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| Tyrone | hello | 03:01 |
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| Tyrone | need help here | 03:01 |
| Knightlust | what's the problem Tyrone? | 03:04 |
| Tyrone | can you speak bisaya? | 03:05 |
| Tyrone | or tagalog only? | 03:05 |
| Knightlust | not visaya though | 03:06 |
| Tyrone | i have a problem in my ubuntu | 03:06 |
| Knightlust | please describe your problem | 03:06 |
| Tyrone | meron ako ubuntu tapos layout ng internet ko ganina modem ubuntu tapos switch then pc | 03:08 |
| Tyrone | ang prob is yong pc na naka connect sa switch tapos switch inyo ubuntu ayaw magka internet | 03:08 |
| Tyrone | i tried everything pero ayaw parin | 03:09 |
| Knightlust | via ethernet? | 03:09 |
| Knightlust | naka-setup ba router/modem mo as dhcp? or static ip? | 03:10 |
| Terminus | hmmm... could be NAT misconfiguration, dhcp, or dns. | 03:10 |
| Knightlust | anong modem? from pldt ba? | 03:10 |
| Tyrone | opo | 03:11 |
| Tyrone | zyzel | 03:11 |
| Tyrone | zyxel | 03:11 |
| Knightlust | the same one that i have, pero i don't think it supports dhcp by default, i have to use a router | 03:11 |
| Knightlust | unless you hack it, are you sure na switch gamit mo? hindi router? | 03:12 |
| Tyrone | pero yong ubuntu ko meron internet | 03:12 |
| Tyrone | switch po | 03:12 |
| Tyrone | modem router na daw kasi tong modem ng pldt | 03:12 |
| Knightlust | yeah, pero supports only one connection at a time | 03:13 |
| Knightlust | it can't handle multiple connection without a switch | 03:13 |
| Knightlust | wait | 03:13 |
| Knightlust | so ung setup mo ganito: internet->modem->switch->ubuntu | 03:13 |
| Tyrone | nope internet modem ubuntu switch | 03:13 |
| Knightlust | *it can't handle multiple connection without a switch | 03:13 |
| Knightlust | *it can't handle multiple connection without a router | 03:14 |
| Knightlust | arrrgghhh | 03:14 |
| Tyrone | ganun ba | 03:14 |
| Knightlust | ok, so kelangan mo lang ng routing application | 03:14 |
| Knightlust | so ung ubuntu mo na ang magiging router where other pcs would connect via switch? right? | 03:15 |
| Tyrone | paano yon? | 03:15 |
| Tyrone | opoh | 03:16 |
| Knightlust | if that's the case, then try installing firestarter or guidedog | 03:16 |
| Knightlust | it'll handle your nat requirements | 03:16 |
| Knightlust | http://www.fs-security.com/docs/connection-sharing.php | 03:16 |
| lubot | Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/qzfe5 (URL by Knightlust) | 03:17 |
| Knightlust | http://www.simonzone.com/software/guidedog/manual/ | 03:17 |
| Tyrone | na try ko na po yan ayaw parin eh | 03:17 |
| lubot | Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/5ujdgvw (URL by Knightlust) | 03:17 |
| Knightlust | na-try mo na firestarter's nat? | 03:17 |
| Knightlust | Terminus: any ideas? | 03:17 |
| Knightlust | i don't have firestarter or guidedog installed, so i can't walk you through | 03:18 |
| Terminus | Knightlust: no easy ideas. i'd just throw iptables inside rc.local, configure dhcpd and named. and switch on ip forwarding. =) | 03:19 |
| Knightlust | but it might be overkill for Tyrone | 03:20 |
| Tyrone | i try ip forwarding ayaw eh | 03:20 |
| Terminus | Knightlust: that's why i said no easy ideas. =) | 03:20 |
| Knightlust | firestarter's the easiest i've tried back then, 3yrs to be exact | 03:20 |
| Knightlust | Tyrone: try mo muna basic setup ng firestarter | 03:20 |
| Knightlust | it should connect | 03:21 |
| Terminus | Knightlust: the first question would be, is the modem a zyxel p-600? is configured as a bridge or nat? you might end up with a double nat. | 03:21 |
| Tyrone | yes zyxel p600 | 03:21 |
| Knightlust | my p-600's configured by default as bridged | 03:21 |
| Knightlust | we need to hack it to enable nat, which pldt doesn't support | 03:22 |
| Terminus | the zyxel p-600 can also be configured as a router (not nat) but i wouldn't expect that on a home connection. | 03:22 |
| Terminus | IIRC, the password for the zyxel is just 1234. XD | 03:22 |
| Tyrone | p660 | 03:22 |
| Knightlust | Tyrone: ung pcs mo na naka-connect sa switch, configured ba to connect via dhcp? can it ping the ubuntu machine? | 03:23 |
| Tyrone | i can access the pldt | 03:23 |
| Tyrone | static po | 03:23 |
| Tyrone | internet cafe kasi to | 03:23 |
| Terminus | ah... so it has a static IP address. does it require PPPoE authentication or not? | 03:24 |
| Knightlust | heh, this conversation's reminiscent of my at&t call center days | 03:25 |
| Terminus | ROFL | 03:25 |
| Tyrone | in my general in wan | 03:25 |
| Tyrone | name internet | 03:25 |
| Tyrone | mode routing | 03:25 |
| Knightlust | Tyrone: ok, so it can ping the pldt box? then it's configured as a router | 03:25 |
| Tyrone | encapsulation ppoe | 03:25 |
| Knightlust | kasi kung naka-bridge yung pldt modem mo, hindi mo dapat mapi-ping yan e | 03:25 |
| Tyrone | tapos in nat setup naman | 03:26 |
| Terminus | yep. business dsl still use pppoe auth i think. we definitely use it here. | 03:26 |
| Tyrone | naka active network address translation tapos SUA only | 03:26 |
| Terminus | Knightlust: manually configuring the ip address while in bridge mode will allow you to access the CPE. =) | 03:27 |
| Terminus | yep. you'll end up with a double NAT if you use the linux box for NAT as well. not really the best thing to do. | 03:27 |
| Knightlust | yeah, but won't xyzel automaticall revert to router-mode once you ping(ed) it? | 03:27 |
| Terminus | Knightlust: nope. i've used it to fool around with the modems at home and here at the office. =) | 03:28 |
| Tyrone | any luck than i can use the ubuntu ? | 03:28 |
| Tyrone | by the way | 03:28 |
| Terminus | PLDT didn't leave me the PL number and password so DOM inspection to the rescue! XD | 03:28 |
| Tyrone | i want to ubuntu to ack as a squid proxy server | 03:29 |
| Knightlust | heh, good ol' google did it for me. but i did void the warranty | 03:29 |
| Knightlust | Tyrone: if you remove the ubuntu machine, can the other clients connect to the internet then? | 03:29 |
| Tyrone | yes | 03:30 |
| Knightlust | ok, so router-mode nga sya | 03:30 |
| Knightlust | then you'll need to read up on iptables | 03:30 |
| Tyrone | :( | 03:30 |
| Tyrone | nose bleed na ako sa ip table na yan | 03:30 |
| Tyrone | hahahahaha | 03:30 |
| Terminus | Tyrone: there is, but the configuration may be more complex. worst case scenario, you'll have to configure pass-through pppoe and have the linux box do the dialup. | 03:30 |
| Knightlust | if so, then why would you need a proxy server? | 03:30 |
| Knightlust | exactly, it'll be easier that way | 03:31 |
| Knightlust | or, are you trying to instead setup dansguardian? | 03:31 |
| Tyrone | because here in our internet cafe the online games will lag if somebody use youtube | 03:31 |
| Tyrone | nope | 03:31 |
| Knightlust | i see | 03:32 |
| Tyrone | i have just install squid | 03:32 |
| Tyrone | matanong ko lang pwd naba install teamviewer dito sa ubuntu 10.10? | 03:33 |
| Knightlust | have you tried guidedog? it may be more effective than firestarter | 03:33 |
| Tyrone | papaacess ko sana sainyo to check if the setup is right | 03:33 |
| Knightlust | afaik, there's a teamviewer client for ubuntu | 03:33 |
| Knightlust | can't at the moment, am currently at work | 03:33 |
| Knightlust | but if you setup the ubuntu box for ip passthru, would squid work? | 03:34 |
| Tyrone | yes | 03:35 |
| Knightlust | that's beyond me right now. i'll be at home by 6PM, i'll try guidedog or firestarter later | 03:36 |
| Tyrone | your from manila? | 03:36 |
| Knightlust | baguio | 03:37 |
| Tyrone | ahh cool | 03:37 |
| Tyrone | dati ako sa olongapo city | 03:37 |
| Tyrone | pero dito na ako sa cagayan de oro | 03:37 |
| Knightlust | nice. so, how's the weather? | 03:37 |
| Knightlust | hot, i assume | 03:38 |
| Tyrone | cloudy | 03:38 |
| Tyrone | not that hot..\ | 03:38 |
| Tyrone | Knightlust: by the way in my eth0 gawin ko ba dhcp? tapos yong eth 1 naka static tama po ba? | 03:38 |
| Terminus | good bandwidth control is typically a very complicated thing. | 03:39 |
| Knightlust | only if eth0 is the one that's connected to the modem | 03:39 |
| Tyrone | yes eth0 is connected to it | 03:40 |
| Knightlust | can the clients ping the ubuntu box? | 03:41 |
| Tyrone | no | 03:41 |
| Knightlust | ok, have you tried checking the their netmasks? | 03:41 |
| Knightlust | or subnet, or whatever term windows uses these days | 03:42 |
| Tyrone | ang ginawa kong ip ng eth1 is 192.168.1.34 sub 255.255.255.0 gateway wala.. | 03:43 |
| Knightlust | that may be the problem you have | 03:43 |
| Knightlust | ok, anong subnet ng clients mo? i would assume it's the same thing | 03:43 |
| Knightlust | er... any firewall installed on your ubuntu box? | 03:43 |
| Knightlust | another question, can the clients ping other clients | 03:44 |
| Knightlust | also, can the clients ping the pldt modem *with* the ubuntu box connected between the modem and the switch | 03:45 |
| Tyrone | not | 03:45 |
| Tyrone | no | 03:45 |
| Tyrone | they cant | 03:45 |
| Tyrone | the client ip add is 192.168.1.100 | 03:45 |
| Knightlust | can the clients ping each other? | 03:46 |
| Tyrone | hndi ko pa na try | 03:46 |
| Tyrone | isang pc palang kasi ni try ko kinabit eh | 03:47 |
| Knightlust | i see, nvm then | 03:47 |
| Knightlust | wait, lemme think this through | 03:47 |
| Tyrone | :) | 03:47 |
| Tyrone | sorry for disturbing you | 03:47 |
| Knightlust | np, still compiling anyway | 03:48 |
| Knightlust | ok, let's try basic troubleshooting | 03:49 |
| Knightlust | if only we could get the client to ping the ubuntu box | 03:50 |
| Knightlust | then methinks we'll be halfway through setting up your proxy server | 03:50 |
| Knightlust | but i see no reason not to be able to ping the ubuntu box, since it doesn't block icmp packets by default | 03:51 |
| Terminus | Knightlust: you're doing C++ dev? | 03:53 |
| Knightlust | Terminus: c++, php, java, python | 03:53 |
| Knightlust | but at the moment, i'm compiling mariadb | 03:53 |
| Knightlust | Tyrone: can you post the output of ifconfig -a | 03:54 |
| Knightlust | also netstat -rn | 03:54 |
| Knightlust | Tyrone: er.. use pastebin pala | 03:54 |
| Tyrone | Knightlust: can you use teamviewer to access my ubuntu? | 03:57 |
| Knightlust | i can, but not at the moment, i'm still at work | 03:58 |
| Tyrone | ah kk | 03:58 |
| Terminus | Knightlust: ah... was wondering why you were compiling. =) | 03:58 |
| Tyrone | anong oras pwd? | 03:58 |
| Knightlust | 6pm | 03:59 |
| Knightlust | more or less, depending on my workload | 03:59 |
| Knightlust | pero at the moment, i don't think it's an ubuntu config problem | 03:59 |
| Knightlust | more like misconfigured settings | 04:00 |
| Tyrone | maybe | 04:00 |
| Tyrone | walang prob sa ubuntu | 04:00 |
| Knightlust | Tyrone: if you use eth1 to connect to the modem and internet via dhcp, can it connect? | 04:01 |
| Tyrone | sa settings lang ata to para ma access ng ibang pc yong internet | 04:01 |
| Tyrone | yes | 04:01 |
| Knightlust | ok, did you use network manager to setup the static ip address? | 04:01 |
| Tyrone | yes | 04:02 |
| Knightlust | wait, i think there's a setting in nm that you need to check | 04:02 |
| Tyrone | ok | 04:03 |
| Knightlust | open it up, go to the ipv4 settings tab, click on the routes button | 04:03 |
| Knightlust | and then there's one little checkbox option at the bottom, forgot what it's called | 04:04 |
| Knightlust | google images fails me | 04:04 |
| Tyrone | ok wait | 04:05 |
| Tyrone | il turn my ubuntu | 04:05 |
| Knightlust | ayun, check the "use this connection for resources on its network" | 04:05 |
| Tyrone | kk im using my laptop | 04:05 |
| Knightlust | http://img259.imageshack.us/i/screenshoteditingipv4ro.png/sr=1 | 04:05 |
| lubot | Tiny URL: http://tinyurl.com/3f6ey83 (URL by Knightlust) | 04:05 |
| Knightlust | then try pinging the ubuntu box one more time | 04:06 |
| Knightlust | kung talagang ayaw, i'm out of ideas na | 04:06 |
| Tyrone | kk access mo lang mamaya ubuntu ko try ko install teamviewer para makita mo setup ng network interfaces ko | 04:08 |
| Knightlust | ok | 04:09 |
| Knightlust | see you later then, late na pala ako sa meeting | 04:09 |
| Knightlust | later guys | 04:09 |
| Tyrone | kk thanks | 04:11 |
| Tyrone | Terminus: youthere? | 04:13 |
| Terminus | Tyrone: yes? | 04:24 |
| Tyrone | my modem router mode is routing not bridge | 04:25 |
| Terminus | Tyrone: yep. i got that earlier. your configuration may require reconfiguring the modem as well. | 04:26 |
| Tyrone | ah ok | 04:27 |
| Tyrone | hllo | 06:48 |
| Tyrone | hello | 07:32 |
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| Tyrone | Knightlust: you there? | 09:29 |
| zakame | hola | 10:01 |
| zakame | I wonder if natty is good for NAT :P | 10:02 |
| rstacruz | why wouldnt it be? | 10:04 |
| Tyrone | hello zakame | 10:04 |
| Tyrone | thanks god your here | 10:04 |
| Tyrone | :) | 10:04 |
| Tyrone | sir pa help naman | 10:05 |
| zakame | hehe yeah it would be bad for natty if it couldn't do nat | 10:05 |
| zakame | sure what's the prob? | 10:05 |
| Tyrone | meron ksi ako ubuntu 10.10 | 10:05 |
| Tyrone | tapos setupko internet modem ubuntu switch then pc | 10:06 |
| Tyrone | kasu yong pc ayaw maka internet yong ubuntu lang | 10:06 |
| zakame | ubuntu as a switch? is the ubuntu a desktop or laptop? | 10:07 |
| Tyrone | desktop | 10:08 |
| Tyrone | intel board xeon proc | 10:08 |
| Tyrone | gagawin ko kasi sana proxy server | 10:08 |
| Tyrone | dito sa cafe namin | 10:08 |
| zakame | ahh | 10:08 |
| Tyrone | para yong mag youtube hndi mag lag online games | 10:08 |
| Tyrone | pwd po kita ma private chat? | 10:09 |
| zakame | looks like you want to do a network gateway | 10:09 |
| zakame | not just a switch | 10:09 |
| Tyrone | parang ganun na po | 10:09 |
| Tyrone | kasu nose bleed na ako eh | 10:09 |
| zakame | and maybe some traffic shaping too | 10:10 |
| Tyrone | sir gusto mo po ma kita meron teamviewr ako | 10:10 |
| zakame | pwede but I'm on mobile lol | 10:10 |
| Tyrone | hndi pala pwd ma install teamviewr sa ubuntu | 10:11 |
| Tyrone | :( | 10:11 |
| Tyrone | ganun po ba.. | 10:11 |
| zakame | no as in I'm on IRC via my phone hehe | 10:11 |
| zakame | I could give you a few pointers though | 10:11 |
| Tyrone | meron thn nag sabi sakin na maganda daw traffic shaping.. | 10:11 |
| Tyrone | ahh kk.. cgi2 il try | 10:12 |
| zakame | the first thing you have to make sure is that your ubuntu box is ready to do IP forwarding | 10:12 |
| Tyrone | how to know if its ready sir? | 10:13 |
| zakame | so you have to see that in /etc/sysctl.conf there's a line | 10:13 |
| zakame | net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 | 10:13 |
| zakame | alternatively you can check on a root prompt | 10:14 |
| zakame | e.g. sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward | 10:14 |
| zakame | it has to be set to 1 | 10:14 |
| zakame | so your ubuntu box can forward packets between interface | 10:14 |
| Tyrone | 0 po lumabas sir | 10:15 |
| Tyrone | (zero) | 10:15 |
| zakame | that means your box doesn't forward yet | 10:16 |
| Tyrone | how can i make it 1 sir? | 10:16 |
| Tyrone | sorry im new in ubuntu... | 10:16 |
| zakame | set it via sudo sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward=1 | 10:16 |
| Tyrone | done sir | 10:17 |
| zakame | check it again | 10:17 |
| Tyrone | its now 1 sir | 10:17 |
| zakame | cool | 10:17 |
| zakame | edit /etc/sysctl.conf to have that line (I think it is there already, just commented out) | 10:18 |
| zakame | so you don't lose that setting across reboots | 10:18 |
| Tyrone | its set to 1 sir | 10:19 |
| zakame | cool | 10:19 |
| Tyrone | nabuksan ko na conf | 10:19 |
| zakame | then next up is setting up iptables | 10:20 |
| Tyrone | :( | 10:20 |
| Tyrone | nose bleed ako jan.. | 10:20 |
| Tyrone | il just do my best... | 10:20 |
| Tyrone | ano next sir | 10:20 |
| zakame | iptables by itself is hard, but there's a bunch of packages in debian/ubuntu that ease it somewhat | 10:20 |
| zakame | what we use in the office here for example is shorewall | 10:20 |
| Tyrone | ? | 10:21 |
| Tyrone | pwd yan rin gamitin ko | 10:21 |
| Tyrone | o hndi pwd? | 10:21 |
| zakame | yeah you can use that, there's a package | 10:21 |
| Tyrone | what's the command sir to install it? | 10:21 |
| zakame | apt-get that, and in a little while you should have a simple shorewall running | 10:22 |
| zakame | apt-get install shorewall | 10:22 |
| Tyrone | by the way sir meron na pala na install na squid nito | 10:22 |
| Tyrone | ok lang ba? | 10:22 |
| zakame | no prob | 10:23 |
| Tyrone | done installing | 10:23 |
| zakame | cool | 10:24 |
| zakame | now here's a quickstart guide to set up a two-interface firewall doing forwarding from the modem to your lan: http://shorewall.net/two-interface.htm | 10:24 |
| zakame | I suggest you read it thoroughly first, then try it on the ubuntu box | 10:25 |
| zakame | you probably need to to set up dhcpd and a dns server later on that same machine as well | 10:25 |
| Tyrone | wew | 10:26 |
| zakame | so your client pc boxes can get IP addresses and resolve remote domains | 10:26 |
| Tyrone | nose bleed nanaman ako nito | 10:26 |
| Tyrone | hehehe | 10:26 |
| zakame | hehe | 10:26 |
| Tyrone | naka static ip mga pc dito sir | 10:26 |
| zakame | ah no need for dhcpd then | 10:26 |
| Tyrone | like from pc 1 to 15 ip nila 192.168.1.101 then 192.168.1.102 | 10:27 |
| zakame | ah | 10:27 |
| Tyrone | yan naka setup sakanila sir | 10:27 |
| zakame | looks like a 192.168.1/24 subnet | 10:27 |
| Tyrone | prang ganun sir | 10:27 |
| zakame | you'll need that info once you set the masq | 10:27 |
| Tyrone | sir kailangan ko ba type lahat andun sa site na binigay mo? | 10:29 |
| zakame | not really, like i said, read throughly and find what's really needed :) | 10:31 |
| Tyrone | ok | 10:31 |
| Tyrone | thank you.. | 10:31 |
| zakame | most important is that you set the /etc/shorewall/{zones,policy,masq} | 10:32 |
| Tyrone | kk il look for that | 10:34 |
| Tyrone | sir in eth0 wher the internet connected kailangan ba naka dhcp? then yong eth1 static? | 10:35 |
| zakame | yeah | 10:38 |
| Tyrone | ok | 10:39 |
| Tyrone | sir yong setup pala ng pldt modem is routing tapos pppoe | 10:40 |
| zakame | oh | 10:42 |
| zakame | I think you'llneed to replace eth0 then to use pppoe | 10:43 |
| zakame | if that in another interface | 10:43 |
| zakame | what does ifconfig -a say? | 10:43 |
| Tyrone | sir marami naka sulat eh | 10:44 |
| Tyrone | meron eth0 and eth1 | 10:44 |
| Tyrone | ano po kailangan nyo makita sir para yon nalang lagay ko dito | 10:46 |
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| === rstacruz- is now known as rstacruz | ||
| Tyrone | wew | 11:23 |
| Tyrone | ayaw parin | 11:23 |
| Tyrone | hahahaha | 11:23 |
| Tyrone | hello | 13:12 |
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| Tyrone | weEeeeEe love ubuntu hehee | 16:38 |
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