaet[Topic] Ubuntu One Team - Chipaca16:44
MootBotNew Topic:  Ubuntu One Team - Chipaca16:44
* skaet looks around for Chipaca ??16:46
skaethmm,  guess we'll come back to him later.16:46
skaet[Topic] Kubuntu Team update - Riddell16:47
MootBotNew Topic:  Kubuntu Team update - Riddell16:47
Riddellhi16:47
skaet:)16:47
Riddell * Beta 2 is out, no killer bugs16:47
Riddell * ARM images work, some issues but good enough16:47
Riddell * Kubuntu mobile good enough for its tech preview status16:47
Riddell * 8 bugs milestoned for final http://goo.gl/BKRCm16:47
Riddell   * of which bug 758614 is most worrying16:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 758614 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "Kubuntu Wubi - Black screen during stage 2" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/75861416:47
Riddell   * and bug 745607 a bit annoying too16:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 745607 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "ubiquity still installed after oem-config on kubuntu netbook" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74560716:47
Riddell   * Kubuntu community very concerned by bug 696915, bless them16:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 696915 in plymouth (Ubuntu Natty) "make it possible to configure grub background color in a usable way" [Medium,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/69691516:47
Riddell * still no update of kubuntu-docs, will have to update the 10.10 docs if they doesn't arrive over the weekend16:47
Riddell..16:47
skaetThanks Riddell!   good summary.16:48
skaetwill keep an eye on those bugs you flagged.16:48
skaetany questions?16:48
skaet[Topic] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth16:48
MootBotNew Topic:  Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth16:48
dbarthhi16:48
dbarthclassic report link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/NattyReleaseStatus16:49
dbarthwhat's new this week?16:49
dbarththe final installment of unity, 3.8.8 with only 28 bugs fixed16:49
dbarthbut that shows we're getting more stable now!16:49
skaet:)16:50
dbarthalso a new compiz upload fixing 4-5 high prio bugs and crashers, and more of those stacking issues nailed down (with apps using fullscreen for ex) and a very annoying focus issue with thunderbird16:50
dbarthlinks in the report16:50
dbarthi also reviewed all of the bugs in the release meeting agenda and emailed you a detailled update16:50
dbarthwe still have a couple of them on the radar for potential fixes on monday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-foundations/+milestone/unity-3.8.1016:51
dbarthand 1 alreadyu fixed in compiz that fixes an amarok bug16:51
dbarthlast16:51
dbarthwe have a plan to solve the CJK problem, and action items to get something in a PPA now16:51
dbarth..16:51
skaetthanks dbarth!   I'll go check my inbox after this meeting.16:52
cjwatsonRiddell: (sorry, I'm late) 696915 is fixed - you can either leave it at black (which is what you should get now), or add a slave alternative to plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo, documented in the bug16:52
cjwatsonwell, now -> whenever those packages are accepted16:52
* skaet suspects she'll be talking with dbarth after the QA folks finish the bug triage and the beta2 results start coming in....16:53
skaetdbarth,  please thank the team for all the bug fixes,   its starting to feel a lot more solid based on my impressions and what I've been hearing from others.16:54
ScottKcjwatson: Saw that.  Thanks.16:54
dbarthsure, i will pass on the message; much appreaciated16:54
skaetanyone have questions for dbarth?16:54
skaet[Topic] ARM team update - ogra16:55
MootBotNew Topic:  ARM team update - ogra16:55
ogra_Status is at:16:55
ogra_[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:55
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MootBotLINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty16:55
ogra_ * unity-2d upstream works on a final bugfix release to be uploaded on monday16:55
ogra_--16:55
ogra_Image status:16:55
ogra_ * Netbook images are fine16:55
ogra_ * New headless/serial image works fine16:55
ogra_--16:55
ogra_Specs:16:55
ogra_Entire status: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html16:55
ogra_--16:55
ogra_Bugs:16:55
ogra_ * bug 74602316:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 746023 in pulseaudio (Ubuntu Natty) "No sound on omap4" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74602316:55
ogra_ * bug 74613316:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 746133 in linux-ti-omap4 (Ubuntu) "Video loses sync on omap4" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74613316:55
ogra_ * bug 76003516:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 760035 in python-apt (Ubuntu Natty) "Ubuntu.info template doesn't allow deb-src lines using archive.ubuntu.com on ports architectures" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/76003516:55
ogra_ * bug 74722916:55
ubottuLaunchpad bug 747229 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Natty) "weird color change during oem-config debconf package removal step in serial installs" [Medium,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/74722916:55
ogra_--16:55
ogra_..16:55
skaetThanks ogra_ !16:56
ogra_:)16:56
skaetwas seeing some other signs of sound issues in some of the initial bugs from beta 2, but hopefully just duplicates of 746023.16:57
ogra_for omap 4 ?16:57
ogra_there is no sound support at all atm16:58
ogra_i would be surprised to see other bugs here16:58
skaetthe refs weren't specific (ie omap),  so need so to check it was.    likely was though.16:58
ogra_k16:58
skaetany other questions?16:59
skaet[Topic] MOTU team update - ScottK16:59
MootBotNew Topic:  MOTU team update - ScottK16:59
ScottKHello16:59
ScottKI've been pushing Universe uploads through the queue as fast as people upload them.17:00
ScottKThere's still plenty of FTBFS/NBS work to do before release.17:00
ScottKAs always we'll run up to the wire.17:00
ScottKI think that's it.17:01
ScottK..17:01
skaetThanks ScottK!17:01
skaetwho's going to be approver for those last multiverse/universe uploads?17:01
ScottKThe release team as a whole usually handles it.17:02
ScottKI don't expect it to be different this time.17:02
skaetWe probably need to update the beta process docs then...17:02
skaetWork with universe/multiverse community to identify delegates to approve Feature Freeze Exceptions, in addition to ubuntu-release until the date of Final Freeze for universe17:02
ScottKWe didn't do delegations this cycle.17:02
ScottKThat is a bit different, but I think it's worked fine.17:03
ScottKSo that probably just needs a "if any" in there somewhere.17:03
ScottKWe generally do that around feature freeze.17:03
ScottKOver the last couple of years I think there's been a general decline in the number of rabid fanboy requests we get for last minute 'essential' updates of $MYPETPACKAGE.17:04
ScottK.. (again)17:04
skaetok,  lets review at UDS then,  and update to "if any" is appropriate to add.    I'll go back and review Feature Freeze docs as well then too.17:04
skaetany other questions?17:04
skaet[Topic] Linaro update - JamieBennett17:05
MootBotNew Topic:  Linaro update - JamieBennett17:05
JamieBennett\o17:05
JamieBennettNothing much to report from Linaro this week, there are no real FFe's planned and what we will be working on will be Linaro only17:06
JamieBennettI will let you know if there is anything potentially intersecting17:06
JamieBennett..17:06
skaetThanks JamieBennett!17:06
skaetat this point,  I'm going to assume no news is good news ;)17:07
skaetany questions for JamieBennett ?17:07
skaetis Chipaca around now?17:07
skaet[Topic] any other kudos/comments/questions?17:07
MootBotNew Topic:  any other kudos/comments/questions?17:07
* skaet looks around...17:08
skaetJust wanted to say thank you again to the teams for the hard work on getting beta 2 out the door.    Very cool to see all the new features, and the crashers disappearing.  :)17:09
skaethmm... no one else has comments,  so guess its time to end.17:10
skaet#endmeeting17:10
MootBotMeeting finished at 11:10.17:10
skaetThanks to jibel, victorp, jdstrand, ogasawara, cjwatson, Daviey, kenvandine,  Riddell, dbarth, ogra, ScottK, JamieBennett17:10
jibelThanks skaet17:11
Chipacadarn! missed the meeting :(17:37
Chipacaskaet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/594503/17:38
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