| === Tabstar is now known as Tabmow | ||
| mneptok | rww: i'd keep up with the 13000 mailing lists and 6483534297536 channels, but i have a real life >:P | 03:15 |
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| rww | only one IRC mailing list and fifteen channels! | 03:16 |
| mneptok | and a job. and conferences. and insane amounts of travel. and a wife .... | 03:16 |
| rww | get your wife to op here and share the reading! | 03:17 |
| mneptok | yeah, because her job managing an NIH grant laboratory affords her *TONS* of free time :) | 03:18 |
| mneptok | is Guest96463 an op i just don't recognize by ident/$REALNAME? | 03:19 |
| rww | for some reason my head is saying staffer | 03:20 |
| rww | I don't recognize them, though. | 03:20 |
| mneptok | rww: kickban and see if you earn another k: line >:) | 03:20 |
| rww | I maintain that I didn't earn the first one >.> | 03:21 |
| mneptok | rwww is now known as rww-bitter | 03:21 |
| mneptok | and don't change nicks back too quickly | 03:21 |
| rww | an imposter with extra wwwwwwwwwwwww | 03:21 |
| mneptok | the extra w is for extra weird | 03:22 |
| nhandler | Guest96463 appears to be SportChick, a staffer. But feel free to kick her until she gets back and identifies (she won't be offended) ;) | 03:27 |
| rww | rww's brain wins again. | 03:27 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:58 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 04:58 |
| ubottu | FloodBot3 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 05:10 |
| ubottu | FloodBot1 called the ops in #ubuntu-ops-monitor (exploit) | 05:10 |
| bazhang | another odd question from pehden | 07:13 |
| rww | two weeks until natty release. are you all having fun yet O:) | 07:36 |
| === gary is now known as Gary | ||
| ubottu | ldunn called the ops in #ubuntu-offtopic (electrick) | 12:07 |
| Tm_T | ): | 12:07 |
| bazhang | bouma seems familiar | 12:26 |
| bazhang | liuzhongxiao suddenly understood english when I PM'd him | 13:01 |
| ikonia | shock horror | 13:02 |
| bazhang | wish ylmfos did not automatically point to #ubuntu | 13:02 |
| Pici | Well, since they only have a forum and not a bug reporting system, you can be my guest if you want to get them to change it ;) | 13:03 |
| bazhang | hehe | 13:04 |
| jrib | this is going to be frustrating :( | 13:23 |
| Pici | :( | 13:23 |
| bazhang | augh | 13:33 |
| Pici | How pleasant. | 13:35 |
| * Pici slides jpds some megs | 15:25 | |
| jpds | Pici: gigglybytes please. | 15:25 |
| Pici | augh | 15:38 |
| * genii-around ponders gigglybytes and terrorbytes | 15:38 | |
| Pici | scary | 15:39 |
| genii-around | Interesting. I'd have thought there would be a !netbook | 18:13 |
| LjL | there is !eeepc... i'm afraid "netbook" is a bit generic to offer any specific help about it | 18:17 |
| Pici | UNE is going away anyway with 11.04 | 18:18 |
| maco | it didnt go away with 10.10? | 18:55 |
| gord | no | 19:15 |
| gord | 11.04 there is no netbook version of ubuntu, the desktop version will just adapt to small screen sizes | 19:15 |
| ubottu | In #ubuntu, semitones said: !o4o this is what it means > elementz | 19:33 |
| semitones | oops i didn't mean to do that | 19:34 |
| ubottu | WhiteP0W3R called the ops in #ubuntu () | 19:34 |
| semitones | wow, he's trying to ban himself | 19:35 |
| semitones | later | 19:35 |
| bazhang | severe troll outbreak in #ubuntu | 21:52 |
| maco | aww i was too slow to get my "don't come here if you don't like it" kick message in | 21:52 |
| bazhang | poooo looks to be next | 21:53 |
| LjL | ugh SMG killed | 22:25 |
| * LjL repeats for the nth time he finds idoru too sensitive :\ | 22:25 | |
| bazhang | and the spambot/spammer slipped through | 22:26 |
| LjL | and it's not like these people just get killed, they actually stay k-lined | 22:26 |
| LjL | i don't like this at all | 22:26 |
| bazhang | up23four | 22:26 |
| LjL | yeah i know | 22:26 |
| LjL | up23four didn't repeat the same line multiple times | 22:27 |
| LjL | that's mostly what triggers idoru | 22:27 |
| bazhang | aha | 22:27 |
| bazhang | he seems to have known how to get around it | 22:27 |
| marienz | LjL: we generally do try to catch these quickly (if they're question-repeaters they're usually unklined within minutes) | 22:31 |
| LjL | i know, but do you have statistics on how many you miss? | 22:31 |
| marienz | LjL: and I reviewed idoru kills the previous time this came up, and found far more legit klines than ones that were lifted | 22:31 |
| marienz | LjL: I do appreciate a prod on an innocent like what happened just now, to make sure they really are unklined, but I really think you should check idoru klines in #ubuntu for the last several weeks or months before deciding "far too sensitive", as it's the unfortunate accidents that stand out more than the correct ones | 22:32 |
| LjL | err, i don't find that enough, honestly | 22:33 |
| LjL | >50% are legit? that sounds scary | 22:33 |
| LjL | >95% legit, that would sound better | 22:33 |
| LjL | i mean, i've given extra-care to not making floodbots *mute temporarily* the wrong people... these get *k-lined* | 22:33 |
| marienz | also, I did withdraw idoru the previous time you brought this up, and was asked by people here to put her back, iirc. | 22:33 |
| Tm_T | 95 % is >50 % ... | 22:33 |
| LjL | Tm_T: right but you know what i meant | 22:33 |
| marienz | I don't have actual statistics in my head right now. I can do a quick check (again), if you like. | 22:33 |
| LjL | marienz: just tell me are we talking about just the majority, or the *vast* majority of legit ones? | 22:34 |
| * marienz reviews logs | 22:34 | |
| Tm_T | I rather have Idoru around | 22:34 |
| bazhang | same | 22:35 |
| LjL | well maybe i could just withdraw the floodbots, what use are they even | 22:35 |
| bazhang | layered protection | 22:36 |
| marienz | 5 obviously legit ones in my logs for the running month. 3 where I'd have to read more context to figure it out. 8ish questionable ones. This is worse than the last time I gathered statistics. | 22:42 |
| marienz | where I'm flagging things like "< ~Kentfordth> I NEED SMTP SERVER TO SEND JOBS" repeated 3 times within seconds as "questionable" | 22:42 |
| marienz | unfortunately idoru is not currently as per-channel tweakable as it'd ideally be | 22:44 |
| marienz | I think it'd make more sense to make her less sensitive on #ubuntu (especially when it comes to picking up on patterns she hasn't already seen) than to remove her outright | 22:45 |
| bazhang | yep | 22:45 |
| bazhang | anyone want to follow up with dave65? | 22:46 |
| LjL | well for now i've found 4 legit and 4 bad in my logs. reading on. | 22:46 |
| bazhang | he wants to push this "discussing the hotness of babes is A-OK" issue | 22:47 |
| bazhang | I suggested he join here to discuss, but no interest in doing so | 22:48 |
| LjL | well so far i've found 15 legit ones, 12 bad ones | 22:57 |
| LjL | of course that's among the ones where the banned people actually *spoke on #ubuntu*, mind | 22:57 |
| LjL | so i stay of my mind | 22:57 |
| LjL | http://paste.ubuntu.com/594660/ | 23:15 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: Just drop it. | 23:20 |
| IdleOne | drop what? | 23:20 |
| IdleOne | seriously? | 23:23 |
| IdleOne | did I offend you? | 23:23 |
| IdleOne | Did I cause anyone in the channel to be offended? | 23:23 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: It's not offensive, it's retarded. | 23:23 |
| IdleOne | thanks | 23:23 |
| IdleOne | you should of quieted the retard 20 minutes ago. | 23:24 |
| IdleOne | have* | 23:24 |
| IdleOne | anyway. | 23:24 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: He would've stopped had you not been 5 years old and kept going "nuh uh!" | 23:24 |
| IdleOne | I was trying to figure out what the hell he was talking about | 23:25 |
| IdleOne | maybe if we knew what his point was we could have an intelligent conversation about it | 23:25 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: No you werent. you were egging him on for the past five minutes | 23:25 |
| IdleOne | anyway thanks for calling me a retarded | 23:26 |
| IdleOne | in a logged channel | 23:26 |
| IdleOne | I would appreciate next time you message me insults | 23:26 |
| LjL | yes, that wasn't nice. | 23:26 |
| IdleOne | least in PM we can argue about it or not. | 23:27 |
| LjL | you're trying to hold users up to a higher standard, you're even trying (and God forbid you couldn't!) to hold ops us to a higher standard, and you call people retarded? | 23:27 |
| * LjL shakes head | 23:27 | |
| IdleOne | Here I am forced to shut my mouth because well it is the right thing for me to do | 23:28 |
| IdleOne | so I will shut up | 23:28 |
| Flannel | !appeals | IdleOne | 23:28 |
| ubottu | IdleOne: If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page. | 23:28 |
| LjL | Flannel: way to provoke him gratuitously | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | I don't to be given !factoids. I know them. I also don't intend on complaining to anyone about it. We could have taken this to PM. You could have just sent me a message saying something like " Dude, shut up" | 23:29 |
| IdleOne | need* | 23:29 |
| Flannel | IdleOne: What do you think "just drop it" was? | 23:30 |
| IdleOne | I asked you what | 23:30 |
| IdleOne | I wasn't egging him on. I did start when he said he likes to have the last word. | 23:30 |
| IdleOne | but anyway doesn't matter now. it's over | 23:31 |
| Flannel | Exactly. You started egging him on for no real reason except to act like a dick. | 23:31 |
| IdleOne | dude, you need to chill. | 23:31 |
| nhandler | Alright guys, this is over. Let's just drop it and go back to work. | 23:31 |
| bazhang | yep | 23:42 |
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