[03:15] <mneptok> rww: i'd keep up with the 13000 mailing lists and 6483534297536 channels, but i have a real life >:P
[03:16] <rww> only one IRC mailing list and fifteen channels!
[03:16] <mneptok> and a job. and conferences. and insane amounts of travel. and a wife ....
[03:17] <rww> get your wife to op here and share the reading!
[03:18] <mneptok> yeah, because her job managing an NIH grant laboratory affords her *TONS* of free time :)
[03:19] <mneptok> is Guest96463 an op i just don't recognize by ident/$REALNAME?
[03:20] <rww> for some reason my head is saying staffer
[03:20] <rww> I don't recognize them, though.
[03:20] <mneptok> rww: kickban and see if you earn another k: line >:)
[03:21] <rww> I maintain that I didn't earn the first one >.>
[03:21] <mneptok> rwww is now known as rww-bitter
[03:21] <mneptok> and don't change nicks back too quickly
[03:21] <rww> an imposter with extra wwwwwwwwwwwww
[03:22] <mneptok> the extra w is for extra weird
[03:27] <nhandler> Guest96463 appears to be SportChick, a staffer. But feel free to kick her until she gets back and identifies (she won't be offended) ;)
[03:27] <rww> rww's brain wins again.
[07:13] <bazhang> another odd question from pehden
[07:36] <rww> two weeks until natty release. are you all having fun yet O:)
[12:07] <Tm_T> ):
[12:26] <bazhang> bouma seems familiar
[13:01] <bazhang> liuzhongxiao suddenly understood english when I PM'd him
[13:02] <ikonia> shock horror
[13:02] <bazhang> wish ylmfos did not automatically point to #ubuntu
[13:03] <Pici> Well, since they only have a forum and not a bug reporting system, you can be my guest if you want to get them to change it ;)
[13:04] <bazhang> hehe
[13:23] <jrib> this is going to be frustrating :(
[13:23] <Pici> :(
[13:33] <bazhang> augh
[13:35] <Pici> How pleasant.
[15:25]  * Pici slides jpds some megs
[15:25] <jpds> Pici: gigglybytes please.
[15:38] <Pici> augh
[15:38]  * genii-around ponders gigglybytes and terrorbytes
[15:39] <Pici> scary
[18:13] <genii-around> Interesting. I'd have thought there would be a !netbook
[18:17] <LjL> there is !eeepc... i'm afraid "netbook" is a bit generic to offer any specific help about it
[18:18] <Pici> UNE is going away anyway with 11.04
[18:55] <maco> it didnt go away with 10.10?
[19:15] <gord> no
[19:15] <gord> 11.04 there is no netbook version of ubuntu, the desktop version will just adapt to small screen sizes
[19:34] <semitones> oops i didn't mean to do that
[19:35] <semitones> wow, he's trying to ban himself
[19:35] <semitones> later
[21:52] <bazhang> severe troll outbreak in #ubuntu
[21:52] <maco> aww i was too slow to get my "don't come here if you don't like it" kick message in
[21:53] <bazhang> poooo looks to be next
[22:25] <LjL> ugh SMG killed
[22:25]  * LjL repeats for the nth time he finds idoru too sensitive :\
[22:26] <bazhang> and the spambot/spammer slipped through
[22:26] <LjL> and it's not like these people just get killed, they actually stay k-lined
[22:26] <LjL> i don't like this at all
[22:26] <bazhang> up23four
[22:26] <LjL> yeah i know
[22:27] <LjL> up23four didn't repeat the same line multiple times
[22:27] <LjL> that's mostly what triggers idoru
[22:27] <bazhang> aha
[22:27] <bazhang> he seems to have known how to get around it
[22:31] <marienz> LjL: we generally do try to catch these quickly (if they're question-repeaters they're usually unklined within minutes)
[22:31] <LjL> i know, but do you have statistics on how many you miss?
[22:31] <marienz> LjL: and I reviewed idoru kills the previous time this came up, and found far more legit klines than ones that were lifted
[22:32] <marienz> LjL: I do appreciate a prod on an innocent like what happened just now, to make sure they really are unklined, but I really think you should check idoru klines in #ubuntu for the last several weeks or months before deciding "far too sensitive", as it's the unfortunate accidents that stand out more than the correct ones
[22:33] <LjL> err, i don't find that enough, honestly
[22:33] <LjL> >50% are legit? that sounds scary
[22:33] <LjL> >95% legit, that would sound better
[22:33] <LjL> i mean, i've given extra-care to not making floodbots *mute temporarily* the wrong people... these get *k-lined*
[22:33] <marienz> also, I did withdraw idoru the previous time you brought this up, and was asked by people here to put her back, iirc.
[22:33] <Tm_T> 95 % is >50 % ...
[22:33] <LjL> Tm_T: right but you know what i meant
[22:33] <marienz> I don't have actual statistics in my head right now. I can do a quick check (again), if you like.
[22:34] <LjL> marienz: just tell me are we talking about just the majority, or the *vast* majority of legit ones?
[22:34]  * marienz reviews logs
[22:34] <Tm_T> I rather have Idoru around
[22:35] <bazhang> same
[22:35] <LjL> well maybe i could just withdraw the floodbots, what use are they even
[22:36] <bazhang> layered protection
[22:42] <marienz> 5 obviously legit ones in my logs for the running month. 3 where I'd have to read more context to figure it out. 8ish questionable ones. This is worse than the last time I gathered statistics.
[22:42] <marienz> where I'm flagging things like "< ~Kentfordth> I NEED SMTP SERVER TO SEND JOBS" repeated 3 times within seconds as "questionable"
[22:44] <marienz> unfortunately idoru is not currently as per-channel tweakable as it'd ideally be
[22:45] <marienz> I think it'd make more sense to make her less sensitive on #ubuntu (especially when it comes to picking up on patterns she hasn't already seen) than to remove her outright
[22:45] <bazhang> yep
[22:46] <bazhang> anyone want to follow up with dave65?
[22:46] <LjL> well for now i've found 4 legit and 4 bad in my logs. reading on.
[22:47] <bazhang> he wants to push this "discussing the hotness of babes is A-OK" issue
[22:48] <bazhang> I suggested he join here to discuss, but no interest in doing so
[22:57] <LjL> well so far i've found 15 legit ones, 12 bad ones
[22:57] <LjL> of course that's among the ones where the banned people actually *spoke on #ubuntu*, mind
[22:57] <LjL> so i stay of my mind
[23:15] <LjL> http://paste.ubuntu.com/594660/
[23:20] <Flannel> IdleOne: Just drop it.
[23:20] <IdleOne> drop what?
[23:23] <IdleOne> seriously?
[23:23] <IdleOne> did I offend you?
[23:23] <IdleOne> Did I cause anyone in the channel to be offended?
[23:23] <Flannel> IdleOne: It's not offensive, it's retarded.
[23:23] <IdleOne> thanks
[23:24] <IdleOne> you should of quieted the retard 20 minutes ago.
[23:24] <IdleOne> have*
[23:24] <IdleOne> anyway.
[23:24] <Flannel> IdleOne: He would've stopped had you not been 5 years old and kept going "nuh uh!"
[23:25] <IdleOne> I was trying to figure out what the hell he was talking about
[23:25] <IdleOne> maybe if we knew what his point was we could have an intelligent conversation about it
[23:25] <Flannel> IdleOne: No you werent.  you were egging him on for the past five minutes
[23:26] <IdleOne> anyway thanks for calling me a retarded
[23:26] <IdleOne> in a logged channel
[23:26] <IdleOne> I would appreciate next time you message me insults
[23:26] <LjL> yes, that wasn't nice.
[23:27] <IdleOne> least in PM we can argue about it or not.
[23:27] <LjL> you're trying to hold users up to a higher standard, you're even trying (and God forbid you couldn't!) to hold ops us to a higher standard, and you call people retarded?
[23:27]  * LjL shakes head
[23:28] <IdleOne> Here I am forced to shut my mouth because well it is the right thing for me to do
[23:28] <IdleOne> so I will shut up
[23:28] <Flannel> !appeals | IdleOne
[23:29] <LjL> Flannel: way to provoke him gratuitously
[23:29] <IdleOne> I don't to be given !factoids. I know them. I also don't intend on complaining to anyone about it. We could have taken this to PM. You could have just sent me a message saying something like " Dude, shut up"
[23:29] <IdleOne> need*
[23:30] <Flannel> IdleOne: What do you think "just drop it" was?
[23:30] <IdleOne> I asked you what
[23:30] <IdleOne> I wasn't egging him on. I did start when he said he likes to have the last word.
[23:31] <IdleOne> but anyway doesn't matter now. it's over
[23:31] <Flannel> Exactly.  You started egging him on for no real reason except to act like a dick.
[23:31] <IdleOne> dude, you need to chill.
[23:31] <nhandler> Alright guys, this is over. Let's just drop it and go back to work.
[23:42] <bazhang> yep