| jtatum | i'm addicted to their twitter. it's nice sitting in my quiet house in a quiet neighborhood reading about hookers and crack :) | 00:01 |
|---|---|---|
| jamalta | sorry i'm back | 00:02 |
| jtatum | wb | 00:03 |
| jamalta | tenderloin has a lot of gov't housing | 00:03 |
| jamalta | kdub: but that area is pretty expensive, my guess at least... | 00:04 |
| kdub | i dont know, i live down in the silicon waffle | 00:05 |
| jamalta | ahh | 00:05 |
| jamalta | waffle, lol.. | 00:05 |
| kdub | i'm still not sure how funny that joke is | 00:10 |
| * kdub wants a condo overlooking the padres stadium and the harbor | 00:11 | |
| kevin6888 | what santa monica? the silicon beach? | 00:14 |
| kevin6888 | blah, *is | 00:15 |
| kdub | san diego, sandiego, sandy eggo, sandy waffle | 00:15 |
| kdub | silicon waffle | 00:16 |
| kevin6888 | santa monica, santamonica, santam onica, silicon beach? | 00:20 |
| kevin6888 | ohhhh, silicon monica | 00:23 |
| kevin6888 | silicon angel | 00:23 |
| kevin6888 | reminds me of the radiohead song "fake plastic trees" | 00:24 |
| kdub | hah, at any rate, i don't think that joke will make it to my open mike night routine :P | 00:44 |
| quicksilver_ | Nothing works at open mic nights. | 01:18 |
| quicksilver_ | Poor souls are left tending to crowds waiting to hate them. | 01:18 |
| iheartubuntu | great ubuntu hour turnout today in Pasadena! 8 people | 02:58 |
| akk | Yay! | 02:58 |
| nuboon2age | hey all. Ubuntu Hour: San Jose is now aaditya aak pleai2 crashsystems1 outofjungle | 03:05 |
| nuboon2age | akk | 03:06 |
| akk | It is? oops, I didn't even hear about this one ... but I can't come, running an IRC gimp building session at 8. | 03:10 |
| aaditya | nuboon2age: would have been nice to attend, but I got caught up with tons of work this week. | 03:18 |
| pleia2 | san jose is always too far for me to go, but particularly today ;) | 03:19 |
| pleia2 | flying home saturday *sniff( | 03:20 |
| pleia2 | * | 03:20 |
| jtatum | visiting? | 03:20 |
| pleia2 | vacationing in puerto rico | 03:21 |
| jtatum | oh, i had it backwards! | 03:21 |
| jtatum | neat | 03:21 |
| pleia2 | MJ is here for a conference (which ended yesterday) | 03:21 |
| jtatum | i was just thinking, pleia2 | 03:21 |
| jtatum | 's been so quiet | 03:21 |
| pleia2 | hehe | 03:21 |
| pleia2 | beaches++ | 03:21 |
| jtatum | lol | 03:21 |
| pleia2 | actually today we went up to one of the forts in old san juan and did lots of touristing | 03:22 |
| pleia2 | anyway, near bedtime :) night all | 03:24 |
| nuboon2age | nighty night pleai2 | 03:25 |
| akk | Night, pleia2 --glad the vacation is going well! | 03:25 |
| nuboon2age | jtatum i and utkarsh ravi met last wee | 03:27 |
| nuboon2age | week and im her again with Utkarsh Ravi Dan and Kartic | 03:28 |
| akk | Hi everybody! :) | 03:28 |
| nuboon2age | hey akk! ;-) | 03:30 |
| nuboon2age | pleia2 the prez of SJSULUG is requesting we supply a bunch o U intu disks. they will be the driving for e behind this U untu Hour SJ | 03:39 |
| nuboon2age | they cross posted about tonight on their facebook site and got put yheir peeps tonight | 03:41 |
| nuboon2age | they had previously requested disks from ubuntu but had gotten red tape answer | 03:42 |
| nuboon2age | they gave out all the server copies i have them last week! | 03:43 |
| nuboon2age | they are really on the ball | 03:43 |
| akk | That's great! | 03:47 |
| nuboon2age | okay that was fun | 04:02 |
| nuboon2age | im out | 04:03 |
| jtatum | enjoy the launch tonight socal folks | 04:17 |
| jtatum | 9:24 PM | 04:18 |
| jtatum | unless it's too windy | 04:18 |
| jtatum | i'm gonna give it a shot from sunnyvale. there's a slight chance depending on visibility that i'll be able to see something | 04:19 |
| nuboon2age | maylin says hi | 04:41 |
| jtatum | hi | 05:00 |
| * akk waves | 05:01 | |
| jtatum | about 5 minutes to launch, not scrubbed yet | 05:18 |
| akk | Rocket launch, not natty beta launch, right? | 05:21 |
| jtatum | sorry about being confusing akk :) yes, rocket launch | 05:31 |
| akk | Did it launch? | 05:32 |
| akk | Did you get to see it? | 05:32 |
| jtatum | it launched. i guess i need to get somewhere higher, darker, and with less treeline next time. got spoiled by living a stones throw from cape canaveral | 05:35 |
| akk | That must have been amazing! | 05:35 |
| akk | I've only seen 1 or 2 rocket launches and they were all from quite far away (just a big contrail going up) | 05:36 |
| jtatum | it's pretty great. i hope we get back to manned spaceflight quick. | 05:50 |
| Algo | Sup dudes and dudettes! | 07:13 |
| The_Letter_M | Hello All | 08:56 |
| === dannyp_ is now known as d4nnyp | ||
| d4nnyp | hello | 09:14 |
| kevin6888 | gasho all | 17:36 |
| kevin6888 | i will say that i like the search dealy in unity | 17:37 |
| kevin6888 | the panel reminds me of docky | 17:37 |
| u_dp_ | hello | 17:38 |
| kevin6888 | hello | 17:39 |
| kevin6888 | how are you u_dp_ ? | 17:41 |
| u_dp_ | i'm great thanks | 17:41 |
| u_dp_ | looking into moving to ubuntu | 17:41 |
| kevin6888 | cool, have you tried it out yet? | 17:42 |
| u_dp_ | investigating alternative window managers | 17:42 |
| u_dp_ | yea, but it was a long time ago | 17:42 |
| u_dp_ | i didn't feel it was well enough developed then | 17:42 |
| kevin6888 | what do you use your computer for? | 17:43 |
| u_dp_ | world domination | 17:43 |
| u_dp_ | but i'm interested in doing more automation | 17:44 |
| u_dp_ | so looking for something nicer than | 17:44 |
| u_dp_ | dos batch scripting :) | 17:44 |
| u_dp_ | brb | 17:44 |
| u_dp_ | back | 17:45 |
| kevin6888 | world domination? can't really help you with that | 17:45 |
| u_dp_ | darn. | 17:46 |
| u_dp_ | i thought ubuntu specialized in this discipline | 17:46 |
| akk | ubuntu is great for scripting, though | 17:46 |
| akk | then the world domination part is just up to how well you write your scripts :) | 17:46 |
| u_dp_ | what wm's do you guys use? | 17:47 |
| kevin6888 | i've used pretty much all of them | 17:47 |
| u_dp_ | i'm looking at Xmonad | 17:47 |
| kevin6888 | fluxbox, xfce, lxde, kde, gnome | 17:47 |
| kevin6888 | well, haven't tried that one | 17:47 |
| kevin6888 | i used compiz stand alone for a bit | 17:47 |
| u_dp_ | ratpoison? | 17:47 |
| kevin6888 | i don't like poison | 17:48 |
| u_dp_ | generally or this wm? | 17:48 |
| kevin6888 | generally of course, hehe | 17:48 |
| kevin6888 | never tried ratpoison | 17:48 |
| akk | I use openbox./ | 17:49 |
| u_dp_ | http://www.nongnu.org/ratpoison/ | 17:49 |
| akk | I don't like maximizing windows, so ratpoison isn't for me | 17:49 |
| u_dp_ | ok from what i remember fluxbox and openbox were very similar | 17:49 |
| akk | I like to multitask and see 2-3 windows at once | 17:49 |
| u_dp_ | you can see 2-3 windows at once with ratpoison | 17:50 |
| u_dp_ | it just makes sure there is no gaps between the windows | 17:50 |
| akk | I thought it wanted everything maximized or at least tiled. | 17:50 |
| u_dp_ | well it doesn't seem like what you want | 17:51 |
| u_dp_ | so how do flux and open differ? | 17:51 |
| akk | I don't know, I confess. I like openbox's flexibility and focus handling, and also the community and support | 17:51 |
| akk | so I haven't spent much time with fluxbox to compare it. | 17:51 |
| u_dp_ | i see | 17:51 |
| iheartubuntu | nice to see you again last night kevin6888 - sorry i had to split early | 17:52 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: no problemo, i hung around for an extra 5 min but then left as well | 17:52 |
| kevin6888 | i really get the feeling that the LUGs at the Universities are pretty exclusive | 17:53 |
| kevin6888 | chromium is acting funny... | 17:54 |
| u_dp_ | brb | 17:54 |
| iheartubuntu | it wasnt too bad. i would have liked a period of time where the LUG could work with newbies and help them with their computers | 17:54 |
| iheartubuntu | i realize this IT recruiter had a big speech to give... but 2.5 hours long was getting boring | 17:55 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe other meetings they dont have talkers and people just mingle and do the comps and help each other | 17:55 |
| kevin6888 | yeah, and i'm all for finding a job, but while i was sitting there, i couldn't help realize that there was no way he would find me one | 17:55 |
| kevin6888 | well, it's in a classroom, the venue kind of restricts the options | 17:56 |
| kevin6888 | a hackerspace it is not | 17:56 |
| kevin6888 | which kind of makes sense, i think it's supposed to be more social...but...still, classrooms aren't really the best venues for promoting socializing | 17:57 |
| kevin6888 | i'm not complaining, i'm just looking for something different i think | 17:58 |
| akk | A lot of LUGs (and other clubs too) have the "one person gives a speech" format instead of "everybody sit around and hack". | 18:03 |
| akk | I guess maybe it takes pressure off, people can just veg out and listen, but I always thought a more participatory meeting would be more fun. | 18:03 |
| u_dp_ | back | 18:04 |
| u_dp_ | aak, i'm hosting an event which is more of a collaborative environment this saturday | 18:05 |
| u_dp_ | this particular event is for mobile app development | 18:05 |
| akk | I was in a car club that had a format of "announcements and club business, then a couple members talk about current projects for 5-10 minutes, the adjourn to the parking lot and stand around for another hour talking about whatever". | 18:05 |
| akk | Worked really well, but I haven't seen a science/tech club that does it that way. | 18:06 |
| u_dp_ | :D | 18:06 |
| iheartubuntu | wish we found those tunnels :D | 18:07 |
| akk | Tunnels? | 18:07 |
| * akk has fond memories of the caltech steam tunnels | 18:07 | |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: i couldn't live in them anyway, unless i figured out a way to forage for food :P | 18:07 |
| iheartubuntu | underneath caltech :) | 18:08 |
| iheartubuntu | kevin6888 there are foraging websites now to find all sorts of food on public land :) | 18:08 |
| u_dp_ | what steam tunnels??? | 18:08 |
| u_dp_ | :o | 18:08 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: i think you were right, we should have just explored the campus looking for the steam tunnels | 18:08 |
| kevin6888 | i wanted to do the responsible thing though, and actually show up | 18:08 |
| kevin6888 | akk: i have no memory of caltech steam tunnels :( | 18:09 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: link? the public land would have to be walking distance from me to be sustainable :| | 18:10 |
| iheartubuntu | akk - u went to caltech? | 18:12 |
| iheartubuntu | kev - will find u the links... two good sites | 18:12 |
| akk | iheartubuntu: No, but grew up in Alhambra and hung around with friends at Caltech. | 18:12 |
| iheartubuntu | busy doing day job... bean counter | 18:13 |
| iheartubuntu | ohhhhhhhhh cool! so u know the area | 18:13 |
| akk | (had a boyfriend whose dorm room was just around the corner from a steam tunnel entrance :) | 18:13 |
| kevin6888 | i'm starting to think i won't be a big fan of the steam tunnels now | 18:15 |
| iheartubuntu | aaaaahah!!!! so there are tunnels | 18:16 |
| kevin6888 | hehe | 18:16 |
| iheartubuntu | was walking by the dorms the other night with my wife posting flyers.... had a couple making out and ripping their clothes off :) haha | 18:17 |
| kevin6888 | were they secretly you and your wife? | 18:18 |
| iheartubuntu | that was later, in the bushes | 18:18 |
| u_dp_ | XD | 18:18 |
| * kevin6888 covers his eyes | 18:18 | |
| * iheartubuntu covers his eyes too | 18:19 | |
| u_dp_ | aw | 18:32 |
| nhaines | Hmm, I should flesh out my Upscale talk and do the LUG circuit again. | 18:36 |
| u_dp_ | sounds cool | 18:38 |
| u_dp_ | links to preso? | 18:38 |
| nhaines | Hmm, you know, I don't think I put it up. :) But I should. I should get the video online and the presentation up. | 18:39 |
| u_dp_ | thumbs up :D | 18:39 |
| nhaines | Let me get you a link to the presentation. | 18:39 |
| nhaines | u_dp_: Advocacy for Advocates: http://ubuntuone.com/p/mt6/ | 18:40 |
| u_dp_ | thank you sir | 18:41 |
| u_dp_ | hm, is the file really 86k? | 18:42 |
| nhaines | Sure, it's an OpenDocument Presentation file with only one graphic, and that's just an xkcd comic. | 18:42 |
| nhaines | It was a 5-minute talk, each slide auto advanced after 15 seconds. A lot of fun to do actually. :) | 18:43 |
| iheartubuntu | kevin6888 here is one site... http://neighborhoodfruit.com/ | 18:44 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: this oughta be good... | 18:45 |
| The_Letter_M | Good Morning everyone | 18:45 |
| u_dp_ | :) sounds like um.. ignite talks | 18:45 |
| iheartubuntu | there is another better one but i cant seem to find it | 18:45 |
| iheartubuntu | hello Letter M | 18:45 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: looks like it isn't quite there yet | 18:46 |
| kevin6888 | gasho The_Letter_M | 18:46 |
| nhaines | u_dp_: yeah, that's just what UpScale was modeled after. | 18:47 |
| The_Letter_M | So I went and bought me a Net Top just for Ubuntu | 18:47 |
| u_dp_ | :D | 18:47 |
| The_Letter_M | It runs really well | 18:47 |
| * iheartubuntu eats own dog food (peanut butter flavor) | 18:47 | |
| u_dp_ | i think i'm gonna buy a used thinkpad for ubuntu | 18:47 |
| nhaines | I'm waiting for a compelling tablet. | 18:47 |
| iheartubuntu | net top from sys76? | 18:47 |
| The_Letter_M | It's the new Acer Veriton with the Nvidia Ion 2 GPU | 18:48 |
| u_dp_ | The_Letter_M: which model did u get | 18:48 |
| u_dp_ | o | 18:48 |
| The_Letter_M | It came with Win 7 Pro, would I contact Acer or MS about getting money back on it | 18:49 |
| The_Letter_M | ?? | 18:49 |
| nhaines | The_Letter_M: Acer. | 18:49 |
| u_dp_ | agreed | 18:49 |
| nhaines | The_Letter_M: as far as Microsoft is concerned, you are not their customer at this point. | 18:49 |
| u_dp_ | yea acer is required to dump it on computers per their agreement | 18:49 |
| nhaines | The OEM (Acer) also has to provide any tech support. :) | 18:49 |
| nhaines | It's not so much that Acer must install it, just that an OEM with a volume license has to act as the point of contact for the customer. | 18:50 |
| nhaines | That's why retail boxes are so much more expensive--you're paying for support from Microsoft as well. | 18:50 |
| u_dp_ | well you're covering the overhead costs of the software licenses too | 18:51 |
| The_Letter_M | Ahh | 18:51 |
| The_Letter_M | True dat | 18:51 |
| iheartubuntu | http://blogs.laweekly.com/squidink/2010/05/foraging_in_los_angeles.php | 18:51 |
| iheartubuntu | http://www.fallenfruit.org/ | 18:52 |
| The_Letter_M | Here's a link of what I bought: http://www.walmart.com/ip/Acer-PS.VBH03.006/15571873 | 18:54 |
| The_Letter_M | Newegg doesn't have it on their site right now for some reason | 18:54 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: are you literally eating dog food? | 18:55 |
| u_dp_ | cool | 18:55 |
| akk | iceplant is edible? 8-o | 18:55 |
| u_dp_ | weird | 18:56 |
| u_dp_ | from what i know it's an invasive plant that's pretty hard to get rid of | 18:57 |
| u_dp_ | it's good for soil retention though on | 18:57 |
| akk | They don't mention the one native thing I know I can eat here, miner's lettuce ... maybe that isn't so common in SoCal. | 18:57 |
| akk | There's not much on that list that would sustain a person for long, though. | 18:57 |
| kevin6888 | hmmm, snails...i wonder how many snails i'd have to eat to survive | 18:57 |
| iheartubuntu | 24 a day. one per hour | 18:58 |
| iheartubuntu | i have eaten dog food before, yes | 18:59 |
| kevin6888 | i think it's safe to say, if you don't have your own land, you're going to have to eat other animals | 18:59 |
| kevin6888 | why would you do that iheartubuntu ? | 18:59 |
| iheartubuntu | try BG... Before Grain... excellent dog food! | 18:59 |
| iheartubuntu | it is designed to mimic the foods dogs would eat if in the wild | 19:00 |
| kevin6888 | how mysterious | 19:00 |
| kevin6888 | so it tastes like caribou or something? | 19:00 |
| iheartubuntu | there are some other very good natural dog foods... EVO is another one | 19:00 |
| nhaines | "Before Gain" sounds better than "Kitties and Grass". | 19:00 |
| iheartubuntu | hahahaaa | 19:00 |
| nhaines | s/Gain/Grain/ | 19:00 |
| kevin6888 | or scavenged lion meat? | 19:00 |
| iheartubuntu | price wise.... dog food is an excellent value for the money and it saves me a ton of money on TP | 19:01 |
| iheartubuntu | ok ok everyone im joking around :) | 19:02 |
| kevin6888 | i would think a bag of beans and bread would be cheaper | 19:03 |
| iheartubuntu | jeez | 19:03 |
| kevin6888 | quality dog food is pricey | 19:03 |
| kevin6888 | unless it's the dried stuff | 19:03 |
| kevin6888 | i wonder how hungry i would have to be to eat dog food | 19:03 |
| iheartubuntu | if only it had more flavor | 19:04 |
| kevin6888 | probably 2 days is my limit, before i'd pretty much eat anything | 19:04 |
| kevin6888 | when you're hungry, anything edible tastes good | 19:04 |
| iheartubuntu | we are taking IRC to a whole new level | 19:06 |
| nhaines | Dogs don't have a strong sense of taste and gain most enjoyment of their food by the smell, which is why dog food is aromatic but bland in taste. | 19:09 |
| u_dp_ | i'm having fun pretending to be extremely paranoid on #ubuntu-locoteam | 19:14 |
| u_dp_ | i explained that i didn't have a cd drive to install ubuntu | 19:16 |
| u_dp_ | and that my usb ports were epoxied for air gap | 19:16 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 19:16 |
| jtatum | trolling on irc is not cool :( | 19:16 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 19:17 |
| u_dp_ | how is it trolling i'm just curious to see who is more security minded than me :( | 19:17 |
| kevin6888 | maybe you should try #ubuntu-security u_dp_ | 19:17 |
| u_dp_ | will do | 19:17 |
| The_Letter_M | On the Aniverse IRC I once made the mistake of calling an Op an A-Hole | 19:18 |
| The_Letter_M | I was then banned for several months | 19:18 |
| kevin6888 | i doubt you have a level of paranoia that they won't be able to solve | 19:18 |
| nhaines | The_Letter_M: thus learning a valuable lesoon. | 19:18 |
| jtatum | because people are taking their unpaid time out to help you with your fictitious problem | 19:18 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 19:18 |
| u_dp_ | fiction is awesome though | 19:18 |
| kevin6888 | wait, i don't see the connection between cd, usb, and paranoia | 19:19 |
| kevin6888 | actually, some fiction is not awesome | 19:19 |
| u_dp_ | well i air gapped my desktop with a faraday cage | 19:19 |
| u_dp_ | :D | 19:19 |
| iheartubuntu | did it work | 19:19 |
| u_dp_ | hypothetically yes | 19:19 |
| u_dp_ | but my question is what's the best way to install ubuntu then | 19:20 |
| kevin6888 | hypothetically i can fly | 19:20 |
| iheartubuntu | att tech support once told me to build a wooden cage around my wifi box to fix my problems | 19:20 |
| jtatum | you claim you don't see how that's a troll, but i think you're trolling me too :) | 19:20 |
| iheartubuntu | i built a wooden cage around my wifi device | 19:20 |
| iheartubuntu | it worked | 19:20 |
| u_dp_ | apparently trolls are people who ask you how to be creative in solutions | 19:20 |
| u_dp_ | :( | 19:20 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe i created a faraday cage around it | 19:21 |
| iheartubuntu | hypothetically | 19:21 |
| u_dp_ | it worked to do what iheartubuntu? | 19:21 |
| u_dp_ | wooden boxes aren't faraday cages tho.. | 19:21 |
| iheartubuntu | an offshore worker from india told me to build a wooden cage around my wifi. i guess thats what they do there? | 19:21 |
| iheartubuntu | anyhow, it worked | 19:21 |
| u_dp_ | it worked to do what? make it extremely hot and not block emr? | 19:22 |
| iheartubuntu | for several years in fact, until i got an all in one DSL/wifi box | 19:22 |
| iheartubuntu | it was a cage, not realyl a box | 19:22 |
| u_dp_ | what else did you store in your wooden cage? | 19:22 |
| iheartubuntu | my children | 19:22 |
| iheartubuntu | i fed them dog food. in a tunnel. | 19:23 |
| iheartubuntu | i love IRC | 19:23 |
| u_dp_ | all this hypothetical stuff must be trolling | 19:23 |
| u_dp_ | The_Letter_M: i just saw the rating of that device 1 star :O | 19:24 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 19:24 |
| The_Letter_M | It's because the moron didn't know what they were buying | 19:24 |
| iheartubuntu | but i did build a wooden cage... http://sixty8doors.deviantart.com/gallery/?offset=48#/danxns | 19:25 |
| The_Letter_M | You can even see in the picture there is no optical drive | 19:25 |
| iheartubuntu | my bad... it was the dsl router, not the wifi | 19:25 |
| The_Letter_M | it's mostly Wal-Marts fault for not actually writing a description but copy/pasting one | 19:26 |
| u_dp_ | iheartubuntu: <3 | 19:26 |
| The_Letter_M | Like they wrote that it has a DVD Combo Drive and PS2 ports for the mouse and KB | 19:26 |
| u_dp_ | i admire both your art of irc manipulation and your woodwork | 19:28 |
| u_dp_ | The_Letter_M: you should one up that sad lonely star | 19:29 |
| u_dp_ | (and comment) | 19:29 |
| The_Letter_M | I did | 19:29 |
| u_dp_ | oh? | 19:30 |
| The_Letter_M | I gave a 5 star review and explained what people should know | 19:30 |
| The_Letter_M | but it has to go through a review process before it's public | 19:30 |
| u_dp_ | gotcha | 19:30 |
| u_dp_ | :) | 19:30 |
| The_Letter_M | Anyone else think Twitter is like a large passive IRC room? | 19:32 |
| u_dp_ | crap, i see iheartubuntu's brother built the box | 19:32 |
| u_dp_ | The_Letter_M: yeah, it's a testament to an increasing detachment from humanity | 19:33 |
| u_dp_ | when irc was, at inception a tool for connection for humans | 19:33 |
| The_Letter_M | yeah | 19:33 |
| akk | The_Letter_M: I view twitter in xchat via bitlbee, so it IS an IRC room to me. | 19:33 |
| The_Letter_M | lmao | 19:33 |
| The_Letter_M | interesting | 19:33 |
| The_Letter_M | but it does make sense | 19:33 |
| u_dp_ | still, that's an abstraction | 19:34 |
| u_dp_ | has anyone done any twitter bot work? | 19:35 |
| iheartubuntu | high radiation levels across the board in america now compared to when the earthquakes & disasters first hit | 19:36 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: define "high" | 19:42 |
| nhaines | No, better: what are the radiation levels? :) | 19:42 |
| iheartubuntu | i meant higher | 19:42 |
| iheartubuntu | whoops | 19:42 |
| iheartubuntu | radiationnetwork.com | 19:42 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont know if thats it | 19:42 |
| iheartubuntu | most all of those were in the low teens | 19:43 |
| iheartubuntu | im seeing 30s 40s and some 50s now daily | 19:43 |
| iheartubuntu | there is another link my brother in japan sent me... cant find it anytmore. a US gov site showing the daily radiation clouds coming from fukishima | 19:44 |
| u_dp_ | :/ | 19:46 |
| iheartubuntu | i also read a report than european health commission is advising people in europe not to eat euro meat or drink cows milk for 6 months. | 19:46 |
| iheartubuntu | they are a lot further away than we are | 19:46 |
| u_dp_ | thats crazy | 19:47 |
| nhaines | What unit of measure are they using? | 19:51 |
| kevin6888 | it is interesting, if things really went to hell in a handbasket how long would it take for the rest of us to find out? | 19:53 |
| kevin6888 | -? | 19:53 |
| The_Letter_M | iheartubuntu, do you listen to Alex Jones? | 19:56 |
| iheartubuntu | i have before yah | 19:57 |
| The_Letter_M | He's been talking about that | 19:57 |
| The_Letter_M | about veggies and milk in Europe and they won't eat them for 6 months | 19:58 |
| iheartubuntu | actually he in a round about way got me into ubuntu | 19:58 |
| The_Letter_M | and we're closer to Japan and our govt pretends everything is fine | 19:58 |
| The_Letter_M | oh? | 19:58 |
| kevin6888 | watt? that's mysterious | 19:58 |
| kevin6888 | let me grab another cola, do tell iheartubuntu | 19:59 |
| iheartubuntu | it was after katrina. someone sent me a video about bush/katrina.. it was an AJ video | 19:59 |
| iheartubuntu | woke me up to the government | 19:59 |
| akk | I'm a lot more worried about mercury and antibiotic resistance than about radiation from Japan. But worrying about things the gov't is ignoring is too much like a full-time job. | 20:00 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont trust any gov now :) | 20:00 |
| iheartubuntu | i cant listen to alex all the time though | 20:00 |
| iheartubuntu | he gets pretty hyped up | 20:00 |
| iheartubuntu | i like katherine albrecht a lot | 20:00 |
| iheartubuntu | im also interested in the gov controlling my food supply | 20:01 |
| iheartubuntu | and me growing my own food | 20:01 |
| The_Letter_M | but what about AJ got you into Ubuntu? | 20:01 |
| iheartubuntu | he talked about ubuntu and linux a few times back in 2005 i think it was | 20:01 |
| The_Letter_M | oh | 20:01 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont hear him talk about it anymore when i tune in | 20:01 |
| kevin6888 | i'm a libertarian socialist, i'm not sure i trust anybody :| | 20:01 |
| kevin6888 | except you guys of course | 20:01 |
| iheartubuntu | i didnt get into ubuntu though until 06 | 20:01 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 20:02 |
| The_Letter_M | Those contradict each other | 20:02 |
| kevin6888 | '06? i didn't get into it until '08 | 20:02 |
| The_Letter_M | the Libertarian Socialist thing | 20:02 |
| kevin6888 | you've been using ubuntu longer than i have... | 20:02 |
| nhaines | I got into Ubuntu in May 2005. | 20:02 |
| kevin6888 | i used to think that too The_Letter_M | 20:02 |
| u_dp_ | i was into bsd before ubuntu was born | 20:02 |
| iheartubuntu | i like the dont tread on me philosophy. let people be | 20:02 |
| kevin6888 | i tried BSD when i was a teenager, couldn't get x working and abandoned it | 20:03 |
| u_dp_ | lol | 20:03 |
| iheartubuntu | did we get anyone from cal state LA last night? | 20:03 |
| kevin6888 | it didn't like my trident video card :( | 20:03 |
| kevin6888 | was chris from cal state la? | 20:04 |
| The_Letter_M | I got into Linux in 96 with Mandrake 6.0 | 20:04 |
| iheartubuntu | i think he was from another planet | 20:04 |
| The_Letter_M | I had a copy of Slackware and Turbo linux sometime before that, but never tried them | 20:04 |
| iheartubuntu | whats wierd is it felt like i had met him before in a past life | 20:05 |
| kevin6888 | i installed linux for the first time in like 2000 when i was network admin/ a/v jr. engineer at a small company i worked for | 20:05 |
| u_dp_ | what meeting were you guys at? | 20:05 |
| kevin6888 | so cal here, LA | 20:05 |
| u_dp_ | i see | 20:05 |
| u_dp_ | i was at one last night to, san jose, ca | 20:05 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: that is mysterious | 20:05 |
| kevin6888 | u_dp_: did you see Drew? i haven't met him, but he seems cool | 20:06 |
| u_dp_ | yes i met him :) | 20:06 |
| u_dp_ | i wasn't sure it was the same guy | 20:06 |
| u_dp_ | he had cornrows instead of big hair | 20:06 |
| kevin6888 | i was in SF for a little while, i should've went to another meet up aside from just SF | 20:07 |
| u_dp_ | what's his alias on here? | 20:07 |
| u_dp_ | just Drew? | 20:07 |
| kevin6888 | but i was worn out | 20:07 |
| u_dp_ | there's one next week in mountainview | 20:07 |
| kevin6888 | i dunno, he hasn't been on in awhile. it used to be nuboon2age i think | 20:07 |
| u_dp_ | ah | 20:07 |
| akk | he was on as nuboon2age yesterday or the day before | 20:08 |
| The_Letter_M | kevin6888, you never explained your Libertarian / Socialist thing | 20:08 |
| kevin6888 | akk: ah, maybe i just haven't been paying enough attention | 20:09 |
| kevin6888 | well, i wasn't on last night | 20:09 |
| The_Letter_M | Lib want small minimal govt and Soc want big govt that micro manage everything | 20:09 |
| kevin6888 | The_Letter_M: i got it from Noam Chomsky, pondered it, and was like "hey yeah." | 20:09 |
| The_Letter_M | Care to pass it on then? | 20:10 |
| The_Letter_M | enlighten us | 20:10 |
| kevin6888 | hmmm, i'm not really sure that i can | 20:10 |
| kevin6888 | i think i just see it as something flexible and adaptable | 20:11 |
| u_dp_ | i don't think it's as categorical as you're making it The_Letter_M | 20:11 |
| kevin6888 | the rigidity of politics is one of the problems | 20:11 |
| kevin6888 | i have considered that "libertarian socialism" is simply "anarchy", but that doesn't quite work | 20:12 |
| u_dp_ | i just see socialism as the flattening of heirarchies | 20:12 |
| kevin6888 | i might call it "pragmatism" but that is boring | 20:12 |
| kevin6888 | nobody cares if you say "pragmatism" | 20:12 |
| kevin6888 | besides, finding out what actually works is probably somewhat painful | 20:12 |
| kevin6888 | u_dp_: interesting. hadn't heard that before | 20:12 |
| u_dp_ | well what i mean is | 20:13 |
| u_dp_ | instead of it being: libertarian minimal govt & socialism big government | 20:13 |
| iheartubuntu | there was a communist chinese at my wifes accounting meeting the other day and they were having a discussion... he says big companies like facebook should be nationalized and no one really said anything except my wife | 20:13 |
| u_dp_ | it seems to me it's | 20:13 |
| iheartubuntu | who grew up in SU | 20:13 |
| u_dp_ | SU? | 20:14 |
| iheartubuntu | soviet union | 20:14 |
| The_Letter_M | not I | 20:14 |
| u_dp_ | oh | 20:14 |
| The_Letter_M | I'm from the East Bay | 20:14 |
| The_Letter_M | born and raised | 20:14 |
| iheartubuntu | so the chinese guy was saying when companies get THAT BIG they should be sharing the wealth | 20:14 |
| kevin6888 | well, something like facebook should be given to the people... | 20:14 |
| kevin6888 | how to do that is the problem i guess | 20:15 |
| kevin6888 | i dunno, i don't really think much on politics anymore | 20:15 |
| kevin6888 | it's a whole lots of "blahs" | 20:15 |
| iheartubuntu | if i built my own company and made billions, i would not be thrilled with someone taking it from me | 20:15 |
| The_Letter_M | ditto | 20:16 |
| u_dp_ | cuz you're capitalists | 20:16 |
| The_Letter_M | I can handle giving money to charity | 20:16 |
| The_Letter_M | but I can't handle the govt taking my money and calling it "charity" | 20:16 |
| nhaines | The_Letter_M: you've been voluntold. | 20:17 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 20:17 |
| u_dp_ | :D | 20:17 |
| iheartubuntu | even Ubuntu being free, has a business plan | 20:17 |
| iheartubuntu | its great that it is free, but in order to sustain itself it needs other revenue sources | 20:18 |
| The_Letter_M | Whenever I hear about govt getting into an industry like healthcare | 20:18 |
| iheartubuntu | and i think it works out great actually. | 20:18 |
| The_Letter_M | I think of those angry mexican women at the DMV who don't speak much english and treat me like crap | 20:18 |
| iheartubuntu | cloud computing like U1 is smart | 20:18 |
| u_dp_ | what do the mexican workers at dmv have to do with healthcare? | 20:19 |
| nhaines | iheartubuntu: you're thinking about Canonical, not Ubuntu. | 20:19 |
| iheartubuntu | i dont really think about mexican people. | 20:19 |
| The_Letter_M | I picture them at the front desk when I go to the hospital | 20:19 |
| iheartubuntu | our jobs are going to chinese people who make $1 a day | 20:19 |
| The_Letter_M | and they just walk away saying "I'm on break, talk to somebody else" | 20:19 |
| iheartubuntu | im not worried about mexicans or other nationalities here trying to make a living | 20:19 |
| kevin6888 | canonical is a subset of ubuntu | 20:19 |
| The_Letter_M | I'm not trying to single them out | 20:20 |
| u_dp_ | 3 conversations 1 stream, threading, priceless | 20:20 |
| nhaines | kevin6888: no it's not. | 20:20 |
| The_Letter_M | but when I got my drivers license, I went to the DMV in Pittsburg and they have all these latina women that work there | 20:20 |
| kevin6888 | nhaines: i hear you | 20:20 |
| u_dp_ | dude | 20:20 |
| nhaines | kevin6888: no you don't. | 20:20 |
| u_dp_ | that's all because of capitalism | 20:20 |
| kevin6888 | :) | 20:21 |
| The_Letter_M | My dad was there renewing registration and had been in line for 3 hours | 20:21 |
| u_dp_ | how are you going to convince some american workers to go work at a dmv for min wage | 20:21 |
| The_Letter_M | he was next in line and it hit 6 o'clock | 20:21 |
| u_dp_ | yeah that's a government organization issue | 20:21 |
| The_Letter_M | so she shut the window in his face and was like "screw you" | 20:21 |
| u_dp_ | statewide | 20:21 |
| kevin6888 | i'd work at dmv for min wage | 20:21 |
| kevin6888 | people don't realize how high min wage is, until they don't have anything to eat | 20:21 |
| u_dp_ | so do it | 20:21 |
| kevin6888 | they aren't hiring | 20:22 |
| u_dp_ | i don't understand the indignation of outsourcing when no one is willing to work for that wage there | 20:22 |
| u_dp_ | here* | 20:22 |
| kevin6888 | i would | 20:22 |
| kevin6888 | $10/hr is great when you've been unemployed for as long as i have | 20:22 |
| The_Letter_M | lol | 20:23 |
| u_dp_ | who said anything about $10 an hour | 20:23 |
| kevin6888 | but for some reason, companies aren't hiring at that rate | 20:23 |
| The_Letter_M | Average pay where I live now in Utah is $9 an hour | 20:23 |
| kevin6888 | that's what an indian with a degree in comp sci makes on average | 20:23 |
| kevin6888 | i think my experience and degree in info sys is equivalent to that | 20:23 |
| u_dp_ | yeah that has a masters degree | 20:23 |
| kevin6888 | not what i heard | 20:23 |
| * kevin6888 shrugs | 20:23 | |
| kevin6888 | could be though | 20:24 |
| u_dp_ | i think about that in terms of volume | 20:24 |
| u_dp_ | they gear their youth for primarily one of two positions | 20:24 |
| u_dp_ | engineering or medicine | 20:24 |
| The_Letter_M | or call centers | 20:25 |
| u_dp_ | and at their volume, think of how much it compares to here | 20:25 |
| kevin6888 | competition is crazy there | 20:25 |
| u_dp_ | yeah i think that stuff filters out of having large numbers of engineers running tech companies | 20:25 |
| kevin6888 | i heard something on npr, when i was interviewing at Disneyland | 20:25 |
| u_dp_ | we have like some small percent of our micro population compared to there | 20:25 |
| kevin6888 | it was like the interview, just to ween out the rest, was like something out of jeopardy | 20:25 |
| u_dp_ | yea think about testing in a 98 percentile of the number of applicants they have | 20:26 |
| kevin6888 | that's why i wish i had taken food sources more seriously | 20:26 |
| kevin6888 | if they have the jobs, they probably get the food too | 20:26 |
| u_dp_ | yea | 20:27 |
| kevin6888 | which just increases the cost of oil... | 20:28 |
| u_dp_ | hah | 20:28 |
| u_dp_ | vicariously | 20:28 |
| kevin6888 | but then, i'm not really a fan of importing food either, doesn't seem sustainable | 20:28 |
| u_dp_ | but many things increase the cost of oil | 20:28 |
| kevin6888 | not without renewable energy | 20:28 |
| u_dp_ | which is leveraged by war deb | 20:28 |
| u_dp_ | debt | 20:29 |
| u_dp_ | (and paid for) | 20:29 |
| kevin6888 | maybe the goal is to have 1/2 the population working for DOD | 20:29 |
| kevin6888 | dept | 20:29 |
| kevin6888 | oh, debt | 20:29 |
| kevin6888 | i see | 20:29 |
| kevin6888 | i'm going to check dmv's website, just for the hell of it | 20:29 |
| u_dp_ | yeah importing is a luxury in some cases | 20:30 |
| u_dp_ | i wonder if logistics companies know the real cost of their transportation | 20:30 |
| u_dp_ | i mean i think we all sort of do | 20:30 |
| u_dp_ | just like our own transportation | 20:30 |
| u_dp_ | but we don't think of it outside of aggregates | 20:30 |
| u_dp_ | in individuals the contributions are seemingly miniscule | 20:30 |
| buddyjr | we don't think of it until it directly affects us | 20:32 |
| kevin6888 | it directly affects me, so i think about it | 20:33 |
| iheartubuntu | there is a DEB for war? | 20:36 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: yeah, the total annihilation rts | 20:37 |
| kevin6888 | i forget what it's called already | 20:37 |
| kevin6888 | the package, that is | 20:37 |
| iheartubuntu | kev - i used to a have a friend whos sister worked at disneyland... she never had a reg work hour. she had to call every night before to see if she was on the work list for the next day | 20:37 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: yeah, i think i heard that | 20:38 |
| kevin6888 | well, gives me more time to meditate | 20:38 |
| kevin6888 | speaking of which, i should get my move on | 20:38 |
| iheartubuntu | to where? | 20:39 |
| kevin6888 | to locations within this room | 20:40 |
| iheartubuntu | ok :) | 20:40 |
| kevin6888 | movement | 20:40 |
| iheartubuntu | at high speed? | 20:40 |
| kevin6888 | nah, probably not | 20:40 |
| iheartubuntu | natty seems more stable after recent updates | 20:41 |
| iheartubuntu | i still cant get my invest panel app working | 20:41 |
| iheartubuntu | ahhhh mcdonalds | 20:44 |
| iheartubuntu | ahhhhh now i cant breathe | 20:44 |
| iheartubuntu | i think the lug helped the turnout of the pasadena ubuntu hour | 20:46 |
| iheartubuntu | what, 4 of us were from ubuntu here, 3 from the lug mailing list and 1 guy somehow found us on the net or from the flyers | 20:47 |
| u_dp_ | haha | 20:49 |
| u_dp_ | that last guy could have been from the steam tunnels whilest escaping from their wooden faraday cage whose job was outsourced for $1 to workers in china | 20:51 |
| iheartubuntu | we could start an ubuntu/foraging/tunneling meetup | 20:52 |
| iheartubuntu | that pretty much summed up this chat u_dp_ | 20:52 |
| kevin6888 | i would be interested in this iheartubuntu | 20:52 |
| kevin6888 | "parkour at caltech" | 20:52 |
| iheartubuntu | yesterday included topics such as ravi shankar and yogi mystics | 20:53 |
| kevin6888 | oh yeah, i realized something aquaman is good for. flow. :) | 20:53 |
| iheartubuntu | haha | 20:53 |
| u_dp_ | as in vaginal or digital? | 20:54 |
| u_dp_ | i don't know the context of this aquaman | 20:54 |
| kevin6888 | as in oceans and seas | 20:55 |
| kevin6888 | The Aquaman | 20:55 |
| kevin6888 | DC | 20:55 |
| u_dp_ | like the hero? | 20:55 |
| u_dp_ | :D | 20:55 |
| kevin6888 | yeah | 20:55 |
| u_dp_ | well the operative word i was working on was "flow" not aquaman | 20:55 |
| u_dp_ | as it should be assumed that aquaman is based on the dc character of the same name | 20:56 |
| kevin6888 | well yesterday i said aquaman was irrelevant | 20:56 |
| kevin6888 | relative to superman's flight and batman's resourcefulness | 20:56 |
| kevin6888 | wrt something iheartubuntu said about 'vision' | 20:56 |
| u_dp_ | i thought mcguyver was resourceful | 20:56 |
| kevin6888 | Deadpool realized he was in a comic book | 20:56 |
| kevin6888 | what if we are too :o | 20:57 |
| u_dp_ | is that even a question | 20:57 |
| kevin6888 | oh yeah, didn't he have an ipad? | 20:57 |
| iheartubuntu | i will be attending a new tv show taping tonite. i have no idea what its about | 20:57 |
| u_dp_ | seems so rhetorical it must be true | 20:57 |
| kevin6888 | there is no ? | 20:57 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: ok | 20:58 |
| iheartubuntu | it better be good | 20:58 |
| u_dp_ | kevin6888: must be true | 20:58 |
| kevin6888 | all right, new project, unless i forget in the next 10 min while working on my bot: get wireless set up without nm-applet | 20:58 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe i can give some ubuntu discs to the actors and actresses | 20:58 |
| u_dp_ | what bot? | 20:58 |
| kevin6888 | u_dp_: we better start learning what it is we're fighting for then | 20:59 |
| kevin6888 | u_dp_: some perl bot | 20:59 |
| kevin6888 | without nm-applet = without gnome | 20:59 |
| iheartubuntu | i saw a corel painter at the bookstore the other day. does ubuntu have anything similar? krita maybe? | 21:00 |
| kevin6888 | painter? how is that different from gimp? | 21:00 |
| iheartubuntu | you can have a clean desktop if you turn off your computer! | 21:00 |
| iheartubuntu | apparently corel painter has realistic brushes an such | 21:00 |
| iheartubuntu | i have never used it | 21:00 |
| kevin6888 | ah, realistic brushes, interesting | 21:01 |
| iheartubuntu | maybe there are extra brushes for gimp out on the net | 21:01 |
| kevin6888 | so, say tomorrow ubuntu gets 99% market share | 21:01 |
| iheartubuntu | im listening | 21:01 |
| kevin6888 | would then all the hardware companies fork it? | 21:01 |
| iheartubuntu | fork you | 21:01 |
| kevin6888 | there is no fork | 21:02 |
| iheartubuntu | all companies would have to, right? | 21:02 |
| kevin6888 | i dunno, but they may want to | 21:02 |
| kevin6888 | hmmm, maybe not | 21:03 |
| u_dp_ | are you trolling? | 21:03 |
| u_dp_ | ;) | 21:03 |
| * iheartubuntu hates when people give me youtube links that go full size | 21:04 | |
| * iheartubuntu hates trollers | 21:04 | |
| iheartubuntu | tro lo lo 'ers are ok tho | 21:05 |
| iheartubuntu | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNxygsLGHSQ | 21:05 |
| kevin6888 | i don't ever troll, actually | 21:05 |
| u_dp_ | sounds convincing | 21:06 |
| kevin6888 | i think trolling requires intent | 21:06 |
| u_dp_ | someone just gave me some salesforce app programming book | 21:06 |
| kevin6888 | you couldn't get flash working in natty iheartubuntu ? | 21:06 |
| u_dp_ | what do you guys think of the cloud stuff ubuntu is getting into? | 21:07 |
| iheartubuntu | "I want this song to greet me when I go to heaven" | 21:07 |
| u_dp_ | i just read a little about it last night | 21:07 |
| iheartubuntu | i use ubuntuone | 21:07 |
| u_dp_ | it's kinda like dropbox + mobileme? | 21:07 |
| kevin6888 | i dunno why, but this dude reminds me of human trafficing | 21:08 |
| iheartubuntu | he invented tro'lling :) | 21:08 |
| kevin6888 | iheartubuntu: i think you found the new "rick rolled" video | 21:08 |
| iheartubuntu | i want this song to come on when i receive mail in my inbox | 21:09 |
| kevin6888 | i gotta' find something like the alarm i have on my phone | 21:09 |
| kevin6888 | it's all peaceful and junk | 21:09 |
| kevin6888 | makes me think i'm laying on a beach in Cuba or something :P | 21:10 |
| iheartubuntu | the tro lo lo man is almost a form of meditation seidos | 21:11 |
| iheartubuntu | if you too sing along you can become one | 21:11 |
| iheartubuntu | ho ho hoo! | 21:11 |
| * iheartubuntu needs to download tro lo lo man and put the video on loop | 21:11 | |
| iheartubuntu | la la laaaaa la laa la | 21:12 |
| kevin6888 | er, that is some object of meditation you got there iheartubuntu | 21:12 |
| kevin6888 | unfortunately, if you're away from your computer... | 21:12 |
| iheartubuntu | you can always walk down the street singing it | 21:12 |
| iheartubuntu | im ure you would put a smile on peoples faces | 21:13 |
| iheartubuntu | sure | 21:13 |
| kevin6888 | hey, cool, "always on top" + resized terminal is like an "omni bar" of sorts | 21:13 |
| iheartubuntu | then, hand them an ubuntu disc | 21:13 |
| kevin6888 | i really better not | 21:13 |
| kevin6888 | people don't want to hear acapella music | 21:13 |
| iheartubuntu | ok, we can sing together | 21:13 |
| kevin6888 | especially from me | 21:13 |
| iheartubuntu | we can get an entire community to sing it all at once. it could be the next thing | 21:14 |
| kevin6888 | well...perhaps not especially | 21:14 |
| * iheartubuntu will use tro lo lo singing in next ubuntu ad | 21:14 | |
| kevin6888 | i will forget the lyrics | 21:14 |
| iheartubuntu | is using clipgrab to capture the vid and will loop it the rest of today. im curious if my co-workers will get sick of it | 21:15 |
| kevin6888 | hmmm, i should download a debian iso | 21:16 |
| kevin6888 | i wonder if i could make a live usb from it | 21:16 |
| kevin6888 | using startup disc creator | 21:16 |
| iheartubuntu | the one in ubuntu? | 21:17 |
| kevin6888 | that's the only "usb startup disc creator" i know of | 21:19 |
| buddyjr | i tried dd, but i've never gotten that to work | 21:20 |
| kevin6888 | buddyjr: shhh | 21:20 |
| akk | dd works with fedora but not with ubuntu. | 21:20 |
| buddyjr | it's worked for you personally, akk ? | 21:20 |
| akk | yep | 21:20 |
| kevin6888 | i didn't know you used fedora akk | 21:21 |
| kevin6888 | you do it with the iso file, right? | 21:21 |
| akk | I needed a live usb stick, and fedora let me create one, ubuntu wouldn't. | 21:21 |
| kevin6888 | i don't understand | 21:21 |
| akk | The ubuntu ways all assume you're running a gnome desktop of the same ubuntu version you're trying to burn. | 21:21 |
| kevin6888 | so all you had was a terminal, and you got the fedora one working | 21:22 |
| u_dp_ | lunch time peeps | 21:22 |
| u_dp_ | cya | 21:22 |
| akk | yep, just a simple dd and I had a bootable usb stick. | 21:22 |
| kevin6888 | i did this: dd if=F12-Live-i686.iso of=/dev/sdb1 bs=8M | 21:23 |
| akk | Last time I tried to do that with ubuntu I spent about 4 hours trying 3 different methods and finally gave up. | 21:23 |
| kevin6888 | whoa, that's weird | 21:23 |
| kevin6888 | fedora 12? | 21:23 |
| akk | can't remember -- it was probably a little under a year ago | 21:23 |
| kevin6888 | i got that off the fedora website | 21:23 |
| kevin6888 | rats | 21:24 |
| akk | I thought I remembered dd to /dev/sdb, not sdb1 | 21:24 |
| akk | since it needs a boot block | 21:24 |
| kevin6888 | hmmm, that would explain why the original was "sdX" or something | 21:24 |
| kevin6888 | i'll try that | 21:24 |
| kevin6888 | i'm going to see about installing debian first though | 21:24 |
| kevin6888 | thanks akk | 21:24 |
| kevin6888 | for the info | 21:25 |
| kevin6888 | i'll thank you again if it works :) | 21:25 |
| akk | yeah, there was no 1. Here's what I did: http://shallowsky.com/blog/linux/install/fedora-live-usb.html | 21:25 |
| kevin6888 | yeah, saw that | 21:39 |
| kevin6888 | i'm going to try it after i look at these dmv exams | 21:39 |
| kevin6888 | it looks like i don't have enough experience to be a dmv custodian :| | 21:39 |
| iheartubuntu | Lake Arrowhead sounds like a nice place to relax this weekend | 21:44 |
| * iheartubuntu is curious what The_Letter_M stand for | 21:45 | |
| kevin6888 | the Letter M was a movie | 21:47 |
| kevin6888 | German foreign flick | 21:47 |
| iheartubuntu | kevin what was this genius movie?? | 21:47 |
| kevin6888 | "real genius" | 21:48 |
| kevin6888 | 80s flick | 21:48 |
| kevin6888 | one of my favorites, really | 21:48 |
| iheartubuntu | i will have to watch it again | 21:48 |
| kevin6888 | yeah, if you have time | 21:49 |
| kevin6888 | have you ever gotten wireless working from a terminal iheartubuntu ? | 21:49 |
| iheartubuntu | ive never tried | 21:49 |
| kevin6888 | i am thinking if i can get that working, i should be able to configure my own iso | 21:49 |
| iheartubuntu | what would be on the ISO | 21:50 |
| kevin6888 | i've tried, never succeeded | 21:50 |
| kevin6888 | i think it may have something to do with my wireless chipset | 21:50 |
| kevin6888 | the packages i like to have installed on ubuntu | 21:50 |
| kevin6888 | i'd like to install from alternate iso, then install packages i want, then build the iso | 21:51 |
| jtatum | kevin6888: jockey is the restricted hardware tool. it can be run from command line | 21:51 |
| iheartubuntu | i just received a phone call.. Salem OH (1234567890) | 21:51 |
| iheartubuntu | i didnt answer | 21:52 |
| iheartubuntu | that cant be a real phone # :) | 21:52 |
| kevin6888 | jtatum: i'll look into that | 21:52 |
| kevin6888 | odd | 21:52 |
| akk | The arch wiki has a great page on wireless from the commandline: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Wireless_Setup | 21:53 |
| akk | I have a python library/script for wireless config, and I found that page very helpful while writing it. | 21:53 |
| iheartubuntu | i was shocked houston didnt get a retiring space shuttle | 21:53 |
| buddyjr | akk: cool, thanks | 21:55 |
| jtatum | i still like jockey's cli, lets you enable and disable wireless and video drivers | 21:55 |
| kevin6888 | cool, i just avoided a quagmire | 21:56 |
| kevin6888 | oh wait, i'm swampy, i'm supposed to enjoy quagmires | 21:56 |
| kevin6888 | demarest = "from the swamp" | 21:57 |
| erichammond | iheartubuntu: It's not impossible to fake the caller id ;-) | 21:59 |
| buddyjr | kevin6888: no you didn't | 22:01 |
| * buddyjr pats "swampy" on the head | 22:01 | |
| kevin6888 | buddyjr: you're lucky we're buddies | 22:01 |
| u_dp_ | hi | 22:03 |
| kevin6888 | hi u_dp_ | 22:03 |
| kevin6888 | so i just had a realization, it seems the unity launch bar should be at the bottom of the screen when viewing the screen wide | 22:04 |
| u_dp_ | hey guys, do you know much about vitualization? | 22:05 |
| kevin6888 | i've used vbox | 22:07 |
| kevin6888 | that's about it, so no, not really | 22:07 |
| u_dp_ | darn | 22:07 |
| kevin6888 | mental note, don't delete stuff until i have an out of space message :| | 22:07 |
| u_dp_ | does that include irc logs with mental notes? | 22:08 |
| buddyjr | definitely | 22:08 |
| u_dp_ | so um | 22:08 |
| u_dp_ | how do you guys keep irc logs? | 22:08 |
| kevin6888 | buddyjr: :| | 22:08 |
| u_dp_ | i never got in the habit | 22:08 |
| kevin6888 | what client do you use? | 22:09 |
| u_dp_ | is it up to my client mainly? | 22:09 |
| kevin6888 | oh well there's irclogs.ubuntu.com | 22:09 |
| u_dp_ | well at this very moment i'm logged in with webchat.freenode.net web client | 22:09 |
| u_dp_ | but, i mean in the future when i'm on my own server | 22:09 |
| kevin6888 | client | 22:10 |
| akk | xchat has a preference to save logs, or not. | 22:10 |
| u_dp_ | well technically i'd be on my own server, using an irc client | 22:10 |
| u_dp_ | anyone use irssi? | 22:10 |
| u_dp_ | http://www.irssi.org/documentation/manual search:Logging | 22:11 |
| buddyjr | hey u_dp_ what does your nickname mean? | 22:11 |
| u_dp_ | i'm not really sure | 22:12 |
| u_dp_ | my initials are dp | 22:12 |
| u_dp_ | dp was taken | 22:12 |
| u_dp_ | and i'm on the ubuntu site | 22:12 |
| buddyjr | how funny, my bot has a !dp command | 22:12 |
| u_dp_ | and since i'm logged in here twice i have an underscore after my name | 22:12 |
| kevin6888 | it's not your bot buddyjr, it's mine | 22:12 |
| u_dp_ | (i'm also on #ubuntu-locoteams | 22:13 |
| u_dp_ | ) | 22:13 |
| u_dp_ | is this the perl bot you were referring to? | 22:13 |
| kevin6888 | i thought maybe you had found me from #buddhism on undernet or something | 22:13 |
| u_dp_ | no, but i do have that interest | 22:13 |
| kevin6888 | yep | 22:14 |
| u_dp_ | and i have lived on undernet for a brief period | 22:14 |
| kevin6888 | you are interested in the dhammapada? | 22:14 |
| u_dp_ | not currently, mainly because i read most of it | 22:14 |
| u_dp_ | but yes :) | 22:14 |
| kevin6888 | i haven't "lived" on undernet | 22:14 |
| u_dp_ | lol | 22:14 |
| kevin6888 | i just started there like a year ago | 22:14 |
| iheartubuntu | has anyone heard of meat glue before? | 22:14 |
| iheartubuntu | http://d.yimg.com/nl/australia/site/player.swf?vid=24472661&repeat=0&browse | 22:14 |
| kevin6888 | a friend of mind recommended their philosophy channel | 22:14 |
| u_dp_ | it sounds disgusting. | 22:15 |
| u_dp_ | and that link isn't working for me :( | 22:15 |
| u_dp_ | oh there it goes | 22:15 |
| u_dp_ | this doesn't look promising | 22:15 |
| kevin6888 | have you guys heard of mechanically separated meat? | 22:16 |
| u_dp_ | isn't that called modern meat processing? | 22:16 |
| === erichammond1 is now known as erichammond | ||
| buddyjr | i thinks msm would be a subset of mmp | 22:17 |
| kevin6888 | dammit, i should minimize that | 22:17 |
| u_dp_ | i can't finish watching it | 22:17 |
| u_dp_ | :( | 22:17 |
| kevin6888 | i didn't bother to wait for it to work | 22:18 |
| kevin6888 | i'm trying to fix my bot's script, i added variables for his nickname and my nickname | 22:18 |
| u_dp_ | what's it do? | 22:18 |
| kevin6888 | syntax error at /home/metta/src/perl/buddy.pl line 130, near "'!'$verse" | 22:19 |
| kevin6888 | just the usual stuff, factoids on buddhism | 22:19 |
| u_dp_ | what's the !dp command do? | 22:19 |
| kevin6888 | responds to some messages | 22:19 |
| kevin6888 | it pulls a random verse from the dhammapada | 22:19 |
| u_dp_ | does it stand for any set of two words that are vulgar that i am regularly subjected to? | 22:19 |
| kevin6888 | i'd show you, but i don't know if that would annoy the folks in this channel | 22:20 |
| u_dp_ | you can show me via direct chat? | 22:20 |
| kevin6888 | no, it stands for dhammapada | 22:20 |
| u_dp_ | sweet | 22:20 |
| kevin6888 | we would have to be in a channel i think | 22:21 |
| kevin6888 | i haven't tried direct chat | 22:21 |
| u_dp_ | alright | 22:21 |
| u_dp_ | i should get on a real irc client | 22:21 |
| u_dp_ | then i could chat it up | 22:21 |
| kevin6888 | whatever works for you | 22:21 |
| u_dp_ | moment | 22:21 |
| projectdp | hello :) | 22:22 |
| projectdp | where to kevin? | 22:22 |
| kevin6888 | we could go to #buddyjr-test | 22:23 |
| u_dp_ | i'm there | 22:23 |
| iheartubuntu | u-dp_ there is xchat. im using empathy chat client, which handles IRC pretty good IMO | 22:31 |
| iheartubuntu | even pidgin can do IRC | 22:31 |
| u_dp_ | i see | 22:32 |
| u_dp_ | got a few too many chat windows open heh | 22:33 |
| u_dp_ | aak, i am reminded of your comment about bitlbee + xchat & twitter | 22:34 |
| u_dp_ | sounds interesting, any insight into its use? | 22:34 |
| kevin6888 | oh empathy... | 22:34 |
| * kevin6888 weeps for empathy | 22:34 | |
| akk | u_dp_: http://shallowsky.com/blog/tech/bitlbee.html | 22:35 |
| u_dp_ | tx | 22:35 |
| kevin6888 | u_dp_: thanks for the testing, gave me some insight :) | 22:36 |
| u_dp_ | yes but do you have access to insight? :D | 22:36 |
| kevin6888 | hmmm, perhaps a tiny bit | 22:37 |
| projectdp | alright guys i'm switching to this account from now on :) | 22:49 |
| kevin5293 | akk: looks like that did the trick, i'm in fedora14 now :) | 22:58 |
| akk | yay kevin5293 | 23:07 |
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