[15:58] <pitti> skaet: will we even have a release meeting today?
[15:58] <kenvandine> pitti!
[15:59] <pitti> hey kenvandine
[15:59] <skaet> pitti, yup,  planning on it
[15:59] <kenvandine> you made it :)
[15:59] <kenvandine> pitti, still on the train?
[15:59] <pitti> I'll need to change trains in about 30 mins, so I might miss our desktop part
[15:59] <pitti> kenvandine: yes, all day; 6 hours there, now 6 hours back
[15:59] <kenvandine> pitti, whew... long day :/
[15:59] <pitti> kenvandine: but the desktop report should be reasonably current
[15:59] <skaet> pitti,  ouch.
[15:59] <Daviey> o/
[16:00] <kenvandine> pitti, thx for updating it
[16:00] <pitti> but worth it -- we have a really nice flat now!
[16:00] <kenvandine> pitti, congrats :)
[16:00] <skaet> great!
[16:00] <skaet> hmm about time,  so lets start..
[16:00] <davmor2> pitti: yeah but a 12 hour commute to work ;)
[16:01] <skaet> #startmeeting
[16:01] <MootBot> Meeting started at 10:01. The chair is skaet.
[16:01] <MootBot> Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE]
[16:01] <skaet> [Topic] Natty overview - skaet_
[16:01] <skaet> Reminder:   please use ".." on separate line when you've finished typing.   If someone wants to comment during the updates, please "o/", so we know to wait.
[16:01] <MootBot> New Topic:  Natty overview - skaet_
[16:01] <skaet> .
[16:01] <skaet> Agenda is at:
[16:01] <skaet> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-04-15
[16:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReleaseTeam/Meeting/2011-04-15
[16:01] <skaet> .
[16:01] <skaet> Milestoned bugs for 11.04 release can be found:
[16:01] <skaet>  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.milestone=33569
[16:01] <skaet> milestoned bugs from 11.04 beta 2 are in the process of being assessed
[16:01] <skaet> and either transfered to 11.04,  or deferred to Oneiric.
[16:01] <skaet> .
[16:01] <skaet> Its unlikely all will get fixed.   Help is requested of leads to please scrub through the list, and move all those not able to fix to  either:  natty-updates,  or open a separate task against oneiric, and mark the ones against natty as won't fix, if they're not candidates for updates.
[16:01] <skaet> .
[16:01] <skaet> Bugs targetted for this release can be found:
[16:01] <skaet> [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs
[16:01] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/natty/+bugs
[16:01] <skaet> .
[16:02] <skaet> Upcoming Natty Significant Dates:
[16:02] <skaet> - LanguagePackTranslationDeadline 4/20 (1200 UTC)
[16:02] <skaet> - Last bug fix 4/21 (0900 UTC)- hard freeze
[16:02] <skaet> - Release Image Builds 4/21
[16:02] <skaet> - Unseeded Universe/Multiverse Final Freeze - 4/26 (1200 UTC)
[16:02] <skaet> - "Release!! - 11.04 Release Date: April 28, 2011
[16:02] <skaet> .
[16:02] <skaet> EOL's approaching:
[16:02] <skaet> - Karmic (9.10) - EOL on 4/30
[16:02] <skaet> - Hardy Desktop (8.04) - EOL on 5/12
[16:02] <skaet> - Dapper Drake (6.06 ) - EOL on 6/1
[16:03] <skaet> and wanted to say a big thank you to everyone for helping to get beta 2 out the door yesterday!
[16:03] <skaet> any questions about the upcoming dates?
[16:03] <skaet> ..
[16:03]  * jdstrand is very pleased with those dates :)
[16:04] <jdstrand> the EOLs in particular :P
[16:04] <skaet> :)
[16:04]  * skaet figured it was the EOLs.
[16:04] <skaet> :)
[16:04]  * jdstrand nods
[16:04] <skaet> ok,  if nothing else,  lets move on to round tables.
[16:04] <skaet> [Topic] QA team update -  jibel
[16:04] <MootBot> New Topic:  QA team update -  jibel
[16:05] <jibel> hi all o/
[16:05] <skaet> :)
[16:05] <jibel> Natty Work Items
[16:05] <jibel> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/cloud-server-n-uec-qa
[16:05] <jibel> We are now able to run EUC fine on Beta 2. hggdh is investigating the failures.
[16:05] <jibel> QA Dashboard
[16:06] <jibel> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html
[16:06] <jibel> linux, unity, software-center are in both last day and last 7 days top 5
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/qadashboard/qadashboard.html
[16:06] <jibel> Automatic Upgrade Testing mostly green (white actually)
[16:06] <jibel> http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/
[16:06] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~mvo/automatic-upgrade-testing/current/
[16:06] <jibel> Beta 2 Testing results:
[16:06] <jibel> 540 results reported (+20.3% increase compared to Beta 1)
[16:06] <jibel> * Image Coverage : 100.00% (78/78)
[16:07] <jibel> * Mandatory Test Cases : 95.74% (225/235)
[16:07] <jibel> * Run Once Test Cases : 95.45% (42/44)
[16:07] <jibel> * Overall : 95.70% (267/279)
[16:07] <jibel> 88 (+8.64%) bugs have been reported affecting a total of 66 test cases.
[16:07] <jibel> Amongst which 7 with a critical importance (7 closed) and 55 with high importance (26 closed)
[16:07] <jibel> 26 Tests failed (-35 compared to Beta 1).
[16:07] <jibel> This makes a failure rate of 9.74% (26/267) (-12.52% compared to Beta 1)
[16:07] <jibel> This can be interpreted as more bugs found, in line with the increased participation, but less release critical bugs (less test failures)
[16:07] <jibel> ..
[16:07] <skaet> Thanks jibel!
[16:08] <skaet> good to see the statistics bearing out the impressions it felt much more solid than beta 1
[16:09] <skaet> what is the autotesting of the desktop looking like?
[16:09] <skaet> (true failures, as opposed to test failures)
[16:09] <skaet> s/test/test infrastructure/
[16:09] <mvo> yeah, the autoupgradetester is really happy
[16:09] <mvo> plus it got more diskspace and so more tests
[16:09] <skaet> :)
[16:09] <jibel> patrickmw has been reviewing the failures and filed bugs against mago, now we need to fix the tests.
[16:10] <jibel> no new failures on the applications
[16:10] <skaet> thanks,  positive trend continues there too then.   cool.  :)
[16:10] <skaet> anyone else have questions for jibel?
[16:10] <dbarth> o/
[16:10] <skaet> dbarth,  go ahead
[16:11] <dbarth> bootcharts results or anything indicating that there is a performance problem at startup with unity?
[16:11] <dbarth> do you have ...
[16:11] <dbarth> (sorry, can' type today)
[16:12] <jibel> dbarth, bootchart are measuring the boot time, from the feedback on the forums, blogs, ... the complaint is about the time for the desktop to come up after login
[16:12] <jibel> I'll see with bdmurray if we have something
[16:12] <dbarth> right, ok, so we're tracking that feedback as well
[16:12] <dbarth> ok thanks
[16:12] <seb128> jibel: the charts do grub to desktop loaded
[16:13]  * skaet looks around for anyone else?
[16:13] <jibel> oh ok, I'll check what we have and we'll come back to you
[16:14] <skaet> Thanks again jibel,  and thanks to all the folks who helped with the testing over the last week!  excellent coverage,  :)
[16:14] <skaet> [Topic] Hardware Certification team update - victorp
[16:14] <MootBot> New Topic:  Hardware Certification team update - victorp
[16:14] <victorp> o/
[16:14] <skaet> :)
[16:14] <victorp> This week we continued testing, using the complete certification test
[16:14] <victorp> suite, the systems that we have scheduled to certify for 11.04.
[16:14] <victorp> The results of the testing can be found at:
[16:14] <victorp> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/natty-testing/natty_beta1.html
[16:14] <victorp> There are some systems that appear in the report as "Not Tested", were
[16:14] <victorp> actually tested, but are failing to report back to the certification
[16:14] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~hwcert/natty-testing/natty_beta1.html
[16:14] <victorp> website. This has been identified as a bug in our infrastructure and we
[16:14] <victorp> have given it the highest priority to have it fixed prior to
[16:14] <victorp> certification testing for 11.04.
[16:14] <victorp> The bugs found during this testing have been filed against the
[16:14] <victorp> corresponding package with the tag of blocks-hwcert:
[16:15] <victorp> [LINK] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=blocks-hwcert
[16:15] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.tag=blocks-hwcert
[16:15] <victorp> We are escalating the bugs to the corresponding teams to try to have
[16:15] <victorp> them fixed for Natty before release, on in an early SRU.
[16:16] <skaet> ..?
[16:17]  * skaet wondering if victorp is done or having a communication glitch...
[16:17] <victorp> not here still
[16:17] <victorp> :)
[16:17] <victorp> just to let you know that we are done with beta1
[16:18] <victorp> testing and we are now retesting fixes and so on
[16:18] <victorp> ..
[16:18] <skaet> thanks victorp!
[16:18] <skaet> looks like of the high blocks-hwcert all but one unity are linux.
[16:19] <skaet> linux kernel has frozen right now
[16:19] <skaet> do you consider any of the blocks-hwcert to be kitten killers?
[16:19] <ogasawara> skaet: JFo and I have been reviewing them this morning, and getting nomination/milestone reset accordingly
[16:19] <skaet> ogasawara, excellent.  :)
[16:19] <ogasawara> skaet: I didn't see any kittne killers from my point of view
[16:19] <victorp> they are all sruable
[16:20] <skaet> victorp, ogasawara,   good to hear.   thanks!
[16:20] <skaet> any other questions for victorp?
[16:20] <skaet> [Topic] Security team update - jdstrand
[16:20] <MootBot> New Topic:  Security team update - jdstrand
[16:21] <jdstrand> hi!
[16:21] <skaet> :)
[16:21] <jdstrand> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:21] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:21] <jdstrand> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html
[16:21] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-security.html
[16:21] <jdstrand> As stated in previous meetings, even though we are now above the trend line now, all work items tied to the release process are completed. We are fixing natty bugs here and there as we are made aware of them.
[16:21] <jdstrand> As usual, the team has been focusing primarily on stable release updates as well as security updates in the development release.
[16:21] <jdstrand> I noticed bug #663294 was still on our list for the agenda, but it's fixed now (so I removed it just now). (thanks doko)
[16:22] <jdstrand> We will likely do another apparmor upload to address a few profiling bugs that came in. They are not high priority but have a very low chance of regression and it would be nice to have them in natty before release.
[16:22] <jdstrand> ..
[16:22] <skaet> thanks jdstrand!
[16:22] <jdstrand> sure! :)
[16:22] <skaet> (and thanks for catching that fixed bug in the agenda)
[16:23] <skaet> any security updates on the horizon for the next week that might interact with natty release?
[16:24] <jdstrand> no. there may be a 0-day update for firefox, but we won't try to shove that into natty (upstream currently scheduled it for week of release)
[16:24] <jdstrand> shove into natty before release that is
[16:24] <jdstrand> natty-security, you bet! :)
[16:24] <skaet> thanks!
[16:24] <cjwatson> 663294> I didn't get the sense that the bug list on the agenda had been updated at all this week
[16:25] <jdstrand> cjwatson: I think it was fixed the week prior
[16:25] <cjwatson> I did fairly extensive work on ours, but probably didn't catch most new bugs
[16:25] <jdstrand> a binutils update fixed it
[16:25] <jdstrand> well, the underlyign issue, and then firefox re-enabled -pie
[16:26] <jdstrand> cjwatson: oh, I totally misread your comment
[16:26] <skaet> cjwatson,  yeah am still needing to filter in the new ones,  am waiting for the bug scrub that's happening today,  and will be taking a pass as soon as I hear they're done at adding.
[16:27] <jdstrand> that was the only bug I personally noticed
[16:28] <skaet> I'll make a special version available with the date, after the new ones have gotten added properly.
[16:28] <cjwatson> thanks
[16:28] <skaet> any other questions for jdstrand?
[16:28] <skaet> [Topic] Kernel team update - ogasawara  (or apw?)
[16:28] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kernel team update - ogasawara  (or apw?)
[16:29] <ogasawara> Overall status is reported at the first link below.  Burn down for the release milestone is at the second link below.  Burndown for the cycle is at the third link:
[16:29] <ogasawara> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:29] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html
[16:29] <ogasawara> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:29] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:29] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html
[16:29] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-kernel-team.svg
[16:29] <ogasawara> We have very few specific work items in the ubuntu-11.04-beta-2 milestone, mostly non-release related.  These have now all been dispositioned either postponed or pushed to the release, no remaining task is release criticial.  The natty kernel is now at v2.6.38-8.42, this represents v2.6.38.2 mainline stable release, brining a number of bug fixes since the v2.6.38 final.  We already have a few bug fixes pending and v2.6.3
[16:29] <ogasawara> 8.3 has now released and so we are planning on doing one more upload likely monday to pull these into the release.
[16:29] <ogasawara> skaet: so heads up on a pending kernel upload
[16:30] <ogasawara> Of the bugs called out on the agenda against the kernel, status is as below:
[16:30] <skaet> ogasawara, thanks for the head's up.
[16:30] <ogasawara> #508516 Toshiba nb305 suspend issues are BIOS related, a work around is being release noted;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #539467 SATA alpm is now disabled in userspace, fix for Nvidia mcp65 controllers making its way upstream, will keep alpm disabled for natty;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #542660 still present, needs deeper debug, moved out to natty-updates;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #608312 possible fix exists, need to understand why this has not been applied;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #625364 work around may be encodable via pm-utils, needs investigation;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #634487 Kernel dev able to reproduce, currently under further investigation.
[16:30] <ogasawara> #674984 there is a possible fix for this in Natty, waiting on testing results;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #686388 it seems that these may now be resolved, awaiting testing;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #710738 possible work around via disabling hwcrypt, awaiting testing;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #712075 problem remains with the latest kernels, needs investigation;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #719620 suspected BIOS issue, awaiting testing with BIOS update;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #720949 is now Fix Released;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #746751 is currently non-reproducible;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #747090 has a pending fix, Fix Committed;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #750649 is waiting on testing by the reporter;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #753071 has a huge patchset, but likely will have to wait till after release;
[16:30] <ogasawara> #731878 is now Fix Released.
[16:30] <ogasawara> Questions?
[16:30] <ogasawara> ..
[16:30] <skaet> thanks ogasawara!
[16:31] <skaet> very much appreciate seeing the details on those bugs.
[16:31] <skaet> are we waiting for community testing for those "awaiting testing" ones or is there someone specifically assigned to each?
[16:32] <ogasawara> skaet: waiting for testing/feedback from the bug reporter
[16:32] <skaet> ok,  thanks.
[16:32] <skaet> any other questions?
[16:32] <skaet> [Topic] Foundations team update - cjwatson
[16:32] <MootBot> New Topic:  Foundations team update - cjwatson
[16:33] <cjwatson> Beta 2 went pretty well for us, on the whole, and several bugs have been fixed since those images were built.
[16:33] <cjwatson> In general, I get the sense that we're starting to get into bugs that only affect comparatively rare kinds of systems (e.g. powerpc, Intel Macs, etc.) which is a good sign.
[16:33] <cjwatson> Notes on individual bugs:
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 566818: Surbhi is working on this and has a branch ready for review.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 683904: Michael stalled on this in his last round of investigation.  Colin will have a look after returning from holiday next week.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 723911: Explicitly deferred to natty-updates to minimise risk.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 728088: Asked the server team (via Dave) to look at this, since Colin can't reproduce it.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 728531: Some bumps in the road during testing, but James is on this and it should be fixed for release.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 740903: May have been fixed by bug 725408; Evan will retest.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 746313, bug 757201: Reasonably well-understood and should account for most of the Mac problems found in ISO testing.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 756920: Stéphane is working on this, though testing has revealed some problems.  Should be sorted out by next week.
[16:33] <cjwatson>  * Bug 758614: No idea what's going on here.  Display manager or X problem?
[16:33] <cjwatson> ..
[16:34] <skaet> thanks cjwatson!
[16:34]  * skaet digesting details
[16:34] <skaet> anyone else have questions?
[16:34] <cjwatson> (I'm on holiday Mon and Tue, FWIW.)
[16:36] <skaet> thanks cjwatson.   and thank you to the foundations team for all those bug fixes last week!   lovely seeing those issues go down, and I agree it seems to be the corner cases starting to emerge,  which is a good sign.  :)
[16:36] <skaet> [Topic] Server team update - Daviey (or zul)
[16:36] <MootBot> New Topic:  Server team update - Daviey (or zul)
[16:37] <Daviey> Hello o/
[16:37] <skaet> :)
[16:37] <Daviey> Beta 2 initial feedback seems to be good.
[16:37] <Daviey> i386 - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/5443
[16:37] <Daviey> amd64 - http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/test/5442
[16:37] <Daviey> Bugs we are currently working towards or monitoring for release:
[16:37] <Daviey> 661453 	dovecot.conf always shows as having been locally modified on update
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - Debian has resolved this in a non-natty friendly way, investigating alternatives.
[16:37] <Daviey> 745930 	cloud-init timeout waiting for metadata service on EC2 cloud-init
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - Not sure if this is infrastructure issue, or and issue with cloud-init, investigating
[16:37] <Daviey> 760288 	JeOS is oversized
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - Inconsistent reports of install size, someone did suggest theirs was undersize, requires more investigation
[16:37] <Daviey> 759943  mod_wsgi.so-3.2 gives errors
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - Currently being investigated.
[16:37] <Daviey> 747090 wrong return address sometimes pushed for INT in kvm (not qemu)
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - Looks like we have a resolution, unsure of latest status (kernel space)
[16:37] <Daviey> 728088 	iscsi root with or without auth fails to boot
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - needs further reproduction
[16:37] <Daviey> 566818 	Cryptsetup passphrase prompt during boot: every character typed repeats the prompt
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - csurbhi seems close to a fix. (commented 3hrs ago)
[16:37] <Daviey> 580319 	dhcp3-server launches before upstart brings all interface, thus failing to start
[16:37] <Daviey>                  - need confirmation that it affects isc-dhcp (v4), waiting on this.
[16:37] <Daviey> 759545 	user prompted to update unmodified grub configuration during Ubuntu server upgrade
[16:37] <Daviey>                 - untouched.
[16:38] <Daviey> Wider testing of server is still very much welcomed to help uncover more bugs before release.  Tha
[16:38] <Daviey> Thanks all.
[16:38] <Daviey> ..
[16:38] <skaet> Thanks Daviey!
[16:38] <skaet> appreciate the details,  and I'll cross check them against the latest lists, as the scrubs emerge
[16:38] <Daviey> skaet, groovy
[16:39] <skaet> any questions for Daviey?
[16:39] <Daviey> skaet, please ping me if there are some not answered.
[16:39] <skaet> Daviey,  will do.  :)
[16:39] <skaet> [Topic] Desktop team update - kenvandine
[16:39] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop team update - kenvandine
[16:40]  * skaet looks around for kenvandine ?
[16:40] <kenvandine> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:40] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/ReleaseStatus
[16:40]  * kenvandine waves :)
[16:40] <skaet> :)
[16:41] <kenvandine> [LINK]http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html
[16:41] <MootBot> LINK received: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team-ubuntu-11.04-beta-2.html
[16:41] <kenvandine> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:41] <MootBot> LINK received:  http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/canonical-desktop-team.html
[16:41] <kenvandine> not much to report, just bug fixing
[16:42] <kenvandine> current in progress RC bugs:
[16:42] <kenvandine> 727372 [FF 4 requires both .desktop and gconf entries for url handlers]: Sent patch upstream, needs upstream review; now decided to go ahead with an Ubuntu patch
[16:42] <kenvandine> 723911 [deauthorize does not remove sources.list]: no progress this week
[16:42] <kenvandine> 686388 [[i965gm] GPU lockup - Invalid GTT entry during Display B Fetch]: test kernel available, needs testing
[16:42] <kenvandine> 740387 [graphical corruption with multiple drivers and classic desktop]: Should be fixed, but awaiting confirmation from reporters
[16:42] <kenvandine> and bugs we are looking at:
[16:42] <kenvandine> 649809 [the session settings manager can try starting before the login screen one exits]: Thought to be fixed, but some people still get it; remaining problem is hard to reproduce, still debugging
[16:42] <kenvandine> 737891 [[Arrandale] gnome-display-properties unable to correctly enable monitors connected to VGA]: Debugging going on
[16:42] <kenvandine> 741385 [icons in notification area are broken]: Debugging going on
[16:42] <kenvandine> that is all i have, questions?
[16:43] <skaet> thanks kenvandine!
[16:43] <kenvandine> thanks skaet
[16:43]  * skaet looks around for questions before moving on....
[16:43] <pitti> bah, back just in time to miss it, thanks kenvandine
[16:43] <skaet> :)
[16:43] <kenvandine> hehe :)
[16:43] <kenvandine> pitti, great timing :)
[16:44] <skaet> [Topic] Ubuntu One Team - Chipaca
[16:44] <MootBot> New Topic:  Ubuntu One Team - Chipaca
[16:46]  * skaet looks around for Chipaca ??
[16:46] <skaet> hmm,  guess we'll come back to him later.
[16:47] <skaet> [Topic] Kubuntu Team update - Riddell
[16:47] <MootBot> New Topic:  Kubuntu Team update - Riddell
[16:47] <Riddell> hi
[16:47] <skaet> :)
[16:47] <Riddell>  * Beta 2 is out, no killer bugs
[16:47] <Riddell>  * ARM images work, some issues but good enough
[16:47] <Riddell>  * Kubuntu mobile good enough for its tech preview status
[16:47] <Riddell>  * 8 bugs milestoned for final http://goo.gl/BKRCm
[16:47] <Riddell>    * of which bug 758614 is most worrying
[16:47] <Riddell>    * and bug 745607 a bit annoying too
[16:47] <Riddell>    * Kubuntu community very concerned by bug 696915, bless them
[16:47] <Riddell>  * still no update of kubuntu-docs, will have to update the 10.10 docs if they doesn't arrive over the weekend
[16:47] <Riddell> ..
[16:48] <skaet> Thanks Riddell!   good summary.
[16:48] <skaet> will keep an eye on those bugs you flagged.
[16:48] <skaet> any questions?
[16:48] <skaet> [Topic] Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth
[16:48] <MootBot> New Topic:  Desktop Experience Team Update - dbarth
[16:48] <dbarth> hi
[16:49] <dbarth> classic report link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopExperienceTeam/NattyReleaseStatus
[16:49] <dbarth> what's new this week?
[16:49] <dbarth> the final installment of unity, 3.8.8 with only 28 bugs fixed
[16:49] <dbarth> but that shows we're getting more stable now!
[16:50] <skaet> :)
[16:50] <dbarth> also a new compiz upload fixing 4-5 high prio bugs and crashers, and more of those stacking issues nailed down (with apps using fullscreen for ex) and a very annoying focus issue with thunderbird
[16:50] <dbarth> links in the report
[16:50] <dbarth> i also reviewed all of the bugs in the release meeting agenda and emailed you a detailled update
[16:51] <dbarth> we still have a couple of them on the radar for potential fixes on monday: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-foundations/+milestone/unity-3.8.10
[16:51] <dbarth> and 1 alreadyu fixed in compiz that fixes an amarok bug
[16:51] <dbarth> last
[16:51] <dbarth> we have a plan to solve the CJK problem, and action items to get something in a PPA now
[16:51] <dbarth> ..
[16:52] <skaet> thanks dbarth!   I'll go check my inbox after this meeting.
[16:52] <cjwatson> Riddell: (sorry, I'm late) 696915 is fixed - you can either leave it at black (which is what you should get now), or add a slave alternative to plymouth-theme-kubuntu-logo, documented in the bug
[16:52] <cjwatson> well, now -> whenever those packages are accepted
[16:53]  * skaet suspects she'll be talking with dbarth after the QA folks finish the bug triage and the beta2 results start coming in....
[16:54] <skaet> dbarth,  please thank the team for all the bug fixes,   its starting to feel a lot more solid based on my impressions and what I've been hearing from others.
[16:54] <ScottK> cjwatson: Saw that.  Thanks.
[16:54] <dbarth> sure, i will pass on the message; much appreaciated
[16:54] <skaet> anyone have questions for dbarth?
[16:55] <skaet> [Topic] ARM team update - ogra
[16:55] <MootBot> New Topic:  ARM team update - ogra
[16:55] <ogra_> Status is at:
[16:55] <ogra_> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:55] <ogra_> --
[16:55] <MootBot> LINK received:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ARMTeam/ReleaseStatus/Natty
[16:55] <ogra_>  * unity-2d upstream works on a final bugfix release to be uploaded on monday
[16:55] <ogra_> --
[16:55] <ogra_> Image status:
[16:55] <ogra_>  * Netbook images are fine
[16:55] <ogra_>  * New headless/serial image works fine
[16:55] <ogra_> --
[16:55] <ogra_> Specs:
[16:55] <ogra_> Entire status: http://people.canonical.com/~platform/workitems/natty/ubuntu-armel.html
[16:55] <ogra_> --
[16:55] <ogra_> Bugs:
[16:55] <ogra_>  * bug 746023
[16:55] <ogra_>  * bug 746133
[16:55] <ogra_>  * bug 760035
[16:55] <ogra_>  * bug 747229
[16:55] <ogra_> --
[16:55] <ogra_> ..
[16:56] <skaet> Thanks ogra_ !
[16:56] <ogra_> :)
[16:57] <skaet> was seeing some other signs of sound issues in some of the initial bugs from beta 2, but hopefully just duplicates of 746023.
[16:57] <ogra_> for omap 4 ?
[16:58] <ogra_> there is no sound support at all atm
[16:58] <ogra_> i would be surprised to see other bugs here
[16:58] <skaet> the refs weren't specific (ie omap),  so need so to check it was.    likely was though.
[16:58] <ogra_> k
[16:59] <skaet> any other questions?
[16:59] <skaet> [Topic] MOTU team update - ScottK
[16:59] <MootBot> New Topic:  MOTU team update - ScottK
[16:59] <ScottK> Hello
[17:00] <ScottK> I've been pushing Universe uploads through the queue as fast as people upload them.
[17:00] <ScottK> There's still plenty of FTBFS/NBS work to do before release.
[17:00] <ScottK> As always we'll run up to the wire.
[17:01] <ScottK> I think that's it.
[17:01] <ScottK> ..
[17:01] <skaet> Thanks ScottK!
[17:01] <skaet> who's going to be approver for those last multiverse/universe uploads?
[17:02] <ScottK> The release team as a whole usually handles it.
[17:02] <ScottK> I don't expect it to be different this time.
[17:02] <skaet> We probably need to update the beta process docs then...
[17:02] <skaet> Work with universe/multiverse community to identify delegates to approve Feature Freeze Exceptions, in addition to ubuntu-release until the date of Final Freeze for universe
[17:02] <ScottK> We didn't do delegations this cycle.
[17:03] <ScottK> That is a bit different, but I think it's worked fine.
[17:03] <ScottK> So that probably just needs a "if any" in there somewhere.
[17:03] <ScottK> We generally do that around feature freeze.
[17:04] <ScottK> Over the last couple of years I think there's been a general decline in the number of rabid fanboy requests we get for last minute 'essential' updates of $MYPETPACKAGE.
[17:04] <ScottK> .. (again)
[17:04] <skaet> ok,  lets review at UDS then,  and update to "if any" is appropriate to add.    I'll go back and review Feature Freeze docs as well then too.
[17:04] <skaet> any other questions?
[17:05] <skaet> [Topic] Linaro update - JamieBennett
[17:05] <MootBot> New Topic:  Linaro update - JamieBennett
[17:05] <JamieBennett> \o
[17:06] <JamieBennett> Nothing much to report from Linaro this week, there are no real FFe's planned and what we will be working on will be Linaro only
[17:06] <JamieBennett> I will let you know if there is anything potentially intersecting
[17:06] <JamieBennett> ..
[17:06] <skaet> Thanks JamieBennett!
[17:07] <skaet> at this point,  I'm going to assume no news is good news ;)
[17:07] <skaet> any questions for JamieBennett ?
[17:07] <skaet> is Chipaca around now?
[17:07] <skaet> [Topic] any other kudos/comments/questions?
[17:07] <MootBot> New Topic:  any other kudos/comments/questions?
[17:08]  * skaet looks around...
[17:09] <skaet> Just wanted to say thank you again to the teams for the hard work on getting beta 2 out the door.    Very cool to see all the new features, and the crashers disappearing.  :)
[17:10] <skaet> hmm... no one else has comments,  so guess its time to end.
[17:10] <skaet> #endmeeting
[17:10] <MootBot> Meeting finished at 11:10.
[17:10] <skaet> Thanks to jibel, victorp, jdstrand, ogasawara, cjwatson, Daviey, kenvandine,  Riddell, dbarth, ogra, ScottK, JamieBennett
[17:11] <jibel> Thanks skaet
[17:37] <Chipaca> darn! missed the meeting :(
[17:38] <Chipaca> skaet: http://paste.ubuntu.com/594503/
[21:49] <mhall119> kirkland: you going to be around for the lightning talks in 10 minutes?
[21:49] <kirkland> mhall119: yessir!
[21:49] <mhall119> awesome, thanks
[21:49] <kirkland> mhall119: #ubuntu-classroom?
[21:49] <mhall119> and -classroom-chat
[21:49] <mhall119> and -classroom-backstage if you need assistance